T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: I think Bast spellup is having a problem with one of my spellups, after every fight i get the social "you belch and pass out" any advice on how to correct this?
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: you seem to be attempting to use pass door as a skill
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: Am I able to disable and enable it mudside
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: I keep getting a text like that in red
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: unless you are attempting to use the password command
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: help pass indicates:  pass door, pass without trace, password
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: according to the helpfile, trace is the correct syntax not pass... I wonder how that error happened
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: pass door is a spell, but if entered as a skill, or instead of "c pass" as "*pass", then the passout social activates
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: as a skill, "pass" seems to default to "password"
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: I see I forgot to clarify, what bsp is trying to do is cast the spellup "pass without a trace" however the correct syntax is "trace" and not "pass" 
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: see what message you get when simply type: pass
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: "belch and pass out"
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when "strictsocial" is used (as per here), "pass" defaults to password.  With "strictsocial" off, "pass" defaults to "passout"
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: Alright then I have enabled that, it should correct the error right?
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: no, you likely get a different error
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps change "pass" to "trace" if that is where the error originates
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: how would I do that?
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: bsp sadd trace?
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if change "pass" to "trace" is required somewhere in the code, unsure where as i do not use mushclient yet
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: turn on strictsocial, see if the error changes to "The password command cannot be abbreviated."
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: it does do that
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: strange that only you are affected and not anybody else - perhaps something was added inadvertently to the end of fight spellup or something
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what what happens if you type: spellup
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: I dont know why bsp tries to use the syntax "pass" instead of "trace" which would fix the entire error
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: look at the bsp code and see where "pass" occurs
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: as in the xml file?
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: maybe - unsure whether the editor you use comes with the find word option
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: turn off strictsocial - the passout social is benign -- then maybe wait until fiendish or somebody familiar with bsp is online
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: will do
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: thank you for the help
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps use the bsp command to remove "pass" and then the bsp command to add "trace" -- look at the bsp helpfile to determine the proper syntax
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: I did try that and it defaults to the syntax pass regardless
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: bsp uses the first word of a command since there is no way to find what the keyword is for a command. Alias pass to trace in mushclient or on the mud
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: What I'm lost on with BSP is the few people that have to manualy enable all the spells for spellup:P
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: I am currently not manually enabled
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what do you mean manually?
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Someone a while ago talked about how they had to add every spell, one by one to the cast list
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "bsp sadd all" will add all spellups
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I had to manually enable each one, otherwise it stayed in disabled state.
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Must I be canceled when I do it?
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: maybe, i think it disables it if you are already affected by it
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Seems so:P
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Will cancel and try it out
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: how do i reset the position of S&D screen?
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: xset reset gui?
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: i think
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Bast, how does one set pass without trace to trace instead of pass, rofl
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: it works! thanks a lot!!!
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: alias pass to trace in either mushclient or the mud
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus tosses Bast up in the air, he loves it!
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Sad when a pcaster runs 3/4 of the mort without spells.....and autospellup seems more mana efficient than manualy casting all spells every 30 mins or so
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Hmmm....how do I clear the bsp list and re-add it again?
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "bsp help" says "bsp sremove all"
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: bah what would you know about it!
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: nothing, nothing at all, nothing to see here
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: They are removing IF statements from next version of c++, "The if statement, while popular in archaic times, has come to light as an unnecessary complication in modern languages, as it leads to ambiguity of which paths a given code segment will take." :(
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: april fools?
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: no. they are replacing "if" to "what if" "then perhaps".
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: to avoid techism in near future
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zonko Tech: where in mushclient keep all my portals? my "mapper portals" empty (
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: have you set any up?
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and have you read mapper help portals
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poker King Intrepid Tech: i am needing some help for a friend.  I haven't played in ages so i am a bit rusty
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poker King Intrepid Tech: he downloaded the client but when he goes to type its not showing anything
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: send him the link from fingering fiendish, for the most up to date version
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: theres a bar at the bottom right above "time to tick" that you can click and drag upward to make the input box bigger
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: how do I change the mob list from Campaign and GQ on Search and Destroy panel?
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: I tried cp check and gq check but it doesn't always work.
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: If I wanted to bring up a list, let's say with the command "spells healing", how might I go about capturing only the last entry from the list?
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: Would this require a multiline trigger?
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: capture each line into the same variable, and find a line after the last item to trigger on, to shut off the capture trigger.
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Easy way: set a capture for the generic line to overwrite your variable.
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Each time the line fires, the variable updates.
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Man of Valour Tech: agreed with Crowley
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: May I have some sort of example? I don't think I'm following.
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: I'm really new to this, so I'm trying to learn by making things that can help me understand a little bit.
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If you're capturing ([\w\s]+)\s+\d+\s+\d%\s+\d+ on each line, it'll fire and update the variable each time. When you reach the "stop trigger capture", it'll only have the most recently fired line.
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Essentially: SetVariable("lastspell", "%1")
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: Okay, cool! I think I can understand that. Thank you very much; I really appreciate the help! :)
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: Thank you kindly, I got it working just fine! :)
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: I used the site regex101.com to help me get exactly what I needed, as well. Gonna keep that bookmarked.
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}It's A Wonder Tech: Where is a good place to start for someone who wants to learn coding?
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: barnes and noble.  grab a nice thick 'learn programming' book. hardcopy is _so_ good to have.
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Or https://www.codecademy.com/ - depends on your goals.
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}It's A Wonder Tech: thanks medaloth
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}It's A Wonder Tech: Mendaloth
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Err apparently codeacademy costs money...try: https://www.khanacademy.org/computing/computer-programming
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: I apologize. It works, but I spoke too soon and realize I still need to make some adjustments for best performance. I have it currently capturing "dirt kicking", but it won't capture a singular word, such as "bash" or "kick". What can I do to remedy this?
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: Level\s\d+\s\:\s(\w+\s\w+)\s+\d+\%\s+\w+
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That won't work on all of them.
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: Yeah; I'm looking over the regex101 site and I can't find anything to help me figure this out. :(
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But again ([\w\s]+) is what you need there.
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: But I know the answer is there, y'know?
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: No, I mean it won't work on all of them because not every spell starts with Level #
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: Oh, a SET. So that's what they are good for!
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Spells of the same level will only have the level heading once.
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: Well, I'm using "spells healing" to show a listing of avaible spells, and it shows what level's I've learned them at. For example, Level 15 : Psychic healing and Level 40 : Cure critical
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: Available *
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if there's more than 1 spell per level though it won't show Level xx :
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yep, but that's because you have one spell per level listing there... For instance, I have 10 spells under level 1 for spells healing, and it only shows Level 1: for the first one.
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: may not happen with "spells healing" though
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It does. :p
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah i didnt consider tier, plus i have none for my remort
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: Yeah I don't have any other, I don't believe I'll be able to account for this until later on as my character progresses, I'm afraid. :(
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i would use 2 triggers - the first would catch the level that you expect, and a higher sequence trigger for a line without a level #
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: set a variable when trigger 1 matches, and you'll always have the level to go with any of the spells
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rise of Numericon nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: That I can try and do! :) I'll also keep this in my notepad for reference as well. Thanks again, Crowley, and thank you, Endymion!
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: okay i pushed something and made my main window small and can't resize it big.  what did i do?
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: calm down. first. where are you?
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what room specifically, or area
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: wow really come on :(
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: can always: resetaard
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: i was hoping to avoid doing that but oh well
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: nods
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: actually.  something is REALLY screwed up
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dont have scry
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: everything is in the top half of my screen and won't go down
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: i... apparently had a second aard window open in mush client
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: kinda rude client if it wont go down
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Did you fix it
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: i did, thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ahoj
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oops
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: get your mushclient questions answered for a bit
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: http://mudbin.tk/jepogohika <-- How should I go about capturing Stat/Resist mods? I'm thinking I'll need two triggers, but that's about it.
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: ^\|\s+Stat Mods\s+\:\s+([\w\s]+)\b\s+\:\s(\W\d+)\s+(\w+)\s+\:\s+(\W\d+)\s+\|$ is what I have for the first trigger, as per the example in mudbin.
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: Is there a way to keep from timing out out. I get "Idle time exceeded - see you when you get back!" instead of eyes glazing over.
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: couple options are: set a timer to send a carriage return every 5 minutes, or trigger on the eyes glaze over message
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dont see why you would get idle timeout before eyes glaze over, thats weird
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: I don't get the eyes glaze over just Idle time exceeded and then the game shuts down
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That was creepy.
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You probably get it, you just don't notice it.
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: I will try to figure out the timer. thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: I will check my settings to see if the eyes thing is shut off
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can't shut it off.
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The message is: Your eyes glaze over.
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: I do not get that message then. Just the Idle time message.
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I doubt it
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: Could be gagged or omitted from output?
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It takes a while for you to get the idle message.
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Your eyes glaze over. would probably be well ahead of the idle time. You can do a search for it.
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lakf Tech: Evening fellas. I'm not getting any info messages (info channel is on).. Any clues of what I did to supress them? (also I checked if I had any gag triggers, none)
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Right-click main window, Find... and put in "Your eyes glaze over."
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Lakf: Type 'info' and make sure there are other things turned on there.
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lakf Tech: I did turned off the friends/clan only for powerups..
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Is info Powerups on in general? :p
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lakf Tech: Yeah.. But its not just powerups.. I'm not getting any info :p
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: thanks found it.
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lakf Tech: Might I gagged it somehow on the client and dont know?
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And "info" itself is on?
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lakf Tech: Yes it is on
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Then I've no idea.
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lakf Tech: Your info channel is ON Powerups        ON       OFF       OFF
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Have you tried turning it off and on again?
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lakf Tech: I'll, brb :p
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lakf Tech: No avail
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Do you have friends/clannies who are leveling?
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Or pupping?
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: pupping ?
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lakf Tech: I disabled the clan/friend only
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lakf Tech: I'll try to login from the telnet terminal on aards website, let us see if the problem is my client (ok I bet it is but not sure where it is)
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Here's a question.
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Are you echoing info in main/chat log?
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lakf Tech: damn thats spam.. its my client :p
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lakf Tech: my screen is red now hahaha
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I bet you aren't echoing them to anything. :p
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lakf Tech: And no, no info anywhere to be seen in my main client
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Right-click your comm log and echo to main.
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lakf Tech: Hm, back to client, no spam and no info echoing to main (nor the little chat box)
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: tech -h crowley for your answer.
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lakf Tech: All chats are now SHOWN in the main window. still nothing
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's Other, not Chats.
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lakf Tech: I am using an old client, that occurred to me now (it asked me to update the client)
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lakf Tech: 5.06pre mush
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lakf Tech: the new (1981) is the same mush version 5.06 and the info works.. Yeah, found the problem, sorry for the wasted time of all involved, and thanks Crowley
T3/r7/2018-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Could someone help me create new functioning buttons for the Search & Destroy GUI? I can't figure out all of the code for it.
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: starling might be able to help
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: get your mushclient questions answered
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaris Tech: how do I reset plugin windows that got moved off-screen?
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's no universal way, but my plugins will respond to resetaard
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: for s&d try xset reset gui
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can also save custom miniwindow layouts and then restore them later if you switch between different screen sizes
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: using the commands listed in 'aard layout help'
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaris Tech: thank you, I'll try that and see if I can find a similar command for Bast's plugins.  I will look at the custom miniwindow layouts as I switch between a 1080p laptop and 1440x3440 pc
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaris Tech: and I'm always losing windows
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: is putting a part of the line into the trigger line in mush client sufficient for it to trigger?
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it depends on how you write your trigger
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: i just want to have a trigger in case of disarming
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: see https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Writing-Triggers#i-tried-making-a-trigger-but-it-isnt-firing-what-did-i-do-wrong
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well you'd need a variable there for it
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luclin Tech: that's an unusually specific thread
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: It's fiendish....He prepares for anything
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: aha, thanks fiendish
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: i wonder if fiendish is one of those intelligent bots that answers automatic
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Now to wait for that Zombies-Are-Attacking-And-I-Forgot-My-Shotgun Thread:P
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: beep boop
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: there is also a page on the wiki with samples of the most common trigger phrases, like disarm etc
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arbruk Tech: is there a way to make the mushclient fullscreen without having to manually resize each window?
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Synthrix Tech: Did you rightclick and click on fullscreen?
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arbruk Tech: yeah but i was hoping i wouldnt have to resize everything. I guess it just doesnt go to a higher resolution
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: larger display settings
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arbruk Tech: where would i go to find that? is that an option?
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: ya.........go to file explorer or run then type display settings ...then youll be a given a choice for how large the text you want it to be
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: wow that's absurd! lol
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: i set mine to 175 percent
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: anyone have any issues with xrt in the S&D extender plugin? Mine has never seemed to work.
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You're probably not using the right version.
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're using S&D from winklewinkle's site, it won't work with any aardMUSH from the last 2 years or so
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the most current version of S&D is being maintained by Starling
T3/r7/2018-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: ahh I think that is it, I haven't updated my aardmush or S&D in a long time
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: i dont quite understand mapper bounceportal and bouncerecall
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virtuo Tech: As I understand, the server understands the connected client is MUSHclient-aard and sends colour codes on GMCP as aardcolors. is there a way to tell server to send GMCP data as aard colors?
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Virtuo: the server sends those colors in gmcp because I ask the server to send them that way, not because of recognition
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm. the internet archive is down?
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: how do you change the color theme on mush?
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Anyone know how to change the theme's color on AardMUSH?
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Where is the wiki on how to change the theme's color on AardMUSH? I could not find it it on Github.
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's in the change log.
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: aard theme change
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Silver/default seem to be the same.
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: how do I retain the last command sent in the command line with Mush Client?
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: hit the up arrow?
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: that does bring the last command back, but is there no way to just keep the command on the command line (preferably highlighted) when enter is pressed?
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Alt+0, Auto-Repeat command checked on right side.
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: perfect. thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: is there mushclient for linux?
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can use WINE to run it.
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: ok
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: In fact, Fiendish, who manages the AardMUSH installer, uses WINE.
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I love how Google Documents allows you to Right-click and select Copy/Cut/Paste, but refuses to do the job for you, and instead demands you use keyboard shortcuts for it.
T3/r7/2018-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Like, piss off, Google. Let me use my mouse!
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: anyone have an updated version of sharptracker?
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: where can i download win 7 updates?
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: cumulative update that is
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use wsus
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: fyi the "default" color theme file isn't supposed to be there, but nothing automatically removes it
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it was accidentally included at some point when it shouldn't have been
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beromen Tech: anybody using mushclient on mac using wineskin?
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: feindish might be
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beromen Tech: ok..trying to install the search and destroy plugin..need help with that..
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: should be the same as on any wine version. navigate to the plugins directory then create a subdir for s&d, drop the xml files in there
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beromen Tech: ok I'll try...also need to learn how to use it..but that's the next step hehe...
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: then use the mush plugin handler and add the xml files, ie plugins
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beromen Tech: ok thanks..I'll give it a try..
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beromen Tech: when I tried to load, it says Line   25: C:\Program Files\MUSHclient\worlds\constants.lua was not found. (Not loaded)
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: is that the directory path you have mushclient installes in?
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and you have the latest mushclient version from the aard webpage or from fiendish finger info?
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beromen Tech: tech yeahh..
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: then you'll have to wait for fiendish, I'm not on mushclient any more :-(
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beromen Tech: ok..what are you using?
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: blowtorch
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: helo
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beromen Tech: hi fiendish..I need help installing search and destroy plugin...and I'm not an expert hehe...
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't help with that plugin
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beromen Tech: ok hehe :(
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: ask starling
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I saw that you were asking about wineskin though. These days on macOS I recommend installing wine with either homebrew or by getting the official install packages from https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/macosx/download.html
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: well tell him the error and pretend it's a different plugin...
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Fiendish, I need help installing this plugin called "find and eliminate"..
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beromen Tech: haha ok..when I tried to load, it says Line   25: C:\Program Files\MUSHclient\worlds\constants.lua was not found. (Not loaded)
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: eliminate being another word for pooping, right?
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Fiendish, I need help installing "inspecting and despoil"
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: its basically a program that just types score 10k times then deletes the character
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hah
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: There you go, you should make that plugin and market it as S&D..
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: I want to be the first to use it!
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: all yours Mr. baggins
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'd just have it pretend to type score 10k times. no reason to send all that to the server
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: true, plus it would disconnect them well before they deleted
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: If I were going to try to replace S&D, I think I'd make a version that only pretends that you're on a campaign, with a pretend list of targets. That way you can have all the fun of not paying attention without messing up competition curves
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beromen Tech: let me guess, that plugin is bad?
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that depends on who you ask
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: some people think it's good
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm just not one of them
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: blehhh me neither
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beromen Tech: not a traditional way to play mud huh?
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's not an issue of tradition
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beromen Tech: then? bad for server? 
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beromen Tech: sorry, I'm just curious hehe..
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: S&
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: bad for competition
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: mis, sorry :)
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaris Tech: I generally find it's the fact the you didnt have to figure out how to do it for yourself and you can just load a pre-made addon and be the same as someone who spent the time.
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it makes everything too easy, you just map once then point and click to t9
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaris Tech: so people feel like you're invalidating their previous effort
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: S&D as I've experienced it makes it possible to complete a campaign without ever even looking at what your campaign mobs are
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Beromen: S&D is a plugin that automates running to your quest or campaign mobs.  It makes things that used to be very difficult very trivial and players don't need to pay much (or any) attention to complete quests or campaigns.  It's a divisive issue as I'm sure you picked up.
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: some people think that's good, some people think that's bad, and some people deny that it's true, but those people are wrong
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: S&D is just a convenient interface to mapper
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaris Tech: well, it's really sooo much different then joining a clan and being given all of these scripts and database files after a few months like it used to be :p
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beromen Tech: ohh..ok..get it..it's just the other day I asked someone..are there hints and tips to complete quest or campaign quickly..because there are lots of finishing gquest quickly.and won it hundreds of time..and that someone just said search and destroy plugins heheh..
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Solaris: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does cp target GUI increses your speed ? sure it does (you need to do cp check anyway to get that list), does xrt increases your speed ? sure it does (and it is pure mapper), same "where <mob>", quick where/ quick scan, list or area rooms and go to those rooms
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have mapper you can do all those things
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaris Tech: having a specific word for it doesnt make my point or yours less valid.  
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Trachx: with the mapper you can't complete a campaign without ever looking at the mob list, and with S&D you can.
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Solaris: I'm merely naming the thing that describes why your comment is irrelevant
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess some players just blindly do xcp X, go Y, blast room
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can just click the buttons and not even bother with X and Y
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right, still I do not really see real option to remove S&D like scripts from game
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Solaris is now ignoring you.
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh well
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sad Boi Raded falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sad Boi Raded pets Solaris.
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe - if q/cp areas were created just for cp/q purpose that could be different
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but not as pup zone/level zone is same as cp/q zone then there is no really good solution
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think main problem with S&D is what cp/quests are - I mean it just sends you to kill a mob in known area
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Trachx: you're at a relatively low level atm. You should try using S&D without actually typing any mob or room names. I've done it, so I know that it works.
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and if you don't have to type them, then you don't have to know them
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: actually I type names of scrambled mobs, like xmsa ahner llurd sol
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe you do once in a while. scrambled mob names are infrequent
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for clear-text ones it is jusuall x/m/cp <index>, qw, qs
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think usually 1-2 per campaign
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beromen Tech: thanks all..I'm not going to install the plugin ..just because I don't know how to install it and couldn't be bothered to find out..but if given a choice, I'm not sure if would say No...hehe...it is tempting..
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't understand not knowing how to install it, though...
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should install S&D
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you should at least know how to install plugins
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: noone gets to know their victims anymore. know their aspirations, their plans, their desires. blame starling!
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is quite convenient mapper interface, and you still do cps traditional way
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure that anything with special instructions comes with those special instructions
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and anything that doesn't come with special instructions just drops in the plugins folder
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: xrt (x-run-to) is quite handy and it is runto equiv, but works from any room and uses mapper portals/cexits
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Think he said earlier something about constants.lua not being there
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh right
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also room search feature: xm <room name>, go <to that room> is pretty nice 
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the pathname he gave didn't make sense though
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beromen Tech: I'm not tech savvy..I saved the xml file into the plugin folder, and then when I try to load it, it come out with some error messages, and I just give up haha..
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in any case, I'm pretty sure that almost everything requiring constants.lua never actually uses anything from inside it
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so probably that line could just be deleted
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe he/she saved webpage with xml extension
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beromen Tech: I got the xml from the WinkleWinkle person..GitHub website..
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh man, that probably won't work anyway
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: That's the old versions:P
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: winklewinkle hasn't played here in ages
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: finger starling
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beromen Tech: haha ok...
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but was constants.lua removed in one of recent versions?
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish shrugs in response to Trachx's question.
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean Mush package
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Trachx: no
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's inside the plugins folder
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beromen Tech: I just googled and use the first xml file I found that says search and destroy haha..
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right I just checked git repo and it is there
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beromen Tech: so I just need the right xml file then...
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I'm pretty sure I've seen that error at least once, but as it was ages ago I do not really remember why
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: what is the save file for the mapper, i don't want to have to copy everthing to keep my work file uptodate
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: work file?
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (Aardwolf.db)
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: lol, diffrent machine at work
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ah
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: some people use Dropbox for this
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: so i guess theres a few mud clients for android what client would you guys recomend to use?
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}C= Amigan Tech: Blowtorch beta
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: more like blowtorch omega, amirite
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}C= Amigan Tech: Straight up
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: bowtorch beta. and could i get help from here to set it up when i start wanting to use it more often?
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}C= Amigan Tech: There's a forum for it but not sure how active it is these days, I'm sure there'll usually be at least one or two people on here at any time to help you, though.
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: I want to use regex to capture something and apply a name to it, as opposed to saving it a variable. How could I do that?
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: (?<name>regexpattern)
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: Thank you kindly, Crowley. That's exactly what I was hoping to find.
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: is there a plugin that can keep track of number of healing potions I have?
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Blumalice has one that's pretty nice.
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sad Boi Raded Tech: Masaki Potmon, I like it. finger blumalice for the link.
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: thanks. I will check it out.
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: anyone to make potmon's font bigger? number/name of pot is kind smallish
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: I think I found it. thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Edit the plugin, if you need to.
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: I will try that. thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any math experts around? Want to talk through a relatively complicated cost function
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: is there an easy way to modify the themes?
T3/r7/2018-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Through the plugin, sure, but it'll reset each time you update. Maybe ask Fiendish to allow custom themes.
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Does anyone know why the date_added column was dropped from the GMCP Mapper DB tables?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: hm. a printer 78 eur. toner for this model 62 eur.
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: that means the actual printer itself costs.. 16 eur
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: so windows defender is the best free? or?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I'm using that one. I wouldn't know about best, though
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I never had problems even without an antivirus
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: avast is also quite popular
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: hello can someone help me with this please
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: on login screen it say this
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: What be thy name, adventurer? Pagesize is not known here, create a new character? [Y/N] : Create new character? [Y/N]:
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: there another port nr i can use to log into testport
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: was that for me dillon?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hmm?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: umm on login i get this can someome help me please
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: What be thy name, adventurer? Pagesize is not known here, create a new character? [Y/N] : Create new character? [Y/N]:
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: do you want to create a new character
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: type n then try again
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: no i mean like why does it do it
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: it never used to happen before
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: try to relog that will probablu help
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: it always happens on launch though
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: what client
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: mush
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirys Tech: It's from a plugin most likely
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: You got a plugin trying to check page size setting at startup
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: sounds like a pluging
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: winkle winkle?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: anyway i can make it not check pagesize before i login and make it do it after
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: then do that
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: well i don't know how to
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: hrm
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Did you get S&D from Starling's finger?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: thats a dirty finger
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: where should i get it from then
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: hmm dirty finger?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: I'd just try disabling plugins until you figure out which one it is, start with those you've added more recently
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: cool thx
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: And what version do you have a AardMUSH -- checkversion
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: --- Connected on Friday, April 06, 2018, 8:09 PM ---
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: GMCP Mapper: Reconnected
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: --> Suspending paging... if enabled
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: then that error happens
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: That's S&D
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: can i get winkle winkle from anywhere else besides starling
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: What is your checkversion?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: what do you mean
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: type: checkversion?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: type: checkversion
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: r1976
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: also its not --- Connected on Friday, April 06, 2018, 8:12 PM ---
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8Uatd_2vBupfnlacldPcjd4Yy1mZnVzNEJHazlRNlpveEdPMkg5SVdBaXZnQm9VZGVVX2M
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: try nokfah's one
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: damn these bone ore temper s rock
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Dunno, I don't use S%D so can't really help
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: lol me neither
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: how do i check version again
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: type checkversion
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: tech -h 20
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: anyway i can make a plugin load after I login 
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Could do --> \\\EnablePlugin("<pluginId>", true) and to disable --> \\\EnablePlugin("<pluginId>", false)
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: Any recommendations on video editors for Win10?  Something equivalent to iMovie where you can merge videos, cut clips, etc.  No after effects or anything.
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: Cytan, movie maker :D
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Redwood Tech: sometimes*
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Wars: you still there?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Redwood Tech: nods, hes trying to kill me
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Where? I'll help.
