T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yeah my 10 hours aren't very stressful or anything but it's just time away from home
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: err
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: did you know that excel vba has a bug that it won't properly copy to the clipboard without using windows API calls instead? bleh
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: (or maybe it got fixed by now)
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if in an xml plugin file for mush, in a trigger decleration if have group="abc", do i enable that group with EnableTriggerGroup("abc",true)  in an alias?
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Side note, you never need the 'true' declaration when enabling things, but you always need the 'false' declaration.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that is what i thought but something is not working. i probably have a syntax error somewhere, knowing me
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i alsways use true/false, just less chance of cocking it up
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If you want to send it my way, I can check it out when I'm on lunch or break next.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: where do i find the list of send_to options, duckduckgo isn't being very helpful in finding them
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=SetTriggerOption --> You can use the list there in the middle.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: thanks Crowley
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if i want to catch a dash in regex do i need to escape it ie -  vs \- ?
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You shouldn't need to.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: as per usual, you were correct :D
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: all this, just to get the framework constructed before i start the heavy lifting
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Don't feed my ego! I don't need an inflated head! I'm not always right! :p
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: Aint that the truth ;)
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley glares at Raoh.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Raoh patiently twiddles his thumbs.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: When I do "dinv set display warrior 1" I get items in my set that are all the way up to level 200.  Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: gimme a sec
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: i get level 1 gear..
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugoplutten Tech: WinkleWinkle - can I remove the automatic text that pops up after each kill? The text that lists mobs I have left to kill
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugoplutten Tech: its so spammy
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: find "cp c" in source and comment it out
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: xset silentmode
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugoplutten Tech: Veritheia that did nothing for me. Trachx thanks ill go and see if I can manipulate the source to remove spam
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Sounds like something I can add to S&D.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: if you fine the code, you can try changing it to "SendNoEcho("cp c")"
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I think they don't want the list to show up at all.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: oh wait right yeah sorry
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Which is ridiculous, since it's needed to remove mobs killed.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But if I add it to mine... I can just gag it instead of displaying it.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: refreshing cp info after each kill slows you down 
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: singer, more bot then
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so instead - add option - refresh (maybe with gag) after each kill or not
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: when you select target you could just mark it in GUI (change color or add some text like -->) - so user will know what targets he already selected
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Refreshing cp info is the surefire way to remove mobs you've killed, though. Otherwise, it thinks the mob is still loaded, and you will never move down the list. :p
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Can't do it that way.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean changing color?
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: it already changes color when you select a mob
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What I mean is there's no singular way to identify which mob you've killed without trying to figure out each mob's short name and all the death messages.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: is this really an issue?
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Raoh snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugoplutten Tech: problem for me is I have a small screen on my laptop and everything moves up after each dead mob. Have to scroll up to see how much exp i got etc :)
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is just enough if you highlighted mob name, leave if up to user whether he preferes refreshing win (with cp ch) or whether he will move to next target
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: cp check is lagless anyway.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It doesn't slow you down at all, really.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: IIRC original S&D started hunt trick after you got to area, does your version also starts it ?
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That's why I said I can add a "silentmode" and gag the output anyway.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugoplutten Tech: Crowly are you the author of SD?
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I would remove hunt trick, instead of it just use "qw"
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: something I'd wonder about is a way to make sure it's not missing a name in it's where guess
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: No. I'm the one currently maintaining it.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugoplutten Tech: ok cool :) 
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean starting hunt trick after xcp, if "qw" is not enough user can always start it by typing: ht <mob>
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You have the ability to choose whether you qw or ht upon entering the area.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess you are able to detect that campaign mob was killed, so probably you could just remove last "xcp" mob
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: in most cases cp killed mob was that one you just have "xcp" to
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Except there are cases where they may not match up. :p
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but then, if you prefer to refresh by "cp ch" and it does not slow you down - no point to do such thing
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: on the topic of where miss, since where lag is really little, if where misses would it be feasable to have it where the first whole word, and then the last whole word etc, to be sure it's not there?
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yuck to that, Raoh.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean, mob name: "a swirl of red and yellow", do "where swirl" "where red" "where and", where "yellow" ? (assume it is no-where mob)
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: lol, well, how about a customizable database that oyu can set for certain mob names :P
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Had been working on something like that, Raoh. Now hush your fool mouth.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Raoh coughs loudly.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you probably want to catch all death messages, and compare short name with cp name
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: it already works properly, though
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: he's just going to gag it...
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: true
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could also sort mob in same are by closest path to them
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: time for a new vpn, any suggestions on affordable ones?
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I've used PureVPN for a bit now.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: any benefit to using a vpn for the average mud player?
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: anyone know of a mush plug in that let you click on items in your bag to get them?
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: i think bast's inv monitor could do that
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: great.  I had three EQ xmls in my Bast folder, DB, lookup, and sets.  I opened the files and I dont see any help in ther on how to use.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: anyone happen to have a utility script or something for getting rid of duplicate keys?
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Last time I asked, nope
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: darn. Would likely be useful
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Not practical, though.
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevy Tech: What was he accused of, specifically?
T3/r7/2020-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevy Tech: mc
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: hi. anyone that can help me with blowtorch error i get please?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Hi, if you have 2 GPUS more or less same speed, one Nvidia and one Radeon, and you play a game on ultra, will the games graphics look exactly the same on both GPUs, or will one GPU look better?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: how do i turn off an asus predator monitor
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i cant find this damn button
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: unplug it.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: nevermind i found it
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: its on the front which is weird, usually bottom or back
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Anyone know how to use a chasm solver
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: or does anyone have a plugin to help chasm twister
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: where do you get it?  i'll take a look
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: chasm is dead simple - it's literally 4 directions; read the graffiti
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: im not sure i remember where i got it
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: thats 4 possible manual commands i have to type, you can't type that many commands for 1 mob in a gquest homie
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I need a plugin that will check every spot automatically until it finds it
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: you need more creative thinking :)
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Anyway to use the information Dinv gives in a trigger/alias?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i feel like i was told answer is no
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: No.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: It's not necessarily 4 commands
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: You just hunt the mobs in the direction you want
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: eg. the graffiti says ice, lemon, sulfer and gribble are in the same section, if your gq mob is ice, just hunt lemon
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: They will be in the same place
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley peers intently at Princess Alison.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Mischans?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: shes responding to a message i sent couple hours ago
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: im following, ty alison
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Responding to Huko asking about the Chasm solver plugin :)
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Huko was saying you have to enter in 4 diff commands to hunt for chasm, I was saying you don't actually have to do that, you just have to hunt once, so there's no need to make a plugin when you can just do a simple hunt and know the direction
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Are lunks plugins original or did he take some peoples
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You know, for a person who bitches about people using scripts, you certain ask a lot of questions about them, and plenty of questions that borderline botting.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: wat
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: damn, them's fightin' words
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I am looking to add something onto a plugin I got, and I have a version from BluMalice, Lunk and Masaki that are same thing but diff commands
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: just trying to  see who the original is, if there is an original
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i think blu/masaki are the same
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I'm just saying, you shouldn't go around calling people cheaters because they use scripts when you seem to be trying your damnedest to be more scripted than anyone.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: if i could, i would, unfortunately, i can't.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: sense was made
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: If I can't have it, nobody can
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Anyway, back to solitude. Don't want to deal with ignorant people today. :)
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: I am having trouble with my held item not re-equipping automatically when using a portal that is linked to mapper via dinv.  Any thoughts on what I'm screwing up?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: think it can mess up if you don't refresh dinv after dying
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: other than that no clue :)
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Try dinv refresh all and then going again
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: That solves 99% of the bugs I have with dinv
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: I've been having all sorts of problems with dinv unfortunately.  And also unfortunately the dinv refresh all didn't fix this problem
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: What is the mapper portal command for the portal in question?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: "mapper portal dinv portal use XXXXXXXX"
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: the portal gets used correctly and put back in its bag, just doesn't re-equip what I was holding
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Hmm
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Sorry, I don't know what could be going wrong unfortunately
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: your best bet is to wait for Durel to be on and ask him
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: and the held item also shows up in a dinv search
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Try unequipping the item and then using dinv set wear X, or dinv organize, to see if dinv knows how to manipulate the item with commands
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: If it's unresponsive to dinv organize or dinv set wear X, maybe that's the cause of your problem.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: weapon isn't align-based and you're wrong align right?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: Nah, I'm not dual wielding, it's just a held item (and no align-based issues)
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Does dinv organize/set wear manipulate the item?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Omphalon  is looking up those commands.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: If I run "dinv set wear warrior" then it does equip my held item
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: That is very weird - I have no idea what could be causing your bug, then.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: My advice is to wait for Durel to be on and talk to him.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Sorry ^^ 
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: Thanks for trying everyone... I'm sure it is something dumb I'm doing on my end
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Might not be. I vaguely remember something like that being reported here, but I don't remember what the fix was if any
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i tried adding an alias to a plugin, messed it up, tried loading the original plugin and now there is an error.  https://pastebin.com/usvqNxhk.  Any idea what went wrong
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: If anyone is willing to make and fix something for TP, message me with ya price
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: just an alias that will buy potions to a preset amount but take into consideration how many i have
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: My quote was probably high for that, but was making a blind bid based on not knowing the project scope!
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But happen to do that for that sealed bid price!
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: How much did you quote?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: He is th elitist of the elite in this field, his work is very expensive...for me
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: He has a special quote for people like me
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You know, it's always suspicious when people don't say what they actually want.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Tell you what, I'll make what you want, and have you pay me for it, but then I'll distribute it to everyone else for free.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: tech -h 10
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I want a script/alias/whatever where you can type like potionbuy, and itll buy the potions up to the amount you have set, and take into account how many you have
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talessin Tech: you can do it with dinv
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: dinv does this, yes?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: DINV does it already.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cytan nods at Talessin.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: finger durel
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I thought I checked
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: just reinvent the wheel plz
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But that requires reading to learn how to do it, and I suspect you don't like to read.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: No, actually dinv doesn't quite do that
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: To be fair dinv does everything
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: it's a good read :P tens of thousands of lines of code, 80% comments :)
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: dinv is one of the most impressive plugins/pieces of tech I've ever used, almost every useful feature is in it :P
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You can tell dinv how many to buy, but dinv doesn't look at how many you already have and then calculate how many should still be bought to get to the total
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I dont want to input the amount I want, I want to input a variable that says how many, and then 1 command will do the math to that amount
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Fair enough, Durel. It doesn't do exactly like he wants.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: but you can get that as you do store as a variable, remaining.  correct?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Durel - someone earlier had a problem with their dinv use portal, it doesn't requip their hold item
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Do you have any ideas what it could be?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I tried to do it myself and add to a potion tracker I got, but not only did i break the script, the original doesnteven work anymore
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: dinv definitely recognizes the hold item - it shows up in dinv search and equips it on dinv set wear
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: he provides "as-is", or 1TP per minute.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: And I asked them to dinv refresh all and it still didn't work
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Alison: interesting, I'd be happy to help debug that but I'd probably need to talk to whomever was having the issue
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: Hi Durel :)
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Omphalon is the person.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I can't think of anything offhand to cause that...hmm
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: My issue was exactly as Allison described
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Can the item be used in more than 1 spot, like wear and hold?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Maybe try "dinv refresh all"?  If the hold item was moved around in another client (e.g., blowtorch) then dinv may not know where it is
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: They already refreshed all
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: have you tried turning it off and on again? (close and re-open application)?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: does it work if you use a different hold item?  Or is it just that particular hold item that is having trouble?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: all my plugin ideas btw crowley are moreso QOL , not bot related :P
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If I recall correctly, there was some portal that was both hold and portal and that could maybe cause an issue?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: I'm having the issue on all of my portals (academy, zoo, and call of heroes)
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: What's the hold ite?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: To be fair, bots are QoL-related, too.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Bots make your QoL lower because then you can't play aardwolf any more.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: So it uses the portal but doesn't reequip your hold item?  Is that the issue?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: Correct, and it puts the potal back in it's right place, just doesn't re-equip the held item.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Do you still see that behavior if you try it with a different hold item?  I'm just trying to narrow down if there is something unique about your hold item that is triggerign this
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: Yep, just reproduced it with another held item
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: So any idea why https://pastebin.com/usvqNxhk comes up when I try and reinstall a plugin?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yep. I have an idea. It's because there's a run-time error in the code that needs to be fixed.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Fix the error, and it goes away! :D
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: If I could only fix the errors I cause :(
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: The text actually explains what the problem is - you're attempting to compare a number with a null variable, I think.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: And it explains the functions and line numbers where this failed attempt occurs
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: For those who wanted to know the resolution to my problem... it was that I was using a dinv version 0.1.3, soooo totally my fault
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: daaaaang that is anchient
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, hehe.  The first public version I published on github was 0.3.0 so I'm curious who hacked my computer to get the pre-release version :P
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: damn hes good
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I'm glad the problem was fixed at least
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Not as glad as I am :P
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I've had similar issues myself, ended up it was because I was using an old version of spellup
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: any way to add more macro key combinations in mushclient (ones unlisted)
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can use the Accelerator function to add many.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I'm just curious about the "DOING" and whatnot.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yeah i don't get those at all but eh
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: ahh.. got it figured out. Thanks very much :)
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: weirdly named function
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If you haven't, install the Mushclient help plugin. You can then type 'mchelp <function>' to find how to use them.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Where's that plugin? I would love to not have to search the Mushclient forums constantly for those.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's in the default plugin directory.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Huh. I must have uninstalled it ages ago for some stupid reason. Thanks!
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Not loaded by default, but it comes with MUSHClient in general.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: holy cow, how did I not know about that?  Thanks Crow :)
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia rapidly nods twice at Mr. Crowley, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia is agreeing with that Durel person again...
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I snoop.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That's why I know about things like that. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i think i can make this potion thing but itll only be for my potions instead of anyu potions :(
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what are you trying to do to potmon
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I was trying to use the numbers to do some math but I messed it all up, so I am just making my own now
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: math? what kind of math?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: potiontotal - currentpotions
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: running into your item cap are you?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: get a bag and.write.an alias
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Using the Variable on actions, anyway to just simply +1 to it?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: variable on triggers inside mushclient I mean
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: I suppose it depends on what for. I use a counting variable, that I add 1 to, for my color adding variable for cp/gq targets.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I was just using the variable dropdown thinking itd be easier than Execute and doing it from there, but I dont think it is
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I just did script and SetVariable("VarName",(GetVariable("VarName") + 1)) instead
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: To disable a set of triggers, what do you set?  I have Group set for everything in the script.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I know you can disablegroup, maybe grouping everything together doesnt go there
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: does DisableTriggerGroup only disable the triggers in the group, or everything in the group?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: all the triggers with the group label
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: okay perfecto
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I mean if you break a rule, sure
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: wth
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Anyway to temporarily unmute/silence/whatever invdata bag ansi?  Something is keeping it a lil less spammy
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: https://pastebin.com/vm0HvK0X heres my shitty script that only works with 2 very specific potions :O
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vex Tech: How do i determine what plugin or script is causing mush to be upset with me?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: reinstall windows
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Raoh patiently twiddles his thumbs.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KnightLord Throxx slaps Raoh
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: just disable them all and enable one by one? :P
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: I wish there was a way to designate portals in mapper as using X number of moves, since pulling a portal out of a bag, swapping it, entering, swapping back to the original portal, and putting the portal back in the back takes 5 actions, when you could move 5 rooms in the same game processing time.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: does the mapper have a command to list all rooms in an area?
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: mapper here %
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Er, not that command.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: mapper area %... but it only works if the area has less than 50 rooms.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If you're using my version of S&D, you can do xm % to find all rooms in the area.
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: thanks! worked
T3/r7/2020-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Hmm, who was it that was asking about a "silent" feature on S&D to where it didn't display the target list in the main window?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: lmao whaaaat?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: whats the point? chat window basically
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley pats Slips on his head.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: im.lost. somewhere
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The point is since they get the same information in the miniwindow, they don't need to see it twice. :D
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: oh speed
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Nothing to do with speed. cp check is lagless.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: nod
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: it's more about noise.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: nod
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Don't want clutter on the main screen if they have it in a miniwindow.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: i just wanna say cheater because they faster than me
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: lag
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: any media has a 7 sec lag option
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's not that they're faster, just smarter. *shrug*
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: thats why janet jackson slipped her nipple
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: fibre optics and 5 g?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: we have fibre
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Is there a function that compares two people's mapper databases to see differences in rooms explored? I swear there is
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You would have to have both databases and execute a sql query to compare them, I believe.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I don't know of a native way to compare them.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Could probably pass some data through tell or something but /shrug
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: push notifications
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: is there a separate aardwolf mushclient build version or is it just the version in about?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: if so, how can I check?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: got it, it's checkversion
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Those of you who do not subscribe to tech board but use my Search and Destroy, be sure to check out my latest two posts on tech board and 'snd update'. Added a couple features that were requested, and fixed at least one bug.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: Is there a help file for S&D?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, reading my post would suggest typing 'xhelp' ;)
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: Haven't had much sleep and it is showing! Thanks, Crowley!
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley grins evilly.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Been there, done that plenty of times!
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley now has to go make some hospital runs!
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: anyone know how to copy a mapper db over the original db
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: it wont rename to aardwolf.db, it is keeping the aardwolf.db.backupsomething
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's it say when you try to rename it?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: it renames rpoperly but the file type is BACKUP something
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't do any of this with MUSH open
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tell Windows to not hide file extensions
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Herowyn Kerowyn nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: it doesnt
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: file type is "backup automatic"
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if your File Explorer is telling you that, then it IS hiding file extensions...that .db is not the final "dot", so Windows says it's just part of the file name and not the extension
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knitted by Kharpern Tech: makes sure you have mush closed when you copy it over
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: thanks legend
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: are you supposed to see your own battlecry?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: How do i change my portal bag id in snd?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: SnD doesn't control portals. Do you mean mapper portal?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: you dont. you change in mapper
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Mapper help portal, dinv help portal if you use that
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: havent used pc in a year and its trying to pull my portals out of a bag i dont use anymore. just need to figure out how to change the bag id spot
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: That would be either dinv or mapper. 
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: check your alias. alias control the bags if im not wrong
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: mapper help portal area 
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Mapper help portals*
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: nod looked through there and didnt see a command to change bag id
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Okay. Are you using dinv?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: does dinv refresh update bag id's?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: do you use aliases in your portals? mine has a portalias alias
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: i change my bag ids there
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: there's a few way people do this portal thing
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: haike i did see a alias, and i changed the PUT away id because i saw that but i didnt see where it was pulling from in that alias
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Yeah, we're trying to figure out how your setup works so we can figure out how it changes
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Do you use dinv, Zagyg?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: no
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Okay. What shows up when you type mapper portals
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper doesn't use a bag ID...you give the mapper a command for "use this portal"...that command would contain getting it from the bag and such
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: all my portals
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: What is listed under "portal commands"?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: Im sure haike and i use the same version.. asking him 
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: type: mapper portals
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: the output contains a column named: "portal commands"
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: what does that column contain?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Yeah, that's what I asked. The bag should be in there.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Since you aren't using dinv 
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: do_portal_engine
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: to pull it out
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: does it also have some numbers?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: like: "do_portal_engine 12345678"?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that's what I've called my portal function in tinyfugue since before MUSHclient
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: do_portal_engine sounds like an alias of some kind?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you need to then look at what do_portal_engine does...see if "do_portal_engine *" is one of your aliases
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although I wrote my do_portal_engine to take 2 arguments, the portal keyword and the bag keyword...there is some overlap with portal keywords so I put most portals into a portal bag and put conflicting ones into a general bag...and 2 reasons I don't use itemIDs: (1) I wrote all of this well before they existed, and (2) I share files between chars which would of course have different item IDs
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: That's exactly what I did, Abe. Nowadays I use dinv though.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you find it in your main aliases list (game -> configure -> aliases)?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Before I had the sense to write portal aliases I hardcoded everything like a dummy. :P 
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Unrelated question, but: in "clients", what's the difference between unknown and unidentified clients?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one did not give the MUD a type, and the other the MUD just doesn't have that type associated with a well-known client
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Ah, I see
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: is there a way to have S&D recall before going anywhere when I click on a mob in the cp list?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: S&D uses mapper, so if mapper choses to run then it is probably optimal path
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: consider adding portals to mapper (read: mapper help portals)
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: okay.  when I dont manualy recall first the runto's cause me to end up in odd places.  (granted this mapper file was borrowed from Cera so there may be some oddities)
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need to check what is wrong, if you are in room A and want to get to room B and you end up in odd place:  recall, move to room B and note its id (mapper thisroom will show it), then move back to room A and type "mapper where <room B id>" and you will see path created by mapper from A to B
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: most likely you have some cexits defined (like you moved before cexit was complete), or there are closed door, or some exits were removed (open clan ones), or you have incorrect portals
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for example when I type "mapper where 28514" I get: xp_pt 905441212;run d3w6n;open n;n;run 3nwn;enter cauldron;run 2e3s2u;enter cannon;run dn2wn;open w;w;open w;w;enter prie;run swnw
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if threre was something wrong with that path - then I would execute it step by step, so first that xp_pt, then run d3w6n, and so on
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: yeah something.  I removed all the portals when I moved the db over, only one left and I have that portal  (used it last mort too).
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: gotta be the exits.  I end up in Insanitaria a lot
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: after you do several steps and get to C you can again type "mapper where <room>" and compare whether path C to B still matches remaining path from A to C to B
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: getting back to where I was after getting lost isn't easy.  I'm cp'ing so once I kill a mob its hard to get back to.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: i appriciate your assistance though
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Fancy Cupcake beams a smile at Trachx.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: heh, ended up back in insan... so I level locked all the rooms leading form teh contintant to the area.  :)
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: someone explain to me how to download a plugin from github, I'm right clicking and saving link as, but it's coming in as a html of the page that contains the file, not the file itself
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: No. :p
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Download the zip file, extract the contents into the plugin folder.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: wat
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That's really the easiest way to do it.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: ah ok, wasn't right clicking the way to do it once? or am I confused? lol
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Never was, because it saves it as a web page, as you found out, and not the xml file.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: must be thinking of something else then, thanks :)
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycho! Dillon Tech: who has the updated conwin?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What updated comwin?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycho! Dillon Tech: there's an old one by fluffytail (i think) then there is another one, cant remember
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycho! Dillon Tech: someone from amazon modified it
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycho! Dillon Tech: kobus
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Modified it to do... what?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycho! Dillon Tech: update without considering every time you kill a mob
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh, I misread. I thought you said comwin, as in comm log.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycho! Dillon Tech: lol
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Anyway, back to writing essays that I haven't even started.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycho! Dillon Tech: offfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff dont speak about essays :P
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Heh. Trying to get my bachelor's in health science. It's a pain in the ass when you're told to research something, but everything you try to research comes up with zero results.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Specializing in homeopathy then?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: you must be doing it wrong.  all of your health science searches should show porn.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I wish, Veritheia. Bachelor of Health Science in Professional Development and Advanced Patient Care. Currently attempting to find scholarly articles on the role and education of cardiovascular technicians.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Rather, scope of practice. Heh.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: hmm.  im sure there must be like, a heart surgeon message board where they all hang out, complain about work, and exchange porn.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I need a long degree title like that. Sounds fancy!
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: mostly i avoid cardiologists, tho.  even online.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Mannec, you're annoying.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Failurette Noegel.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i tried to be useful once, but folks hated that too.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel consoles Mannec. It is obvious that Failurette Noegel cares.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: but seriously - hospital employee message boards are more likely to be productive as a starting point.  google is better for published studies, but ... sounds like you dont need those.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Except I need peer reviewed scholarly journal articles from the school's online library. :(
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: try a library
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ... lots of studies on surgical techniques, not so many on scope of practice, i would think.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: pfft, libraries all closed.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And the online library just about is as helpful as a border wall blocking the giant Asian hornets.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: im moderately convinced that putting a wall up around washington state would be a real benefit to us all :/
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: oh yeah, what did they do?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What dod who or what do? 
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: or did. wtf, I can't even type, and I need to type an essay.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: they imported murder-hornets.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: there goes my grade on spelling.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Seriously, though, the US is being invaded by giant Asian hornets. These suckers are 2.5 inches long and kill 50 people a year. It's the second thing to come out of Asia in 2020 trying to kill us all.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: on the other hand, they _do_ sort of lend support to the pro-machinegun stance...
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, it's a bit longer than my daughter's degree, which is a Bachelor of Science in Animal Behavior, Ecology, and Conservation...they just called them ABEC majors
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Crowley: instead of regular google, are you trying scholar.google.com?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You must have said something interesting, Mannec just perked up.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, while library buildings are closed, many library systems will still have reference librarians on staff (maybe not today being Sunday, but during the pandemic)
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Abelinc: I am using scholar.google.com. Always do, when I research, even if I'm supposed to be grabbing the articles from the school's online library.
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}#SANCTUARY Pleiades Tech: is abelinc here?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: can i cancel a refresh
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: on durel
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: anyone know how to exclude certain items (not containers) from being organized automatically by DINV?
T3/r7/2020-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: any suggestions on a good router/extender combo? with all this quarantining my router is suffering from too many devices connected at once :p
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Does the dinv organize function always cycle through every single item?
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: in MushClient can you colorise the text you send to a miniwindow with WindowText ? besides making it all one colour with the colour field?
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: march 2019? 49,975
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley peers intently at Redryn.
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That... was random.
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mis
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i saw that number was 50% previously lol
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ugh mis
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel glares at Redryn for a moment before BANNING him from the mud!
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BabyShark Kya Tech: Does anyone know why the dinv portal use command would be putting a hold item on instead of a dual wielded weapon? As in, it's removing a dualed weapon, using the portal, and putting in a held item instead. Even after a dinv refresh.
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I think that depends on you current priority settings. what would "dinv set wear <yoursetname>" do? dual wield or hold item?
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BabyShark Kya Tech: I'm asking for a friend, let me have them try that. You're probably right though, that makes sense.
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BabyShark Kya Tech: Thank you.
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: you're welcome
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Anyone got a sweet consider plugin that lets ya hotkey with 1 etc, that doesnt crash?
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: What does this mean?
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: could probably just set the key macro  yourself...
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Yeah, sounds like you're just talking about setting an alias
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: theres a super duper consider plugin that exists, but it crashes a lot, i was wondering if anyones got an updated one
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Can you explain what exactly you want this plugin to do?
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: super duper old
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: trying to force traffic to a certain range of IPs over a VPN, but command prompt doesn't like my wildcard.
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: doing route -p add X.Y.*.* 0.0.0.0 IF (VPN) and it gets kicked out. doing a fully specified IP has been working in the past. what am I messing up?
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: If you're setting a route, you probably have to express it in a CIDR form...
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: try x.y.*.12/24 or whatever range you want.
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: doesn't like x.y.*.12/24
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Random globby wildcards are almost certainly not going to mean anything...  you'll have to express it as a subnet.
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: I'm not smart enough to know what this means
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: you'll definately need a subnet mask on that
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm a little confused here, what's the goal again?
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: previously I had been doing: "route -p add w.x.y.z 0.0.0.0 IF (VPN)" and it had been working, but I suspect it may be trying to use things other than that specific IP address, and letting Y and Z change would fix my problem
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: the example i gave is what erikson is referring to as well (CIDR).  what we're saying is you need to define a static X.Y.Z, and your subnet range is from/to.  so for example, if you were going to create a proxy to foward all traffic from 192.168.1.1/255 -> 0.0.0.0, that would prevent anyone on your network from seeing you (and probably your router so don't)
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: I need traffic intended for a specific range of IP addresses to go through my VPN
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: You need IPv8 for a /255 subnet   :p
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: geek.
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: ok so what do I type in command prompt
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: pls halp
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: In routing terms, "ranges" can't be arbitrary; they have to be defined as subnets.
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: If you _really_ can blow the last 2 octets around freely, you can express that as a /16.
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Seems like a bit of an odd case though, unless you're just shotgunning it.
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: I really don't know what this means, I just want my network to see X.Y.*.* and put it through the VPN
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: I'm shotgunning it
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: ok... so he wants a.b.x.x     so subnet would be 255.255.0.0
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: So that's by x.y.0.0/16
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: so typing in this: "route -p add x.y.0.0 /16 255.255.0.0 IF (VPN)" will route any IP address with the third and fourth numbers changed through my VPN?
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Wouldn't be a space before the /.  And it'd depending on the syntax your route(8) took; it may require it in netmask form (255.255.0.0), after a / or a space, or maybe it requires another arg for the prefix length.
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: well the syntax worked but my thing that wasn't working still isn't working
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: looks like it's not working for my purpose
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: I don't know how to explain what I need. lets say the IP I was using before was 100.200.1.2. "route -p add 100.200.1.2 0.0.0.0 IF (VPN)" would route all traffic intended for 100.200.1.2 through the VPN. but, I would also like 100.200.1.3 to go through the VPN. and 100.200.50.250 to go through the VPN.
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so you're telling devices with a certain IP to go through your VPN?
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: wouldn't that screw up the security of the VPN if it worked?
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: I want my laptop to route traffic for 100.200.*.* through the VPN
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Right, you wans 100.200.0.0/16.  But how you express that depends on your route(8)'s syntax, and I don't know what that is.
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: this is a work thing, not a security thing
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: I need 100.200.*.* to see my work's IP, not my IP
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WhatsApp KoopaTroopa Tech: telling a machine to route through a host isnt enough to make it work... that host has to have routing enabled
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: telling it to route through 100.200.1.2 did work
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: "route -p add 100.200.1.2 0.0.0.0 IF (VPN)" worked perfectly for my purpose
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WhatsApp KoopaTroopa Tech: and your previous command wasnt route add <options> <my ip> <0> interface <vpn> shouldnt have worked
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WhatsApp KoopaTroopa Tech: because the command is (in kinda english) route add (to this place) (and subnetmask) use this (interface in your case, but usually its gw local ip address)
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oenu Tech: was wondering how to configure?  am using aardwolf mushclient?
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: file -> world properties
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: there should also be shortcuts up above. a with arrow goes to alias, barcode looking thing with arrow for triggers, etc
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oenu Tech: am a vi player
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oenu Tech: am a vi player
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oenu Tech: got it
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Sorry, it's hard for me to help you there but I can tell you the settings are all stored in the /world folder under aardwolf.mcl which you can edit with a text editor
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: in zmud/cmud i coudl type #10 quaff potion and it would send quaff potion 10 times
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: is there a similar shorthand for mush?
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Scars, I wrote my own loop alias for it.
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: anyone into building computers know abiout compatibility between gpu and chipset want to explain if i am looking at the gpu and mobo chipset or something else?
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: chipset and cpu
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: isnt that covered in socket?
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: so gpu isnt involved?
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: correct. make sure your cpu matches your mobo's chipset and socket both
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: (they generally should)
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: as in, if it matches one, it typically should match the other. but always check
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: so :https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144216?Item=N82E16813144216 and https://www.newegg.com/core-i5-9th-gen-intel-core-i5-9600k/p/N82E16819117959?Item=N82E16819117959
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: though intel chips aren't very good these days and they just announced their new lineup
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: in that case, i think you're looking for LGA1151 mobo
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: that one is LGA1151 Z390 GAMING PLUS LGA 1151 (300 Series) Intel Z390
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i have stayed out of hardware as much as i can, nver got used to the amd naming.
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: https://www.anandtech.com/show/15758/intels-10th-gen-comet-lake-desktop
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: yeah i know gen10 is out, that why i was buying 9th... cheaper.
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: noone has the 10th gen yet
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: whats comp in amd?
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ryzen 3000s?
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zepfu Tech: hmm. i moved to a new pc and copied only my worlds folder. looks like a lot of my settings didnt make it over. any suggestions on what else should be moved?
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suluap Tech: i think you need to copy the aardwolf.db file
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suluap Tech: im not completely sure though
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: you can save alais/trigger/gariables in Senate files
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: seperate
T3/r7/2020-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zepfu Tech: hmm is the aardwolf db file where the mapper detail is stored? looks like most of the data i had is gone
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Is there a way to make it so stuff that mobs say don't appear on my communication log? I want to keep it clear so I can see the stuff said by actual players
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: just right click the comm log and you'll find it in the list of options
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: echo in main window settings
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Thanks Guinness - was afk, didn't notice your response
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: She's AFK now too, so I'll pass it on :P
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Princess Alison thanks Robbo heartily.
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Message delivered
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: is there a way to set up mushclient to autosave world details on an interval? like every hour or so
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: pretty sure that already happens
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: nope
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Nick Gammon made an AutoSave plugin.
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: it does some database backup
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I'll send a link for the plugin. Give me a few.
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Does that plugin save mapper details too? I hate it when my MUSH crashes or I do a restart or whatever, and then all the rooms I explored vanish
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: there is "save world" button
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: i think this problem goes away the more you've played.
