T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: how to convert text colour from styles to xterm colour? like 34815 is x208
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: color 256?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mousie Tech: hey so what's the mapper command for the great city of knossos - so i don't have to keep buying silver and steak to enter the castle?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you need to setup a custom exit that does all that
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sorry, you'll always have to buy the stuff. There is no mapper command for it. However, you can create the cexit for it.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: see mapper help for a list of all the commands 
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: hi, I'm still having trouble with mushclient for some reason. can I please have some help
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: what's the problem?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: I downloaded the package I'm just not good at using mushclient so I don't know what to do after I open it
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: what are you trying to do that you can't?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: I don't think it's that I can't do it I think it's just that I don't know the right way to do it
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: I don't know how to use the client so I don't know how to open the package
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: if you double click on mushclient.exe does it open?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: oh I guess you said you opened it
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: it should open right into the game.  aard help will inform you on many of the features included.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: The more specific the question/description of the problem the easier it is to help. Here is a general answer to your problem. https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: is there a good way to put all of your nosave items into a container, besides quit check + hundreds of put commands?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Do you use DINV?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: no, what does dinv do?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I mean specifically about this
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: So many things. It's an inventory manager. With it you could type dinv put <bag> flag nosave.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Fingur Durel for it.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: does that run a command per nosave item?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: That would put all your nosave-flagged items into <bag>
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: by running a command per nosave item?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: when I opened it it just said multiple document interface manager or something like that and that was it
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: I mean... yes. There's no get all.nosave or anything like that in the mud :P
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: ok, that's what I wanted to know :)
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: like, you can almost batch it by making sure everything is keep except the quit check items, then "drop all", but that puts them on the ground rather than a container (and would probably make some disappear)
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triixxee Tech: how do you drag snd window if it gets stuck up at the top of screen and there is no way to get to title bar to drag it back down?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Sure. DINV doesn't care about that. You can do things on all items with a certain flag, or without a certain flag, or with x stats or weight or really any field that shows in identify.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: aardreset
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it just takes a long time to do it item-by-item, was trying to think creatively about how to do it in an O(1) fashion
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Download DINV and look at his code :P
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: rather than O(n)
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: to clarify: I already have code that does this
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it's just slower than I'd like
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: You're not going to get faster than doing it item by item, because the MUD doesn't support that.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yep, that's what I was trying to find out
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: thanks for the help!
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Well, not when it comes to flags anyway.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: can do all.keyword obviously, but that doesn't help with nosave items.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: hm, I guess I could probably speed it up by looking for all.<keywords> that hit batches of the items I'm interested in
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I assume dinv doesn't do that?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: a decent first pass is dinv put bag type key || flag isKey || flag nosave but that will grab some extra stuff too
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you're looking for nosave items, you can easily do that with DINV.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: I think I got it I think I was opening up the wrong app I didn't even look in the folder
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: dinv search flag nosave
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: He's looking for a faster way, Crowley :P
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: I guess.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I am
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: dinv get flag nosave :P
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or use dinv organize.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I think I can save a lot of time by getting everything from my keyring and putting the saveable items back into it, then doing put all.key <container>
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can specify organize to only look for nosave flags and then you can run it to put it into a bag of your choice.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it seems to save >100 commands on my current inventory
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sath: I helped someone set up a quit check alias the other day to do just that.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or trigger.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: is there a way to use invdata on your keyring?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Why would you need that? Quit check shows all the info you need.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: quit check doesn't show saveable keys
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nor does it need to.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If the item does not show up on quit check, then you don't lose that item.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I'd like a list of items in my keyring that are saveable so that when I use keyring get all, I can put the saveable items back into it, and leave the nosave items in my inventory
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: I gather he's trying to get/put all nosave items in less than linear time, so doing something item by item isn't an option. Why I'm not sure, but.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it takes like 30 seconds currently to put all of my nosave items into a container
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I'd like it to take less
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: is that weird?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: It's weird that it takes that long in the first place, yeah. DINV is faster.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Unless you have a million nosave items I suppose.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I have 222
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: ...
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: is there an easy way to dump all the duplicates
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I have a script for that, personally
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: just uses invdata and looks for duplicate names
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: (and no keep flag)
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Except there are keys with the same names in different areas.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: i got it ! thanks everyone 
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it's true, I do lose some keys that way
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: there are keys with same name in same area... scarred lands for instance
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: if you are that paranoid about time just alias the whole darn thing
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Sath, I can understand a little more now why you're having that problem. Though now I'm wondering why you have that many nosave items that you always need to carry :P
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: they're just all the keys I pickup and use while doing campaigns
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: do people not normally save those keys?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: some people like their keys
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Alias probably wouldn't work. If he has that many items, sending that many commands at once would DC him.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it's true that I need to do it in batches to avoid DCing
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: oh, right
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: I mean, I do save all my keys, too, but I don't pick them *all* up every time I log in.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: why not?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Well, for one, because I can't carry that many items :P
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: ah
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: And for two, it's unenecessary.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: unnecessary*
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I'm not really bottlenecked on inventory space right now
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: and it speeds up my cps considerably not to have to reacquire keys
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: When I get into a new area range, I just put away the keys I don't need anymore, and grab the keys I'll need for the next few levels.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I see. I don't have anywhere to permanently stash keys, so I only drop them when I log out
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: i just bought a bunch of pockets wishes and keep all my keys on me
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: keyring was a great idea but what people needed was a way to organize keys not a "special" bag for them
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: ah, that's fair. Doing what I do without a manor could get somewhat annoying.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: anyway, I think I can get the info I need by running invdata, keyring get all, invdata, quit check, and putting back all the new invdata entries that aren't nosave, then doing put all.key <container>
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: then one final quit check to put away the remaining nosave items by id
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sath: https://pastebin.com/j2ksQN1K --> triggers. https://pastebin.com/JGVCP9XL --> alias. You can modify it how you want, but it'll be the fastest way, seriously. In the 'drop bag' part of the alias, you can just do 'keyring put all'
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: that's what I'm doing currently, and it's very slow
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's the fastest way you're going to be able to do it, then.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I just said a faster way :P
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: utilizing put all.key saves well over a hundred commands
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it just takes a little setup to make sure that won't hit any saveable items
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Except you put all saveable keys, too.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But hey, whatever floats your boat, I guess.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The way you stated it, it seems much slower, and many more commands.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: invdata;keyring get all;invdata;quit check can be used to find all saveable keyring items, then I can put those back individually
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I only have 18 saveable keys
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: so that's 21 commands
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: and I save like 150 commands by using put all.key <container>
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: quitc - removes all non-saveable keys and puts all saveable back. That's one command. ;)
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ah, I see, you're counting the triggers, too. Heh.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: that takes 30 seconds to execute :P
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley smirks.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Though it would be nice if you could do: get all.nosave based on flag type. Heh.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: that's for sure
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: I know you don't have space problems, but I'd consider getting a manor anyway if you plan to do this longterm. I essentially just have a table of my keys that I can search by area/level range, and can get/put them quite easily that way.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: But admittedly having a private rooms helps not losing them :P
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yeah, that makes sense
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Also what Doc said.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Mis
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But not what she said?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Oh weight 1 yeah.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: ...
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: ok, I finished the code. It takes about 5 seconds rather than 25 seconds to stuff my nosave items into a container :D
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: i cav't find the vi help files on the webpage
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Assuming you're looking for Mushclient help? If so, it comes with a soundpack that should make things a lot easier to follow. Type 'spmute' to turn it on. 'Sphelp' for the helpfile.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: i can't find the vi help files on the webpage
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Also check out 'vi help'. That's another kinda helpful plugin that saves incoming text so you can review it.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: help vi, has a decent index to go from.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: how do i turn off the map
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Toggle off automap and maprun.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: how do i do that 
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Type 'automap' and 'maprun'.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: So that it says they're turned off.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: btw if you prefer web browser version for those vi helpfiles, check http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Main/VI
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Might also want to look into Help Damage and help Spamreduce for some options to cut down on spam.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: btw those 2 commands are covered in that wiki page i mentioned :P
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: is there pacage for vipmud 
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Not one already made... and vipmud is awful :P
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Did you get the no-visuals version of Aardmush?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: it is made for the blind 
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: I know. I've tried it. It sucks.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: VIPMUD, that is.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Also you have to pay for it.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: But I digress. If you're trying Mushclient, you want specifically the no-visuals version.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: true 
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: but i don't know how to use mushclient
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: What are you trying to do specifically?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: get to the output bar
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: There's an input bar. Focus is on that by default, when you open Mush.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: If you ctrl+tab, you should navigate to a notepad window that has all the output from the mud that you can arrow through.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Ctrl+tab again, and you should be back in the input bar ready to enter commands.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: i got the no visual version
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: that's what Areia is talking about
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: So that ctrl+tab should work. Were you able to move to those different areas?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: yep 
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Nice :)
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Anything else giving you trouble?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: my sounds are not working though
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Did you type 'spmute'?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: If so, what did it say?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: That's S-P-M-U-T-E, in case spelling it out is easier.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: thanks spelling it out worked
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia smiles happily.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: To get to the helpfile for that plugin, type S-P-H-E-L-P.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: All of the commands for the soundpack start with SP.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: cool can you spell  out the commands to turn off the map?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: A-U-T-O-M-A-P, M-A-P-R-U-N.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Like auto + map and map + run.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: do i have to turn on the sound all the time?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Nope. Just the once.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Similarly, any settings you change (e.g., volume, sound file names) are saved.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: is there music too?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Something like that you'd need to add yourself.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: The soundpack's more meant to alert you to specific events really.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: cool how do i learn the sounds?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: like what they mean
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: If you type 'spset', you'll get a list of all the events. each one has a brief description.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: The name of the event is what you use to change settings related to that event.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: e.g., to set the volume for the tech channel to half, you'd type 'spset tech volume 50'.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: how do i do the spam thing?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: You type the same thing over and over a hundred times.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: I'm kidding. Don't do that.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: What spam thing?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Oh, spamreduce?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: lol yeah
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Check out Help Spamreduce. It tells you all the options and how to use it.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: thanks 
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Any time.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: on chrome im trying to do a video call, it set my default microphone to a VAC cable, and wont let me change it (the dropdown is greyed out and cant click it) any suggestions on how i might fix?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: why not just use the vac cable and point your mic at it?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: it's a shitty fix but as a temp solution it's workable.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: is your mic set to default in windows settings?
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: yeah my mic is set default ... because i gotta find my vac stuff lol
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i just mapped it to line 1 as a quick fix i guess
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: oh Chrome browser, not a Chromebook. Because I was about to just say dont buy a chromebook in the first place :)
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: yeah that was what I was recommending.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i know you did, thats why i did it lol
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: sometimes my mics do that and I just create a route from mic->line1 and I'm good to go.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 404 Eroe nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: I'm not sure if it's a vac bug but there's nothing better out there.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: another website i used, used the correct input, now it used line 1 i was like what the actual glitchyness
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 404 Eroe flails his arms about wildly.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: hey join my world and add 3 soundcards to the mix. it's great fun, I promise.
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: "no money down, no credit card necessary" :)
T3/r7/2020-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Yikes! Using mush, I maximized screen but now there's nothing to click to reduce size. How can I minimize?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: for wifi, can multiple devices connecting to the same router cumulatively max out the router theoretical max speed?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: e.g. say a triband router is advertised as having a speed of 5400 mbps, but any device that connects to it is never going to get that connection speed (say 500mbps maybe). But if you have 10 devices connecting to it, can they all hit 500mbps? 
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: speed to what? internet or intranet?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: I'm sure if you had enough people and not enough bandwidth you could max out anything...
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: same thing right? i'm just wondering whether it's worthwhile getting a faster 1gbps line if your wifi connection is going to be at best 500mbps
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: internet or intranet? definitely not the same thing
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but if i have 2 devices connected, can they simultaneously both hit 500mbps (i.e. capping out the 1gbps line)
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: i guarantee unless you have a ridiculously old router that your router can handle any internet line you get
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: i have gigabit internet, 2400 mbps router for wifi
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: no, wifi isn't like that
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i just don't know if the actual speed of 500mbps from a router is actually using up the entire advertised router speed of 5400 mbps or whatever, not sure how it works technically
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but i take it the answer is no it's not, the router can handle multiple 500 mbps connections
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: yes, correct, multiple connections
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: cool, thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: do read the fine print because some routers split their bandwidth over 2.4g and 5g
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: the router i have is appareantly "1733 Mbps in 5 gigahertz" which is still a buttload of bandwidth for watching videos on youtube on my phone 
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: and some companies use fine print to tell you how much data you will actually get
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just dont want to pay the ISP for a faster line if that speed is never usable lol
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: quite a few companies have a good download speed but halve or even quarter your upload speed (that can also strangle how fast your commands get out to the game you are playing...)
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i would love some fiber ... but the place i live does not have that option ... but the neighbors on both sides of me do
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if the router is dual band, should you be connecting to both wifi connections at the same time?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowgazer Tech: isnt one wifi meant for distance and the other for strngth/intensity?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: you can only connect to one at a time
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowgazer Tech: yea, thats why i thought
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowgazer Tech: if you look it up on google it will tell you which you should use depending upon your needs/wants
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so wifi cards that are advertised as dual or triband still just use 1 connection, but it'll automatically use whatever extra bands i assume
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowgazer Tech: its a frequency thing
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: or you get something like having two mice on one computer and two people trying to do different jobs... 
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: yes, the highest bandwith wifi also has the shortest range
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: but... if you are close to the router ethernet is ALWAYS the best option
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i just ran a 100ft cat 6 to my room because reasons
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowgazer Tech: old faithful:P
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowgazer Tech: has ethernet technology advanced? how efficient is is in comparison to the best wireless connection?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: even old ethernet tech is better than wireless :p
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: uh. ethernet has always been faster than wireless.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: trust copper
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: unless physically cut, ethernet almost always works
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: good for porn and IUDs!
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: goat pron
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there's cat 6 now but i don't think there's any point to it unless you're transferring files on your intranet
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowgazer Tech: believe in the metal:) sounds solid
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowgazer Tech: of course Eroe took it there
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: so much shade from someone I don't know!
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 404 Eroe sobs in misery.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: well, cat6 only works if your ports are fast enough. otherwise it's just wasteful.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: no, but seriously, cat 5e or 6 both have better sheilding from outside crosstalk and interference
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: even wifi speeds which are fairly decent have a ton of interfearance and spike a lot more than ethernet traffic will.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: if your area is relativly noisy (radio towers nearby) close to the interstate (cb radios in trucks) or near old fire towers (quite a few of them still sport microwave antennas)
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: eh, I live in a pretty dense urban area, none of that from what I know of, but there are at least 60 wifi networks in range. That's a lot of noise, even on the 5g band.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: cat5e and 6 can resist intereference from those sources much better
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: and nobody can snoop your network if you use ethernet exclusively and turn off the wifi
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: if you're using WPA2 people aren't getting much from your network anyway, and someone really determined could just hook into your trunk.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: In terms of reasons for ethernet vs wifi that's kind of low :p
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: well, you are right...
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mute
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oops
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Wired will almost always be better than wireless.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: i use ethernet for my gaming computer and tv and nas and stuff like that, and wifi for mobile devices and a workstation in my office
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: (I guess this is the proper channel) How do I modify what the numpad command assignments are?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: (I guess this is the proper channel) How do I modify what the numpad command assignments are in CMUD
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm, I gotta remember.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And yes, it's the correct channel.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: its just in the world settings no?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: oh cmud
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i have it open hold on
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i think there is a command to redefine them ... been awhile i dont remember much about it
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Heh, I thought I had it downloaded, but it mysteriously keeps getting uninstalled.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: #KEY, I think it was.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: #KEY Numpad1 {Do something}, I think.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: ahh, its under the english keypad package!
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: that would affect all sessions though iirc
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: I'll take a look! Thank you! :D 
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: yeah, when in settings there is a box in the topright that says pacakage: just change that to english keypad and you can edit the defaults there, you can also remove the package and setup your own macros
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: ahh excellent
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: I found it. Thank you so much!! :D 
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I was right. It IS #KEY Numpad1 {Do commands}
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So you can do: #KEY Ctrl+F1 {smile}, etc.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: sometimes i miss cmud ... but i dont because i dont miss my stuff becoming corrupted all the time
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Useful Hadar.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Corrupted?!
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: what do you mean?!
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: MUSH has become more superior, though. The only true thing I hate is not being able to edit stuff and still type in the command line.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: cmud had an issue of corrupting packages
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Settings would sometimes get corrupted in CMUD. CMUD also is no longer in development, so you'll never see another upgrade.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's why so many people are MUSH users now.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: I see
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: considering most if not all cmud scripters also moved to mush
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I used to be a heavy scripter on CMUD. Had many packages and scripts. I converted them over to MUSH, though.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: cmud is easier for basic stuff, after that it just loses to mush imo
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Dang
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: and the way he wormed out of upgrades was shady, but thats not for this channel
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Redryn.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: I only used CMUD because that's what I used when I was a kid.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: I didn't even know about MUSH when I came back.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: time to switch :p
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Would it be worth it to switch?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just download the aard mush package
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Very much so.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Got a link to where I can grab a copy?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Finger fiendish.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: He maintains the official AardMUSH installer.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: the only thing i really liked with cmud over mush was the mapper is just a bit more powerful on cmud imho (but mush has potiential to get there)
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Ahhh... and I spent so much time setting up CMUD! :(
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Oh well...
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'd think mush mapper is already on par, no?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, the mapper, you could force a custom exit in a particular direction so you could just type that direction rather than the custom exit.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: cmud could handle mazes easier(see the whole maze on the same layer to see which room you are at) made certain mazes trivial without extra scripts
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: For the most part it is, Redryn. Just a few features that CMUD had that won't be available here. The mapper here is far more powerful, otherwise.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you could probably implement those features i'd imagine
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: as Crowley said, the custom exits was my favorite thing
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sounds like a 1 hour patch job :p
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Eh, I think it was brought up to Fiendish before, but I forget what he said about it.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i have been thinking about it, but i have also been lazy and need to actually work on stuff like hadar.ninja and get the plugins working to update hadar.ninja
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Probably more than just a 1 hour patch job. :P
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: it would require the database to be redone or something like that
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: eh
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'd just set up aliases for n/s/e/w/u/d, and check a table for room id. IF it matches, then u just use whatever custom command
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: but for like 99% of things, the standard mush map is fine, eventually ill probably get into editing the way the mapper works, but thats down the line once i take care of hadar.ninja
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, yeah, you can do that. But in CMUD, you could actually SEE the room.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not so much in MUSH.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: I mean, CMUD is working great for me right now tbh
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Neclord: It will, for a while. Then eventually, your settings will get corrupted.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Neclord (
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I got into the habit of making backups of backups just in case.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Now I want to dig into the code.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Don't do this to me. I code too much at work already.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: thats why i loved having the map on 1 layer, could see rooms that went up or down, custom color them so you know things in advance and you could see it right away if you forgot
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Good luck getting it from Zugg. He will never release the code for it, even though he hasn't actively worked on it for a decade.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: even if he does, there is a bunch of third party stuff he uses that he does not have the code for either
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Useful Hadar.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Hrmm...
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Used Delphi for the language.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think that was one of the reasons he stopped working on it - the technology couldn't support it anymore.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: I guess it's probably better to switch now, before I become even more entrenched and get super pissed when things go awry.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You'll be pleased with MUSH. There's already a lot set up in MUSH that people had in CMUD.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Mapper, group plugin, comm logs...
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Stats window, gauges...