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sad Boi Raded Tech: samesies
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: tell her you can make custom themes by copying one of the theme files
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the plugin just looks in that folder
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Wars is leveling in her manor again
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but the theme stuff is pretty new, and some of the color fields might need to change in the future
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: thanks fiendish
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: can any key be added as a macro in mushclient? e.g. page down
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Rauru: check out http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=Accelerator
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think accelerators don't get saved anywhere though, so you'll need to put the line to make it in a plugin or something that runs every time mushclient loads
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you can put them in a lua file
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: there is an option to save/load from a .mcm file. When I try to use PageDown as a macro name it tells me it is not a recognized key =/
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah "macro" can't do most key presses
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: accelerators can be done with many more
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: ok
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: even an accelerator might not work though for just pagedown
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: try Alt+PageDown or something
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it does if you get the correct keyname for it
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it all depends on what the OS is willing to pass on to MUSHclient
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i used the same setup for wine and windoze
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Wars: if you write in one of my files they just get reset when you next update, so make your theme have a new file name (still ending in .lua)
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and if you make a cool theme, show it to me. I might include it
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: Perfect! Playing with it now.
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: will do
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: I ran the accelerator method from the prompt and the key works. Are plugins the only way to get lua to run when the world loads?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: The correct way anyway
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not the only way
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but I hate the world script file
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Ctrl+Shift+Alt+p --> uncheck remove, goto each tab click Select none
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: under the big menu thingy, there is a section on scripting that mentions a file it loads on startup, put it in there
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: inb4 wars' pink theme
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for some reason, the world script file location is saved with an absolute path instead of a relative one, so if you ever move your mushclient folder what Shindo just said will break
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: ok
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah, that is the only silly part about it
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zigenare: I love pink themes.
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Fiendish, what about Ctrl+Atl+g --> Lua tab?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: fiendish haha, good luck with your eyesight
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: I basically want to make the pink theme neon green :P
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Daak: That could work too, but technically speaking it's weird  because that code will run for every plugin too
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Oh, ick
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zigenare: checkversion plz?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: r1825
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you update to my latest you can aard theme change and switch to the Pink Neon theme
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: haha hmm, i kinda like white on black
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: one other question. Where do i change the default plugin editor? I want it to use notepad++ instead of mushclient
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Game->Configure->Scripting
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's a checkbox
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Is the text output delay bug fixed in the latest mush update?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: awesome thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BodyPillow Shala Tech: is the new mush still bugged?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: always
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BodyPillow Shala Tech: the delays on block text i guess specificly
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: 7629 on tech board
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh yeah. that should be fixed
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BodyPillow Shala Tech: Gracias.
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish gives you a BIG high five!  Way to go!! 
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that's the second entry in my shortener's database
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right behind livenudegirls.edu
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that goes without saying
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Third entry is obviously Pink Pony.
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at some point I deleted and recreated the shortener...so there are 9 entries dated March 27, 2016...comms, elephant, w10help, maclinux, changes, mapper, aardclientfaq, and eqsearch :-)
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (of course he could just go to the w10help one to fix his problem in the other direction ;-)
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've started making documentation for the color themes. the first page just shows what they look like and how to switch them https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Miniwindow-Color-Themes
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Any chance you'll add the ability to create custom themes?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you already can
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and it's described on that page
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Perfect.
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Someone was asking about it last night.
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: do i need more ram or a new hard drive to make my computer go faster
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it depends 
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: which one
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Both, probably.
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: try feeding the hamsters caffiene.
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you are guaranteed to see significant benefit from replacing your harddrive with a fast SSD
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: my programs load really slow and transfer rate on hardrive is really slow as well
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you may or may not see significant benefit from adding more RAM
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: when i launch a game it take ages
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: How much RAM do you have right now?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: 8 gig
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: 1 ram
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but you will definitely see significant benefit from a fast SSD
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: ssd are expensive
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I get popups sometimes to download more.
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you asked, I answered
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: well should i get more ram as well?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You should be fine with 8 gigs.
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: i just wanna load fast and transfer fast
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: SSD are expensive per GB, but it if you have a spinning HD it is the first best way to speed up everything your computer does
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It's like night and day with a SSD....computer starts up in like 5 seconds.
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: How this turn on?  Just gonna turn you off like Jesus intended you to be.
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i remember paying $4/GB for a 7200 rpm.  SSD are pretty reasonably priced.  unless you have a download problem
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I had to set my BIOS to boot up slower (it has three settings) because my spinning rust drive wasn't initializing fast enough for Windows (which is running on a SSD)
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: any python programmers around? quick OOP question
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: In case anyone shows up later, shoot me a tell... trying to initialize a class that contains a second class. During initialization, I want the inner class to reference a variable in the outer.
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kafur Tech: you either have to pass a reference to the outer class, or pass the variable directly
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: ok wasnt sure if there was a better way, thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: What's the best way to go about making a notification for gquests?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: a trigger is your only option right
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like make it play a sound
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Trigger: ^Global Quest: Global quest \# (\d+) has been declared for levels (\d+) to (\d+)  
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: or are you looking to get a text message or a twitter post?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Nah just a beep or something
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Daak, would I need to create variables for that? Sorry just not familiar with how they work
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you can use PlaySound()
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: No, you don't need to capture the things if you just want sound
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i have a nice wave file that tells me a gquest is in my range. works great
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Start new trigger, put in: ^Global Quest: Global quest \# \d+ has been declared for levels \d+ to \d+$ (put check in Regex), click to browse your sound
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Ok, think I got it set up
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Can do Send to: Script and do somehting like: Note("------ GQ AVAIABLE ------")  or Send To world and just do: gt GQ Available, not required of course
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Will see if I miss the next one or not : P Thanks guys
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: If you have Bast's plugins, can add Event miniwindow and it'll alert you to if one is active or not
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: I don't but I'll check that out
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: what is the filename(s) I need to transfer to move my old mapper database to my new computer?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kristoff Tech: aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Redwood Tech: where can i find the file to edit to change the value of things like tp mobs (kill tab) tp quests (quest tab) and other variables for basts statmon?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you mean so you get more QP for a quest?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kristoff Tech: I have no idea
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Redwood Tech: no, i have recorded all my bonuses (showdesc redwood) since the char started, i want to fix the counts on the miniwindows because they bug the crap out of me as they are off >.<
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i wasnt aware statmn showed that info
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: ^
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Redwood Tech: sorry, miniwin_stats
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh neat, never tried that before
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: maybe it stores it in the state folder
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Redwood Tech: If you do, please also try to find a way to seperate the miniwindows, i would LOVE to be able to have them as standalone windows instead of tabs
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: naa its in the database
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Redwood Tech: in the aard.db?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: problem is, even if you "correct" your QP the # of quests wont be correct etc, so your averages will be fubar
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Redwood Tech: sure it will
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Redwood Tech: it has correct # of quests
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Redwood Tech: pulls it straight from whois
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Redwood Tech: ohhhhh i see
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Redwood Tech: nods, the in db ones vs total
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: my statmn pulls it from the database and i didnt start using it until after i did a few hundred quests
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Redwood Tech: nods, i brainfarted
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: database is stats.db in mushclient/logs folder
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Redwood Tech: well changing the number of triv quests wont affect the qp/quest ratio
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah some stuff you can add a correction row
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe, or it still might screw up your averages, not sure how its all saved
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kristoff Tech: use mushclient ?
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kristoff Tech: in mushclient there's a window that gives you that information
T3/r7/2018-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: woot I think I salvaged my database and my aliases & triggers!
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: Anyone ever have issues when using Durel's inventory plugin?
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: DINV inv.set.createCR: No items in your inventory fit the set.  Is your inventory empty?
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: I've had rebuilt, refreshed, updated... I'm a beginner user, and this is the first time I've run into this error.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: who wanted to know how to make a gquest notify trigger? Aardwolf MUSHclient Package already includes a very fully featured soundpack plugin that is just muted by default
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: How do you unmute it?
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sphelp
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's a lot going on in that plugin, so it will take some learning. contact Pwar for help with it
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Which release was it put in? I am on r1981 and sphelp is not doing anything.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm..I wonder if I didn't force load it. you'll have to load the plugin, but it's there
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: aard_soundpack.xml
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It was not force loaded.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'll talk to some people about whether they think it should be
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Get your mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: how do you get mapper to show the continent map as rooms instead just a picture?
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: neeeevermind
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: mind sharing how =p?
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: right click, unmerge blah blah
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: One of your scripts (in 'Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper') just did something that requires TRIGGERS to be enabled, but they aren't. Please check your configuration settings.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: nnothing is disabled any help here?
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: checking
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: my apologies :P
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: i forgot i disabled triggers :P
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type \\\print(GetOption("enable_triggers"))
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: how do i change/add to the path where lua looks for modules?
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: stop whatever you're doing
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why do you want to
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: well i have to use a relative path i think otherwise
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth demands that everybody stop for Hammertime.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what are you trying to do
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: require a lua file
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sure, but why are you trying to change the search path
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: if my lua file is in my plugins folder will it find it?
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but you could drop it in the lua folder
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or use dofile instead of require
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: i wanted to keep it together with my plugin i guess
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: use dofile then. it's like 90% the same as require
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: Other question, can i write all my lua code for my plugin in a .lua file and then import it? (I want to be able to use an IDE for writing the lua)
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes, but yur IDE won't understand any of the mushclient API functions
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I write all my plugin code in vscode
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: vscode is awesome
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's great for writing in, but it mostly won't help you debug
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: python debugging is decent, haven't tried any of the other language debuggers
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the debugger itself is fine (but very slow), it just cant run a mushclient plugin
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what ide can?
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the dev at work uses pycharm for her python development
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: commercial IDE for python, but I think they have a community edition now
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: still. windows. windows 10. its called windows because what it does. and it does it so damn wrong. its insane. an op system that is called as what it cant do at all
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: switching apps with ctrl+tab, pushing the little win key... all this is unpredictable behaviour with win10. why the f, is called windows?
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: man triggers are slow
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: more efficiemt just to do it myself lol
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What client?  Triggers are super fast in Mushclient.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Depends on what you're triggering.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Now if you are trying to solve pi to the 7 milliointh digit everytime you request a quest, you can't well blame triggers being slow.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: There is such thing as lag from the MUD on some commands.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Hey, I want to know that I have a 37.83842882348282387423772985769382048238472675723818372 quest point average!
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: this should work right: dinv set wear thief 71
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: dinv set wear warrior didnt work me for when I was level 13.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: all it did was wear a low level nightvision potion in addition to my current eq
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: yep, and you don't need the 71 unless you want to wear a set that is not at your current level
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah i was trying to sort out eq before remort
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Did you die and not refresh?
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rise of Numericon shakes his head.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: im on blowtorch, its a simple trigger, i was trying to set it up ao that if i hunted a target,it would move memin that direction amd i could hunt again, but its so slow itd be faster for me to just go that direction lol
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: Don't think so. I'm level 16 and it's been just fine again.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: why would dying require a refresh?
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: the 7 millionth digit of pi is 3 by the way.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: If you drop your bags when you die, you'd need to do a refresh so dinv knows where your bags are when you pick them up
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: It should be really quick though since everything would be in your dinv cache
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ok yeah it only took a minute
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Shouldn't take a minute.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: weird, guess thats what i get for not reading the help file :)
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Mine runs in 10 seconds max.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Endy: can you wear your set now that you did the refresh?
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yep
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Excellent :)
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: thanks, i will keep that in mind.  first time dying to mobs because i tiered, never had that problem at SH :p
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tchalla Tech: also, be mindful if any of your bags are invis (and you don't have detect invis) when you do the refresh
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well except epic where it stays on
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Yeah, if you die on epic with morgue rooms then you wouldn't need the refresh because you wouldn't drop your bags
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: hmm -- back in the day, log tables were printed in the back of the book
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Back in my day, log tables were carved out of... logs.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Old School Durel winces at Mr. Crowley's remark.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: I'm just jealous I didn't think of that one Crowley
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: we called them the "loggists" -- they showed us when they started carving slide rules -- such a leap forward!
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I hope you aren't talking badly about AbeLINCOLN's logs?
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the pink neon theme just got a bit more neon
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: the starter on my car is about the size of a can of soup.  it contains, essentially, some wire and a stick.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: it turns harder than i can with a pair of 6ft levers.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: you are all welcome.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: I dont think my tesla has that
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: you have a tesla?
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: can I hate you now?
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I was thinking the same thing
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: It's abelinc's
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: he lets me drive it
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: pretty sure the starter on a tesla is bigger than a soup can.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: why would a tesla have a starter?
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: and also, its not just the starter.  its also the finisher, and the goer-in-betweener.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: it doesn't have an engine.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: wait, fiendish wrote Abelinc, I hadn't known he runs it on a Tesla that Pleiades drives!
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: I use it to drive abelinc to whole foods and trader joe's
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: and the Sun Microsystems store
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I would take that job.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Super Star Pleiades crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i wouldnt want that job - ive heard about what pleiades does to the tailpipe on that thing.
T3/r7/2018-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: oh no
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: is starlings or nokfahs search and destroy better?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: starling has brought it up to date while I think nokf's version is the original
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I like german mouth food
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: 1.3.5 is out, check link in whois/finger
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: while a misschan I stand by my statement
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I have german mouth food for you.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: his mom' fish pie.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I mean
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: hi
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling slinks away
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Damn autocorrect gets you every time.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: damn that
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: if i change over to nokfah's s&d will I still have all my settings?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: change from ?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: starlights?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: starling i mean
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why? I thought Starling's is still developed
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: it doesnt portal properly
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is mapper issue not S&D
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: well what should i do then
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: i mean it portals fine then it just says could not reach destination or something
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: ahhhhhh xset mark
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need to find destination room id, then check "mapper where"
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: i forgot to set room start point
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you are using non-golden chaos portal and are in GQ - then it will fail
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Course that only considers that all damage is from weapons which isn't likely
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: miss*
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: is there a plugin that allows you extract all your inventory to an excel file?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Man of Valour Tech: there is one which Mendaloth wroted. its in his finger
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: great, thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: is there a plugin that auto get rid of debuffs(like poison, disease..etc) when out of combat?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Probably not.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: does these debuffs give flags? like spellup spells?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: how do I turn my spell flags on?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Take a look over help tags, it'll give you info on how to manipulate them.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Er, not help tags...
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: ah, tags. yes. thanks.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Wait, yes, help tags.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Sorry, woke up not long ago.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: well, I thought they were called flags. hehe. thanks Crowley. :)
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You're welcome.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: ok sooo im looking up batteries for a laptop and they range from 10v to 14v... how voltage specific do i need to be?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: best is to check your current battery
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: match what the laptop came with.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: ok so next question, is it possible to find a laptop that requires a battery thats 12-13 volts?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: uhh
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Only get original batteries. Even if you buy a battery that reports on the label the right voltage, there is a varience between manufacturers. I've killed a laptop by buying one that wasn't the original (though I know people who've not had that bad experience)
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: in principle yes, but thats not usually information you would find on the label.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I agree about only buying original batteries
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: well i wanna use a car battery sooo
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Umm.. why?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: from a reputable source - ive lost count of the number of 'great deals' i found on ebay and such, that barely functioned and died quickly.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: just an idea ive had
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: External packs are easier to carry and don't have corrosive stuff inside ;)
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: but require 120v to recharge.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes, original batteries, but if that can't work for you, then get it to the voltage already in your laptop. Higher voltage can mean more heat and thus cause your laptop to overheat. Lower voltage may not supply enough power to run your laptop.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: does BSP spellup suppress SPELLUP tags?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes, Tordan.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: No laptop needs 120v to recharge. The brick always does the down-conversion to some DC voltage
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: so a laptop that requires more volts is where i should start...
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: you'll probably need an inverter to run your laptop off a car battery
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: is there a way to make it show with BSP?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: to much is lost with an inverter
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Yes, to the invertor, but that'll be "expensive" in efficiency (though for a laptop actually you won't care...)
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can modify the plugin to not gag it, but why?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Are you looking for a laptop to buy, or a way to power an existing laptop?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: I dont' know..I thought I would want to see the debuff(poison, disease) tags
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: looking to hook up a laptop to like 6 car batteries.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: To power it for a year?? ;)
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: ... Why would you want that, Fenix?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: fenix is prepping for the zombie apocalypse. must keep aardwolf going from his treehouse in the woods
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: He wants to blow it up, I think... :D
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Underdog Fenix nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: loliendish
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Tordan: You don't need to see the tags if you want to write a script to remove debuffs.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: well i can charge 6 car batteries in like 15 min and at the amp draw they should last a very long time.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: All you need to know is how is the format the tags are sent.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: hmm. that sounds too complicate already.  :(
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: "Oh no, the power went out!" Fenix: "That's okay! I have 6 car batteries and my laptop!" Everyone else: "Our hero!" Fenix: "Uh, get your own."
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: lol something like that
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: It really depends what the laptop takes in - but you need a DC-DC convertor of the right type to power the power socket on the laptop. The power socket on the laptop doesn't connect straight to the battery, so some variation is fine
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Search ebay for "dc-dc convertor"
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you look inside any backup power supply, it basically has a car battery inside. that's why they're so heavy
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: You'll have to do some connecting yourself
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: ill solder the power lines into where the battery would go.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I'd strongly advise against that
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: i know that fiendy, ive scrapped them before :P
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Use the power input socket on the laptop. It has circuitry to protect against misuse... :)
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: but at such low voltage theres really no surges that would occur.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Fenix is going to be the only one walking around with a car battery on his hip playing Aardwolf. Then he'll turn into Hipster Fenix when everyone else starts doing it.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I would make a plug that goes into the socket rather than solder onto the laptop
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Again, DC-DC convertor is your friend, when used with the power input on the laptop - not replacing the battery.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Fiendish and I are on the same page, it seems...
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Off to kill stuff
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: so after the converter box on the power cord, its reduced to the ~12v ?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's a lot easier to graft the end of a power cable onto whatever lead you have coming off your last battery
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: feni: yeah
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: for car batteries you could just run it to a cigarette lighter and use one of those dc to ac they sell in truck stops
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: No - look on the laptop or the mains brick, it'll say what voltage you need on the power input
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if those "soldered" "grafted" batteries require to be recharged, maybe some unsoldering and ungrafting
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Then get a DC-DC convertor to put between the car battery and the power socket
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just look at the converter box and see what it says it outputs
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I used to use my laptop in my car when I was driving taxi. Loved those converters.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Emm: DC-AC-DC is wasteful
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: tech I used to have a mini-fridge and a microwave in my van :)
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: says dc 18.5v at 3.5a
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-DC-converter-11-15V-18-5V-3-5A-4-8x1-7mm-HP-COMPAQ/292133298973?hash=item440480631d:g:pmUAAOSwrhBZLAm0 ?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: yea but the inverter pulls to much and drains the batteries a lot quicker than just the 12v draw.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: If it's available in the UK... :)
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: thought they were running a multi-battery setup though?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: yea to extend the time it takes for them to drop to 70% capacity. 
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: You can easily take the 12v lighter plug off the end and wire up the batteries *in parallel*
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: i do like that setup pero
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: nah, do it in series.  for the fireworks
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: means i can also charge the batteries while its plugged in.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: [Fenix: "What's that smell? I thought they said series..."]
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: lol, im not gonna screw that up. i have enough low voltage experience.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Oooo - you just jinxed it! I want you to video the switching on ceremony... :)
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: We've all had moments where we should have known better. Me more than many, I feel...
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: so ... if you get lots of smoke on your smoke test, thats a good result, right?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: if you are wiring up a smoker, sure.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: well im gonna look into a dc/dc plug for this experiment. thank you pero
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero curtsies
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Fenix, my only request is that I can charge my phone when the zombies come. :)
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: i can do that now with my bicycle generator :P
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: Get an army of 3 Thousand hamsters on hamster wheels
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: or running water like a stream :)
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: on... yeah.. I guess that could work
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or slaves
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Underdog Fenix Tech: bah, gotta feed slaves :P
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: You mean I wouldn't have to feed you while you power my phone with your bicycle?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: in an apocalyptic scenario, your three best investments are going to be gold, sheep, and women.  two of those can be utilized to charge your phone.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero examines Fenix closely for signs of sanity...
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: only two?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Sorry, I wouldn't have a use for a woman without a lifestyle choice change... :)
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: gold is lazy, doesnt like to turn a generator.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Well, I did make an assumption on the use of the woman, obviously...
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: what, you expect the sheep to care for themselves? sheep are stupid.  also, they dont have thumbs.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: No thumbs but delicious legs...
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: sheep are for eating - remember thumbs?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess I shouldn't advertise here that people can get their mushclient questions answered, huh
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: forsale board, man.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Ugh, we're strictly a CMUD-only MUD. Go away!
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: or sports channel, maybe?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Now back to trying to figure out my MUSHclient plugin.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: anyone familiar with blowtorch?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: one guy is, but he's afk
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: only the kind used for welding unfortunately
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Familiar, yes. Useful for questions about it, no.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: what guy, fiendish? ill send him a tell
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nah. I think if he wanted tells he'd publicize it
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can ask me about mushclient though
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: how is mushclient?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: great, thanks for asking
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: glad to hear that!
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: tfw you set up your first accidental recursive loop
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I do it all the time.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: i dont know how to escape this recursive loop haha
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: trying to set an alias to target and shoot in one command. i couldmt figure out how to do that, the random filter for my client is wonky. so i set the alias output to target (input) then set a trigger to search for 'target' and then shoot. problem is, i have a spellup all alias set up to spellup everyone in the room to practice my spells... but if just one input inst there, it says im not targeting anyone, trigger fires, not targeting anyone, et al
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: suggestions?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you trying to use client aliases, or MUDside aliases?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: clientside, idk how to set up aliases mudside
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, setting up MUDside alias means typing "alias foo c bar"...but they have a limitation in that they can *either* take an argument *or* do more than one thing, so they wouldn't work here
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whatever you're using to do 'target'...choose a non-overlapping name for spellup vs attack
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I recommend just using the MUDside alias in "help volley" to do the actual shooting
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: well the problem isnt the commands. there isnt a spellup all command, so i had to set up an alias clientside that inputs 'spellu a' 'spellu b' etc. to hit everyone thats in the room. but if theres no player whose name starts with b... im not targeting anyone appears... trigger fires, says im not tsrgeting, fires again... etc
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what trigger fires?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: the one i set up to search for 'target', so when i aliased targ to 'target b' the trigger wouod hit, then fire it with 'shoot'
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't have a trigger t osearch for "target"
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you should never, ever, ever, ever, ever have a trigger to shoot
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: only upon MY input will it shoot
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not true
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you just told me it's not true
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since you just said it's firing whn it sees target
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of Abelinc
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: (it's above the law)
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you only envision it firing on your input...but the *only* thing that only fires on your input is an alias, not a trigger...there should never be any trigger involved
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Beelbo grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: well then, any suggestions to do what i want to do w/o recursiveness and/or potential botting?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make your "targ b" alias set the target and then shoot...there's zero reason for a trigger
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: but i couldjt figure out how todo that. my client says it has a random config which is $1 but if i alias arc with targ $1 then shoot, it wont trigger
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the alias should probably be "targ *", with the action of "target $1 ; shoot"
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but as you won't tell us what client it is, nobody can use any real knowledge to answer
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: i think he is using bowtorch
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: its blowtorch yes
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what client you use shouldn't matter
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: abelinc is still right
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: and when i try to use * in input or output of alias the client  rashes
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you shouldn't be using any triggers for a targeting alias
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: its already deleted, fiendish
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: I think he understands that now. HE just isnt sure how to pass the variable alias to the action button (he is using trigger incorrectly when trying to explain what he is trying to do)
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually in blowtorch you don't need the *...just alias "^targ" with "target $1 ; shoot", but check the 
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err, leave off the "^", but check the checkbox about matches start of line
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://bt.happygoatstudios.com/?view=aliases
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: Very helpful.. thanks for that I have been having similar issues getting my alias's to function correctly in blowtorch also!
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: yes i read that but when i use $1 as an argument in my alias, when it outputs, it reads as null
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should be typing "targ guard"...the $1 will be replaced with "guard"
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know why, but for some reason blowtorch users always seem to be using triggers when they should be using aliases
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: aliasing 'targ null
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in the past week or so I've seen a couple people doing something dumb like 'say recast spells' or whatever
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: aliasing 'ar' with 'targ $1, shoot', i then type targ null
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've been telling them things like dude at least use echo instead of say so you don't look like a newb and spam recall
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: sec
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: aliasing 'ar' with 'targ $1, shoot', i then type ar bofrob, but the output reads 'target null, shoot bofrob
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but it's craziness, because it means that they either have a button that emits "say foo" or they have a trigger that emits "say foo" and then another trigger that fires when it sees foo, instead of just doing the thing they want the first time without saying anything
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: clientside alias or mudside alias
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: clientside, blowtorch
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: oh, forgot to check matches start
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: solved, thanks abel
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: so then, what can triggers be used for?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: automated responses to thinks other than you
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: things
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stuff that *comes* from the game, that doesn't require any input from you
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: like playing sound alert when your Q is avail or GQ was announced or double exp started
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alainna Tech: a trigger uses a set string of text, or substring to "trigger" a response that you decide. 