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I do click that regularly, yeah
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Was just wondering if the autosave did it for you. 
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: the crucial thing is to keep the current mush backup in a safe place
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: And yeah, once you've mapped out everywhere it doesn't matter any more - I'm not quite there yet though :)
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: I need some help with DINV. currently whenever i remort, i have to "remove all", and remort. later on when im at level 1 remorted, i have to manually store items back in the bags. is there a way to store items to their correct containers using DINV?
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: dinv organize
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: dinv help organize explains it
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: becase.. this has happened to me twice - in some freaky accidental crash, it can flush the db file.
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: oooof
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: but that takes some stars to align. 
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: you know there is a backup of your aardwolf db file in your mushclilent \ db-backups
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: according to dinv help organise, pt4, if i type "dinv organise" it should store everything back in containers, but when i tried typing that, it returns the DINV command list like it's a invalid option?
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: try organize with a z, not an s
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: DINV Organized 0 items matching query ""
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Have you defined your containers?
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: no i havent, i need to use keywords assign to each container?
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Type dinv organize display and tell me what it looks like
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: It should look something like this:  /|\Veil of Realms/|\ (1844367150): type portal ~key aardwolf
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: So for example, this shows that my Veil of Realms is configured to store all portals except aardwolf portals
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: That way, dinv "knows" where to put each item
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: ah i dont want that, currently my bags are organised by my enchanted level sets. i dont want to change anything or store only weapons or only armor 
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: If you read dinv help organize, it shows you the process of setting these container definitions, as well as gives you a sample that you can copy
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: i just want it to put my stuff away in its already stored data base
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That's what 'dinv put' is for.
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: That's okay (although note that if you're managing equipment sets with dinv set wear, you don't need to sort items by sets)
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Hi Haike.  Dinv remembers the last container each item was seen in.  You can "dinv store all" to put all of your stuff back into their last known container
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Or store, yeah.
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: nice! dinv store all? lemme test
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, that's a handy one.  That's what I do right before I remort.
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I usually use dinv organize all to make sure it all goes where it's supposed to
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: But it all shakes out the same in the end
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: nice! this is exactly what i wanted
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yep.  If you have moved stuff around so that things may have been in the wrong container, then "dinv organize ..." would be better.
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: thanks durel
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Basically:  "dinv organize" puts things into containers based on what you say should be in a particular container, "dinv store ..." puts things back into their last known container, and "dinv put ..." lets you put specific things into a specific container
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: So there are three modes depending on what you want
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I used to keep sets in their own bags too for easier manipulation manually, but once I got dinv, I could just dump everything into a big bag and let dinv sort it all out
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: yeah i have my own way of storing stuff, i just want to put things away when i remort
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: this works just fine
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Makes sense, Haike :)
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Congrats on the remort!
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rever Tech: what is the command to mark the start of an area?
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rever Tech: in mapper
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: xset mark
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: there's no such thing for mapper. for mapper extender, what omphalon said
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: is there any public musch damage meters out there
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i wanna see the pewpew
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: have you seen 'dtrack'?
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: ya but i'm looking for something a bit more, just curious might not be anything public
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Where can I find dtrack?
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: just type it :)
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: dtrack stands for diss track
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: damage tracker
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Ah cool. Thanks that'll work.
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: there is one that gives a report after each mob killed. not sure of the name tho
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Think that is a plugin
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: yup
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: might be Bast, but im not 100% sure
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Does anyone have a way to pull GMCP data and figure out what classes/remorts you have? If so, I would love an example
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: require gmcphelper. Then do, e.g., local classes = gmcp("char.base.classes")
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP lists it out for you.
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: right that will return, for example, 102 right?
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: I need to convert that to.. I don't remember but for example Psi = true, WAR = false, etc
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: I guess it's enough for me to know if there's a function that will search that string if another string exists, e.g. if classes contains 1 then psi = true, etc.
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: but maybe my google/reading was bad but I couldn't find a lua function that would do that
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Yeah. I use string.find. string.find(classes, '0') would return something other than nil if you have mage. 0 is mage, 4 is ranger. Can't say I know offhand which numbers correlate to which classes other than those, though.
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: excellent! Thanks a lot!
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia goes to Veritheia: "No Problem!"
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: char.base.classes gives them in the order you remorted. So if you did that on yourself, you could get the values.
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yeah that's not the issue, I just needed string.find :D
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: I'm slightly on the smarter side of "completely useless" so I'll be fine from here.. Hopefully :D
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: I mean that literally.. I'm mostly useless :P 
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: That makes two of us, then.
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i had a site that was giving windows 10  keys for like $30 but i lost it, anyone have a decent site for keys?
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I updated my dinv priority for psi and played with numbers, specifically I changed up the dualwield property so that it would dual this weapon and it still refuses and holds the candle. what am I doing wrong?
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I set dualwield from 2.0 (.5 higher than max stat) to 10.0 thinking it would just take priority over everything.
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suluap Tech: turn hold off
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suluap Tech: you can turn the hold spot off so it will dualwield
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: oh. how?
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I didn't see hold as a field
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: i think there is an example in the help
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suluap Tech: if you look at the full priorty list...it is towards the bottom...i think you toggle 1 or 0
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: To see all possible fields you can edit, do "dinv priority edit full [priority]" and *everything* will be there by default.  normally it hids stuff with a value of 0.
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: oh yeah. I see it, sorry. I just didn't go down far enough
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: no worries, it's not exactly a simple or intuitive plugin :P
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suluap Tech: yeah...it wasnt obvious to me the first time either...but that should help you
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KnightLord Throxx stares evily at Durel, toothpick at ready!
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: i thougth that woudl nod sagely, my bad
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: sage is gross anyway.
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: do I need to do something to set my current priority? or does dinv set wear ... do that
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: durel has preset priorities
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Useless information, Huko.
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: dinv help set
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: yeah... that wasn't my question though. I know the priorities exist, I wasn't sure if using dinv set wear ... set that priority used.
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: No, you would need to specify a priority each time
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suluap Tech: read the help file...you specify the priority you want to use when using the wear set option
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suluap Tech: i set an alias...dinvs myThief...so it does the dinv wear set <priority>
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: you can use set, or, if you wanna equip buy weapon damage type, you cans do what i do: dinv weapon Blacksmith bash
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suluap Tech: sorry i meant set wear
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suluap Tech: nods...i have another alias set up for my weapon switches...it is helpful
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: yeah okay. I was just trying to figure out when you swap from portal to something how it knew which set to use. got it figured out, thanks.
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: i made an non-div alias to just swap to changing weapons, for bash immune mobs. was easier than trying to force dinv to use changing
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eroe nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suluap Tech: use the portal option in dinv to use portal...then it will switch back to what it had been holding...if you dont have portal slot
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: just upgrade my lappie ram today!
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: anyone remember the dinv portal delete/usage command? I broke mine and need to reset.
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I don't see it though looking at the list.
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: what do you mean by "delete"?
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: dinv refresh, to make it refresh your inventory
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: just delete it from my list of usable portals.
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that's in the mapper, not dinv
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That's mapper, not DINV.
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: mapper portals
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what's this dinv you speak of?
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: hey, no wonder I couldn't find it. thanks. I will obtain more coffee before asking any more stupid questions :p
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: mapper help portals
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: Scars: an invetory plugin
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: finger durel
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Durel's Inventory Managment System. :p
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Type mapper portals to get a list of your mapper portals, then mapper delete portal #x (where that is the index number of the portal you want to delete on mapper portals)
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: eg. I type mapper portals and locate the offending portal as #26 on the list, so I type mapper delete portal #26
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Dinv is my favorite plugin! It's really powerful and intelligent
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: yeah, learning how to use it better was a really good move.
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: what have I done to my excel settings where when i use the arrow keys it moves the screen but doesn't move what cell im on
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: scroll lock
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: kers for the win - thank you
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llylianna Tech: hi, I had a question that I think should go in here?
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: This'll be the channel for all things tech. What's the question?
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: only one way to find out!
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llylianna Tech: Yeah, when I go to login to aardwolf, I get a message that noone exists with my username would I like to start a new character so I say N and try again
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llylianna Tech: I was wondering if someone said Y, would that end up deleting my character?
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: no.
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: how long ago did you play?
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llylianna Tech: I am new
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: You probably just mistyped. That message doesn't appear when you enter a name that already exists.
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llylianna Tech: I thought that too, but copy pasting it once gives me the Y/N message, then saying N and copy pasting again 
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llylianna Tech: gives the password prompt
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: I just logged out and back in again and didn't see that message. Not sure why you would...
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llylianna Tech: Hence why I brought my question here
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llylianna Tech: it's not new either... that's been happening since I made my character
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: might be worth dropping a note to imm on boards.
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llylianna Tech: Okay, I'll see to it I do that
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llylianna Tech: Thankyou
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llylianna Tech: how do I address a note just to imms?
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: board personal, note write, then just use imm as the to
T3/r7/2020-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llylianna Tech: thankyou for al your help, I'll stop spamming the channel now ^-^
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: How do you change the target of your S&D, can you do it manually?
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: yeah if you type qw "keyword" it'll look up the new mob
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Is there a way to change the font color of a channel? The immtalk font is hard to read on my screen
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use colorset
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: if mapper has exits from a room that no longer exist, how to you get mapper to update?  mapper help exits isn't helpful.
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Go to the room, type 'mapper purgeroom', walk out, and then walk in again.
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: that worked.
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can also right-click the room and look at/modify its exits
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: that IS helpful, thank you
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Hi, is there any reason a 2004ish CRT monitor won't work on a 2019 GPU?
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: only issue would be connectors but you can get adapters.
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Awesome! ty :)
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Yup, it got a vga adapter, Then I need to get a dvi adapter I guess.
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Screen have vga*
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Gonna buy a LCD, but got a spare CRT laying around, may aswel hook it up and play aard on it :P
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Anywhere to download Bejewled without origin or steam
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes. Your phone.
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: on pc, momma wants it
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: she ordered some 30$ cd from 15 years ago and was thinking it migh tnot run and thats a bit much'
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Any suggestions on where to illegally download stuff is not permitted on tech channel.
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: why do you jump to conclusions
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: sorry lemme get real specific, any drm free way to download a legit copy of bejeweled on PC
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Who said I was jumping to conclusions? Why do you assume I was talking to you?
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Huko: I think you can find it in collections at Wal-Mart.
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is this for PC or Mac?
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: pc
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I bought a code from target cause it didnt mention any steam or origin, but it was origin :X
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: https://zone.msn.com/en/bejeweled/ for online.
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Considering the makers of the game, I doubt you can get it anywhere DRM free without some illegal stuff.
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: yeah i mthinking the same, EA is lame, i was surprised to even see it on steam
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I still want to know why you assumed I was talking to you. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley thinks [Outlaw] Mendaloth's social is all about him!  They're wrong!
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You're so vain, you probably think this message is about you!
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}P3stilence Nasus Tech: Now that you put it that way. I do
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: any tech wizards know why my computer might be hanging: some sort of power management?
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: cpu usage nowhere near max
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: mine hangs when automatic backups to spare drive happens
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: win10?  does it start?
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: when does it hang?
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: not that i'm a tech wiz
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: randomly, seemingly
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: probs a problem with this computer in general: it's had issues since its release and has bluescreened straight from the factory heh
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}=Uzumaki= Naruto Tech: it randomly turns off?
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: still have warranty?
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: nah, hanging as in major lag for the entire computer (like freezing but not perma frozen)
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}=Uzumaki= Naruto Tech: and the ram usage? the computer gets hot?
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: ive got 32 gb ram and im using like 1% of it lol
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: comp has thermal issues from factory but even with throttling it shouldnt be hanging this badly i'd think: thought there might be a simple answer but its probably the effed up bios
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: this laptop has dpc latency issues from factory
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: maybe its just getting worse
T3/r7/2020-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: shouldnt be hanging my whole comp id think
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: does aardwolf support mccp3?
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: like compression from client to mud server
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: type mccp
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it uses mccp, not sure there's different versions
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: mccp is just a zlib compression triggered by telnet negotiation
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: i guess the tintin writers added something called mccp3 to allow compressed data to be sent from the user to the mud server
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: but reading more about this i think it is very new and aardwolf probably doesnt use this. i think it would be a cool feature though
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: user does not send too much :)
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: true. i mean only for the purpose of not having packets of plain text out there
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: the truth is out there!
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: lol and your login password too
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: nod, time to start using ssh
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: which should be easy fix... does it have similar negotiation service like telnet? probably does
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: anyone able to catch enough packets will soon work out it is just zipped and unzip it anyway
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: yeah, and both creds are most likely in the same stream chunk too!
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: so who will start catching and who will be the first victim?
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: now using an ssh key to login would be a big leap forward
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: only one small problem: no mud client (afaik) supports ssh :D
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: anyone know why I'm seeing this everytime prompt refreshes now "Syntax: toprank [period] [amount] periods: daily, monthly, weekly, yearly. amount : between 1 and 50." and "DINV Skipped getting "pagesize": timeout DINV Failed to detect # of lines in the page size: timeout"?
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: tried deleting dinv & reinstalling fresh but still same thing happening
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: I deleted my mush and went back to a backup from last month and I'm still seeing "Syntax: toprank [period] [amount] periods: daily, Monthly, weekly, yearly. amount : between 1 and 50." when prompt updates. I tried resetting promt to but didn't do anything. It's something on the muds end though and not my client
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: any idea how to reset or fix it?
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You might consider turning on echocommands to see what is being sent.
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Maybe even local echo.
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But it sounds like at the same time that DINV is trying to get pazesize, you're sending a command that breaks it.
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: thanks i'll try that
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: yeah I'm seing pagesize error too
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: i inputted an alias earlier so maybe that's what did it. Know how I can delete that?
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: turn on echocommands and see what's causing that to pop up
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: I think I got it fixed, hope so at least. I deleted the alias I put in earlier and so far it's looking ok. Thanks for all the help :)
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: What does Trigger function "anex_mobdeath_xp1" not found or had a previous error.?
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Sorry, that got garbled
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: What does "Trigger function "anex_mobdeath_xp1" not found or had a previous error." mean?
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is was not found or had a previous error and got deactivated
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: How can I identify which is the one that has an error?
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think you coud text search for "anex_mobdeath" to find what plugin contains it
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Oh, you can text search? 
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: How do I do that?
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: plugins are just simple text files
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Ah, so just check through my plugins
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: text search the contents of your plugins folder
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Thanks - found the offending plugin, reinstalled it, and everything seems to be in order now
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: how hard is it to communicate with the mapper plugin? like is there an example of how that's done from within another plugin?
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: could likely look at S&D I bet
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: oh nods. what a concept. thanks.
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: wasn't thinking about that :p
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: [Melvin]: At 171 kpm, Friday 08 May, 2020 at 13:31 MUDtime (1h 04m from now)
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: did anyone else get connected?
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: yeah I got dcd
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: must have crashed
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: No, the MUD did not crash.
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Not everyone got disconnected.
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: I didn't get disconnected or anything
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: same
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: thought they finally done caught me botting
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: but im still on the loose
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh so funny, Huko!
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CuddlyCat Fenix has pulled Huko over and is performing a botcheck!
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: ah shiet
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: add an e to the end of that
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I get bot checked almost hourly by people killing me
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: No one cares, really.
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: you respond everytime i say something, so i consider you my #1 fan
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: and I love you for that, thanks friend
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You assume I'm referring to you.
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: why does my firefox run like shit in the background
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: That's a very general question and nobody will be able to answer it without knowing your system
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Maybe you just have a slow computer. Maybe you're mining bitcoin on the side. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: is there a background setting for firefox fps
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: the problem is firefox. it's mostly always shit.
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: these days internet explorer seems to run faster.
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: my pc is dope but i think it might be when i added 4 monitors
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Logrom Tech: Lol, that's quite an insult saying that IE is faster.  I guess now that you mention it, though.. 
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: they were trying to copy chrome's multiprocess architecture and after that all kinds of stuff slowed down. that's when benchmarks generally show a hit as well.
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Logrom Tech: Interesting
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: just annoying, if i have a game i can set background fps, i get nomral fps in background but on twitch/firefox i dont get the fps
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: try chrome
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I want to make an alias without it mess with custom exits. For example, there's a custom exit "knock" in the Sanguine Tavern, but that messes with my alias "knock" to cast the Knock spell.
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Is there a way to cleanly do this?
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: I'd make yer spell alias knoc instead of knock
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: shorter to type and gives differential
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: But that's me,and I'm kinda retarded, so I leave it up to your good offices to decide.
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Make an alias 'nosrslyiwanna' that sends its arg as a command   :p
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: I have an alias that I redefine when I find custom exits
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: you can have both, but one is checked as "Execute" whichs means run as script, the other is "Send to World" which means ... well, send to the world (not execute a script).
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: mis
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I really appreciate the wide range of innovative solutions presented here :P
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: from "just lop off the k", to really technical solutions involving triggers and redefined aliases
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: It really shows off how everyone has their own playing style and way of handling things - I think that's cool and creative
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: but mine was the bestest right?
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: you were first!
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: That's nothing new
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: love ya dj, but... well.  DjVoltron Tech: But that's me,and I'm kinda retarded
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: I AM THO
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: thats etched in my head now :) forever!
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Loves it.
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Who is Kelaire Tech: Don't sell yourself short DJV!
T3/r7/2020-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: nothing you didn't know if you been payin attention the last decade plus no?
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: Anyone able to recommend a free MP4 trimmer? Nothing fancy, just need to keep the first 30 of a 3 hour video
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: what is the excel shortcut to insert the $ to lock the cell reference...f4?
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: f4
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, f4
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: thx
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: can you use that inside a formula?
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: like as you type
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Use R1C1 :D
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, so =SUM($A1:A1) and then drag to the right will grow to =SUM($A1:B1) and so on
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: do not be a monster and use r1c1
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: <---used to not need a mouse, now is old
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: 80% of my work is done with excel
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: yeah i went from like 80 pct to 10 pct and ive lost all skills over time
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: certainly a perishable skill
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i went a period where i didn't hardly use it, and getting back into was... a thing
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: it's like riding a bike
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that's the exact opposite concept of a perishable skill
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: it also doesnt help that in between my long hiatus msft changed a buncha the hotkeys
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: I'm using a trigger to gage some text. Any way I can gag the blank line that comes after it as well? Some sort of regex I'm sure
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: gag*
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Why are you using triggers instead of the built in #gag command that Fiendish worked so hard on?
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: is there one? :D 
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Has been one for years.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: The gag function for scripting/plugins? Or is there an easy way to set up random single line gags?
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Have you typed "#gag" by itself yet?
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: I must be missing a plugin then
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Or "#gag help"
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: that just returns a generic no command error
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What version of AardMUSH are you using??
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Has to be OLD for you to not have it.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: r2068 :P
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Odd. It should be installed, but hold on.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: naw i got it
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: the plugin wasn't installed
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: There's also #sub, if you hadn't known about that.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yep, got it. thanks.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Quite welcome!
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh, and in regards to your original question, if that doesn't take it, there's another plugin, Omit_blank_lines, that you might look into. 
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: oh boy omitblanklines works a little TOO well lol
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: gag works well but still the multiple blank lines because I'm gagging lines from multiple commands at once.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh, yuck. Yeah, that's something that I've not ever really been able to overcome. Hmmm.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yeah now my original question makes more sense eh :D
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Hmm, gag doesn't seem to like colors very much
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh?
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: How do you mean?
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Trying to gag a line but it doesn't seem to work - I'm guessing due to colors because the others worked fine
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What line are you trying to gag? I don't recall having that issue.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: clan secret :P
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Algaru goes ooOOooOOoo at Veritheia.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, then I can't help. :(
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Unless you give a simulation of the line.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Crowley, you have any gags on lines with colors in them?
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: nevermind, it works on partial lines so v0v
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: any reason dinv report wouldn't show enchants?
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: did you refresh the item after enchanting it?
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: the covaids has gone digital?
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: also, if you gave the item to someone else to enchant it then you would need to forget the item when you get it back and then refresh
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: In other words, if you enchant it, dinv can see that and a refresh will pick up the enchant.  If someone else enchants it where you don't see it, do "dinv forget [query]" to tell dinv to ignore what it had before for the item and then a refresh will get the new values
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: oh. cool. thanks.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: will tell you how that goes after my refresh all
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: A bunch of random stuff I got enchanted so easier to just fully rebuild.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: can I change what is used to id things? like I have lore which would show res.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: for dinv
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: so instead of identify dinv would fallback to lore
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: No, dinv just uses the identify command.  It doesn't let you swap that for lore or the identify spell.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: you can always buy the identify wish
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Though you could alias identify as lore.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel goes ooOOooOOoo at Mr. Crowley.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: that might work, I didn't think of that
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: yeah I wasn't sure if that would break things. I was trying to write a cleaner report trigger so it was easier to use with a screen reader, figured I'd just piggyback on dinv and CallPlugin then pull from there. I'll try the alias, would depend on how dinv captures the data.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lykaon Tech: i can't seem to find how to unlock my Mushclient windows so that i can resize them
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: aard layout help
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lykaon Tech: many thanks
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what do yall think of this PC build? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6ZhkPn
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: why are you buying a 12-core processor?
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: if you don't plan on using all 12 cores, you'll get better performance with less cores for single-threaded applications.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: idk about 12-core. just read a review that suggested it. would use this for gaming and I hope to output to the TV 50% of the time
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torched Welding Tech: only thing might be a downside is there isn't much stuff that is optimized for 12-core yet, so you may have random compatability issues
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: more cores = better, there is one exception - when you use single threaded app - then higher clock = better
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: switch to Linux or Windows, those systems use multiple cores for a really long time
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: sure. so unless you're doing a lot of parallel work it's kind of a waste.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: this would be windows. i use a macbook for mud
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: they -enable- you to use multiple cores. your OS isn't going to need 12 cores.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you use qnx or some wind river then sure, multi cores are not needed
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: otherwise just type "ps awux" or turn on task manager
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you see more than one process - you will benefit from multiple cores
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: not really. the OS will balance threads across multiple cores. the problem is that AMD processors generally have less cache.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: how many cores should i get? 8? like this? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qryV3C/amd-ryzen-7-3800x-39-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000025box
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what is a good site to guide my choices? i have been using tomshardware
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: perfect CPU should be 1st in single thread and multi thread
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have 8 core vs 12 core with same single thread performance - then you want 12 core
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: you do not. unless you are going to do something that uses all 12 cores, you have less cache, therefore unless all of those cores are fully loaded you lose.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: looks like intel is above amd on those single thread benchmarks
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: just because you have multiple processes running does not mean that balancing them across 12 cores is going to matter.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but that is common cache - shared among all cores
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and you can always turn off your cores if you do not need them
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: which is the problem. the more cores, the less cache you have between them and the more cache hits you get as a result.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: cache misses*
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: even if u turn off the cores, the cache size stays the same, no?
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: yeah. but that means more cache per cores that are left on.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: besides do you remember Duron? 64k cache and it was more effective than higher cache CPUs
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: can you prove that that's the case with this CPU? pointing at a random example of where less cache was more effective is kind of misleading unless you can say that that is the case with this specific CPU.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ah, so you have proofs that 12 core is overall slower than 8 cores
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then I agree with you - if tests support that - get 8 core cpu
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: Please read ^. I said two things: 1) that they will have less cache per core thus leading to more cache misses (which is a pretty basic conclusion if you understand how cache eviction works), and 2) that throwing more cores at something just because you can doesn't mean it will be faster. Most things are multithreaded, the OS will balance it's workload across multiple cores. Unless you're going to fully max all cores, you save money with fewer.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: why do these companies produce so many different versions of their CPUs?
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: tldr
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so it depends
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are tasks cache intensive - and with such tasks more cores = slower
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: because different CPUs are for different things. If you're doing a lot of work that is multithreaded or you have hundreds of processes running or VMS, it makes sense to have more cores. If you're just running a desktop, you don't need all of that.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: (a), the 12-core Ryzen chips have more cache than the 8-core, and actually have _more_ L3 per core, and (2) total cache sizing is one of about 647 parameters of a chip that affect anything related to the performance, and aren't near the top.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however those are probably some corner cases - and average PC user never will encounter them
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i am reading throught the single thread benchmarks and this intel i9-9900 is crushing it but there are so many different versions of it with different suffix
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: yes, you do get more cache as your core count goes up. but again, what is the point on a desktop.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: just to give the OS more cores to slice across? Why spend the extra?
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Also, (iii), the higher core count AMD chips _also_ ship with higher clocks, so they'd be faster even on single thread loads.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: more and more games are multithreaded these days
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: main question is: Zhalut will you use only MS Word / OpenOffice and Excel ?
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: a lot of games are offloading that work to videocards though.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: if you're gaming you would get more for your money with fewer cores and a higher end video card.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cracking hashes also will be faster with higher end video card
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: do not plan to use any microsoft word/excel. i already have an evga 2080rtx ti ftw3
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I've been trying to figure out what the intended workload for this system was for the whole conversation and haven't gotten anywhere, but... it would help to know that.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: my xbox died and gonna replace it with a PC. that's why i may use the TV as an output for 50% of time
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: besides, check this: ADATA XPG SX6000 throttling
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: it is going to be strictly for gaming.  
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: personal recommendation would be fewer cores, better video card for games.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: my video card is solid :)
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: how about this build, i tuned-down the processor. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qjs8wh
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: how can I tell dinv to equip "my best fire weapon" available??
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Take a look at dinv help weapon
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: my ctrl r no longer seems to repeat commands - anyone know what i should rebind it to or where the option is?
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: if you go to macros, is ctrl+r doing something?
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Macros doesn't show Ctrl+R.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: huh. mine does for some reason.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what's yours bound to?
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Best I have is Ctrl+P recalls previous command.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: nothing.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Best I have is Ctrl+P recalls previous command.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh, it does work, haha.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: ctrl + p doesn't do anything for me. ctrl + r repeats my previous command
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You have to enable it in Keyboard preferences for Ctrl+P.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: where's keyboard preferences?
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: game->configuration->commands->keyboard pref
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Under Configure -> Commands. But it doesn't show Ctrl+R.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: ah that.. yeah, hrm.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I legit cannot find anywhere that Ctrl+R does anything.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: alright.. well I restarted mushclient and that seemed to clear it up so crisis averted?
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Sure!
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley smirks.
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eroe viciously bares his teeth!
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: is it possible to have dinv switch weapons without using the priority set?
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Read dinv help weapon. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: been reading it... i just want to change the waepon, not the priority set
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If you just want weapons to swap and none of your other eq, you can also just make a priority where you disable all locations other than your weapons
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: thanks Durel
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: trying to figure out how to do that now...
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If you do the "full" edit mode that shows all priority fields, you can see which ones to set to "1" to disable locations (it's at the very bottom).  For example: dinv priority edit psi-melee full
T3/r7/2020-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: By default, dinv only shows locations that have non-default values so to show all possible fields, just add "full" to the end of the command
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what do u guys think of this PC gaming setup? Think it will look ok using a 50" tv monitor? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RzhKgJ
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Okay, how do I make . stop gossiping.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: alias . to do something else.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: game->config->aliases. add, in alias do .*, in send do ct %1 or whatever chan you want it to go to
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: ah yeah.. 
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: easier than alias because that lets you do .*yawn and you don't have to space it.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: umm where do i find plugins for mudlet, like how to get the mapper working...
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: did blowtorch get broken?
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: no but my laptops hard drive fragged itself and i'm trying mudlet while i sort out a new one
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: are you kidding? that's awful :(
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it's been dying for a while, so i'm not surprised and everything important is backed up
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: fortunately peppermint will run off a 16GB usb stick
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: oh well that's much better to hear...
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: I asked because someone earlier said that Android's keyboard update broke blowtorch
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: think of this as motivational time to get blowtorch improved
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1998 OR2 Anaristos Tech: I added a SSD to my phone and I getting ready to script blowtorch :)
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1998 OR2 Anaristos Tech: 1 TB
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that is awesome news Anaristos
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: most of the hard work is working out how the regex is different
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: now we just need blowtorch on IoS
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1998 OR2 Anaristos Tech: well fitst I have to figure out what can be done with blowtorch
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: everything ...
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: different regex? but regex should be independent of those programs and consistent across them
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: they're not always. depends on the libraries used. there are often subtle differences.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: granted the built in trigger/alias system is limited but in plugins the sky is the limit
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1998 OR2 Anaristos Tech: db wise I meant 
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oh, yeah, well i know sqlite works
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1998 OR2 Anaristos Tech: true enough
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1998 OR2 Anaristos Tech: I am set then. sql I te and I varev old friends 
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1998 OR2 Anaristos Tech: thevlast update to oreo did break blowtorch 
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if sqlite didn't work i would have never been able to port the mushclient mapper to blowtorch, all that is still missing is a decent wait command
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1998 OR2 Anaristos Tech: Shindo, you and I  must talk soon :)
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1998 OR2 Anaristos Tech: the keyboard has problems with inser and copy/paste
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1998 OR2 Anaristos Tech: insert*
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1998 OR2 Anaristos Tech: no way to produce delays?
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1998 OR2 Anaristos Tech: a countdown trigger would work :)
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: for the wait command it would but you need to be able to generate one on the fly and in the blowtorch methods of doing things, that isn't easy
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: either that or i didn't understand half of what nocilis implemented but finding the manual before you even try reading it is a nightmare
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: how do i stop the comm window from logging to file?
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: in Mushcleint...
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rever Tech: in mush client how do you separate commands for an alias? isnt it semi colon?
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Who is Kelaire Tech: two semi-colons
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Or just newline
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Depends. If you're doing mudside aliases, then it's two semi-colons, or you start the line with one semi-colon (e.g. ;alias ls laugh;smile for the latter, or alias ls laugh;;smile for the former)
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If it's MUSHClient aliases, you can do new lines for each command, or if you're doing Execute in script, use one semi-colon.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: I'd really like to expand the Info Bar
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: it appears to be a fixed width, any ideas how it can be expanded?
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: which info bar
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: MUSHclient > View > Info Bar
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I don't think you can expand the width, but I think you can expand the depth with newlines.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: you can write custom messages to it
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Any way I can see the raw GMCP output/return when I manually execute a Send_GMCP_Packet?
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: gmcpdebug 1 will show it.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So turn that on prior to sending the packet.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: then gmcpdebug 0 to turn it off.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: someone with the showmap plugin figure out why radiance woods causes an error tia. I can't figure it out :/
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what error?
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: getting a normal dvd to play in win10 is horrible  any tips?
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: download the media package if you don't have it?
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techno Tech: get VLC
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: windows media center package?  i've tried that, vlc, and some random store app.  im close to using handbrake and ripping just to watch it.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: VLC is definitely my go-to, never had issues.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: let me try vlc again - could be codecs as veri mentioned.  thanks - sorry, been like 20+ y ears since i used a dvd but my niece has no internet, want her to watch a movie :P
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: i think its the store version missing proprietary codecs.  im kinda new to windows
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I go directly to the site, because screw the store.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: actually, i should have come here.  ugh.  going to introduce new topic which is why i even bring up win10.  lvm + luks
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: i wanted to create a partition table.  /home, /, /boot, and a few others.  but, want luks encryption.  using parted or gparted, or any other tool for te life of me i could not figure out how to create a LUKS encrypted drive w/ LVM to manage the volumes.  i literally spent 2 weeks trying and reseraching, probably a good 30+ rebuilds on one system.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: i know i could use virtual box but im ... i am a fan of path of most resistance i guess.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: using mapper, how do i get it to delay a few seconsd before moving so a mobprog can go
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: wait(3)
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: like, mapper cexit say umari;wait (3) will wait for 3 seconds before picking up again?
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Don't think there's a space between the wait and the bracket
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: but yes, that's basically it
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: no space
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: you can use it for KSC giant toss, kobaloi elevator, or whatever
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: mapper cexit_wait <time>
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that seems to be a global wait after a cexit tho
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i wanted to just wait on this one
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: cexit_wait gives you more time to map your NEXT cexit
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: wait() puts a pause in your actual cexit/speedwalk command
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thanks guys, i'll quit f'ing up the swalk through umari now :)
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Princess Alison beams a smile at Scars.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: related... when i recall, it wants to go through my evel imms portal instead of through the aardamulet... can i prioritize paths?
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: evil ims*
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: screw it, it doesn't bother me that much
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: you can put a lockexit on it
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i guess i could delete the cexit to take me back to recall from that portal
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: since it's useless anyway
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: cexit seems to be prioritized
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I usually suggest lockexits for "forcing" mapper not to take certain routes.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: make the other one your bounceportal?
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevLord Tech: I switched to the client on the site. Decided I prefered a simple terminal. How do i revert the changes the client makes to my settings? IE now map has map begining and map end tags
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you prefer a client with fewer creature comfort features and no pathway to having them?