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And so many others create plugins for MUSH, too.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hadar and myself are just two of them.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i think there is just a few of my scripts i never moved from cmud because i did not need to, like my "language" scripts
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i should re-do my binary and piglatin scripts
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley smirks.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think I brought over everything from my old scripts.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i moved them to lua before i left cmud so it would not be that much conversion
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Useful Hadar.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gwynyfar burns sage to rid tech of that Crawley odor
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's exactly what I did the final year of using CMUD.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pestallel Tech: I'm sorry, what is that you're doing with your channel text colour there?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Rude! It's CrOwley, not CrAwley! :p
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's a gradient alias I wrote.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: creepy crawley lol
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i was re-writting one of the games i wrote in zscript into lua and never finished it, it was basically rock paper sissors, use to play it with boot members
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley pats Gwynyfar on her head.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: heh
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I started with Deal or No Deal conversion myself.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Converted that over, then started everything else.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: https://imgur.com/a/lnbf4vb
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Well.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: This has everything I was trying to accomplish with CMUD LOL
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I don't see an image load up.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I guess that means you were trying to accomplish NOTHING.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: https://imgur.com/sqNrVor
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: that one?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There we go.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: lol we were talking about corruption and when i started up cmud, i had some :P
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: if i was not having fun working on trackers i would convert old stuff (maybe in the future most of it was un-needed and just fun to do/learn)
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I need to update my themed quest tracker, to be honest. It was a port of GdAnGuS's quest tracker, and I enjoyed porting it over.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i need to finish mine
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: Last Q (0h 0m 11s) Total Qps: 58 / Breakdown: 19 base, 2 mccp, 6 tier, 2 opk, X2 / Bonus: 2816 Gold
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: [Quest] Last Mob: [a Molyneuxan citizen] in [Loredo Avenue] in [Rebellion of the Nix] Time: [0m 37s] Base Rewards: [22qp, 4863gold] Bonuses: [No bonuses]
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley smirks.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: q stats -> https://i.vgy.me/8BR8CP.png
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i never put that function in mine, i just made it tracks quests and cps and forgot about it lol, did not even finish gquests
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: but it does have hadarmagic :P
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: cps and whatnot was something I wanted to add to it, too. Just never got around to it. Plus, there's a bug when it times out I need to fix.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pestallel Tech: uhm... are those available somewhere as a plugin?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Under my github.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: same with mine :P
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: My most popular plugins, though, are the Aard clock and SnD.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: my stuff is not popular :P
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: but hadarmagic :P
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hadar steals my code. ;)
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: not as popular but i hear people talk about it all the time, hadar
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nah, Hadar's good people. He has some good plugins. :)
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: my main thing is that you can make custom messages without having to edit any code
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And popularity is a joke anyway. People use what they want to use. Don't use mine? Awesome. Use something you like. Use mine? Awesome. I can give support when needed. :)
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pestallel Tech: oh nice ... plugin managers make the world go 'round :D 
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: but you give support even not on yours, cause you rock crowley
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley beams with pride.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: same, i think someone was surprised that i actually support my own code because some of the plugin writters just poofed, i dont "play" as much but i still make sure to check aard daily incase something i wrote broke and people are complaining
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I just enjoy helping people, especially when it helps them learn and grow, too.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pestallel Tech: I'll check everything out. Thank you both, Crowley and Hadar ... looking forward to playing around with things :)
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Useful Hadar.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Okay, that was a really good move. Thank you friends.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: on that note ... now that the exp tracker got love, i need to go back to working on my plugin manager plugin, and my gold tracker needs love
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Some of those things were made in early years of learning to code plugins for MUSH. Much more advanced now. Helped Hadar with a situation yesterday with his plugins, in fact. And others. We help each other, those who care to, anyway.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly at Useful Hadar.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley beams a smile at Neclord.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pestallel Tech: This is just a question, Crowley, but is there a reason you chose not to make a manager? Or you do have one and I'm not seeing it?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: How do I emote on a public channel?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pestallel Tech: leading asterisk
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Neclord: socials use * (tech *smile) or you can do tech :dances like a maniac!.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pestallel beams a smile at Neclord.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Neclord throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Neclord firmly believes that 'sedit' is only used by maniacs and crackheads.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: Crowley, i did not like the way pwars ppm worked, so im writting my own that does sha checking rather then basing it off zip files, it can just grab the raw files, so you can make a custom github file to track scripts that are not even mine (if it works like i hope once im done)
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Pestallel: Well, mainly because I didn't have enough to really warrant one. But most of my code contains its own update command.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pestallel Tech: Oh cool, gotcha!
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Useful Hadar.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: how do i send a raw action in mushclient script?  say i want to bypass gauntlet
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: Send()
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What do you mean? In script, Send("whatever") sends it raw, and Execute sends aliases and whatnot.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: SendSpecial()
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: so it would be send("bypass gauntlet")?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: everything has to be in ""?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: if you are not calling an alias, or a variable then yes
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i mean just variable
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But it has to be Send, not send.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Maybe I'll make a plugin manager at some point, who knows? :p
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: or I'll just teal Hadar's and share links with him. :p
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: sounds right! ima even give it hadarmagic
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: buhaha
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: and everything in the quotes act like i'm typing in command line right?  so i can do multiple actions separated by ;?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: what i dont like is i cant use my hadarprint() function with Hyperlink() so i have to figure out a different way to format
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I laugh, because so many people have asked my permission to use my update code lately. I'm all for anyone using the update code. It's not like it's hidden to where no one can access it. It's just knowing how it works that matters. :P
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you're doing multiple commands, you'd have to use Execute.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: someone was looking at my plugin manager alpha code, and was like how does it even work lol
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But that won't send it raw, so if you had an alias called 'bypass', it will execute the alias.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You'll have to use multiple Send functions.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: are they in an alias what you want to bypass?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: because you can loop through it
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: yeah just want to bypass clear and bypass different areas on level up so i'll just do multiple sends
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasur Tech: is there a way to shorten text that is collected in a variable. for example, my disarm trigger uses "sends your * flying" then sends get %2 but the bard weapons for example the uranias circle of stars doesnt like it if you type get uranias circle of stars. So I was wondering if there was a way to get it to send get urania instead
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Could do a script and sub string it.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: could also use tags to grab the id of the item when disarmed
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That, too. And that is more efficient, honestly.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hadar: Funny thing is, I set up customizable strings in my themed tracker years ago. :p
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, I was already doing hadarmagic long before you did. Interesting. *shifty*
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Crowley, when i wanna load Aardwolf_Clock ot doesnt work.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Are you downloading the file, or right-clicking -> Save as?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I saved and placed the one xml in Pluin folder, when i wanna load the file in plugins menu I get Line   69: Attribute name 'data-pjax-transient' not followed by '=' (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: that's not an xml file, that's what github gives you when you right-click, select download
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Save as does not work with Github. Go back to the Aard_Clock folder, look for the green Code button, click it, and download zip. Then extract the plugin.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Ty
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: github saves the *download web page) as the xml file when you use "save as" for some bizarre reason
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Nice I got it working, is there commands for the clock?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I guess its just plug it in and view lol, no editing required.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Pretty much, though you can type 'aardclock help' to see what commands there really are.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: OK, what is themed tracker about?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's a quest tracker that is highly customizable.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Lastly, commands for that one?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Can create custom report strings, or custom color schemes. This is the output of q stats: https://i.vgy.me/jxPyUf.png
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: q help
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I should update "Arcidayne" to now read Crowley... since I haven't been Arcidayne for a few years now.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ZzZzZz bows deeply.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Nods. I wanted to save that xml last time for the clock with Github, but it not wanna work.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Its fine now when downloaded full zip fodler.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley smiles happily.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ZzZzZz smiles happily.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Just marvellous, full of detail and pretty q tracker, was looking for ages to get something like that.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}One-Winged Macbeth Tech: anyone has any idea why sometimes my output line from mud is in blue? Blue as in not @B or @b but the script Note("this shade of blue")
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley beams a smile at ZzZzZz.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}One-Winged Macbeth Tech: initially i thought was colorbleeding but no.. concluded it is not
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There is a slight bug, but no one ever seems to time out. I need to fix that, though, and maybe give it a bit of an update. :P
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ZzZzZz nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Tip of the day: If you want some cool backgrounds for MUSHclient or your desktop, go to http://cleanpng.com. They all have transparent backgrounds, so they are suitable for plenty of occasions. Just make sure you actually DOWNLOAD them and not save image. Found out that removes the alpha layer.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Crowley I like the quest reporters Grape AND Peach theme lol. 
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley beams with pride.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can create your own themes, too. ;)
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ZzZzZz whistles appreciatively.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: helpdesk ticket, someone random laptop issue, follows up with, "Also when I turned the Wifi hotspot on earlier it had a message on there from Domino's Pizza."
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: do verizon jetpacks display ads now
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: verizon sells jetpacks?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: if i add another package to mushclient how would i flip between the two
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: its a shame this is a nocurse channel - i have an answer for that :p
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: if i add another package to mushclient how would i flip between the two?
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: control - O is open world, I'm not sure what exactly you mean by package in this context.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: If it's just a plugin shift + ctrl + p then select add.
T3/r7/2020-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: thanks 
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Oh
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Oh, really?
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Oh oh
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It's magic
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: has anyone had a script persist? like someone uninstalled my script and is still getting an error message from it, its not in the plugin list either
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: had them restart mush and still getting the error also
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Are you sure it's coming from a plugin and not triggers you had MUSH-side?
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: I had a problem where I made some changes to your xp script and wanted to go back to your defaults and uninstalled and reinstalled a fresh .xml but the old settings remained
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Have them disable triggers from the GUI, and see if the error still exists.
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: see its my exp script, but they are getting an error message
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: what error message?
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: that expGained had a previous error
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: I had an error message if I did not have hxp session start done
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mousie Tech: Trigger function "expGained" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: but a reload of the plugin plus hxp session start cleared that up
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: oh yeah, me putting in new variables and not forcing them to reload that was your issue :P
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mousie Tech: crawley  disabling triggers helped
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: wtf is up with everyone calling me Crawley lately?! :p
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: lol i just always forget your E so im like fing crowly ... wait E
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pestallel shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: so Mousie seems to have my script stuff in his gui ... how did that even happen
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mousie Tech: it's mousie - stuff's bound to break xoxo.
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mousie Tech: yeah the 2 aliases were added somehow - no idea - ^had help$ and  ^hxp ?(.*)?
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mousie Tech: we got all the hadar things figured out just  had some extra trigers/alises that needed removed - ty crawley
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You're welcome, Maisie.
T3/r7/2020-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: lol crowley
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: Hadar, what is ExcludeConsider plugin?
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: it excludes mobs when you condier and sends them to a message, someone asked for it from my flist for inferni think
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: ok, ty:))
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: I'm trying to keep track of which gear I use through a mort. Is there a way I can designate dinv to put everything it removes in a specific bag so I can see what's left?
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can use organize for it based on level.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: yeah. I have multiple pieces of the same level in some instances though.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Theoretically, you can change the order of your bags.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: dinv put <bag> worn?
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: so I kinda just wanted to say like, put everything in 2.bag and then whatever is left in first bag will be leftover gear I didn't wear.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Ah
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I don't know if changing the order of the bags will help, though.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: I don't think so, pretty certain dinv puts things in by id.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But it has relative location of #.bag. Hmm.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: maybe I can just hack it to always use 2.bag
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: the "dinv store" mode puts things back into the last container an item was in.  If you are tweaking things, it would probably be easiest just to have the store mode put it in a hardcoded container
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Here's another thought.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 404 Eroe declares the academy a waste of time, then asks how the hell do you play this mud anyway?!
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Create a snapshot each time you change eq (yes, you'll create a lot of them.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: uh. that was supposed to be a nod, am clearly newb.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 404 Eroe nods at (Aleister) Crowley.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: ). Then at the end of the mort, pull everything out of a bag, then wear each snapshot. Put all into a separate bag, remove all, put all into 2.bag, or whatever.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It'll be a bit of work, though.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: oh nods. that's actually not a terrible thought.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: yeah but I don't mind. thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: I prefer it to hacking dinv.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And just repeat the process until you've worn the last snapshot.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 404 Eroe nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: that's actually what I do on redos.  I created a snapshot for every 10 levels and when I request a cp, I autowear the closest snapshot to my level.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: i created a snapshot  for each 10 levels. takes a bit of work and you have to update the snapshot with every change but it works pretty ok
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: why a snapshot when dinv priorities could just wear the latest?
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: i just like it i guess
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: snapshots are a bit faster since you don't need to find the right gear
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If only there were a way to pull results from 'analyze' and store based off that.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 404 Eroe nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: makes sense.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: though i wish their was a replace all item in snapshot, updating all of them with my new pin every tier is annoying
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: so if I can save a few seconds I will :P  I do use the "set wear" mode to find the right thing for snapshots though
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Hrm why use a snapshot over what priority/analyze do?  Just curious.  I've never setup a snapshot well never needed to.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: he just said. snapshots are faster than a priority because it just loads without having to find pieces.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Do you really save time having to setup individual snapshots and having to edit/change them tho? =p  I change eq way too often.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: i use the minimum on dinv, just snapshot. its the only functionality i wanted out of it. i have refresh set to off always cause it was annoying me
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I used dynamic sets when I was leveling but on redos I really don't change my eq much (ever :P) so snapshots are a slightly better fit for me now
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: i can see that for t9 or when you're eq is mostly complete. hopefully I'll be there one day.... lol
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reaktor Tech: Any current sharptracker.xml?
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reaktor Tech: like: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/zzyzzyzzx/Hadar/master/ZZZZ(Not%20Hadar's%20Fixes)/Sharptracker_v3.6h.xml
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That is as current as you're going to get.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reaktor Tech: How about https://github.com/abutbul/Aardwolf-Mushclient-Scripts/blob/master/davidsharp.xml
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hadar has been working on his exp tracker. Find his notes on tech board.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reaktor Tech: ktnx
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i guess i could update sharptracker again
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Reaktor grovels in the dirt before Useful Hadar.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Why do that when you've got exp tracker, which is the same thing?
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Useful Hadar shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reaktor Tech: I was just curious before I started doing things.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Make the exp tracker even better than sharp.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: it already does a lot :P
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Precisely.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: on a side note ... time to work on the gold tracker
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go The Lord Jesus Christ!!!  Reaktor cheers it on.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Useful Hadar!!!  Braun cheers him on.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: so i wanted to create a dev branch for my plugins, is there a way to seperate the branches directories on my computer? ATM they both use the same one
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: is there a way to force this to seconds instead of minutes? SetTimerOption("millionTimer", "minute", tostring(newTime))  I tried "second" but that didn't seem to work for what I was trying.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reaktor Tech: seconds?
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I tried second and seconds it and it still seems to fire every minute.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Xyzzy Tech: it should be "second"
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Yeah I tried that hrm, something else must be overwriting it.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: for anyone who was having an error with my exp plugin saying a variable was nil or missing or something, i just pushed a fix
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: hrmmm
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: if i wanted to add some time together, i can do starttime = os.time() ... after awhile stoptime = os.time() ... totaltime = stoptime - starttime ... which would give me the difference, i can then do totaltime*1000 to get the seconds it was right?
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: os.time() returns the time in seconds, not milliseconds so I don't think you should *1000
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I have a 'timediff' function. :p
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: so do i, but i was going to keep track of time over multiple periods
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What do you mean over multiple periods?
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, you mean hourly, minute, daily, whatever?
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The same timediff function can work for it all. Just when it updates, change the endtime, and go from there. Don't need to do anything extra fancy.
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: im adding in total time in combat to my exp tracker so each time you are in combat, i want to track that and store it after into another table, i could just use timediff and add together everything but i think i would get weird moments like minutes > 60 so i would need to check for that
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DirtyBubble Tech: whats a good client to use for android?
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: blowtorch
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i only know blowtorch
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: blowtorch. sign up for the beta, its the latest update
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: is there a command to restore the group monitor plugin from fiendish if it dissapeared?
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: aard help
T3/r7/2020-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: it has some layout funtions
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vibrating Vinatia Tech: is there a reason why lately when i do cps/gqs my mapper shows no rooms even though i have the area 100% explored?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vibrating Vinatia Tech: only in certain areas though
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: no mapper cexit to bring you to that room
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: did you purge the area when an update was made for the area without exploring it again?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: usually its because the room name changed
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vibrating Vinatia Tech: thats not the case cause when i use mapper area <room name> and mapper goto <number> it works
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: which area?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: another possibility is that your SnD doesn't have the area added yet because its not included in the default list of areas yet
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vibrating Vinatia Tech: most recently Tilule, but there are like 4 or 5 other areas it does it in as well
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: u need to xset mark the start pointb there
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: tilule is tather new
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: I had to go in the xml and manually add titule then recompile lol
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: your area index might be broken. try xset area index
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: also places with mazes at front, like tir, cvs
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: ah, does xset area index modify the xml file? Maybe I just have an old version that didn't have the titule keyword
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: xset area index is all I had to do to fix it, way back
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vibrating Vinatia Tech: i tried typing xset area index and it says Sorry Vinatia, I don't understand you
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: I
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: I'll look into the aliases to see what it does lol
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: which version of snd, and have yee updated it?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vibrating Vinatia Tech: I am using mobber
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: try mobber addzone 50 80
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: may need to do mobber developer first
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vibrating Vinatia Tech: (Mobber) This area already exists in the mobber database.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: mobber update rooms, does that say that rooms were copied over to the DB?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vibrating Vinatia Tech: that was while i had developer on
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vibrating Vinatia Tech: (Mobber) 108 room(s) imported from Aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: now try cp check again
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vibrating Vinatia Tech: perhaps thats it?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vibrating Vinatia Tech: i will have to wait til next cp mob in the area cause i used mapper area to find the mob :p
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vibrating Vinatia Tech: awesome next cp had a room in tilule and it worked... thank you so much :D <3
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: ah ha! so in S&D xset mark does change the xml file and addes an entry for the start room of an area, so instead of doing it manually, just go to an area that shows up in area 1 300 keyword as no start room set, and type xset mark, and you should be good to go lol
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: is there a quick way to undo the split screen for new mushclient?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ctrl+End
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: sigh.   have to get up and get to my keyboard, my ipad doesnt have end key
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: try ctrl+spacebar?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, that's another one, one I didn't know about.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ctrl + spacebar worked. thank you.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: awesome :)
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Crowley, are you here?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I started looking at the mapper code to make it draw up/down connections, and it turns out THATS ALREADY A FEATURE AND I CANT READ HELP FILES PROPERLY :-/
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: anyway, PSA: mapper updown makes the mapper draw up and down connections
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: what would we use that for?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: seeing room that are connected upward and downward
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: doesn't the mapper draw them when we exlore up and down?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: to see that rooms had exits up or down from them, the / from the corner of the square indicates those
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yes, this actually draws the rooms that are in those directs, and any rooms branching off of them
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it wasn't on for me by default
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah i beleive mine does that on its own
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: why i asked, wondered if i was missing something
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: idunno, maybe mine got somehow misconfigured? weird that it wasn't enabled when I loaded the mushclient package
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I've been playing the last couple months being unable to see anything but the current level of rooms :P
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it isn't on by default, it does however draw the connections by default
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: oh
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: well, I find it VERY useful to be able to see the rooms and their offshoots too
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: maybe we should ask fiendish to change the default to on
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I don't really get why the default would be off. Maybe performance or something?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: oh i just turned them on too, didn't know it did that
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: so i did leanr something
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sath :)
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: perfomance, back when you used to have to walk to school barefoot in the snow uphill
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: funny thing i think i like it beter this way
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: there are some vertical areas where the mapper is essentialy useless
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: the visual map I mean
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: without this option
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it's not because of performance
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: no?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I mean that makes sense :P
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it's because I felt that it was visually nicer to show the current layer
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: ah, ok
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I don't think there's any performance difference
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yeah, shouldn't really be
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I'd argue for swapping the default or making the option more visible (by including it in the context menu), but I certainly respect whatever decisions you make
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IAC DO Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: one day I'll rewrite the whole thing
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: introduce lots of fun new bugs for people to hate
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Linkdead} Garamis Tech: anyone recommend a good font for aardmush?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: consolas
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vandit Tech: wingdings
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Courier New
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Don't be redic with Wingdings.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'd suggest a fixed width font, like Comic Code: https://www.myfonts.com/fonts/tabular-type-foundry/comic-code/
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: if you aren't using consolas then you might as well freeze char
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Kalsch.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Linkdead} Garamis Tech: the communication log has a different font, how do u change that one in aardmush
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Oh this ain't bad.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: right-click on it
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Trying it now.  I tried other fonts, that I didn't love because the special chars like {} []
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I use JetBrains Mono for text and Courier New in my ascii map because jetbrains mono doesn't support box drawing characters
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Linkdead} Garamis Tech: cool
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beat It 2x Anaristos Tech: Miriam Fixed is good, so is Dina. They must be downloaded.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Dina is included
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beat It 2x Anaristos Tech: ah good
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but setting your output font to Dina without installing it at the system level will fail when you start up mushclient
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beat It 2x Anaristos Tech: I like the way Dina draws the extended ascii maps :)
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so if you use Dina for the main output font, make sure to actually install the font to the system 
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beat It 2x Anaristos Tech: right
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient and Lua questions answered here
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: if i wanted to lua the lua could i lua to the lua?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: dang ok
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: new idea ... useless plugin activate
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: actually somehow 1 person managed to get some of my script components put into their mush (like the GUI areas) but so far only heard it happening to 1 person, what might cause that?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Translated: Someone installed one of Hadar's plugins. Somehow, some of the aliases from the plugin managed to get created clientside rather than stay in the plugin.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: maybe they tried to "import" the plugin
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: hrmm maybe
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You know what, I bet that's precisely what they did, because this same person's friend had an issue with one of my plugins, and THEY imported it, too.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: that sounds about right buhaha
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I'm thinking about playing around with the mapper, trying to make pathfinding more efficient. For example, forcing the entire db into the room cache so that the pathfinding algo doesn't need to make a bunch of giant sql queries. Has anyone already played around with anything like that?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Could you make use the fastest route possible?  Hate that it uses a portal to run back to the area when my room is less than 10 or rooms away. lol
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: sounds like the sort of thing that would cause a small pause on startup - which is, of course, the worst possible thing.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: stormwind, have you tried mapper walkto?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: yes, but I don't want to remember when to use walkto vs when not to. =\
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: most of the time it does use the fastest route, guess i could use it when in the area, but still need to setp different aliases for that.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it takes *gasp* 700ms to load my entire 31014 room database into memory :P
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Pfft, 31014? Weak.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: sorry :(
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: and now I can just remove all sql calls right? :P
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I wouldn't...