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: so a trigger to eat when im hungry would be ok?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yep
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah, though if you're using mushclient, most common sound alerts should be done with the soundpack plugin that's already part of the client package
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you can also use triggers to do he hunt trick or autohunt
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I do that...my trigger for that actually looks to see if I have mind over body...it uses that if yes, or gets carafe bag ; gulp carafe ; put carafe bag if not
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: oh, i didnt know that about hunt
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but those two really can't be done easily in blowtorch, you need to do a plugin to do that properly
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, you can do an autohunt in blowtorch without too much difficulty
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: Abelinc you have over a million qp, why don't you have wish for nohunger?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: autohunt yes, hunt trick not so easy
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Why purchase something if you have an easy way to remedy it?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: correct, hunt trick can be done in blowtorch 2.x but not the original
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: blockda has a repo of plugins for blowtorch
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the wishes I won't ever get are nohunger, showscry, and privacy...the only other ones I don't have already are auctioneer and the later pockets
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: saves 3 or 4 commands every half hour, in the 3294372384 hours played that adds up?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't save any commands at all, as my trigger handles it
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, as I'm a SH, I don't get hungry ;-)
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I bought nohunger because I wanted to sell my decanter
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: still takes time for those commands to execute
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but I actually still have my decanter
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't take any of my time for those commands to operate
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they would happen all in a single round of combat, without impacting the casting of an attack spell that round...therefore they don't take time
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Stromth Tech: shindo, i fpund blockdas github, but have no idea how to install any of it haha
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have to be using the 2.x beta of blowtorch, to start
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unfortunately, the blowtorch guys won't fix their forum, which makes looking up solutions rather difficult
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't think it's plural
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thought there was dan and one other guy involved...but of course I got the names from the forum :P
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah, there is a lot I'm trying to do but there is no source of help to do esoteric things
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: question about AddAlias function. For script name i tried to put a function contained in a table (e.g. table.myFunc) and it was giving me an error. Is there a correct syntax for that?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is this a mushclient question?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: yes and lua
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: copy/paste what you did
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because if I'm thinking right, you need a string there not a function pointer
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: i tried "table.myFunction" as well
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: can you pastebin your script or whatever?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, I know I'm no Fiendish, but I don't understand what your question is even trying to do...in the table, you have the text of a function definition, or the text of a function name?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: the table has a function stored in one of the elements
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that's just text...it happens to have function syntax, but it's still just a string
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I won't bother asking why you're doing that. but it'll be easier to help if I can see it
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: Idk i was under the impression thats how you work with objects in lua. putting stuff in tables
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it...can be...sometimes
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but if you show me what you have I can probably help fix it
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I just did this and it worked for me, so I'm not sure what the question is asking yet. \\\AddAlias("testalias", "TEST", "", alias_flag.Enabled + alias_flag.Temporary, "testtable.testfunction"); testtable = { ["testfunction"] = function() print("PASS") end }
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: https://pastebin.com/9W1X7tx7
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ah. that's not how you define a function inside a table
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: try myTable.myFunction = function() ... end
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: i thought that was a shortcut. maybe i was reading lua 5.3
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: foo = function() is generally identical to function foo(), but I have no reason to believe that works nested in a table too
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: i think i saw it here https://www.lua.org/pil/16.html
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ohhh
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that is true
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you're right
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so, like...
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: adjusting my test line above still works:  \\\AddAlias("testalias", "TEST", "", alias_flag.Enabled + alias_flag.Temporary, "testtable.testfunction"); testtable = {}; function testtable.testfunction() print("PASS") end
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so whatever you think is going wrong, either that code isn't representative of what you're doing or the problem is somewhere else
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (sorry, when you said function inside a table I wasn't thinking about faux classes)
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (but you're right about doing it that way. in fact I do it that way too)
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: my table maybe have been local, but ill recheck it. thanks tho.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm trying to decide of pwar's soundpack plugin should be forced loaded for everyone
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess maybe I should do it and then see if anyone complains
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Fiendish: I don't have an issue with that, as long as the default remains muted for all.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Nothing like loading up MUSH and having it scream at you right away.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it is muted by default except if you use the no-visuals install, which assumes you want to use it with a screen reader
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which means that you probably want sound notifications
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I installed it yesterday, in fact.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Trying to figure out how to get sound to play when MUSH isn't the active window, though.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that I'm less sure about. it works for some people and not for others. you have to talk to pwar about that.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I know there are a few threads about it on the forum though
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Interesting.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I just don't remember what they say
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's nothing too pressing for me. I'll venture over when I feel like it. Right now, trying to improve upon my Aardwolf Clock plugin.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Only making it worse by making changes, though, it seems.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: make me a new tick timer plugin so I can quiet the people who keep complaining that it's missing now
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: does new miniwindow plugins draw circes for you?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Fiendish: That's essentially what I'm doing, though the clock takes up real estate.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: draw circles? You can use WindowCircleOp for circles
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's a literal clock displaying the time with a border that reflects day or night.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: cool
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Trying to add a "second" hand to it, though.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Been a fun adventure so far. :P
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that reminds me. I need to make a document describing how to themeify a miniwindow
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: abelinc already asked me to do that
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: he said he didnt want to wait for you any longer
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: have you done it?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: I am a procrastinator
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well hurry up and do it. I'm tired of waiting for me to do it
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: I first need saraid to bring me my lunch special
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: back later. wife is chanting at me "hungry hungry hungry I want pizza"
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Does wife have fingers? Obviously has a voice, so she can call up and order. Unless she doesn't have fingers, in which case I look like a complete ass now.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: anyone know a good online resource for learning SQL
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: khanacademy is pretty god start.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: goood.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: ill check it out
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What flavor of SQL?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: not sure heh. I think i am using a program for SQLite right now.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: i think SQlite makes sense for mushclient. i dont need client-server stuff.
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 99% of all real life database needs can be handled by sqlite
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in very rare cases do you need anything from https://www.sqlite.org/omitted.html  though it did happen to me once
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not having alter table is a bit annoying though
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: for those times you gotta get rid of a pesky field huh
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in sqlite you have to do a bit of a song and dance of copying the table to a new one, making the new table, putting the data back in, then deleting the temporary backup
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but at least it's not impossible. I did actually want a full outer join once. had to implement it in python
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Is there any way, besides ID, Lore or Object Read, to obtain the details of an object?
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: invdetails, identify spell and identify command
T3/r7/2018-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Thank you
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Uh... I accidentally tripped Always On Top for MUSHClient. How do I turn it off_
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: view click always on top
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: click view > always on top
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altere Tech: trying to add a second aardwolf bag to dinv, comes back with "2.bag" did not have a unique match for a container: skipping organization query request
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: don't aard items have id numbers?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Is your second bag a container?  It might be a sleeping bag or non-container
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altere Tech: I tried to add it by the ID number and get the same
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altere Tech: ident bag, and ident 2.bag are both my aard bags type container
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: What do you mean when you say you are adding a bag to dinv?  What command are you running and what are you trying to do?  Is this for the organize mode?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altere Tech: dinv organize add 2.bag type armor maxlevel ...........
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altere Tech: problem solved, forgot to refresh
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Whew :)  I was coming up blank :P  Glad it is working now
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: where is fiendish when you need him
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: sleeping most probably
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Doesn't mean you can't ask others for help.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: was just wondering where to get the latest s&d
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: finger starling
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: yeah right
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: He's not kidding.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Also Fiendish would not tell you that information, as he despises that plugin.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: hmm ok, sorry liber
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Starling does have the latest version, though.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, most likely wouldn't tell you that information. :p
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: it seems most all of higher level players use that plugin, nobody can do gqs that fast otherwise
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, QQs are not part of the S&D package. At least, not the public ones.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Er, GQs.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: ok
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: lets put it this way: at sh, snd will make you lose gqs. not because the plugin is bad (it's actually very good), but the behavior it automates wouldn't win you a gquest there
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: by behavior, I mean hunt trick. I have no idea if anyone adapted that plugin to do more, I use the keyboard to ht anyway even while cps :)
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: Liber do you also stop doing cps at 100+?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: no, I cp at all level ranges
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: ouch ok
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: since t0r1, so it's doable ;)
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: I have Xset Autocon on but S&D doesn't auto-con room when arrived at desitnation, how do I make it work?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Father Uchiwa Tech: hi, i had a question
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, thanks for letting us know!
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Father Uchiwa Tech: im studying programming and i was wondering what platform aard is using or what was it created with?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I once had a question, too. I asked it, and it was answered!
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tchalla Tech: meet Crowley, our incredibly helpful asshat
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Father Uchiwa chuckles at Mr. Crowley's joke.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Now now, I'm incredibly helpful! And an asshat sometimes.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Father Uchiwa Tech: its all cool lol, im not a sourpuss
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, currently, Aardwolf uses Lua code.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Father Uchiwa Tech: Lua?  im not fermiliar with. 
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: As for what it was created with, well, that's a different thing altogether. :\
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Take a look at Lua. Lightweight, MUSHclient plugins are coded with it, etc.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Father Uchiwa Tech: aah, i see, interesting haha
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Father Uchiwa Tech: aah thanks lol, im ganna have a look now
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: can i get nvda to read messages and tell that come in please
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i have the latest mush update for blind players but i have no sound can anyone help me please
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: where did you get it from?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: the web site from a link
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Fiendish's site right?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Padre Tech: If you use sounds cat you hear farts? :)
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: yes that is right
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Padre Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I am not sure but I think that is not special VI version - I mean you still need load extra plugins for screenreader
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: and how do i do that
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: http://www.materiamagica.com/play/pc/mushclient/mushclient-bundle-sight-impaired.html
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i have the mush client for materiamagica
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: actually I am wrong
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems that it is complete package, not just screen reader plugin
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: very good with nvda
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: so if i uninstall and try again it sould install all i need from the aardwolf site
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I need to download that VI version from Fiendish and check its contents
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need SAPI plugin for Mushclient: https://allinaccess.com/mc/
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I am wrong again
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I downloaded Fiendish VI version: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/releases/download/r1989/Aardwolf_MUSHclient_r1989_no_visuals_no_install.zip , and just after unpacking it reads
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i have no clue what to do about the nvda client i downloaded i have very little tech savvy
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you tried to redownload Fiendish VI version?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems it works without any extra add-ons
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: go to https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/unzip_upgrading.html 
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then get non-visual base for screen readers
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it should be downloaded as single *.zip package, just unzip it to some dir and start mushclient.exe in that dir
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: as far as i can see in the plugins folder i have all i need but i still have no sounds but should i have a sound when chatting to another player and a tell comes in
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: When a blind person says, "As far as I can see" ... 
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Being deaf, I can relate with "What I've heard..."
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: most blind people say that 
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Classic Vost claps half-heartedly for Mr. Crowley, clearly unimpressed.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: it makes life less complicated
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It does.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i think i will remove all the aardwolf and redownload it from the site using the nv package
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: so be back soon
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: this is strange i have reinstalled the aardwolf nv client but still have no sounds only nvda talking
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: anyone there that knows why i have no sound after reinstalling the aardwolf nv client
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hi
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Dimples, are you still around?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: hi
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Hey Fiendish. How was work?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: first day was just informational
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this is how you register for your email account, this is where you can choose to opt out of insurance if you want, etc
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Those are always the fun days.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: did you get an internship at abelinc's house
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes, in the potato eating division
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: oh wow
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I am very good at eating potatos
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: he typically doesnt put firstyears there
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: potatoes are so good, too.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: crowley is this note on personal the one with the failed colorbleed?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Fiendish: That's what lead the my bugs note, yes.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: k
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Have to toggle noprefix to see the colors.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yup. just did
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: looking at it now. someome find out if Dimples is alive
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley pokes Dimples in the ribs.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, Dimples is alive, just not responding. Saw him buying some stuff.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i am here
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Fiendish will be right with you.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Hi Dimples. I saw you were having trouble with mushclient speech
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: sorry i did not know what that sound was
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: yes i have no sounds apart from speach
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh, so you do have speech but not sound effects?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: yes that is right and i uninstalled and reinstalled the nv client
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: let's do a test...
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: ok
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what does it print when you type "spset tech"
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: crowley: omg lol. nice catch.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: there is a lot but from what i heard they say 100
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Dimples: ok if there's a lot then maybe you typed just spset and not spset tech, but that's ok.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Dimples: what does it say when you type "spmute"?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Crowley: question. if you pass in 5, should it look for "5" first? or skip right over to looking at tab 5?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess if it skips right to tab 5, then it would be just confirming that tab 5 exists at that point
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That's a good question, though the tabs start out numbered anyway until you change the name, so I'd say have it look for the tab number first.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah but if you ask to number the tab and then just hit enter, I think it names the tab the number as a string
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I forget if that's true or not
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Diples?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Dimples? How are you doing?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i have sounds now when a tell comes in but should there be music in the town area
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ahh, no we don't have music yet
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Dimples: if you have suggestions for music to play in different areas then I'm all ears (ha ha ha). Just send me suggestions by either personal note or email
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: ok so all i did was disablel the sound pack and then enable it again
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Dimples: interesting. I will make sure that Pwar hears that. He's the one who wrote the soundpack plugin for me.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Well, not for me. Really for you.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: anything to help
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Fiendish: Why not have it the type? if type(tonumber(t)) == "number" then return number else return name end?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i am having dinner now so will be back after
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Crowley: the question is kinda just whether an "are there at least 5 tabs?" function is worthwhile or not
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Dimples: lol. sorry to interrupt your dinner.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Ah, hmm.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Because if not, then maybe I should just be splitting things out. mixing numbers and strings is kinda bad mayb
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Crowley: I tell you what though...I already have setTab(i) and setTabByName(name) and those do mandate type
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I got lazy and just wanted to use find to figure it out.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe I should just remove findTab
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Doesn't hurt anything if you remove it.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Just means an extra line or two of code to do what I want.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Just command-line switching. I had it with the first integration of tabs. Now I just type 'tab <name/num>' to switch to that tab easily.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ah. yeah. I guess either way it's probably about the same in number. either check type first and call a different function or call find first and then call set
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I hate when systems have multiple ways to do the same thing
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Reduces efficiency.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I have to run to the store. I'll fix this when I get back
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: SQL question. I want to take some rows from table1 and put it into empty table2. But table1 has duplicate rows that will fail the unique constraint in table2. What statement can I use to do this?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: wont the failed constraint rows just not insert?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: it fails the entire statement and inserts nothing
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: can do INSERT OR REPLACE INTO table (cols) VALUES (vals)
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: Ill try replace and see if it works
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: nice that worked i think :D
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What was the command to get rid of {scan} / {/scan} messages when scanning again?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: tags scan off
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: hmm, since I updated my Mushclient my spellup plugin from Bast doesn't seem to be working, any idea why?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: I would blame Fiendish if I were you
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: no way, I hear that guy is crazy
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: you could go straight to his boss
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Super Star Pleiades points at you.  How rude! 
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know how I might have broken bast's spellup plugin
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: low-tech persuader?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: crowley try r1990
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Will do.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Hmm, this is a weird error message.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: (Not related to findTab, didn't check that yet, just reinstalled it)
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ruhroh
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Posting the note to you.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Posted.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh. whaaaaaaat
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's not my bug. huh.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yeah, wasn't sure if it was relatable to you or not.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it looks like a network error
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but for various reasons telnet shouldn't _really_ be susceptible
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I assume it's not reproducible
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I can disconnect and try reconnecting, and also try closing out MUSH, etc, to see if it fires again.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can try, but a dollar says it doesn't happen again
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You may have been right about the error not reproducing, but I couldn't tell you because MUSH kept crashing.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I didn't change _that_ much. At least god I don't think so
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You may get a kick out of the culprit, though I don't know why.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Nothing related to you, I don't believe.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, directly, anyway.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Apparently, Starling's version of S&D is what caused the breakage.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh good
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Still, not sure what would have changed to cause it to crash when it hasn't crashed before.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: grumble
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: legend of zorba.  that is all.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Fiendish finds a way to break S&D again! :p
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean...mushclient does still have bugs floating around in it. every once in a while I run into something and get Nick to fix it
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: like I'm really surprised I only noticed this one very recently https://mushclient.com/forum/?id=14217
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Wow, that's... odd.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So installing S&D after MUSH is running doesn't crash it. I wonder if it's because MUSH is trying to send too much information at once when I open MUSH. I do have a couple plugins that send a gamut of commands at start.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I bet fiendish coded something in to mess s&d up
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no, I didn't
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: right
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: don't think I don't think about it though
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I do think about it. but I didn't.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Ha, the pink neon color theme is.. quite interesting indeed.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: imagine it in plaid, with lime-green accents
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I love the new theme changer, though.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there are limits to what themes can do, because it turns out that adding customization to everything just adds complexity without significant payoff
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So the new findTab only returns 0 when introducting a number, but appropriately displays the tab number if called by name.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: when I call sqlite3.open("", sqlite3.OPEN_READWRITE) no error is returned, even though i'm not even giving it the name of a database to open?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: and db:errmsg() says "not an error"
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: does anything else work?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: crowley: is that good or bad
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: I havent tried to do anything with it, but i'm just wondering why there is no error. I'm guessing it is creating a database and throwing away the second parameter.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well just means can't locate by tab number.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but you _know_ the number
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but ok
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess I can make it work that way
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You got me there, damn it. :p
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: rauru: maybe it's opening an in-memory db then? sqlite has a mode for that
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: im reading this http://lua.sqlite.org/index.cgi/doc/tip/doc/lsqlite3.wiki#sqlite3_open
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: which says i can use an explicit flag to avoid creating an inmemory one
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: this is how I open my sqlite files: if (sqlite3_open(this.getAbsolutePath(), out _conn) != SQLITE_OK)
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: oh it is making them, i can see them in the mushclient folder.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol what's it called
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: maybe the mushclient version of LuaSQLite 3 is outdated
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or more flexible
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: sqlite will not give you an error if the file fails to open (by default) it will just create a file.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: how can i tell that my intended database is being opened then?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: if (sqlite3_open(this.getAbsolutePath(), out _conn) != SQLITE_OK)
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: specifying a filename would probably be a good start
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can't
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: how do you know that someone didn't replace your db file with a different one?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: only by inspection
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: sure you can specify a file, you have to give it a full path, though
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: personally, i prefer to just drive on thru that kind of nonsense - never know what youll end up with.  maybe you can even catch a poke-glitch...
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: oh, that. well, keep your hd secure :)
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: fiendish do you know where the sqlite3.dll is stored in the mushclient folder? or what it might be named as?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: download your own
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: This is new, can't scroll up in comm log now.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: do you have a logitech mouse?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i get this issue sometimes where it just wont scroll, switching to another window and then back seems to fix it
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: well i figure its my mouse driver, or the mouse software. and since i have a logitech mouse... and the driver/software are both made by logitech...
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but you didnt ask about the price of tea in china
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: No, I can't even scroll up by clicking on the arrow buttons on the scroll bar.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: cheap knockoff tea - bah.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: do you have anything up there to see? maybe the window is just empty?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: how doyou knock off tea?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: exactly.
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: pour it in the bay
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: rauruu it's compiled in
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: see the github for mushclient
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: off to bed
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh yeah its a bummer that sqlite is compiled into mush, though i dont think i've come across any limitations that have mattered so far
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: Am i missing something with this soundpack? Are there not defaults set?
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: ok so i have tried useing blowtorch but for some reason after a few days it forget everything i put into it for aardwolf including the port and ip address  not to mention triggers and alias and button sets
T3/r7/2018-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lorwrath (
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: morning
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Father Uchiwa yawns.
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: There are times when a mapper leadsto <roomid> would come in handy, showing you what room(s) lead to your parameter.
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: My database has 8 tables that my queries are joining. The tables have between 300-10k rows. Would "denormalizing" and putting all my data into one table speed up my reads. Or is the number of rows too small to make a difference?
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: At that level you likely won't notice a difference unless you've over normalized them
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends more on the kind of data and kinds of queries you're doing...
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: queries are entirely string match
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Wildcarded strings or literals?
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: substring?
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: full match, all the data is either text or integer
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what everything effectively comes down to in database design is "indexability"
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it have to read everything on every row to give you the result, or can it segment the tables for a typical query so that it only has to read a third of the table to get the match
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you're doing full matches anyways, and it's indexable, you might notice a speed bump by just doing a single table (unless you end up with tons of nullable fields as a result), but overall I don't know that the gain would be super noticeable
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: it would be matching on three columns, which is about half the row. and there would be no nulls
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Personally I'd just use a single table then
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: im thinking my queries still will take < 0ms. I guess ill test both ways.
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: sub millisecond?
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the question mostly comes down to whether it has to make decisions on the multiple tables or not...typically, normalized (many tables) is "the right answer", and is the reason for relational databases
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Nanoseconds!
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: well im using DB Browser for SQlite and to return 5 rows from 20k rows it said 0ms
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: but to return all rows it said 37ms
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: But if he's matching on half the data anyways, the lack of joining would potentially increase speed.
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, if it always knows that "3" means "Utah", it only has to look that up once, rather than reading "Utah"...so you'd be trading one overhead for another
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: select (fields) from foo where x and y and z is faster than select (fields) from x as foo join y as bar on foo.foo = bar.bar join z as baz on baz.baz = bar.bar
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Fair point
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, and I have no idea how sqlite does anything related to optimization...I was just thinking of mysql and sql server
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If it comes to having 1 table with 100k rows vs 3 tables (still with 100k rows each), i'll take a single table :P
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the main reason for denormalization...you'd have the tweener tables in memory pretty much the whole time, and can look up the "main" table in your query without re-reading everything
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, you should never have 3 tables each with 100k with normalization...that'd be an "unnormalizable" dataset...the other tables should be a couple dozen or so entries
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Right, but the way I'm envisioning his table (and it could be wrong), he has 3 rows he's matching, so he'd have a table of those 3, a lookup table to the rest of the data, essentially doubling his size
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: less columns, equal rows
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Assuming a 1 to 1
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, 1-to-1 is a spreadsheet rather than a relational database
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Not disagreeing :P
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: But matching of 3 of 6, is basically a spreadsheet anyways :P
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you put that into a stored proc or a view, then it wouldn't even really matter normalized or not.
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Especially if you can just filter your view based on search params
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how many fields you're pulling doesn't really matter wrt whether to normalize or not...the only real question is whether you're putting the same data in multiple places (more often than not)
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I guess it'd be more helpful if we had an example row and an example query of how your using it. Without it it's more opinion driven
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: its for aard. My query matches for a mob name and for either a room name or area name. Right now that data is in three different tables.
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Oh...then you're literally iterating every row 3 times
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That's terribly inefficient
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: select roomname from mobdb where roomname == roomNameVar or mobname == mobNameVar or areaname = areaNameVar is way more effecient than checking 3 sepearate tables with essentially the same query
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: my query looks like SELECT column FROM t1 INNER JOIN t2 ON ... INNER JOIN t3 ON ... WHERE ...
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: more columns selected than that but yeah
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So, by having them one table for this example, how optimization works is it'll select ALL rows, iterate over once to find ones that match the first match, take the rest of the data that doesn't match and check against you or, and repeat for the third one
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Whereas in 3 tables, you're saying "Give me all rows that match this", "now match that with all rows from another table that match this", "now match that result finally with a final table"
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: so youre saying i should denormalize
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: In this case, I would. But aain it's small enough that it's more preference
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's basically the question of software development. Do you use more ram, or do you take more cycles.
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: I was also wondering about how an index works, if I make one that includes all the columns i want to select, does that make a read faster.
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yes, but higher initialization time
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So it's all about whether you want to front-load the time cost, or split it across usage time
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Also when you update a row it'll be much faster as the row will already be indexed.
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And you're only updating one row, versus (potentially) 3.
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You could also consider using a composite key of those three fields and use substring matches. The composite key would be indexed and more easily locateable
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger . o O ( Don't do composite keys like for normalized data. Ever) )
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egmund Tech: hello!  sorry, how on earth do i make a...macro or alias?  on mushclient?  i'm trying to figure out how to cast my furst spell as a mage
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Does it need to be an alias on mush?
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: You can also create a mudside alias
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egmund Tech: i guess that's ok, i'm totally new at this and terribly tech ignorant
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: No worries
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: For mudside alias, help alias
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egmund Tech: i'm coming from gemstone, where you target a mob and then use a macro or script to cast a spell
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egmund Tech: in gs, you just target and then attack, it keeps the same mob targeted
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Did you go through the academy?
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: your spells would always target the mob you are in a fight with
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egmund Tech: not yet.  might be a good idea, huh?  it started in basic by having me look up some kill file, and i went from there
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: once you're in combat, your attack skills and spells always automatically target the mob you're currently aimed at
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Yeah, it will teach you the core knowledge about this mud
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: hello, Fiendish
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egmund Tech: ok.  man, this all seems so complex!
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: everything new is new
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: baby steps - crawl thru the academy
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egmund Tech: ok, thanks guys!
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: You're welcome. Enjoy your stay!
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egmund Tech: i'll try not to get overwhelmed and discouraged!
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when you're done with the academy, you can look at https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ#how-do-i-write-triggers-aliases-or-macros
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egmund Tech: great, thanks again
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Helpers are eager to help should you need a gentle push. Talk to them on the newbie channel (:
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: and downloading the client comes with 24/7 support from fiendish
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not 24/7
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: email, chat, phone and pager
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egmund Tech: probably a question for newbie, but is an eldar mage ok for a new player?  or maybe i should go with something simpler/beefier?
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: We can also provide his house address if you need it
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I do sleep. and apparently now I even go to work
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes - that's a good combo!
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i'm waiting on a snail mail response, i mailed it on friday
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: oh yeah, you now officially work for Abelinc, Inc
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But will get better responses with Q/A or newbie.  If that doesn't work, send pleiades a tell!
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i assume the post man knows where to send my letter.  To: Fiendish
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the postman always rings my bell twice
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egmund Tech: how do you send a tell?
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: tell person message
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: tell pleiades Hey!
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: tell pleiades <degrading message>
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: tell pleiades i love you
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's pretty degrading
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But he just quit!  Seriosly though Q/A and nb are best bets....
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: We like to keep our channels seperated here!
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiaden Tech: what is the best way to organize mushclient windows?
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: how do i call a global function that is in one my puglins
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: CallPlugin(ID, function, arg1, arg2, ...)
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ID and function name should be strings
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: arguments probably need to be simple types, no tables
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you want to pass a table, serialize it first and pass that string through
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: affirmative, no tables sent or returned
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}#FAPFAKER Pleiades Tech: and what if you want to pass the dutchie?