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevLord Tech: I don't see them in 'config'
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Really just need 'tags off'
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: but yeah, I don't understand why you'd rather have LESS features than full features, but to each their own.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevLord Tech: thanks! And yeah I don't really use the features and it just takes up more screen space.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: he named himself DevLord come on
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevLord Tech: haha and that ^
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Honestly, you can disable a lot of the features you don't use while not losing out on others you may use.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can turn the group window off, for example.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevLord Tech: that is a fair point. But there are a few things that annoy me. such as the scroll bar being independant from the console window. And the input field being independant of the window. And a few other nitpicks that really arn't bad but.. Idk I never click on the node map because I prefer to never touch the mouse.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And if you're looking for simple, you can use PuTTY, TT+, of any of the other less graphical clients.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevLord Tech: yeah that is what I am using now is putty
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevLord Tech: though I'm probably going to code a client for this because I would love a few features that the other does not have
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Also, I'm with you - I don't like using the mouse for gameplay, so I never click on the map, but it's good to see where I'm going, and what rooms are around.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: at least go to cMUD so you can create scripts
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah putty does it too
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What features are lacking?
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: code them for mushclient and share
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You may be mistaken in the lack of features.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Plus, MUSHClient is routinely maintained.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevLord Tech: just some ideas. For instance binding n e w s with the arrow keys
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That can be done.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: really
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevLord Tech: though to be fair i didn't look into it much
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Obviously not. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevLord Tech: I just want to make a pretty UI XD
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can bind commands to pretty much any key you want.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I personally use the numpad for my directional movements, though.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: you usually would bing keypad instead of arrow for movemtn
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: As do many others.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i found scripting in cMUD (previously zMUD) to be very easy and relatively intuitive for simple things
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i haven't even tried with aardclient
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: seems to have what i "need" or someone made a plugin for it
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevLord Tech: another goof one would be to take all the room maps you get and stitch them together to make a a large map
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I was CMUD/zMUD for years. Then I switched to MUSH. :p
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Er, that's what the mapper does?
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevLord Tech: I am pretty new XD
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: for example, the mapper in aardclient is hard to down play how absolutely amazing it is and easy to use
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The gmcp mapper creates one big map for each area.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevLord Tech: well guess I need to poke around more in those. I like coding my own solutions alot before even trying other things XD I'm a bit hands on like that XD
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i like using a solution that's been vetted by numerous users :P
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: No one faults you for that. It's a great process for learning.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Can't learn if you don't dive in.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i learn how to drive the car, not make it
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers with Scars about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: the great developers always show their true prowess by doing what's already been done
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevLord Tech: indeed haha But I just like doing things myself. I have a massive empire of code at this point and have learned alot XD
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley beams a smile at DevLord.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I'll stop reinventing the wheel, when other people stop making heptagonal wheels.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: There are a few people here who have built their own clients, too.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: great. look at what's already been done, find something that hasn't, do that instead, share, and be useful
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: building Mud clients is su much 80s
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Insinuating that someone's chosen activity is archaic is so... well, I can't count back that far.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DevLord Tech: haha I'm too young to understand how '80s' it is
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: in MUSH, how do we hide windows on plugin uninstall (seems to get stuck visible sometimes). Is the way to do it in OnPluginDisable ?
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yep. WindowShow or something, set it to false.
T3/r7/2020-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: WindowDelete
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: How do I make power projection work with my spellup plugin?
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: what's the best way from plugin land to grab a list of all mobs and players in a room? is there something in one of the stock plugins I could piggyback off of?
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Nothing stock. You'll have to create it yourself using the roomchar tags.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: roomchar tags? is that part of gmcp?
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: no, it's one of the tag options under tags
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Basically, it starts {roomchars} and ends {/roomchars} as a block of people/mobs in the room.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: oh nods. I see that now. perfect, thanks.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KFBR392 Limunious Tech: whats the command to resect aard layout?
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KFBR392 Limunious Tech: reset even
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: aard layout reset
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: not a question, but whoever decided to design a job application website with many text boxes on a page that need to be filled out + a session timeout deserves to spend the rest of their career researching Outlook message rule filter complaints from non-technical staff or other IT punishment
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: that is the worst
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: there something good to trigger on or some way of keeping track of mobs that died?
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: What do you mean?
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Do you mean a trigger that happens every time a mob dies?
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: yeah. the death messages are all so different.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: "You receive * experience points."
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: And, "You don't receive * experience points." if you do noexp a lot.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can use the exp line if all you care about is if a mob died, but if you're wanting to know WHICH mob died, sorry, that's a bit harder.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Princess Alison nods at Mr. Crowley.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I use that exp line to trigger invis/hide after killing a mob.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: oh. actually that works. I was afraid skill improvements would trigger that, but you only see bonus experience for those
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: awesome thanks.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Princess Alison beams a smile at Eroe.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Anyone have a good way to set up power projection to work with winklegold spellup?
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Apparantly Opera's browser has a built in free vpn, anyone know if that's worth a damn or should I renew my paid one?
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Thanks for all the great tips.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I couldn't tell you. I don't use Opera's VPN. Firefox also has a VPN. I use PureVPN.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: That's what I'm lookin for, what people use and if they have exp with opera or others. thanks.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, I told you as much the last time you brought up VPNs.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: DjVoltron depends what you  mean by worth a damn
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Won't get me fined or arrested.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If you're not doing anything illegal, nothing to worry about, right?
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Never said I wasn't.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: The hell else do you need a vpn for?
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: privacy
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: In my opinion, I'd go for the actual VPN instead of a browser-based.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: and is 50 a year a decent rate for that?
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: if all you do to protect your privacy is use a vpn and nothing else no, might as well not use it.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's not a bad price, depending on the company.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Your Daddy DjVoltron nods at Intuition.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Thank you.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: umm, think it's privatevpn.com
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: that looks right
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: PureVPN is $70 a year, but I feel it's worth it myself.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: is there a way to see current pups in GMCP? I don't see it on wiki
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: there should be a way to capture that, and lots of other info, from score or whois.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: sure, but that requires gagging the player's whois, grabbing it and then ungagging. it's doable, just would be preferable to have the stuff easily obtainable.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: eh, im more or less resistant to that kind of spam.  and my client doesnt do gmcp, so ... im cool with it :p
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: hmm, i wonder how hard it would be to write a wrapper to take visible info, and feed it into the gmcp subsystem...
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Droki Tech: Is there a mud-side command to see room IDs, or is the hook for the aardclient mapper invisible to the player?
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: I'm not sure if this is a mush function or mud function but gmcpdebug will let you see raw gmcp data.
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: gmcpdebug 1 for on, 0 for off
T3/r7/2020-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: or if you're using mush, you could do something like \\\require "tprint" tprint(gmcp("room.info"))     ---and you don't have to turn on debug info
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: does anyone know if there is a plugin that is like a world clock?
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: i thought crowley had a clock
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: think that is only for seasons isn't it?
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: the aard timer? shows the respawn timer of all zones that you've been in?
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: my idea is it would list like your local timezone compared to the mud timezone 
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: realtime not mudtime
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: could just use realtime and then compare it to your time?
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: something like that but maybe you can put in other timezones like pacific or one of the other ones
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: for example if I am checking for winds timer it shows mud time but then I need to calculate when that time is for me and that's too much math :P
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: dont know if someone has one around =/ could be something i can look at when bored (procastinating on updating hadar.ninja :P)
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: would be nice
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: like was thinking what time is it in australia :P 
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: depends on what part of aus
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: can you just shoot me a tell with the info so i can refrence it
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: well that tooo :P
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: ok 
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: you know make more scripts with hadarmagic :P
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Does gquest_start on the sound pack sound for all gquests or just ones you can compete in
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: When I change to a different font, the table of trains produced by "train" gets all wonky and the values are in different locations.
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: How do I fix this?
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you need to find a fixed width font
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Ah, I see.
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if i recall correctly some of them refer to themselves as mono spaced or something like that
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: how do I input a "script" into the command line in mush?
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: \\\Note("hello world")
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: Thanks... \\\ it is.
T3/r7/2020-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: you can change that. game->configure->script
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: any dcs
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: why cant i access my vpn while playing
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: had it multiple times. why not now?
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: cuz i ate it...
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: probably
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: sry munchies...
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: call you the cookie monsta
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: i am! :D
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: anyway i can still use my vpn?
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: what you just gave us is the equivalent of "my car doesn't start, how do I fix it." I highly doubt that Aard is conflicting with your VPN, and there are soooo many factors to whether or not VPN connects and works.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: and there ya have it, im scott free 
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I'm not really sure what info to give you. what OS? are you using OpenVPN? do you get an error message?
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: fixed it
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: How do I make the text on my main output window wrap?
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: It keeps going off the screen
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: pagezige might help
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: enable.wrap around
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: in mushclient, go to config (alt+enter) then appearance->output
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: wrap output at column number right?
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: How do I know how many columns is my miniwindow?
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: method 1 is echo 123456789-..... and count
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: alright
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: or you can try clicking the button below that that says size to width but i'm no expert
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: that one doesn't work
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: thanks for the help shindo
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: then you are left with the good old counting method
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: 123456789123456789123456789123456789123456789123456789123456789123456789123456789123456789123456789123456789
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: oops
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I meant to echo that.....
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: lol its like the matrix in here
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: add - between 9 and 1
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: lol, i was about to question my sanity
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Princess Alison snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Thanks for the tip, deuter :)
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: actually that's from Shindo:  123456789-
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah, instead of 0, for ten, it makes it easier to see a visual clue
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: 0h
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: although the 0Xf reading people would suggest using letters between and be able to quickly count it
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: easier to count , harder to spot
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: just use 2 lines: headers with       10          20          30          40 , and next line with 12345..
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: just need some editor with column mark to prepare
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: It works. Thanks Shindo.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you're welcome
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: And thanks Deuter too :) Appreciate it deeply.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: What is the lifespan of a new GPU?
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Like is it even worth it buying an expensive GPU, if the thing will die on you in only 5ish years.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: But if you keep your PC temperature down, I guess it can prolong GPU lifespan.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah, the cooler you can keep your hardware the longer it lasts, iirc every 20 degrees C you can drop the temp doubles the lifespan
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Nice!
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Droki Tech: there are components that doesn't really matter for. mosfets are happy to be hot as can be, you can keep your mobo vrm toasty and it'll last as long as can be
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah but it is typically the capacitors and stuff that don't like running hot
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: also a constant temp stops repeated expansion and shrinkage which also helps lifespan
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Droki Tech: and at the same time, a gpu chillin at 30c idle and 65c when pushing games is gonna last years and years, long enough for the tech to wear out before the components do
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Droki Tech: my cpu never gets above 70c even when stress testing, i strongly doubt it will fail before it becomes obsolete and it's time for a different model, so you can extend the lifespan by dropping temp but unless your temps are unreasonable it's likely not worth the effort
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i still have a vodoo 2 that works, just need a machine with the right slots for it
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Cool! I will have a very strong GPU, but mostly play older games, so the load won't be hectic all the time, also I will cap all games to 60 fps to reduce load, and make sure to buy a minimal of 2 extra fans foe my PC.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer goes ooOOooOOoo at Sheriff Shindo.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer nods at Droki.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: I remember Voodo lol.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: I might have something for you
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faithful Ruhamah rapidly nods twice at Sheriff Shindo, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Droki Tech: i wouldn't stress too much about capping to 60fps to reduce load or anything. run whatever your display can handle. i'm a pretty big proponent of good airflow though, because with the right set up you can run fans at lower speeds and make less noise, which is an actual real benefit for the person sitting next to the computer
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: I've got an older gen1 AMD Athalon board sitting around
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer nods at Droki.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Droki Tech: my computer has 9 fans, which at first glance sounds like a completely silly number, but I really can't hear it most of the time, and the positive pressure means I never have to clean anything except the filters. thinking about airflow when you build is a good idea, you should definitely do that.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i wonder if i still have my original copy of windows 95, thats about the right era for vodoo 2
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: OS2 Warp!
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: I've got an ISO of that, and it's still pretty good
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: This will be my first really fast gaming PC I will buy in like 11 years, the GPU is almost half the price of the PC tower itself, I am just scared after 3 years the GPU will go poof.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: But I want it badly lol, so I guess will have to buy a few extra fans.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: hey im having an issue with my plugins someone said, any idea? they gave me this much info about it
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: do you by chance use ktracker?
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: huko, please start from the begining, who said you are having issues with which plugins?
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I am not, I dont have any trackers
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I do not know, an Imm told me to "fix your tracker", I asked what she meant, and she told me not to use plugins if I dont know how they work
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: are you using the fake channel plugin?
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: im not sure, theyre helping me, sec
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: the fake channel plugin was actually what fixed the issue
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: glad to hear that
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: has anybody used headless cms for content management
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I used one on a client app I was working on. was easier to go headless and let the IOS app render however it wanted than any other way.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fruitie Midgard Tech: anyone able to help with some DINV issues re: Aard gear?
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I can try, but I'm still trying to learn myself.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: What're your issues?
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fruitie Midgard Tech: I have done a build, but when I wear my set for my level it is ignoring all aard gear.  
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: What command are you using to wear your set?
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: are you using a set? like dinv set wear name level?
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: first thing i try is refresh all when it gets weird
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fruitie Midgard Tech: dinv set wear ranger 50
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Try "dinv set wear ranger"
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: without any arguments
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: if that doesn't work, try "dinv priority edit ranger full" and turn on the flags you want.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Also, since you are level 30, wearing a set with level 50 gear probably won't do what you want.  I'd recommend just leaving the level off.  That's more for debugging if you want to check what you would have worn at an earlier level.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: By default, dinv set wear [...] will find gear for your current level
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: he's t2 though, so he can wear 50?
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fruitie Midgard Tech: still ignoring aard
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakami Tech: if you dinv analyze list is your priority complete?
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: t2 is 20 at 0
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakami Tech: and do you keep your aard gear in an ignored bag?
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fruitie Midgard Tech: I have not ignored anything so no.  Doing an analyze right now
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'd need to check, but I think dinv handles the tier conversion internally.  I guess try it both with 30 and 50 and see :P  Regardless, there isn't a good reason to try to pick your level when the defaults do what you want.  That's why I don't remember which way it's implemented :P
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If the aard gear is in a bag that is owned by someone other than you, then dinv won't touch it by default
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fruitie Midgard Tech: but analyze shows no Aard gear
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is it your spouse's gear in a bag owned by them?
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fruitie Midgard Tech: there we go.  It is owned by the wife.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fruitie Midgard Tech: my gear, her bag. 
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Oh, just move it to another bag that you own and dinv will happily use it if you refresh 
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: which one?
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: dinv is a bit weird with owned stuff sometimes, yeah
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Kind of miss Papaya. Used to be good friends, but she hasn't logged on in forever, heh.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: The only requirement is that it can't be in a bag that you don't own since you (normally) can't even access a bag owned by someone else.  The one exception is a spouse's container but dinv doesn't treat that differently (for now)
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fruitie Midgard Tech: ok. Swapping out now.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fruitie Midgard Tech: that got it.  Thanks all
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Nice!  Let me know if you have any other issues. :)
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: How do you disable fullscreen mode in MUSHclient? I accidentally triggered it somehow
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: try ctrl+alt+f
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Thanks Eroe, you're the best
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I used to have a tick timer in the bottom right of my screen, but for some reason it's been replaced by a "Waiting to quest" bar. What can I do to show the tick timer again?
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I'm using winkle's tick timer plugin
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: tick
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: sorry - there's a command, trying to find it.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: it may be hidden under other windows
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: Aardwolf can haz ipv6?
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: thanks veritheia - it was in fact hidden under other windows. I did a little rejiggering and it's cool now.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Veritheia :D
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: My map window isn't centered. Here's a picture of what I'm talking about. https://ibb.co/S0HdGcy
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: As you can see, the rooms themselves are sort of squeezed into the bottom right of the map, and there's a huge blank space on the top left.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Is there a way to center it so that the map doesn't squeeze to the bottom right and get cut off by the edges
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: not sure if thats the best website to share pics lot of malware can be there
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: No worries - I'll use imgur then
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: https://imgur.com/a/AsHR3dw
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Try that. It should show how the map is screwed up.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Unfortunately, there isn't.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's based on the map output, and triggers off that.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: ah, darn.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: My screen is small, so in order to fit all my miniwindows in, I have to keep things compact and cramped.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Because map output has blank lines before the start of the actual map, the minimap captures that, too.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: you can scroll in and out on your map if ya want more shown
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Wrong map, Huko.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: Crowley, why S&D sends the "k *" to the world. instead to the client?
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: okay
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Fuel: I don't know, never looked at that.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Another note - sometimes my communication log automatically scrolls down to keep up with the current conversation, and sometimes it doesn't. Is there anyway to force it to keep updating/scrolling down so I don't have to repeatedly manually do it?
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It was probably done that way to avoid interfering with other aliases and creating a loop of some sort.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Alison: As long as the scroll bar is all the way at the bottom, it should always scroll down to keep up with it. Otherwise, it goes into a "paused" state because it thinks you want to see what is currently on the screen.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: exception would be another style of initiating combat. S&D should use the usual 99% time
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So if you find it stuck, you have to scroll all the way down.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: should use the user's "k" alias
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I suppose I could modify for that.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: i think it would make sense... cant see any side effects myself
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I can.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But that's because I know what people are stupidly capable of.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Huko peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Go away.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I wanna be as loved as Huko some day
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I mean, I can make that happen. Go away, Eroe.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eroe beams with pride.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jegeas flips head over heels.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Eroe - I keep wanting to type 'error'. And Huko's name... just reminds me of a cat vomiting.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I'll take error over puko.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Huko pukes.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Eroe.
T3/r7/2020-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Emrys Tech: hola, does anyone know how I can get mush to let me highlight my screen to paste without it popping up an error code that its unable to copy to clipboard?
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Hey Fiendish.. why aren't all ctrl/alt+ combinations are available for macros? :( 
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: some are taken up by windows
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: macros are limited
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: or mush itself
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: and what Eroe said
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: like ctrl+alt+f
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: you need to make your spouse be iac won't.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: some macros I can set by the accelerator function but they don't save booo
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: put them in your mcl file
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: under the script section.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: I did - it threw an error and deleted it
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: accelerators have to be set every time you start mushclient. put them into a plugin or something
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: or even just create an alias that you trigger on login or something if all else fails (which it shouldn't)
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: what error? there are key combos you just can't set, the windows accelerator API won't let you, likely it was one of those
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yeah I'll just put it on a trigger.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: you shouldn't have to. the script section gets evaluated when the plugin (or world) is loaded.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: worst case you could just put it on one of the callbacks for a plugin.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: is there a way to get dinv to ignore quiver slot when using dinv set if you're not a pranger
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: with the search and destroy plugin, what is the number in the red circle on the top left?
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedi Kandorr Tech: the lev of your cp, i think
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: It should be whatever level you are
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's the level you took your cp at.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If you're not on a cp, it'll say off.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ah, yes, well, that's useful, ish I guess.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: it's a very nice circle
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedi Kandorr Tech: what's the up arrow for?
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it is, and I think that this makes it worth while
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: TNL you want to noexp at.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ah that's the level at which noexp is switched on
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedi Kandorr Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: took me ages to work that out too
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: perhaps I am think
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Swalec: Which version are you using?
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: aardthridi
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You should update to mine. That one is way out of date, and is no longer maintained.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: first google hit though
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's pretty much the same version with some improvements on it.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: no thats the one on the right, on the left is the level you requested it at. if its red you cant take another cp at this level, if its green you can
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Finger me for the link. :P It also has an 'snd update' alias that will automatically update it when you type it and there is a new version.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: where can we see what was changed\added after an update?
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I usually post a note, but in future versions, I will probably add a change log.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it must be better, though, it's got a bigger version number
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Fixed a couple bugs, added a couple options. Need to fix one bug with sort, though.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: where is th
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: is there a help button?
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: xhelp
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's a constant work in progress, with improvements being made when I can. I also take suggestions, such as the suggestion to hide the output (well, toggle) from the main window, etc.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: cool, will try it
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But I'll be adding a readme maybe this weekend, or next, depending on what school does to me this weekend. Got an online group project to do, bookcases to build, and a few other things. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Powdered Milkweed Tech: can I get some of that motivation Crowley?
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Who said I was motivated?! :P
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: how do you set the kill command?
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: xset kk/qk/ak, whichever you want to use. Follow that with the command.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So xset ak kill
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: For example.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: Crowley, you use execute with ak, right?
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: nope, doesn't look like it
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: No, though I can make that change.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The biggest problem will be someone who creates an alias that loops back on itself, thus crashing MUSHclient with an infinite loop.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: that's a problem but I blame Alan Turing for it
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I wouldn't see it as your problem personally
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I may make it a toggle. 'xset execute' --> Are you sure you're not an idiot? If so, xset execute confirm.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well I normally initiate kills with a spell command using my own alias
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Since it's a quick change, I'll make that change tonight after I get off work and then you can snd update to use it.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I light the hightlighing of the mob. And the version number is cool.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, to be fair, Starling wrote most of the code for the version. I just took over it after she got nuked to ensure that it remains legal.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It was why Thridi made a fork of it, too.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, it seems to work nicely
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: thank you for taking the time with it
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley smiles happily.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So, out of curiousity, those who use S&D, what's your preferred "quick kill" option? Do you use "ak", "qk", or "kk"?
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: how are they different?
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: They all execute the same command.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Just trying to figure out what people use and don't use.
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torched Welding Tech: I usually don't use any quick kill command, outside of 'kk' on rare occasion
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: any way to see what pieces will be worn at a specific level?
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: while being too low level for it
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: with dinv?
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If you are using dinv, look at "dinv help analyze"
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: yeah, I usually use dinv analyze
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It can make guesses based on what your spellups will likely be at each level
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Oh, it guesses spellups too? So it tracks remorts and stuff then
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: oh wow. nice. thanks
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: That is cool - dinv continues to surprise me
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It takes snapshots of your spellups as you level and then uses a weighted average of your history of spellups at each level to estimate them going forward
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: so the longer you use it, the more accurate your estimates will be -- it learns your behavior
T3/r7/2020-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I am seriously impressed - every time I think dinv can't get any smarter, it does
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Checking the "omit from output" box in MUSHclient causes both the line that sets off the trigger and the commands the trigger sends to be ommitted. Is there a way to omit the latter but not the former? Will simply making it send to execute instead of world be sufficient?
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Specifically - I want to invis/hide/spellup after killing a mob. To accomplish this, I've set a trigger to do those things after receiving the "You receive X experience points" line in my client. I want to continue seeing those lines so I know how much XP I'm getting, but I don't want to be spammed by invis/hide/spellup commansd repeatedly when I'm killing a bunch of mobs.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: princess you have normal echo on?
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: What do you mean normal echo?
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: when you enter a command normally and hit enter, does it also appear in your mud output?
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: yes, it does
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: It helps me identify what I've done wrong when I mistype a command, and helps me log my actions in general
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: So I keep it on :)
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DJ Pon3 Starky Tech: I mean, you could capture it and echo it? It's a dumb hack but it's too late for me to think of a real solution right now
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: you can send to script and use SendNoEcho("c invis")
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Thanks, Veritheia- I'm going to try that.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: So just select "script" in the send to field, and then SendNoEcho("command"), right?
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Thanks - I will try it now.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Princess Alison hugs Veritheia.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: It works! 
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Thank you so much
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: and thanks to everyone else for helping out! <3
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugoplutten Tech: is there any way to check the ping or connection to the mud? Its quite laggy for me today
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Is it necessary to take it easy for a while on new GPU, or can you play full out for hours on end?
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: is z390 8 and 9 gen?
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: what's the command to run to your gq mobs?
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Which S&D are you using
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: gq check ?
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Crowley does not have a gquest feature
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Pwar does though
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Who is Kelaire Tech: Crowley's overlays your CP with teh active GQ on GQ Check
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You're wrong, Huko.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: As usual.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: sorry im wrong crowley has added a gquest feature
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You're wrong, yet again.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I didn't add anything. It was already there.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: crowley has infact not added and added the feature
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Crowley is in the movie called, The Crow :P
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Now we just need a mob database like Pwar's smileyface
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: {Ping to aardmud.org Min: 64ms Avg: 65ms Max: 67ms}
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I'll be sure to make sure you can never use it, though, Huko.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: My favorite line from the original story of "Alice in Wonderland"... "I don't think--" - "If you don't think, then you shouldn't speak."
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: What will happen if you use a 9th gen I3 CPU on 8th gen motherboard?
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: nothing
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Raoh winks suggestively.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i think 9th and 8th is same mobo
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: It won't run at all? I am just curious, since ai am getting 9th gen cpu and motherboard.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: if its the same socket it wil lrun
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer goes, "OK".
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: may need to update it but itll be fine
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: lga 1151 iirc
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: yeah 8 and 9 are same
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: 390 mobo needed
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: lots of ppl cheap out on mobos
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: usually they first to go too lol
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: yeah speciially since you need a new mobo for newest cpus
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: make sure you know how to update the bios and if its country locked etc
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: The PC people at the shop wouldn't be noobs I suspect, when I say I want a motherboard with the 9th gen i3 CPU, they should pick a 9th gen motherboard for mez but I will check and make sure.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: use the wrong update and ur in for a world of hurt
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: yeah thye should be fine, just make sure its s z390 if youre doing intel
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: ah, well, putting a pc together is super easy
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: my 1st pc build i used a cheap mobo    never do that again
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: get a better mobo with the money you save from having someone else build it
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: socket and chipset and memory
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: its grown-up legos basically
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: off 30
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: legos are harder than building a pc
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: true story
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: legos you need imagination, computer you dont, unless you wanna be a cable god
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: pcpartpicker will also tell you if your components are compatible
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: I am more expert when doing stuff in Windows as when work in the box, I can do the normal stuff like hook up drives, clear cmos battery, toggle bios to perfection, but when I have just a motherboard staring at me, don't ask me to hoop up all that wires, especially hd light, start button etc.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: its literally like an ikea shelf
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: just the product is a bit more expensive and complicated looking
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: THey come with a book for that stuff, RG.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: or just google
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Since it varies by motherboard manufacturer, it typically comes with instructions.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: eh, it's really not. there are some annoying parts to building a pc, and making it sound like it's super easy is misleading and will push people into spending money when they might not have the info they need.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: what is the hard part
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: building is pretty easy...read the manual...and don't break the CPU pins or the jumpers.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: hardest part is putting those things in the mobo, i dont know the technial name
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: them silly pins
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: so you're going to stand here and tell us how easy it is without even having the proper names for what you're talking about? :)
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: no one cares about names
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Nods, but to scared I mess up. Luckily if I buy all the PC parts for a complete PC, the PC guys can put it all together for free line in 60 minutes, I am always just paranoid they don't put enough paste on cpu.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: If you don't even know what the parts are, you certainly shouldn't be assembling your own machine.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Huko does that. He thinks he knows so much, but he really doesn't even know his own ass from a hole in the ground.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: why do you need to know the name of the pins you put in the mobo
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: He literally thinks they're the same thing.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: If you do, a typical basic PC build is only a few parts with only one way to plug them in.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: you just match up what the intructions say
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: lots of people struggle for example with applying thermal paste, getting the heatsync on, wiring up their front panels, wiring up the video cards properly. but yeah, what he said. it's not exactly hard, but you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: it's pretty important Huko
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: the names?  how is that important when the instructions tell you what goes where
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: A->A, who cares what A is
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eroe boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: I got experience in jumpers, lol.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer nods at Eroe.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should rather fear they will use cheap thermo paste, usually just a droplet is enough - it is just used to fill micro gaps
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: yeah but a lot of people overapply.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: I think I underapplied on my i9 sadly. :(
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: unless this is your retirement pc, or youre overflowing with money, learn to build it
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: I need to redo it I think
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: a lot of water coolers come with the paste ready to go too
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Overapplying or non-even distribution is just as bad as underapplying.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: for the nubes
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: learning to build it also includes learning the names of the things you're talking about. You can also get shops to do builds for you reasonably cheap.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: They should put nice paste on, because I will give them nice amount of money for my gaming rig lol, I am like a premium customer, and should get good paste :P
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: off 30
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Ya'll forget the * when you turn the channel off.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: lets be real, the hardest part of building a pc is DOA parts and trying to figure out the problem with the assumption everything is good
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Though for the last couple machines I've built I've gone with a cooler that came with cheap pre-applied paste. I'm not buying superheated i9s, so it's been well within spec.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: you're not a premium customer if you're buying 4 year old parts for cheap, retro
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: anyway back to work I go, thanks for the laughs Huko, you never fail to make yourself look stupid in public.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: i don't do it often
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Eroe.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I gotta get back to work myself.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: no personal attacks, specially on tech channel
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: My GPU isn't even a year old from release date..
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: you know better than that
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It wasn't a personal attack.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You do make yourself look stupid.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: He didn't say you WERE stupid. Just that you make yourself look it.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: irony: the first to resort to personal attacks is the first to whine about something that isn't a personal attack.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: its only me that gets yelled at smileyface
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What's funny is Huko's a hypocrite. He's personally attacked people many times before, including calling them retards, so...
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: yall all adults and this is a game
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Raoh yawns.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: I would appreciate less of the personal garbage, it's getting old.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: everyone relax lol
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Robbo.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But yes, back to keying license plates! So much joy... still 6 hours to go and I just had lunch. :(
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Is 65 degrees good for a GPU under load? What should I aim for? I wanna buy a few extra RGB fans also.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: 65 is fine yea
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Cool :)
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Depends... F or C? :P
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Or K?
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Lol, C.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If it's C, you're in trouble.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: if you could get it down to 65K you'd be rocking
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: 50 seems very very good, for a wind fan only rig.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer goes ooOOooOOoo at Gaelehad.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaury Tech: kalvin
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: dont listen to these guys
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: 60c is good
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: just reread history. be careful adding too many fans to the mix unless you know exactly what you are doing. you could mess up the airflow in the case and then more fans leads to things getting higher temp.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer goes, "OK".
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: 6ish fans will be amazing.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: uh. why?
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: 3 in front, 2 in back, 2 in top. lmao
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: 3 front, 3 top, 1 back
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: have you bothered to figure out the airflow for that? also it really depends which way the fan moves.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: I must first see how my Glass side panel RGB lighting gaming case design looks, before I can really start planning fan setup.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: yeah it depends on case
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: You want more cool air coming through, but then you also want your exhaust fans to capture that airflow and vent it back out again. if you get too many fans going in the wrong direction you'll end up with negative air flow.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: negative airflow means that you'll have less actual airflow coming in, and so all that cool air won't absorb the heat from your components.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: this is the most negative way to say, just make sure the airflow direction is correct
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Nods, I think I am capable of setting up airflow correctly :P
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: eroe there's videos online showing that putting air in any direction makes barely any difference
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: all in, all out, and different combos from different sides etc
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: depending also on your case, it makes building pc easy as well
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: i think it was from ltt, pretty interesting watch
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i got this overpriced h700i, and it was so simple to build in
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: More wind in more important then wind going out?
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: yeah, basically that's it.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Cool! tnx
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: it depends on what you want
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: you do want some exhaust, but just don't end with negative and then it comes down to what Raoh said
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: more in means more dust in
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: more out means more dust out
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: but more in means sliiiiightly cooler
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: and visa versa
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: you can get fans with filter screens.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: it still gets in though, as we all know
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Raoh shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: only thing important is your LEDs
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: and really it's not hard to just pop open your case and clean it out
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Hmm, something to think about.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: but that said
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLX54ounENY
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: they ran the fans for one year
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: I should buy a can of air..
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I still think you could try building it yourself, its a fun experience
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: unless you just seriously want to blow money, Raoh was correct when he said it only really does make a slight difference. so unless you're just trying to spend more for some reason, you would be just fine without the extra fans. invest that money in a better CPU cooler and some good thermal paste, that will make a much higher difference.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: and when you upgrade or do things, youll feel good
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: build that shit on a table with cardboard underneath
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Not gonna try it myself, since I want it to build fast and without problems :P
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: basic thermodynamics actually shows that forcing air in to the case would raise the temperature
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: only problem i ever had was my mobo being DOA -----___---
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: The PC shop shouldn't take more then 90 minutes honestly to make my 1080P Ultra gaming rig :)
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: not all the way dead, but dead enough to make it hard to find the issue
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: U L T R A
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: well, if you... you know, thought of pc building as more than just throwing some legos together to look cool, you would have done a test on your mobo prior to even putting it in the case.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: mise well just look into prebuilds, unless ya wanna support ya pc shop
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: All games till 2020 on Ultra 1080P with very nice frames :D woohoooo!