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: waiting is torment given form, and 700ms is an eternity.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yeah...
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But do what you feel you must.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: if you have the databse in memory anyway, why not run your sql queries thru it? bound to be faster than it was on disk.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I don't mean a ramdb, I mean loaded into the Lua rooms table
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: which, for certain operations, is bound to be WAY faster than a db query
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: that would make sql queries more difficult.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yeah, I obviously can't just remove all sql queries
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: so now you have to do all the fact-finding yourself.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yep
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: might be worth invetigating the ram-db idea :p
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: the issue is more about getting data into and out of the db, building giant query strings is really slow, and table lookups are really fast
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: hmm.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ahhh, but you see - 'slow' in ram might be so much faster than 'fast' on disk that it wouldnt matter.  empirical testing to the rescue?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I'm sure the db software is loading everything into RAM under the hood, I don't think anything is really happening from disk during runtime
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: empirial.   testing.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: of course, even if the db itself isnt loading into ram, theres a fair chance the os is doing it behind the behind the scenes.... harder to test that.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: unless you want to try coding, or finding, a db that does all its work un-cached.  technically possible, but not easy to do.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Is it really slow enough to warrant bothering to start with, though? Can't say I've ever noticed mapper getting hung up or anything.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yeah, I'm doing dozens of findpath calls in some cases, it can take a couple seconds
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mannec crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Areia.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: tragic
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i reiterate:
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: waiting is torment given form, and 700ms is an eternity.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: What're all those calls for? If you don't mind sharing. I'm just curious now :D
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: things like finding the nearest mob in the area that'll be a good exp kill
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: im tempted to suggest a strictly recursive breadth-first approach ... but only because the last time i tried that on a field of any worthwhile size, it imploded :p
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: how do you do breadth first with recursion?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Huh, interesting.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: that is, in fact, a very good question.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: poorly, in my experience.  recursion is naturally a better fit for depth-first.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yeah, I think I'll be doing a new nonrecursive breadth-first implementation inside the mapper plugin
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mannec crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: wait are you talking about bringing the entire mapper dp into memory?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: put some thought into a "both ends towards the middle" approach.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: yikes.  not sure how well that would work.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: why's that?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: 33k rooms each room having additional information to it.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: have you ever tried solving a maze from the end towards the beginning? it is often much easier.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I wrote the code to do it and my MUSH.exe is taking less than 1GB of RAM
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mannec snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL sells ==BOT STRONG== bracelets, to raise gold and awareness of botters' rights.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: its a trick i learned from ants.  ive seen it applied to several flavors of graph-theory questions, like network transmission rates, street and highway optimization, that sort of thing.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: both ends makes sense, you can truncate a lot of nonviable paths quickly, but it also takes more code/time to implement, so we'll see :P
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: especially since the current room cache format only includes one-way directional references
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: the general idea is, start pathfinding from some number of more or less randomly chosen starting points, and the paths will tend to intersect fairly quickly.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: the result isnt guaranteed to be optimal, but it is usually pretty close, and generally pretty quick to find.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: and now i feel a rather strong desire to design an area with pathological connections...
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Weird, I don't see you on rank 15 anywhere. I guess you got your DB from someone?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: nope, I think it's because I haven't fully explored the continents
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: but the db comes with those
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Ah, gotcha.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone have any experience with davinci resolve? when i import my video its seeming to cut it off before the end
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Is it odd that a monitor these days is "HD" and just 1920 x 1080 VGA?  I feel like monitors I bought 10 years ago had better resolution...
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Is there somthing about tech these days that makes the resolution matter less?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beat It 2x Anaristos Tech: 1920 x 1080 is the defintion of HD and it is not VGA but XGA
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: monitors have been getting bigger instead of finer.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah I get HD resolution, I just think that's TV resolution....but monitors have always been higher in my memory!
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Granted been a while since I have been in the market...
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: tv was, for many years, the bottom of the resolution game - but often larger in viewable area.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: No, HD is 1280x720.  1920x1080 is _FULL_ HD,  As opposed to 3840x2160 which is _ULTRA_ HD.  I'm still waiting to see what SuperMegaKickassHD is.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: that difference has been growing less recently, with the advent of 4k tv and bigger monitors, and of course the signalling is basically the same now too...
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: im waiting for 16k smartphone
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: so i can watch utube cat videos in SERIOUS boy resolution :P
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Feline regurgitation in 1080p lacks so much of the nuance of the experience.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: meh.  anything over about 1k you cant even see.  its the supermegahyperpro sounds thats the next big thing.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: 4k mp12, baby.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: quit trying to apply logic to hardware manufacturers
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: they need MONEY
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: and you should give it to them, you arent some kind of cave man are you?!
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beat It 2x Anaristos Tech: there are some who say that 8K is a waste that the human eye barely handles 4K
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: nah, they can just shift their business model to govt. subsidies.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: 4k is mostly wasted.  resolution basically topped out at 1k, all the bigger numbers do is let you make the screen bigger.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: 1k would be, like, 1024x768.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ayup.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: That's not "topped out", that's "living hell".
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beat It 2x Anaristos Tech: the size of most videos
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: if you like being able to see the tv all the way out in your peripheral vision, super high res lets you do that...
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Hmmm I wonder if wife woudl veto a 49 inch monitor....
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: the angular viewable size of the pixels matters, but its so sensitive to distance that raw pixel count means less than it used to.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimum_HDTV_viewing_distance
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: has a pretty decent introduction to the interplay between resolution, screen size, and viewing distance.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Thanks will take a look
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: [ExpTracker] Installed:4,Dec. 4 2020 at 12:42:35 Totals[Kills:0, Exp:0, Avg:nan] BreakDown[Kill Exp:0, Bonus Exp:0, Rare Exp:0]
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: small preview of my next update haha
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: next update as in 2-5 minutes??? ;)
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: probably :P
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: pushing it right now
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Emrys Tech: good evening techies, so i updated my computer today and now when i try to use my hotkeys its not firing any macros, Anyone know why?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Emrys Tech: for example, i have shift+f12 macro'd, but it just tries to turn on/off airplane mode, instead of doing my mush macro
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: dont mind me, just coming to. My answer is "because technology" lol :)
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Emrys Tech: so, my numpad macros work, but none of my f1-f12
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: do you have any keyboard keys that turn function keys on/off?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: there is a setting to enable f1, f6 as well
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: what is the setting to turn F1 on?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: general options
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: file - global preferences - general
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: ok, I finished my pathfinding algorithm using cached rooms rather than database queries, it seems to be about 40x as fast
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: nice! thanks :)
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: there is a setting to disable alt key opening menu and f1-f6
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: but those settings wouldnt turn off after update so idk
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: where is that spicy fiendish when you need him >_>
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: yall better than *snicker Google :)
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: because google has gotten too big for its shoes and gotten lazy
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: anyway :P
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Emrys Tech: yeah, i dont see anything in settings, or a button that turns off my function keys, 
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Emrys Tech: this is lame
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: do you have something on all f keys? f12 f4 etc? shift alt ctr what ever
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Emrys Tech: not everything, but like, shift+f12 is buy 20 potion, keep potions, put potions bag,
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Emrys Tech: but after update its only doing that actual function of the keys
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Emrys Tech: not the client macros
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: they are still in your macros list tho, right?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Emrys Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: do the f keys work normally, alt-f4 for example
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Emrys Tech: no plans to test that one currently, thanks though
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: it was the only one i could think of. could pop up a browser and close it
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i dont remember default aardmush settings but im pretty sure both alt+ft-f6 are anabled by default
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: and those 2 options affect specific f keys not all of them
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Emrys Tech: i suppose i should try the first option and restart everything and see what happens. lol
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Emrys Tech: nope, restart did nothing,
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: its probably some windows crap then that disables or changes funtion key settings
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: reason why i still use win7 on a potato...
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: are on on laptop?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Emrys Tech: Yes. I use a laptop
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: i cant find anything in setting that would help...
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: windows + S then check mobility center
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Emrys Tech: What am I checking in the mobility center?
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: check if there is a fn/function row setting of any kind
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: its a swap setting for what they do, goes between volume etc to normal use
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Emrys Tech: So, theres nothing in there, but they do seemed to be locked into what the buttons have on them. Volume button etc.
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Emrys Tech: even if i hold down my FN key before pressing them they still do volume up down, etc
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: it varies from manufacturer to manufacturer but there is some way to change their function either a designated Fn key on keyboard or a setting
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: here it talks about some bios setting as well - https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/ciis59/shortcuts_on_function_keys_not_working/
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i rarely use laptops so im not too familiar with where what is for them
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Emrys Tech: Yeah. No idea. I'll post a note on tech tomorrow when I have more brain power i suppose. :)
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Emrys Tech: thanks for trying :)
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: id google your laptop manufacturer + change function key
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: different manufacturers put that switch in different places
T3/r7/2020-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: anyway gl :P
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what up suckers
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rosalee Tech: how do you disable split screen scrollback in the aardwolf client?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it's a plugin
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you can remove the plugin
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: which plugin is it? I accidentally disabled mine a while back and couldn't figure out how to get it back
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: splitscreen_scrollback is the name
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: aard_splitscreen_scrollback
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: cool, thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: Out of curiosity. How does one "Enable" that plugin in the first place?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: depends 
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: first, type 'checkversion'
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: r2017
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: probably good enough?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you can go to File->Plugins and then click Add
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: one day I'll probably make it better than that
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did I just hear "plugin manager"?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: who can say
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I use two plugin managers (pwar's and ruhamah's), and both are very convenient
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: It's just very nice to be able to toggle plugins in the command line without having to open a new miniwindow
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: cool story. some don't like managers with forced bloat plugins tho...
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: lol plugin managers
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You tickle Useful Hadar.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's one!
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: lol
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: hey hey, the next version of my plugin manager will be even better, im just struggling to get a few features working
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: including a way to add a url of a plugin you want to check and removing plugins you dont want to see ... at least that is the hope but im stuck working on my gold tracker right now
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: What's wrong with mob dbs, Fiendish?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IAC DO Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: guessing that taking automation out is preferable?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: People would still build databases.  Every range is going to have a high chance of selecting a specific set of mobs in that given area depending on the range.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: that's a weird assumption
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: it does so now :P
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: How is it a weird assumption?  It does that right now?  Every time in in a range and I select a cp for a given level I can guess with high accuracy the mob and the area.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: more mob x copies the higher the chance.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: aardingdon is a good example... you could end up with almost entire cp in that one area
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: anyway people here had speedwalk aliases long before runto was a thing, had databases and its not changing as long as there is benefit to having it.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: yeah S&D just leveled the playing field for those not tech savvy enough to make their own aliases and triggers.  S&D was happening long before S&D.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: the old mapper (maybe still does?) started blank and added rooms as you discover them. A mob database doing the same thing doesn't seem unreasonable but if people are starting out with stuff prepopulated, what is the point at all? What are they getting out of playing?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: mapper still works that way, doesn it?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I don't think S&D should be pre populated and it's doing a disservice giving that to any type of new player.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: S&D created a generation of players who dont really know the MUD who can't function without it.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it comes prepopulated with lowbie areas, but yeah
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: except for continent rooms and a few early areas, yes
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: there are ways to combat S&D if the will was strong enough, it isn't, we even added a helpfile for it.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I think S&D should be 100% blank, you build it yourself with areas/mobs/rooms etc.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: putting in the work to build your mapper and mob database is well worth it
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowgazer Tech: dont use the tech though if you cant handle it, right?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I agree mine was completely blank.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure that building a database is work
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowgazer Tech: im still leanring SnD but i appreciate so muhc regularly
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: i dunno, I'm old school, I used to sit wiht a piece of graph paper and MAP out MUD areas when I played. Even new Aardwolf areas when I used to check them myself on test port.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowgazer Tech: ive had it for less than half a year, and i am so grateful to have it and that is legal
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i remember when there was not even a built in map
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: fair enough fiendish, that's just built passively
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: playing your own mud kind of sucks at times, but so does playing someone elses.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Razor whines pathetically about everything.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: lets be real mobber or however that mobdb plugin is called has been around for a LONG time... this snd inbeded mob db isnt breaking any new grounds lol
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I still have some Excel files from older areas, which is where I made my "paper" maps
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: I've literally only ever played one mud
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowgazer Tech: which one?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Razor peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowgazer Tech: i was trying to be cute, mis:P
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I've only played 2 muds.  Pk mud and this one. lol
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: except for that one time I logged onto the original ROM and noticed "huh for being the basis for so many, you'd think there'd be more players on" and then literally everyone there was just mocking Aardwolf the whole time lol
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: all 10 people?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowgazer Tech: there isnt anywhere better than this one currently . its the truth
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Can of Pringle nods at CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowgazer Tech: the support, etc on her eis also insane. and cant be found elsewhere
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i played before aard on a part russian i think? it was still all english anyway mud, that was heavy into clans and how that part works. but like most muds if there isnt an endless... grind? it gets stale eventually
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: "better" is very subjective, if roleplaying is important to you, Aardwolf sucks.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: I mean, if roleyplaying is important to you, I think a good D&D discord group is going to outcompete any RP-focused MUD
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: if the kind of PK that gets your blood pressure up because there is a real loss / consequence of dying is important to you, ditto.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I roleplay being devloper. I just don't say "forsooth" or have sex with humanoid rabbits
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: forsooth?  lol
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL hides his face in his palm after seeing what IAC DO Fiendish did.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rexifelis remembers playing on several 'talkers' with rooms before going on to muds
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I was on a lot of talkers, and ran a couple talkers and a couple MUDs, but that was all before Aard was around
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I pretty much learned how to code by writing a mud from scratch in high school :P
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it wasn't pretty code, but it sure was plentiful!
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: nice!
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: i learned how to code while driving a semi truck because i dind't like being on the road for 28 days at a time.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: thats right, beat em with quantity lol
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: damn, it looks like resort still exists
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: my first foray online was 1996 at the local community college
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: writing a MUD is easy, running one ...
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in 96, I had an ISDN line to my house :-)
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: of course you did, even then I'm sure there were plenty of people needed correcting.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HoHoHooker Noegel Tech: 128kbps ftw
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You cackle gleefully.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HoHoHooker Noegel Tech: we got one on Randolph air force base when I was a kid. My family of 6 could all mud at once with no lag!
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: I remember when you'd get lag here
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I used a regular modem connected to the ISDN to avoid ISDN data charges, and had a shell script to switch over to true digital when I wanted more speed
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HoHoHooker Noegel Tech: hax!
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: got dialup internet in 98, got dsl on my street in 2004 and two years ago we got fiber.  100megabit 
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: i knew if i kept digging i would find the address:
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: The Asylum  shore3.intercom.net  204.183.208.13  port 4242
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: its gone though
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rexifelis moans and complains about all the good stuff lost online.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I was on asylum, resort, burbs, foothills, surfers, airplane?, batsomething, and the others I'd have to find old notes for...I had also set up accounts on my alpha for some talker codebase maintainers to help them with 64-bit and non-i386 development
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: really?  cool... i loved that, telnet was on every computer at the college and they all had internet access.  so even during class i would have it open in some form or fashion
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Re: convo from earlier - pwar's mob db is not prepopulated
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: you have to populate the database by going into the room and typing consider
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: you still have telnet in windows
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: yep, but this occured in 1997 and i worked as a computer lab monitor
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: did you have one of those fun degaussing buttons?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: oh man I had a 23" CRT with the most ridiculously satisfying degausss
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first computer I bought myself, bought a Mac Quadra 840 AV, and a Radius Intellicolor 20i monitor, with 5 BNC connectors
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I still have a 20" CRT monitor connected to my alphastation in the hallway outside my bedroom, although I haven't turned it on in a few years
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I have a CRT TV on my desk here that I use for console gaming :)
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they have degauss options, but iirc it's a menu option
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gets all wiggly for a couple seconds
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: we had a 21" black and white second monitor in 1993 attached to a quadra 950. It ran off a nubus card the size of a large dog
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those 950s were beasts...12 ram slots iirc
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: and big enough to take the kids to school in
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowgazer Tech: fiendish ...ur older than dirt!