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ask for permission first
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: otherwise it's rude
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: and you have to do it on the left hand side
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc runs past Kobus and says "On your left"
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish screams "Beep! Beep!" like Road Runner and then turns and sprints off...
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: freaking sweet, I totally missed the announcement that LetsEncrypt supports wildcards now!
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Wut is LetsEncrypt?
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: free TLS certificates for websites
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: I write my own certs :>
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: let me rephrase
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: free TLS certificates from a valid authority that won't throw giant red warnings on your visitors' browsers
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: heh
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hellion Anaristos looks at Long Time Fiendish and goes "Heh."
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: that reminds me mine is going to expire soon
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wish they did app signing too :(
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: I can send you a few :>
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: LetsEncrypt has a mechanism to auto-renew ;-)
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you could add some switches to your chrome link to prevent that. go wild
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: they do??
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im not sure if i used letsencrypt or an offshoot of it
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i really should have written that down...
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I thought it was Digicert or bust.
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the auto-renew mechanism is from the EFF
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: certbot
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, letsencrypt is from the eff too ;-)
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: we don't allow bots here, sorry.
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think letsencrypt is more than just the eff
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's a bunch of other money behind it
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is, but they're founding members and maintainers
T3/r7/2018-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ah, yea i didnt use their certbot
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you should. certbot works pretty well if you have a decently up to date system
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: that worries me, when all the big shots support something they are getting something back for it.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not the big shots in that field...
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: I am talking about the sponsors
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so am I
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and they're supporting it to screw with the crooked cert people
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i dont remember exactly why i didnt, i think i was just being super lazy and the site i went to was like "just upload this file to your webserver" and i was like "ok"
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: see? that's the problem :) they are acting like they are the good guys :>
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: for proof of ownership that is
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the letsencrypt sponsors are groups like Mozilla, who work hard to preserve freedom, and Cisco, who definitely want more people slamming network hardware with encrypted connections
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and akamai who I'm sure pay the extortionists through the nose (or used to before letsencrypt)
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but having more free TLS in the world, regardless of who backs it, is just a good thing
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i agree
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: it used to be stupid difficult to get certs unless you wanted to pay millions of dollars to someone
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: very nice to see free certs available for the common man
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at work we currently pay for a wildcard cert and for a standard cert...I may be able to get rid of the paid wildcard cert by using letsencrypt now
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: anyway certbot won't run on windows, though I suppose I could install it in my ubuntu vm
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: linux subsystem for windows!
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: I saw that, haven't really looked at it.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, certbot should run on windows, iirc it's a perl script
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea it should run no problem in the subsys
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im looking now and this one is python
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but still
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's python
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, that could be it...one of those parsertongue languages :P
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: they asked me for help with a bug someone reported
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and I don't know the first thing about perl
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: what linux should I choose?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but like imo the bug was that the person was running a wicked old system with some broken library
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what are your choices?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: might as well dive right in with some Gentoo =P
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I've run it on some pretty old systems...have it running on ubuntu 10
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: ubunt opensuse sles kali and debian
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is 8 years old
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: of those, use ubuntu I guess
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: either ubuntu or debian
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I love the debian project members, but debian on my laptop was never happy
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ive not used the other
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: others*
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: debian was my goto back in the day, but for better user-friendliness id say ubuntu, not sure its gonna matter with your subsystem though
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: I have some knowledge of ubuntu so that's a good choice.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: frankly I've avoided unix like the plague :)
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: that makes the entire linux community very sad
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: I bet :)
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: haha, its crazy how much progress has been made in linux over the past 10 years or so and i havent kept up with any of it
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i keep seeing all these mentions of something called "docker" and i still have no idea what that is :p
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: container stuff
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just about everyone can safely ignore docker
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: balls, I'm bad at work schedules. bedtime.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: haha
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's not my fault. I don't have much practice
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im going to attempt now to make this certbot thing work...
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're back to work now?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i expect abelinc to be available for questions :p
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 2nd day at CHOP was ...yesterday
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh nice
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they'll keep you busy
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://d3b.center/kidsfirst/
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm still going through institutional training
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hours and hours of web forms with softball quiz questions about what to do if I see someone stealing a child or if I, sitting in a computational research building, nowhere near any of the patients, accidentally stick myself while trying to draw blood from an angry toddler
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ROFL!
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: wget https://dl.eff.org/certbot-auto
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ERROR: The certificate of `dl.eff.org' is not trusted.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's an issue with your wget not having the root trusts in it...add --no-check-certificate
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or you can install the mozilla root trusts so it'll know the usual things to trust
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea im not even sure about updating the trusts, ill just ignore it i suppose
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, for as often as wget is used to "surf", ignoring the cert is pretty normal
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i basically only use it for snagging a random file here or there
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: mostly they arent ssl sites though
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: so my biggest concern is i only use ssl certs on one of my virtual sites in apache, do you think i should just use the certonly option on certbot and maybe use a bash script to update the certificate files/restart apache?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: and also doesnt it need the domain/wildcard?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you use certbot, it'll ask which sites you want to use it for
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: sweet, i got errors and such :(
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: do you know what augeas is?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fraid not
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: The error was: NotSupportedError('Apache plugin support requires libaugeas0 and augeas-lenses version 1.2.0 or higher, please make sure you have you have those installed.',)
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: and i just reinstalled both with apt
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm maybe i can just run it without config for apache
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: I think Abelinc will decide how you run it
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: omg...
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im remembering now why i didnt use certbot :p
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are various ways to run it...from full-on auto down to even running it on a computer other than the webserver
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm running a pretty ancient version of it (0.14.1, whereas current is 0.23.0)
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ooo ooo ooo i can just use symlinks!!
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I run the renewals out of a cronjob twice a day, which handles rotating out the certs for a few virtual sites...
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: so does your webserver need to be restarted whenever your certs update?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, the auto-process (local/share/letsencrypt/bin/certbot renew) I run uses symlinks...apache is pointed to /etc/letsencrypt/live/abelinc.me/cert.pem, for example, but that is a symlink: cert.pem -> ../../archive/abelinc.me/cert10.pem
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where the 10 is kind of like a reverse logrot setup...it increments the number and changes the symlink
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: is a webserver restart required?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my cronjob stops apache, does the renew, and starts apache back up again...I don't remember if that was necessary because of how I have certbot doing the verification or if it was just to get it to notice the new cert...it's mostly been just humming along for a hella long time (abelinc.me has been using certbot totally automated since 2016)
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: an iceage would not require a restart
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, and ice age IS a restart :P
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an*
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Super Star Pleiades gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: its a passover to the socket controller, and a restart of the mud software :p
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Kobus.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: or maybe the socket controller is alsways separate, in any case... the software DOES restart
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: Im not sure about that
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok im gonna try without restart and i guess if i get an error or someone saying "hey this doesnt work" ill know :p
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can always just go to the https version of the site and look at the cert that the browser says it's using
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click on the lock and it'll say if it's a letsencrypt, and can see the start/end dates
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so abelinc.me says valid 4/3/2018 to 7/2/2018, so I know my cronjob is still working ;-)
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh ok thats a good idea ill check the current end date
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh nice it ends on the 16th, good time to get this sorted then
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: much better time than the 17th ;-)
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: why whats wrong with the 17th....?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: now youre scaring me :p
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just meant the day after it expires, cuz then people are already bitching
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ah yea
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: and itd probably go days before someone noticed or said anything
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: then id be scrambling
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: so im using fullchain, cert and privkey .pem correct?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: idk wth chain.pem is useful for :(
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SSLCertificateFile /etc/letsencrypt/live/abelinc.me/cert.pem, SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/letsencrypt/live/abelinc.me/privkey.pem, SSLCertificateChainFile /etc/letsencrypt/live/abelinc.me/chain.pem is what is in my /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf file
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: what webserver software?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: looks like apache
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, I use apache on everything
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: `fullchain.pem`: the certificate file used in most server software.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: `chain.pem`    : used for OCSP stapling in Nginx >=1.3.7.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i gotta say i think im gonna go with fullchain, cant hurt right?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change the link in the config file, restart the service, see what the browser returns...worst case, roll back the link in the config file :-)
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: much trueness
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: so when i do a renew im still going to end up with my latest certs in /etc/letsencrypt/live/, right?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I just logged into one of my other servers...no clue where I have certbot configured cuz my crontab's empty, but it renewed a couple weeks ago so it's gotta be somewher :P
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: prob some other cron-type thing
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, you'd put live into the config file, and live will be a pointer to the latest in archive
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok cool
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thats how im setting it up :p
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: looks like it needs a server restart :(
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: might be able to just do a -HUP
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: woot, symlinks functioning totally blanked on /etc/......init.d
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: and i forgot how to cron
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: crontab -e
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: lol yea, i meant the file format :p
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, and I found the cron file for that other system...I guess they moved stuff and just leave the /var/spool/cron/tabs for legacy compatibility.../etc/cron.d/certbot is where it's controlled for this one (certbot was an apt-get on this Ubuntu 16.04LTS system, rather than a manual wget)
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I always leave the top line as #minute hour    mday    month   wday    command
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: good idea
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i almost never use cron though, what i needed was in man 5 crontab
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh theyve kindly added a nice header in the cron file itself :p
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, some systems do that, which is where I got the idea :-)
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok ive got it rocking on a crontab at hours 5,17 :p with a sleep `$RANDOM % 60`
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: or similar
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: we'll see how this all ends up
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thanks to abelinc for the tech q/a
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: might later add an hash check of the cert or something to restart the webserver only when necessary
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: no need to thank the Creator
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can check the timestamp of the symlink
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: much better option ty
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: just gotta figure out how...
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or something like have a check for the existence of a higher-numbered file
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: stat -c %y will get the last modifcation date
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: better yet, stat -c %Y
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, can run that in a crontab later, check if mod date is within a day or two of "now"
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: well it seems like if the certs are up-to-date it shouldnt change any of the cert files... so if thats the case then my modifcation time checker can just run in the same cron script
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: idk, ive just added logging capabilities to my cron script so i can check in on it :/
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: wow totally blanking, what is the windows web browser even called these days?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: internet explorer?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: no its edge
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: oh, that one suckes even more than internet explorer
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh i agree
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Itty Kitty Purr Tech: in the aard mushclient, is there a command to restore the stat window? i switched to my laptop and most of my windows are on vacation
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: resetaard should default all the standard windows
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Itty Kitty Purr Tech: Thank you!
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: how do i make the mushclient main output background true black
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you tried changing colours?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: game -> configure -> colours
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just make sure you removed background image first
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: yes, i have set it to black, but it still have this greyish background, can see the image
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: how do i remove the image?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think you need either alter aard_layout.xml plugin or change images in worlds/plugins/images
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just change aardbg13.png, aardgb8.png, bg1.png and bg2.png so they are all black (with mspaint or your favourite image editor)
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: its 2018. its win10. that means they had 10 chances to get it right. can you my fifa18.web stream vid and mush get along here? 
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: can you imagine*
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: this is horrible. windows cannot do windows. they should rename
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: I have a sqlite table, 2 columns (text), all rows are unique. Is it best to use a virtual table for queries (queries would return 1 row).
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: I notice the Aardwolf.db uses a virtual table for room name and room id.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: for ColorNote, how do I get bright green color? I use Green and that only gives me dark green.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can use any html color name.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: ok. let me google the html color names. :)  thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Or just look here: \\\world.Debug "colours"
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Heh, didn't know that existed.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: \\\Debug("colours") works, too. :p
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: I think Lime is about right for bright green. thanks.  :)
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: which ones scuzi? hdd or sdd?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: which one holds firewire
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Mush questions answered here by Fiendish
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what bamboo said
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So let me tell ya'll about this little menu command useful for debugging... if ever something looks wonky, Game -> Trace (or Ctrl+Alt+T) will spam the hell out of you, but you can execute the command that makes something wonky, and find out just what is firing at that exact moment. Use it. :p
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: most of the spam is from the repaint buffer plugin
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or anything else that activates every tick
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's how I found out that I had a trigger being stupid and coloring my history incorrectly. :P
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: I want to have a pure black background for my main output window.. where can I change it.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well you have a couple of options
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can make your own custom theme file and set the logo opacity to 0
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Fiendish should probably integrate those options at some point, considering how many people apparently do not want the wolf logo. *shifty*
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, I guess you did with custom themes.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: thanks. I will try it
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or, if you don't want to make a custom theme and/or you're just trying to rip off my work for another game, you can remove worlds/plugins/images/aardbg13.png
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: theme files are in lua/mw_themes
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: question for fiendish. What the difference between using a virtual table vs an index. The aardwolf.db uses one for example.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sometimes I do things just because I can
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: I think that's more of a question for the Creator
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: i dont like mushclient forums =p
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why not
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: what is the name of the plugin or lua file that does the database backup ?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which what now?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: the database backup
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't assume that there's only one
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what does it say?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: the last line says: FINISHED DATABASE BACKUP. YOU MAY NOW GO BACK TO MUDDING.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what do the middle lines say
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: ok, i remove aardbg13.png and i have the perfect black bg :)
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: PERFORMING AUTOMATIC DATABASE BACKUP. DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING! CHECKING MAP DATABASE INTEGRITY MAP DATABASE INTEGRITY CHECK PASSED  BACKING UP DATABASE
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: CHECKING MAP DATABASE INTEGRITY MAP DATABASE INTEGRITY CHECK PASSED
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: See, "MAP DATABASE" would have probably been enough information the first time. :P
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: and the answer  is ?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: map
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why are you asking?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: map.lua ?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's the gmcp mapper plugin
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but why do you want to know?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: because
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: why do you ask?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i want to see what it does and how it does it
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: come on man, play the game
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't remember if it uses Note or print, but it's probably one of those
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: he gives you a hard time, you give him one. round it goes
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: just looking for the correct sql syntax for checking the mapper db integrity, as an example for other dbs
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what makes you think I do it correctly?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: because it works
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: allegedly
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Works does not equate to correctly.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for all you know it's just a series of print statements
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the results are in quotes after all
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I can clear my nose out by picking it, doesn't mean it's correct.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: it might just be a stub - ive lost count of the number of alleged unit-tests ive written...
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: well, it has worked so far, that's good enough for me
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean, that's a pretty good way to clear your noes
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers with Long Time Fiendish about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: sorry I asked
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm not. it's a fine thing to want to know, I just wish the question had been more clear at first
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you use Notepad++, you can search for words in directories of files and save yourself the trouble of dealing with the dynamic duo on tech talk
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley is not a dynamic duo.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, it's probably in aard_GMCP_mapper.xml
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: well, I use Textpad, but that's beside the point
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I use fingerpaints
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: <--- VIm
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mannec buffs his nails on his cloak. What a stud.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the point was about the word searching in files, but ok
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I legit just googled that, Fiendish.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: fingerpaints?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hah
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: googled fingerpaints editor
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yes, i can do that, was seeing if i can get a quick answer, but I guess that doesn't happen around here
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not with that kind of "what's the thing called" question you don't
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I use Microsoft's Visual Studio Code. I still wish they would add a Right-click menu option for select all.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the scroll bar is frustrating for me
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no pinky on your left hand?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I prefer mouse work rather than shortcuts sometimes. It's why Google Docs pisses me off, too. Can't Copy/Cut/Paste with the mouse anymore.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol yeah, that one pisses me off because they do it for no reason
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: if my plugin crashes it gives me a line where the error occured. What is the line number referring to? because it aint the line in my plugin.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Then they shove a big box in your face saying, "But you can Ctrl+C!"
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Rauru: from the start of the plugin script section
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the whole plugin doesn't go to the Lua engine, only the script block does
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: does it start at the tag or what
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: ive seen it way off for some reason, meh
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What I normally do is copy what's in the script portion and move it to its own file so I can correspond line numbers more easily.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's never off, though <send> blocks also go to the lua engine
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Anything that's sent to the Lua engine needs to be counted, too.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: (It's why you're probably better off sending to script rather than using <send> tags in aliases and triggers).
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: somewhat related, can vscode auto ident my lua and highlight errors, refactor etc. ?
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mostly. the send block has slightly different execution timing (send to script happens first, then the script section stuff happens, then send after omit happens)
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It can auto ident Lua, for sure. As for highlighting errors, not so much. It will highlight corresponding brackets, though.
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Rauru: yes, but it will fail if you give it a whole plugin, because it can't do both xml and lua at the same time
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: right now im just using notepad++ but its cumbersome to just load the plugin to check if it compiles or not
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've never seen an editor that understands that different parsers might be nested
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: rauru: i create 2 aliases - 1 to reload plugin by ID and another to load from file. makes it much easier than manually adding/reloading during debug
T3/r7/2018-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: speaking of cerbot, it keeps bombing when I request a cert.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: how do I use  GetVariable("varName") within an Execute?   Execute("get GetVariable("MyBestWeapon") ybag") doesn't seem to work.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You concact it.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Execute("get " .. GetVariable("blah")) -- no @ needed.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: oh. let me try that. :)
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: For yours, Execute("get " .. GetVariable("MyBestWeapon") .. " " .. GetVariable("Mybag")
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: )
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: protip, make sure you match all open brackets.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: woah, it worked. thanks!
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You're welcome.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley shows proof he's not always a jackass. *shifty* "All you haters out there... yeah, I'm talking to you!"
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: https://xkcd.com/221/
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Visual Studio Code will be updated after it restarts.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: Looking at the GMCP wiki page. What situations would the request commands be used?
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, room.area isn't populated unless you specifically request it.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: how often is the other stuff sent 
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Honestly, though it should always be updated with a plugin broadcast, you can always make sure you have the most up-to-date information.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: oh i just found fiendish github wiki page, ill read that
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: where can I find some very simple plugins that uses GMCP so I can learn how it works?
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, honestly, it's quite easy to describe how it works in general.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Fiendish has made it easier with: require 'gmcphelper', because now all you have to do is type: print(gmcp("char.vitals.hp")) for example to get your hitpoints.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If you type gmcpdebug 1, you'll start seeing what gmcp tables look like, and you can liken them to Lua tables, except they're JSON format.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: ok. I will check his stuff out. thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Fiendish's plugins that come with the package are complicated at first glance, but all you really need to learn about is OnPluginBroadcast, so search for that function and learn from it.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: Does using gmcphelper (therefore the gmcp plugin) negate the need for the onpluginbroadcast?
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: No
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: what i read so far it sounds like the onplugin is listening for data from the gmcp plugin. 
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The answer is pretty much yes and no. If you do not care to have a trigger off everytime GMCP broadcasts, then you don't need to worry about OnPluginBroadcast because gmcphelper does that for you. However, if it's pertinent to have something fire the second it changes, then you want to use OnPluginBroadcast.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Could go as far as to say, if you're actualy requesting the gmcp data, you might not need the table constantly updated....example would be a stat report script where you request the data when you use the script, so continusly updating would be pointless
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Exactly, Gladacus.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: So onplugin is used when you want to immediately trigger off new information broadcasted by the gmcp plugin?
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Correct.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: kk
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: gmcphelper is useful when you just want to pull the information.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Which is why all the scripts in mush run with onpluginbroadcast so that all the miniwindows have live data
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this is so bad
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you're requesting gmcp data, it doesn't matter how frequently you need updates, you still want to use OnPluginBroadcast, because you don't have another way of knowing when the server has responded to your request
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: gmcp() is for looking at the gmcp data you have. OnPluginBroadcast is for knowing when you have more 
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: anyone familiar with bounceportal/bouncerecall willing to send me a tell
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: is there a mushclient function to get all aliases of a plugin
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: GetPluginAliases(id)
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I think.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I'm sorry, GetPluginAliasList(id)
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: rauru: look for MUSHclient_Help.xml and add it. then you can do "mchelp xxx" to search for stuff or get details once you know what you want to check out
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: such as: mchelp alias
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: I see there is GetTriggerList() which gets them if called within a plugin, weird there isnt the equivalent for aliases.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I just told you...
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: that requires an Id
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: ill look that up endy 
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: GetTriggerList() only shows for what you have in MUSH, not plugins.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can create an alias in a plugin for GetAliasList, though.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: "If GetTriggerList is called from within a plugin, the triggers for the current plugin are used, not the "global" MUSHclient triggers."
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yep. GetAliasList does the same thing if you call it from within the plugin.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: anyone wanna hear elmer fudd explain how to colonize the sun? search youtube for 'isaac arthur'
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: you are all welcome :p
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hellion Anaristos looks at Mannec and goes "Heh."
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: colonizing the sun? wouldnt wish that on my worst enemies.. or would i?
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: dude - totally viable.  wouldnt even need new technology, just like ... alot of it.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: I read a book about that once, maybe by Brin? I can't remember
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: could be.  david? brin writes yummy.
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: been done before  Smash Mouth     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQj--Kjn0z8
T3/r7/2018-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i _said_ it wouldnt need any new tech :p
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: is there a performance difference between a single trigger on e.g. "^hello$|^world$" and two separate triggers
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: if there is it wont be noticeable...
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i think it all depends entirely on how complex your expressions are and how many triggers youre actually using
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mannec agrees!
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: with anything like a decent client running on modern hardware, you would need very special tools to detect the difference.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: my trigger has 10 OR's
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: not to mention that its always going to be case-independant
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: same answer
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: kk
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: to give you some context, i have been known to run a couple of thousand triggers, in a 10yr-old client, on first-generation pentium hardware - with no noticable slowdown.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Your example trigger would be best cleaned up as "^(?hello|world)$", Rauru.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Er, "^(?:hello|world)$"
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: or without the ?: if you for some reason want to capture that into a backreference
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Kobus.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: where does it capture it if i omit the ?:
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: wildcards?
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: wildcards or the %1-99 vars
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: depending on how youre using the trigger
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: actually both technically..
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: in <send> you can use %1 or in a function its wildcards[1]
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: Other question, I notice the mush function AddTriggerEx doesnt have a group parameter. Is the only way to add it to a group with SetTriggerOption ?
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: looks like it, ive never used addtriggerex
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you could make your own wrapper function that also includes the group and have a call to addtriggerex and settriggeroption if you feel like youll use that often
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZigZag \o/ Slyzor Tech: Anyone got expertise in regex coding for Blowtorch?
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: It is lua regex
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZigZag \o/ Slyzor Tech: How can I gag all text from channels, and Only let text trough with keywords of my choice?
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: How do astronomers organise a party? They planet.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: howcome I get this error:"[string "Trigger: "]:1: unexpected symbol near '=='"    for        "if %1 == "Mage" then" ?
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well most cases we use '' instead of ""....and for my part, not sure, as long as %1 a variable, should be write
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Right even
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: why ' ' , instead of " "?
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: funny enough, there's some cases where it needs to be one or the other iirc, like usualy sqlite uses the qoutation marks instead of the '
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: I have use "" in my other IF statements and it works.  :(
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Could be that %1 isn't defined I guess....sadly the proper tech people are MIA today
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: As in it's a nil value
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: I think the %1 is the problem.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Tordan you need to surround the %1 in quotations.. otherwise its like saying that if mage == 'mage' one being a variable the other a string
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: ok. let me try that.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: That won't produce an error code though
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: it will just return a return case if you make it if %1 == 'Mage' then....
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: So yes, odds are your error about unexpected symblo is the %1
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: if "%1" == 'Mage' then    still didn't work. the Setvariable inside the if statement didn't change the variable value. 
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: let me colornote hte %1 and see.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: yeah, the %1 displayed from Note is a blank, null value.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: What's your trigger and what's your send?
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: what is wrong with     INFO\: Tordan has been reborn as a (.*?)    ?
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: and I test trigged it with [say INFO: Tordan has been reborn as a Mage asd sdf d]
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Is it a reg ex
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: it is a regular ex
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: the trigger trigs but the %1 is null.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: use '' instead of "" just wondering if that is it
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: its been a while since I used a mudside trigger, lol
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: I tried earlier as suggested by Gladacus but it didn't work.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: There are mudside triggers?!
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol I meant client side
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: I think the problem is the wildcard giving me null value.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Tordan, do you have the trigger set to send to script and regex checked in the checkbox?
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: yupe, both of them.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: the other part triggers when I took out the If statment.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: when you just print(%1) what do you get?
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: I did with Note(" what is %1") and I just get "what is"
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: But it did trigger
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: yes, it triggers
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: existential test?  like:
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: if not %1 and ......
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: I am going to delete and remake the trigger and see.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the problem is it doesnt have to match anything so it's not
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you anchor it, it will
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ^INFO\: Tordan has been reborn as a (.*?)$
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: then do: echo INFO: Tordan has been reborn as a Mage asd sdf d
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you will get: "Mage asd sdf d"
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: I had to take the ^ off to test the trigg.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no use "echo"
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Don't have to, use echo
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: oh.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: there a period at the end of that Reborn info?
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Period is caught with (.*)
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: INFO: Grayghost has been reborn as a Wolfen Thief.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: I want to catch the class on the reborn.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion gasps as he realizes what A Nimwit Bamboo did.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: period literally is caught with \.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: and I am not sure what the whole reborn info statement
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: otherwise it will catch anything
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Ahh he wants to get the value
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did my paste not show up?
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I should pay more attention
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: INFO: Grayghost has been reborn as a Wolfen Thief.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: I am redoing the whole trig.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Use what endy posted
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Or pasted
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: P*sted
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: or P.sted
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you could always use gmcp to get your current remort and race
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but i guess not without using script, so meh
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: Redid the trig and it works now.  Before I didn't have \. at the end of the trig: INFO\: Tordan has been reborn as a (.*?)\.   and it was giving me null in the %1 value, but with \. at the end, it is giving me the proper reborn class name.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: Thank you all for helping. :)
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: INFO: Tordan has been report as a Master Scripter.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: Tol, yes, I do have to use "" around my %1, thanks. :)
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did that mess with you, or did you anchor? :p
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: INFO: Endymion has been reborn as a Silly Head.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh dammit i did report lol
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: INFO: Tordan has been reborn as a Master Scripter.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: success!