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: that's always the first part of builds. makes it easy to know if MOBO is DOA or not.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: pc building IS just throwing some legos togethere. he's just mixing different legos there :)
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: eroe thinks hes some sort of a god cause he can build a pc, when its literally things 12 year olds do now a days
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I occasionally leave random pc parts on the floor to mimic legos on the way to the bathroom at 3 in the morning. great fun.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: I always build open box mobos from my pc shop at like 10% discount or whatever, as long as they'll test em in front of me
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: save some cash, get a better mobo, meh
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: im with ya
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: with pc parts, a build fee could get ya significant better pirce
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: piece
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: get a i5 instead of i3 or something
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raoh Tech: amd is where its at
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Raoh shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Just to be safe, I can play very graphic intensive games on Ultra from the first day for hours on end, and don't have to take it easy with my new GPU? I am pretty sure my GPU temperature will be taken care of.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: nah ya dont need to be nice to it
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer goes, "Whee!"
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: im pretty sure theyre prob tested before sent out anyways
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer goes, "OK".
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: anyone had much luck with disk shelves? specifically smaller ones? My home server has 8 tb (4 4 tb drives and then 2 ssd drives for work), but I'm running out of bays. was looking to get an 8-bay disk shelf and then populate that with 8 tb platter drives, but most of what I'm seeing are 24-bay SAS systems.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: My GPU have 2 90 mill fans that spin in oppis directions to make air in middle more forceful and less turbulent iirc, it also have 3D active fan that switches of my 2 fans on idle and low intensity games, and only use it when needed :D
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: the alternative is I just spring for a nas from IXSystems, but they start going up in price as you add more bays because they upgrade the processor which I don't really need. The bonus is I could just install an SFP card and have 10 gbit connectivity across my switch.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Also a copper pipe that runs across GPU core etc and Vram.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: Haven't done it myself but all my researched indicated Synology was one of the better brands for that type of scenario. Seemed fairly affordable too
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: yeah, I've heard a lot of good things about them. I was mostly thinking a disk shelf because I could run ZFS on it and directly access everything without having to do it over SMB or NFS from the server, which is where a lot of data generation comes from anyway.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: but likely with a 10 gbit connection it wouldn't matter.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: likely hah. And you can still keep your internal drives for what you need faster
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eroe nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: awesome, I'll look into them more. it's a good alternative option.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: I looked at my budget...and my filled bays due to raid array...and just gave up on the raid and said oh well if it does
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: dies I mean
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eroe nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Another thing to consider...I bought a 24-bay server that I used for backups.  Then one day I looked at how much I was paying to power the darn thing each year :P  Now I just turn it on twice a year to do backups to it and I bought two Synology smaller systems for daily use.  It was cheaper in the long run.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: onestly I'd probably be fine just upgrading the internal drives to 8 tb, but I'd somehow have to swap all the data from one over to the other and that would require I stop a ton of workload and pull ssds, then put two 8 tb drives in, stripe them, then pull out the others and set it up to mirror.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: yeah my server sucks up so much power. If I only used it for data I wouldn't care as much.
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shellfishie Tech: hi, I just started my Mushclient and suddenly the output is all messed up and I saw this error message: GMCP DATA ERROR: C:\Users\User\Desktop\Aard\MUSHclient\lua\json\decode.lua:91: Invalid JSON data
T3/r7/2020-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shellfishie Tech: does anyone have any idea what happened and what I can do please?
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugoplutten Tech: anyone know if I can make part of an alias execute a command and the rest send to world?
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: make 2 aliases
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugoplutten Tech: T_T 
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: change to script mode and use Execute
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugoplutten Tech: oh ill try that thx
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but if you use tech or you can just use execute mode from the drop down, a lot less complicated
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oops... sorry about that aweful sentence ... you can see where my mind wasn't
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugoplutten Tech: maybe a silly question but can I gag the output text when using an alias in mushclient? For instance I dont want to show the 'deposit all' text when I go to aardhotel
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugoplutten Tech: omit from output didnt work 
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: check options on the right side
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WhatsApp KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone ever get in touch with pwar about mudbin code?  im too lazy to rewrite the color parser even thoguh its probably easy... but id host it if i can get it
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: hi koopa
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WhatsApp KoopaTroopa Tech: hi
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: i have a color parse in my url
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: javascript-based color parser
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WhatsApp KoopaTroopa Tech: hrmm... i think hastebin or whatever pwar uses can use that...
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WhatsApp KoopaTroopa Tech: i will check that out later! Thanks!
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: i'm thinking that I might make my own alternate mudbin/pastebin
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WhatsApp KoopaTroopa Tech: That would be great too!!!  i just know a lot of people used it -- again, happy to host it
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knitted by Kharpern Tech: I can talk to him, the host for mudbin wanted pay for it so he didn't d it
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knitted by Kharpern Tech: I know I miss it!
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: tell pwar i love him
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torched Welding Tech: with Masaki moving their clanhall, it has caused my mapper to take me to areas incorrectly. what is the best way to fix this?
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: remove old exits
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: try having mapper forget the masaki clanhall and then rerun it?
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}#SANCTUARY Pleiades Tech: get rid of masaki
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torched Welding Tech: perfect, thanks all
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: #SANCTUARY Pleiades tells Torched Welding he's very welcome.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: could someoneone point me where to find a working consider window plugin?
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}King Pwar Tech: mudbin is back!! Thanks to KoopaTroopa and BOOT for hosting! http://mb.aardwolfboot.com/rose You can update using ppm or download the updated version of the plugin from http://mb.aardwolfboot.com/
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I get to find a way to break into my work desktop so that I can install Logitech Options so that I can switch between using my keyboard for my personal laptop and using it for the work desktop.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: This... shall be challengingly fun.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I found that Smart-UPS SU700INET has perfect temperature to rise sourdough
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Twas Brillig laughs out loud at Trachx.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Ok so why come when  I create mushbot client aliases, and save them, when i reload them, they aren't there?
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}104 Bamboo Tech: But
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}104 Bamboo Tech: But I can't copy color codes in tintin!
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 104 Bamboo whines pathetically about everything.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Racconto Tech: anyone know how to reset the 'dinv organize'?
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: does anyone have a blowtorch aardwolf specific client for phones?
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: or something like that for mobile playing?
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 104 Bamboo hits Mr. Crowley on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper and says, "No!".
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Made some changes to S&D, including adding a changelog, updating the readme, and the feature that several have asked for, changing Send to Execute for the kill command.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}104 Bamboo Tech: I don't recall asking for that
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: me neither
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, I say several. It really was like 3 people.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: FWIW I already changed it to execute myself :)
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: So i would have been a fourth!
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I'm just waiting for the eventual "Uh, I used ak/qk/kk, and it crashed my MUSH! What gives?!" because someone will probably create an infinite loop.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}104 Bamboo Tech: What's kk
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: kinky kites.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Mush has never not crashed on me, so...
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: my mush is crashed right now
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}104 Bamboo Tech: Kinky kites does sound like it will crash mush
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at 104 Bamboo.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: if the update messes up my aliases again then I'm going to change your code
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: and YOU can't do ANYTHING about it
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Antifa Raded sticks his tongue out, catching a few flies in the process.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}104 Bamboo Tech: Whoa whoa we were only joking around here Raded
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley places special code to check if the player name is Raded, and if so, to do malicious things to Raded's computer.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: oh no
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Things like open up Pornhub and turn speaker volumes to 100 while putting on hentai.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: oh knock it off
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}104 Bamboo Tech: I used to live with a friend who was job hunting, but was always on my computer playing skyrim
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torched Welding Tech: being a dragonborn is outsourced work these days...
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: thx for reminded me of the hackers war i accidentally started by sharing my pic lol 
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley boggles at Bogstar.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Torched Welding.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}104 Bamboo Tech: I changed Chrome's icon to skyrim and defaulted it to a custom html with javascript that will show a dialog saying something like "YOU SHOULD BE JOB HUNTING" then redirects to the job boards
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: the bad the good and the thank god i never dated a mudder in rl
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley rolls on the floor laughing at 104 Bamboo's antics!
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You should have changed it to, "You have 10 days to find a job or your rent doubles, and if you can't pay it, you get kicked out."
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Would've been funny to use AutoHotkey or something similar to where every time he pressed a key, it would pop up with "Are you job hunting?" :P
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torched Welding Tech: haha, yeah get the paperclip guy offer to help with finding a job
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley grins evilly.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Also, I want to share with you the greatest keyboard I've had the pleasure of typing on. I am impressed with the Logitech K860. I got it today, it's a split key (keys are divided by hand usage), and can connect via USB or Bluetooth, and allows connection up to 3 different computers with an easy switch option. It's low profile keys, and ergonomically contoured to make typing so much easier.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: What are low profile keys?
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedi Kandorr Tech: should we like and subscribe
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: There's not much depth to the keys, so you don't have to push down as far to get it to register.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}104 Bamboo Tech: That keyboard layout makes so much more sense
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Literally, the keys are about 1-2mm in height.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at 104 Bamboo.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: How can you have a greatest keyboard that doesn't have buckling springs?
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson walks around in the room, looking very confused.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}104 Bamboo Tech: Do you have the weird thing that comes with with that I can only assume to be a mouse
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I did not pick that up since I have my own.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Though that weird thing probably is the mouse.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Emrys Tech: is there a quick way to turn on/off a tree of triggers without having to enable/disable each of them separately?
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Emrys Tech: in mush
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: you can do it in groups
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}King Pwar Tech: if you give them groups
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If they're in a group, EnableTriggerGroup("groupname", false)
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: enabletriggergorup
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: just put them in a group, then you can just enable and disable the groups
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}104 Bamboo Tech: You can do it with groups
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}104 Bamboo Tech: Cause everyone else said it
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Bamboo, always late to the party.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}104 Bamboo Tech: Sadly, not just the party
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}104 Bamboo Tech: You don't just respond to tech channel THEN post a note a second after
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}104 Bamboo Tech: That's just not permitted here, sorry
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Easy secret - write the note outside the client, copy, nnw new, tech, all, Search and Destroy update, paste, enter, .p :D Autoformatting for me, easy peasy.
T3/r7/2020-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Emrys Tech: Thank you everyone. Got it. :)
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: Run-time error
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: Plugin: WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_2_8 (called from world: Aardwolf)
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: Function/Sub: xrun_to called by alias
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: Reason: processing alias ""
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: no such column: r.date_added
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: stack traceback:
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: [C]: in function 'nrows'
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: [string "Plugin: WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_2_8"]:733: in function <[string "Plugin: WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_2_8"]:717>
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: [C]: in function 'Execute'
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: [string "Plugin: WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_2_8"]:683: in function 'goto_list_item'
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: [string "Plugin: WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_2_8"]:661: in function <[string "Plugin: WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_2_8"]:652>
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: can someone help me please im using search and destroy
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: the winkle winkle version
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torched Welding Tech: did you have a quest in carnivale?
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Acheos Tech: finger crowley
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Yes, I will help. Stop botting and play the game yourself. You're welcome.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You're using the old version. Use mine. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: oh thanks man
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: switch to old aardwolf client or use Crowley or Pwar version
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: reinstall if its pwar
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Don't listen to salty DjVoltron.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Pwar best version
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: so which one is it
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Excuse me for believing muds were meant for people and not scripts and clients.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: You're excused
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: id use crowley in your position, but pwar overall is the better plugin
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Pwar's is bugged, and he doesn't update it. :D
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: It's the overall better bot.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Someone just said so.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i have yet to find a serious bug with it Crowley
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Or is this not the right channel for that?
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: but pwars is just one file wheres the search and destroy
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: That's all I ever hear on channels, is not to talk on them.. *boggle*
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I'm just going by what I've heard, Shindo.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Anyway, it's 3:30, so I'm going to bed.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Gnight.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: It's 3:34 though.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: no, you're right DJVoltron, it is kind of botting but for those of us who get lost in our backyards it's invalueble
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but then so is writing aliases for every mob for quests and people used to do that
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Writing sep aliases for each mob isn't botting, it'd OCD at best
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: I'd accept that over a client playing for ya tho.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: who wants to actually play, just bot yo
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Yeah that seems to be the consensus now adays.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Oh well, it'll be the death of the mud like so many others.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: thats why the mud is alive bud
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: You just posted that banning S&D would kill the mud
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: its like WoW with addons, you can make the game your own
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: I did no such thing.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: I said we'd lose players, not that it'd kill the mud.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: lol
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: And that just speaks to the number of bots there are here, nothing more.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: it was 30sec ago how can you forget what ya said
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: this game is alive because of the scripting things allowed
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: | part about allowing people to bot so they participate or not lose interest is BS. I'd rather have 10 people actually playing than 100 people running their S&D etc Scripts. I know, I seem to be in the minority there. That's fine, I mean it's not, and it's going to ruin the mud, but I can't help it, so it's fine.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: you think castiel would still be playing if he wasnt allowed to bot?
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: board ideas, 43873
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: That's why 90% of the t9's I know left because of the scripting allowed.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Waht ever dude, get yer facts straight before you run your mouth.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: roflmao
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: come on
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torched Welding Tech: 90% huh
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: crowleys version of search and destroy just stopped working
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Cuz bots suck.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: not really a bot... just lots of alias's
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: B o T
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Don't bother engaging.. DJV too self-righteous
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: lol
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: And correct.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Hard to argue with people that are right.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Acheos Tech: Perhaps we can move this to debate and clear up the tech channel for tech questions
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Hi, do you need a special motherboard for RGB lighting?
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: This is a tech issue.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Bots are tech related.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Legally speaking SnD isn't a bot - that is, if you use SnD in a safe and legal way, without any illegal modifications or command stacking, you will not be breaking the rules of Aardwolf. It's up to you to decide if it's personally good for you, or if you think it's too much automation. That's a subjective issue and a grey area. :)
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: it's still a bot, people just modify it into a better bot.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: humans are bots too
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: K boomer.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: some people arent as smart as you
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Like a motherboard with dedicated connections for RGB lights?
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: True.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Acheos Tech: tech off 20
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: maybe is mentally non able friendly
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: ignore acheos
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: OK, I will try Google :)
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you'll definitely need an interface on the motherboard but it probably uses a power cable from the power supply
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sometimes you can get illuminated mobos
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: What is this interface? A button on case or software?
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: I want those Trachx :)
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: software, if any
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer goes, "OK".
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is just ugly, you want deep black PC with as low light as possible
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the software needs a way to talk to the lights... interface with them
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer rapidly nods twice at Sheriff Shindo, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: my friend had a PC - I think with MSI board, RAMs with LEDs, fans with LEDs and plexiglass case
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: I want a black shiny mirror front case, with tempered side panel, like a green back fan blowing out, maybe blue fans intop and white smoke RGB rings infront.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so it could be used to replace xmas lights 
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: you know Trachx, I don't mind a little bit of lighting.. like, a couple LEDs aren't bad.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Let's you know when to clean :D
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: shiny mirror, get matte instead
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: I guess I am a moth, because I am very attracted to these lights :P
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: umm the planesmob on bast plugins dont work anymore?
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: nvm
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer screams, 'WooHoo!!!' at Sheriff Shindo... Woohoo!!!
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: in one of my previous cases I used tapes to make LEDs dull
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: i used a drill once
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: The lights must be changing colour though, like RGB strips and RGB fans...
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and considering dust - you want as simple case as possible - maybe just with door to protect ports / drivers
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Shindo, those ram and & motherboard lights looks nice.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: for someone who really likes old simple games, he sure wants a gaudy new computer
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is example of ROG light mobo and components: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMUZMfnLTtw
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: I don't want a simple case :P, I want it to look sleek yet premium feel with nice light layout and good planned airflow, since I will clean it regularly, dust won't be an issue.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: are lian li still around making cases?
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: This is the case I am gonna buy. https://www.evetech.co.za/evetech-ares/best-deal/6666.aspx?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0oLtsrm66QIVFc53Ch0DZQSnEAQYASABEgK4zvD_BwE
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Looks sexy as hell huh :D
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: I'm a fan of NZXT cases if you want something to show off
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i find cases unnecessary lol
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i just get the cheapest that fits everything i need
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: ehh, some features are nice. Like Lian-li's cases that used to buy were all aluminium and had rolled edges. Really nice to work with
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: There goes 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer giggling again, and this time he's looking towards Redryn.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Super light.. my friend got this full atx tower, all steel. His computer weight like, 40 pounds, it was ridiculous
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: does crowleys s*d have a mapper cexit option i cant find it
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: that's a mapper function. mapper help
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: mapper cexit is part of the stock mushclient mapper
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: all S&D does is use the mapper to move you around
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: thx
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: what are you having an issue with?
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone use the whale web browser? just wanted to know what people thought of it
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}King Pwar Tech: -n 100
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}King Pwar Tech: Showmap has been updated to add the new map of dsr, you can update via ppm
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Racconto Tech: how can i do for the mapper to pick first in between to option for the same room?
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Racconto Tech: two*
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: mapper should take the shortest route afaik
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Racconto Tech: in kingshold i want it no navigate using the next, but instead it tries to open the gate (and it triggers an open door loophole)
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: i wonder if you delete the 'e' exit from the room if it will work
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: why can't my mapper ever get to call of heroes?
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: You might have to mark the entrance for it
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cexit in the way
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: ah yes, or that, some zones ya gotta enter things to get to, so just cexit entrance
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: tribal is another one
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I have the things cexited, xrt just doesn't take you there.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: there's 3 cexits there i think friend foe fun
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: try go rt there and then try
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: ah, the problem was that I hadn't done the cexit to get into the call of heroes, just the cexits once I was in.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Who is Kelaire Tech: How do I fix exits in mapper?  I see how to delete cexits, but how do I delete normal exits (Masakis move screwed up some run paths)
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suluap Tech: you can do it by right clicking on the room in the map visual
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suluap Tech: and then there should be a delete exit option in the popup
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Who is Kelaire Tech: Ah!  Yes, nice thanks!
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Suluap bows deeply.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: is there such a thing as a bluetooth dongle devices can be paired with and whatever device the dongle is plugged into they will be connected to automatically?
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: what?
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: what are you trying to do? for example i have a dongle for my pc that dail
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: so if you paired a bluetooth keyboard to the dongle and unplugged it from one device and plugged it into another device the new device would be paired
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it depends what firmware that dongle has
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: as there are few to no decent small keyboards that aren't bluetooth and I'd want a station I can plug my usb-c laptop or my phone into and not have to re-sync the keyboard in each swap I'm considering if there's a dongle that can be plugged into the hub and just pass keyboard/mouse to whatever the hub's plugged into
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: storing paired device data requires some kind of non volatile mempory - like eeprom/nvram
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: dot-matrix printer and ocr-scanner.
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: maybe this is a job for an atmega32u and bluetooth module
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: basically you need usb dongle on one side that supports bluetooth on the other side
T3/r7/2020-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: does a bluetooth usb plug store its pairings?
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lykaon Tech: i was trying to do something like    SetVariable ("List", "milk eggs")    but have the eggs stored on a second line
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lykaon Tech: mushclient, lua
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: not with setvariable its basically just a small database like: list = milk,eggs basically, you would need to put it on a different line when you process the output
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lykaon Tech: ok, thanks.  i noticed that i could enter things in the variable on different lines manually, so i was hoping setvariable or something similar could do it for me in a trigger
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: can you stop a dinv refresh
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: whats name
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: i think you can type dinv refresh off
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: command i mean
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: ty
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: alternatively, i believe if you go to sleep it might stop
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: does anyone use the battlenet app?
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Acheos Tech: sure. whats the issue?
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: i have a problem with the battlenet app by its self it freezes for 1-2 seconds then unfreezes when i click on something again it freezes again but when i go the internet explorer and uncheck automaticlly find lan settings it works fine i dont undertstand whats causing it
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: is your computer hot
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: im not having problems with anything else its just the battlenet app and my computer isnt hot
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: u guys want me to record the problem
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: in estonia it is 28days per year... unless company desides to give more. i get 33 days
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: miss
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: here is the error
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: https://youtu.be/n4PvaVA90Xc
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: when i click on the first part its very laggy and when i change the settings the lag is gone
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: anyone using gnome desktop? it there a screenshot extension that lets me directly upload the image to imgur or somewhere? like xfce screenshot does it by default
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: anyone know what the problem might be?
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: it is over partially. border with latvia is open. but there are still some restrictions. like you have to keep 2m distance with other people in public places. not sure how it works out when shopping centers are open etc
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: true
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: is anyone able to help me with that problem
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: How can I create some sort of function that multiple triggers can call so I don't have to copy/paste the code between them? Without having to write a freaking entire plugin?
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Put it in an alias would be the easiest way.
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can run a function natively in MUSH or load up a Lua script.
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: And have the triggers execute the alias.
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Aliases can act as functions with arguments?
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: That'll work then.
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Ctrl+I, paste your function there, and then your triggers can use the function until you close out MUSh.
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Or put it in a Lua script and load it each time you load MUSH.
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You could also just add your function to your main mush script file.  Then any of your aliases/triggers could use it as long as they aren't in plugins
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Durel.
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Which one is the main file? Is it in with the plugins?
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Go to File -> Global Preferences -> Lua.
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Open your config (control+shift+0) and then go to the scripts section (at the bottom left)
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Or that.
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Oh, that'll run every time the game opens? That'll work too.
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: It's both good and bad that there are nine thousand ways to do anything.
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, that runs each time you start mush.  You can reload it with "control-shift-r" to if you make a change and want to use your change
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: I'm looking to add an option for my local version of the aard miniwin scroll script so that I can middleclick to hide the miniwin and not just scroll up/down. Not as familiar with detecting mouse pushes in a script though if anyone can give any guidance
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: the splitscreen scrollback script I mean
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Could just ask Fiendish to add that as an option.
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Fiendish does love quality of life suggestions.
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: True. Consider it a good learning opportunity regardless
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Also, be mindful that you'll want to create a copy, not modify the plugin, because it will be overwritten if you update.
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: true. Don't want to lose it
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That said, I don't know what the middle click code would look like, hmm.
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: It looks like I need to check flags in the miniwin? from the research I've done but it seems weird how it works.
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: http://gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=WindowAddHotspot --> That's probably your best source.
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: thanks. looking
T3/r7/2020-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: hi im dumb, what is the command to dinv get all items that are not kept?
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: what is the flag that says its keep
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: help keep
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That's not going to work, though.
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: "kept" is not the same as kflag.
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: My GPU is GiGabyte, will I be able to use MSI over clocking software?
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: trying to get every item that is not kept out my bags, but i froget how sadface
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I am not sure what MSI software is, but probably
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: MSI Afterburner.
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: afterburner i think is oen of them that lots use
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: okay yep so it should be fine
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: OMG, tnx :)
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: make sure your gpu is rated for overclocking and stuff
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: It's factory over clocked lol.
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: okay
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i bought a 8700k when it first came out and havent overclocked it once
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: I need to use MSI Afterburner to cap my games to 60 FPS, I am not gonna over clock though.
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: prob coulda done okay with a 8700
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: 60 fps is not ideal for pc
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: mise well get a console :P
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i guess if ya dont got a 120-144hz monitor it dont matter
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer shakes his cane at you.
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Yeah, 60hz monitor, also I love 60fps!!!
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: wheres the beautiful durel when i need him!
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: is there a keyword on the identify that indicates its kept?  no, right?
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: "held"
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Held flag.
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: so do dinv search ~flag held
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: to see all held items
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: dang i checked and everything and didnt notice that
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: i think
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: or that finds NOT kept items, idk
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i accidentally did a dinv get ~flags nosell, so im not doing too well right now
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: either way
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: apparently every item in my inventory is ~flags nosell
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: You usually want to do a search before you do a get, so that doesn't happen :P
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Huko is agreeing with that Areia person again...
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: nice nice cleaned like 150 slots, tyty
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: noice!
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuli Tech: is there a way to use ~ on the same category twice in DINV? e.g. wanting to check my inventory for anything unkept that is not a key? because dinv search ~flag iskey ~flag held does not seem to work...
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: That's the correct way. Not all keys have the iskey flag, though.
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: you can use type key
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: not flags iskey
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuli Tech: thanks, i'll check those out :)
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: when we make gmcp calls, does it ping aardwolf or is MUSH storing the gmcp entries and we are retrieving from our own storargeg?
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It's getting cached values from your gmcp plugin in mush
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: gmcp updates are pushed from the mud unless you manually request an update
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: GMCP is broadcast from the MUD any time that there is a change in GMCP values. MUSH then interprets that data through the gmcp helper plugin and stores it.
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: oh sweeet! so i can either grab it from the onpluginbroadcast or just gmcp("") it and i am not bugging aardwolf
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel nods at Zhalut.
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: sweet thanks :)
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: As a side note, Durel does charge 2 tps for his help, so you might want to pay him up.
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel slaps Mr. Crowley.
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Autonomous Anymouse Tech: pls submit payment to me
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Alright, it's 3 tps.
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what is a good resource for learning how to draw plugin windows?
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: likely just reading code and documentation. mush doesn't have much in the way of tutorials.
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Mapper exit level locks are two way, right? 
T3/r7/2020-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Does this automapper not support doors without the whole cexit thing?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Is there a benefit when buying same brand motherboard as GPU?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Anyone got a link to the aarcheology plugin?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: or the helpfile for it, i might have it but cant find help file
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: dang i found it but it just dont work sadface
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whoadude Tech: is it possible / allowed to get a more completed mapper file than your own ?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: certainly possible, but good luck finding anyone to give theirs up
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whoadude Tech: ah i see
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It has been done before. The problem is, it takes a LOT of effort to map complete areas. You might find someone willing to sell their map for a sizable sum, though. 
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: One person used to have their map publically available, but took it down long ago.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Also, mappers are often individualized too.  A lot of my cexits are based on goals I've done or specific equipment I have
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: that one is probably out of date, too.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: a lot of work adding cexits & stuff
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whoadude Tech: ahh, i still have not figured out the cexits thing
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: checked mapper help ?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Thankfully you can mapper purge cexits and mapper purge portals to remove customizations.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: cexits are really easy... mapper help exits will tell you.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: a mapper would be useless without cexits
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I mean a map, rather.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Not useless. Just not utilized to the best of its capabilities.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: most places I can't get to without my cexits. melody for example is the easiest one.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Like I said, though, doesn't make the map useless. Just not utilized to fullest extent. You are more than capable of going to recall, typing 'runto melody', and then entering it manually.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: yeah, was thinking the biggest use I get out of my maps is quests and campaigns. no cexits would ruen that.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, it would certainly slow them down for sure.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whoadude Tech: so if theres a door i justo do mapper cexit open w , and it will open that door from then on ? or ?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: mapper cexit open w;w
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whoadude Tech: ah ok , thanks
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: yeah but you'll want to add like o w;
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: also make sure you do the other side. if an area repops it will let you get back through.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Double the semi-colons
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: nm enroe got it :)
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You want open west;;w
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I just wrote an alias in mushclient to do it, cow is mapper cexit open w;w, just send it to execute, not world.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: so mapper cexit open west;;west for example.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: but yeah, also what Crowley said. I didn't realize my semi wasn't doubled.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: I like to do both directions while you're in it too 
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Talbor.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whoadude Tech: oh you need 2 semicolons? i did it with 1 and it seemed to work
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It "seemed" to work, but the mapper only stored 'open west'. The reason it seemed to work is because MUSHclient saw 'mapper cexit open west' as one command, and that alias opens west as expected. But then it saw 'west' as a second command, and sent that to the MUD.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: if it's an alias, you need 2
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whoadude Tech: gotcha, makes sense, thanks
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: make sure you delete that cexit. sorry for the confusion, that was my fault.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You'll want to delete that cexit that you just made (right-click on the room you made it in and delete cexit), and then remake it.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: my chat window disappeared at some point on mush, and i cant seem to get it back is there any commands or something i can run to get it back?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnaccBoi Cheezburger Tech: aardreset?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: just tried that and nothing
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnaccBoi Cheezburger Tech: Maybe it's resetaard, i can never remember the order
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: ctrl+shift+p then find the comm window and reinstall?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: its aardwolf chat capture window or something
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: nope ... oh well
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: chats show maybe?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: got it thanks :)
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Is there any way to tell the game to stop a speedwalk on the first error? It really serves no purpose to keep trying.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnaccBoi Cheezburger Tech: If you're manually walking it via script, yes. If you're using the built-in runto, no.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnaccBoi Cheezburger Tech: runto is just an alias for speedwalk, which just sends all of the run command at once. It's not waiting each room, etc
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: The automapper seems to issue 'run' commands, so I guess that won't work. Oh well. Why in the world is it programmed this way anyway.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: there is ways to make it not bump into stuff and mess up
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnaccBoi Cheezburger Tech: because you add cexits to make the "run" work
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: theyre called cexits
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: I know about cexits, but I would die if I had to do that for every door in the game. The only good thing zMUD had was native door support.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnaccBoi Cheezburger Tech: Make an alias for open that adds the cexit for you
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: funny enough, its easy enough
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnaccBoi Cheezburger Tech: So each time you open a door, you teach the mapper about it
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i never enjoyed it, butonce i did it,its ezpz with aliases
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Fair enough, I guess I could just do it one at a time when it happens, like 'squeaky wheel'.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: Best get used to it. "Aaardwolf, the map making game"
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnaccBoi Cheezburger Tech: I use an alias for in-game cexits and doors, that auto-updates the mapper. I don't do it manually. It does it itself
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: But seriously...no native door support. *sigh*
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnaccBoi Cheezburger Tech: Can also add a trigger for door messages to auto-open and update the map as well
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: I'd love to, but the run would continue and be in some other room by the time I could issue commands.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Or did you say there's a way to change the mush automapper to go a room at a time?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: zMUD/CMUD did not have "native door support". You had to do "#DOOR <direction>", which is really no different than mapper cexit open west;;west.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: As a side note, you can easily make that an alias, #DOOR <dir>, to do 'mapper cexit open %1;;run %1'
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salty Popcorn Tech: zmud had 30 days trial, so I had to adjust computer clock. Eventually my PC was living 5 years in the past
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Heh. I have 3 copies of CMUD, 2 of them Pro, and one copy of zMUD licensed. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: speaking of cexits...does the mapper have a way to edit a cexit or only delete and recreate?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salty Popcorn Tech: rich!
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: 3 of the licenses I got for free, mainly for bug testing CMUD.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Only bought one license, and that was for the basic CMUD.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: I almost started working as a dev on zMUD, wayyyyyyyy back, and I had to sign an NDA and try to learn something called Delphi. It was...a thing.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Were you the one that Zugg got screwed over by and decided to never let anyone else work on zMUD ever again? :P
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: I never ended up doing anything, so...I doubt it? Unless he was just mad about somebody who stopped emailing or something.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: break the NDA and spill the tea sis
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh, you ALMOST started working on it. Zugg let one other person work on it with him, and got screwed over by it, so Zugg locked him out, and kept it to himself for the rest of time.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: No, I never broke the NDA. I signed it and started to learn Delphi, went 'what in the world is this thing' and forgot about it.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The guy had released the actual code or stole it and created a similar application using Zugg's code.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: Any particular reason mudlet doesn't seem to have big presence on aard? It's a pretty nice mud client to be honest
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's not really popular, wasn't supported for a long time, etc.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Probably because there's a preconfigured 'just works, one click' client available.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Most of the people here couldn't write a script to open up a box, even if the line was simply: if box == "closed" then box = open. So they rely on preconfigured clients or clients that have a lot of support on them, like MUSH. Back in the day, it was zMUD/CMUD.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I used to write a lot of scripts for both zMUD and CMUD. In fact, I wrote Deal or No Deal on CMUD, as well as my 'get weather' script.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: yeah. No of course. The work that has already gone into makes sense
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: 'melvin, get weather for 12345'
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: [Melvin]: 1046 S Olive St, Los Angeles, CA 90015, USA: Sunny Temp: 70F (21.1C) Feels like: 70F (21.1C) Humidity: 53%  Wind: N at 0 mph. Visibility: 10 miles. Cloud cover: 0% Current time: 09:48
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: I just hate how mush handles scripts
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: How do you mean, Borthain?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: /plugins
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: melvin stop spamming channel
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: Mudlet it was nice to be able to import a plugin and work on it easily within the UI. Adding/editing/removing etc.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Borthain: What's so wrong about that?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: [Melvin]: Huko, you shut your dirty mouth.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: being able to look up script aliases without having to search the plugin text file etc...