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowgazer Tech: i repscet both of you though
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I put an ethernet card into my Mac SE ;-)
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what I started MUDding from
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I had ethernet in an LC 575
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: best computer ever made
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, the boxy all-in-ones
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: integrated CD rom
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they didn't sell many of those outside education
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: i started mudding on a 9600 kbps lol :)
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: 2400 baud
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: many of them were cross branded with "Performa"
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I was computer tech at an elementary school 96-2000, we had LC575, LC580, and in 98 we started replacing them with iMacs
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so there were Performa X and LC X
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's when Apple had deals with the stores to have slightly different model numbers in different stores, so they didn't directly comete
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: my mom was an authorized reseller for a while
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you could only get the "x hdd y ram" at Sears, and "a hdd and b ram" at Circuit City, etc.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: yep
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we got the SE for relatively cheap, as my dad's company were considered developers. They bought the original Macs, took them out of the cases, and used the guts with PLCs to be the brains of the industrial punch press machines they made
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: i remember those quadras
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: i remember those quadras... running one of those, you did not have to heat your office during wintertime
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IAC DO Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I don't even think it had a fan
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so my dad would bring home the Mac Plus on weekends in those carry bags that look like softside lunch boxes
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: could be wrong
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on the other end of the "no fan" spectrum, next to the Alpha is a Quicksilver G4 with the fan that sounds like a 747 taking off when you power it on (Apple's first foray into variable-speed fans iirc)
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Hi, I am using Crowleys Quest tracker, there is no reason it should reset stats right? Because I like it allot and will be sad if it does reset all rollover for some reason.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: of course... it was a long time ago, could have it confused with the pentium ii with a creative banshee video card
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, mentioning pentium reminds me of the Centris that was sold with the Intel card to be a dual-OS system
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: i took a box fan, made a neck-down tunnel to force all of the box fan's output into the case of the pc
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I am refering to this one. [Quest] Last Mob: [a snowshoe rabbit] in [West Face of the Mountain] in [Storm Mountain] Time: [0m 16s] Base Rewards: [22qp, 2662gold] Bonuses: [No bonuses]
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 650 I think
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I think we had an intel add-on card at one point in a powermac 6100...
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what am I thinking of...
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HoHoHooker Noegel Tech: someone smack the nostalgic fools and answer zzzzzs question
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: OrangePC?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: 386 20Mhz 4MB RAM. Those were the days!
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, orangePC was third party. Apple actually had the card, looks like it was C610
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: wasnt that a lot of ram for a 386? :) 
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: my 386 only had 2 mb ram.  but it ran wolfenstein 3d good enough
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: I upgraded. Tool something like 8 sticks to get 4MB
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have a Hyundai Neuron 425SLC laptop, 486 with 2MB RAM and 117MB hard drive
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: Biker, you still have that old monster?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yep
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the hyundai was very small, 16-shade grayscale screen
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: I wish I still had my first PC
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the Mac SE even still works. For a while I had it on a shelf in the kitchen to use hypercard stacks for recipes
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: my first pc cost $1,600.  now its not even worth using as a doorstop.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: lol
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: 1600 is so cheap
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: I could fit all the storage on my first couple of computers on one USB now a days
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: at the time i did not understand what the big yellow sticker on the back said.  "reconditioned" it said.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, you can also get a TB USB nowadays ;-)
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: god, the 950 was $7000 in 1992 for the base model, forget about after maxing RAM and storage
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Ouch!
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, anyone need a copy of Metrowerks CodeWarrior CDs?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HoHoHooker Noegel Tech: but it's future proof D:
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Anyone else have a Coleco(sp) Adam?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and now a cheap cellphone outperforms it
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I miss codewarrior :(
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a ti calculator outperforms it...
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: and you HAD to purchase components from Apple, right?  there werent any aftermarket parts, eh?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the casio terrorist watch probably outperforms it
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, code once many platforms was amazing
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, there's always been a pretty good aftermarket for Mac stuff
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other world computing and such
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: lol. I had ordered a brand new mini to crunch against covid with an eGPU, my future ex wife showed up thinking I would still give it to her. Said I pawned it lol :)
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: back then i mean.  in highschool they had a mac iise as a CAD machine controlling a pen plotter.  to upgrade it took apple components (1989).  upgrading it halved the time it took to do a blueprint
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, OWC has been in that business since back then
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hey, speaking of all this old stuff, I really should fire up one of my older machines and copy all that stuff to newer media...shame nobody ever made a decent/inexpensive SCSI-to-USB adapter
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: yep, magnetic media can hold onto information for only so long...
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: its hard to even find a laptop these days that has an internal DVD drive
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: i have one, just stopped using it a few months ago
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the Mac SE has an external Warp 9 Photon 40 40MB hard drive that still worked the last time I fired it up
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: How important is seq read write speeds on an ssd? is this PCIe gen 4 upgrade worth it?? 
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asfor Tech: because random reads are potential and frequent cache misses. but it's not so important as with spinning disks
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: another ancient thing I have that still works: https://imgur.com/a/ZutJfZq :-)
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: palm pilots were wonderful gadgets
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i have one somewhere... i think
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asfor Tech: cool, today it may present even a collectible value
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: i have some of the older greentone pilots, but my favorite was a tungesten t2, but it wont charge up any more
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: story of my life lol :) they were cool devices, used to play chess on the dam trolleys on my way home
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: i read a LOT of ebooks on them
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asfor Tech: mine first was a Windows CE iPAQ, and yeah, it was cool for reading
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: This is the Palm Pilot Professional, it just takes 2 AAA batteries, so put some in and it fired right up. I knew where the Palm was, I'll have to look around for the cradle (and see what the other end of it is, it might be a Mac DIN8 serial)
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I want to find a plugin that can track my aarch pieces. Specifically I want to know if my casino chip is one I've already turned in - I have a bunch of pamphlets but I don't have a quick way of tracking which ones are/aren't casino chip
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Any suggestions?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: there's one, i'll see if I have it bookmarked
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Thanks :)
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: https://pastebin.com/kEPWbGdv --> Alison, Endymion's Aarch tracker.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: That's it. Going to bookmark it on my laptop now to, thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, it expires in an hour. I suppose I can change it to never expire, then.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There, changed it.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Now you can safely bookmark it. :P
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: Oh didn't know it expired, thanks :)
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: My default is to have it expire after an hour. Sometimes I forget to change it, though. :p
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: anyone have any strong opinions on a combo modem/wifi router with a 5GHz band?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: comcast apparently charges $15/mo for their thing
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: for some reason my status bar is in the middle of my screen, using mushclient
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, drag it and move it elsewhere?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Is there a GMCP way to setup a double trigger?  I missed this aard trigger cause i was in another window =(
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: no BUT it also goes to discord
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: turn on sounds?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Sounds only work... if they are triggered
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Add it to your prompt and trigger on that :)
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Stormwind: You need my Telegram plugin.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, wait, but these doubles aren't usually uniform triggers.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: oh I get what you're saying. sorry
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: yeah this double just happened no text from what i saw
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: which is why i was wondering if it sends anything GMCP that can be triggered off of
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you really want to, you can set a timer every minute to send "Double" and trigger off that.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: bleh so prompt or timer.  sad panda
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Or prompt
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Giddorah, a minute late.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Wouldn't it be 30 seconds late?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: We're both men. You know we exaggerate 30 seconds.
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Haha, touché :)
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: weird.  my cp check command doesn't seem to be working
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: probably a plugin hiding the output
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient and Lua questions answered here
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If I put Lua on my resume, am I outing myself as a dirty scripter?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: probably
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but it worked for me
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah that was follow up
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you ever want to program in brazil?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I prefer Python
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: will lua help me get a date?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it could
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: os.date()
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I think a lot of the date functions come from Os?
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you could make a lua script that swipes tinder automatically
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: if your calledar is set properly... sure
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Contigo Tech: or grindr
T3/r7/2020-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: ....only fiendish got it.  Nerds.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: anyone have any recommendations for a combo cable modem/wifi router?
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: ive got something strange.  i have a bag, with potions inside.  the bag does not show up in my inventory, but i can look inside it.  i cannot get anythig from inside though.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Is the bag invis maybe?
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: im a ninja so can see invis/hidden objects
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: would logging out and back in fix?
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Oh I bet I know
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Are you holding it?
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPromptu Broud Tech: you're wearing it. type eq
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: ha.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: oh duh.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: sorry, thanks for helping
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: I somehow cut my main mini window in half and can't  resize it any bigger.... 
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Which miniwindow, and why can't you resize it?
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: the main one.. the one where most all of the output takes place.. and I can shrink it just to increase it's size past a certain limit... I hit something up near game > config... not sure what.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: can try aard layout reset
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, in the future, do aard layout save so you just have to restore where your windows were at before.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pestallel Tech: oh i did the thing that Crowley said and oh i don't like that... oofah
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: O goodness! now nothing will go below that limit...
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pestallel Tech: lol
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley boggles at Braun.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Maybe the splitscreen thing? I'm not a visual person so I'm just guessing.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: under window I selected aardwolf 1... that seems to fix the problem for me...
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I want to create an alias that casts a spell, then outputs some text - what command would I use to just output text? Using MUSHclient
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: a few ways. you could use "echo"
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Note("text"), print("text"), ColourNote("white", "blue", "text")...
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: you could use Note() or ColourNote()
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Can use "echo", too.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Great! Thanks for the options! :)
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you can also make an alias that outputs text locally, by using SendTo: Output
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Ooh, nice!
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: then in your alias that casts the spell, have it cast the spell and use that alias
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: make sure it's set to "Execute" rather than "Send"
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: you can also write a program that make a file and put the text into the file, then another script picks that up build an SMS message and texts you.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: "Send" just sends the input to the server, "Execute" runs the commands through your aliases first
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Stormwind - whoa!
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: just wanted to make sure you had all the option available. ;)
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Sath, that last explanation helps a lot - thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Heh, Stormwind wants to complicate things. Just trigger them for my Telegram plugin. ;)
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: fess up. who are the 8 zmud users
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Can't, they're all botting.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: fine! will the 6 cmud users please stand up :P
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Can't, they're all botting.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I think Zmud is better than mush personally, but more plugins written for aard exist. =\
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Cmud rather
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I still use zmud :P
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: CMUD is archaic and isn't supported. :p
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I've never used zmud, but know it was all the rage back in the day. What are some good features?
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I'd use Cmud in a heart beat ifit had the plugins mush has.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: it runs on an xp virtual machine
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I wouldn't with all the corruption.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I can't count how many corrupted packages I'd get with CMUD.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: ZMUD had this great feature where it'd crash periodically. I loved it.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And how I'd lose progress on work.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Areia.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It was like playing dice... if you roll the right combo, it crashed.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: it's ok a lot of plugins come with that feature too =p
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: use fewer plug ins
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: type more
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: lose more gqs
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: get carple tunnel
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Except you don't lose data that you've saved, because it doesn't corrupt your info.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: aardclient with mapper > other clients imo
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DirtyBubble Tech: I liked GMUD
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: carpal* tunnel
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: what does mudrammer (ios app) show up as on client command?
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Just lol if you're not just using plain telnet, you cheaters - DjV, 2020
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: my wrists think I'm a winner though.. and that's all that matters...
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DirtyBubble Tech: there seems to be some beef with automation/macros/triggers
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: more of a chicken thing
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: No beef, there is just DjVoltron.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I called him out on something akin to that before. He claimed that anyone who got to t9 in a year must be a bot. So, I did the math based on his redos. T9 back then was something like 95m exp. The total of his redos that year was well over 95m... so, was he calling himself a bot?
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: ehh, you get exp a lot faster at t9
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Well, there's your problem. Using logic...
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: To just hit T9R7? Roll a blacksmith, get some enchanted sets, go to town. I mean, you'll be the worst T9R7 ever, but you'll be there.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DirtyBubble Tech: I am all for smacking botters, but this isn't really a competitive mud
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DirtyBubble Tech: by that I mean mandatory open pvp like some of the old school muds.  There isn't really any reason for someone to get angsty for leveling up faster
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Still using logic...
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: Proven bots are removed. There is a high bar to proving it because who wants to nuke someone then be wrong, but it has happened with plenty of high profile / high level characters.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Battle] Scars nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: Outside of that, some people feel that we tolerate more automation than we should and rather than find a MUD with policies more to their liking would rather just bitch about it endlessly.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DirtyBubble Tech: there are still quite a few out there, but none like this
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: people??  lets just blame DjVoltron solo on that one. =p  *inno
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nah, it's not just him, though.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: really there are others like him?
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: There's no objective or natural rule when it comes to automating a game. So the only thing to go by are the rules of the MUD and what the MUD has collectively agreed, with Lasher's confirmation, to as the limits.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Razor didn't name anyone.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: S&D in particularly has been so "widely discussed" there is a helpfile for it.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So have gqbots!
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Regardless of whether it's botting/automation or something else, some people will always find something to complain about. I don't think anyone is saying they have to be happy about the way things are, but they shouldn't take their personal vendetta out on the MUD and become a nuisance for everyone else.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Intuition Tech: can't please everyone. restrict more automation, others will complain. everyone likes and dislikes stuff and they are often conflicting. 
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fact is, the underlying complaint is, "That person is faster than I am, and I'm pretty fast, so they must be botting!" But it doesn't hold water.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: its like a bitch-about-it bingo card
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: I don't particularly love S&D because it discourages the original reason campaigns were added (exploration), but it's either change game mechanics to crush it and watch everyone switch to mob DBs instead, or worry about things I can influence.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: nor did dune, that's why hetook the area out
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft ducks, anticipating (Aleister) Crowley's reaction.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: dune is still there
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: just by a different name
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley smirks at Iron Duck Chuft's saying.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I still miss Chuft's special keyword you could use to send him tells...
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DirtyBubble Tech: I don't prescribe to the whole slippery slope argument either way.  There are a lot of worse case scenarios both ways.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: I was going to comment on that but I got shut up by qreset
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Well played
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DirtyBubble Tech: has there been any attempt to monetize the game (rl cash for qps, for instance)?
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: People donate for qp/tp/gold.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: For others, that is.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Check help donate
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DirtyBubble Tech: aside from donations, I mean
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Probably, though people keep it secret. Pretty sure a few characters have been sold here, too.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: No, it's not like the Iron Ralms MUDs 
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: Sorry, I meant officially, as Crowley noted there are def trades for donations for gear on public boards
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: someone emailed me years ago to buy mine
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: well the donations *IS* "cash for qp". They're purchases, helpfile even says so.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: so let's not pretend to be something we're not (or vice versa)
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley stops pretending to be a nice guy!
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: woah
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: that was pretending?
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: speaking of bot.. i mean scriptes.  lets see how this hardcore remort goes *inno
T3/r7/2020-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Not gonna go well now I bet. :P
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: are there any resources out there for helping with aardwords?
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any Internet anagram tool would help with it
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: I look up one of those scrabble cheater websites
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: there's one where you can plug in like 30 letters at a time
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: hm, good idea
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cavalera Tech: what is the command to lock/unlock resizing windows in mushclient please?  UI is all over the place for some reason and I cannot recall the unlock command
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: check out aard layout help
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: all those options are seen with mapper help
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cavalera Tech: aard layout is gonna get me there, thanks Crowley
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not those options, Shindo.
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can find more helps under 'aard help'
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah, i know, my brain is on holiday
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pestallel Tech: Why is it that I read tech at times when you're discussing stuff I didn't know about, then I get stuck during combat trying new themes?
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers with Pestallel about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pestallel settles on Green Neon, and didn't die.
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: is there a guide to writing plugins? I know I could write one but it would be nice to know where to begin.
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: there is yes.
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Pester Fiendish.
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: j/k I don't know of anything besides the forums.
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: there's a lot of good documentation out there for what the different functions do and what's available
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: Poor Fiendish gets enough pestering, what the guy needs is a raise.
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And Braun's not talking about the raise in his pants!
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: or here: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/functions.htm
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Braun shakes his head.
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: Like any piece of software/scripting having a clear goal/requirement list is a good place to start :)
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: I know what I want and i can write it using the in game aliases/triggers/vars but I'd like to try my hand at actually making one for open market.
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: I mean in client*
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: In that case, if you compare some existing plugins and look at those tutorials, it should be pretty straightforward :) 
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: is there a miniwin plugin to show quest and campaign status and timers? like, not targets, just "you can now take a quest" "you must level to campaign" etc
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: SnD has a circle color indicator but thats it
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mousie Tech: on SnD it would be really nice to see "gq prog" without having to type it!!
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: yeah I'm still waiting on crowley adding the mob database before switching to his version
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: anyone know of a quick guide to change someone's name in Active Directory/Exchange but keep the old e-mail address going to the new e-mail address automatically?
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: got a couple random guides from google but don't want to break anything
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pestallel Tech: you want to keep the old address and put in a new one?
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pestallel Tech: i think you can do that in powershell with smtpprimaryaddress or something.
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: would make life easier for the user to keep receiving e-mails from the old address
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pestallel thinks ... he's not sure
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DirtyBubble Tech: my wife grows tired of my hammering up and enter to cast a spell multiple times.  Is there a quieter way to do it?
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Yes. Use an alias.
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: A couple fireworks could knock out her hearing...
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you can also set mushclient to leave whatever command you've just typed in the box and highlight it
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: removing one of those keypresses
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DirtyBubble Tech: I'll check that out
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: shift up control c enter
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: For example, you could alias "h" to cast nerve shock thrice
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Then you can just type kill mob, then press h and let the alias do the work
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: read help stacked commands for legality of doing so, what I just described is legal but moving around with stacks is not
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: moving around and killing*
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Also, if you're willing to take a bit of time to write a short script, you could make your attack skill aliases detect what level you are and cast the appropriate attack, thus saving you from having to manually switch
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DirtyBubble Tech: thanks for the advice
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions something something
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: is there a way in mapper to change the color of the room im in? the pink is hard to see in a pk room area
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: not permanently. there used to be ways to customize the colors but I removed them. I don't remember why
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: one day I'll add them back in
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: color bleed?
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i bet you can change that color to something else in the base client. of course, then _all_ the pink would be something else...
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: one could always edit the plugin
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: editing it is my next plan, was just hoping i missed a command
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: my christmas present is in the mail
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/cty/pdp/spd/xps-8940-desktop/xd8940se07s
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: i9
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: we'll get right on that
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: Is that powerful enough to run aard?
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: I got the gtx 2070 super
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Heh, to run Aard, you could run it off a Windows 3.1 computer.
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: ya diablo 3 can be set to 3000 x 2000
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: imagine the fps on the screen of type
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: 60 hrtz
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: and it v sync
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: how much is 2070 super compared to a 3070 or 3080?
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: on here it says 2070 super is add $50
T3/r7/2020-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: 2070 super is the same price as 3070 at nvidia so.. don't do that
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: with Dinv grepping invmon data, am I still able to write triggers to read invmon data?
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Yeah.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: am I able to see this data so I know what it looks like also while using dinv?
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: help Invmon shows it, or you could make a quick trigger to capture any line starting with {invmon} and just print it back out if you need to see it like that.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Or temporarily disable dinv of course.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: thats actualy a good way to echo it without fiddling with dinv itself
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia starts to sing 'Bots don't cry.....'
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Oops mis :P
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL hunches his shoulders, wrinkles his face, and squints at Areia.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: ahh thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia goes: "No Problem!"
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Investigating this morning: https://linux.oracle.com/switch/centos/
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Stoopid Redhat and their CentOS changes.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: they just want your $$$. IBM is almost as bad as Oracle.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: which I wrote before clicking that link. :o
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: I'm a little surprised at Oracle's business model on this one.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Been running CentOS where I work for several years with no support concerns, but long-term support is necessary.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: okay so my question is: how long will this be a thing until they have everyone and then they're like haha bitches thanks for switching we're now going to charge.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: The whole CentOS Stream thing doesn't fit that model at all.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Well, at that point I'll do the next step (that I would rather avoid at this point) and flip over to Debian LTS.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 404 Eroe nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: assuming they're honest about this, it's really cool. Also you get ZFS/DTrace/etc.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: It's been around a while... and really they're just rebadging RedHat's work, so it's probably easy money for them.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 404 Eroe nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: You want support on your free distro? We gotcha covered!
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: this FAQ throws so much shade at Redhat, I love it.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Yeah, that's much better than the more formal PDF FAQ I found first :P
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: but they do make a good point, you can just buy your contract and let it lapse without having to have a specific distro for support and then keep paying for it.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: oh versus Adobe making me get their whole creative suite subscription just for one piece of software? :)
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Robbo sobs in misery.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Speaking of Adobe... I got a request to update Adobe Flash today... despite support ending for it this month...