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: There goes Fatal FrostBite giggling again, and this time he's looking towards Endymion.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: I don't know how to anchor a trigger.  I think (.*?)\.  without the \.  gives me null value.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ^ at beginning and $ at end
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that requires the trigger to start and stop at the line, so nobody can spoof you
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: yes, I have added ^ and $, so now you don't trigger my trig.  :)
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: some people enjoy messing with people. its baffling to me
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion grins evilly.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ceinna Tech: Asked on newbie channel and they pointed me here. I am new to MUSHclient and new to Aardwolf. Trying to figure out how to set up an alias with an wildcard. So like... the alias of gb2 would be get *item* from 2.bag with the ability to tell the game each time what the item is. Anyone know how to set up MUSH aliases to do that?
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danicron Tech: i know this is going to sound silly but i want to know about triggers
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Redwood Tech: its not silly
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: gb2 * -> Get %1 2.bag
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tchalla Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=aliases
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ceinna Tech: you guys are awesomesauce. Thanks a bunchies!
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danicron Tech: for instance from the example i saw on a website just now, i can set a trigger to automatically drink whenever i get the message that i am thirsty
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danicron Tech: but i dont know how to do that
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magiccboy Tech: yeah. only thing my water skin is so limited. Heard there is a much bigger volume around
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danicron Tech: im using aardmush so would i set a client side trigger to do this?
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danicron Tech: i got the decanter so i dont have to worry about that
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Redwood Tech: if you have the decanter, just set a timer to drink from it
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danicron Tech: i never thought to ask am i allowed to set triggers like that or is it considered cheating?
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Classic Vost Tech: if you don't have the decanter, don't buy one!
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Redwood Tech: i have one set every 8 minutes
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Tyrant Redwood is agreeing with that Classic Vost person again...
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Auto gulp is not a bot
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magiccboy Tech: what is the item other than the decanter?
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Classic Vost Tech: I have chalice of the watchmen
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Classic Vost Tech: but there are several good containers sold by clans
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magiccboy Tech: watchmen.. here i come
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: is there a look that only looks at mobs in a room?
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tchalla Tech: con?
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danicron Tech: ahh sod it ill just use a timer that was far too much faffing about
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terminatus Tech: scan here  maybe?
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkened Tech: Is it possible to link to a function/subroutine in a hyperlink if the function is not part of a plugin?
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes should be.  You put it in the scripts file that you can set in the settings....
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Wouldnt that work with a plain old require?
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ooh wait - might have to do an alias or use a plugin file.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: I dont want to wait
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkened Tech: It
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkened Tech: it's sounding like I will need to move forward with creating a plugin to continue working on this.
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkened Tech: Thank you
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: HOnestly if you plan on doing much, seperate plugin files are really the best way to manage it and keep it all seperate.....
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: https://pastebin.com/5YcGgQ4J  ----ideas what might cause this?? came back to screens full of it
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Reload the GMCP plugin
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Looks like it just crapped the bed and is spewing malformed JSON as a result
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: lol thanks, I restarted mush it's good atm but will reload gmcp plugin next time it happens and see if that's the problem
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: or fixes it I should say
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Also interestingly enough it's not spweing it in a single block but getting interrupted by MUD output
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: are there any other spellup plugins other than bast's?
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: here is where I ask what's wrong with bast's that has you looking for another one
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: I'm not really sure, it doesn't seem to be working anymore
T3/r7/2018-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what does bsp check say? It tells you why it isn't casting spells.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: mis
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nectarios Tech: using the aardwolf mushclient for some reasons say (from like the academy recruiter, receptionist..npcs) isn't getting logged to the main window even though I have it set to send says to the main window..is there a different channel for npc talk or something?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mobsay
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there a way to ignore text? Every time I enter a room with mismatched exits, I get the message "(This room has exits that don't match the MUD, but you've chosen to ignore it.)" from Mapper. I can't seem to turn this off and one of these rooms is Aard Hotel, which is annoying because I go there a lot. Is there a plugin that can just purge this text so I never see it?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can do mapper ignore mismatch true
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Or change it to false
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Looks like you may want to mapper ignore mismatch false
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: any blind players here can explain the guardian maps and how they work please
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Dimples: If you type 'h' you'll get a help text to hopefully help you out.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: I tried to install plugins, getting Timer function "init_plugin" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: nonstop
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: 2-3 times a second
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: any ideas how to fix?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Uninstall the plugin?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: they arent showing up on the plugin list
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: init_plugin is in winkle's mapper extender
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: reload it
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: how do I find it to disable it?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: reload it as in import it again?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: um your plugin list
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: it's not on the list
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: when I ctrl shift p
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what isnt in the list?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: I dont see anything with winkle on it
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well possibly its something else then, dunno
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: can you scroll up to where it started and look for the block of red text with the first error?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: this error is turning my whole screen red
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Try to import the winkle stuff again
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I think Ocho's looking for init_plugin rather than Winkle's Mapper Extender.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: I quit out and restarted thinking that would fix it
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: alright, re-importing
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well he said nothing with winkle, shrug
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: alright, re-importingtech Line   35: Duplicate trigger label "trg_cp_complete"  (trigger not loaded)
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: hundreds of these : Line  358: Tag not used: <script> (muclient)
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: whole screen is red now
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Are they still not on the list
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: nope
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: cp_complete sounds like winkle
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: few with lasher, few with fiendish, few with multiple for creators, none with winkle
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sort it by name, check for winkle in the name field?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: I only have the default 18
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: not on the list 
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: could try \\\UnloadPlugin("e50b1d08a0cfc0ee9c442001")
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: that is the ID of the winkle plugin https://github.com/AardStarling/Search-and-Destroy-1.3.5/blob/master/WinkleWinkle_Search_Destroy_v1.3.5.xml
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: disable them one by one till it stops
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Don't do what Shotgun said
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dont see init_plugin in s&d, just extender which is ID b6eae87ccedd84f510b74715
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: How to check mush version?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: help -> about
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: help about
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: How about release number?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Just type checkversion
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can also use package update check to see if you have the most up-to-date version.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: how to update aardmush without losing map data?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: or any data for that matter, like triggers etc
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: they won't overwrite the database or any non-aardwolf package plugins
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Automatic installer will just overwrite pertinent files.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: mapdata is within aardwolf.db  copy and paste old aardwolf.db to new mush's directory. for your 2nd question, see:  https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/unzip_upgrading.html
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Negader: That's super old style.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: it worked for me
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Obsolete, in fact.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: With the installer from Fiendish's github, you don't have to. Of course, if you use the zip file, then you can do it that way.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: thanks rauru, crowley, negader
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: yall bamboo is awesome and solved the issue
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: that suuuucked
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I really didn't
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: The latest mush client fixed it heh
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: So about those tabs on the new client.. how does that work
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Speak of the devil
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I'll ask again
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: So about those tabs on the new client.. how does that work
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: What the. FLANDERS? You're the devil?!
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: It's always the one you least suspect.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo whispers softly to Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what do you mean how do they work
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: don't worry about how they work as long as they work
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: In other words, he has no idea, and just is glad it's working for SOMEONE. *srun*
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Do they get benefits tho
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: as a joke.. I googled Netscape Navigator so I could make up a stupid question to post here.. apparently they have an updated version of Netscape Navigator for 2018 (unless its just a Virus!)
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: they don't get to sleep with me if that's what you mean
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I use Netscape Navigator.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: you don't desserve the internet, Jerry
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: Okay sorry Im back.. got kicked off.. someone called me
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: "Netscape Navigator is a discontinued proprietary web browser, and the original browser of the Netscape line, from versions 1 to 4.08, and 9.x."
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: where do you think there's a 2018 version?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: google it
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: haha, i was like 170 versions behind, dayumn
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Apparently on Softonic's website.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't think that says what you think it says
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: "Download Netscape Navigator latest version 2018."
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: click on it
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: go to the page
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 170 versions is more than what i was promised
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Clickbait. :p
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: You first
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: "Hey guys, get Windows 3.1 latest version 2018!"
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: fiendish is here.. I can ask mushclient questions now
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "Download Netscape Navigator for Windows  Version:    9.0.0.6"
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 9.0.0.6 is from 10 years ago
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's still the "latest version" for 2018.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Netscape exists?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: except as much as any software continues to exist after it stops being maintained
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: Crowley if you make me fall out of my chair again.. im suing
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Good luck finding out my name.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Alistair
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: Alastair *duck*!
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Wrong Crowley! :P
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: damn you Fiendish!
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: aleister?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's Fergus! McCleod!
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh crap.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: Cyril Figgis?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Cyrano deBergerac?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh man
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Aleister Crowley's daughter "Nuit Ma Ahathoor Hecate Sappho Jezebel Lilith Crowley"
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: I think my screen is too small to properly display my windows in mushclient
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles at Long Time Fiendish's joke.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Pleiades: good
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: MUSH works just fine playing from my smart microwave *shrug*
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: pleiades: how small is your screen
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: bamboo: what's the question about tabs?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Oh nothing in particular
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Just how you use them and stuff
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Bamboo: right-click add new tab
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I don't have mush so I can't try..
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can separate channels.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: then you can give the tab a name, you can control which tab captures what
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Ahh
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: You can even name them
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So for instance, all tech to one tab, tells/gtell to another, ftalk/spouse to another, clan to another, etc.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: can you have different windows with different tabs?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's just the comm log with tabs for the moment.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Do they have "notifications" if they get new payload?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The color of the tab changes.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Sweet jeebus
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Jilted: yes, with the same method as making multiple windows before
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: https://i.imgur.com/51ppeFt.png -- all those not gray have activity in them.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Kudos mr fiendish person!
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: there is no way to pass a table as a parameter using CallPlugin, is there?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: my version is super out of date so I'm not 100% on how to make multiple chatloig windows anyway
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Mapper's map file, is it aardwolf.db?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: rauru: you have to serialize the table into a string first
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Bamboo: the map file is whatever your world is named .db
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the default world name is Aardwolf so the mapper file is Aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: is there a way to popout windows in the mush client to use on my second monitor?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: buaahaha
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: No.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: masticate: no
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: ahhh boo
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Everything is contained within the MUSHclient window.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient is fundamentally a single window application
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and changing that is basically impossible
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I gotta run now. I'll be back later.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You could stretch MUSHclient to be open on both monitors, then move windows as you like, though. But they all disappear if you click on another window.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: yeah that would work if my monitors had the same reselution
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Could write a third-party program to cull the information, like of like what Grafit did years ago with zMUD.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And AardDevil was the program name.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: does room.area only update when it is requested ? 
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dame Time Raded Tech: how do I tell my mom to get away from the weird Windows 8 start screen
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dame Time Raded Tech: like an easy keyboard shortcut
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Secretly update her to Windows 10.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dame Time Raded Tech: need a 5 second fix
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Take out her Win key?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dame Time Raded Tech: this isnt helpful
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Tell her it will secretly gather her personal info
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I don't know, never been asked that question before.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dame Time Raded Tech: I want a STart -> All Programs
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Can download Classic Menu for Windows 8. It'll mimic Windows 7.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dame Time Raded Tech: I did that, it reversed somehow
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yuck.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: The standard screen requires 8.1 if im not mistaken
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: I should know the answer to this as I have only updated my laptop about 6 or 7 months ago.. but I had it configured to start the standard windows screen upon boot
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dame Time Raded Tech: is there a free program I can install on it to let me control it remotely eventually?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: https://lifehacker.com/how-to-make-windows-8s-start-screen-actually-useful-1593655320
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dame Time Raded Tech: problem got solved
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: what was the hotkey
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dame Time Raded Tech: I dunno, she clicked on a thing and it came up. I have no idea what happened.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dame Time Raded Tech: I'm gonna strangle the guy that designed that Windows 8 tile screen
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: Now that I think of it I believe it was Windows + Tab key
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: when I do gmcp("room.area.name") it returns me nothing =\
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: room.zone
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: huh
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sorry room.info.zone
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: \\\require "gmcphelper" Note(gmcp("room.info.zone"))
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: gmcpdebug 1 shows me room.area { "id":"horizon", "name": "Nebulous Horizon", "x": 14, "y": 9, "z": 4, "col": "", "flags": "" }
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Odd if it doesn't show the name on that, then.
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: using the deprecated gmcpval(fieldname) function works, meh
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i am curious why i dont see that at all, only get zone in room.info
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: \\\Send_GMCP_Packet("request area")
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh there it is
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: I am getting a "Trigger function "cp_check_end" not found or had a previous error." when I type cp ch with my S&D, any idea what is going on?
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: nm, just reinstalled and it seemed to fix itself
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I forget, how do I enable timers in mush
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: First, you go to Mr. Gammon's website where he has a TON of useful info on Timers =P
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: then... you read that info and finally... you USE that info!
T3/r7/2018-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Real ninja Starling!!!  Fatal FrostBite cheers her on.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: any way to realign the values in the stat window to be aligned to the right instead of right after stats?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: cast summon Fiendish
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: meh, my ssd is running out of space, should i buy another?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: so is keepvid dead?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it looks like keepvid is dead as far as youtube downloads go.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: aren't there bunch of other ones though?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: is there a plugin that logs dtrack over time?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: cmon fiendish, enough sunday snoozing
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Zigenare: There isn't a way unless you modify the plugin itself.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: thanks crowley, i had to actually think what I asked haha
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigenare Tech: need to enslave Fiendish to do that in an update i guess
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You could ask him to add that feature. Everything else is aligned to the right rather than to the left.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: is there a dtrack window plugin?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nectarios Tech: anyone seen an error w/ aardwolf_health_bars plugin for the mushclient?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nectarios Tech: [string "Plugin: Aardwolf_Health_Bars"]:629: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Did you modify that plugin yourself?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nectarios Tech: nope
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Never came across that error before. Is it repeatable?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nectarios Tech: yeah everytime I try to reinstall the plugin or load up the client
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What are your settings for the health bars?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nectarios Tech: how can I see them without it loading the plugin?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You could open up the plugin's state file to see what your settings are if it doesn't load up at all.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nectarios Tech: huh..
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nectarios Tech: <variable name="width">-464</variable>
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Interesting.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Mine is 779.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I lied, 739.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Maybe try changing it to that to see if it fixes your problem.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: anyone know if i can just get the hp of my char and then with another key press the health of my victim please
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i would think you would want that info in your battle prompt.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i should mention i am blind and use a screen reader
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: no keypresses needed.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can set your prompt to display only those two options, Dimples. You can also create a clientside alias to display the info.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: and how would a idiot go about doing that
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If you want only those two at any given time, the alias would be fine, and I can write it up for you real quick. Otherwise, go with the battleprompt option.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: well what i am finding is when i am fighting by the time my screen reader has read it the battle is over or i am dead
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: ouch!
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: yes 
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Dimples, I need you to test something since I don't know myself. What happens if you type \\\print("This is a test to see if the screen reader will read it.") ?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: so i thought with key press hp that would show my health and something for the mob
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: what just type print
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: does your screen reader read symbols onscreen like a backslash or a forward slash?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: you may also find some useful information in help vi, and help spamreduce - the less work your reader has to do, the better.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Mannec.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: if i changed my vobosity 
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Thanks, Jilted, I was about to type out the entire thing character by character. :P
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i am using nvda
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Dimples: three backslashes followed by print, open parentheses, double quote, a sentence of your choosing, double quote, close parentehses
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Does the screen reader read out what your chosen sentence says?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: not sure what you mean
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Actually, since it appears on your screen, I imagine it should work. Hold on, I'll send you something to copy/paste.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: that probably means he doesnt see the symbles \\\print///
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: it just reads it to me
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: if you just type the symbols i can copy and paste
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: does it read "forward slash and backslash" or just print
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nectarios Tech: hmm the state.xml file keeps getting reset by the client
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: just slash
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: so if i type /// all i hear is slash three times
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Dimples, https://pastebin.com/raw/Ap7THFRZ --> go to that link, copy that page, come back to MUSH, hit Ctrl+Shift+9, then locate the Paste button, hit paste. Close out that box, then type 'health'
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Typing health will give you your health info as well as the enemy you're currently targeted on. You can set it to a keypress on numpad if you like, but for now, just want to make sure it works for you.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: it saying that is not a command
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Did you copy the alias I told you in that link?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: did not see anything from you
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: https://pastebin.com/raw/Ap7THFRZ
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You get the link that time?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: right i have copy and pasted it in my browser so it is now opened
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Okay, so copy the text that's on that page. Once you've done that, let me know.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: ok do i do select all and copy
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: right if it copyed all it said copyed to clip board
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Perfect. Now open up Aliases in MUD by holding down Control, Shift, and 9. You'll want to locate the Paste button, paste it, and close out that window.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Have you been successful in pasting that, Dimples?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: think so
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Okay, so type 'health' now, and what does it say?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: yes it said my health is 100% and i am not in combat
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Good!
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: so i can even shorten that with a alias is that right
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So now any time you want an instant report, just type 'health' and it'll give you that information as well as the information for the mob you're in combat with.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: like alias hp health
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, you can change the alias name to whatever you want for sure. Or you can bind it to a key (like num 7 on numpad).
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: now how do i do that
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Unfortunately, you wouldn't be able to use a MUDside alias for it. But you can change 'health' to hp
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If you hold down Shift, Control, 1, you'll open up the Keypad configuration. You'll want to leave the boxes that have directions or look alone (so 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, -, +), but any of the others, you can put 'health' (or hp if you change it).
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i will not change the name
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: thanks i have put it on number 1 on the keypad
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Awesome! It was my pleasure to help you. And thanks to whomever sent the flowers! *shifty*
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i think a lot of blind players are going to bow at your feet for this
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: too bad crowley smells funny
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: well it makes life a bit easyer for us
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling hugs Mr. Crowley.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: what is the plugin that report your QPs earned from quests to gt channel?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Plenty of those around.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Bast's, for instance, I think.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: which one is the simplest and easiest to use?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: what is the name of Bast's?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: finger bast, go to website
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: ok. let me check his plugin names..
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: do you want to auto report to gtell, or have a command to do it?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: auto report
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: or do a tell to myself
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: hmm, I'll add it to S&D because why not
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion pukes.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: No.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Please don't.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Create a separate plugin if you must, but don't add it to S&D.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: wait, you make S&D? :)
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: She currently maintains it.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I work it, yes
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: on it, that is
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I can't type
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: ah, cool. thanks! :)
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: you're welcome! :)
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: She's far from the original author, though.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But she's added features that are nice, implemented a couple of my ideas. :P
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: well, thank Starling and everyone else worked on it. :)
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: steal my thunder, u jerk
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: you dont have ideas
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: only abelinc does
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So if you think something could be changed with S&D, shoot her a tell or a note.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I should write an autofapper for Crowley
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: She'll consider it, throw it in your face, then add it later anyway. *srun*
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: oh, can you sort the room list mobs that can be in by the % ?  :)
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What does that even mean?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: you know like after S&D gathered enough info it tells you the %age that mob might be in this particular room?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I haven't had a room cp yet since the latest version, since I test things out for her anyway, but I hope she added 'sort room list by area' like I did in my own copy. *shifty*
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That'd require a huge mob database. :p
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: There's no way to tell which room a mob is actually in without a mob database or prior knowledge.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: but does S&D have some data already about the number of times a quest mob have been killed in certain roomID?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: no, it doesn't track on that
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: there is a 'mobquest' serverside command though
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: but where does the percentage beside the possible room ID comes from?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what per centage?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: you know when you HT a mob while questing and it gives you a list of rooms?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: like, Index, Room#, Room Name, SW, and Probability?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: the Probability is cpercentage.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ok mine doesnt have that
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Where did you get your s&d?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i never HT a quest tho, so maybe thats why i dont see it?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: not just HT a mob. but click on mob on S&D will give you that too.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: technically, isn't possible to hunt trick a qmob because there's no error message for it to respond to
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Where did you get your s&d?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I think Tordan's speaking hypothetically instead of what's already there.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: oh
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: As in wanting that as a feature.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dont think so, crowley
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: if you guys don't have the Probability column maybe the Helper , named Level can help you. :)
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if you didn't get your S&D from me, you've got either an outdated version or a questionably modded version
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: why is it questionable?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: because gq modding is highly frowned upon in some circles
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: which is why mine doesn't have it
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: pfft
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I agree but such is mud life
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Didn't someone one ask you not to attach a mob database to it too, Starling?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: no, no one asked me that but I know someone well enough to know what someone would say about such a thing
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I thought you mentioned it before.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Anyway, out for the moment to wait for my delicious delivery. May switch up to Indian food for dinner. *srun*
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im sure the people with 1k+ gquest wins would love it if starling didn't attach a mob database to s&d. hilarious.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it's better that way, trickle down economics is good for everyone.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: yah man, the cbo said the average increase in salary would be $4,000. so far in Q1 its been less than $350.. so much trickle
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: u getting robbed, son
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: DINV has me wearing 4 gameload items! nice!
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: what's a good alternative to outlook that is free
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: gmail?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Plenty out there. alternative.to --> check out that site.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Just put in the program you want alternatives to, and it'll create a list based on how many votes each program has.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: I wish I had thought of creating this site
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terminatus Tech: that's awesome, I'll have to remember that one
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles at Aimbot TrEz's joke.
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: what is the debug function to see colors
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looking for rawcolors?
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: for mushclient
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: it was Debug("Colours")
T3/r7/2018-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'll give you "named" colors...there's also Debug("colors256") with similar output but indexed by the xterm colors
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: what is the 'comm.quest.completed' field?
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Anaristos Tech: sorry :)
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: how do i force aardclient to record level ranges for areas?
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: it's usually done at startup but it keeps trying to do it before i even log in
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: which plugin reinstalls certain other plugins when i try to remove them?
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: how do i check how many rooms my aard mapper has mapped in a particular area?
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i can't use the in-game explore function, i already explored every room but my mapper hasn't
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: mapper unmapped here tells me unmapped exits, not total number of rooms i have already mapper
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i have already mapped in the area*
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: mine doesn't seem to have an option for that, but it's older
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: it's a db in the end, you could make an alias to query it if it's important
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: how would i try to query it?
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Bobolai: mapper unmapped here
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Oh sorry, you knew of that
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Your queries would be: All areas: select area, count(uid) as mapped from rooms group by area order by area asc; Specific area: select count(uid) as mapped where area = '<area_short_name>';
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkened Tech: Is it possible to get gmcp charcter and room values from a world alias or trigger?
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Please elaborate.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No More Wars Tech: I am very new to scripting ect but I have an alias that pulls char level from gmcp data
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkened Tech: I'd like to get my characters status and some room data for a plugin and an alias
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Then you'll want to require 'gmcphelper' and pull the information with gmcp("char.status.<whatever>") etc for each field ou want.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can also use OnPluginBroadcast for immediate information updates upon entering a room, if you wanted.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkened Tech: I have that. Perhaps I'm not calling the correct info
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That's provided you're using the AardMushclient package.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What information are you trying to pull? 
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: (Also, turn on gmcpdebug 1 to see how it's structured so you can call it correctly)
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: For example, gmcp("char.vitals.level") would return your current level.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Er, char.status.level, my bad.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkened Tech: When I try running gmcp("char.status.level") from the prompt, I get an error: gmcp (a nil value)
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Again, you have to require 'gmcphelper' first.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkened Tech: I have that in my script file
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So for the first run, you have to do \\\require 'gmcphelper'
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Like this: \\\require "gmcphelper" print(gmcp("char.status.level"))
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Then if you're loading your script file, it should work. But the fact it's saying gmcp is a nil value tells me it doesn't, or you're not loading it properly.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkened Tech: I'll keep working at it. At least I know it's possible to pull the values. Thank you.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You're welcome.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Oddly enough, I don't need the require when running from the prompt: \\\print(gmcp("char.status.level"))
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Daak: Probably because you've run a local trigger or alias that already calls it.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Once you require anything in MUSH locally, it stays active until you close MUSH out.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Ya I do. Thought the command prompt was scoped to itself
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Plugins have their own scope, but anything done within the local MUSH environment will be collectively scoped, too. Therefore, you could create tables from the command line and use triggers/aliases to reference them.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (object) Daak rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkened Tech: Looks like there may have been something wrong with my scripts file. Now I can get the data from the prompt.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Glad to have been of service.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: anyone please help me set up a trigger so when i am away from my computer i will not be disconnected
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Classic Vost Tech: I have a spellup script which effectively does that
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i am not good with computers so what would i do
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Classic Vost Tech: are you using MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Dimples: All you need to do is create a trigger off the phrase: Your eyes glaze over.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Then you can have it send something like spellup, an emote, whatever, even just send a blank line.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: how would i set that up
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Control Shift 8, then locate the 'Add' button. In the Trigger box, you'll put Your eyes glaze over.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: In the send box, type spellup
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Then hit okay and close out of the trigger diaglog box.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i did your eyes glaze over spellup is that right
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Only if you did them in the appropriate boxes. The "Your eyes glaze over." needs to have the period at the end and must be in the Trigger box.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The spellup needs to be in the box labeled "Send"
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: oh no i put it all in the same box
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: yu mean the send box for spellup
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes. If you tab 8 times from the trigger box, it'll put you directly into the Send box.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That's where you will put spellup.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: ok i will try again
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: ok i done that so we will see if i lose connection
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: As long as you set the trigger correctly, you should be perfectly fine.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Sure thing.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MagnetoSteve Tech: hi all - MUD client for OSX/mac - can anyone recommend which one works well/ you use with Aardwolf?