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can do that in MUSH, too... :p
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: The ui in mush is cluttered and unintuitive, honestly. It's a pain. Function over form 180%.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: but mush lets you use lua, not whatever that god awful zmud script thing was.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: mudlet is lua too yeah
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: zscript was the language.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: I'm -not- advocating for zmud hah
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Didn't think you were. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: At the end of the day Mush is better than zMUD, but by gawd it has been a right royal pain to get even simple stuff running in Mush. It's like it was programmed in stream-of-consciousness.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Honestly, MUSH can be a bit intimidating at the start. It's why it took me so long to get into it. Then I started writing plugins for it, and it just clicked with me.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I've never once had a problem running simple stuff in MUSH.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I wish mush weren't written in vc6, I can't get it to compile on anything later and it uses really old MFC. I'd happily hack on it and clean things up a bit or add VI features, whatever if that were not the case.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But if you have issues with certain things, the best thing to do is note to Fiendish, because if it's a real issue, he can likely fix it.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i liked zmud/cmud, because it was easy for me to write simple triggers and aliases and such
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i understood the variables, and all that
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i never tried doing complicated, big things
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: like maintain a mapper
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's easy to write triggers and aliases here too, Scars. #trigger {You feel hungry.} {eat}
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Do you know how long and how many googles it took me just to find a list of names of colors for use in commands? For frick's sake there's not even a simple documentation page listing them. I had to dig and dig just to find somewhere mentioning to check the color picker. Like WHY would I think to do that.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Disalaura: It's all html colors, and that's clearly stated somewhere.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I wonder
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but for a simple #10 quaff potion?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mush doesn't support simple loops without writing that yourself
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Scars: I told you I wrote that alias, too.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I can do #10 quaff potion.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: 'Clearly stated' looking from the other side. Nobody ever realizes how unintuitive something is for newbies once they haven't been one for long enough.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: because you wrote the alias to enable it
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It was a simple alias, too. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: look, i'm not here championing any one language over any other, and difficulty of a task has a lot to do with inherent skill for the subject
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I wonder how hard it would be to just rip the UI layer off mushclient and then wrap it in WX so mac and linux can use it without wine.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't like coding, i don't like to do it for work, i certainly don't want to spend my freetime on it... this stuff is hard for me
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Scars: Would you like my # alias? :P
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i see my point has been missed, thanks
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: I want it too, Crowley hah
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: yeah but the thing is most people on aard would just help you solve the problem without you having to get all upset.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm not upset, lol
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I've already written random tidbits of aliases and lua code for people here that wanted help.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: okay s/upset/annoyed.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Absolutely you people have been very open and helpful, I will admit. But it would be better if I could ask google instead of you.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and the amount of help you can get here usually comes across as "its easy..." really just makes me feel great about how damn hard it feels for me, haha
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: I wistfully long for documentation the quality of Microsoft's C#.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: mush isn't easy. it's not intuitive.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: it just comes through experience, and it's often easy for those with experience to just be like "It's easy."
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm aware :)
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: It's honestly the difference between a professional product and a crowd-developed one. Professional products have people paid to do the 'not fun' parts.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: https://pastebin.com/jPXuZGdW --> That's the alias. To use it, it's simply: #<num> action, so #10 quaff potion
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i came in late and thought we were pro/con-ing zMUD vs mush
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If you want more than one action to be repeated, it's as simple as doubling up the ;, so #10 quaff potion;;cry
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and imo, zMUD aliases and triggers were very easy for me to do, i still don't know how to make a proper trigger here... so i just don't have any that didn't come with a plugin, which is basically the strength of the aardclient for me... so many people have freely shared their robust plugins, that doing my own thing just isn't needed
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Scars: Simple triggers are easy here, though. #trigger {You are thirsty.} {drink} --> That'll send "drink" when the line "You are thirsty." appears.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars sighs.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If you do want more complicated stuff, it's not too difficult, either. It very much is in line with zMUD/CMUD, for the most part.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: #trigger {Mr. Crowley Tech: *} {*slap Crowley} Unknown command. Please check the helpfiles.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Boghadair Grimvald nods at Scars.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so easy
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Hmm, interesting.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't even want this fixed
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if it's broken
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I don't think it's "broken", but you might be missing something or another. Not sure.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I don't have it either, oddly. no idea where that comes from.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: it's not native mush for sure.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Convenience aliases that should load with MUSHclient unless Fiendish took it out.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: The #trigger and #alias were preinstalled when I downloaded this.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: They don't work great but they do work.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Same thing with #alias. If it's not sending commands, then he might have taken them out for some reason. *shrug*
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: They're meant for simple things, though.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: for all i know, i deleted them
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Could have.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: #alias isn't here either, so removed.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: #trigger has some weird thing where if you make a trigger, change it to a different pattern, and use the same command again, it overwrites the changed trigger.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i just think it's deeply unfair to characterize zmud or cmud in such a negative light, when for people with my skills, it felt easier to do the things i wanted to do
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: I downloaded this client like a week ago so right now they're in there.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that said, i use aardclient because of how much better the experience is for me
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh, I never characterized them in a negative light. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: cmud is to mush as ubuntu is to debian.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I don't think anyone was. my issues with zmud were accessibility, and the language which I do realize is good for people, but it's not something I can use anywhere else.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: the fact that mush and others use lua is super cool. you can pull in lua libs and find help with your lua code anywhere.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i responded to this, and basically agreed with it: Disalaura Tech: At the end of the day Mush is better than zMUD, but by gawd it has been a right royal pain to get even simple stuff running in Mush. It's like it was programmed in stream-of-consciousness.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i think you felt i was talking to you personally
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Honestly, if someone wants to learn how to do something in MUSH, all they typically have to do is ask. I realize that not everything is intuitive, but it's not as difficult as some make it out to be.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: It's not as easy as some make it out to be, too.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: For the simple things, it really is, though.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: And like I said, you are helpful and wonderful, but it's stupid that asking in a chat room is the best resource for a newbie. It's great as an option, but the documentation should really be good enough to make it exceptional.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: It really isn't for you to decide how hard something is for someone else.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: And honestly it really is annoying to keep hearing 'but it's so easy'. You may even mean to be encouraging with it, like 'don't worry it's easy' but that is not how it comes across.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: For example, your trigger example, Scars -> Go to Triggers -> Add. Type in "Mr. Crowley Tech: *" in the 'Trigger box', then in the 'Send Box', *slap Crowley. As long as "Send to World" is selected, it's done.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: wait until you go opk, talk about whining
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: you could add triggers even without the #trigger though. ctrl+shift+8, add, Crowley Tech:*, in send just *slap crowley
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: And this is the perfect example of what I mean. You look at something, say 'but it's like...three clicks, that's so easy'. When you already know what those clicks are, and why you do them in that order, yes.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: exactly, you have to navigate a couple of windows and figure out which boxes to check
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: huko's like that weird kid who can't fit in at the cool kids table so wants to bring the subject back to him. Welcome to the conversation, bud.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Disalaura: You may be right - some people may find it frustrating. When I say "it's easy", it's because it IS easy. It doesn't change the fact that you may have not been taught it, or someone taught you a way that is so much harder to do. I tend to find ways to help people as much as I can with easiness.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: once you know which boxes to check, it's easy
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: uhhh, i started the convo with him
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm not sure why you cannot accept that you cannot decide the difficulty of a task for someone else
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: difficulty is perception
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Try teaching senior citizens to use computers some time. They are 100% capable and the stigma is wrong, but the trick is learning how to teach.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: when something feels hard for me and i'm told it's easy, you might as well call me an idiot
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: this conversation has grown rather circular.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: lol. it.can be done
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Honestly, you don't even have to use the GUI, if you know the functions. \\\AddTrigger("trigger name", "trigger pattern", "trigger action") is really all you need, I think.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: look at all you people
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Oh my god Crowley.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Boghadair Grimvald rolls his eyes.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: ;)
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: It's easy to operate this nuclear reactor, all you have to do is type in this sequence if this red light turns on. See, easy.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: hey, Homer could do it!
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BabyShark Kya Tech: I have such a love hate feeling about teaching older people how to use technology. On one hand, of course it's frustrating, but on the other, it's so fun to be super happy for them and throw a little excitement party when they manage to click the right thing or accomplish something that we may consider small. :)
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I didn't say that was an easy way. I was just simply stating that you don't have to use the GUI for it. ;)
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: you should join a clan and get into gclan ASAP Dalaura
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Shut up, Huko.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: I'd rather not join a clan, honestly. I don't like insular communities.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: okay what I don't understand is... you clearly had to learn how to add triggers and aliases to zmud. So we've both given you options and we keep going back to how easy it is not. Once you learn, it becomes something that you know how to do. Did you just obtain your zmud knowledge through telepathy?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: because if not, it's a matter of learning how to do it so you can, which is a matter of reading the docs or asking questions. Both of which you likely did with zmud. You have to get that knowledge somewhere.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i learned almost everything i used for zmud through the helpfiles/google
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That's how I learned everything I know about MUSH.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: MUSH has extensive documentation and plenty of examples. More than zMUD ever had.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: feels good to be an idiot
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Hell, there's even a plugin where you can type 'mchelp trigger' to find all the functions related to it.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Nah, you're not an idiot at all, Scars. :)
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm super thankful for aardclient, so i don't have to force myself to learn how to do things
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: because i really hate that process
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it's not part of mudding to me
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: add trigger mushclient in google went straight to mushclient documentation: triggers. No one has called you an idiot, but you're more intent on falling back to that for some reason.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars sighs.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'll throw my 2 cents in.  I went from telnet to mush so mush feels godlike to me :P  When I wanted to learn how to use it, I started with the tutorial on gannon's forums and just built it up from there.  I've found the documentation to be unbelievably helpful.  Maybe I'm not seeing the same issue since I've never done things with zmud/cmud and don't have those expectations.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: http://mushclient.com/faq
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: that same documentation exists for mush. it's just annoying because the help hasn't been converted to work for later versions of windows.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i regret participating in this conversation
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: take care 
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelmae Tech: I have Mudlet, Scars. You?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Eroe: install the mchelp plugin that comes with MUSH in general. Then you can type 'mchelp trigger' on the command line and it'll show up in the main window.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Oh, when I say the documentation, I mean the online docs with all the APIs and examples.  I don't use anything natively on my system
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: since you are on the topic of helpfiles, is there a helpfile that can teach me to use aliases to enable\disable triggers?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I started here and found it a nice intro to mush plugins/triggers:  http://mushclient.com/forum/?id=6030
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: you would want the EnableTrigger or EnableGroup, also DisableTrigger and DisableGroup. here's a comprehensive list of functions: http://www.gammon.com.au/functions
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Here is another great resource for APIs:  http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?general=function_list
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelmae Tech: That sounds all so terrible... :D
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm not calling any of it easy :P  But I found both of those helpful :)
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But for real, if there is ANYONE who has basic questions about how to write an alias/trigger/etc., feel free to contact me. If I'm busy (like I am now, and I'm losing money by not keying documents), I'll respond to you as soon as I can. But there are plenty of people who will "dumb it down" enough to help you out without making you feel like an idiot. I tend to be one of those people, most days, unless I don't like you.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: I think the big problem Durel is the UI. E.g. look at how mudlet handles packages (aka plugins) and seeing/editing the aliases or contents of it https://imgur.com/a/0spIxvY
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: heh, looks like i got some reading to do. thanks all :)
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: yay ill hit ya up crowley
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Please note that Huko is one of the ones I do not like.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: devs can program in any of the platforms..but as an end user or moderate dev doing editing or even looking up stuff...beyond painful
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I haven't put out the stuff crowley has, but I'm also more than happy to help with mush/scripting.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Nod borthain.  That's part of it for me.  I've never used mudlet/cmud/gmud/zmud so I won't say mush is easier or harder than those.  I'm just trying to give some starting points for if you do want to play with mush :)
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakami Tech: Durel, is there a way to have the output of 'dinv search duff' be grabbed from the main window and sent to the comm log?  I'd like to take the lines that start with DINV and copy them to comm log.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Nakami: There isn't at the moment. All of that is sent via print commands which do not trigger, so you can't grab it and transfer to comm log.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Nakami, not currently.  Dinv outputs info with prints that aren't echoed to aard so you can't trigger on them
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You'd have to modify the plugin itself to do Simulate or something else, but that would be a headache to go through 22k lines to find what you need to change.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: As a consolation prize, an undocumented dinv feature is that you can do "dinv commlog [whatever]" and it will copy [whatever -- including color codes] to your commlog
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakami Tech: that would mean all dinv output would go to comm log though, right?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: how could you hate me
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: mines.a.given
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: he didn't say hate, just dislike.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakami Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I don't hate people. I just dislike them. :)
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If you are comfortable tweaking the plugin, go to "function dbot.print(string)" and add something like "echo string" in the if clause there.  That would echo it all to aard so you could trigger on it --  that would be a lot of overhead though.  You could also do "dinv commlog " .. string to output it all to the commlog there too I suppose.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I don't recommend either option, but you did ask :P
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frsh Prnce Kelaire Tech: While we're talking about DINV....I have a question Durel
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: ask away!
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frsh Prnce Kelaire Tech: Is it possible to set dinv to ignore a specific item?  
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: durel is god but can we not just get native door support
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: See "dinv help ignore"
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You can't ignore individual items, but you can ignore a container and everything in that container
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You're ignorant, Huko. :)
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frsh Prnce Kelaire Tech: Yeah, I want to ignore leaflets
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frsh Prnce Kelaire Tech: for whatever reason, Dinv thinks all the leaflets I've won are in my inventory and keeps going through them on refreshes...the only way for it to get rid of that is to do a build
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frsh Prnce Kelaire Tech: Do I have something screwy on my end that it's doing that?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Hmm.  Are you doing automatic refreshes or eager refreshes?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frsh Prnce Kelaire Tech: I've tried both ways...currently just auto
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I think what may be happening is that the item shows up in your inventory, triggers a refresh, but it disappears before dinv can find it.  You may want to just switch to manual refreshes in that case
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frsh Prnce Kelaire Tech: Makes sense.  rebuilding once every few days isn't killing me...since I do it then walk away lol
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Not a great solution I know :P  But I suspect that would avoid that case
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Would be nice to do something like dinv ignorekey leaflet, and it would ignore anything with the keyword leaflet... *shifty*
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: or ignoretype potion...
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley prods Durel into action!
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frsh Prnce Kelaire Tech: Put in a change request Crowley.  It will need approved by the CAB...and put in in triplicate
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers with Frsh Prnce Kelaire about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: I assume there's no inventory miniwindow display plugin.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Not for dinv
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You assume incorrectly.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Not for DINV, but there is one out there.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Oh?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I think someone else had one though.  Maybe hadar or bast?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I forget currently who has it (maybe MadCatz?), but it may be out of date anyway.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frsh Prnce Kelaire Tech: Bast, I think has one
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Bast probably has one, yeah.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frsh Prnce Kelaire Tech: Finger Bast and check his github...may find one there Disalaura
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Last commit 2018...hmm.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frsh Prnce Kelaire Tech: We never said it would be current 
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh, Madcatz was container sort and autoeq wear, which is everything DINV does and more.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Current is irrelevant. Functional is important.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Nick Gammon even did a video tutorial on MUSH about inventory miniwindows, using Aardwolf as the MUD of choice.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: For those not in the know, Nick Gammon is the author of MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Aardwolf is to other muds as Angband is to other rogues.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: In that video tutorial, he explains how to write the necessary triggers for it.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Aha, 'invmon'...8 years ago. Um. Oh well.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Invmon is still used today. DINV uses it, in fact.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Aardwolf hasn't made any breaking changes in 8 years?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Not really, no.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: I guess the climate changes faster than this game does.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The game changes every so often, but when a feature is added and it doesn't break anything, there's really no need to change it.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Right now, Lasher is working on subclasses for the most part, adding some small features. But why change something that isn't broken? It's how you get broken scripts.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: Hey, why does bast spellup no longer keep my spellups active? They wear off and don't re-cast anymore
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: Have you turned on "DisableSpellup"?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: where is that set?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: It's an alias. Check "spellup help"
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: you mean bsp help? 'spellup help' is just the muds command
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: ah nevermind. I realized I switched off of Basts. Nevermind!
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: so how do i do 2 attacks. like heavenly balance with apocalypse in sync with ticks
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: i use buttons
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: is there a way to add color into a Simulate("")?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: is there a short way to go to the rooms in the mapper unexplored here list? after I puff a few times I start not tracking numbers well and it's all kinds of annoying.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Does your 'mapper unexplored' command work? Mine doesn't even have that in it. I thought they removed it. It just has 'unmapped' which never works.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Also probably 'mapper next' would work.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: oh mapper unmapped here sorry. I have it aliased.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Mine never does anything it seems like. Even when it's drawing an unvisited room it's like no rooms unmapped.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: yeah I have no idea what mapper next did, but it took me to a whole new room :p
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: It's supposed to take you to the entries in the last search, in order.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: like 'mapper area roomname;mapper next'
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: oh. yeah it doesn't work with unmapped then. I don't see anything but I can probably write something up pretty quick. thanks!
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Now if only my 'mapper unmapped' actually did something.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Mapper unmapped here does work. I used to use it often to. It doesn't show anything behind cexits is all, IIRC.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: it does not.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Not one time has it done anything for me but put up an empty list.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Is there a way to get the mapper to dump the room list for the current area?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: you can open the db and search for the area name and all rooms will show up
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: I think it's mapper purgezone (area)
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: It's a plaintext database?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: id ont think they mean delete
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: do you mean delete?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: No, dump to the console.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: dont do purgezone yeah i thought so
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: ah, dump means something different
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: yeah nah open the Db you can use https://sqlitebrowser.org/
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: download the program there, open the db using that program, and yeah
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Man, they sure make these things easy, don't they.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: its pretty easy
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: it's easy if you have a good background in programming :p
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: its easy if you have 0 background in coding
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Jesus H Christ if you think 'oh just download this whole other program' is fine versus a simple dump command, I don't know.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: I mean it's a free program, fine, but good lord.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Type 'xm'. That lists all the rooms in the area...
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: i mean, thats the only way i know how
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: areia thats not a real command 
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: 'xm' does nothing for me
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: yeah I'm sorry there has to be an easier way than trying to show off your flashy pop open the db and do brain surgery knowledge.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Just because I have the knowledge to do this doesn't mean it's easy. 'You can do it' != 'easy'.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: i mean why would you want a console dump of every single room in the zone
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: i mean, to me easy means less than a 5 minute job. depending how fast your computer is, you could do this in less than 2 minutes
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Because I'm trying to figure out which 5 rooms I'm missing in this stupid maze and at least if I can see the room numbers I can track them without going back trhough every single spot.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: can you use unmapped in the maze? that's how I explore through them.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: type mapper unmapped here
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: I have YET to get unmapped to ever display anything other than an empty list. Just tried. empty list.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: usually the mazes dont have direct ways to walk through them even if you know the vnum
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: mine shows 2 rooms :P
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: depends on the "maze." a lot of them do.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Well the maze is split in six different pieces and there are aggro mobs everywhere and I've already spent an hour of my life on this.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: this mud uses random exit generator so the exits are never the same
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: in mazes
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: usually
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: which zone are you on i can help
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Lower planes.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: yeah that place is a nightmare
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: which pool are you in
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: there are areas that look like mazes that aren't actually though, which is where I use them.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Missing exactly 5 rooms and I have gone through my entire stamina bar with FLY on in each of them.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: no matter what vnums you have you'd never get out
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: so dont worry about the console thing
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: type where and let me know which pool you're in (the last few words of the room name)
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: I have gone through. Every. Single. One.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Ther'es no way to know which pool I'm even missing in.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Which one has those 5 rooms.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: you sound a bit upset, can I suggest a beer, maybe two?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: no
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: I'll take one
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: type where and give me your room name
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: I'm in Pandemonium right now, but I've gone through every area like crazy.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: okay disalaura is out
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Were you trying to help me escape? I figured it was obvious I could do that when I said I'd been to every one.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: getting out wasn't the problem
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: its actually difficult to be able to recall easily, but oh
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: reading is a lost art, lets not trash heroism just yet!
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: I mean it's not difficult, just tedious. Even without hunt.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BabyShark Kya Tech: When you do 'mapper unmapped here' you get literally no output at all? Even though those are mazes they should still show you the info you need. SO we should probably try to get to the bottom of that if we can.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: I get output, it's always an empty list.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Always 'found 0 unmapped exits'.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: that's what mine shows
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: My mapper works fine otherwise, just not the 'unmapped' command, and 'unexplored' doesn't exist.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: tech how recently did you get your client package? I started here about a month ago, not sure if you don't have an update or something.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: I got it a week ago.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BabyShark Kya Tech: Sorry, I don't mean this to be rude, because you probably aren't doing what I'm about to ask but just have to check. But you're doing mapper unmapped here from inside a pool, right? If you enter the amulet and do it it won't work because it's a different area from the pools though it may not be intuitive.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Whoever made these planes just does not value the player's time. It's making me actually angry that I can't at least tell which plane has rooms missing.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: when I enter the planes portal, i see 90 of 90 rooms explored
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: but in any of the pools, it shows as 76 of 90
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: thats the whole point of the area: not every part of the game needs to be easymode
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Yes, that's why I was in pandemonium, trying the unmapped here.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: or... they wanted it to be a challenge.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: 'Challenge'. Press the same six buttons for an hour hoping to get lucky. 'Challenge.'
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: I just purged a room from my DB and tried unmapped. It shows that room. Far as I've ever known, it doesn't show unmapped rooms in random mazes and behind cexits because it doesn't have the info to show those.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: New challenge: Stare at the same spot on your ceiling for ninteen hours without blinking. CHALLENGE
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: But it works as it should for me.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: is there a way to add color into a Simulate("")? i am using the colors in styles to parse out info
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: or mark your tracks by dropping items or gold on the floor, and use mobs as place markers
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: shrug
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: well yes. you could ask for tips, or accept the help you were offered or... I don't know, continue whining. That's surely a good investment of your time.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: I may as well have not spent the past hour trying to explore these areas, because without even knowing which one is missing rooms, I have to do every single one completely over again. CHALLENGE
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disalaura Tech: Fine, you don't agree with my criticism. I'll move on with my life.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: You might try a deep breath, or some fiber in your diet. Both will help you be less angry with life.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: i mean, why is it important to go find those rooms right now anyway? you'll be back to that zone hundreds of times in your lifetime probably, and you'll find it by happenstance
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BabyShark Kya Tech: Not sure if this was mentioned before I arrived, but you're using the mapper database that came with the client? Not one provided to you by another player?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: if what you're doing isnt fun for you, don't do it. im sure you're playing this game to have fun, but if you're not having fun you can come back to it later
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: they logged out to move on with their life. The trials of unmapped rooms were just too much.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BabyShark Kya Tech: Ah okay!
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: so friendly
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: i mean come back to the zone, not come back to the game. 
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: people tried to be friendly. Khad went and helped even though he misunderstood what she wanted and people were trying to give her tips and troubleshoot the problem with her. It was easier to complain than it was to accept help.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Acheos Tech: Should jsut answer the tech qurstion and leve it at that. "mapper help utils" - job done
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia snickers with Sir Acheos about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: that isnt anywhere near what the question was
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Acheos Tech: they can purge the area and spend the next 2 hours realising that it didnt help...
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Acheos Tech: his/her question was how to delete and area. period
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: it wasn't, as it turned out
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: they didnt ask to delete, they asked to "dump" as in SHOW the entire list of the area
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: He was trying to find rooms unexplored. Which is difficult to do in mazes--surprise.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: they said dump but they didnt mean purge they meant display
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: that wasn't the question, and aard isn't really that type of environment. people get troubleshooting help here all the time. It's just that most people generally listen to troubleshooting tips and don't fall back on screaming at the game for wasting their time and preventing them from getting 5 extra rooms they don't really need right now. Nothing wrong with troubleshooting for the normal folk, usually leads to good results and happy people.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sir Acheos rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: To the person asking about simulating colors for trigger testing: I *think* the echo command should suffice for that? Not certain, though. Colors aren't my strong point.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: that's how I would do it.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Labview Tech: is there any way to change the background image of mushclient?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: There is.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ#how-do-i-remove-or-change-the-aardwolf-logo-background-image-in-the-main-output
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Labview Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You're welcome.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Ooo, never knew this option existed: Ctrl+backspace deletes last word.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Just have to set it up with: \\\SetOption ("ctrl_backspace_deletes_last_word", 1) -- activate it
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: and ahift up.adros.enter?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: shift uparrow enter
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Also, another cool option... fading the background after so much time has passed.
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: How do you set that one up?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: \\\SetOption ("fade_output_buffer_after_seconds", 30)  -- some figure in the range 0 to 3600 and you can change the opacity, too: \\\SetOption ("fade_output_opacity_percent", 50)  -- fade to 50% (range 0 to 100)
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: my function is evaluating the color of the styles output. i can't find a way to use simulate with colors. is there a way to simulate this without using echos?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Are you using Simulate()?
T3/r7/2020-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Just do something like:  Simulate("whatever text you want to send\n")
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: anywhere that i can find winklegold spellup plugin?>.>
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: finger pwar, download his plugin manager, and use ppm help to find out how to install it
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: its as simple as typing one single command to download the spellup plugin after that
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: jah welcome
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: One of my mapper portals is highlighted in red when I list them with "mapper portals". What's going on?
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably bounceportal designated portal
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Trachx.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If you look at the line directly, then look at this line: |* Indicates designated bouncerecall/bounceportal | --> You'll see it kind of matches up.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Thanks trachx and crowley :) my mapper portals list was too big for me to be able to see how they matched up 
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Can you bold in Notepad++ for like regular typing use
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: maybe I'm just missing it, how do you purge all cexits in an area?
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Hmm, don't think that it exists for the area, only for the whole database.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Acheos Tech: you can only delete cexit by room, or ALL
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eroe whines pathetically about everything.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: allrighty, thanks.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: theres a script out there that does it, but you gotta find it
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Acheos Tech: you can purge an area, map included
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: yeah I'll just purge the whole area. I kept moving before my cexits were confirmed so they're all kinds of messed up now. thanks.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: 'mapper cexits here' and then just go to those rooms by clicking in list and then delete
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: mapper purgezone <areaname> :P
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: yeah thanks. I just purged. easier. I'll just go slower through these cexits.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: better would have been mapper cexits here -> find the roomid of the cexit that's wrong -> go to that room to delete that cexit
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: honestly that's more annoying to try to match up than just purging and walking through while I'm on this work call. :p
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: sooo why would my windows key no longer be functioning the same way after someone "cleaned" the office
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: could someone write me a script for scanning all SH areas for AFK t9s please?
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: oh ok. i was joking, carry on pls
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I want a series of commands to be executed every time I leave combat (invis, hide, sneak etc.). Since there are many ways of leaving combat, I have multiple triggers for flee, retreat, gain exp, don't gain exp, etc. But since they all execute the same commands, I'd like to store it in a single variable so I can change what commands I execute when I leave combat, for instance if I were to lose access to invis (which I just did after a rebuild).
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Is there a way to do so? Because when I try to store the commands in a variable that I call using the triggers, I get a message saying [string "Trigger: "]:1: unexpected symbol near '\'
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: just make your thing an alias, call it CombatFinished, and then when the trigger fires send CombatFinished to execute
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Ah, okay, so it's better to use an alias than a variable. Thanks Eroe. <3
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yeah i can help you 1 sec
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Gonna grab breakfast now, so might respond a bit late. Thanks for the help, too Veritheia.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Princess Alison hugs Veritheia.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Princess Alison hugs Eroe.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: yeah, I'd just use an alias. You don't want to get in the habbit of evaluating code from variables, and it's kind of hard to do that. you would have to store it as some kind of array, iterate and send.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: alternatively, you could have a plugin watch gmcp and see when you leave the combat state
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: then you don't need to have a bunch of triggers
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Durel, is there such a plugin?
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You'd need to write it.  But you have the info available via gmcp if you're comfortable with that kind of thing
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: surely there is an xp tracker or some such that already looks for end-of-combat.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: the only ones I've seen do it on triggers, as you'd want to know how much xp was gained.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: hmm.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I'm not comfortable writing my own plugins yet - although if I do one day, I'll use that. For now I'll stick to aliases. Thanks for the help everyone. I really appreciate it.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: it doesn't really help you to know when combat started and finished, the player could've ran in a fight. You need the stats about gains.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: you seemed to have missed the op, e.  its not the gains that matter here :p
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: The question was how to spellup immediately after combat ends
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: there are spellup plugins that probably do that too or do something very similar
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: not really. I was saying that an exp tracker has no use in tracking state without triggers to tell you what was gained. Making it utilize GMCP to determine combat start and finish is sort of redundant.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: unless noticing the end of combat is exactly the point - which it is, in this discussion.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: Pwar's plugin manager has a spellup plugin that will spell you up after a fight.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: that sounds promising.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WhatsApp KoopaTroopa Tech: gmcp has a specific thing for endof combat, its char.pos.status or something like that changing from status 8
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WhatsApp KoopaTroopa Tech: i think durel aalready said that
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: obviously. My point was only that you're unlikely to get what you're looking for in an exp tracker, it's most likely to be triggers which she's already got.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: nod koopa.  You'd want to track the previous state and if it ever changed from combat to something else then you fire off your alias
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: but check out the spellup plugin. it does track combat and when you're done spells you up.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: there ya go then :p
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Does it integrate racial skills and stuff?
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: and you can tell it to not cast spells, etc.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I think so? I've never been a race that does anything but I'm fairly certain yes.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I'm using winklegold and it didn't invis/hide me when I was a sprite :(
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I'll use aliases for now - it's an ugly hack, but it works and I'm going to be eldar for quite a while
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: So I shouldn't have to worry about it for a long time
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Thanks for all the suggestions. I might learn to write plugins at some point. :)
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eroe nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: you also have the option of using macro keys - essentially, use your alias with a single button-press.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: One last suggestion.  Instead of having a bunch of separate triggers that all call your alias, you may want to make one big trigger that has clauses for all of your cases.  That might be easier to maintain
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: of course, then you are pressing a button.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: oh no, d.  maintaining that kind of thing is a nightmare.  you end up re-writing the whole thing anytime something changes.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: that sounds like it would get hard for her to maintain eventually.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If you use regex you could trigger off of "something|something else|yet another thing"
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: yeah. or you just end up with a gigantic regex that's hard to work on.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: personal preference :P  You should see how big some of my regex statements are :P
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: no.  no i should not.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: multi-page :P
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: im not saying i havent stuffed multi-page triggers into my old zmud.  im just saying - never again.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I understand and I wouldn't recommend it for everyone :P
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I would advocate for putting them all in one group!
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: the only really better part of that mess with mushclient is that it probably wont choke on real regex.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: any familiar with dinv that i can bother for a while?
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel perks up, something must have grabbed his attention.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: don't listen to Durel - he likes to pretend but he doesn't know anything about it
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Veritheia.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eroe nods quietly to himself.  What a wacko.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: wait... isn't he the one whose webpage i have opened currently? 
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: his twin is also named Durel
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: so... i just remort.... and i tried to use dinv set wear thief.... and dinv took out many of my higher level equipment... is there anything i should do after i remort to prevent this?
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: the other dural is the one that codes, this one just takes the credit
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: gonna pose my noob questions >.< just came back like 2 days ago and everything is confusing... loving dinv but still learning how to use it
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Try "dinv refresh all"
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm not quite sure I understand the issue you're having, but 99% of dinv problems come down to not having it refreshed :P
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: basically, i remort. i typed dinv set wear thief, and it took out random gears from different levels lol
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: by took out, you mean it pulled items from containers for you to wear?  You are T1 so you could use gear up to level 11.  Is that what you mean?
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: for example, it took out a level 100 dagger when i have higher level daggers... and it took out a bunch of level 170-200 gears.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: yes, it pulled items from containers for me to wear. right now, they are all sitting in my inventory.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: but, as a level 1, i can't use any of those lol
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Try "dinv refresh all" and then let's put your stuff back where it came from with "dinv store all".  That should clear it up.  I suspect if you then do "dinv set wear thief" it will get the stuff you want.
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: okay will try that again
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: okay... it is weird, it didn't store any of the items it took out (random stuff from level 90-200) hmmm
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: i organised the bags based on the examples in the wiki 
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I suspect that the reason you have some higher-level stuff in your inventory is because dinv never saw it in a container.  It needs to know what container things are in before it can put them back
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: do you have invmon enabled?  When dinv loaded did it report any errors or warnings?
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: for example, type "invmon" to toggle it.  It should be enabled for dinv to recognize where stuff is
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: it was enabled. maybe i will try organising them again
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: so, to organise things that i am not wearing, i use dinv organize right?
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: sure, that's one way you could do it
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: did a dinv organise, now doing a dinv refresh, den a dinv wear set thief :)
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: sounds good :)
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: haha it is still weirding out for me
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: i did all those, closed my client, when i do a dinv set wear thief, it took out items from all different levels
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: and for some reason, when i do dinv organize, the ring of the dark eight refuses to go in... dark magic lol
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ok, let's eliminate some of the easy stuff :P  What version are you using?  Try "dinv version"
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: 0.1.3
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: well, plugin version 0.1.3, the rest are 0.1
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Where did you get that one?  That's a pre-release that I never published :P  Someone else had that a week or two ago :P
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: spai
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: Me :)
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KFBR392 Limunious Tech: ohhhhh busted!!!
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: i have no idea where i got that.....i was looking online for stuff since i came back 2 days ago and somehow found this?
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: i blame google!
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Clearly someone is hacking Durel's computer and publishing broken versions of dinv!
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: i might have done a random search on github i think?