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No no no, Software as a service has nothing to do with generating regular, reoccuring profit for the the companies.  It's just about the customers!
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I had a PHP for Flash book still on my amazon wishlist.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Man, you are old.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I may have joined Amazon when it was just books.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And DVDs
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Should have bought stock then.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: https://www.amazon.ca/HTML-Unleashed-2nd-Rick-Darnell/dp/0672313472
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: yup :) i even found my old geocities page on archive or whatever that site is called. cant find it anymore of course lol
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: I wonder how much of the UEK is oracle and how much of it is them just rebranding the linux kernel releases into a pretty document.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Drats I wiped out my temp and downloads folder and apparently I had plugins installed from the downloads location.. anyway to retreive the list of missing plugins?
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: how many plugins did you have installed? When I wiped my hard drive and decided to start playing again I just went by feel. When I realized what was missing I just installed it again.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: it was only about 4, I replaced dinv, I know I'm missing the winkle spellup one but I think it listed 2 others I don't remember.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: nevermind found the spellup one.  now to figure out what else I was missing.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can open up the .mcl file to find out which plugins were initially installed.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Trying to find that file.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's the .mcl file under worlds, the one that is loaded when you start MUSH.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: it isn't showing the missing ones, I had closed aard and reopened it hoping to get the messages again but I did not.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley comforts A Calm Stormwind.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I got the important ones, dinv and spellup.  I'm sure the other ones will come in time.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's why I always extract them to a different folder. :p
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Yeah, lesson learned.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: oh maybe I didn't shift-delete and they are in the recycle bin.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: ...
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Noel Noel Noegel sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: YouTube is taking after Netflix now... Been playing Peppa Pig on YouTube since kids are home on quarantine since their teacher tested positive. It just asked me to confirm if we were still watching...
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pestallel Tech: It's actually been doing that for a while. Their mantra is: "If you're going to play that many videos, get a premium membership."
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: makes sense, don't want to spend bandwith if no ones watching
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Noel Noel Noegel is agreeing with that PenguinGod Galoth person again...
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Never realized that, since I don't do autoplay. It's on autoplay for the kids so I can work in peace, though.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noel Noel Noegel Tech: that feature saves millions a year, it's literally not an intrusive feature
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: i bet someone has made a auto resume extension
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pestallel Tech: I noticed it after keeping some no-vocal-edm-chillstep-zone-out-while-you-work playlists going
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: I got an "are you still watching" on Hulu last week after letting a show play for like 6 hours
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Working on a skinning manager for crafter.  With invdata or invitem or invdetails is there a way to tell the item is a skin other than the rot-death timer?  Anyway to check keywords?  Also what does animated mean?
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: {invitem}2396594606,M,a pair of leggings skinned from a cooking kobold,91,7,1,-1,1200l
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: is string.find(s, " skinned from ") not good enough?
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I could do a match, was hoping to check keywords if possible just because matching on a string is only the best choice when its the only option. =\
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: the only way I know of to find keywords is identify
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: any idea what animated means in invdetails?
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: {invheader}2396594606|91|Armor|100|10|legs|unique, magic, melt-drop, v3, animated, staticchecked|||17 minutes and 41 seconds|5|||20
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: does it have to do with animate object?
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: could be, but since this is a skin was curious.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kahraman Tech: hello
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kahraman Tech: i get Line   69: Attribute name 'data-pjax-transient' not followed by '=' (Cannot load) -error with crowleys s^d plugin
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kahraman Tech: any idea for solution?
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: have you tried turning it off and then back on again? (reinstall).
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's because you right-clicked and choose 'save as'. You need to select the green Code button and download zip and extract it.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kahraman Tech: thanks 
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kahraman Tech: thanks Crowley
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kahraman Tech: its a great plugin
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley smiles happily.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kahraman Tech: off
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: How do I send a command but hide the text and response from hitting the command window?
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: SendNoEcho
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: and you'll need trigger(s) with "Omit from Output" to hide the response
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: ahh thanks I'll look up that one.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kahraman Tech: quit
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kahraman Tech: of
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Allgorath Tech: For my DISARMS trigger, if I type 'echo DISARMS', it doesn't work. I have to type 'echo <some text> DISARMS'. Weird. Anybody know why this is? Thanks in advance!
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Do you have a "*" before DISARMS?
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Allgorath Tech: No. My regex is '<backlash>w DISARMS'. I have the regex box checked, and the ignore case box checked.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: that regex shouldn't go off for the text "DISARMS", the regex requires something before DISARMS
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: the "\w " means at least one letter followed by a space, so when "echo DISARMS" just echoes "DISARMS", it won't match
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Allgorath Tech: Ohhhh, gotcha! Thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: Is there supposed to be a zip.lua in the lua/ folder? Trying to help someone install my plugins, but they're getting a missing module error 'zip' when trying to do "require 'zip'" in the code, but somehow it's always worked for me, and I'm not sure what's missing.
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I'm using Mushclient and trying to use the function doafter. The documentation shows the Lua example: DoAfter (10,"eat food")
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: if I make an alias with that command, I send it to script, right?
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: is there a way to put a hyperlink inside a note or should I be using another method?
T3/r7/2020-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: there was a auto practics plugin out there you typed prs and it praced important things.. I lost it anyone know where I can get it?
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: how to do when i type dinv priority show that priority table is empty
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i didnt get what you asked, but there is no show argument for priority. dinv help priority
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: when i type dinv priority list,the result is that  Priority table is empty
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: there should be a few default priorities
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: you could reinstall dinv and copy your inventory database over if you wanted default priorities back.
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: actually im not sure where priorities are saved, if they are saved with inventory data then that would be pointless... ehh idk
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: best bet would be to catch durel and ask
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL pokes Durel in the ribs.
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: just send him a tell he'll know best
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I like dinv refresh all over dinf refresh, the latter is not complete/correct.
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kahraman Tech: how to get rid of error 'Trigger function "xcp_index_line_end" not found or had a previous error.`
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: i found reloading the plugin to be the easiest solution
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kahraman Tech: yes, i have to do each time i kill a mob
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: restart mush?
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Escaped FireScape Tech: hey, so Im using tinyfugue (tf), and i have an issue with the packaged version disconnecting me when i look in bags, compiling it from source works, but then compression doesnt work, any ideas ?
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ive had quite a bit of success using a separate mccp utility.
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Escaped FireScape Tech: well tf supports mccp, im just confused why it doesnt work when compiling, thus i asked here if anyone else had that issue and perhaps a solution not involving installing external utilities
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: alas, i have not.  however, there is probably a compiler or source option to enable compression... perhaps there is a readme in there?
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: also, the repository you got your source from might have a faq or forum.
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Escaped FireScape Tech: obviously i read the docs and compiler options or i wouldnt resort to ask in here
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Check the configure output to be sure it found libz.
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: heh, that puts you in the top percentile.  i usually ask on channels when the answer is just an alt-tab away :p
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: my favorite hobby is opening new browser tabs and then forgetting to read them
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i figure tabs >> bookmarks.
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: i am also an avid fan of collecting brower tabs
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ahh, but how many of them do you use on a regular basis?
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: probably like 4 / 50+ :P
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: Vivaldi's tab management is pretty intuitive. Even my phone gives me messages "cant have more than 99 tabs open at a time, 1 was closed." i dunno which one lol :)
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: actually in the market for a new windows browser, chrome is just terrible these days
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: if anyone has suggestions
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: slacker.  i do the rounds on mine twice a week.  not sure how many tho, since my screen is only so wide :p
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: vivaldi
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: checking it out now, thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: firefox.  much saner pinned-tab management.
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: i just need something thats not going to make my laptop a fire hazard
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: its called 'a desktop'.
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: i travel a lot :)
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: thats good.  odds are you will be far away from your desktop when it catches fire.
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: favorite power move is getting on a NY->SF flight carrying only a laptop and nothing else
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus laffs at Mannec.
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I've had zero overheating issues with my Tandy 102 Portable Computer
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: you might be surprised how much software development you can do on a ti graphing calculator.
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: sounds like a good way to get picked up by dea, q. but yes, big power move.
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: mannec can you help me decide on a new laptop configuration? I need to travel light.
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus laffs.
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: fraid not.  i hate laptops.  always have.
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Xyzzy Tech: you can set up Firefox to only keep the tab in view active...
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: you can set up firefox to prevent you from navigating away from pinned tabs - its a huge time-saver at work where noone understands why they keep losing their pages...
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I keep seeing this spammed in my client.  Noexp is currently enabled. Threshold is set to 0 exp.  Anyone had experinece with this?  I am using Pwar's version.
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Eww laptops.   msc
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Oops. Mis type
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: nah, you had it right :p
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Haha, I wanted to say that earlier on the laptop topic, but got distracted, and just now it was saved in Mush prompt memory while I accidently pressed it 8)
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: pwar's version of...what
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: S&D
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: was one of the bugs that made me switch.
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddly Adarax Tech: so mapper is trying to take me through masaki clan area to get to the chessboard, but the path deadends. Anyone have any idea what the problem is? 
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: masaki moved.
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: probably an exit was changed
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: go to masaki's areas and forget it.
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: it's nu from recall now
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddly Adarax Tech: ah! Thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: how are these virtual concerts pulled off live!? 
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: how do i add portal to mapper again
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: do i need to be in the room it lands on
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: "mapper portal commandstring" will tie the portal to whatever room you're standing in.
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: thx
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: mapper fullportal will let you specify the destination room and portal level right on the command line.
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: If I back up the entire Aardclient folder inc the World, will that also be all the stuff known to my mapper?
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: yeah I just backup the whole mush folder
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: thx. Aard is literally one of the only things on my local machine and not in the cloud.
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: the mapper is the aardworld.db file or something like that though. It's small enough I just back the whole folder up to be safew
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnN0yiNg Eadric Tech: i'm just playing aard off my dropbox :P
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Its a trap.
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Allgorath Tech: Whenever I consider a mob, I get a message like 'A fuzzy caterpillar (+8 to +16)' instead of something like 'You had better run away from a fuzzy caterpillar.' I don't know what those numbers mean, and I don't know how to get back to the normal messages. I'm not sure what I did to make that start happening. The last thing I remember installing was Pwar's S&D. Would that be going it?
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: pwar's snd changes the text consider to number based consider
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Percivale Tech: The number means about how many levels above/below you the mob is
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: For example, type "help consider", you'll see a range of text messages and the relative mob levels. For instance "snickers nervously" means the mob is +2 to +4 levels above you.
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: If you have pwar's snd installed, instead of seeing "a goblin snickers nervously", you'll see "goblin (+2-+4)"
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Allgorath Tech: Ah, I see. Thanks for the help guys! I'm sure I'll get used to it. It'll be the new normal!
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: When you MUD so much that when you try to unlock your work computer, you use Ctrl+Shift+P (Plugin access for MUSH) rather than Ctrl+Alt+Del...
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: is there a MUSH repository with older builds of fiendish's files?
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Probably not.
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Why would you want older versions anyway?
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i may overwritten one of the Lua files with a newer version, creating issues
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That doesn't make sense.
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, are you saying you took a newer version Lua file and copied it over to an older version of AardMUSH?
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Why not just update to the newest version, then?
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I have this: SetVariable ("ntcount", tonumber (GetVariable ("ntcount")) + 1)
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: ntcount currently = 1, but it doesn't add. Any suggestions?
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: When you setit isn't it being set to 0?
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: good point, I manually set it to 1, but 0 would be better
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: remove the +1 and run the code i bet it returns as 0.
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I want the code to add 1 to the current value
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: SetVariable ("levelvar", tostring(tonumber(GetVariable("leveldiff")) + %1 + 1)) is what i have for 1 that works, i think you have to have tostring in there
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: why does the %1 have to be in there?
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: it pulls the level number from me leveling up
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: so should: SetVariable ("ntcount", tostring(tonumber(GetVariable("ntcount")) + 1))
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: add 1 to the value of ntcount when triggered?
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: your adding 1 to a string?
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I'm trying to add 1 to a variale every time it is triggered
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it looks like it'll work if the variable is defined and contains a number
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: It's not working, but I'm not sure why. The variable currently = 0.
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: does it display an error?
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: No, no error.
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: where do you have it sending to?
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: sending to script
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: are you sure the code is running? Add a Note("test") or something after it
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: Send ("echo test")
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: still nothing
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: then your problem is the trigger or alias or whatever
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: isn't matching
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Ok, I'll double check, thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: SetVariable ("math", tostring(tonumber(GetVariable("math")) + 1))
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: that one works
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I'l try that
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You don't need to tostring it.
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I don't think the problem is the code, that's basically the same code
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Are you doing it off a trigger?
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: working now, I didn't have the trigger right
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sath :)
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly at Torsin.
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: sending to script with expand variables on
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: interesting that you needed expand variables. I thought the sign of using expanded variables was when people referenced them with @variablename
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: take everything i say with a grain of salt. i don't know how to code, i just work at stuff until it works
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Test of Faith isn't picked up by winkle's spellup.  Anyone else experience that?
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Linkdead} Garamis Tech: something wierd happening with my mapper.  typing xrt stone (to go to fabled stone area) but it uses portal to tirna then goes w3nd and ends up stuck in tirna maze...not sure why its doing it or how to stop it.  tried doing xset mark in stone but that's not working
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: is it almost correct? would that portal save you some walking, if it were properly used?
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Linkdead} Garamis Tech: i dont think it's almost correct
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: welp - im out of ideas.
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Linkdead} Garamis Tech: portal to tirna is just a maze where you portal into 
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: try deleting the portal from mappers database and re adding it.  Do you know how to do that?
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Linkdead} Garamis Tech: yeah ok i'll delete the portal
T3/r7/2020-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: anyone have something that parses identify output? I know dinv does, but I'm not cool enough to step through how all of that works.
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Is there a way to compare mapper portals vs the portals in my inventory to possibly get a list of ones i have not used yet?
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: don't think so, I don't think mapper tracks portal usage.
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rosalee Tech: does the android aardwolf client still work?
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrecking Havvoc Tech: blowtorch ?
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rosalee Tech: the aardwolf version http://www.aardwolf.com/play/android-mud.htm
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rosalee Tech: someone said it stopped working in 2018
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You should finger Shindo for Blowtorch-related stuff. It hasn't stopped working.
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noel Noel Noegel Tech: aardwolf blowtorch client was removed from the play store but the regular client is there still
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noel Noel Noegel Tech: you'll just need to do what Crowley suggested and get your plugins from shindo
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rosalee Tech: blowtorch is still present in the play store and the aardwolf customized version was always and still is a standalone apk
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: any way to tell mapper that you can use "home" the same as "recall" to get to the manor instead?
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I guess set up a portal with command 'home'
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: go to manor, mapper portal home, set level to 1/0, mapper portalrecall <home portal number>
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: so if it ends up being say number 5 in the portals list, you'd do mapper portalrecall 5
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: since I cant make or heads of what NuFHE is, I just assume its something I want to use lol :) Easier softer decision making in action!
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient and Lua questions answered here
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drulvan Tech: been wanting to learn Lua, but can't get past the i dont know what the heck im doing phase (only exp i have is scriptsing with powershell)
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: We all start from that spot.
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: do you have any experience with any other programming languages?
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: besdies powershell
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: powershell is _extremely_ weird
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: I was suggested GO! language as a good starting point. yes but Im disabled, doing my best yall :)
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: The programming I do in Lua I learned from python...
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Python is an excellent language but hard to integrate with MUSHclient
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: Yeah, that's why I gave up and took up lua :P
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the best resource I've found for learning Lua from scratch is... (plz wait while I find the links)
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drulvan Tech: oh wow, sorry didn't realize i sent that
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sent... what?
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drulvan Tech: my question about learning lua :)
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: did you not want help?
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I can not post links if you don't want them
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drulvan Tech: yea, i just got distracted and didn't relize i hit enter over here, i came back and saw you responding
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: post links pls
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: part 1: https://web.archive.org/web/20110304221222/http://www.phailed.me/2011/02/learn-lua-the-hard-way-1/
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: Well I dont want the hard way to learn it, I prefer simplicity :) even that URL is intimidating! lol
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: part 2: https://web.archive.org/web/20181111123148/http://www.phailed.me/2011/02/learn-lua-the-hard-way-tables/
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: "learn X the hard way" is a meme in programming learning
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: part 3: https://web.archive.org/web/20190208214431/http://www.phailed.me/2012/05/problem-solving-with-lua/
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: "the hard way" is just a meme in tech circles because so many resources about doing the easy way are terrible
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: not sure about some of the embedded images though
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I don't remember there being a giant butt in that last link
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hold on while I dig through archive
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: learning as never been more fun!
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drulvan Tech: thanks for the info!
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ok....use this part 3 link instead: https://web.archive.org/web/20140829023833/http://www.phailed.me/2012/05/problem-solving-with-lua/
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I guess this is a problem of dead links
T3/r7/2020-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mousie Tech: - what's the best plugin to see when the 3 moons are
T3/r7/2020-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: why do i do this to myself ...
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Question about ctrl-f in MUSHclient... is there a way to continue searching, or can you only find the first instance of your input?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: ctrl-shift-f (find again)?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mousie Tech: i'm getting a message - Goto room result (go):  Can't do that now - you must be standing and ready. on SnD. Anyone else get this? I'm standing not sure why it's giving me this.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: try sitting and standing back up
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mousie Tech: didn't work - also on the SnD interface gui thing - I can't click on the 1-11 campaign mobs for some reason too.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: your client could be bugged
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: exit it, close it and start it up again
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mousie Tech: ahh closing my client and reopening worked ty
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: yer welcome
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: it is what i do, troubleshoot pc, mac, networks, printers... blah blah blah
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient and Lua questions answered here for a bit
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: hrmmm had something for you earlier ... but i forgot because it was too long ago now
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So strange. Something must be corrupted, because when I request a quest, I get double the text (meaning I get the entire mobsay from quester twice) in the main window. Same thing happens when a quest becomes ready, and when a target is killed, but strangely not on quest complete. So very odd.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corran Tech: Anyone familiar with the zip.lua file?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Allgorath Tech: Hey guys, I don't think 'spamreduce all' is doing anything for me (or I'm misunderstanding how it works). When I do a 'spamreduce all', I can't tell a bit of difference. I did it yesterday, and I've been playing a lot since then, and I can't tell that I've done anything. For example, a little while ago I saw a hunger/thirst message, and I thought those were supposed to go away. Any idea what I might be doing wrong?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Type 'spamreduce' and see what the statuses are for each?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Allgorath Tech: The all say status 'Yes'.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But you saw the hunger message?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Allgorath Tech: Yep. Is there any way that we can do a quick test to see if the flags are working?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Maybe it was a fluke, or maybe you thought you saw it, or maybe it was something else completely different. If you see the message again (or any of the messages that should be hidden by spamreduce), then it could be a bug.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I've never seen the hunger/thirst message with spamreduce on it, and it does make a huge difference.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Allgorath Tech: Am I supposed to see the messages when other people run a spellup on me?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: When it's on you, yes. When it's on them, no.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Allgorath Tech: Oh, OK. Gotcha on that one. I will look for the hunger message again. Thanks for your help!