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: MUSHclient with WINE.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i wished mush would work with macos
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Finger Fiendish to get the link along with helpful information.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MagnetoSteve Tech: thank you crowley
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: Crowley that trigger did not work could you type it so i can copy and paste it in the trigger bosx please
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Give me a minute to write it up for you.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: np and thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Delete the trigger you created.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: https://pastebin.com/raw/c2H7HS6V -- Copy everything on that page (select all), come back to MUSH and Control Shift 8, locate the paste button, and paste, close, and you should be good.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: replay
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i copyed that 
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Good.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's pretty much the same one I use, so it should work for you.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: where do i put it please
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Did you delete the original trigger you set up?
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: how do i do that
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Control Shift 8, locate the trigger, select it, then click on Remove
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: ok i have removed it
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Okay, now that you have the other one copied, Control Shift 8 again, and just locate the "paste" button and it should paste the trigger.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: will it still say your eyes glaze over
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: ok then i pasted it so i will see when i have dinner
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: hmmmmmm
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: hmmmmmm
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Please stop spamming this channel.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If you have something to say, just say it.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: trying to find a quiet channel to test chat triggers in :/
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: gtell :)
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, don't do it on public channels.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Use gtell or ftalk, but not public channels.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: gtalk when no group, spouse
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: did not think of group talk, thankyou
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's ok
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: i didnt see it sorry
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: -20
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: oops thats not it
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite comforts Igamu.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: '-h 20
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: i didnt se the answer and can't seem to get the jargon right to scroll back...
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: is there a newverskon for blowtorch or can i use this one
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sure
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: oops ment to ask on tech is termius or sshtelnet clientany good
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: ok am looking for that in my kindle
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: im getting so frustrated with this app not downloading.. it wont let me download blowtorch on my kindle even though i logged onto google play to get it..
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: google actually hates people.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: amazon hates people too. it's like the worst of all worlds
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: it sure doesnt like my amazon kindle
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: thats why i was asking about the other apps that are avaiable on amazon... cos it wont let me download the blowtoarch onto my kindle
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: i give.
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah, I dunno, Igamu
T3/r7/2018-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: it will work out. i just have to kill my kindle nd beat it into submission...or say please with the right amount of crushing or something
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Interesting... 403 error on "whatismyip.org"
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i thoughts its: whatsmyip.org
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whatismyip.com, ipchicken.com, ipmonkey.com, etc. :-)
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Endy: Was whatismyip.org, but many other sites do the same anyway.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: abelinc
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Just weird to get a 403 error on it.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: why are the portals i set running into random walls or different directions when it enters the portals from mapper
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danicron Tech: hey how do i save where all my plugin minis are on screen
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danicron Tech: every time a close the client it puts my stat bar floating away in the middle somewhere
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danicron Tech: or will i just have to sort it every time?
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danicron Tech: or will i just have to sort it every time?
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danicron Tech: oops sorry
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: weird my stays the same
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: err mine stays where i put them, makesure the files are not read only
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: can someone please tell me why my portals are running into walls and random directions after adding them to the mapper
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: anybody else experiencin technical issues with twitter.com atm?
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Not here (us/east coast)
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: It's a random mobdrop might take some repops
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: miss*
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: if I want to share a string between two plugins is it better to use broadcastplugin or save it as a variable and use getpluginvariable
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Does Nvidea or Windows have a brightness setting?
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: both? Also your monitor should have one
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: lol, tv without remote, too lazy to find the right keys:P
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=windows+brightness
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: pull your t-shirt up over your face and look thru it
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Also, HDMI input doesnt support brightness on tv, dang it
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: No, don't pull up your tshirt... oh bother, there go his pants
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger drools all over himself -- making a TERRIBLE mess!
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: how do i find what plugin a trigger belongs to if I know the name
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: name of the trigger*
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: What OS?
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: for mushclient
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Ya, one what OS? ;p If it's Mac/Linux you can grep from command line real quick
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: oh, true. Windows though.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Can do text searches through explorer somewheres
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: i think there is a mushclient function to get the name
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Might be, what's the trigger name I can search mine if it's in one of the normal plugins
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: end_gag_keep
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Got two of those: aard_ASCII_map.xml and aard_chat_echo.xml
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: really weird. those have a sequence of 101, they shouldnt be blocking my trigger
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: Wait a sec is spell repetition via trigger legal?
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: help triggers
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: So TLDR play warrior because its automated mudside? ;/
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: triggering spells is considered gray area, last i checked
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dame Time Raded Tech: stacking is legal as long as you don't move between it
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dame Time Raded nods at Rauru.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: If the immortals find you in an aggro room, triggering spells and not at the keyboard ready to respond, it is considered botting.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: same goes with using trigger spells in pvp
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can trigger spells, but if it keeps you in combat and you go afk, you can still get in trouble.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dame Time Raded Tech: basically, "it wasn't a bot, it was just my spell repetition trigger!" isn't an accepted excuse and would still be considered botting if you're afk killing stuff.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terminatus Tech: is it possible to increase the font size of the ascii map in MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terminatus Tech: oh I found it!  (right click , derp)
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: right click in it and change font
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: when i right click on the map, a menu appears, one choice is "change font"
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: nod
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terminatus Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: never hurts to try a right click somewhere on the client
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terminatus Tech: right clicking everywhere now
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: I could make a plugin to make it hurt ;p
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: don't tease!
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: why is mushclient the wrong color?
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what color is the wrong color
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terminatus Tech: I just turned on xterm, why isn't that defaulted on for mushclient?
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it is if you use the aardwolf mushclient package
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terminatus Tech: huh. maybe I turned it off by accident at some point
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: at least I think it is
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Terminatus, are you talking about the MUD command xterm, or a setting in MUSHclient? Two different things entirely.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Pretty sure the MUD doesn't default to xterm at creation.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terminatus Tech: Ahh.. I see. I was talking about the mud command, yes
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm. but I should turn it on
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wonder if I don't
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion walks around in the room, looking very confused.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I don't think you set it with MUSH, probably because not everyone uses xterm.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Maybe, I don't know.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terminatus Tech: those rainbow flowers that just sold in the auction channel, if I didn't have recently turned on xterm I wouldn't have been able to see all the colors, right?
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terminatus Tech: well then good timing!
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think I'll turn it on for everyone at login
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wonder if anyone would complain
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terminatus Tech: I'm sure at least 1 person would, as a general rule :)
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hah
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It messes up my green monochrome monitor!
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you'd have color off then anyway
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Terminatus would complain that he didn't get the experience of turning it on himself.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm surprised that I wasn't already turning it on
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terminatus Tech: Pfft turning it back off now obviously. these are the DEVIL'S colors!
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you will turn it on automatically, then when i try to turn it on it will be turned off, and i'll blow up tech trying to figure out whats going on
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure which plugin should be responsible for turning this on
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess the gmcp handler is as good as any
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe it should be a prompt. give the people choice
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nope
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Promps screw things up.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: then again they could hurt themselves
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: having choices is usually worse than good defaults
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rise of Numericon Tech: I'd like to learn about using the concept of time in MUSHclient. I'm very new; if I wanted to say... automatically use the command "AFK" if I haven't been active over the past say, ten minutes, how would I go about this? I know very, very little but only because of the "wait" module, which isn't quite the same. I'd also like to store the time I've been away from the keyboard, just for fun though.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: plugins have a special function you can define that gets called whenever you send anything
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: check out OnPluginCommand and OnPluginCommandEntered
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you would start/reset a 10 minute timer there
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think the ascii map plugin currently does something like that
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because it requests a new map at each repop, but not if you're just idle
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: as long as another plugin doesnt Execute() a command it works great
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but you can put a note to see whats going on with either callback, to weed out any possible offenders
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: where's rauru
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: huh
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Rauru: you were wondering why you couldn't access gmcp("room.area") yes?
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's because room.area isn't valid at any point after it's received. it's just informative, not state about where you are
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's also not sent every time you change areas, because it's only sent if it's requested
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: ok
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: When i turn trace on I see "fired unlabelled timer" almost as much as "repaint buffer". are they related?
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: unalabelled timer could be anything
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but the repaint buffer plugin activates 25 times per second on a good day
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wonder if I can detect when trace mode is on and have it temporarily disable itself
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: were you just trying to get the full name of the current area?
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or the area coordinate or something?
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: just the area name
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you'll have to send a request for it and then watch OnPluginBroadcast for when it comes back
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: either that or we can rig up a function in the mapper that you can ask it what area you'r ein
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm open to that too
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but I believe right now the mapper only requests area info for areas it doesn't already know about. so you can easily imagine a scenario where you run 10e, and pass through three areas, but only the second area is requested because the others are already known 
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so when you get the info back you're actually not there anymore
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (for that reason, room.info is set to erase room.area data in the gmcp handler plugin, which is why you get back nothing)
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, all that is just to say that if you want room.area you have to watch for when it comes in, and if you want to make it come in you have to sendgmcp request area
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: yeah i got it working for what i needed
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish gives himself a thumbs-up... It's clear that he has a self esteem problem.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: can I tell dinv to ignore particular slots, like portal?
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes, by editing the priority.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: priority has eq slots in it?
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Sure does.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Yep, you can use ~[slotname] 1 to turn it off in the priority
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I suggested it to him. ;)
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Old School Durel bows before Mr. Crowley.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can ignore most anything, in fact, if you want to.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i do that wield wield/dual so i can kill slower
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Killing fast is for chumps.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: man i hate it when my fingers dont properly portray what i was thinkin
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: for example, see: dinv priority display psi-defense
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: that's a built-in priority that disables the "second" slot to turn off dual wielding
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: i see, thanks!
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: meet 3s for a hug?
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion tickles Veritheia.
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: where's my hug endymion?
T3/r7/2018-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Is it possible to call a function from the world script file, from a plugin? I've been searching for any information, but I can only find calling a function from a plugin.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Hmm, if a person allows the port for browser, would that allow windows update and all other nonsense to run too?
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: What's the function to get system time in hours/minutes or seconds?
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Badgrade Tech: does anyone know if there's a way to auto run a command on your modem i have iptables command i need
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you're using DD-WRT or something similar you could set up a cron job
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: most default router software, not that I know of
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Badgrade Tech: also how do i run iptables -t nat -D POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE to delete that particular rule
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Badgrade Tech: it says no rule matching that name
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-list-and-delete-iptables-firewall-rules
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Then there's no rule with that name...
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The error is your answer
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Badgrade Tech: shouldn't iptables -D POSTROUTING 1 delete the first rule
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The first argument, as shown by `man iptables` after the `-D` flag is the chain, not the rulenum.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: iptables [-t table] -D chain rulenum
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: is there anything that can be done to stop the paging comme up at radom times so i dont have to keep repeating what i type
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: pagesize 0
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: will that have a adverse effect on my game play
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Might make you have to scroll up for stuff
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: oh ok and thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: i always keep pageing turned off, i can scroll up/down with page up/down, I don't want it pausing my output
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i agree but how will i know when i need to page up or down please
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If there's information you missed or scrolled by too quickly..
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Badgrade Tech: ok cool thank you it worked i forgot the -t nat
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Badgrade Tech: but my iptables is so messed up any advice for how to get a nice good one
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: oh so i would know if i am missing info
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1381516
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: For instructions on resetting iptables
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Dimples: Since you're VI, you can disable paging altogether with scroll 0, and you'll get all the information read to you anyway.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's usually pretty obvious. It's only data that comes in a chunk that gets paginated anyways so like notes, item output, bigmap, etc
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods at Mr. Crowley.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Pagination is useful for visual readers, as we have to scroll back up to read what we missed.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: thanks you guys are awsome
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's highly suggested for VI players to just leave paging off (also i can't imagine that page bar sounds great through a screen reader) so that input is NEVER truncated
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: By the way, Dimples, did the trigger work for you?
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: oh yes sorry forgot to tell you it is great
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If not, I have a suspicion why.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh, good.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Just wanted to make sure. :)
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: np 
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Out of curiosity, how does a screen reader respond to a page up/down in screen contents? Does it start reading from the top again?
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Badgrade Tech: do you really need a firewall if you're not running a server or anything
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: usually comes with the modem. best thing is static ips
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If you're connected to the internet, always best to have a firewall.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: what is the plugin that show stats/gold/train/hp on a little windows? mine is gone .
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: probably one of bast's I'd assume
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: is it statmonitor?
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: You mean : aard_statmon_gmcp.xml ?
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: let me check.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Can give resetaard a try, might have to re-arrange windows after
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: I don't have aaard_statmon__gmcp.xml
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: it was just a window that display my stats and stuff.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: It's just called Aardwolf_Statmon in the plugin list
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: yeah ctrl+shift+p and enable statmon
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: tahts it!
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: I must have removed it somehow
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: but I load it back it and the windows is back. thanks!
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: a few pages show the layout before text/graphics now. in chrome at least
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: youtube does it
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Does what? I don't understand what you're saying
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Also, what's the context of this?
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: the page-to-be-rendered  - first it shows the outline of the layout. then it gets populated with text
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: maybe you have too fast internets to notice this
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: btw, Origin does exactly the same thing
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: on mobile hotspot boxes in use they ho from 2.5k and 5.0
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So how web pages work (origin is also just a rendered webview) is that it downloads the static HTML first, then it loads the css for initial display, then it loads the javascript for dynamics, and finally re-renders the CSS for the updated HTML from JS
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: sorry, not outline exactly. a greyish... hm. eh.. bad english:(
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You'll only notice that on very slow internet, or MASSIVE js loads
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: hm
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: i've never noticed this before
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: But...for future reference, it REALLY helps to start with context, and not just do what appears to be a random statement.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: if you open the console (ctrl_shift_j) and go to "Network" tab, you can see what's taking up the load time
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: Cheez, the way youtube opens now (for a few days) it's completely new
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It can also happen when a shitty developer decides to load massive images and such from JS in a synchronous fashion
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That's been like that for years
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: it never behaved that way. im my home, also at work
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's asynchronously loading the thumbnails
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The only change, AFAIK, is that the thumbnails are have been increased in resolution, therefore taking longer to populate into their "bucket" locations
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: let me see if i can catch an image to see if we are talking about the same thing
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: gimme a min
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The reason for that is that youtube is personalized to you, so they have to go check your viewing suggestions, etc, iterate over those and grab the thumbnails and descriptions, then display them
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You're talking about the "Outline" appearing. The top bar is therre with the search box, but the video thumbnail area is blank until a second or later when they all pop into view.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Correct?
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You'll be struggling for hours to capture a screenshot before the load completes. It's not worth your time
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: done. https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9vhOULDsX8FR1hvakx1VGRQV28
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Screenshotting has a delay, that in and of itself it almost longer than the async load process.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: this flashes for 0.5 seconds now before it gets populated with the text and icons
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So, that's exactly what I just described
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Notice how the titles and channel names are blank too? That's placeholder layouts to prevent jarring transitions. It then asks the youtube API "what should I show this guy", and it responds with channels. Then it iterates over those channels and asks "What from this channel should I show", it then iterates over each of those, grabbing video thumbnails and titltes (lengths and such too), then it "pops" those in place of the placeholders
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's essentially current day interlacing.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: yep. but i have never seen this before. here at home but also with completely different isp at work
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's done that for years, that's what I'm telling you
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: which is fast
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: ok
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it's not even an internet speed thing. It's based on browser processing
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And, it'll also happen less and less with consecutive loads as it begins to be able to pull from cache
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Also, side note, I'm interested in that "Epic Space Music" tab :P
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: there is about seven million hours of that kind of plugin-generated music in youtube. and another 30bil hours coming in next 10 years.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I'm training an AI right now to write Jazz music :P Now you make we want to switch it to "Space Music"
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: this space music seems more lucrative. some get 1 mil clicks even
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Youtube is dead for making money unless you're some creepy elsa-porn-rederer.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I ain't doing it for monetary gain, i'm doing it to learn :P
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: i tried to teach my own intelligence to make jazz music. 
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: not for money
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: i hope you'll do better"_
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Useless Celebrity )
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The only purpose if clicks is for money :P Clicks is a useless metric if no money is backing it
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Good starting point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA3YOFUCn4U
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Carykh is a decently small channel, but full of good content
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: band in the box generated solos also
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: back in 2010
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: or what I do, when i copy/paste between a text editor to a note is put a  for blank lines
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: pixelCNN got it pretty close:)
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: the mizs lines afe optional
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: @w
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: fml
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger calls it quits.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: word wrap.or.line spacing. start with word wrap
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: if i recall correctly
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: anyone have a lua function that removes color codes from strings
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: strin.sgub(str, "0-9a-ZA-Z]{1,3}", "")
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: strin.sgub(str, "@[0-9a-ZA-Z]{1,3}", "") rather
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Can't do that, Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Oh?
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there's one in aardwolf_colors.lua called strip_colours()
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Look at it, you'll remove @wAs, for instance.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, good catch
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But yeah, strip_colours() in aardwolf_colors would be what you want.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: k thx ill import that
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: this is a nice vid
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNl2q6YZXlA
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: i think...
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Not clicking on links you "think" is correct. That's how you get to weird tentancle stuff.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Don't you call my fetish weird
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: its just against the against-apple-abuse thing. gone right.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: eep. i said it wrong
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: minus the 1st "against"
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered for a bit
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Fiendish: What's the difference between putting something in OnPluginInstall() functions vs. outside the OnPluginInstall function? For instance, setting variables, I've always done it inside the function, but I've seen it done outside any function.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: very little, except you can call OnPluginInstall yourself later
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Thought so, though wasn't entirely sure.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the way plugin loading works, mushclient dumps the entire script block to the plugin's Lua environment, this necessarily executes anything not protected inside a function, then it immediately calls OnPluginInstalled
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: then when all plugins are installed it calls OnPluginListChanged for all of them
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oo... good to know!
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but as you can tell by the timing of the first two, if you never have an OnPluginInstalled and just put everything bare-ass on its own, it's basically the same, and vice versa
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mostly just use OnPluginInstalled as a kind of marker, like a comment saying "this is where the fun begins"
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: does anyone know of a clock with a timer that i can set using wifi?
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a what with a what
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ok, a wifi clock. with features including a timer that i can set remotely over my internets
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "ok google, set a timer for 5 minutes"
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well mainly as a bathroom clock. but a timer so the kids know the shower is not a 30 minute spa treatment
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Buy a water shutoff valve. :p
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Automatic water shutoff. :p
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ok, can you recommend a wifi valve?
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terminatus Tech: when I was a kid my dad would always kick me out of the shower after 15 min or so, I would always get so angry at him XD
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: then i can just get a regular clock to see what time it is
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: https://makezine.com/projects/wifi-water-valve/
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: There you go. :p I fully recommend making your own.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: To be honest, you'd probably be able to do something like that with a Raspberry Pi kit.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i would love to have a sort of audible alert, where the tone gets faster, but then instead of exploding it just shuts off
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But honestly, wifi countdown clocks are in the hundreds of dollars.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so maybe a rpi and an lcd would be the way to go
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That's what I'd do, anyway.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Though if you only do audible alerts, won't even need the LCD.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah i still want a clock though, the timer was just an add-on feature
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sounds like you want one of these https://www.homedepot.com/b/Plumbing-Water-Heaters-Tankless-Electric/N-5yc1vZc1ty    and one of these   https://www.amazon.com/Intermatic-FF5M-5-Minute-Spring-Brushed/dp/B000B8YKF2/
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: who uses office 365?
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: what plugin generator is good to use?
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Mushclient has a plugin generator built in
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: how does one access it?
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: sorry :p idk i just use it to mud :P
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: File-> Plugin Wizard
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: So my client sends a gmcp "gmcpchannels on" and I stop seeing channel chat on the main output but I don't see any gmcp side channel information containing the channel chat... what am I doing wrong? I should point out that if any gmcp is received it's dumped out, so I know I'm not missing it...
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: are your triggers handling it properly
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: This is *my* client... I can see the raw telnet data from aardwolf and it doesn't contain any channel chat information
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: sorry that went to answer
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I saw it... currently gmcpchannels is off
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: But I'll reiterate... I have a client... I wrote it. For debugging purposes everything that is received over the telnet link (normal and gmcp, even if it's not understood) is dumped to a seperate window.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: ooh you have to send a message for channel stuff through, i remember i. had that problem with blowtorch, let me look it up
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I can turn gmcpchannels on and the channel chats no long appear on the "normal" output, but I don't see any channel chat on the gmcp either
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i have to use this Send_GMCP_Packet('Core.Supports.Set [ "Comm 1" ]'
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Let me try...
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Testing...
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Bingo!
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you'll have to write your own sendgcmp function
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I have one thanks :)
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you have to send that each time the client logs on
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: none of those gmcp settings carry over from session to session
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Yep, done. Poor documentation on the wiki... I'm wondering whether I should now also set room, char and group too
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the wiki lists all the ones can toggle
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's not poor documentation on the Wiki. The wiki wasn't written with client creators in mind. :p
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Lol. Ok, ok...
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: just people writing plugins etc who need all that info
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Yep, understood now.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that was aimed at crowley, you're not wrong about the wiki being vague
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley smirks at Sheriff Shindo's saying.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Plugin writers typically don't need to know to Send_GMCP_Packet, because they already have that sent by the client they typically use.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: As a side note, the wiki can be edited by anyone, so feel free to create a "Client Creator's Corner" and add relevant information.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: except for those of us not using mushclient
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: MUShclient isn't the only client that is built to receive GMCP.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Most of the people here take their client as-is, and don't have the know-how to either develop their own client, or make their client do what they want. There's only a select few.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: Which code lines in Bast's Statmonitor do I have to delete to get rid of "03m:40s 34 mobs killed (176.29xp/mob 1636xp/min)" when it reports?
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: true that butvon blowtorch it's quite an adventure to work out how to do things to get gmcp workig
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Ergo, the wiki wouldn't contain that information because 1) again, it's a select few and 2) those select few don't take time to update the Wiki in case another select few come looking for the information.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I may well do that, if anyone thought it would be useful. My client is actually in two parts - the first is effectively a protocol convertor and pre-processor. The second part could be any language that supports http. I know that seems weird, but so many scripting languages have lots of built in features for web apps...
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Pero just proved my point, really.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Tordan: No idea, unfortunately.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I did? Oh dear.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: ok. thanks anyway.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yep. You proved my second point, actually. "I may well do that, if anyone thought it would be useful."
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Well, I don't know if anyone *would* find it useful. I'm relying on long standing players (or long sitting...) to tell me...
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I'm happy to help if it's actually a help
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Not so much if I'm wasting my time :)
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: There's no harm in editing the Wiki for content such as that.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: doesn't gmcp debug show the sent info? only the received messages?
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: (More than writing my own client, that is... I do that for "fun")
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Liber, you've missed the point.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Pero's not using MUShclient.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I'm not saying he should use mushclient. I'm saying he should use mushclient for snooping on the gmcp messages :)
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But that wasn't HER goal.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Nor her problem.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: She wouldn't have found out about Send_GMCP_Packet just by snooping MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: well, after snooping on the communication, she could: 1. implement her own code. 2. update the wiki. 3. profit (?) :D
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Again, you're missing it completely. :p
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Her code dumps all GMCP information. She turned gmcpchannels on, which should have dumped communication to her gmcp log. It didn't, because she needed to Send_GMCP_Packet.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: the part about sending a gmcp message is in the protocol, iirc
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Not that particular command. :p
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I'm not installing wine and mush just to snoop on comms. It's not that complicated - I just missed one key point which I've had help solving
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Again, *if* people thought it would be useful, I will clarify the wiki
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: the command is mushclient specific
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Else, I have a bit of a rewrite to do with this new information...
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You're in a completely different book, Liber. :p
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: hence my question about gmcp debug: if it also shows sent packets, you don't need to use the command, just to check what packages are sent to server
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: anyone can have a function with that name, i know blowtorch borrowed a lot of the function names from mushclient
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero considers tech off :)
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: We're done guys, I'm happy with what I've got, there's no point continuing this discussion :)
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: well, I'm actually curious about the answer to the question above: can you see the messages sent to the server?
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Thank you all for your help (Crowley, Libor, etc...)
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: debug wouldn't send the comm channel till you turned it on, which was the issue. not realising you have to explicitly turn it on
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Liber: No, you only see what's sent from the server.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Which messages? The messages I send the server from my client?
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: At least, if you just have gmcpdebug on.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: is there a way to trigger on 'where' command output reliably? Idk if there are tags or some regex 
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: The server echos back what I send to a channel...
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: See here:
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: comm.channel { "chan": "tech", "msg": "Tech: The server echos back what I send to a channel...", "player": "Pero" }
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: give me half of the bad beat when you get it
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: go play poker! just sign here!
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: wth i was supposed to be in goss
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: miss
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Rauru: Where always has the same header starts, so you can trigger on that reliably.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: so there's no easy way to "learn" from monitoring the communication between mush and aard
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: i meant 'where <mob>'
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Unless you mean 'where <mob>/<player>"
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: nod
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Crimzon's chat bot broke:P
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Liber, I don't know, I'm not using Mush
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: =)
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yeah, you beat me to it. You can set your own echos, so echo {where}, send "where <mob>", echo {/where}
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: well, it's actually doable. send_gmcp_packet is not a client command, but LUA. it's defined in "lua/gmcphelper.lua"
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: so you can modify it to output each use
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's Lua, not LUA.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dame Time Raded Tech: make he's yelling
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber THWAPS Mr. Crowley for being a moron.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dame Time Raded Tech: maybe
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dame Time Raded Tech: it's LUA Crowley, LUA!!!!!!