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: go to the link you see with "showdesc durel" and get it from github :P
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Actually I never even gave out a version of dinv with that version number.  I suspect someone else took it and hacked it up and put it somewhere google found it :P
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: sorry but really a noob here... do i copy the whole folder of aard-master-plugin or do i copy the content within?
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: click the download button and pick the zip option
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: and do i remove the crazy version i have currently?
T3/r7/2020-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: yeah :P
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: okay... now i have the 2.0051
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: is that the correct version? lol
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: There we go :)  That's right
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: do i have to redo all the things i did earlier? like dinv set etc?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You'll want (ok maybe not want but need :P) to rebuild your inventory now
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: definitely doing that lol
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Also, a pro-tip is to do your build at hestor's room if you don't have the identify wish.  It costs a little gold but you get the full identify with resists, weapon damtypes, etc.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: err hester* not hestor
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: just curious.. currently, 2.bag is my portal bag but i wish to change it to 3.bag... how do i do  that?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: going to hester
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: you can give your self items in your inventory to move them around, but dinv really doesn't care where stuff is
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: so for example, you could "give haagen 3.bag" and that would move 3.bag up to the top and make it 1.bagt
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: It should be "give 3.bag haagen" I think
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: oh, yeah use that one instead :P
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I don't use normal give very often anymore :P
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: What do you use in its place?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I just wear sets and store stuff for the most part
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Ah, I use give often for goals and buying/selling stuff
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Oh sorry.  I meant I don't use give to reorder my inventory.  I was referring to the trick I just mentioned.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: okay.. now that i am at hester.. how do i rebuild with the identify?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: You don't need to do anything special, just do it normally and it will auto identify using hester's services
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Just do a normal dinv build there.  The "identify" command just gives more info when you are in that room so dinv will pick that up
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: okay building now
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: so... 30k gold and 12mins, the rebuild is complete...do i have to redo a dinv organise add bags again? (i am following your guide) lol
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I honestly don't know what that earlier version saved.  Hmm
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: try "dinv organize display" and see if it looks like what you want
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If it does, then you're probably fine with what is stored
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: No containers with organizational queries were found 
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: guess reinstalling removed all of those
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, that would make sense.  You'll need to do that again at some point
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: gonna copy your dinv organize add bag type armor maxlevel 160 || type weapon maxlevel 160 || type light maxlevel 160 || key aardwolf maxlevel 160 lol
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Just for sanity sake though, try "dinv set wear thief" and see if you're getting the right gear though
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: assuming that works, then you can organize it later if you want
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: it works now!!!!
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: omg thank you!
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel enthusiastically high-fives Haagen!
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: somehow... i kinda lost my gloves of aardwolf hmmm
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Cool.  Sorry you ran into that.  I'm not sure what old stuff is floating around on google :P
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: nah, was entirely on me lol
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: teaches me not to randomly download stuff lol
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Always a good lesson :P 
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Also, if you are new to dinv, remember that you'll need to do a dinv refresh or dinv refresh all if things leave your inventory and you pick them back up.  The most common way that happens is if you die and your items are placed on your corpse
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: The refresh should be fast though.  It doesn't need to do a full build or identify stuff it's already seen
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: thanks! will be reading based on ur guide again
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: what do trivia point tokens, qreset tokens, christmas cards and pies classify as under dinv?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You can always "id [item]" and see how identify treats it.  In dinv, it just uses the same field names and values that you see from the output of the identify command.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: okay thanks!
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: So for example, I just identified a qreset token.  It has fields like "type treasure", "wearable hold", "level 1", etc.  You can search/get/put/store items using queries based on those values.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: so i can classify them based on key words too?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: So you could do things like "dinv search type treasure level 1" for example.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yes, you can use keywords also
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: For example (with the qreset token): dinv search keyword qreset
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: okay, that helps a lot! thank you!
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If you want to get overwhelmed, do "dinv help query" and that will show all of the possible things you can key off of :P
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: that.... is a long list of query lol
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel grins evilly.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so I recently got vps, and noticed there are a lot of connection attempts to telnet/ssh/www
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so I create interface on telnet port, that accepts any credentials and allows access to milnet
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: your adsl router allows connections in from the outside?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but so far all connections are very alike : some login/password followed by stacked enable, system, shell, sh,  /bin/busybox CORONA/TGOMB/IHPSU/whatever
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is vps, not router
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oh, sorry i misread that as vpn
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so you have a vps out in the wild somewhere that someone is trying to hack
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: those are automated scans, it just has public IP and I opened port 23
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you really should disallow all ports in other than ssh and that shouldn't be password enable but rather have a good/strong ssh keypair
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try it for self: telnet gemini.ldaldx.eu 23 :P
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for ssh it is better to use keys than passwords
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: for any login, yes
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also non standard port for ssh, though I noticed that there are scans from multiple sites that try to scan non standard ports
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: passwords are way to easy to brute force your way through
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and on your client side you can use a key agent, which makes life pretty easy
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right, I also noticed some attempts to use root/vizxv - that is IIRC Dahua weakness
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: even scp allows you to work with keypairs, so you don't have to relly on ftp to transfer data to your server
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and with agent forwarding on your ssh connection you don't need to install your private keys on the server, but you can still use them when you ssh in to your server
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so from your server you can do a git pull/push with your own private keys without them being on the server
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess you usually just use direct connections, I mean client (your PC) - git server
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: no, when i used to run a remote site, i'd do my coding at home, then push it up to a git server, log in from the remote server and pull the changes
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: version control systems make admin or remote sites so much easier
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: of (not or)
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: actually vcs make it accountable
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: well yes but you can also roll back to a working version when you cocked stuff up
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway it is really good idea to manage servers with some vcs, that way you can decrease errors, and if errors happen you know what caused those errors
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: once my previous boss used rm <database dir> instad of mv <database dir>
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oops
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that is when you hope the last backup was not to /dev/null
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: even with backup, you had to reenter data for that day
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as that system was backed up only once per day
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: at my current work we use daily backup + incrementals every 10-20 minutes that are transferred to other site
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: we all learn from our and other's mistakes
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so worst case scenario you can lose 30-40 minutes of work + time required for restoring
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it's why i use bitbucket and github for my coding projects, it's no 100% safe but if i didn't have off site backups i'd be screwed with all my hardware failures
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Is there anyway to add Neutralizer shard using dinv?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Should I use the drivers that come with my new GPU, like 6 months old or download latest Nvidia drivers?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: get the latest drivers, but if you install the ones that came with, you can upgrade
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: nvidia experience
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: google <current.drivers.version> problem first
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: 3 different answers lol.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Which one to pick.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Huko is generally an idiot, so I'd go with option 1 or 3. Personally, I'd google for the latest stable version.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: cept my option is the best option
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually you want to use newest drivers, but if they were released yesterday then it is possible they will crash your PC
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: <insert whining about personal attacks here>
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Eroe.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Gotcha, tnx!
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}King Pwar Tech: I go with the latest driver unless I encounter an issue, then I will consider trying earlier versions to find a stable
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: PWAR
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: PWAR
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: THE GOD
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}King Pwar Tech: jesus.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Huko :(
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: we're supposed to be friendos
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}King Pwar Tech: hello friendo
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Don't do it, Pwar. He's not worth the headache and the harassment.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: ive been telling saraid to tell you i said hi
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: OK, tnx all.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: in W10 installing older and upgrading is probably better approach, once you installed newest it may be not so easy to install older version, but you still should be able to revert to older version if you upgraded
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Just ask his former coworker about harassment. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}King Pwar Tech: crowley some have said the same of you :o
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: PERSONAL HARASSMENT
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: King Pwar tickles Mr. Crowley.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: crowley hates me because when the newbies ask which s&d to use, i always say yours is the best
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: somehow I think it's more along the lines of a confused kid babbling about things he doesn't know much of, but lets pretend it's that.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The difference is, Pwar, I don't have public channels on excepting for tech and gametalk, and everyone loves my games. I have select people on my flist, even though it's full. And, I tend to genuinely help people. Of course, I won't deny being a jackass to those who deserve it, though.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: King Pwar slowly disappears back to idling.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I could give a rat's ass about whose S&D you direct them to, Huko. That doesn't faze me one bit. Why I don't like you is because you're annoying twit who has constantly asked for bot-like plugins.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: hell yeah that card counter i asked for, also id like it to play my games for me
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yeah, I'll let you stick to that story.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: One last thing, a normal ATX case with no extra fans will make my GPU I am getting run under load no more then 65 degrees Celsius.. I plan to get a gaming case with a minimum of two inlet 12mm fans and 1 outlet.. How many degrees can I suspect for GPU under load? Like 53ish?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: How much degrees with 3 extra fans I mean can I expect.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: For GPU.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: depends what inlet temp is
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: I see, it will be nice if it can be like 50 Celsius and under.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Maybe 5-7 fans.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Anyways, I am getting my 1080P Ultra gaming rig in 3 weeks, will update then :)
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it depends what radiator GPU uses, you need effective way to move heat from GPU to radiator and then effective way to cool that radiator
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: adding more fans - it won't probably make a huge difference maybe 2-5 C
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: dang, should my pc be at 50c?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: You mean heatsink on GPU?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: im at 60-70c
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: I don't know what radiator is.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually - air flow through front inlet, and leaves case at back / top
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: my liquid cooling doesnt turn on till 80
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Yes, I want 3 or 2 front inlets, 2 outlet ontop, and 1 oulet at back
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: to remove heat usually stock fan on GPU is enough, but then you may have other heat sources in your case
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: it depends gt *nod
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: oops
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for example my case has special ducts and fans to remove heat from RAMs
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i use my pc as a heater
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: OoO, sounds like a nice Case layout Trachx.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I use my APC as heater, pretty good for heating yeast
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway usually in case you have following heat sources: GPU, CPU, RAM, NVMe, motherboard, extra cards like RAID/fiber ethernet
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and PSU; GPU, CPU, PSU - those usually have fans to remove heat produced by them
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: what case did you get roque
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: This sucks, google says. Adding an additional pair of intake and exhaust (for a total of four fans) will likely lower your temperatures anywhere from two to five degrees. That can be significant but anything beyond that and you are likely to see a diminished return in the range of one to two degrees, if that much.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: what case did you get
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: my case is nice, but based on testing, they said removing part of it gives better temps lol
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: seriously, more fans are generally not your issue. make sure your PSU is mounted in the right place, make sure you buy a good CPU fan, buy good thermal paste, and have a fan that hits your PCI cards. also your GPU probably comes with cooling of some kind. You're likely fine.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: s/generall not your issue/generall not the answer.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: https://www.evetech.co.za/evetech-ares/best-deal/6666.aspx
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: 65$ case is rather cheapo
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: I like it's design.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: what does it mean connection timed out when connecting to aardwolf code = 10060?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: the error message is unable to connect to "Aardwolf", code 10060 (Connection timed out)
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It means just that, the the connection timed out. In other words, it did not establish a connection between your computer and Aardwolf in a specified amount of time (30 seconds, 60 seconds, whatever is the preset)
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: okies, wondering what is causing it thanks!
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It happens when you drop connection (power outage, internet outage), or there is too long of a lag time response along the way.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: is there a way to customize the font in blowtorch?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: last win10 update killed sticky notes
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: i had a pile of important info on it... gone
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: i tell you, next huge crash will be because of cheap amateur coders in important jobs
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: I still on Win 7 Ulti :)
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: It looks like 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer made Failurette Noegel cry in exasperation again...
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Is a 32 inch screen to big to game from, when it's like right in front of you while gaming via PC?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should see whole screen without moving your head
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just test whether you can do that - place a tape in bottom left and top right and look
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer goes, "OK".
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: Curved monitor?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer shakes his head.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: I use a 34" ultrawide for gaming and it works fine.  It has a slight curve.  I am going to get the Samsung 49" Odyssey G9 when it comes out though.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer swoons in absolute ecstasy.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whoadude Tech: no monitor is too big when you can just play in windowed mode
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: I have an 11" monitor and I hate it haha
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: The 49" has a really aggressive 1000R curve
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: My PC desk isn't huge, but I think I will love a 24inch screen, is a 24 inch screen good for gaming when sitting like 3 feet away.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: a 32 would be to big, anyone have experience with 24?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: I installed desk mounted monitor arm for my 34" yesterday
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: I used to have 2 24"
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: i had 24 for the longest time
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Is gaming fun on 24?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: cant say i was a fan of it. but it only had 1080p. 
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whoadude Tech: just get the 32 and use a window 
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: maybe with good reso and framerate and laglesness and without ghosting, its cool?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Maybe.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: What resolution are you looking to game at?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: 1080P Ultra.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: i think 3 feet away 1080p you can actually see the damn pixels
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Omphalon is agreeing with that Richard Fuel person again...
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: get 27" with 1440p for gaming.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: I like gaming at 1440p
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: Almost any 5 year old graphics card can do 1080P ultra
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: My bast-spellup plugin isn't re-casting my spells when they wear off.. any ideas?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Are the spells added already?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: TBH I never got the spellup to work, I think you have to set it up first
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: check that they show up under 'bsp'
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: it was working fine before my "leave of absence"
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: and yes, they are there
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Also check that you don't have it paused by typing 'bsp resume'
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: I have sremoved all, then sadd all several times
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: also paused then resumed
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: try reinstalling?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: I removed then re-added also
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: or is there a better way?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: unless youre stuck and like Bast, pwar has one in his plugin manager that is pretty good
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: can't hurt to try
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: I started having a lot of problems like that with Bast's spellup also. No problems with Pwar's since I switched a while back.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: to add your clan skill you can just SetClanSn (spell number) and find it on slist
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Omphalon is agreeing with that Areia person again...
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Amusingly, I've had very few problems with Bast's, at all. *shrug*
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: me too,usually... this is a first for me.. after over a decade
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: is there a way in mushclient to remove the .state files for a specific plugin? Or can it only be done manually?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You would have to seek out the state file for it, no other way that I'm aware of to do it automatically.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: roger that, thanks for the help folks
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But the easiest way to do that is to get a download called "Everything", because it's a much faster search program for Windows. Then copy the plugin ID, paste in search, and it'll bring it up in less than a couple seconds at most.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: I use NP++
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedi Kandorr Tech: +1 on everything
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: NP++ isn't... a search program...
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frsh Prnce Kelaire Tech: Technically it can be kind of used like one :-p  Albeit slow
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: it has a very efficient search feature
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley beams a smile at Jedi Kandorr.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: I just searched the entire mushclient directory (recursively) for the plugin ID, took less than a second
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Getting the plugin id, not a problem. But... now can you find the actual file with it?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: it found it
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: in that search
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Not bad, then.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: to be fair, I use 256G SSD's
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: so results will vary
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Same. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered somewhere else
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: if you have the plugin ID you could use the windows equivalent of `find worlds/plugins/state -name *<ID>`
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: whatever that is
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: well pwar's plugin seems to be working as it should
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: pwar has more than one plugin, which one?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: the spellup plugin
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: pwar has a spellup plugin?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: didn't even know
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: yep
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Powdered Milkweed Tech: the ppm plugin as welll
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I think it's a fork of Winkle's.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}King Pwar Tech: not exactly, I have a modified version of winkle's spellup plugin on my plugin repo
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}King Pwar Tech: with a few minor hacked in fixes
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: bast-spellup stopped working for me
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: winkle had a spellup plugin?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: He did.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: rip bast :(
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: guy had such promise. shame he died so young
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: anybody have plans of taking over his work?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}King Pwar Tech: I didn't know Bast had passed away, that is too bad
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: to my knowledge he did not _actually_ die
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Good lord, Fiendish, don't scare us like that.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: King Pwar boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it was more a commentary on how hard it is to get secondary developers on projects like this
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: death is one of those things that either you are or aren't, there's no middle
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: bus factor 1 applies also if you just give up
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You could figuratively die without literally dying.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: What about the cat?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: I have no issues taking over somebody else's work, with permission if they are able to give it
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Bast hasn't logged in for 176. Schroedinger's Cat theorem applies here. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Of course, I mean 176 days. Not minutes, hours, seconds, months, years...
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: bastmush is GPLed. you don't need permission
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: it's a personal preference, to get permission
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: "let's not bicker and argue over who killed who..."
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: personally I think there should be a single archive/place to find all aard mush plugins
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: with a single installer manager (like Pwar's)
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yeah, that'll never happen.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: abelinc has something like that, but its missing some stuff
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can collect them all, sure, but not with a single installer.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}King Pwar Tech: I wanted to achieve that with my ppm initially, I was going to have it be a repo for everyone's plugins
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}King Pwar Tech: I just didn't progress that far into it
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: why not a single installer? Plenty of package manager's out there handle multiple sources
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles at King Pwar's joke.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes, but then you'd have to convince every plugin writer to adhere to the package installer's instruction.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: (I.E. all of the *Nix package managers)
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: there is a few people very competitive*coough* about their plugins, so theres hard to come to an agreement
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}King Pwar Tech: well, all it is, is an xml format. you could have each developer have control of their own xml even so they can update their own stuff
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Huko, once again, you don't even know what you're talking about.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: then the primary site just needs to track the individual XML's
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Considering that public plugins are all available to be modified by anyone, the only way a person would be competitive about something is to not release it at all.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: it was only an idea to benefit the community, not saying it will be done
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at The God Thridi.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The other issue is that you'll have different versions of the same plugin (take S&D, for example, there's at least 4, if not more, versions of it). So you'd have to have a way to say "download only Crowley's S&D", or "Download only Pwar's S&D".
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: when Lasher asked me to takeover Starling's, I re-versioned it
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}King Pwar Tech: if they had different plugin ids I don't think it would be an issue
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yep, and when you left, I took over it.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And I made it better. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: plus the installer can differentiate based on download location
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes, but you'd still need to tell the main installer to download the correct one by pointing to it.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: like composer and such... composer require <location>/<package>
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: <location> being which repo
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: youd just put like crowley S&D improved by Huko and then yours would just be crowleys S&D
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley pats Huko on his head.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: ppm install crowley/s&d
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The only thing you would improve is the MUD, but only when you leave.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: play nice, Crowley lol
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i feel like youre so lucky i enjoy your banter
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: imagine if i was wars, how mcuh trouble youd get into
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: As if I'm afraid?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Can't get in trouble for speaking the truth.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: I wouldnt be afraid of that either
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the only thing I don't like about pwar's plugin manager is that historically he has put zip files in github but didn't then have the source contents of those zips on github as development repos
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}King Pwar Tech: for the convenience of downloading a single file yeah, this is a caveat of the system. I also wish it had builtin update notes but I never got around to that either
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: finish what you start, then... lesson of the day :P
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}King Pwar Tech: start a million things, finish as many as you can until you die
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I think properly you need the package store to be separate from the source that builds those packages, like github's releases section where you can upload assets 
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I've started a million games, but haven't finished nearly 1/8th of them.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: wow, finishing 125,000 games is impressive.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i was gonna say that
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But I didn't say I finished 125,000. I said I haven't finished nearly an 1/8th of them.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What I want to know, Fiendish, is why colors don't display on the main window properly, but display in the commlog properly. For instance, 'echo @Dtesting @wcolors' should produce two distinct colors, but they do not. However, if you tech @Dtesting @wcolors, it will.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you ask me like I know things
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The nerve of me.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: just be you!
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: echo testing colors   _does_ show two different colors
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IAC DO Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: For you it shows a distinct difference in the window?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: echo @Dtesting @wcolors   _does_ show two different colors
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: https://i.imgur.com/FdzYJHQ.png --> that's what I see.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But in the commlog, I can see the gray and the white dinstinctively.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Also, not the only one to experience the issue. Wonder if it's some setting or other.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: https://imgur.com/a/OHC5NPE
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: type "seegray"
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: my function reads the color from styles. i can't figure out a good way to simulate this for testing. what's the best way to simulate to read color styles?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i see only grey like crowley said
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: "You will no longer use the gray color code."
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: oh. well type it again
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So, not that setting.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: simulate styles? styles are just a table
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so I guess make a table
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: 14120 if ya got mapper
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley looks at IAC DO Fiendish ponderingly.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yah, like i read the output from the mud and if it is a certain color then i do some manipulation. everything seems to work but i don't have many opportunities to test it
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But... what would I do with that table?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: testing
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh, Zhalut asked a question, haha.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: As a side note, it affects everything. 'color 256', while I can see the xterm colors as gray, etc, not a single ANSI color appears gray.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what do they look like?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Just regular white: https://i.imgur.com/PtmQk1t.png
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I checked ansi colors to make sure the gray and the white weren't the same color, and they most decidedly are not.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what is your bold black color set to?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Bold black is currently set to 'gray'
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: and you ruled out 'colorset' changes?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: like this? https://imgur.com/a/t9Q2bVk
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What colorset changes would affect it, though, Thridi?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: it changes what color has what value
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at IAC DO Fiendish.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: colorset only changes channel defaults
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: or right, sorry
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I was going to say. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: is that the only missing color?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Just to check, I did just do colorset brights/normal to see if it changed anything, but no. And yes, it's the only missing color.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: https://i.imgur.com/7E7s9DY.png
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: have you tried restarting mushclient?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Many times.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: This has gone on across reboots, too.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Not a new issue, just the first real time I've had to actually discuss it.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: have you isolated mush vs aard? like just grab mush portable, connect to aard and see if it's something in your settings on mush.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: does mapper goto work when you havent explored the room
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: No, Huko...
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: why of course. the mapper just uses telepathy and is like "golly gee, I know where this room is"
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: with your hate of me, youre flaming a newbro, not me
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: stop jumping to hate so quickly
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But... if you didn't know the answer to that question...
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I would presume someone who is a computer building wizard and the leader of a clan might know a bit about how the mapper works.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: wtf clan leader?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: im literally the lowest rank in my clan
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You are not.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: lowest rank meaning, lowest ranked person
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You obviously do not know how clan ranks work...
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Sentinel is one step below leadership. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Racconto Tech: maybe the mapper identifies the room as adyacent to next room number
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: sentinel is literally the second lowest rank
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Again, Huko, you do not know how clan ranks work.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: or is the top the worse? thats silly
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Your lowest rank is Stendarr's Child, followed by Spectator... all the way up to the highest rank you can get without becoming a leader, which is Sentinel.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: oh wow
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eroe boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i think it was because i was like high rank in chaos as one of the two people playing in it :P
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: anyways, thanks for help
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: crowley your ansi colors don't look default. what happens if you set them to default?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: No change.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: As far as gray goes.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yeah, I'm just completely baffled by it. I could try the suggestion of a vanilla mushclient, though.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Let me test that real quick. (And thanks, whomever suggested it, it got lost with the Huko question)
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: well...
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: oh here's a thought
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Hmm?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what do you get when copying color codes on that echo?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: if you echo, ctrl+D, then paste that into tech, what colors show?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Highlighted, Ctrl+D, produced this: @wtesting colors
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: lol hm
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE STOLE YOUR D
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I felt like something was missing... I blame Lorena.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: that plugin uses my color code though
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ok one more
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: enable packet debugging and see what you get back in the packets
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: disable all other plugins and see if the result is the same
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: like we need to know if you're actually getting those ansi sequences or not
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: How would I enable the packet debugging?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: edit
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: ctrl+alt+f11
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Ah, okay.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it's gonna start spamming you. I only want to see the echo
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I gotta find it now.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: echo testing   65 63 68 6f 20 40 44 74 65 73 74 69 6e 67 20 40  wcolors..          77 63 6f 6c 6f 72 73 0d 0a
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: echo @Dtesting   65 63 68 6f 20 40 44 74 65 73 74 69 6e 67 20 40  wcolors..          77 63 6f 6c 6f 72 73 0d 0a
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Try this one more time...
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: echo @Dtesting @   65 63 68 6f 20 40 44 74 65 73 74 69 6e 67 20 40  wcolors..          77 63 6f 6c 6f 72 73 0d 0a
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Racconto Tech: is there a pluggin to hunt-search?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That was with @Dtesting @wcolors
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: that looks like your send. I need your receive
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Hmm, let me see if I can find that, then.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Racconto Tech: something that moves you in the hunting direction 
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Interesting on this. It sent twice: Incoming packet: 54675 (32 bytes) at Friday, May 22, 2020, 6:27:12 PM .[1
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Bah, I'll paste in a note.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: looks like you sent twice with different starting colors?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But I didn't.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That's the weird part.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: In fact, here's another instance: https://i.imgur.com/mwpAO90.png
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: Maybe silly question but would it work to just to go world properties>ansi colour>and make sure bold black is set to gray / #808080
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So for some reason or another, it sends it once with what I assume is the correct escape code for gray, but doesn't push it through, but then sends it a second time with the wrong color.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Already covered that, Brillig, but thank you.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I guess now I need to look up the escape codes
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: tech with fiendish and abelinc , it's like some things are almost ivarlike in their antiquity
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: is abelinc still usually wrong?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, Fiendish, 30 is black, and 37 is white, but I don't know where 38 is coming from.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: 38 is not a color
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So 1;30m would be bold black.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I knew it wasn't a color, but the packets being sent show 0;38m in place of 1;30m.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: At least on the one that sends through.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh..six zmud users
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Hmm, I wonder...
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I only get it once
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: and it's obviously correct
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I just tried debugging packets with 'colorset colors' to see what happens there. I'm going to send you the results.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: remember screenshots will be easiest
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: https://pastebin.com/tSFg71yG --> Pastebinned it since it's so much.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: For some reason, it's taking the command once, but sending the info twice, once with the gray color, and once with the errant [0;38m code.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I would expect you to see it twice then
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I would expect to see it twice, too, but I don't. Hmm.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: oh I see
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the second one is simulated
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so something is blocking your main output and then simulating new output
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Hmmm...
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: which of your active plugins call Simulate?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I have no idea what it would be, either.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: None that I'm aware of.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But, going to disable them one by one and see.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Gone through all the plugins that don't come with AardMUSH, not a single one affects it... now time to look through triggers.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: by all means go through mine as well if they'll let you
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And it looks like it's one of my triggers... Now to figure out which one.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And the only trigger I have that uses Simulate is not causing that problem... oy vey.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: probably one of mine then
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, I'm going to write a quick function to ease the pain of disabling all 104 triggers one by one through the GUI, so I'll let you know which one it falls on.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: does dtrack have an automatic quickstart?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: ... I.. I just went through all my triggers, and not a single one of them reproduced the error.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: like can I use it without learning how to use it?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: isnt dtrack always running?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yeah, dtrack is always running.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I meant dinv
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the other d thing
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Fiendish, if I 'disable triggers' from the GUI, does that disable ALL triggers, including plugins?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i only have room in my head for two d things.  that aint one of them.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: durel's inventory plugin
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Then it probably is one of your plugins, damn it. Now to find out which one.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: not many use simulate
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: start with #sub
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: There's a learning curve to it, slightly, but you can do dinv build confirm to start it, and some of the basic commands are setting up the priorities.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what if I don't want to set up priorities and I want it to have good defaults?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: #sub it is.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what substitutions do you have defined?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, it does have some defaults already that anyone can use, but they can be tailored to suit the player's playstyle.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: 1: "(Crowley)" #nocase #alone --> "%1" 2: "(Juliet)" --> "%1 ---> Just those two subs.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: 1: "(Crowley)" #nocase #alone --> "@M%1$C 2: "(Juliet)" --> "@G%1$C
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Might have been one of the gags, though, because removing two of them seemed to have fixed it.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ooh
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what gags?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Found the culprit: #gag {|====Slinks====|}
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: that explains it.  slinks are worse than leprechauns.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But... that doesn't explain others who have had the same issue. Hmm.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you don't know
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: intermittent or consistent error?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: also I just added that gag and I still see the colors
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: which makes sense, because there's no way that that gag is the problem lol
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That's odd, because I've just added it again, colorset colors, no gray, ungag it, colorset colors, I see gray.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft forces a gag into IAC DO Fiendish's mouth.  Ahhh, blessed quiet.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: https://i.imgur.com/Wm0DvlF.png
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yeah, I have no idea why it's causing it, but for one reason or another, it is. :\
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Ooh, narrowed it down to the pipe character. #gag {|} produced the problem.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: At least, for me.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ok me too
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I was testing it wrong
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: then I know what the problem is I guess
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I wonder if it's treating it like an 'or' separate you'd see in regex, so it's looking for (?:|blahblahblah)?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: part of an optimization that converts your patterns into triggers
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: obviously I should just use regular expressions 
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: and skip the whole conversion
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but then everyone needs to learn regular expressions
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Would explain others who might experience the problem if they gag lines from Identify or anything really that has a pipe in it.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: try escaping it?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: How feasible would it be to just add a #regex option for the best of both words? Then you could do #gag {|whatever|} or do #gag {and|or|but} #regex
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: escape your face
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ohhh, if only.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And the first would take it literal, and the second would make it a regex expression.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: could do...
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What's really confusing, still, is why it only affected gray color.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: fiendish, you got time / can i interject with a mush question of my own?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: part of the gray or un-gray color code got gagged due to rogue or-separator?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I have time
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It didn't really get gagged. It got rewritten with an invalid ansi escape sequence.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i have mime.  careful, it might be contagious :p
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: about once a week when I open mush your channels plugin seems to get corrupted and it removes itself and i have to set the comm log up again.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: usually with an erorr of the state file is too big
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Kalsch, are you using a custom theme?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oo, state file too big, that's different.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: im not logging anything, so im not sure how / why the state file gets overloaded
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: state file and logging are unrelated
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: is 4 tabs considered too many?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: never heard of a too big state file
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I have 8.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So it's not tab-related.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: wow
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I do know that a custom theme from Khadaji caused the commlog to not even load.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: its not a custom theme, i think the silver one that is built in
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: can you send me a copy of that file kalsch?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: She claims it was likely due to the Draw3D function that was added in the last snapshot.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: would it be named the same thing every time, fiendish?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: first time I'm hearing of it
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yes kalsch
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: state files are always named with the world ID and plugin ID 
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: and those don't change from time to time
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: \worlds\plugins\state\e0eb198d8d5698e3b2f61483-b555825a4a5700c35fa80780-state.xml
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That's the state file you want.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ideally you'd send me one that is broken
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at IAC DO Fiendish.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: oh its not currently broken, i can wait until it happens again and make a copy of it
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: the "fix" is just to re-add teh plugin
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: but it loses the state
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: that makes literally no sense
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: well when i say it loses the state i mean when i readd it i have no tabs or settings
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: have to reposition it, change font, size, add tabs, change channels / etc
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yes those are all state
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: my first thery was its because i keep mush open for days at a time, but even when closing it i would still get it on open sometimes
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: i know at least 1 other person expierneces it too
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: My mushclient is up nearly 24/7.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So it wouldn't be length of time, either.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i used to have issues like that with background file backup utilities and the occasional virus scanner - been a few years, tho.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yeah, this kind of problem...I have to think that it's like Mannec said
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: that some external program or scanner is flagging the file and corrupting it or somethin glike that?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hopefully not a problem with the drive or OS
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: seems less likely that that would always affect the same file
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: antivirus software is all basically terrible though in a million ways
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but I've never heard of it deleting xml files
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: just the built in windows security and the occasional Dell thing that does a driver and misc scan, i will check with the other person - maybe they have a dell too
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: anyway I wish I had a better answer, but I don't think this is actually an issue with the plugin
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: that file should never be more than a few K
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Mine is 24kb right now as it is.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yeah but kalsch sent me a screen shot saying it's more than 5MB
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What exactly is IN that file??
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: sounds like nothing
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: oh i didnt even realize the screenshot one was so big - i took that a while ago when it broke once. Its currently not tho. i will remember to keep it if i get it again
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: thats a pretty big size difference
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: i take it there isnt anything in the plugin itself that could really go haywire and add 1000% more data to the stte file?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: not unless you added thousandsd of tabs
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the size will increase a little for each tab, because the format is not compact at all, but not a _lot_ per tab
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Pretty sure he'd notice if he added thousands of tabs, though.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: never kno
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I mean, if he's right-clicking 'add tab' 10,000 times... and he doesn't notice it, I'd say he's a prime candidate for a psych ward.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: like...you can look inside the file. it's just text. the contents shouldn't be terribly mystifying
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: well its definitely just 4 tabs alwasy:P
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I hate redoing plugins that mostly work
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I feel that pain all too well.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: doing the right thing for this sub plugin will take many orders of magnitude more work than doing the wrong thing
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh yeah, to add to bugs... copying large amounts of text from the commlog seems to bug out with missing letters every so often. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: how large is large?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, I did a clan member interview that lasted over an hour, so... and that was about... 100 lines total, maybe?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: my god, that's an interrogation
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hardly
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: back when I was less of a deadbeat, my interviews were pretty long
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Scars: The longest I've interviewed someone was 3 hours. Mainly because they were dumb and proving not to be a good fit in my eyes. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: and you had to make me laugh
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So it seems that a lot of it comes from where the commlog's width ends. I just copied 13 lines from my group tab, and though it didn't happen on every line, the common factor for each missing letter was because it was the first letter after the commlog wrapped to the next line.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yikes
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: would you be willing to file a report on github about that?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I can certainly do that. If I could find some way to reliably reproduce the problem, I'd give more details. It does seem to happen regardless of color codes being accepted or not, too.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But I'll go into detail about how you might be able to reproduce it.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I appreciate it
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Posted on the github.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: and you said something about 3d rects?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Sorry, I missed the tech, but I see you got in touch with Khadaji.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: it would clear the socket queue at the socket layer
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: but lasher already said he doesnt want people to be able to do that
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Racconto Tech: DINV Container relative name "pandora" did not have a unique match for a container: skipping organization query request
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Racconto Tech: how do I solve this?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Have you done a refresh after death?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Racconto Tech: that was it, when I did the refresh i wasn't detecting invis
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Racconto Tech: ty
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: First rule of thumb: refresh. :p
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: second rule of thumb: try refresh again?