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Allgorath Tech: Well, the SHOWDESC and MOBSTATUS settings are working with spamreduce. Maybe I hadn't ran it and only thought I did. Maybe that's why I saw the hunger messages. (shrug)
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: anyone Is search & destroy ok to use? If so, just download from github & go?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Yep it's fine to use if downloaded from a safe source.  Crowley, Pwar etc.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: So check with one of them rather than from github?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: finger Crowley should take you to Github, or finger Pwar.  Pwar doens't really play any more and Crowley keeps his version up to date.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can read more about it under 'help snd'
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Ok, will do. I didn't know there was a help about it.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's relatively new.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As in 2 months ago. :p
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Crowley, if I decide to go ahead with it use the github version or is there a more recommended version
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, the first sentence in help snd should answer that one. :p
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Ah, I see there's a link in the help file.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: is there a limited, pre-order only edition with unique skins?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: is the github versiobn the same as the version you can get through pwars plugin manager?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torsin bows humbly before Crowley.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No, Solitos.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Nope they are different.  Tho Pwar's has some... bugs.  And they won't be fixed.  Your best bet is to use Crowleys.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: hrm, i'm using pwars then should i change?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yes i notice it does different thingssometime...i guess those are ugs
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: If you use PWar's I'd wait until Crowley had the mob database working in his version.  if you've never used any SnD before.  pick Crowleys.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: oh the mob database in crowleys doesn't wor yet, my database it relatively new i only starting using it a few weeks ago but i like the database
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I'm a bit of a newb on installing plugins. I put snd in the plugin folder, do I have to import the .md files as well?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: All installing a plugin requires is the .xml file.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Ok, thanks! :) I'm going to give it a try.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions something something
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I have this super weird problem that just started up (after I was troubleshooting another plugin). Somehow, whenever quest info pops up (excepting quest complete), I get double the output. For instance, I'll get two lines of: QUEST: You may now quest again. (or whatever the line is), and two full paragraphs of the mobsay on quest request. Makes me wonder what got corrupted. It's like OnPluginBroadcast is getting pushed through twice on the main screen.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hell, it even copies doubles the "You ask Melvin for a quest." part right before the mobsay.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: did you turn it off and on again?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Restarted it, etc.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Of course, it works in a fresh client with only the two plugins related to quests installed.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: only questor stuf?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, only questor stuff.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: have you disabled questor plugins?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: "You ask Melvin for a quest" isn't even GMCP stuff, though, which is really what throws me off.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, and if I do that, I /think/ it goes back to working properly. I also copied all the plugins over to a fresh install, though, and suddenly, it started acting up again (even though the two plugins do not create a problem)
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, I mean two plugins alone*
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what two plugins
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: SnD, and my Themed Tracker, which I've run side-by-side for a while now with no issue.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: and if you disable them the problem goes away
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so which one of those makes the problem appear? it's usually only one
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If I disable *one* of them, the problem goes away. But if I install both of them on a fresh install, there is zero problem at all.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: until there is
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Even copying the state files over, it doesn't create a problem.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you said the new copy started having the problem too
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah. It's just super weird because I could understand it if it was GMCP stuff, purely. But there are components outside GMCP that are being doubled.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No, the new copy had no problems with both of them installed.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so what does "I also copied all the plugins over to a fresh install, though, and suddenly, it started acting up again" mean?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, sorry. I should have clarified. I ran the process through twice. When it's JUST the two plugins, no problem. And I have that in a fresh install. But I created a second fresh install, installed all the other plugins, and suddenly the problem started again.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what do you mean "all the other plugins"
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But if I disable one plugin in the problem MUSH, the problem goes away.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The other plugins I use, like my AardClock, data trackers, modified statmon window.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: well, true fact, a plugin can only duplicate a line if it does something on incoming lines
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: do any plugins trigger on those lines?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: QUEST: You may now quest again --> That's highlighted. "You ask Melvin for a quest." and the resulting mobsay paragraph is not triggered at all.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: did you try turning on debug tracing?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: However, the GMCP resulting from being able to quest again (and requesting a quest) are broadcast.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Game->Trace
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: broadcast how?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, and I looked into it, removed extraneous stuff that didn't fire OnPluginBroadcast because nothing else looked out of the ordinary.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm talking about how Aardwolf broadcasts the GMCP data on "quest ready" and "quest request".
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The only thing that isn't doubled that still is a result of quest GMCP data is the rewards at the end.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: For instance, here's the output from requesting a quest: https://i.vgy.me/jrEekQ.png --> You can't tell it from the picture, but the mobsay block is repeated again after the last line (You ask Melvin for a quest), and that last line is right above the first line, too.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Then there's this one: https://i.vgy.me/W5YH3h.png
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but it definitely doesn't happen if one of your plugins is disabled, right?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Correct, as far as I can remember. I have a quest coming up in 5 minutes, so I'll double check then.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: - 121
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so what's happening inside the one you can disable to fix it?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nothing out of the ordinary that I'm aware of. It looks for OnPluginBroadcast for the GMCP, and then outputs strings like "Quest ready!" or "Quest target killed!", etc. And no doubling up of the "you may now quest again" line with Themed_Tracker disabled. Time to switch the two and see what happens.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ooo... looks like it's the Themed tracker after all.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Could have sworn I checked both earlier. Guess I missed it.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But it doesn't cause the same problem in the new client. *boggle*
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (Also, before asked, no, there are no triggers client-side that would create the same situation)
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what does it do?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Themed Tracker? Keeps track of quests completed, grabs info from GMCP for quest info. That's really the short of it. It also allows for customization of strings for output (so you can have it say, "Hooray! You killed the mob! Here are your winnings!" if you like).
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also allows for customizing color schemes.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: and if you disable it the problem ends?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Took the idea from GdAnGuS years ago and converted it to MUSH.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: can you post the plugin somewhere?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's up on my Github. Let me get you the direct link.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: https://github.com/AardCrowley/Aardwolf-Scripts/blob/master/Themed_Tracker/Themed_Tracker.xml
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I do use the deprecated way of gathering GMCP info, though (haven't updated it in a long time).
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: dunno
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, it's quite weird.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Should mention I wasn't looking for a fix in general. Just find it quite odd. Best case scenario, you had come across it before. Worst case scenario, no one has any earthly idea.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: is there a way to manually set a room you are not currently in as norecall/noportal?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: mapper help portals
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: there it is thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I'm using search and destroy and I'm on a quest. When I enter 'xcp' I get: 'xcp' aborted - cp is active but target list is empty.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Am I doing something wrong?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: xq for quest
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: xq  qill reload the quest target
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mousie Tech: cp is campaign
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Ah! That helps, thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drulvan Tech: speaking of S&D (btw, whomever created this, i love you.)  Is there a door trick (other than passdoor?)
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddly Adarax Tech: yes, cexits. Take a look at mapper help exits
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: So, should there be a way, using S&D, to arrive at the entrance, and then have it map the way to the target?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: that is done in the mapper
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: you mean using mapper find and mapper goto?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: mapper isn't particularly good at mazes. but it's great at doors.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: the only thing snd "does" is save you from typing things manually
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drulvan Tech: so i should be able to get it to open doors that are not locked?  I only have trouble in certain areas it seems
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yes - use mapper help. you're looking for the cexits function
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: So, if the Index shows: No matching rooms found. Does that just mean I haven't explored the area enough for the room to be listed?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: "mapper cexit open s;s" as the most basic example.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: (double that ;;)
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: mapper cexit open s;;s need double
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: making routes, etc. is all done by the mapper which comes with the mushclient package (not snd)
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drulvan Tech: ok, think i got it... so when i come to a door that i dont auto open (such as a west door), while in that room i type cexit open w;w ?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drulvan Tech: with two 
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: "mapper cexit". two words.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: then wait a second for mapper to detect the destination room (it'll notify you).
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: read through mapper help - there are other functions that you need to know to make the most of mapper
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drulvan Tech: will do, thank you!
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: yeah, you can register pretty much any route that's navigable by a command stack, some of my cexits are pretty convoluted.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Should the SnD window be populated with targets? Or what is the window for?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drulvan Tech: type cp check
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Only works when on campaign or gquest? I'm just on a regular quest.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The SnD window only populates with campaign and gq targets. xq is all you need for quest info.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: At some point, I may add a 'quest' portion of it.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: depends on the version. some do cp and gq only, no q
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Ok, I'm getting the hang of it, thanks for the answers!
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: pwars has a quest line that lists at the top
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drulvan Tech: mine does quest? i dont recall having to type anythign to get the mob target to show up in window, i only do that for compaigns
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: it'll do quest, just won't show in the windo
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drulvan Tech: thats interesting... mine does, unless im thinking of something else.  I do quest request, and it populates the target in the S&D window. I have v2.0.1
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: there's a few different versions out there by different people
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drulvan Tech: aah ok
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: should the next target load automatically into snd?
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: no, you have to xcp to get the next one
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Ok, thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Doing it automatically is against the policies here anyway.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Ok, that makes sense.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: anyone had trouble getting bast moons plugin to work?  I can't seem to get the window to show.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: takes time
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: it needs enough time in room were you get weather upsates to open window, until it gets moon timing window wont show up.
T3/r7/2020-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: ahhh alrighty thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc was offline, missing Tech channel between 03:40:00 and 11:29:52
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I'm using snd, the gquest is over, but my xwin is still populated from the finished quest. What command clears the window?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yes you can, but you'd be crazy. 
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: cp check will clear it
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: That didn't do it. 
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: There got it. Used 'gq ch'
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: when all else fails, shoot the messenger
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: I listen to a guy do a video on how to make a targeting alias but I?m still lost alt and enter brought up a list but I couldn?t find alias
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: alias is under input
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: I found timers
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: to bring up the alias section press ctrl+shift+9  i believe
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: I have no idea how to push all those buttons at once
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: You hold down Ctrl, then you hold down Shift, then you press 9.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: Assuming you have two hands, you can do Ctrl+shift on one hand, and hit 9 with your other hand.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: (Assuming you have at least 3 fingers combined)
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: Alternatively, you can use the Menu to navigate. You'd go to the Game menu, through Configuration, and all the way 2nd to last is Aliases.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: I have both hands and all my fingers it?s just that I?m still new to using a computer
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: I don't like to assume that people have all their digits and hands, so I gave two ways of doing so, and hopefully explained how you press all three at the same time. :)
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I started on Windows 95 8)
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: Back in my day, you had to use both feet, 7 fingers, and your nose just to press combinations on your keyboard!
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ZzZzZz falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: I really appreciate that and the help I found aliases what do I do from there
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyzzy Tech: back in my day, you only needed 1 finger to move the beads on the abacus
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: Well, it really depends on what you want to do with the aliases.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I cant be the only one that thinks that mouse with the rotating ball on it is so sux.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: Pfft, the ball mouse that you had to clean constantly otherwise gunk got on it and made it impossible to move? 
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: punk?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: that is why they inverted them for a while and called them trackballs
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I never owned one, but I can imagine that will happen, will be irritating.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: those were nice for drafing with autocad
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: can we speak about the cyperpunk mess
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: sorry please continue
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: it?s a simple alias I just don?t know how to add it
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: If you're comfortable with the toolbar (file menu etc) you can get at it with game to configure to aliases
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: I know how to get to it yes
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: Well, again, what is it you want to do, Sharlet?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: What alias are you looking to create?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: (And please don't worry about looking dumb for it; anyone who thinks that here doesn't belong here at all)
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ZzZzZz agrees!
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: sl for slice
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: Well, 'slice' isn't a command. Aliases are commands you create to send other commands. For example, if you wanted to just type 'door <mob>' instead of typing 'c door <mob>', you could do: alias door c door', and in the future, you'd type 'door <mob>'
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: You can do 'tab completions' to be able to type 'sl' and press 'tab' to make it send 'slice', though.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: I know it?s not a command in this mud but in another mud that I have on my laptop it is I?m using my iPad to communicate with you guys
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: sorry for the confusion
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: Oh, in that case, if you must use MUSH for the alias system, you would do it in this manner: In the alias menu that you are able to bring up, click 'Add'. In the first box (titled 'Alias'), you would type 'sl'. In the second box titled 'Send', you would type 'slice'. That's about all you need to do for a simple alias.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: how do I get to the output commands
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: That is in the 'Send' box that I mentioned. To make it easier to get to, after you click 'add', you start off in the alias box. Type 'sl', then hit tab 3 times and that will put you in the 'Send' box. After you type 'slice', hit tab once, then enter, and it should save it for you.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: mapper keeps trying to send me through a wall in Aylor, is there an updated version of mapper, or how do I fix the issue?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garamis Tech: what's the mapper room number?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I'm trying to go to 878
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: It's not a mapper plugin problem. It's how you currently have an exit or lacking a cexit.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garamis Tech: what's the room number of the room that is causing the problem with the wall
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: 32489
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: Torsin: Go to where you originally started from, and type 'mapper where 878'. Then follow that step-by-step to see if there's an error in your map somewhere.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garamis Tech: you want to go to halls of vanir clan shop area?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Thanks, Crowley. I'll give that a try.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drulvan Tech: is there an online version of mapper help?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Yeah, who doesn't like the Vanir?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garamis Tech: from recall, type runto vanir, then once you arrive, type xset mark, i think that will solve the problem
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: Drulvan: An online AND offline version! All in your client! Type 'mapper help' to see it! :p
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Garamis, I'll try that. Mapper does give me directions right through a wall.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drulvan Tech: yea, just was wondering if I could view that information somewhere outside of the client. it seems rather complex and is hard to learn from the mapper help commands... something i can keep up
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: is there any plugins to improve getting to an area by checking what portals you have and automatically using a portal rather than running?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: Drulvan: Copy/paste it into notepad or something.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: Evine: mapper already does that once you put the portals in.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: I think I saved it I just don?t know how to get to the list of all the things that have been sent to the mud
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: got it, how do you put portals in?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Yeah, still trying to send me through a wall.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Evine: DINV can help quite a lot with the actual portal commands, but yeah, mapper handles all the running.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: Read up on 'mapper help portals'. But the short answer is, wear the portal, enter it, then do 'mapper portal <command to wear the portal and enter it>'
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: sweet! Thanks, that'll help immensly!
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: Your best option, though, is to create an alias like 'port' that you can use to 'get <portal> bag;;wear portal;;enter'
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garamis Tech: torsin did you go to the clan hall entrance and type xset mark, usually that fixes the issues
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Yeah, I xset mark at the entrance.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: That way, all you have to do is type 'port academy', for instance, to get the academy portal out, wear it, enter it, and whatever.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garamis Tech: torsin are you typeing xrt vanir, to use the mapper to go to the area?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I'm readin the mapper help to see how to remove an exit from the room where I get bad directions.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: It's easier to modify an alias than 100 portal commands.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: lol it gets hard to manage a ton of aliases...
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: Nope, you only need 1 alias.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Garamis, no I'm using mapper goto
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: Evine: Do you currently use DINV?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garamis Tech: mapper goto should work, but normally people type xrt <area name>
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garamis Tech: try that
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: xrt Vanir tries to go through that wall too.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: Torsin: At what point in mapper where 878 did the mapper run fail?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: nope Crowley, what's DINV?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: Evine: People like to call it the holy grail of equipment managing.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Crowley: at room 32489.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: And where are you starting from?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: how do I get to the list of output information
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Crowley: from 32511.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Sharlet: ctrl+tab.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: Woah...yeah I'm gonna install the DINV plugin...lol
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Crowley: I think anywhere s of 32489 will give the error. Mapper shows an exit north, but there isn't one.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: Torsin: Go to 32511, type 'mapper where 878' and tell me the specific directions you get from it.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Crowley: Path to 878 is: run nuese
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Crowley: oops, that's from the other room
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Crowley: run 2e6nuese
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: crowley: that is directions given from 32511 to 878
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: Okay, so it's trying to go 6 north instead of 5 north.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: mapper goto 32489, and make sure you don't have an errant 'n' exit there.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: Right-click the room on the GMCP mapper, do 'delete exit -> n'
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Crowley: yes, there is an exit n
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stormwind Tech: Using Dinv.  For some reason it is not equipping my lvl 1 aura of sanc.  It's leaving the spot empty.  Any ideas?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Did a refresh all?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: adjust the priority so the "sanctuary" effect has more points...
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Crowley: That did it, thanks a ton!
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: I gave mine 999 points
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stormwind Tech: ahhh I bet that is it, I made a VERY simple paladin priority.  Surprised it isn't picking up the stats on it and wearing it based on stats
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stormwind Tech: that fixed it, just put sanctuary to 1 point for level 1-200.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: ctrl+tab doesn?t work
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: it doesn?t do anything
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: If it doesn't work, then I misunderstood what you meant by 'output information'. You're refering to something other than the history of what the MUD has sent?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: pretty sure the output window is default on the vi version.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: but it also looks an awful lot like you're on a phone keyboard, so I'm confused.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: that?s exactly what I?m referring to but it doesn?t pull it up for some reason
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Are you using the no-visuals version of the client package?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: make sure that you have the aard_vi_review_buffers 
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: it's a plugin. ctrl+shift+p and look through the list for it
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drulvan Tech: is there a place to view all available plugs? bs thi
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stormwind Tech: like ones you have installed or ones you can install?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: no. they're scattered. pwar has some, Crowley has good ones, I think hadar has a few.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drulvan Tech: oops, i did it again, i actually found the answer, or at least somewhat (github)
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: Not really sure about anyone else, every third person seems to have a plugins repo.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia points excitedly at Durel!
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I knew I was missing one
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: His is good, too.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia grins at Eroe.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Sharlet, any luck?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: I couldn?t find that plug-in but I guess it?s because I?m on this mud on my iPad and I?m in another mud on my laptop
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eroe boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: So to resolve the confusion, you're not playing this mud with the client you're asking about, and you're asking about aardwolf plugins for another mud?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: no I?m just asking about the client in general
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: well, the output window is generally soundpack specific. you can install other plugins, but help playing another mud is likely not going to be covered here, especially when you're also asking about things a small number of people know about.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: sorry about that
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: if you're interested in the output window stuff, you can grab chatpack's client and pull plugins from there, or mush-z (which is a soundpack from another game) and pull those plugins out if you want. I think they're called output_window in both cases.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: yeah... good luck using plain Mush with a screen reader. IIRC the one time I tried it nothing would get read out. Fiendish made it awesome.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: you have to go hunt for plugins to make it work.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: It can/will, but you need the mush reader.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: there is a plug-in called mush reader
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Ah, nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I still use the one I wrote like 10 years ago, I was worried about mush reader because the guy that initially wrote it IIRC was this nazi dude who would push white supremacy music on people and give them shitty little viruses he wrote up that would play keygen music. Running his binaries was a scary prospect for a while.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: that?s crazy
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: never judge a book by it's cover, I say, nor a programmer by their Nazi rantings
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: just by their distributed "viruses"
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eroe Tech: I didn't even know Keygen music was a thing!
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharlet Tech: what is it
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: My Dinv is crazy, at lvl73 it only started to equip me lvl71 set.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rezit Tech: dumb question for anyone who is still using zmud, if i'm seeing this for colours, what have i not selected correctly? You say '[0;51;40mLeader[0;36;40m #63[0;57;40m Roume [0;51;40mLast[0;36;40m #20[0;57;40m Rezit '
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DirtyBubble Tech: you may have to turn colors off. Does Zmud support the modern color palette?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: Those are ansi color codes. Hmm.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rezit Tech: yet i have my preferences set to ansi colours
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rezit Tech: oh well.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rezit Tech: not like we'll be using that nascaard script ever again.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Crowley glares around him.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: I thought it had gotten completed from the conversion. Well, I still have the copy of it that was previously worked on, so let me see what I can do when I am able to. :p
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Is 33 degrees celcuis conciderd "cool" for an air coooled CPU? Just curious.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pringle Tech: yes that's very good
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Thanks 8)
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I forgot to say while idle.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Its 36-37 now while playing Fallout 3 1080P max settings lol.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: is it an intel cpu?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Yup, wuth 3 extra big case fans on stratgic spots.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: New PC only 6 months old, custom build.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i remember AMD runs hotter than intel.  