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Tell that to LHF.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: so, with gmcp debug on, and a small change to that file, you can see every gmcp packet sent to the server or received from the server
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: liber, that is true, but if you didn't send the correct to turn on comms gmcp you see nothing
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: Shindo: I'm not sending anything. this was in response to the lack of documentation conversation above. you can't learn anything not implemented in mush with the above solution, but being able to implement everything aard mushclient does is a hell lot more than what's on the wiki page
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: doesn't the wikiblis
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: doesn't the wiki list all the gmcp fields it can send and it's then up to us to abuse that
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: So Liber, you're saying that Mush and Aard worked together to implement stuff that isn't documented for other people to make use of?
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: My long term goal is to get a better client on my phone/tablet
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Hi. What's the point of this argument?
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: There is none :)
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: My point - I'm writing a client. I had an issue, someone helped me solve it. As part of that I questioned the documentation. I think Liber is maybe agreeing with me, but I don't know to what end
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I've offered to up wiki with what I know. If there's more undocumented features I'm not going to reverse engineering Mush...
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just download mush source, no need to rev eng
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero laughs. Reading source code is reverse engineering.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Unless you wrote the source code
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ah, I am not familiar with that high tech stuff
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: mapper database disk image is malformed.  Friend sent me their mapper db, the areas and rooms tables are managing to glitch my sql editor and don't display right.  They look empty but I guess they probably aren't.  Exits table is fine and a few other things.  Anything to be done about that or is it trashed?
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: apparently the involved computer suffered a power cut or similar and since that time the db has been messed up
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: maybe try copying the table data to a new one
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah, google showed me this: http://www.froebe.net/blog/2015/05/27/error-sqlite-database-is-malformed-solved/
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Can try doing a full dump, or table by table dump, but still going to have some loss probably
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: where's their backup? mush backs up often
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: The mapper database is backed up to folder: db_backups
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe starling is charging per hour, in which case shes draggin feet on purpose
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Should have 5 backups in there usually
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ok, thanks, everyone
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: how do i reset S&D screen?
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valdaloucha Tech: same question!
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: thanks a lot!
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valdaloucha Tech: omw, FINALLY!
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: updated Mapper Extender and S&D GUI today, if you previously downloaded them you should replace them with the new versions.  Should fix the issue of things not showing up if your mapper db is missing that area/room.
T3/r7/2018-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: fool me once shame on you, fool me twice..
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 0h
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: how to change the font on the input bar?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I want to update a page on the wiki - was told I could do this last night - however it doesn't want to let me create an account. Just says "Name/password not recognized". Any thoughts?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess your account need to be activated by page owner first
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: tech Well I've not got an account - that's kinda the problem
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I'll wait for later when some of the others are on
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: you need to contact an imm about that
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I believe Rumour is in charge of it, note her (or just imm) on personal board.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how do I translate the line numbers from a plugin crash to actual line numbers?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: sometimes you can go from the start of the CDATA block, there's some kind of math to figure it out
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I ended up just putting invalid code on line 1000 and let the plugin die and compared it to what line it reported
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: oh well
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Man of Valour Tech: best way to develop is put all your functions in to a .lua file and just require it from your XML file. when an error occurs, you can get the exact line
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why would 'break' correctly terminate a function in one if check, but fail to do so in the next even though both if checks are set up exactly the same?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Man of Valour Tech: not sure that I understand your question Starling?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: If you want to exit the function you should be using return, not break
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: does break only exit the current loop or similar, then?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: break in a for/while loop where there is nothing after the loop will effectively exit the function, use return if you want to skip all other code in the function
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: because if so, that would explain what's happening
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: okay, that's good to know, thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: but yes, break only exits loops, not functions
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: break ends the loop entirely... continue could go to the next loop but not sure Lua has continue, and return immediate exits the function
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it doesn't
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: doesn't have an actual ternary operator either
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: and another bug/crash is solved, thanks all
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: which is better?  if list[index] == nil    or if not list[index]   ?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ankier Tech: test
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Test success
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: how about    If nil == list[index]
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: avoid lhs error
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ankier Tech: I think it depends what you want your end result to be. :S
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: Do color codes ever serve a purpose in an aardwolf GMCP variable?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Do you mean "can you ever get them"? Because I've never seen a colour code in one of the keys
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: Using mudlet, upon entering "welcome to grandmarket..", "<Lua error:InvalidJSONInput: .... { "num": 32460, "name": "[1;33mWelcome to Grandmarket"
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: with rawcolors, the variable for room.info.name = "Welcome to Grandmarket Boulevard!"
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Oh, some json decoders don't like the escape character. The colours of meaningful in a lot of situations, particularly channel gmcp.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is it possible to run into thread safety / deadlock issues with mushclient and Lua ?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I had issues with that back when I used cmud, haven't had them on mush so far.  Can the issue come up and if so, how?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: What's the best way to make a suggestion on gmcp implementation on Aardwolf (server side)?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Post on ideas I guess.  But it's more or less a standard isn't it?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: No, something specific to how Aardwolf uses the standard...
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: GMCP is standardized, you'd be better off going above the implementation level
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And you mean aardwolf, NOT Mushclient right?  But yeah ideas probably...
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Mostly it's fine, but my client now splits out channels on to different tabs (with a few notable exceptions) so that the conversations don't get mixed up. However, I'd like to extend it further for the tell channel to split out individual tell conversations with individuals - I can't because when I reply the echo back from the server tell me I told, doesn't tell me who I told to. The suggestion is basically to add another field to tell me who I told
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Are you sure that's not in the GMCP message? I thought it was
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: comm.channel { "chan": "tell", "msg": "You tell Razor 'testing gmcp tells'", "player": "Abelinc" }
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That's just the MC implementation, it's there from the server side
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I don't want to parse it out of the msg field
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Why, it's a simple regex of "You tell (.*?) "
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: it has "player" at the end
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: player is me
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I'm assuming that's you
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: oh right
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: That's the SENDING player.  He wants the target.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I want "Razor" in the example above in a seperate field
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Anyone got the dl link for the updated sharptracker?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You could post in on ideas, but I'm guessing you're gonna get the response to just parse it out
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But yeah sounds like an idea board thing :)
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I know I *could* regex it out... but I don't know about corner cases - socials/emotes
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Can't social or emote through tells
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: no edge cases
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Oh. Problem solved then. Lol
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: help post
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Oops
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: speaking of updates, S&D 1.3.5 mapper extender, I think I finally have unknown location links working.  I also fixed that login problem with area indexing / scroll / etc.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dame Time Raded Tech: how do I make Adobe Acrobat Pro not be dumb and let me split a large PDF by file size into 40MB chunks. it's telling me 10MB is the max.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: how do I increase idle logout time?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Have a trigger that does a random command before you idle out
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: easy enough :)
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Who was it yesterday who suggested I update the Aardwolf wiki?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Crowley
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Ok. I can't edit pages on the wiki, so...
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: it wants me to create an account, but won't let me do so
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: bbl
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: read http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Main/AdminRequests
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: does the aard mapper use the a* pathfinding algorithm?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knimble Tech: how do i set my page to 0 please
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: pagesize 0
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knimble Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I have 7 Aardbags.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Mis.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Crowley! Since you're here...
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear Mr. Crowley has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ...
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Aard-wiki...
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Maybe. I don't know. Could you repeat the question?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: How exactly do I edit a page if I can't create an account?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Read 'help wiki' here. ;)
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Particularly at the bottom.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Now why didn't I think of that...
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Who you gonna call... help files!
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is there a way to track how many times a function in a plugin is called, or a trigger/alias fired?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You cheer Nocilis on and wish him good luck!
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling: you could just have a variable increment as part of the function's functionality :-)
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: for trigger you can do GetTriggerInfo(name, 21)
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as far as I know, there's not a usage "property" to triggers or functions...that'd be a fair bit of overhead if it were done systemwide...as an example, hit ctrl-alt-T to turn on tracing
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 21: Times matched (long)
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and then we get Endy proving me wrong (for Triggers and aliases, anyway)
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: world is ending
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: say your prayers, ninjas, we all going to die
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so for trigs in a plugin (when being called from outside the plugin), you can use getPluginTriggerInfo() & GetPluginAliasInfo()
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: starling you should install the "mchelp" plugin, its great
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just go to help -> index :P
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that fails for me, but good call
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: apparently it doesnt work on win10
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does, you just need to install Winhlp32, the same as you've had to do for the last 8 years of Windows OS
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: wrong i never have! :p
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: according to the help page it sends me to, it used to work on <= win8.1
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Abelinc: It doesn't work for Win10 anymore.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Which is ridiculous.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The fix that allowed it to work on win8 and I think early versions of Win10 stopped working a long time ago, anyway.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't work quite the same way, but it does work for W10
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I used to have that running in Win10. Then it stopped one day, and couldn't get it working again.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you didn't need a fix to allow it to work on win8, MS released it for win8
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Funny that they brought it back in win 8 after removing it for win7
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and Endy: if you never have, then you have never used a Windows OS from the last 8 years :P
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: where does mushclient look for sounds
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: nvm
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: anyone know a good site to download little sounds for mushclient?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tordan: 2 easy options...(1) winklewinkle's sound pack, and (2) current MUSHclient ships with a sound pack
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: where are the little sound files locatesd from the mushclient?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if I were a betting man, I'd guess the "Sounds" folder...
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: ^
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: That's the one
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: plugins
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: why the fk do you have to be so smarkt, Abelinc?! :)
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: upbringing
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Please watch language.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Censoring letters is still cursing. :P
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: I see.  *nod*
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: hi all. Just got a new computer. Where do you go to get the mush soundpack for aard? I celebrate, because I am done playing muds on the mac! I can go back to using mush!
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger fiendish, go to his site...
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "sphelp" for info on the soundpack that ships with MUSHclient
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: ok. so is that something you download in the same directory as aardmush, or does it come with aardmush? I didn't think a dependent version would come as a .exe.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it comes with aardmush
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: how do you keep yor mother hen computer from preventing you from running this thing? I turned smart screen filter down, and it still does it.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try right-clicking mushclient.exe, go to properties, unblock
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: upgrade to xp.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: doesn't seem to have an unlock option. read only, hidden and advanced. Advanced has only that the file is ready for archiving, and allow this file to show contents other than properties.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you use the zip option, or the exe installer?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: exe. And I got it. I hit more info. NVDA did not read me the tupid info, but it had a don't run or run anyway. LOL.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: and I shall be back!
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, didn't realize you wre using NVDA. did you download the vi-specific version?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: is it possible to copy direction plugin from one mush client into the aard one? it doesn't appear to even have it to add. if so where should I put it?  I find it annoying to move without it.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't know what the direction plugin is, but sure, you can copy plugins from one MUSHclient folder to another
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: ok cool. it's the plugin that enables you to move with a keystroke lol. I'm a spoiled brat on muds
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: put it in the muschlient root/worlds/plugins folder
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless the plugin author has specific instructions, you should put it into the MUSHclient\worlds\plugins directory
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: I just use keypad in mushclient to move and kill
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: moving with a keystroke? MUSHclient ships with the ability to move using the keypad
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe it uses other keystrokes instead of the keypad macros
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: sweet one
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: done
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: weren't there supposed to be channel sounds on this thing?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "sphelp"
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: I have heard none yet
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: try turning on numlock.  that might enable the native directions on the number pad.
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: idk how I ever levelled or moved without keypad before
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: How can I set a label/goto in a mushclient script (send to script)?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: label/goto?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what's the syntax to set a label?
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm not even sure what you mean by label
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: oh, right, umm.  set a goto so i can skip a part of the script
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: of course i have to tell it where to go (i.e. label)
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: goto isn't a thing...
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: guhhh
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: that's somewhat inconvenient.  alright thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nor should it be...you're not talking about line numbers, just call what you're trying to use
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: almost no language has used goto in 20 years
T3/r7/2018-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: That's not surprising.  But I also haven't studied any programming for a long time.
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: trachx do you know about dollarC?
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: miss
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: at what point is it better for a plugin to use an external .lua file for its code as opposed to all of the code being contained in the plugin XML?
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually you use multiple files just for better code organization
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you use the code across multiple plugins
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean for a single plugin there is no reason to split it into several parts
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: unless you want to re-use code or your text editor is too slow with too big file :P
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: starling i use .lua extensions because the editor i use doesn't like indenting lua in xml files
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyone familiar with VLANs ?
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eiru Tech: so yesterday I went to Fiendish's profile, thought I was getting the aard soundpack, and I think I only go the aardmush itself. Is there a place I can get thesounds to go into the client now that I have it?
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the sounds are part of the aardmush distribution
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eiru Tech: then why did they not download with aardmush non-visual?
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodGod Byrnatha Tech: oh. are they? hm.
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they did...type "sphelp"
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: the sound pack starts muted
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eiru Tech: greatly confused lol
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eiru Tech: whaa?
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have to configure it...the sounds and the triggers are there, but you have to tell it what you want out of it
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eiru Tech: how do I unmute the whole thing?
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: spmute
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodGod Byrnatha Tech: oh it does, yeah type spmute.
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't unmute the whole thing...actually read the help
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eiru Tech: thanks guys! sweet I had it all along.
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eiru Tech: it works
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodGod Byrnatha Tech: if he's VI though, unmuting the whole thing might be best. *shrug*
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just bombarding yourself with sounds that you have no clue what they're for isn't a good way to start, vi or not
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eiru Tech: that's what spmute does right? the whole thing?
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read the help.
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodGod Byrnatha Tech: yes, spmute mutes/unmutes the wholething.
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it doesn't change what may currently be toggled on/off
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eiru Tech: ah. No I know some of the sounds, channels are similar to the ones back in the winklewinkle soundpack
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Anyone interested in sound, the BBC has over 16,000 sounds in WAV format. They are copyrighted, but the license states you can use them for personal use.
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: http://bbcsfx.acropolis.org.uk/ <-- go there if you want to check out their library of sounds.
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: will my wav preferences end up with cambridge analytica
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only if you tell them who you are
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: cambridge analytica is a spinoff from abelinc inc
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Loves sound...
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: And CA know who you are
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Even if you don't tell them
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I work for CA, so I know your dark secrets, Rauru.
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, they only know what you tell them...but HOW you tell them is the trick
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: many thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero bans anyone not from the UK from accessing the BBC resources
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero 's license money paid for those 16,000 sounds...
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: My VPN is set for the UK.
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc uses proxies that look are from the UK
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: "Man screaming twice." - that sounds good for my global quest alert.
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers with Rauru about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Or is it a torture coverup? "Honest, officer, it was just my sound effect machine. The neighbor only heard that!"
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero records "woman screaming twice" for her general log in alert
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: VPN won't protect you from CA
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, but it prevents what you just pretended to do
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it WILL protect you from certain information going to CA
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero doubts it ;)
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I also use Cloudflare's DNS. Hmm.
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you don't know how information analytics work
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Was that directed at me? I'm happy in my ignorance. If you approach the internet as completely open and public you can't go wrong...
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Don't expect to get much love on this channel for being happy to be ignorant
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I'm not making any assumptions about my privacy...
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was directed at you...the information has to actually have a source, there's nothing magical about it...they only have the information that you allow them to have
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero laughs. Really? You think that there is someone in the world who isn't happy to be ignorant about at least one topic?
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You're better off approaching your computer as being open and public, not just the internet. :p
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero passes a pig breading pamphlet to Matria
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although ignorance on the part of users effectively allows them to have much more information
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Pero, that's not even close to what I said.
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I don't doubt it
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Matria, then you misunderstood me
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley starts calling Pero "Paro". :p
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero isn't a robotic seal
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's a but!
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Metria isn't a Matria. :p
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Ahh, sorry - I totally missed that. I'm not wearing my glasses
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: My apologies for mistyping your name Metria. No offence meant!
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero loves you all. :)
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: aw, shucks *blush
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: matria
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: is that a female abelinc
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it used to be! }:>
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's not the first report that the VI install came with sounds muted
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure that pwar wanted them to not be muted for the non-visual install
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well fix it, dear henry!
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: when i type something i have to listen to my screen reader give me all my stats can i remove it so all i get is the text of the game and what mobs says tome
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Sounds like your prompt, which you can turn off.
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If you type 'prompt', you will turn it off.
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: that is better
T3/r7/2018-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: ok my kids jacked something serious up on my mushclient, any idea how to fix something.  right now my o button is sending the @ symbol, and when i log in im getting spammed char info or something like that
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is there a way to reliably record the last direction you moved?
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valdaloucha Tech: hey, anyone know where I can get a nice repop plugin?
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What would this plugin do?
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebornatus Tech: what is a repop plugin?
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: a sense life teller ma thingy
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: http://mikeride.chaosnet.org/abelinc/scripts/
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valdaloucha Tech: just a plugin that reports the time until the area you're in repops
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valdaloucha Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: dunno if they work though
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valdaloucha Tech: I use one or two of them.
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valdaloucha Tech: but their repop checker requires sense life.
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: are there any plugin options available that can keep track of inventory pots? Specifically, alert me once I get below a specific threshold? Or would I have to use some kind of trigger counter that adds a counter and manually reset?
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i'm using one called PotionQuaffer
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skeelo Tech: thanks for the suggestion I will look into that.
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i think it's one of the bast plugins
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: What wouldn an alias need to send to, to fire an alias in a plugin?....in this case, mapper
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: I have an alias that runs to my potions shop of choice via the mapper
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: just execute it, thats what i do
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valdaloucha Tech: I've been wondering that, too
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: instead of sending to the mud I set it to "execute" and it does a mapper goto xyz roomnum
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Caps in mapper command ftw, lol
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sounds like you didn't have the "^" at the start of it
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: whats a good way to make a website free if possible
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wix is fine for most things
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: ok thank you abelinc
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I use github for static sites
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is is possible to add mark to mapper portals "do not use during GQ" ?
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no and there won't be
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, but you CAN make an alias which will add/remove non-golden CPs from your mapper on demand
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: correct
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: or level lock them
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: those are workarounds though
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: they are solutions
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: level lock won't really help, unless you mean an alias to change the level lock on demand for in-gq, not-in-gq
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: to a hyperspecific use scenario that has little to do with mapping
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: yes, toggle the level lock to +- 292
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Abelinc: I assume rauru meant the same as you just with changing the level instead of dropping
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: level lock is most elegant solution I think, thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, that's a good solution
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, just to be clear... I don't want to add a feature that removes yet another active decision from the player. If a player wants to make a command that switches between using gold and plain portals so that they don't have to type a thousand things, that's fine. But I don't want to build that into a trigger that decides for you which ones to use when. And if I'm not building it into a trigger, then the functional difference is nil between you making your own alias that toggles levels or drops and re-adds and you setting your own toggles in the plugin. And if the functional difference is nil, I'd rather not do extra work to move sideways.
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hopefully that all makes sense
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dame Time Raded Tech: tldr version: reroll your non-gold chaos portals.
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that explanation is quite fine
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: May take 30 minutes to read it, but it's quite fine indeed.
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knimble Tech: i was in a gquest but it timed out but now i cant see no messages when thy come in 
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero the ignorant is here ;-)
T3/r7/2018-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Run!:P
T3/r7/2018-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: explored
T3/r7/2018-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: oops
T3/r7/2018-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahony Tech: anybody using masaki BluMalice potmon plugin?
T3/r7/2018-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: how does the mapper work
T3/r7/2018-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: with winkle winkle
T3/r7/2018-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: can i edit the whole thing
T3/r7/2018-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danicron Tech: anyone know a good plugin for a inv miniwindow?
T3/r7/2018-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: what are the main languages of coding on this mud?
T3/r7/2018-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blueberry Tech: lua
T3/r7/2018-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: does anyone use bootcamp and windows?
T3/r7/2018-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: (+ + +) -> 16
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: in mushclient what file contains the mapper info, portals, etc?
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: aardwolf.db it's an sqlite db
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: that's what I thought
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: so if I started messing around with the world files...... inside of the .mcl file is there a link to the db file?
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: they are both associated by World name if im not mistaken
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so Aardwolf.mcl and Aardwolf.db are for world Aardwolf
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the database is used by plugins afterall, its not associated with the world file in any way
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: trying to figure out, how me cleaning up some backup files and shifting files that were in the wrong place, such as plugin files that weren't put in the worlds/plugins folder but never touching aardwolf.db.. but now I've got an empty mapper and Inever messed with the aardwolf.db file
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: is your Aardwolf.db in the mushclient root dir? the same dir as /worlds ?
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: root
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ok but what size? if its small then likely created when missing
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mine is like 13MB, but size varies
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: in that same root dir, check out /db_backups
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that should have database backups
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: double-check game -> configure -> MUD Name/IP address...make sure the world's name is still Aardwolf
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if theres a recent one of good size, then close out Mush, paste it over Aardwolf.db, then re-open Mush
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: alright gimme sec
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: thanks abelinc, I made a change to the world added -name at the end... didn't realize that was waht associated with the  DB file
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hey i said that it was associated by name
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: off
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: nod endy you did too, but I guess I wasn't following what you meant by that
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Hmm....Guessing if I want to work with gmcp scripts, I need to make a plugin and edit that?
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: work with in what way?
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Well like write a quest/level tracker....iirc you can only use OnPluginBroadcast in a plugin
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: that sounds accurate (though I'm not completely sure)
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: would make sense
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divic Tech: Anyone else use Blowtorch for Android?
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: anyone set the mapper up for aard on mudlet?
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebornatus Tech: sure does
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: Is it quite easy because of all the info available in GMCP?
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here. get em while they're hot
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: do you have a coding background? like as a career? or just a hobby?
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when I work, I write code as work
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: it's a great program so thanks for taking the time
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm glad you enjoy it
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divic Tech: I have a Blowtorch question if anyone has experience with it
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can try
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: but I have to charge
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: I'm primarily impressed by the fact that it is more or less the de facto aardworlf connection utility for most players
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: fiendish do you actually change mush source code or just pack plugins with it?
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Endymion: yes once in a while, but most changes come from Nick
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divic Tech: use an android tab when not home and the client has crashed several times on me despite delete/reinstall. Also loses custom settings, buttons, aliases, etc. Really frustrating
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish comforts Divic.
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divic Tech: The family all use Mush at home on the comps and its really nice so kudos to the developers
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Endymion: usually what I do if I find a bug in mushclient is send as much info as I can over to Nick about it and see what he says. Sometimes I fix it myself if I'm feeling like it
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: he would need to incorporate your fixes tho right? wouldnt that end up being a nightmare in the future?
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but actually fixing the mushclient code is bit of a hassle for me, because I don't want to keep a persistent windows machine around, so every time I want to test a change I have to kick it over to appveyor
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no, if I make a change to mushclient I always send it to him on github
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ah gotcha
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or in a forum comment
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sometimes
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess you can see here anything that was taken directly from github pull requests: https://github.com/nickgammon/mushclient/commits?author=fiendish
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but mostly that's me dicking around in appveyor trying to get his automated builds working
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a bunch of the commits are dummy changes just to initiate the build trigger
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: it still doesn't include a bot :(
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: next version of mushclient is going to randomize all the colors on your screen every time you use the fap social
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: uhm
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: it already does that
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: besides, I am mostly on a VT100 terminal
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: so there isnt much to change
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: Well at least there is some chance that it will choose the right color this way
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tchalla Tech: is there a way to check if a spell is disabled mudside?
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try it
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when it's disabled mudside, it gives a message saying that it's disabled
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tchalla Tech: why does berserk/frenzy not work like that?
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: berserk is disabled?
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because neither of those are disabled, they just have conflicts
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: oh ok nvm
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tchalla Tech: what is the difference between a spell being disabled vs a conflict?
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a spell being disabled cannot be used by anyone, regardless of anything affecting them
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: disabled means the spell is effectively taken out of the game
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the way that the game tells you that a spell/skill you're trying to use is being blocked by another spell (or even the same spell) on you already is in the "sfail" message from spelltags...when the third number is a 2, that means that something on you is considered to be enough of the same thing as the spell you're trying to use...if the third number is 3, it means you've got a recovery on you blocking it (some spells share the same recovery as each other)...
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whereas if the number is 11, that means that the spell has been disabled from the game
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help spelltags for details
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: abelinc is here
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc is not
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tchalla Tech: thanks Abelinc
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: anyone using MUDRammer for iOS 
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: not at the moment, but yeah
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: do you face the problem where sometimes when you go from landscape to portrait mode and back, you can input any commands. but can still see mud activity on screen 
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: can?t input
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't use mudrammer (I use iSSH when on iDevices), but if you're having an issue like that with it, you can always lock your screen orientation when using mudrammer...
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quick way to lock orientation is to drag up from the bottom of the screen (like how you get to the flashlight and stuff)...orientation lock is the top-right option (at least on the old iOS I'm running)
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: lock orientation will lock at portrait mode. not so useful for MUDRammer 
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it'll lock in *current* mode
T3/r7/2018-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: hmm... I followed what you side. but it switch to portrait mode on me. let me see if there is another lock 
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: any good ways to 'benchmark' plugin speed performance?
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blueberry Tech: so what was that plugin that makes colours blend?
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Hmm, I wonder if there's a way to integrate the fade option into comm log.
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: What is the regex for doing a positive lookbehind of the previous line (multi-line)?
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: https://www.regular-expressions.info/lookaround.html
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: yeah i cant figure it out with the multi line
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: IMO, if you're going to do that i'd join the lines together instead of trying to parse across multiple
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Join them together with a known symbol, such as ^, that you can substitute out for \n when you want to turn it back into 2 lines.
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Can't you just use the multiline flag to treat newline as a normal char?
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: But here's a SO article that seems to do what you're trying: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41560840/regex-with-positive-lookahead-across-multiple-lines
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Unless as Cheez implies you're running the regex on an array of lines...