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boghadair Grimvald Tech: especially after death
T3/r7/2020-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Pretty much, Thridi.
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i made a simple trigger to ignore certain lines - is there any way to make it prevent printing a blank line in its place? 
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You'd be better off using the #gag plugin that Fiendish wrote for MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I think it loads automatically, too.
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: huh... i tried #gag and it didn't work
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can try it out with #gag to see if that brings anything up.
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Ah, then you might need to install the plugin.
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: thanks - will try it out after IF
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: try #gag help - should give you some info. it did load automatically for me, maybe you have an older version?
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's aard_text_substitution in the plugin file. As for your question, the only thing I can think of is to turn it into a regex and add \n to indicate a new line (and make it multi-line) so it gags two lines, and produces only one.
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: possible i have an old version - will look into that too
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: checkversion will tell you.
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: test
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: any react people around? happy to pay 4 tp for  the solution to a problem I'm dealing with.
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: Me
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: is there a dinv query command to look for items that do NOT have a certain flag?
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: ~flag <your-flag>
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: dinv search ~flag solidified for example
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: is there a dinv query to show items in the DB that aren't used in any sets?
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: I use the basic "dinv set wear warrior <level + tier bonus>" setup
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can use the dinv usage command, but it shows both used and unused.
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: according to "dinv usage warrior", only like 10 items are used in total... do I need to add a query argument?
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: (I need to clean out unused items)
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedi Kandorr Tech: I'm also wondering this as well (also cleaning out unused items)
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: might be a good idea to add some more argument handlers to dinv... 'dinv help <command>' -- basic info and maybe a handful of common queries/usages?
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: or im an idiot and it already does that
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: "dinv usage warrior minlevel 1"... 
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: all the number are off
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaury Tech: my keyboard is locked and makes a clicking sound for 99% of keystrokes....
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: sticky keys?
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaury Tech: how do i turn that off
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: apparently there's an icon that looks like some white keyboard keys down by your clock if on windows if you have sticky keys on, so you can just click that.
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I think you can turn it off again by hitting shift key 5 times.
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Same way you turn it on.
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: how do i get blowtorch to recognize {} as brackets and not min,max in regex?
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: don't think you can.
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I googled for how to turn it off and every article said you can't reverse the same way
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: can put a period or something in front to get it to ignore the function?
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Interesting, Eroe, because I just did it, and it reversed it.
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: weird. okay that's good to know.
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Eroe.
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I was just going off the articles
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Articles are wrong. I should shame those articles. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Though it could be dependent upon the operating system. I have Windows LTSC.
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaury Tech: i just turned off filter keys, i dunno if thats the same as sticky keys but thank you
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Windows 10 LTSC, that is.
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaury Tech: it works now :) thanks eroe and crowley
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: As to the blowtorch question, no idea. :(
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Gaury.
T3/r7/2020-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah though there was a way to get blowtorch to recognize a symbol as literal in a regex expression 
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: At the start of 2020 Nvidia drivers added a new feature, you can toggle and cap all games via Nvidia control panel. Njce
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Like limit fps to 60.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: you should get me a 2080ti so i can test it
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: no
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer goes ooOOooOOoo at Useful Hadar.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: I wish lol, 1 for you and 2 for e in SLI :P
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: the cryptominers bought them all out :P
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: SLI is dead /shrug
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: let him waste his money
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Meh, what a misuse of gpus, they need to render games not mine.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: I am contemplating to underclock my GPU to reduce heat and less stress on card increasing life span :), I like to take good care of all my PC.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: while im over here struggling to run minecraft :P
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer grins.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: my 1070ti does well in Overwatch and Valorant
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: someone tell him about TTT curves
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: if you keep it under 80c you're looking at 8 to 12 years of life.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: reducing temp by good cooling is sufficient
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel noddles in total agreement at Veritheia.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: My card will never go pass 65. But I hope introducing some Case fans, it will go into 50ties.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: reducing temperature is not going to increase life by any appreciable degree because they're already going to be very long
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: yeah veritheia. Gpus are meant to run pretty hot compared to cpus
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: its why they have their own fans
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Noegel is my fan.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer sniggers quietly to himself, reflecting over an amusing thought.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I'm ice cold
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer :D
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I'm looking to buy/build a completely fanless system, raw computing power be damned! so I really don't resonate to the GPU issues
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: it's important that those components do not EXCEED or do not spend very long at high temperatures (as these processes are both time and temperature dependent) but below that, there's not much happening
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: AMD still run very hot? I remember back in 2002 it was very hot.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: but he's got me on ignore so hopefully he won't see this advice and just underclock the shit out of his computer
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torched Welding Tech: language!
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: pardon*
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: they all run pretty hot. They are designed to
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Like CPU melted in some cases.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: My old laptop was AMD and ran so hot you could fry an egg on it when it was going full blast.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Ended up selling the whole thing and getting another laptop.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torched Welding Tech: if youre melting your CPU then thats on you lol
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: just don't underclock your stuff. Should have just bought a slower card
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: o_0
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Yeah if you're melting your CPU, you are doing something wrong
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: saw someone submerge their entire computer in oil once. that was amazing
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: What happened?!
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: nothing - it was isolation
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: good cooling
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: big mess to clean up
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: isolating oil*
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: yeah, good idea on paper, bad idea in practice!
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bouncer Anaristos Tech: overclocking is expected these days and shouldn't impact the integrity of fhe hardware.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: I will have 2 fans blowing in, and 1 exhaust fan in Atx case, the GPU have 2 big fans, nice heatsink and copperpipes, So after I cap all games to 60 fps, I guess all this mambo jumbo will keep everything nice and chilled inside, even gaming at 1080 Ultra :) Wheeeee!
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: yeah Anaristos
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torched Welding Tech: what monitor are you using
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: 24 inch wide 1080P screen.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: someone tell him about 144hz monitors
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Though I will never over clock, the card already come with a factory OC, I don't see any need to OC more via MSI afterburner tool.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bouncer Anaristos Tech: fhe point
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Allison, it was a neighbors AMD that melted its cpu, he like to play around in bios, I guess he OC the cpu.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bouncer Anaristos Tech: OC will occur on its own
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torched Welding Tech: did your neighbor invest into bitconnect while he was at it too
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: I'd guess overvoltage if it was caused by tweaking the bios
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: The GPU got a boost clock, so it over clock itself.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Don't think Bitcoin was a thing back in 2002.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Where can I find a updated consider window plugin!
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Let's see, you ask this question regularly, and no one answers. Perhaps there is no answer for you. Too bad, so sad.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: heh
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Perhaps you can try using DuckDuckGo (to keep your privacy) and searcing for consider windows for MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: searching, too. Don't know what searcing is.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: starky uses that plugin and said i trigger scrolled him because there was "no way" i could hit him in my room, but he was sitting in the same room as me spamming that con window thing, making it very obvious he was in the same room .LOL dont download it huko its just spammy
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I agree. Consider plugins are spammy as hell, and quite annoying to boot.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: What is trigger scroll?
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: like using a trigger to scroll someone
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Meaning that Khadaji supposedly used a trigger to recite a scroll.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: i.e. 'Alison walks into the room.' --> 'recite curse alison' based off a trigger. Illegal, by the way.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: yeah but somehow the first time he came in it didnt happen and then magically the second time he came into the SAME room, waiting for a GQ mob like i was, it was beyond logic to assume i knew he was coming back to kill it, so supposedly i triggered it.. heh
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I sort of think consider loses a lot of its value when you get to a decently high tier anyway. 
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: You homies aint using it right
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: People use consider windows to grab a list of the mobs in the room. There's one out there where it would try to guess the keywords and you'd hit a single key to kill mobs in the room one-by-one.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: yep thats the one i use, but it likes crashing
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: No, Huko, it's annoying, whether it's used "right" or not.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: not my problem
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: its incredibly spammy and probably the number one way people get banned for botting
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: for thieves, you can literally ust type 1 bs every mob for the most part
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, it kind of is. It makes you the kind of jackass no one likes, but then again, you do that to yourself already, so... maybe it really isn't your problem.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KFBR392 Limunious Tech: wow! u have allies that live that life crow!
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Limunious: I'm well aware. :)
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Thankfully, I'm able to gag "considers his/her chances" so I don't get to see the constant annoying spam every time someone walks into a room.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: You know what also makes people dislike you? Adding that picture to your github
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Awww, how cute. Huko wants to comment on my picture!
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I am just speaking for the community
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And somehow thinks it affects my feelings!
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I'm sure you are!
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Tell you what, Huko, just for you, I'll upload this image. Tell me if you like it: https://i.imgur.com/eyYxvGg.png
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: much more manageable than your picture
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I mean, if that's all the insults you have, your game is weak.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: when ya think kharpern is gonna tell us to stop
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Why do you need an Imm to tell you to stop? Are you that incapable of being a decent human being?
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: thanks that actually is the best held i got, decent equipment, ty i accept your apology, we're friends now
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Awww, how cute! Huko thinks we're friends. Oh, so adorable!
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranger Ilbrost Tech: the winds plugin from endymion has a bug in the pedestal/cmd section. the sitter reports sides which sets cmd, however this is done as a group emote, the trigger looks for a standard group tell. the lack of ' ' causes it not to match
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It triggers off what is actually said in the room, which is how it gets the words for the next round.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Or rather, the actions that happen in the room.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The group name changing shouldn't really have any effect on the plugin
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranger Ilbrost Tech: the set_cmd trigger, the match is wrong
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranger Ilbrost Tech: in the definition at the bottom, it sets "chan = gtell :", which is emote.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: To be honest, I haven't looked at it myself much. Used my own for the longest time (I believe I made the very first one, just never released it).
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranger Ilbrost Tech: in the match for the set_cmd trigger, it looks for a standard group tell
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Hmm, and Cynik hasn't been on in 4 months.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranger Ilbrost Tech: so the lack of single quotes around the group message causes it to not match
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So why don't you fork it, fix it, and post it?
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranger Ilbrost Tech: i removed the single quotes on my last run and it matched, but this morning when i reopened mush i got an error on that line
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranger Ilbrost Tech: probably something in the regex
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranger Ilbrost Tech: match="^(\(Group\) .+|\(Spouse\) ?\>\> Winds of Fate \>\> \[\[\s+(?<cmd>\w.+\w)\s+\]\]?$"
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yuck.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But you're missing parentheses.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: ^(\(Group\) .+|\(Spouse\):) '?\>\> Winds of Fate \>\> \[\[\s+(?<cmd>\w.+\w)\s+\]\]'?$" --> That's the original.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranger Ilbrost Tech: right, i just removed the '
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You have an 'or' separator for Group or Spouse, but they need to be wrapped in paretheses.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Not according to what you just showed me.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranger Ilbrost Tech: aha
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You removed the :) too.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranger Ilbrost Tech: emotes also don't use :
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: They don't, but you still need the ) from it.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Also, you can just keep the :) and do :?)
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranger Ilbrost Tech: i was doing it at like 1am
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Same with the single quotes.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranger Ilbrost Tech: so per the original: match="^(\(Group\) .+|\(Spouse\):) '?\>\> Winds of Fate \>\> \[\[\s+(?<cmd>\w.+\w)\s+\]\]'?$".
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Actually, it wasn't even the single quotes, as those were already 'if they're here, count them, otherwise don't.'
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranger Ilbrost Tech: it has '?, which is ok. it's lacking :?
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So just change it to: ^(\(Group\) .+|\(Spouse\):?) '?\>\> Winds of Fate \>\> \[\[\s+(?<cmd>\w.+\w)\s+\]\]'?$"
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranger Ilbrost Tech: yupyup
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranger Ilbrost Tech: thank you.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Happy to help!
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranger Ilbrost Tech: highly unfortunate for anyone who want to use the plugin in the future. pedestal/cmd is the only reason i got/use it
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Like I said, fork it, fix it, post it. :)
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranger Ilbrost Tech: nods, i'll do a couple runs to confirm first.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I love that he kept my name in one of the functions for credit purposes. ;)
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Never realized it until I opened up the github for it.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranger Ilbrost enthusiastically high-fives Mr. Crowley!
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But now it's time for me to go shopping for a friend who refuses to take her kids out right now and whose boyfriend apparently doesn't like to do shopping for her. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranger Ilbrost Tech: don't they have a service for that?
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley can be a jackass, but he's a jackass of high class. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: same
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: We do have grocery pickup, but my friend is a hypochondriac, too, so she's afraid that even by going out, she'll contract it.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: nice "mischan" to try and look like you have a female friend
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Huko, you're not even low class. You're more like low trash, but whatever you want to believe. You dream big, and maybe one day, you'll achieve!
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: okay okay not here
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley pats Huko on his head.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Huko yells WOW!
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Hell, my roommate is Tanaya, so... you make of that what you want, Huko.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But I'll make sure to tell her you don't think she's female. ;)
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whoadude Tech: more drama pls
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But yes, anyway, I'll be back in a couple hours to answer more questions and help others who are not insufferable! Gotta go tend to my apparent fake female friends! Oh no, my pride is hurt! ;)
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaury Tech: why is my mush broken? :P
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaury Tech: there is like mad lag and connection issues with it
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: did you try shutting down your computer and restarting a fresh session?
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: i was confused that crowley didn't reply as well. i thought he owned this channel?
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers with Guinness about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Fiendish owns this channel! :(
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: is there a way to force dinv to refresh on a specific item? I zero-weighted a weapon but when I do a dinv search for weapons that have minweight 1, it still shows up there.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: dinv forget id <object id> and then refresh.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: with lua how would you do: if ~function() then end
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: like n = function(), if n == "" then return end ?
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: i wonder if this may be easier to answer with more context?
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i got it :P thanks
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i just added not before the function
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Typically how you would do it.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i know my mind is a little pft right now, been staring at my graphical game too long :P
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I feel you. I've been staring at 26 pages of "Introduction to Social Problems" while sitting at the ER.
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caressa Tech: people need to replant the planet or die...theres the problem, so busy socializing they have no senses
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: my mind was instantly like ~ is not, put that in front of the function, then when i asked because i got an error my brain was like, dummy just use the word not
T3/r7/2020-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley smirks at Caressa's saying.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: anyone know how to fix a broken speedwalk in mobber?
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone written custom JSON logs for nginx < 1.11 before?
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Linus Torvalds switched his main machine to AMD 3970x
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Say I have 24 inch LCD or LED tv, that is 1080p 60hz, will it look much different then a 24 inch PC monitor side by side regarding visual quality? I am going to play games primarily at 1080P ultra settings and am abit iffy about buying this TV.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Hmm, I guess I need to buy a monitor just to be safe.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: Order to ship or buy in person..that's the question
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: They say 24 inch is the sweetspot for 1080p gaming.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Dell got some high-end products, but also entry lvl stuff. Is Dell monitors good?
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: anyone looking at the gpd win max?
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garrot Tech: How can I make an alias for mapper goto?
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: make an alias for the command and set it to send to: execute
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Make the alias send to "execute" instead of world
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garrot Tech: Thanks :)
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: Execute("mapper goto %1") ,,, sendto script
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: i do wish mapper would have built-in bookmarks, though
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilfar Tech: it does via notes
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Bookmarks?
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: you can't goto notes :P
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Aaah, yeah
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Underdaaaaaaaaark
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: You kinda can. mapper notes here, then click on the note you want to run to.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I use bast notes for my notes plugin... maybe should have used mapper notes instead
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Or mapper next (note #>
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: i want them accessible everywhere via command line :P
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia rapidly nods twice at Veritheia, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I always feel sad when I have to use the mouse, yeah
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: i can make variables or aliases or whatever for room numbers and it's fine but still kind of a pain
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilfar Tech: it should be quite easy to write a plugin that searches for note and goes to first match, wonder if there is something like that already available
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Annellin Tech: um, what was the command to turn on the soundpach? accidentally disabled it
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Annellin: spmute.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Annellin Tech: thanks a lot
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia goes to Annellin: "No Problem!"
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So frustrating. I thought it might be a hard drive issue, so got an SSD for my Plex server laptop. It sporadically shuts down and the event viewer gives no indication. Don't think it's a fan issue, as it's running smoothly, so now I gotta figure out what hardware is causing the problem. :\
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: ive had no problems with plex media server
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: over-heating?
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: You update the server when able to?
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Galoth: I don't think it's overheating. It /could/ be, but I don't know. Here's the thing, too. It doesn't fully shut off. I have to hold the power button down for about 10 seconds before it actually shuts off.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at The God Thridi.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I know it's not the Plex Media Server itself. It's my laptop that's the problem, but it's what I use to run Plex.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: ah, I used an external drive bay on my desktop for the media
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: so its still on  but the plex program shuts off?
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: i think plex is fine, it's the PC/OS causing the problem
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That's precisely what I said, Thridi. :)
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: I was answering Galoth :)
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's the laptop, nothing to do with Plex itself. I only mentioned Plex because I'm frustrated that I cannot keep a 100% uptime with it.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at The God Thridi.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: the dual drive bay only cost me 30$
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I don't use it for anything other than Plex itself. Just irritating that I cannot find out what is wrong with it.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i read that as $30 drive by
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Ooo, anyone offering? I've got a few streets in mind...
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: it holds 2 1TB SSD's
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Not bad, Thridi.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: does it only go down when you are actively accessing it or random times?
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: 510M/s write, 550M/s read
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's always at random times. I don't even know when it'll go down. I've had it run for a week straight, no problems, then just shut off. I've had it run for 3 hours, then just die.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: I have over 700 movies, 50+ complete tv series
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: All with heavy use, too.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Weak. I have over 1500 movies now, and though not all complete series, I have about 50+ TV shows, too.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: turn on verbose OS logging
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I /think/ it already is on, but I'll have to check.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: then check the event logs
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The event logs have never told me anything other than 'unexpected shutdown'.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: check the mesages right before that one
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Yeah, that just sounds hardware.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: usually there will be a memory/cpu/fan error
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: i'm betting on ram
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Let me check it now, then.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, this is weird. This time, it doesn't even show an error for the shut down. These were the last two messages before the shutdown: Warning: Name resolution for the name www.speedtest.net timed out after none of the configured DNS servers responded. //// Error: The server could not bind to the transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{6577B51E-8038-4E5C-84B4-5E08762EC99A} because another computer on the network has the same name.  The server could not start.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Then some time after that, it shut down until I restarted it at 6:12. A gap of 5 hours.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: Give the laptop a dedicated IP on the network
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It has its own dedicated IP address.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: obviously not, or you wouldnt see that second error
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: In fact, every device has their own dedicated IP address that's connected to the network.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I promise you it has its own IP address.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So I don't know why that second error. In fact, I have a book mark on my personal laptop so I can see what's going on through the IP address on the Plex laptop. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: and was there activity before, during, and after that second error popped?
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: No activity after, and no activity for 2 hours prior.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: what about non-plex activity in that time period?
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: or was everything off during?
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Pretty sure there was someone watching a movie or otherwise on Plex. But this is literally what it shows: https://i.imgur.com/y71DkkM.png
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But ugh, now I gotta go make a store run for a friend because her kids are in the tub and she has a Walmart grocery pickup.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Back in about an hour, yay me.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oo, back in an hour like I thought. Thought it'd take longer. Heh.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: you thought both to be back in an hour, and that it would take longer? i approve of your superposition of contradictory thoughts :p
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Mannec.
T3/r7/2020-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: is there a non-tags based method of getting mob data?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone know the trick for SnD going to Lem-d instead of prosper for those cp's? i manually do xrt lem-d, otherwise, SnD/mapper takes me to prosper
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Yeah, don't bot and do it manually.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Autonomous Anymouse gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaury Tech: HI ANYMOUSE
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Autonomous Anymouse Tech: dont bot shame me
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Autonomous Anymouse Tech: hi gary
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaury Tech: why do you keep calling me gary?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Autonomous Anymouse Tech: gary, we went over this
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaury Tech: did you forget the oxford U?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: how do I unhighlight words on Mush?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: I've used the highlight word function, now I want to undo it
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: any idea why my connection to aard will seemingly drop at random times?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: my internet works fine, but i just stop receiving data from aard (and client doesn't say i'm disconnected)
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: haven't cleaned out your internet tubes?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: poor internet most likely
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: only to aard? use traceroute or mtr
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Same thing here.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: Mine does it randonly to
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: i think theres a global internet issue right now because everyone has been having issues
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: seems like some problem about not keeping alive
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh hmm
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: fixed IP or DHCP?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i never have a problem while actively playing though, just seems to happen while idle
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: dhcp i believe
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: my connection to ISP didn't drop
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: that "actively  playing" seems that your problems are related with your PC rather
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: i get that ocassional drop as well...
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: is it possible Win 10 with some power saving ? or VM ?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, so i'm wondering what could be cause
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: win 10, not going into power saving.. i'm iaw
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: probably a singaporean ISP thing
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: i get that often and i blame M1
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: is it possible that you have too many connections open? some malware detects when you are idle and then increases its activity
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what do you mean?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if you are behind router - then it may drop connections like "xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx exceeds 1000 connections, dropping packets"
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: would i  be able to see that in logs or something?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: it should be visible in logs
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: some routers require you to turn on logging and increase verbosity
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: could run wireshark and filter to just aard traffic
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if packets are dropped on router, wireshark won't detect it
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm connected to a bridge btw
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so main router -> bridge -> wireless
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: yeah but you'll see a reset or a timeout on a socket
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: however with increased verbosity of logs - you may need some syslog app to store logs
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: ah, wifi - if possible I would first switch to wire, maybe lack of wire causes problems
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: eh, going to be difficult to run a wire through the house lol
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: i used a wired connection but my connection to aardwolf drops stil
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: speaking of which, now that i'm looking at my router admin, my PC seems to disappear from the client list randomly
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: although i'm connected throughout
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: but Redryn's problem seems to be related with activity, when he's active there are no problems, when idles then get silent packet drops
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if those problems started recently and router /bridge / AP have high uptime - restart them
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: been that way for a long time
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: you could also "ping -t <your router ip>" , "ping -t <your bridge>", "ping -t <your AP>"
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what for?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: either it will fix your aard session (because of ping activity) or you will be able to detect packet drops when your aard session starts silently dropping packets
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ok, will try and see how it goes, thanks
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: anyone knows anything about a theme tracker plugin by arcidayne?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: theme tracker?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: that's what it says on my plugin lol. it is a quest tracker.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: someone was asking about it but i cant remember why i downloaded it
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Annellin Tech: so how does the mapper work?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: it records data and uses the data
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: use mapper help
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: what part do you need help with
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: but that's a pretty broad question that's difficult to answer
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Annellin Tech: Ah good, I was typing only mapper and it wasn't working, Thanks. mapper help was what i needed 
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Annellin Tech: all the rooms from the game are on the list? or i have to visit them first for them to be added? because i was trying to find the room safety, on Kingsholm but it didn't find it
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: you have to visit them first
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Annellin Tech: thanks a lot
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: So I am 75% sure I will be getting a 24 inch LED/LCD TV with 1080P 60hz, and 25% maybe 24 inch 1080p 60hz PC monitor, my question is will the tv look good to play on?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, a TV is just a monitor with a built-in tuner
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Tnx.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Expensive HDMI cables are a scam right?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Lol, knew it, tnx.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Buy them gold plated Monster cables!
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: $200
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: It'll make your bits faster!
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: o_0, I am getting copper ones.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Gotta get some gold teeth too.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Do you get hdmi cable with a new HDMI 1080P monitor?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: varies, but often no.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer goes, "OK".
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: am want faster bits.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Gotta check the box/specifications, but my experience is 'not usually'. Sometimes they're nice and include a VGA cable.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I tried exciting them but that didn't work.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eroe colors slightly, it appears Robbo is diddling with his bits again.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: ehh, I think that's been changing, Robbo. Newer monitors should probably come with HDMI cable
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I bought a monitor for like $50 a few years ago and it wasn't so shitty that it didn't come with a cable :p
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: I got a 27' 1440 a couple weeks ago and it came with... a VGA cable.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Robbo sobs in misery.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: short distances, almost any HDMI cable is fine
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: buy a better monitor :D :D
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: long distances, you'll need to be more picky
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: and if 18Gbps is required, then you need to be evern pickier
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: I've had issues trying to do 4k 60hz over not-so-well-made HDMI cables.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: there is a certification for 18Gbps
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: amazon, monoprice, etc... with the certification should be fine
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: These supposedly were spec'ed for such, but they were very low cost.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Not sure if they really were certified or just claimed to be. Bought a better one and that resolved the issues.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: nods
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: if you want to pay for "quality" but not be crazy high, then http://www.bluejeanscable.com/
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: So many shady labels on those things, they're as bad as 5G EVOLUTION
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: otherwise, i suggest amazon basics or monoprice "premium"
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: (Thankfully AT&T is getting slapped for that one)
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Robbo nods at [Battle] Scars.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: I'll just call our cable supplier for some "samples"
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: I use a 30 inch wide screen an usb-c cable to surface book 2
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: do you happen to know if the usb cable spec supports 50ft runs for projectors?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: 32 inch screen is to big for gaming when sitting like 3 feet away rignt? Max like 27 inch?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: I do not mines like 2 feet
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Maybe I get 27 inch, 32 would be to big i guess.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: But a 32 looks so sexy lol.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: I am still old skool, I love my keyboards/mouse/gamepad to be wired. I have noticed some glitches with wireless before.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whoadude Tech: yeah the glitch when the battery dies 
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Any glitches are usually the result of some sort of interference, such as a cell phone between the device and the receiver or computer.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: ya I cant stand not to have a wireless mouse
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: get a cord bungee if that's your problem
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: after we where all inslaved to wire mouse for so many years
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whoadude Tech: whos got a mouse with a ball
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: i just put a new yolk in mine
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Remember having to use overly hard boiled eggs to replace the ball?! :p
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whoadude Tech: lol
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Damn it, Veritheia.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Veritheia smirks.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whoadude Tech: i too have facebook
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I didn't see it on FB. Saw it elsewhere.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So SUCK IT! :p
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whoadude Tech: come on you can say the R word
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Wasn't Reddit. Pretty sure it was my Google News feed.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whoadude Tech: oh lol
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Is 8ms response time Monitors the slowest acceptable for gaming?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: I don't think you notice the difference between 8ms and 2 or 1 except in the most timing sensitive games
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Cool! tnx :)
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: Regardless a 144hz panel is one of the best gaming buys I've ever made so I do recommend it if you can afford it
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: But as for the response time... I think the only game I've played where I was like "oh that dodge was a few milliseconds off" was Bayonetta
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: I need to buy a 240hz 4k ultrawide to improve my performance in text based games
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: Is anyone familar with MUDRammer?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Nope people here only bot with mushclient.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Please ignore the ignorant DjVoltron. I don't think very many people use MUDRammer, though.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Autonomous Anymouse Tech: i use telnet
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: i like a good mudrammer
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: I use mudrammer a tiny bit
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Autonomous Anymouse Tech: from my watch
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I use smoke signals. you aint lived until you used smoke signals
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: kids these days have bot making so easy.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: (I actually do use mudrammer a tiny bit. not often, but I do have it :p)
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: MUDRammer is the only VO client for the iPhone.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Understandable, but phone players are a small group, and I think iPhone players are even smaller.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: .. i wonder. instead asking for "custom" channels, someone could make plugin that you specify the multiple player names that will receive your tells. 
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: that would be incredibly spammy.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: oh. you have a convo here
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: what is the most popular program for Aardwolf
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: mushclient
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: type clients
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: clients will definitely tell you Mushclient-aard is the popular option.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: I'm playing on phone right now
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Used to be zMUD/CMUD, though.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: then people got smart with their bots.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I blame susan, it's her fault.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Blowtorch is often the app of choice for Android users.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: I tried phone and I die way too much
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: you also don't get the mapper on phone.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Richard Fuel comforts Grannie Killene.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Personally, I keep MUSHclient up on my personal laptop and remote in with Teamviewer to bot... I mean, play when I am away.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: me brain is me mapper
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: marry jane makes that hard, so I rely on the mapper instead.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: No excuse, I love mj and my brain is also my mapper.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: can't play on pc in the car
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: when you 71 brain needs extra help
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: I need help with triggers.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Sure you can, if it's a laptop. I used to play from my laptop in the car when I was driving taxi.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But you can still remote into a personal computer/laptop at home using apps like Teamviewer.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KnightLord Throxx nods at Killene
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: trying to make a mob is dead trigger for another world. The mob name changes based on area and syntax. the line will come in as, A pixie is dead!R.I.P. so, how do I match trigger =mob name is deadR.I.P.?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: generic answer would be a regular expression for something like ^(A|An|The)/w(is dead/!R/.I/.P/.)$
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: just switch the / to \\
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: err \
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: btw that's regex (regular expression) so make sure that box is checked
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Yes, please gnore my slash directions, I have been dealing with windows<>posix path transofmrations all morning and my brain is mush
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: no regular expressions check box for MUDRammer
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Powdered Milkweed Tech: anyone know why I wouldn't be able to access aardwolf through a wifi where I am?  Do they maybe block certain ips?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: maybe.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: More likely they block certain ports....
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Try other options in help ports.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Powdered Milkweed Tech: thank you I will try that.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Powdered Milkweed Tech: yep that did it.  Thank you
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: they do block IP's, but only when/because players have caused extreme situations from them... could have been someone who had the IP before
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: Can mushclient be reduced to the hidden icons for q sitting at work? Preferably with a single button? :)
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: so single key stroke
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: on windows, you can hit windows key + down arrow to minimize current active window
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: (if maximized you need to hit it twice)
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: or, set a key macro (Game->configuration->macro) and send 'world.DoCommand "MinimiseProgram"'
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Windows is telling my my AMD GPU has a driver thats not compatible with most recent update.  I don't use AMD GPU, wat do
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: that right there? is why i always disable updates.  you should upgrade to xp.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: It says I need to update to install the windows thing, and I need windows thing to play my new game :(
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: and look where that got you.  this is punishment for upgrading your game from minesweeper.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Huko: You can usually go to their website, get the latest driver, install it, and be good.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Or get a driver downloader program (a legit one, noe one that is bloatware) and go from there.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: is it possible you have more than one gpu? perhaps windows has detected an onboard controller you werent interested in using...
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I looked and its all for AMD chipset, but I dont use AMD, I am going to try and find Intel Raid chipset and see if that does anything
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: ugh all the legit ones usually go into bloatware i feel like
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: driverbooster was cool before they got popular from humble bundle and now its so annoying
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Try Driver Talent.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: ty i will report back when i do this, i hate all these diff launchers for games
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: try just removing the amd gpu from your driver list.  of course, you will want to make sure that your real gpu shows up first...