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ZzZzZz nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drulvan Tech: bigger question is what is your GPU temp.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: 46 idle and 65 under load
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drulvan Tech: i recently went through all this cause i accidently bought a mini-itx motherboard and figure since i had it, may as well get an itx case
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: ATX ?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drulvan Tech: ITX
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Yeah Z, I think 33C is pretty cool
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drulvan Tech: finding a cpu fan with enough TPU that is 65mm or less was a challenge
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: itx motherboard in an atx case ftw
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ZzZzZz gives Drulvan a nod, saying, "OK".
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drulvan Tech: yea, thats where im at right now Noegel :)  i thought it was much louder in the ITX case, so i put it all back in my atx, although i think  it was fine.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Quad its now in the middle of summer, when I got the PC it was winter and it idles like 26 celcius lol.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: haha
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: has your ambient temp changed that much?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: No air con haha.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Shouldn't: Note ("GetVariable("prevdirec")") just print to screen what the variable currently is?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: No. You don't quote the GetVariable function, only the value inside it. So: Note(GetVariable("prevdirec"))
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Thanks again, Crowley!
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: YouTube is ridiculous. Had a 13 minute ad for a 5 minute video.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stormwind Tech: oh man we watch to much youtube in this household, I paid for the add free.. lol
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phayle Tech: oof, can't imagine watching youtube with adds, ive had google play music since its inception, and the major perk is i get no youtube adds ever :)
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: We have it on for the kids. Peppa Pig all. day. long.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phayle Tech: nice!
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stormwind Tech: it's blippie here right now =\
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stormwind Tech: that guy scares the crap out of me.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: I refuse to add my premium account to the TV, so it runs on the guest account. I do NOT want my suggestions plagued with 'Peppa Pig'. And I do not want to pay for a separate ad-free account.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: But of course, the 3-year-old stepdaughter cries out, "Peppa Pig" (though it's "eppa ig!") whenever an ad comes on...
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stormwind Tech: I think the family plan is a little bit more gives you 5 or 6 accounts to use.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crowley Tech: Yeah, but there are only 2 accounts. Not worth it for that.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: To set a variable that is a number, does something more than just (SetVariable("var", "varvalue") need to be used?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, SetVariable will always set it as a string. However, when you need to call it as a number, you can do: tonumber(GetVariable("varvalue"))
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: recommend a tonumber(GetVariable("varvalue"))
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: recommend a tonumber(GetVariable("varvalue") or 0) where 0 is a good ddefault value.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at [Outlaw] Mendaloth.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Otherwise you might run into a nil error.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Thanks, I'll see if I can get that to work!
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: So, SetVariable will save the number, but to call it tonumber needs to preceed it? Is that right?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Correct.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Crowley: Thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: SetVariable will always store it as a string, no matter the type.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: How could I create an alias in Mush to go to a certain room #? I tried sending 'mapper goto room#" to script and world, but neither worked.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Send to execute.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: execute
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: When executing an actual alias, it's Send to Execute. World sends it raw.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Thanks all! That's a new send for me. I'm learning, slowly maybe, but ...
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Better than not learning at all. We all started from somewhere.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: and some of us (me) dont ever go anywhere x.x
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: Execute is like typing it in, world sends it directly to the mud, script is for scripts
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: True. I feel a little dense sometimes trying to script.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Brobeo: Thanks, I'm starting to learn about all these layers of sends.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: still have yet to see a send to, your mom joke.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Those are the three you'll most likely ever use (World, Execute, Script). Most people use Execute.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I think I've been sending to World a lot when I should still probably be sending to Execute more.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Stormwind: I would, but your mom sends me away before you wake up.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i forgot you can send it different places too much time looking at notepad++ lol
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torsin chortles - mom jokes...
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: BOOM!  There it is.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Isn't it Whoomp! There it is!?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torsin smirks.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: With Stomry's mom, it's... WHOOPIE, IT IS!
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: My mom is like 70 year old... lol  that's on you. ;)
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torsin chuckles.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: so a Gmail outage for hours, I "wonder" who could possibly coordinate that (not really, I know exactly whos behind that project). Legion needs to rise up
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: is there a way to change your opener with the S&D kk button? such as from k to bs?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: is it an xml edit, or in game command?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: command its xset (command) to change it
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: had to look it up
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: https://github.com/AardCrowley/Search-and-Destroy/blob/master/README.md
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: ooh think i may be on a different version than that, since xset doesn't work
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: oh, i don't know then, might need to look up if your version has a command
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: but ill try this one out, i think mine was Stardust's last verion, 3.0. thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: hmm, i have that version and xhelp works, but xset comes back with sorry, i dont understand you?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: nm, i got it... thanks again!
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: was xset qk bs
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: How is the sound pack plugin turned on (and off since I'm guessing it might get old)?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: spmute
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Thanks, sounds active!
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: sphelp for info.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tarum Tech: oh... heh I forgot to do that.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: anyone have any experience with kano pc for kids?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonri Tech: Allo!
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonri Tech: Im trying to set Dinv up, and something is failing amply
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Not sure if he's around, but Durel is the author, you can try messaging him.  He'd probably be the best bet on helping there
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonri Tech: Ill try
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonri Tech: am I the only one who has it unequipping wrists and ears?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: I've never had such an issue myself with it.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: He did a refresh, he has detect invis up. Nothing else is going in those slots.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: It's weird for sure.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Oh that is weird.  Yeah, Durel is your man for that 
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonri Tech: what was the refresh command?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: dinv refresh all
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: you could also try to rebuild the database with a dinv build confirm
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonri Tech: you guys are awesome
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonri Tech: now it works
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonri Tech: I hope it doesn't break again
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: What was the key that made it work?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonri Tech: the rebuild
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonri Tech: there's a chance I didn't have the proper spellups on build
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Spellups won't affect teh build of the database...it just tracks the items and their stats (not yours)
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: anyone know blowtorch touch vibrate commands?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: The items were invis, though. Possible he didn't have detects up during the build which would've made dinv miss them?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonri Tech: but detects...
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: But if you die enough, the database can get a little FUBAR if you don't do a refresh after you pick up your equipment
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: I think.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonri Tech: Although there were many more invis items
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Welp.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Yes, that is true Areia, I also think.....but a refresh would have solved that too...not a full rebuild
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Just blame Durel.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonri Tech: refresh didn't help at all, rebuild rigth after did
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: At least it works...I have no clue why that would have worked properly.  I do find that sometimes DINV just has a mind of its own (Durel will tell you that's the AI trying to take over)
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonri Tech: Random trivia: I got back to MUDs because I'm studying a Unix module and I discovered "But this is the stuff from my childhood".
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: oh are we talking about Skynet emerging now?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: DINV...Skynet....same thing
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonri Tech: I was feeling lazy to study for any test. So I got it back. And then I had to memorize more at the academy than any test.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: it showed up ages ago.  got disgusted with the state of things, and started playing solitaire.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: are blowtorch scripts any good on shindos page? j cant get them to work
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: i dont use them, but i know ppl do use them. uoi have to put up specific triggers and alais in the instructions, to get them to work.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: i just have to drag and drop. and replace a folder. i just wanna know if its changed
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: i heard someone has a runto and s and d for blowtorch. is that true?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: what do these people actually think theyre creating? I know Im crippled physically, but I have morals and creating something like Spot the Dog (Boston Dynamics) is something I have problems with
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: shido has a mapper for blowtorch, yes.
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: i want that
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: see ya soon when i pull my hair out
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonri Tech: is it normal for dinv usage to not show all items?
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: what do you mean
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonri Tech: I have items. Like a brain worn on my feet. That one does not show in dinv usage thief
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: think i got it
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: test run. please dont spam the chat like last time XD
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: spellup says queing apell for later but not casting
T3/r7/2020-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: have they invented a train exp per kill tracker for nlowtorch?
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Does anyone know of any database/SQL editors that can easily mass-edit cexits in the Aardwolf.db file? I've tried 3 now and none of them could do that.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: define "mass-edit"?
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So a sort of automated replacement. Like, replace all entries of "Fire" with "Ice", things like that.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: If you can write the SQL statement for it, I use "DB Browser for SQLite"
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: my spellups script is casting skills instead of ain usage
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: plain*
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: yea, a few times last night my spellups looked... odd
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: its supposed to be just awareness. mine casts it as a spwll
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ZzZzZz english speak good 4 u!
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: imma need to fix that
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: haha i need to fix that is my favorite phrase
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I have a trigger that catch "tags spellups" and just cast them, Simple and easy.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: imma just open it from file manager in the pligin folder. think i can open it as a document Nd just find the plugin skill and edit it?
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: i have issues who feed their kids nyquil when they are young. but whos complaining
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: Are there any public enchanting plugins that work? google turned up highballl buy that seems to be broken.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I played this game on a small screen Blackberry at first, and GQ wasnt even on my horizon of things cabaple off 8)
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: miss
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Nods, it was a 3 inch screen with telnet, later I went to touch screen android phone then tablet, Now 24 PC, was a learinng curve lol.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: miss dammit
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phayle Tech: any way to scroll the main muschlient window when in the alias editing menu?
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Best way to edit an alias is really copy what you have, paste it to an external editor like VSCode or Notepad++, and edit there. Copy it, then paste back.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phayle Tech: ah thanks, was hoping there was a workaround or something heh, not a big deal really
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phayle Tech: ah yeah i was just trying to make minor adjustments to one based on a path i was running
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phayle Tech: and some key info had just scrolled off the screen when i was about to use it :)
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DirtyBubble Tech: I have a cexit question.  When  I add a cexit, isn't it supposed to integrate with SND?
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: SnD uses the mapper, and whatever mapper has on hand.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I suddenly got a lot of red marks in SnD. I tried 'xset index areas' but that didn't fix anything. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Do you have those particular areas mapped?
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Yeah, not all, but many.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Try to reinstall it (Ctrl+Shift+P, Search_and_Destroy -> Reinstall)
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Is it a room campaign or an area campaign?
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: No, gquest
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Try the reinstall. If it's still red, you might not have those areas mapped. If it's based off roomnames, then you might not have those rooms mapped.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: How do I reload the gquest?
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: try gq info/gq check. I forgot about the bug that plagues those that I think I have a fix for.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Reinstall didn't work. I have mapped most areas though. I'm currently in an area that is red linked.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Send me your gq info output, please. I've got to be away for a few minutes, but will check back in a few.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: How do I send it?
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I want to set a wildcard in an alias "*", that lua interprets as a number value. Is there a way to do something like toInt(%1)?
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Specifically, I want to be able to run a for loop counting down from the number given in * to 1, in increments of 1. So if I type alias 9, it'll count down from 9, if I type alias 10, it'll count down from 10, etc.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Figured it out :D You can in fact just use tonumber(%1) and it works fine.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Braun goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Torsin: Copy/paste it, put it in pastebin.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Crowley: https://pastebin.com/A76F42Eb
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Torsin: Those are room names, so you likely did not have those rooms mapped yet.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I know I had many of them mapped
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Then I'm not sure at this point. :\ That's the only thing I can think of otherwise.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Ok, I'll try restarting things too.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: thanks for checking
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Anyone drag please ?
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Sorry, I was reading tech channel.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Crowley: I just started a quest and snd seems back to normal. I restarted Mush client, so maybe that did it/
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: When in doubt... try turning it off and then back on again.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Yeah, I was in the middle of a gquest, but I should have just done it then.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonri Tech: how did you rebuild the DINV database?
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: see "dinv help build" for info on how to build/rebuild
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: basically just "dinv build confirm" though
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: One trick some people do if they don't have the identify wish is to build dinv at "runto identify" so you get all the item stats (resists, dam types, etc.)
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: good idea
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kegu Tech: how do you see what version of mushclient you are running?
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: help, about
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kegu Tech: ah ok thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: alt-h, a
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: np!
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: checkversion says what version of the aard mushlcient package you're using.  package update check to check for updates
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Does Daily blessing shows when its avaliable in prompt regularry? Mine is deactivated.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I forgot about it, and could have got my daily 3 hours ago x_X
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: daily prompt to reenable it
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I typed it and got Turning daily blessing prompt notification off., so it aws ON but it doesnt show in prompt.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Oh well, thanks though, will make a noise trigger to play a mp3 when double is ready.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: looking for some regex help, I'm looking to update the nulanboar plugin I made and I want a regex to match the "where" output for mobs that are either in "Hiding, waiting for the night" or "Hiding, waiting for daylight"
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hiding, waiting for (?:daylight|the night)
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Are you gonna make it so it automatically fetches the item if you where them as hiding? That's smart and awesome.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: yeah, I want it to generate a clickable link when you "where" a hidden mob to summon it
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: so for instance, "a female sharp-tailed grouse   Hiding, waiting for daylight" should capture "female sharp-tailed grouse" or "an adorable deer mouse         Hiding, waiting for the night" should capture "adorable deer mouse"
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Can it generate a command instead? eg. if I where a mob as hiding, I can type nulan and it automatically fetches the item for the last mob I whered as hiding?
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I play with my fingers on the keyboard, and it's a delay to have to reach for my mouse to click the link.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, for all the mobs, you can do: ^(a female sharp-tailed grouse|whatever|this mob too)\s+Hiding, waiting for (?:daylight|the night)
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: if I could just type nulan, or even better, just automatically give the item, that would be even better than a lin.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: yeah the idea is it'll generate a link and then you can also type "nulan last" to pull that specific mob
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: will the parentheses around daylight/the night capture that as a variable cause I only care about the mob name
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: I accidentally converted all of my aliases into a plugin using the plugin wizard, how do I undo that
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Open up the plugin and copy all the aliases back.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: one-by-one? there's no bulk import option?
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Best way to do that is to open up a new file, start it with <aliases>, then copy all the xml from <alias  to </alias>, then paste that in the new one, then once you're done, finish it with </alias>
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: I'm not understanding
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, so your aliases in plugins are in xml format. It's typically <alias match="whatever" send_to="10"... yadda yadda yadda></alias>
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: okay I got it
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The only thing extra you need to do is start the file with <aliases> and end the file with </aliases>
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: I just opened the plugin, copied everything from <aliases> to </aliases> and clicked paste in the alias manager
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: whew
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I wasn't sure if you had specific ones for your plugin, so you'd want to take them out of the client if you do.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: I already had those in my plugin, but my plugin had no triggers previously so I just wanted to create a temp plugin for that trigger so I knew how to extract it and put it in the new one properly
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: anywho, that's all fixed up, just tested and the new feature should be working, I'll upload
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: is there an aarch plugin that keeps track of what you still need? really dont feel like making one lol
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: ok then
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: I am trying to dig up where I found it
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I have a copy, hold on.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Author was Endymion
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Or yeah, I could post it to pastebin...
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: https://pastebin.com/kEPWbGdv
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Or let crowley do the hard work.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley smirks.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: my brain isn't working today....
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Technically, he only asked if it existed not for the plugin :-p
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: which is good enough for me not to write one, i dont plan on activly playing until next year :P
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: So my answer was technically good enough then haha
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: lol it already errored out ...
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phayle Tech: where can i change the volume of sounds within mushclient?
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: If you're using the soundpack, sphelp will give you all the commands.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: sphelp (assuming soundpack)
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phayle Tech: ah no, a plugin i just installed is producing a sound that i would like to adjust the volume of
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phayle Tech: oh yes it is this soundpack as it turns out hahha, thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edible Paiste Tech: MushClient question. Communications window/box has disappeared and i can't figure out how to get it back. anyone have any ideas?
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Try aard layout restore
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GrayBeard Wario Tech: type resetaard
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It'll reset all your windows, though.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GrayBeard Wario Tech: yes, but you can resize them
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edible Paiste Tech: that didn't bring it back. 
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Check your plugins and ensure aard_channels is installed, then.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ctrl+Shif+P, look for Aarwolf_Chat_Capture_Mini...
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: er, Aardwolf_Chat_Capture_Mini...
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If it's not installed, you'll need to install it manually.
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edible Paiste Tech: it was uninstalled somehow....reinstalled and worked
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edible Paiste Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Quite welcome. :)
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: while we're on the subject of aard layout, type aard layout and save your layout
T3/r7/2020-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: aard layout save <name>
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions get answered now
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Why can certain file types when you compress it the ratio is very good like 32%, and that of movies or vids is like 99%?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: lol
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: most video formats are already compressed
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: they could, they are just lazy
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Ah ha.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: they watch the movie and don't do a good job
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ZzZzZz goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: compression formats are set to remove blank spaces, text documents have lots and can sometimes achieve 75% and higher compression ratios
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: like Rexifelis says, movie files are generally already quite compressed. If they could compress the files more without losing anything, they would have already
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Blank spaces, I cant see that in minds eye, If I were a coder then maybe.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ZzZzZz nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you can often make video files smaller by switching to newer more advanced video compression algorithms, but if you don't start from the original uncompressed source video it's called transcoding and usually loses a small amount of quality each time
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: most compression formats just store video files within the 'wrapper' of the compressed file.  one good thing about this is it can generate a
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the suspense is killing us
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: MD5 hash and you can compare that hash at a future date to make sure what is inside the .zip .7z or other formats is actually what you wanted to unzip
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you're mixing terminology in a way that will confuse anyone who needs to ask the question in the first place
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the video file format is itself a compression format
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Makes sense now, was always wondering ...
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I grew up with winzip and winrar, later in life I found 7zip, and was impressed by eats compression ability. Must be a new thing that caught me off guard.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: apologies, i dont type quate as fast as i used to.  carpal tunnel surgeries on both hands do fix the problem but also introduces changes 
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I get that tunnel slightly from some gaming.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: document compression formats like zip/rar/7z are "lossless", so you get back _exactly_ the bits you put in. video compression is generally lossy, so you can't get back the exact uncompressed bits once compressed
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I see
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonri Tech: lossy compression for encrypted files.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: with lossless compression there are limits to how much you can theoretically compress the data while remaining lossless. lossy compression sacrifices data in order to compress smaller than that limit. you can imagine that if it had been simple to compress smaller _without_ losing more data, then the lossy compression would have been less lossy
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: OK last question, UCweb browser lets you continue a downloaded file anytime the connection gets disrupted, like if the power trips, tje download should fail right? so is the download placed in a buffer ahead of time?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: which is why you don't see a size change if you put a .mp4 into a .zip but would see a size change if you, say, deleted half of the frames
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: now take loss and replaced with costly
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: but fiendish what if I prefer the sound of this 96kbps sugar ray mp3
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: man, remember sugar ray?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: every morning.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ZzZzZz internet protocols allow you to request data starting in the middle of a file
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Wow, not like normal Hdd file copy.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so if you know you already have downloaded some of the data, you can just request everything starting after that size
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ZzZzZz nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I mean, there's technically no reason a HDD file copy couldn't also enable abort/resume in the same way
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it just isn't done
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Wierd
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: there's some really good download management programs that date from 56k era that allow you to resume a download and the end result is the same as a complete download
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: i remember those
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: when I download a file my web browser puts the retrieved bites into a temporary file that expands as it downloads, then when the download is complete the browser renames the temporary file to the final name
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I was always pannicky when I downloaded 3+ gig games, what if the connection broke, now I know better.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Interresting
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: what does it do? cut the last folder and starts with the checkpoint so to speak?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: that sort of segued into how bittorrent clients download different parts of the file at the same time
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: 32x CSAA looks so nice.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: In MUSH, how do you call upon the value of a variable? Like, say, you make a variable called healthquaff and place the name of the HP pot you're currently using as the value. Then you want a bunch of alias to quaff that potion. How would you write the variable?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: variablename)
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: @(variablenam)
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: without the brackets
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I can't get it to work. quaff variablename> just sends "quaff variablename>" to the MUD.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: did you check expand variables in the configuration for the alias?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nope. That fixed it. Thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Why does CP targets update automaticly in SnD window? But GQ targets wait for you to move first after killing one then it updates?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It should automatically send gq check once the gq mob is killed.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley probably should start adding debug commands.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: whats the most recent spellup plugin?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: It send the gq check automatically, but it only highlight the killed mob in red, it waits for you to move a room away before removing the red highlighted mob and then only it update to next target on a clean slate.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I guess I should start entering GQs to test it out, haha.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Yup. Its like a 1 to 2 second lag for the user, the user must manually press a move direction for it to update and clear killed mob.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: In CPs you do nothing, it update after you killed the target to the new list quickly on the fly.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i disabled and renabled my spellup window (it came from the bast plugins.) now its just a tiny sliver and i can maximize it... any ideas? i tried aardreset already
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: removing the pluging and re-adding worked
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Sometimes stuff on PC just stop working, it was working for months and you didnt change settings.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Wierd
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Didnt happen to me lately, in the past. Everything is already set to my likening, not even gonna uodate mush or software in near future or it will mess my stuff up.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: trying to find the most recent plugins that suit my needs at the moment... i hvae a mixture of stuff, but its a bit cluttered at the moment, so ive been playing with them.  I really like the eq mod except for the ID stuff when hovering, so i had to disable that
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What... eq mod?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonri Tech: probably dinv
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There's only one eq plugin you should ever use, and that's DINV.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nah, because there's no ID stuff when hovering.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: My guess is Bast's.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: it was bast... i installed that pack, but disabled most of it.  