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Regex itself doesn't have a way to specify multiline, that's per implementation. I just gave a universal answer :P
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: For example in perl is /foobar/s to treat it as all one line, whereas in JS it's /foobar/m
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: True. I don't use any language that doesn't have multiline ;)
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And even then in JS, it'll only match \r or \n, but NOT \r\n
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Ugh. Windows newlines. You do know that windows new lines is \r\n solely because of the way typewriters worked (and the order because of the way very old printers worked)?
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinker Tech: how do i turn page off please
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: nopage
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: pagesize 0?
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: help pagesize
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinker Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: project orion.  quite possibly the most metal spacecraft ever designed.
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: although arguably less hazardous than the the classic foof-rocket.
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asinine Tech: is there a way to save diffrent profiles in mush client for diffrent toons?
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i am about 98percent certain the answer is yes.  on the other hand, i dont use mush, so i cant actually contribute much to this discussion.
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: possible that's a new feature, but easy enough to just copy and put in different folders..  Just copy the entire folder when Mush is closed
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I think the newest only allows saving layouts, for different computers. If you concern is something like portals in mapper there are no profiles for those...
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asinine Tech: yeah I don't wont to redo all the protals ever time
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mannec seems to be puzzled about something.
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: if true, that would be an astonishing thing.  sort of like discovering a car that has all the luxury features, except for an accelerator pedal...
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: is there any way to use QOS to prioritize mud traffic? i have dd-wrt but i know nothing about the mud traffic or how i can prioritize it.
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ping goes to crap when others are downloading
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: https://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Quality_of_Service
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: thanks but im trying to figure out how to prioritize mud traffic over download/streaming so a general help file doesnt do much for me
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hmm unless i can prioritize the port...
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: i guess you need to prioritze connections to ports 23/4000/4010
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah that might just do the trick, thank you
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: damn fiendish and his upgrade checker. cant remove it and have to deal with killing mush in task manager when it fails
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: same for phones
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: screen shadow
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: WHY? Removed plugin Aardwolf_Package_Update_Checker (162bba4a5ecef2bb32b5652f) Plugin 'aard_package_update_checker' not installed. Attempting to install it...Success!
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: cant find any traces of those messages in any plugin files. so how do i stop this?
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh right, i have to gut the plugin i guess
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Plugin 'aard_package_update_checker' not installed. Please download and install it.It is required for the correct operation of the GMCP_handler plugin
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hows that now?
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: i guess you can remove a line in .../mushclient/lua/aard_requirements.lua
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh jeez i was only searching plugins folder. derp
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: kinda frustrating to be honest, i click ignore and it doesnt ignore. i remove and it comes back.
T3/r7/2018-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i mean, if it WORKED then sure force it down my throat. but it doesnt always work so give me a break already
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh boy. what an excellent bug report from endymion. I will get on it right away
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: hey fiendish quick question I feel like I should know already -is there a way to gag mob says and so on from the chat log window?
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mobsay is a channel
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: if so how bc I can't figure it for the life of me
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: excellent
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's in the list
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: at least it should be
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: it is I just missed it
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: I knew it was stupid easy
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I assume it's on its own channel because maybe someone would want to only listen to mobs 
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: or in mycase, I run to areas w mobprogs and dont care what they say but it interferes w the chatlog I have
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sure, I guess there's that
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jilted :P
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: maybe if when I ever do goals and so on again I could put it in its own tab
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Alright, I'm off. Someone remind Endymion that "it fails" isn't a useful description of events.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: So is it possible to encrypt the login process to the mud? I just notice it goes clear text since it uses telnet protocol I guess?
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: back for a sec. Daak, nope.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Ok, so no open wifi for me ;p
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well you could vpn to a private server and connect from there
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Ah good plan, ssh tunel too
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Good call, thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but the connection between there and aardwolf will just be telnet, so Kim Jong Un could still sac all your tp tokens
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Yep!
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunkle Fetard Tech: It's easy enough to set up with a < $5 a month VPS.. simple PPTP vpn connection - I wouldn't worry too much about bandwith usage if you're just running it to connect to aard
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think I pay something like $6/year for a vps at wootvps
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: gone now
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: is there a command to see the names of my other chars i have created
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Do Rumour and Guiness ever log in? I requested wiki access per the help file and they've not responded.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: They do log in all the time. Hmm.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Maybe they don't want to give me access... :)
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Check the note itself under 'note list' or 'note subj <subj>'. If it's a different color, they've  flagged it, and might have given you access.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can also try forwarding the note to Imm just in case.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: What do you mean different colour? Different to what?
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I see yellow author, green subject, red length
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The note number is usually white. When an Imm flags it, it either turns green or cyan.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: But I was assuming if they'd given me access they'd have sent me an email...
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Ahh, note id is white
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: They may have forgotten to drop you a note.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can check, at any rate.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But yeah, forward to Imm if you haven't received a response yet. Or just write them a note for an update.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Forwarded to Imm
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Another question on aard dev, what is the process on the "ideas" - is there some indeterminate time for someone to review the post and make a decision? Or is there some sort of published review cycle?
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Neither.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Black hole? :D
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's when Lasher has a chance to get around to reading it, and then deciding if it's something worthwhile to implement.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Is Lasher the only dev for aard server?
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Lasher's usually behind on notes. He's probably 3 weeks behind on ideas alone. :p
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero would like to offer her help in any way she can, even if it's cataloging ideas etc.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That's also probably why ideas notes don't have the standard 30 date expiry as other boards do... haha.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Ugh, this medication's messing with me, constantly making typos and stuff.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero writes a sympathise social just so she can do so
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Thanks for the info Crowley. I'll keep watching the boards for the next 3 weeks or so. :D
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: An example of what it would look like: board typos;note list 30
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: Is there a way to change the font size for mushclient?
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: alt 5
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: can i reposition my input panel
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: reposition where
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: relocate like the other windows, not anchored to the bottom
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Man of Valour Tech: Hey Fiendish. Not much of a mushclient but do you know the valid Core.Supports.Set options for GMCP? is there a option for rawcolor?
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: To wisconsin
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Graycor: no, not really
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: that makes me a sad panda
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Valour: you're trying to enable gmcp rawcolors?
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: There's no rawcolor setting in gmcp but you can change your aardwolf settings to send rawcolor
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: help rawcolor
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish comforts Pero.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's wrong, pero
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Really?
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: protocols gmcp shows a rawcolor setting
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Man of Valour Tech: Thats correct Fiendish. server is sending ANSI sequence as default. I wonder if its possible to set that at handshake
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Dammit, I've been sending rawcolor on log in instead of gmcp...
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Tell me, tell me!
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Valour: yes, it's not done as part of supports
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: in connecting preferences, for aardwolf, is it mush/moo or diku or do i have to do something special?
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Man of Valour Tech: ohh then I should request it as a command or telopts?
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Pero: Just type 'protocols gmcp rawcolors' to toggle it.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Graycor: diku
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: ty luv u
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Valour: one sec.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I have to check
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I just rewrote a major bit of my client today. I'm not in the mode to adjust it for color now... But thanks for the tip
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Valour: send "rawcolor on" over gmcp
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Man of Valour Tech: ohh. Okay Thanks Fiendish
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Fiendish: Any chance you can incorporate the new "fading text" option into the comm log? It'd be nice to have older text fade out.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Umm... wait, what's the difference between that and sending rawcolor over the normal channel?
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Pero: silence
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero shrugs
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Pero: maybe I misunderstood the question?
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Pero: difference between what and what?
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Crowley: hmm..I don't know why you'd want that, since you can just let it scroll off the top
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: personally I think the fade is silly
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Friendish, difference between sending rawcolor on over gmcp, and sending rawcolor just as a standard command?
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: If there's no differnce I'll leave as is
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I suppose that's true. I was experimenting with it. I'm not sure, but I think it wound up slowing down my client, though. Have to check, but eh.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Pero: sorry, my earlier answer was wrong. they control different things
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: But actually I don't need to do either because my client decodes vt100 codes anyway. I was going to upgrade to decode xterm codes too. Just haven't got around to it
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Pero: type rawcolors and notice that your channels still come through in color
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Ok, difference is...?
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (in mushclient anyway)
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I think part of what I wanted it for on comm log is I don't have many channels open, and I have tabs. So when something new comes up, I wanted to instantly see what part has been said in the last 30 minutes, essentially.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: gmcp rawcolor is controlled separately from non-gmcp rawcolor. to toggle non-gmcp rawcolor, you can type rawcolors. to toggle gmcp rawcolors, you can type protocol gmcp rawcolor. to toggle gmcp rawcolors _silently_ you can send "rawcolors on" over gmcp
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the bottom part, lol
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Ahhhhhh, I see...
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess I understand what you're getting at
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Since my client doesn't *actually* care that explains why I've not noticed the difference
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: your client doesn't show color?
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Pff. Course it does!
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: your client doesn't use gmcp?
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: My client is two parts - a protocol convertor and a real client. The protocol convertor converts telnet and gmcp to http json. The client then has to do much less work and can be written in Electron (Chrome, http, css, javascript)
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so you're using ansi escape codes for colors everywhere
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: My next project is to connect an android app to the protocol convertor
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: No, the protocol convertor changes vt100 or rawcolor to html classes
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, but which do you treat as color
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can't just convert raw colors to html color if you're not in raw color mode
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: otherwise you're colorizing text that isn't supposed to be colorized
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I'm sorry, I'm not sure I follow... If I'm not in rawcolor mode then I get vt100 escape codes from the aard server. If I am in rawcolor mode I get the colors.  The proxy protocol convertor doesn't care which it sees... it changes the codes into span encapsulated text using classes to determine the color of the text within...
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: The funny thing is, I could easily change the "yellow" class to show text in red. lol
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Probably not so easy to explain when I have a little to drink. Friday night and I have a conference to run on Monday, so I'm trying to distract myself by drinking... lol
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I'd be happy to chuck my code onto github or something if you want to look
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Ultimately I will be making it open source
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I think having a protocol convertor could encourage people to write their own clients. The whole telnet/gmcp etc. stuff is quite a lot to take in...
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: ... And the protocol convertor can itself have addins that function as trigger code, a la mush
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Sorry, did I bore you to death?
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no, I went to reboot
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm catching up now
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it should care what it sees
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because @Rthis @Ytext should @Mall be @Bthe same color
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: It is...
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so then it does care
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: It knows it's getting vt100 because it had vt100 encoded green "Fiendish Tech", then blue text after..
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: It guesses...
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: You could confuse it, I guess...
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I've not seen it get it wrong yet...
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what if the line doesn't start with an escape?
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: ... yet!
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it would fail on uncolored text with rawcolor codes in it
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: what if the line starts with a capital letter
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what if it starts with a capitol 
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Well, it doesn't do it per line - that's kinda the point...
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Aardwolf sends almost every message in its own packet
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: But anyway, my implementation might be a little broken right now, it's easily fixed
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I've just not seen it actually *break* yet...
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there probably aren't nearly as many uncolored lines as there once were
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I started writing this client shortly after starting aard; that was about 90 hours ago (play-time). That's not long to write a mush competitor ;)
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you're not competition
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: You're right there.
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no, I mean, I'd be happy if someone else made something actually better
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Yes... and I mean that since mush on linux requires wine, it's also not a competitor. :D
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wine is pretty awesome though, so I'm not worried about that
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinker Tech: i wish the mush client was on mac
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it can be if you install wine
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinker Tech: i would not have a clue on how to do that
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: start by installing homebrew
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: then brew install wine
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinker Tech: is it that simple
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: pretty much
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: is it a chateau petrus?
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: are you familiar with homebrew?
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinker Tech: and is it the same as using mush on windows
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: of a chateau-neuf du pape
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Thinker: it's roughly the same as using mush on linux, which is basically the same as using it on windows
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinker Tech: no i have heard of it
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok so go to https://brew.sh/ and just copy-paste their sketchy command into your Terminal.app
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinker Tech: when i have my mac on then i will give it a go so i go to the terminal and type what again
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the command they show will install homebrew, and then after that you just type "brew install wine"
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinker Tech: ok i will give it a go
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: then you should be able to run the mushclient installer and use mushclient on your mac
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh actually, you know what...
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I forgot, I think wine-hq also makes mac packages now
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/macosx/download.html
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that might be better
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinker Tech: thanks i have sent it to my icloud account
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why would aard mapper crash when going into gathering horde?
T3/r7/2018-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: oh, derp.  I created a fake room and forgot to set its area id :P
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how do you negate a symbol in string.gmatch?
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: I would just use not
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: oh, I remember the complement of %x would be %X
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: %S a set of non-space characters
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: has anyone here used instagram's api
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: resolved it
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: is there some way to get MUSHclient score box or some other box to display current affects
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can write a plugin for it.
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: cool ok, what language would that be, LUA?
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Lua, yes. Not LUA. :P
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: i'll just look on the website so i'm not being a prick
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: haha ok thanks, Lua :)
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I can't figure out this S&D crash on room cp's.  After three days of trying to figure it out, I'm stumped.  Feel free to tell me what I'm doing wrong.  I'm stuck.
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: would help if you posted the error
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling Run-time error
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling Plugin: WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_135 (called from world: Aardwolf)
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling Function/Sub: cp_check_end called by trigger
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling Reason: processing trigger "trg_cp_check_end" when matching line: "Note: One or more target names in this campaign might be slightly scrambled."
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling [string "Plugin: WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_135"]:763: attempt to index a nil value
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling stack traceback:
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling        [string "Plugin: WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_135"]:763: in function 'build_room_cp_target'
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling        [string "Plugin: WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_135"]:720: in function 'build_cp_target_list'
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling         [string "Plugin: WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_135"]:698: in function <[string "Plugin: WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_135"]:696>
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that is the error
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: the fuck starling
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Devide by zero
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I've been stuck on this since thursday night
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: pastebin also works
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Press play on tape
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: alright, go easy on her, she's been stuck on this for a while and it's frustrating
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: whatever, anyway, I'm stuck and have been stuck for 3 days and there's evidently nothing I can do with it. *shrug*  Good luck.
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Do you know which value it is sees as nil?
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: not a clue
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: depending on how you use it, you might also need to return something in the function
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: You might try adding a CR to the plugin file, in the function with the error, and see if that alters the line it is reporting the error on.
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: absolutely hate room cp's.  the spawn of the devil.
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gilduran rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So it looks like the error line is 763. Have you looked to see what's there that could need indexing?
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: That's usually tough, because the line the client reports, doesn't usually match up with the line in the plugin file.
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Nah, just put an actual error to fire on the first line and then use that line as your first indicator, not a CR.
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes it does, Gilduran. You just don't understand how it reports the lines.
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the line offset is 241
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: That should help then
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So whatever line your intentional error is on, add 522 and look at that line.
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: same here
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: mis
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: is there a way in MUSHclient to keep a notepad window on top
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ok
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: i found the problem
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: time to die, stupid bug
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: usually about twice the length of a normal letter key
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: To those who don't understand Jilted's comment, Pleiaded had asked, "how long is a shift"
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Pleaides, too.
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: bah mischan bc of colors
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Whose fault is that?
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: and I answered "depends on how tall she is"
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: booze
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling cackles with glee as Jilted blushes.  Guess his mind was on something more important than the right channel.
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: no habla
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Warsnail Anaristos pats Super Star Pleiades on his head.
T3/r7/2018-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: well I'm officially wasted so godnight
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered for a few minutes
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Why isn't it called solidclient?
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because that would be disingenuous
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: MUSH for Go Go
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alainna Tech: he replied quickly
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm curious if anyone besides wars has made their own color theme yet
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: pretty cool i think
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I've been trying to find the colors I want for a theme, but I'm working on it.
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I welcome any input on whether the list of available color names/uses is sufficient
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: anyone ever run into a problem with the aard mushclient where there's no output coming through to the main window, but stuff is definitely still happening?
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Itty Kitty Purr Tech: are you scrolled up?
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Usually because you have a rogue trigger that's gagging everything because it never received a line to ungag.
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: sometimes my main window goes total blank for few seconds.
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: the error happens after the whole "indexing area levels" bit
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: and yeah, it's definitely some gagging error, like i can see these chats in the chat window but they don't show up in the main one
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That's Winkle S&D, try uninstalling it and seeing if it's the same.
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: Mikejs Thats a feature of the log
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: right click -> echo in main window
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: hmm ok disabled all the winkle plugins, still getting gagged on login somehow
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: ok figured it out, it was the "prompt fixer" plugin causing issues
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: i think my client is a bit outdated though.  might just download the newest version later
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knimble Tech: hi can any blind player that uses a mac please help me to put wine on my mac
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knimble Tech: any blind players on
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: That is probably a no. What are you looking for?
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Asking the blind "what are they looking for?" Shame on you.
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knimble Tech: hi Crowley
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Yikes! I'd not considered that. Silly me...
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Hi! :P
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I meant of course "are you asking for any particular reason"
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knimble Tech: if you have time could you help me install wine on my mac
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Knimble needs help installing WINE on Mac, but is blind.
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I have no idea on that, I'm sorry. :(
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knimble Tech: i sure am
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But I'm sure there are others here who, while not blind, can walk you through the process.
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knimble Tech: oh ok lets hope so
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: just install wine in your stomach and you'll feel great
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I recommend a strong cabernet
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can also take a look at 'who blind' to see those who are blind, or who are blind-friendly (meaning they've helped out the blind quite often).
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: At some point in the future I'll have to consider VI in my client...
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knimble Tech: oh thats good ok thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: is there a way to get the notepad to stay on top or something so i can write out all the spell numbers and see them?
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Use Sticky Notes.
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: like windows sticky notes or in MUSH
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Windows.
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: haha ok thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: also, S&D 1.3.5 is finally fixed and shouldn't crash on room cp's any longer.  Three days straight of digging through it and at least a dozen problems fixed this weekend.  Let me know if anything else comes up.
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Anyway to make an app stay ontop of mush....like media player instead of needing to swap tabs, rofl
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: There's plenty of "pin on top" programs.
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: there are a few ways
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: VLC has this option.
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Desktop Pins is one of them.
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: i was just wondering if there was a way to do it with the MUSH notepad
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Don't think so, Graycor.
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Never really used it, though.
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: hehe no worries, appreciate it
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Think Menda gave the answer I was looking for:P
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: best option is to buy a 2nd monitor :)
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Or in my case 2 more... :D
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Graycor )
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well there's also the option of accessing VLC's functions and building a miniwindow that communicates with it, iirc that's possible but I ain't no where near that level, rofl
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weekend Exotabe Tech: Hmm... http://www.aardwolf.com/aardweb/livewho.php
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Lol. I love the javascript alert... "Hi"
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Did someone do a little xss?
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: whois exotabe
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: try finger exotabe
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weekend Exotabe Tech: I found the same issue on the Gaardian note archive a couple weeks ago, although that was in note titles.
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero wonders if she can use null characters and sql to cause mischief...
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero wouldn't though... :)
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: not if there is appropriate handling of retarded user input
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: lol retarded user input
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: never ever trust your end users :)
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: \0show tables;
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero laighs
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero and buys a dictionary ;)
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: lol fml sticky notes wont even stay pinned on top of this window
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: i hate playing on a 14" laptop
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knimble Tech: anyone on using a mac
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: has anyone written a grep for mushclient yet?
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knimble Tech: anyone on running wine on the mac
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altere Tech: DINV help, thought dinv organize sword or dinv organize rname sword would take the sword in my inventory and put it into the appropriate container, lately with anything I try it tells me Organize 0 items matching query
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Hi Altere.  You may need to do "dinv refresh all" to update your inventory.  For example, if you died and took items back from your corpse you'd need to refresh to tell dinv where things are.
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: The other possibility is that your containers don't have queries associated with them that match the sword you are trying to organize
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Try "dinv organize display" to see if your containers have queries that would match what you want to sort
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altere Tech: well, I don't recally clearing that container but it's not there anymore
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Altere: I just thought of another possibility.  If you are on dinv build 2.0042, you might be hitting a bug (that was since fixed) that would ignore unowned containers in some cases.  If you aren't using aard bags, you will want to upgrade (and you probably want to regardless :P)
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altere Tech: alright, was prior to 2.0042. thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Ok, good to know.  That bug was introduced in 42 and fixed in 43 so that probably wasn't it.
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: anyone using wine on mac, able to copy and paste colour ?
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: colorset #
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: dont really understand what you mean
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I used to. Wine/mush used to crash when I do it. After updating to latest version of wine from winehq, problem went away
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: in mush colorset # 4120. 
T3/r7/2018-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: resets certain colorset for part of the mush
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: anyone know when fiendish is on please
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: have you asked abelinc?
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Just send him a note...
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: how do ido that
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: help note
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: you could ask your question on tech, and someone may answer it
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Also that, just ask your question
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: not necessarily right now, but you can try
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: people check the history of the tech channel
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: it is about using wine on the mac but being a new user to the mac most of it is over my head
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Still, just ask
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Many of us are familiar with Wine and/or Mac
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i need to install home brew but have no clue on how to do that
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Install+homebrew+mac
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: will that install it
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger sighs.
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Click the link
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: https://docs.brew.sh/Installation
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: has the instructions
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: allso just https://brew.sh has the one-liner to install it
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: /usr/bin/ruby -e "$(curl -fsSL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install)"
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i am on a windows laptop at the moment so i guess if i email that to my icloud address then click on it it will do it stuff from the mac is that right
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I posted the literal line you can just copy/paste to install it. Just email that to yourself...or you know, just google it again.
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Homebrew is installed via a ruby one-liner.
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: is that in the terminal
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yes...
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Where else would you execute it from?
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i told you i am new to the mac 
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I understand that. But where else would you be able to enter a command like that and see a result? From a basic level.
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Every other place to interact with a mac involved buttons, that's a command, thus would be used on the command line.
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: now when i open up mail on the mac how do i get to copy the ruby command to paste it in the terminal
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That I can't actually speak to. I'm not sure how VI people navigate text to copy/paste it
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: But CMD+C is copy, and CMD+V is paste
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i think i have installed home brew how can i find out
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: when i try to install the wine it say i need qc or something like that anyone know what it means
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: - h
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: - h
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: can anyone post the link for the latest wine install please
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Use whatever brew installs
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: how would i type that in terminal please
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: brew install wine...
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: https://www.davidbaumgold.com/tutorials/wine-mac/
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It appears your might need xquartz as well, and run `brew doctor` first.
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Just so you're aware. Tech channel tends to get annoyed if you're not at least trying to google it first :P
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: it wasnt always like that
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yes it was.
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: no it wasnt
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You're wrong, but ok.
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: it depends who are active currently
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I've been lurking around tech channel since it's creation, it has NEVER been an alternative to google.
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: fiendish never bites. 
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: some say youre stupid person
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: eep..
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Lol! If you're asking questions you can google yourself, fiendish will also bite at you :P
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: some people here send "youre stupid" in the form of a riddle
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: literally
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Too bad "youre" isn't a word.
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: nah. he is mellow.
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: if i have installed wine how do i get mush on the mac now
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The same way you got it onto windows
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Finger fiendish, got to his website, follow instructions
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: oh ok thanks for all the help
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I do not see directions how to run mush on wine though
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: nm, IIRC Dimples was running Windows previously
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Just run it.
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Once WINE is installed, it'll recognize that it's a .exe and run it inside of WINE.
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ah, I just wonder whether it supports SAPI natively for screen readers
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I could be wrong, but I believe Fiendish added that.
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: anyone have the ling for the mush vi package from gethub please
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: ok lost my north button on my screen for blowtorch. any ideas
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Get a decent client? Pero's amazing client going at half price... :D
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: what is the name of pero s amazing client
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: any answers
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: rebooting all my buttons now =(
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: colorset imm
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: orangeish number
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: anyone have the link for the mushvi on gethub please
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: direct link https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/releases/download/r1993/Aardwolf_MUSHclient_r1993_no_visuals.exe
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: i'm using winkles spellup plugin 2.9, it keep stoping working and i have to reinstall it, very anoyoing.  Does anyone know af a spellup plugin that works consistantly?
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: bast
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: i saved bast's spellup at text and html and it won't load either way? any ideas?
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: You gotta get the ZIP, most of his plugins need libraries and other plugins to operate
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: ok, i just opened it up online i think, i try to download it
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: ok, i downloaded it, uzipped it and still got an error message when i tried to load the plugin. Now what?
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: bast spellup plugin that is
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: i just have the Bast folder in worlds/plugins/ and then i added bast_spellup.xml
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: thats what i did, but it came back as an error and opened up the plugin
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: i have it in another folder if that makes a difference
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i have installed wine and when i try to install mushvi it say mush can not be installed on the mac any clues what is wrong please
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: with wine installed do i have to do anything to get mush installed only the mac is saying i cant install mush on themac
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: how can i convert 'run 3n2e' to 'n;n;n;e;e'
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: does mapper have a built in option ?
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: try a leading period - .3n2e
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altere Tech: not sure if I'm clicking on something by accident or what but once in a while anything I click somewhere in Mushclient it comes up with the Copy with colour, not sure what to do other than to close it out and reopen to get it back to where I can click on things like normal.
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: last time i had that problem, it was my mouse button sticking.
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ive also seen a sticky ctrl key do something similar.
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altere Tech: not the mouse, any other programs work fine. I am running this with WINE
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mannec shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: Okay... I accidently turned on the audio on mushclient... Can anyone tell me how I turn it back off?
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: https://xkcd.com/1987/
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: thats why i do all my development in TI-BASIC
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: LOL! I mud because Im not super tech savvy. So I am so absolutely clueless that picture sums up my brain perfectly, but instead of actual words insert random keystrokes.
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: so  ... perl, then?
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: You have successfully lost me.
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Mannec's head.
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: Mmmhm...
T3/r7/2018-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: im trying to watch a video on faster-than-light particles.  it has been buffering for like, 20 minutes now.