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: hm didnt work, in my device manager it mentions storage device is amd-raid,
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: storage controller
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: what kind of game requires updates to your storage controller? thats wack, yo.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i got no clue whats happening tbh
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: that IS weird
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: getting driver talent to see if it does spechal
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: see, now on linux you would have accidentally overwritten a hard drive by now, and you would know exactly what was happening.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: ooooo driver talent had 1 missing driver and its AMD-Raid :D
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: hm it says not compatible and since i dont got premium i cant get it to auto install :P
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: reeeeeee nothing is fixing
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: need version 1909, im at 1809
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: How to Connect a VGA Laptop to an HDMI TV?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: get a converter
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: vga to hdmi cord
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: you can just get an adapter, you don't need a full cord.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: just a VGA port and HDMi port cable, or i just need a HDMI converter and extra VGA cable?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: please advise
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: you'll want VGA female to HDMI male.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: assuming you have the right cord to fit your new adapter... which with a laptop, you might not.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: do you have a VGA to VGA cable right now?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: you cna buy a converter which will hang and stress your ports, or you get a cord that wont stress it
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: lol the converters that are VGA to HDMI usually have a short cable that prevents it from putting weight on the ports.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: its make any different? with a normal VGA-HDMI cable and a converter?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: Eroe i dont,
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: not really, i didnt like converters
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: how to define male and female
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: if you don't already have a VGA to VGA cable, just buy a VGA to HDMI.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: assuming the converter comes with a vga cord for the laptop, it may still need an extra hdmi cord to the tv ... depends on whats in the package, neh?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: the male goes in the female ;)
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: dont need a converter ? just VGA to HDMI cable?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: this is 2020, sometimes the female goes in the male.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: yeah, you're correct. I thought you already had a cable.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: Eroe i dont, wanna buy it online ,just wanna make sure that
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: https://www.amazon.com/DisplayPort-Adapter-Benfei-Gold-Plated-Compatible/dp/B01GPMRYNM/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=vga+to+hdmi+cable&qid=1590541989&sr=8-3
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i think you want male to male, the port on your pc is female
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: so a Normal VGA-HDMI cable can play out 1080P HD, does my LED TV?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: wait no
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: that cable is a displayport
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I'll just watch huko spew misinformation.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: nice first result on vga to hdmi cable is a displayport to vga
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: https://www.amazon.com/Gold-Plated-Active-Adapter-Converter-Meters/dp/B074GW5D44/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=vga+to+hdmi+cable&qid=1590542032&sr=8-4
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: male to male vga to hdmi
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: that is not a question we can answer. it depends on your tv.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: How old is the TV
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: Eroe i am confuse with it
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: since 2012 - LED TV
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Probably not then
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: your tv is probably 720p
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: Samsung
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: How much did you pay
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: that is so insanely irrelivant...
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: the actual answer is to look up the specifications for that particular tv.  it might say on the info on the back ... or at least give you a model number you can look up.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: i check the model now
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: you need to look at the manual, look online. the make, year, what you paid, length of power cable, phase of the moon all do not matter.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: model- Samsung UA40D5030
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: also if youre hoping for this game, you wont notice the diff between 720p and 1080p more than likely
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: proberly watch some series movie on laptop
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: maybe someone who knows more about this can verify, but I think the fact that you're using VGA makes your resolution fairly limited.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: "In addition, VGA provides a maximum resolution of 640 x 480 with a refresh rate of 60 Hz while a DVI connector can boast a resolution of up to 1920 x 1200"
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: its probably not actual vga.  its probably one of the upgrades to the spec that came out over the last what ... 15-20 years?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: most people see a db-style connector, they think vga, thats it.  
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I was trying to find specs to see what the ports are and having no luck.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: so I guess the tl/dr is the male to male cable you linked could work, but we can't be sure and I don't want to tell you to spend money without knowing for sure. if it is indeed VGA, you're not going to get the resolution you are expecting.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: model- Samsung UA40D5030 MY TV model
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: well, I think, just take a pic upload it to imgur, share the link, viola!!
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: eroe has no clue what hes talking about
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Your TV is 1080p at 60HZ
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eroe boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: buy a VGA male to HDMI male, your VGA will go into laptop and HDMI will go into TV
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: and you should be able to view it at 1080p/60hz
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: nod
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: need gold plate?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: nah, gold is a gimmick.  any old wire will do for the first 3-6 ft.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: gold plate need speed fast?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: gold plate not speed fast?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: no. it doesn't matter
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: the only reason to even consider special cables is if you are trying to do something silly, like run the wire to the other end of the house :p
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: just make sure that you can return the cable if it turns out your TV won't support those resolutions.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: can i play aardwolf on my LED TV? the visual will break?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: sound fun!
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: no, you'll be fine.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: itll probably be a weird resolution
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: hehe might try out
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: everything my its telling me to install to fix this issue is saying amd only cant install
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: huko whats wrong
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i have to update to newest version of windows, but windows is saying i gotta update my amd driver, well i dont use amd
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: do you know what manufacturer and chipset it really does use?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i dont know what that meant
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: the solution to the problem wont run, cause its not an amd system
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: amd drivers are for amd GPU's/processors
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: Are you on win10
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: When I have driver issues on win10 I just delete whatever drivers are causing an issue and reboot
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: Win10 is good about installing defaults
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: how do i find the driver causing the issue
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: well, installing THEIR defaults :)
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: Uh describe the issue to me
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: sounds like you're getting the wrong drivers. if you don't know what chipsets you're using... that would be a good start. but yeah, win10 has great PNP, so install that and work from there if the windows defaults aren't enough.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: go to the hardware panel, see which is being reported as AMD
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: hold on im trying to find the exact message
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-260
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: Yeah I definitely haven't seen this before, you've got a RAID setup?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: im not sure
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: If you had RAID set up you would know if you did
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: and did you download and install the recommended installer?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: You don't do it by accident. So your machine may be falsely detecting this
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: Have you rolled back to a previous windows update?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: are you using win10 insider?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Everything happens automatically usually
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: no
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: on the page you linked, it had a download.. I would download and install that
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: if he's not using AMD though it may not help
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I downloaded all 3, all 3 say can only run on amd system
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: even if you aren't running a RAID, the new drivers will detect that and report it properly
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: The only thing I am seeing is AMD-Raid on my Storage controller, I am not sure what that would be
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: uh. from device manager?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: AMD-RAID Bottom Device 9.2.0.41
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The God Thridi Tech: what device exactly is reporting as AMD-RAID?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: https://borncity.com/win/2019/04/15/windows-10-v1903-has-issues-with-amd-raid-drivers/
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: that's old, but I wonder if it's part of the same issue
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I downloaded a driver thing Crowley recommended and it gave a driver im missing, but when i manually goto install it says youre not amd sorry
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: what driver were you "missing"
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: AMD-Raid controller [storport]
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: okay one sec, lemme try this softpedia site
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: if you don't have a raid controller you don't need the drivers for it.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: did you build that system? did you install a raid controller?
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i dont know what to do with this .cab file
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i built the system and i got no clue
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: everything i see is saying amd-raid on samsung ssds
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: ima just uninstall this driver and watch my pc bluescreen
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: just removing it seemed to fix it, i guess ill figure out what it broke in the time
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: in time*
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I would very much be willing to bet that the whatever it is you randomly ran discovered the wrong device and you didn't actually have a raid controller.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: yeah probably, i got no clue
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: anyone taken the CompTIA A+ and have tips? i'm taking it tomorrow
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: mark the right answers not the wrong ones hth
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: thats useful actually
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: i could have done it wrong
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: If you didn't know that before that, yer screwed either way.
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: its like, just click on their heads in an fps
T3/r7/2020-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: I did it about 14 years ago, it was just so much rote memory. Wonder how much it's changed
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: is all the information (plugins, maps) on my current mush client stored within the folder as default? i am planning to move it to another computer.
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: yeah, you should be able to just copy paste the folder.
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Can you play Aardwolf via Mush in a 7zip folder?
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: IN a 7zip folder?
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: No. But good question!
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: no its multiple files
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer grins mischievously.
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: why would you want to? it would have to uncompress and compress every read/write
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: best not to open that can of worms, Eroe
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Just wanted to hear the lvl of expertise the Tech people exhibits :P
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 {-_-} RetroGamer giggles.
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: and THAT is your question?!?!
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Hey, before you work on my car, I want to make sure you know what you're doing. Can I drive my car without petrol in it?
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: of course. sugar is a great sub
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: You're hired!
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: it's that natural fuel
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eroe beams with pride.
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: OK, here is a tough one, between 8/5/2/1 market search 80 201 response time of monitors, can you see ghosting with 8ms in games?
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Petro Tech: you can make ethanol with the sugar
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Milliseconds*
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: OK, here is a tough one, between 8/5/2/1 milliseconds response time of monitors, can you see ghosting with 8ms in games?
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: mind you your bill also went up from this demonstration but we're not talking about that.
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: is he asking about black to black or grey to grey?
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: also, response time isn't the only thing you'd want to look at - you can easily overvolt the pixel to achieve better response times but you'll overshoot and still have bad image quality
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Veritheia, you smart lol :D
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: I guess 5 millisecond response time is good enough to avoid ghosting, not so sure about 8.
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: is there a way to create a separate window for different channels with the aard mudclient?
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yes - right click the window
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: add window, filters, etc
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: add tab*
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: thanks, how can i take that tab out into a new window?
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: not sure you can
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Who knew, small case fans make more noise than bigger fans.
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: is it intended that when we step in a room that is in a diff area than the prev room we get duplicate room.info broadcast?  room.info then room.area then room.info again
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Anyway to make the mapper to tell you if a cexit is in the current room youre in
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: mapper cexits here, mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Both those will tell you. Though mapper thisroom will tell you exits in the room.
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: While moving around, kinda like how you cn aadd room numbers
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Also, 'exits' will tell you generally unless the custom exit is hidden.
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: okie dokie ty
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: ?
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Mis.
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Anyone got a working link for Windows XP virtual station for Win 7?
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Gonna need it to PLAY old games :P
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Thank god it is free and legal to download.
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: what type of old games?
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: 16 bit games.
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: 16bit as in playing DOS games?
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: For example Commandos 1, like 1999 game.
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: Ah yes. Yeah win95/98 games are the worst compatibility offenders
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: I have a working 486DX2 for DOS games but I need to do some work on a Pentium I have for win98 games
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: can't you use dosbox or scumm?
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: Not for later 90s games that didn't run in DOS mode and don't play nice with modern hardware
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: ah gotcha
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: Like I was trying to play Dungeon Siege and its a nightmare even with a graphics wrapper like DGVoodoo
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Nods, perhaps I should just split partition, and dual boot XP pro and Win 7 Ultimate, I heard the Virtual station is in a window and not fullscreen.
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: you're buying this new computer and you're installing... win 7 on it?
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: Based
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: also FWIW xp may not support the drivers.
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: At least i know MUDs will always run on my machine
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: my 10 year old son built a windows 7 virtual machine...lol, but I don't know how he did it
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Age of Empires 1 had a graphic glitch on Win 7, it looked like 256 colours lol.
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: it's not that bad with VMWare player
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: I saw in Windows 7 Benchmarks, it gets better fps then win 10.
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: I remember Voodoo, I wonder why it went extinct.
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Any 1 remember Nvidia Riva TnT 2 Ultra? It was like same time as Geforce 2 Ti, the TnT was a very nice card, I played Quake 3, Unreal Tournament and CS 1.6 on it.
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: a 32 meg card :P
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: The GeForce FX 5200 128 meg was a huge piece of crap.
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: But Geforce 8600 GT was cool, I got like 85 fps back in 2008 on high settings in GTA 4.
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: I had a FX 5200. It worked well for me because I only played Fallout 2 and Half Life mods
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: Nods. I also loved Half Life mods, so many good ones :)
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: I got like 550 fps in Quake 3 on my GeForce 8600 GT @720p lol.
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: waiting for that 550 hz monitor to be released
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: 550 hz is roughly where haptic feedback needs to be to feel real so maybe some day. .  
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: we can finally feel the touch of another
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i know there use to be a web version of a 3 moons tracker, anyone know if thats still around?
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: ive got a mushclient version
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: which ive also upgraded
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: to work with themes
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i do also, i wanted to see something based not off game ticks, im working on a discord bot version of it to keep track outside of the game
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: woot nod
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: thats me
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: own me
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: i drink S i go
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: she owns me for recent  et for tiger
T3/r7/2020-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slips Tech: too drunk to care
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shame Tech: If I have mudlet, how do I stop it from autoconnecting?
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shame Tech: Linux ubuntu here
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: I use Mudlet on windows, but it doesn't auto connect, what's the specific behavior you're experiencing?
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: an autoconnect on startup?
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shame Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shame Tech: I want to play a different mud, but i'm not settled on any default
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: There are no other muds.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: Hm, I've never used it on Linux, on Windows there's a startup window that displays all available profiles. Each profile has a checkbox that says reconnect and connect on startup
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shame Tech: darn client recorded my password and everything.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: Try clicking Connect and see if that box pops up, then select Aardwolf profile and disable those two boxes
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: If you have them I mean
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shame Tech: ty, lemme look
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laurentz Tech: I don't know how different the client is on Linux
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Synfar Tech: There is also a box on the connect window... uncheck it to disable autoconnect on startup.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Synfar Tech: In mudlet
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shame Tech: ty, i had to unclick the auto-connect box. I play a few muds, but just got rid of windows after 10.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shame Tech: just too much outgoing traffic. I'm not a big bandwidth guy if I don't know what it's doing.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shame Tech: Thank you fellas. Have a great night.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denah Tech: anyone using the Mag for mudlet?  if so do you know why status area stat monitor area dne extra info area do not display anything?
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Good luck, client command shows one person using that client, and I'm guessing that's you.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: I'd try posting to tech board.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denah Tech: what client do people us then the mush one?
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: zmud
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Nods, most people bot with the mush once, cuz that's approved legal botting with player provided scripts and bots.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: type client
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: I like wintin++ but I'm the minority.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: There is a dumb client? lol. That's great.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denah Tech: ok  thanks, just returning and trying to get back into it 
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is Vt100 Dumb.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Probably what it's referring too.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Np Denah welcome back.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denah Tech: i forgot everything, been some what of a struggle get back into it :)
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: cat did something to computer, numpad no longer works! And it's not numlock :( Any ideas?
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: shame the cat
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: have you considered stir fry?
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: yeah, cats hate computers for some reason... mine bit through my mouse cable, speaker cable, phone chargers, even a VR headset...
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: well the mouse cable makes sense. the rest is a bit crazy.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: if it's a desktop computer you could try to open up the keyboard and see if something happened. beyond that, not sure, if numlock isn't the answer
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: try blowing it out, maybe fur?
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: can a cat bite a cord and cause partial keyboard function loss, or would that be all or none?
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KFBR392 Limunious Tech: anyone experience problems with the mapper delete cexits command?  is there something that has to be turned on in order to remove cexits from a room
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: you can right-click on map and delete that way
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KFBR392 Limunious Tech: ok lemme try that
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: is there a GMCP code for hardcore flag?
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: No.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: can you make one for us
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: that would be pretty hardcore.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eroe winks suggestively.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: anyone know why some of mmy portals (pet collar specifically) gets me lost in the pet store when I use xrt? I just bounce off walls then my run stops and I don't make it where I'm heading.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: did you try resetting the starting room?
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: resetting it to what? I didn't set one to start with.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: hold the collar, enter, xset mark, then try again
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DJ Pon3 Starky Tech: sounds like you have a bad cexit involved
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: or, yeah, you could have the wrong destination set
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DJ Pon3 Starky Tech: try to figure out what room causes you go to off the rails and type mapper cexits in that room
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DJ Pon3 Starky Tech: probably a room with a door
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: oh. yeah, xset mark worked. not sure why it was off to begin with. thanks. final question, do I need to do something special to get dinv to recognise my dinv wear slot?
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: uh. portal slot rather. multiple glasses of wine plus typing don't go well together, clearly
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DJ Pon3 Starky Tech: dinv should detect it already, it did for mine
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: check that you didn't turn it off in your priority
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It should automatically detect it, for sure.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You might try 'dinv reload' if it's not detecting it.
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: oddly the second dinv reload seemed to do it, I edited and aborted priority although that shouldn't have mattered. thanks!
T3/r7/2020-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WhatsApp KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone a 3d printer guru? looking for decent glow in the dark green filament (dont care what material) that doesnt notoriously clog the printer because it warms up too fast
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I've put a bunch of triggers in a group. How do I enable/disable them all at once?
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: mushclient?
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: EnableTriggerGroup
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Yeah.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: EnableTriggerGroup("name", true/false)
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Where do I type that in?
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: EnableTriggerGroup("nameofgroup",true/1 or false/0)  
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Directly into the command line?
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: send to script or if in the command line, use \\\ first
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i usually make an alias
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: whatever you want to disable or enable the group
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: personally i like to use 0 and 1 because you can pass those easily through an alias
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Thanks all, it works.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: That helps a lot :) 
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: Is there a way to use the mapper to move in a direction? E.g. If I hit 4 on my numbpad instead of moving "west" if there is a door in my map...moving "open door w and then west"
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, you could, but it'd require quite a bit of set up.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: Hmm. I mean I assume I'd need to query the map to find out the room "west" and then walkto it or something?
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: worry that would be slower though.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: you'll use the gmcp exits, query the mapper for the cexits in your room, and if there is one between the two use it, otherwise just move in the direction.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Nah, the easiest way to do it would be to change 'n|w|e|u|d|s' into an alias, and then do 'mapper goto gmcp("room.info.exits.<dir>") based on whatever you're using.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: that will fail if you're moving into an unmapped room
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But that will get messy in cases where the exit is -1, so you'd have to change it to say 'if it's -1, then move normally'
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Eroe.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Actually, no, it won't fail.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The stub exits allows you to go a room that hasn't been mapped yet.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: oh. I didn't know that.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: that's helpful
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Neither did I until I just tried it.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So alias n|s|w|e|u|d to pull the gmcp data of the room and mapper goto/walkto that room.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: However, then the problem becomes if you spam w, w, w, w, w, it'll only capture the first room id, and you'd wind up just one west instead of 5 west.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Essentially, you would have to slow your movement a tad bit.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: is there a way to copy the speedwalk to destinations from mapper?
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knitted by Kharpern Tech: mapper where roomnumber
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: mapper find to find the room number of the room. Or mapper thisroom if you're standing in it :P
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yeah, you'll want 'mapper where <roomnumber>' as Kharpern said if you want the speedwalk.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: Fiendish. Mush locks the screen very often
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: i suspect 1. when something is selceted. 2.a link appeared
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: is it customizable?
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: need more details
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: ok. i try to gater a few. 
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: working on fixing this hilarious bug kalsch reported to me that should definitely have happened to more people before now
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: yep. one lock happens when something is selected.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: lock.. i mean, the screen gets split to two. upper part is locked, lower is fine. 
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: the selecting a line triggering makes sense
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Richard Fuel Tech: but there is more.. feels random. 
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: oh you're talking about the splitscreen scrollback?
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I made a plugin that splits the screen scrolling up so that you can always see new incoming text
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: if you select something and then new text comes in, the output doesn't scroll to the end (because you have something selected and mushclient wants to keep that on screen for you). effectively that means you're scrolling up to stay in place
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the splitscreen scrollback plugin lets you see what you're selecting and also the new text at the same time instead of only one or the other
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you can grab the horizontal bar and move it up or down if you want more room on either side of the split
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I had a hell of a time implementing that plugin and am quite proud of it
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: very useful plugin. thanks Fiendish
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the ability to select text in the lower part and have the selection pass through required new features in mushclient
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: nothings worse than moving your mouse up to click on somethin and it runs away from you lol
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: Is it possible to change the color of the tabs in the comm log for when it's unread?
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: those colors come from your current theme. you can make a custom theme with whatever modifications you want
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: information about color themes is here https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Miniwindow-Color-Themes
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I want to say that that's probably the CLICKABLE_HOT color
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: as a side note...your splitscreen plugin has a runtime error when changing the theme while split
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: not for me
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: type `checkversion` please
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: r2068
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: did the error have a message
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ?
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: https://pastebin.com/9M1ud416
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: of course
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ooh neato
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: Aren't unexpected bugs the best? :)
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: oh interesting. it's happening every time now
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'm going to need you to send me a copy of your split screen plugin
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: not just when scrolling
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: because mine says `WindowAddHotspot(win, 'bar', 0, 0, 0, 0, ...` and 0 is most definitely a number
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: aha. nevermind. I think my error. My mistake
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: Typoed something when I was looking at the middle click item we talked about and must have saved.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: huzzah
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: pebcak
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: as a side note...way too much fun changing themes.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the included themes all please me
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I want to make a way for people to send me themes that I want to help them share but not necessarily add to the default list
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: background transparency would be rad
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient technically can do that
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I just think it's a terrible idea
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: i mean like 50% shaded ... i think it would look cool and makes the screen feel less crowded
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so the color keying doesn't work for me in Wine, but \\\Transparency(-1, 200) does
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: Lua, right? wow that totally works
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: I even have a youtube video playing in background and I can see over...thanks Fiendish I didn't know this was possible
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: https://www.mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?function=Transparency
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: r2070 out with bug fix for comm log state trashing. thanks to kalsch for the report.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: is this going to break everything else in the process? Also, what was the bug so I can decide to risk it or not? Finally, thanks for fixing bug.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: plugin was writing temporary copy of current log history to the state file so that it could bring it back when managing the miniwindow color theme. but state files have a maximum file size limit, so if you have enough tabs with enough lines in them it would break loading the plugin and mushclient would delete your state file in response
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: aha, I wonder if I've run into this bug on occasion without realizing it. I know something was randomly giving me errors... Thanks very much
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: kalsch is the best
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Autonomous Anymouse Tech: he is a qt pie
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: anyone who reports a bug to me with enough information for me to fix the problem is the best
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yeah, I went through everything, compared settings, and found nothing that was different. It's weird, though, because I have 8 tabs and have never had that problem, yet he had it with 4 tabs?
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: maybe if Loqui were as good friends as Baalers and actually talked to each other :D
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Hah, the changelog on the github doesn't show the <area> because Github wants &lt;area&gt; instead. :P
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Ha, if only you knew, Veritheia! *shifty*
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: good catch crowley. looks like I actually need to go and change a bunch of those 
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at IAC DO Fiendish.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I experienced it myself updating readmes.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I kinda want to change it in the html generator and not in the readme doc itself
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: because otherwise the text then has a bunch of bs &gt; &lt; all over
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That always irritated me.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Also, thanks for adding in my feature, and tidying it up! :P
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hopefully I can make this change without breaking the build, lol
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hey np. I appreciate every obviously reasonable submission
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: even if I then rewrite some of it
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I just did a quick fix of it, figured you'd rewrite it into a tidier setting.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It was more for getting the concept out there and not trying to figure out what I can change and not break in the plugin itself.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: oh, nice, this change is in the html itself. that means I don't have to worry about screwing up any powershell
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The potential downside to the feature is if someone tries to use mapper portal delete #1 instead of #67. *shifty*
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: think I should denumber them?
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Maybe? Unless you can find a way to show their actual index number.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yeah. probably even better
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: if it does what I think it does, yeah, probably actual index numbers or nothing
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: otherwise someone IS going to do exactly what crowley said.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And be very unhappy. :p
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But yeah, it shows 1/2/3 etc. for the mapper portals <here/area> feature.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Rather than 45, 52, 67, or whatever.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: webpage should be fixe
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: working on renumbering now
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Whee! :p
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: what is char state 8?
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: combat I think
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes, 8 is combat, 3 is out of combat.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: ty
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can see all the states, I believe, in the GMCP protocol page on the Aard Wiki, too.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: in theory they should be the same as the states in help telopts
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i would think that there would be many out of combat states, and possibly many in-combat states as well...
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Nah, there's states for standing (out of combat), resting, sitting, sleeping, in combat, etc.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Something like that.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: mmm.  like that, yes.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: In fact, help telopts will tell you.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 3's generally the only one you need to care about, as it's "ready to accept commands"
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can ignore the 100 in teleopts, and use the 1-9, 11 for character states.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ok r2017 with the renumbering
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: 2071
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: math is hard.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I don't like shopping though
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: chopping?
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Sweet! glad the indexed numbers show correctly now.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: hi is where any reason why my screen goes blank until i enter a command
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: god hates you
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: does that mean no one hates me?
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whoadude Tech: wrong channel !!!
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: can you describe the problem in more detail, huko?
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I dont know I havent been able to find consistancy with it
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I just know it stays blank until I issue a command, and sometimes the window gets hung up until i issue a command as well, its happened since I started playing
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: and since i saw you around and it just happened, i thought maybe id ask
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whoadude Tech: did you try turning it off and back on again 
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: yes sir
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: possible to screenshot?
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i will try next time it happens
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: why is it that everytime I try to change an alias or tigger and save it I get the error telnet_options.lua contains an invalid path?
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you'll get a better answer if you give the entire message
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That's an odd error to have, though. It sounds like someone modified the telnet_options.lua file, which shouldn't be the case.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: any mudlet experts here?
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Likely not, to be honest.
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peaceful Wars Tech: Only you online using mudlet currently. Might find someone that knows something about it though. Why not mush or a diff client?
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: was away from aard for a long time. I cant get mush booted up because im on mac, and wineHQ stops supporting mac since catalina
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: painful truth
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Cytan is pretty well versed in Mudlet and has put together some plugins for it, maybe worth sending him a note
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: otherwise, what are the alternatives client for mac users? mudlet was on the first google result thats why i downloaded
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevy Tech: You could try an online client
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: basically mudlet
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Xyzzy Tech: install wine and use mush?
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: unless you want to pay for Crossover
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Catalina doesn't like Win32 and MUSHclient loves it so ehhh WINE is no longer a quick work around . tldr versio nat least
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: crossover does support catalina. it's just not free
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: yea fiendish, i saw that CodeWeavers found a solution to basically support 32bit win prog on catalina. but it's not cheap
T3/r7/2020-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/Gcenx/wine-on-mac has some instructions for catalina that I think uses the crossover code
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Analogika Tech: How do I turn sounds on for Fiendish's mushclient package?
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: at all or to play while mush is in the background?
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: set them in triggers for events
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Analogika Tech: At all. I just started playing ^_^
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the help command for pwar's sound pack is sphelp
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: type sphelp
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what sounds are you expecting? I'm pretty sure there's no sounds by default
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Analogika Tech: Sweet thank you I will check that tou.
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Analogika Tech: The sound files were muted by default aparently. I can hear them now. Thanks for telling me about the help file!
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the default version of the client help can be seen by type aard help, Fiendish included lots of stuff that is "hidden"
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: one day I'll learn how to make things not hidden
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: test
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: I think I will never buy DvDs again, and just buy External Hdrives :)
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: A bunch of 2 TBs will be good, I don't trust a 4 TB.
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I use Durel's dinv plugin, and use "dinv consume big heal" and "dinv consume big mana" aliases to quaff. I'd like to set a trigger that automatically sends a message to gtell saying "I am out of healing/mana potions!" when I quaff my last one. Is there a way to do this?
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: umm no, that message is sent via NOTE/Print not echo from the mud
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: is there a way to get mini windows in mushclient to "snap"
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: into place
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: There is, but it has to be coded in the miniwindow. That's one of the things I'm going to really work on, too, with S&D.
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Analogika Tech: Is there a way to hear sounds from Pwar soundpack while on a different window? Like, while I'm doing my math homework on my browser, can I get it to continue to alert me with sounds? Right now I only hear event sounds when I am actively using the Mushclient.
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Analogika Tech: And I couldn't find anything in sphelp.
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: think I may have asked before but either didn't get a response or missed it...but is there any way to manually edit a cexit instead of recreating?
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: e.g. to bump a wait from 3s to 4s?
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: Analogika one way to do it would be do edit the sqlite databse directly. cexit just creates a new entry in the exits table for that uid
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twas Brillig Tech: I mean Borthain, sry. But I don't see a way to do this directly using mapper plugin
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: No, there's no way to edit it manually at the moment.
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: thanks Crowley
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: does mapper take into account tier levels when we use portals? or do we have to manually lower the level requirement?
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yes it does
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peaceful Wars Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes, so you don't have to add them to the mapper.
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Instead, use the portal's actual level.
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: thank you so much
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: what's the commadn to find our my version of aardclient?
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: checkversion
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: how do i trigger a message to play a sound? i added a sound file but it doesn't work.
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: did you first make sure the trigger was working properly? (add an echo or something)
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: how do i add an echo...>.< am really new to this lol
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Are you trying to do a specific thing, or like double, or what?
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: i just cut and paste the message i saw into the trigger part
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: There is a sound pack out there that has a bunch of diff options and ya just have to enable it
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: specifically for 'You feel as if you are being watched.'
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: add "echo test" to the trigger or something. if you see it pop up then your trigger is working properly, at least, and it's a sound problem
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: mush is kind of picky about what files it plays.
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: If that is the scry message, there is a sound in the soundpack for that
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Not sure how else to get it, but Pwar's plugin manager has a sound pack
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: hmmm.... will try lol thanks
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: the only thing I have seen that the sound pack doesnt have is when being attacked by a player
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: yeah i have that sound pack from pwar. just that i wasn't sure how to set up a trigger. i tried using test trigger but it didnt work.
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: you don't have to set a trigger - just turn it on in the soundpack
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: oh....
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Type spset to see the list of possibilities
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: sphelp to get the helpfile
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: spset is all at 100%
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Okay so you must not have the sound up?
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: hmmm... i didn't do anything after i downloaded the soundpack
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Type uh
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: spset scry volume 100
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: type spvol and see what the sound volume is at
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: all of those are at 100
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: also in volume control (win+r, sndvol, hit enter only way I know how to get to it) make sure mush isn't muted.
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: also try spmute to enable it if someone has not suggested already
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: it is now enabled
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: okies... all the sounds are coming in lol
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: awesome.
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: yeah id mute everything and then enable the ones ya want
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: sooooo.... sorry for the noob question but, how do i nute everything and enable the ones i want?
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: check sphelp
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: you can turn everything off and just turn on the ones you want
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: okies, thanks!
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: im using the latest mushclient. My comms log captures the comms, however the same comms are also duplicated in the main game window. Is that the norm?
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it's configurable
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: right-click on the comm log
T3/r7/2020-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: ahh got it to not echo. cheers Fiendish.
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: for some reason my dinv is not wearing my aard gear (especially bp and sanc aura). I set allmagic and allphys to 1.0 as well as sanc to 1.0, with no luck. can I do something to make it put priority on those?
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: when in doubt, do a refresh first
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: it works off your spellup to, so if you have sanc on, i dont think it wears it
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: hero spellups can mess stuff up too
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: maybe wear the set you desire then take a snapshot
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: oh. thanks, turns out I do have sanc, forgot I was cleric.
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I believe you can do something to fix that, but I am not sure how
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: One of the default things have a very in depth priority which shows what is possible
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: you can make it ignore a certain slot if you wanted to wear the breastplate etc
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: (How) can dinv display unused items with usage?
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you read dinv help, iirc there is a way to list items not in sets
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: I been looking :P
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: getting the list in to a usable format is a whole other game
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: you type dinv usage warrior etc
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: dinv usage psi-melee, etc
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yeah Shindo that's the issue i'm running into, so I'm hoping dinv can do the filtering for me
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: Huko, that gives used items, we want unused
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: it shows which are unused though
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: lol
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: that is used for unused and used, there is no way to use a "unused" flag for example
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: you can't dinv get unused etc, just that list shows
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: my bad, sorry
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so then it's copy paste and php or perl time
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i went 1 by 1 and got rid of all my unused, it was tedius, but freed so much space :D
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i'm a horder... if i need more space i hand in 50 poker cards
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i tried that, outta like 80 poker cards, i had 1 good set, it was depressing
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: what... four of a kind and royal flushes are all you should be hading ing, how can you not have 4 of a kinds?
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i dont know
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: im bad hoarder
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: im excited for t9 mostly cause i can get rid of my 71 set
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: since i started using dinv my level sets are very strange, it mixes and matches all sorts of odd stuff
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: yeah its goofy
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torched Welding Tech: yeah to be honest I typically use snapshot and manually set up eqsets
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I used dinv weapon next recently, it switched like 10 pieces and then my weapon, it was silly
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: i love it tho:)
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: my stats are all maxed and hr/dr is as high as it's gonna get with my gear but it looks weird
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: when working on a plugin in mush how do you disable it from popping up the code when you mess up on loading
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: where is the location of mapper backup file?
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: aardwolf.db in main fold
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: cheers
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: While we are retrogamers... The Looney Tunes app game is being coded by the only person in Hollywood that can literally not be fired. Corp HQs can fire heads of the majpr studios and talent agents. Lewis cannot
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: When should I install a game patch, before playing the new game, or only when you completed it?
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: If I install it after game completion, then I can experience all the quirks beforehand.
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: how do i use dinv to get items between level 50 and 80?
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: dinv get minlevel 50 maxlevel 80
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: woah alison quickdraw
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: You can add more keywords if you want specific stuff. eg. if you don't want to see potions you can type ~type potion or if you want to see aard stuff only you can type keyword aardwolf
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: so.. if i want portals of that range, we add type portal?
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: yes. you would type dinv get minlevel 50 maxelevel 80 type portal
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: dinv help query might prove a useful read.
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KFBR392 Limunious Tech: not all portals are keyworded portals
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: oooooh i didnt know that
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Racconto Tech: what is the command for the mapper to wait a bit longer?
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: cexit_wait? is that what you mean?
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: mapper cexit_wait
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Racconto Tech: yes that one ty
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: there's also wait(n) that you'd use within the cexit, depending on what you want to do
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 {-_-} RetroGamer Tech: test
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Windows really needs to stop enabling Virus protection whenever it chooses after I've disabled it. If I want to install a virus on my laptop, then LET ME INSTALL A VIRUS ON MY LAPTOP.
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: tnanks
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone use my scripts i want to ask you a couple quick questions, if you can shoot me a tell that would be nice :)
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: whats the link to your plugins?
T3/r7/2020-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: https://github.com/zzyzzyzzx/Hadar