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i do have DINV, but i have to learn how to use it... i dont have any enchanted sets yet, i think its mostly for that?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: DINV (finger Durel for the link) doesn't have windows, but it's pretty much the preferred way of managing your EQ with a plugin.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hardly.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: DINV's use is finding the best equipment in slot (BIS) based on a stat allocation that you choose.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: dinv will use your sets when you get it but until then it is still mega useful
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i liked the bast one cause i can see what i have on all of the time... if i could disable the id hovering i would use it just for that
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: oh nice.. i def have to figure that out then
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: dinv search worn
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So if you want to max out str and dex first, you set up a priority that lists those as higher scores. DINV will then go through your eq, find out what works best to max it out, and then equips it for you.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: that will show you your current worn stuff, just not in a miniwin
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: great for portals too
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Even better for portals.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: biggest hurdle to using dinv is learning all the combinations of keywords that make it so super awesome
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: dinv search worn is like a work of art
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel grins evilly.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Dinv question, I place my Aard invis ring in normal invetory, do a Dinv refresh full like I always do now and then, but Dinv keeps on placing the invis ring into my Aard bag.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: When I do dinv set wear mage
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: Durel, can you please include aliases for the correct spelling of words like organise in your plugin?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's not the correct spelling! *shifty*
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: lol
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: heh :p
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Durel should change it to: 'dinv organise because you can't spell organize correctly' as the alias.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Crowley: snd searches 'one minion' in horath's and doesn't locate 'one of Horath's minions'
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Torsin: That's correct.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that is what mobsub is for
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Ah, thanks, didn't know that one!
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Don't have mob sub yet in it.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Have to edit the xml to include it that way.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: just for that ima upgrade my useless plugin with the "correct" spelling of organise
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: I was assuming you did... my bad
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: "dinv organise" will now map to "echo Would you like a cup of tea while dinv organises for you?; dinv organize"
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley cackles gleefully at Durel.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sheriff Shindo falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Durel: You are misusing the phrase. Just do: "echo Would you like a cuppa while dinv organises for you?;dinv organize"
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: haha... im looking at the  readme... is that hte extend of the doucmentation?  I'm not sure i get how to set my stat priority
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: oh wait, dinv priority create im guessing
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: see dinv help priority
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: hrmm, i should re-write hadarprint to work with tables because it bugs me when it errors out
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: oh wow, thats detailed help.  Is this available in doc form or only with the plugin help?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: Hadar, tprint is available for you to use as a requirement
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: For dinv, the first place to start is probably the walkthrough in documentation wiki listed in my desc.  Once you have the basic from the walkthrough, you could do "dinv help priority" for more examples
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i know, but that means i have to toggle back and fourth between tprint and hadarprint :P
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: can't hadarprint see if it a table then call tprint?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: it could
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: then all you have to modernise is hadarprint
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: got it, thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: that is most likely what i was going to do :P
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Is there a way to add a cexit in Desert Prison? Will cexit take semicolons?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Have you read (fully) mapper help exits?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yes, use double ; in the cexit
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torsin blushes. I could probably read a bit more...
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: for a text based game it requires a heck of a lot of reading of documentation
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pestallel Tech: Don't worry Torsin ... I'm the same way
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torsin laughs at Shindo's comment.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torsin grins.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I mean, the NERVE, having to read things in a text based game! I only read (barely) on video games! Show me videos instead!
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torsin chuckles nervously.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pestallel tells (Aleister) Crowley to calm down.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pestallel beams a smile at (Aleister) Crowley.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I'm kind of joking at myself really :)
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I may have been accused of a dry humor, which probably doesn't translate to text well.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torsin smirks.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: so the DINV searches inventory for your stat priorities.  Anything out there that can help me search for what items i would want to find for starting my enchanting sets?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: https://hadar.ninja is where i would start (if it's up again)
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but if you have some spare tp then try place an advert on the forsale board
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: yea, ive been waiting to do that till i decide what i want to be when i grow up, its prolly thief or warrior tho
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: or you can try http://eq.gaardian.com/
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pestallel Tech: Nothing translates to text, really, lol
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Not unless you want to use a ton of punctuation and create a few ton more along the way.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: whats do full sets usually cost?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: level 1 - 1tp up to 5-6 tp for a level 201
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: cool, ty!
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: Shindo some things might not work, but if you let me know ill fix
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oh, i saw it was back up. for a while i couldn't even access it but that was weeks ago
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: it went down from funding issues
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i'm sorry to hear that, I hope you didn't have to sell to many organs to fund it
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: just my soul
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: I have too many mortgages on mine
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: When custom exits show up by typing 'exits' is that done by mapper or just that area? I've seen some custom exits in some areas, but not others.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Those are custom exits you set up...
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: some custom exits are shown that way, others are sneakier or just in room portals
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torsin nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: for example there is one in kobold siege camp that is hinted at in the room description
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i have a plugin that is basically hitting enter a few times to repeat my prompt (a cisco guy must have wrote this one :P )  Does anyone know which one that may be?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: as in, repeat your last command?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: just press the up arrow key and enter
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: no, my prompt is displaying 3 times after scrolling
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: or after i look in room
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: its one of the bast plugins thats doing it, just cant figure out which one
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Try disabling them one at a time
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: The command to change the SnD target is mobsub, correct?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No, for my version, there is none currently.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You have to modify the xml for it directly, but in my next version is going to have that ability.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Ok, thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Cool! That'll be helpful.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: is there an easy way to pull duplicate keys from the keyring using dinv?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Don't believe so.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But that'd be hard to do anyway, since multiple keys could have the same keywords, but different levels.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Getting rid of duplicate keys is one of those things that looks easy on paper, but when you try to program it, you find that it's really, really hard.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Ruhamah has a plugin that does it, but it doesn't work on my client, and I don't know why.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I've seen a couple of other scripters try to write a script for it and fail. And they were good coders too. 
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: So, it's really hard.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: I just use keyring get <keyword> for any key with (2) by it. 
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Yeah - I think pringle meant automated. Like I type one alias and it automatically discards all dupes.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: the trick is to not add keys to your keyring if you don't need them  :)
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Linkdead} Garamis Tech: in search and destroy, that button "kk" i modified previously to do special commands, but i can't figure out how to go back and modify it again
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: "kk" sends "k <mob>". So just make an alias "k *" and the body is "<special command> %1"
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: eg. "backstab %1"
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pestallel Tech: Silly question, but does anyone do work with URL redirects in IIS on Windows Server 2019, IRL?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: xhelp to list all commands if your are runnign crowleys
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Linkdead} Garamis Tech: ok thx
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: what would cause "i" to NOT show inventory?!
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: an alias
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: blindness
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: no aliases, not blind.  i think a plugin broke it, added a bunch of bast plugins
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Bast's plugins are broken due to being out of date. They're written well, but they were written 10 years ago for a much older version of mushclient.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Lots of bugs with them.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: his spellup and moonbot are about the only things that arent broken
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: his spellup breaks for me all the time.  I can use his moonbot tho
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: also his eqdb can bsod your pc if you fence a large quantity of items
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: any spellup alternatives?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Pwar's is good.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: his spellup is broken, too.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Linkdead} Garamis Tech: why not just use the aardwolf built in "spellup" command?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: pwar's version is good, yeah.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: yeah I have no bugs with Pwar's works great.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Garamis - the plugin automatically recasts your spellups when they go off.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: his spellup works just fine...
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: It more or less does that, just automatic :). Talking about Pwar/WW spellup plugin.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley has a spellup plugin creation in mind so that it remains updated and actually works. Heh.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Linkdead} Garamis Tech: that sounds nice to have it do it automatic spellups when they expire but it sounds risky if you go AFK and don't turn it off you could get nuked for botting i think is illegal
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: It's not.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Garamis Pwar's uses that to power his spellup engine.  But he also recasts them on you.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: spellup plugins aren't illegal
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: The view on practicing spellup skills/spells has changed and does not constitute botting to simply practice these to 100%.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Please read 'help botting', though.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Linkdead} Garamis Tech: well if you're afk and it auto spells you up constantly and you are leveling up your skills while being away from screen
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's not illegal.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Linkdead} Garamis Tech: ok coz i remember lasher posting specifically about that a long time ago
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Linkdead} Garamis Tech: must have changed
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Yeah Garamis, they changed it so it's legal now. Like I quoted from the helpfile
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: it was illegal way back when
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Intuition Tech: the leveling part is illegal. the spellup is not.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Linkdead} Garamis Tech: cool
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Except leveling up via spellup is... ridiculously slow and has no benefit.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: There's a lot of conditions attached to it - you can't be spamming the room, you can't cast 'em on anyone but yourself, etc.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: thanks all, im going to refresh my mushclient and try to only load updated plugins.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Intuition Tech: oh you mean leveling through the 1 xp/hour from practicing skills..
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: But you're allowed to keep yourself spelled up automatically
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's not gonna matter if you master a spell and it kicks you over to the next level.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: I mean you have people here quoting the exact specifications, and a long history of seeing actual bots getting nuked along with plentiful comments like "yo, nobody is going nuked because their dog puked on them one time in an aggro area and they coudln't get to a safe room" 
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: not sure what is leading to any confusion
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ogreskull: There's a difference. Those who get nuked because a dog puked on them while they were in an aggro zone and they couldn't get to a safe zone had triggers that kept them alive.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I remember the first time I accidentally typed "ak" during a speedwalk, before I reached my destination. I was certain I would get nuked the next day.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Linkdead} Garamis Tech: i guess the confusion was that it used to be illegal and it is no longer illegal & i didnt know that
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Perfectly understandable Garamis. :)
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: The Pwar version is 100% safe, it won't get you nuked
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: If you use his one, you'll be in the clear.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Autocasters and autohealers are grey lines. No one cares if you use them to save keystrokes. But if you're in an aggro room, go afk, and you have an autocaster that attacks and a quaffer that heals you, you're botting.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It toggles noexp when spelling up? :P
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Linkdead} Garamis Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: you don't need to toggle noexp to spellup
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh, I thought someone said if you level up from spellups while afk that'd be considered botting?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Seriously, what part of 'help botting' and reading it do people not understand? spellup bots are perfectly safe, provided you follow the exceptions listed under that section.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No, Giddorah.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh, I read that wrong then :)
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: There is an argument for not using spellup plugins - it lags you/stacks you. eg. if you die, all your spellups are gone, so the plugin will automatically try to recast 'em all. If you're in a GQ, that could lose you a lot of time. Some players don't like that, especially if they're hardcore and that 0.5 seconds of lag can mean the difference between death and survival. So they find other ways to keep themselves spelled up. Like making it so that they auto spellup whenever they request a campaign or quest. 
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Either way, as long as you follow the rules in help botting, it's legal to automate spellups (and spellups only)
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: I don't think it would be too hard to program a shut off switch to a spellup plugin for inactivity. That way we could more follow the spirit of the law.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In short, rules are: spellups only, only on yourself, and not profiting from enchantments via bots.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: so it's perfectly alright to sit in an aggro room if you don't need to cast spells or quaff?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: No, sitting in an aggro room while afk is never okay.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Always afk in safe areas. Best if it's a totally safe area like recall or manor, but at the very least make sure it's in an area where there are no aggro mobs.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: well...how would that be defined as botting though?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Your auto-attacks
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Read the helpfile and you'll see :P
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Your character automatically attacks mobs when it gets into a fight.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: To put things in perspective, listen to those who have been here for the longest time. Especially ones who Lasher has said, "Torture would be putting the person in a room with Crowley or Abelinc and having them go over the rules with them."
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: technically you're not doing anything, lol it's a function of the game to attack anything that attacks you
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: So, if an aggro mob whacks you, then your character is attacking it back.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DirtyBubble Tech: the triggers aren't going to fire if you fall offline without quitting
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Evine - you can see it that way if you want, but the imms won't. It is 100% illegal to be afk when an aggro mob attacks you. :P
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Let's be clear. You can idle in an aggro room. You simply cannot have a means of healing up during or after combat that allows you to sit in that room all day without dying.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You also cannot have an autocaster. Meaning, that you MUST be using pure melee.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: If you idle in an aggro room and you don't have healing, and the your melee attack pops the mob, that's botting no?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DirtyBubble Tech: I guess to keep people from pupping while sleeping
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Regardless, it is NOT smart to sit in an aggro room.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madik Tech: but if you kill the mob that angroed on you, then you would benifit from that death.  
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: No, don't idle in an aggro room
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: So, I'm guessing it would be considered botting but... How about a trigger that activates after a certain amount of inactivity in an area? To move you home?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: Right Crowley, wasn't saying you can use dog puking as an excuse for going afk with survival, I just was using the classic example of "going afk in aggro area". 
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Being AFK in a room which contains an aggressive mob, with or without triggers to keep you alive or attack, is still gaining experience without interaction and therefore considered illegal.  If you need to go AFK andwthe room loads an aggressive mob, leave the room (or better yet, the area completely).  Accidents may happen, but if you're prone to suddenly going AFK, you might want to venture in safer areas.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: That's the relevant helpfile text.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: yeah in general whenever there's rules conversations it's always interesting to explore possibilities, because rules are never perfect lol
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Alison: The point is, "Would you die, eventually, without interaction?" and if the answer is yes because you're not spamming hammering blow or quaffing potions, you're going to be pretty much "safe".
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It's more than that crow.  I know someone who idled in an aggro room 24/7 do farm an item the aggro mob carried.  That person has since been nuked, just FYI :p
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Linkdead} Garamis Tech: yeah crowley, the help file is pretty clear per alison's post, doesn't matter if you die eventually or not
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I think what Crowley means is something like: if you idle in Icefall slopes, without any triggers, you'll die really quick and then you'll be idling in the morgue. So it doesn't matter. But to be safe just avoid idling in aggro rooms in general period.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hence why I said "safe" in quotes, not that it's completely safe.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Giddorah - there's an in-game function that lets you automatically recall when you're linkdead. Use that.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: The problem with "auto-recall" triggers is that they become illegal when used during PK.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: If you just wanna move back home when you get linkdead, use autorecall
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Linkdead} Garamis Tech: that's a cool command didnt know about that one
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I'm more thinking if you're leaving in a sudden
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: in general I feel like anything someone does within a game without the help of coding or plugins or triggers/aliases should be fair game...after all the game is designed that way.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: it would be simple to set an auto 30 min disconnect or something if developers are afraid of afk farming?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I am with Evine. I am not an imm but if you turn off your triggers when there is a PK alert then it's hard to get punished for accidently going afk VERY infrequently
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Best thing to do is, if you're not sure, ask an imm. They'll give you the best advice.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: If it looks questionable or like a gray area thing, just ask an imm and you'll get the best answer.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i have seen loads of afk ppl but i cannot recall any of those getting a tangible benefit, even in an aggro room
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I'll just consider it illegal :)
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: My habit is to quickly recall every time I need to step away from the computer. Sometimes I forget, but 95% of the time it means I'm in recall or manor when I have to afk.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: IT works for me.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i have even seen players get moved by imms while the player was afk in an aggro room
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: ok, clean mushclient and "inv" works yay.  What was the spellup plugn you guys metioned?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As a note, it's always better to play on the safe side and assume something is illegal and be wrong than assume something is legal and be wrong about that.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Furian - pwar spellup.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: finger pwar, download his plugin manager, type ppm, click install plugin for the spellup bit.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: The onle issue I have had with pwar spellup is... it doesn't automatically cast Test of Faith.  
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (Sorry, got a phone call). The point I was making is this, though: If you are in an aggro room, and you are idle, you're more likely to get the benefit of the doubt if 1) it's your first time 2) you arren't casting spells or skills and 3) you aren't autohealing. You might get warned, even reprimanded briefly, but it's very rarely ever going to wind up in a nuke.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Compare that to you've been warned 5 times already, you were healing, and you were autocasting spells/skills... well then you are either ignorant of the rules or just don't care. :p
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Princess Alison nods at (Aleister) Crowley.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: thanks Alison
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i accidently turned something that is showing some debuggin, or plugin related info{invmon}  how do i turn that off?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: type "invmon" to toggle that
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: some plugins (dinv :P) require it though so you'll need to turn it back on if you use dinv
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: oh, but it shows on my screen?  the plugs require it shows in my console?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: the plugins that use it should gag the output from your screen so you don't see the invmon tags.  I'm guessing that you don't have those plugins installed or enabled
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Yeah, dinv gags invmon for me
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Side note, dinv is a great plugin, one of my favorites. 
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Princess Alison grins evilly at Durel.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: aaah... i just started over with mushclient and im in the process of putting the plugins i want back in... so DINV enabled that, and i didn't put it back on yet.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I dunno about the guy who wrote it tho
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Calm Stormwind looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Awww it was supposed to be funny. =p  Durel is a good guy. ;)
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Too late, my blacklist is write-only :P
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Princess Alison comforts A Calm Stormwind.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Nooooooo we need to change that I can't be on that black list.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gofer Tech: after installing DINV, my refrigerator makes a funny hissing sound, I dont recommend it
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: There are some blacklists I'd be ok being on, others I wish I were on, but that is one I refuse to be on.  I'll rename dangit. =p
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Hmm --> The name Dangit is available for use.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gofer laughs out loud at Durel.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Calm Stormwind chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The name Windstorm is available for use.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: The name ClearSkies is available for use.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phayle Tech: can you pop out chat tabs into their own window in muschlient?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phayle Tech: from the comms log
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Right click - Add New Tab
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: then Right clikc - TAb Capture Settings
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: That's not really their own window their own tabs...sorry if that's not quite what you wanted
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phayle Tech: ah yeah i have a seperate tab i wanted to just pop into its own window ya
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phayle Tech: i did read about some window creation plugin that i might try to use instead tho hmmm
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: is there a way to create an alias for weapons, so I dont have to update mapper portals as I change my offhand?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: nm, i figured it out
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: so i created an alias to dual wield my weapon, so i can use it in my mapper portals, but the alias doesnt seem to work there... it works outside of that tho.  Can we use alias' in the mapper portal stacked commands?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there any way to export your mapper exploration and cexits? Something's wrong with my .db file and I need to export certain specific things and start anew.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: I was looking on youtube about my video card rtx 2070 super
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: he said its Ti realy
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: you can call it tampax eddition
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: super fps absorbant
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnN0yiNg Eadric Tech: i ragret gettin' rtx2070 early....now i want 3080. 
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: well I have a 10900 i9 10 core 20 thread
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Logrom Tech: It took me some time for my brain to parse that as a graphics card and not something about remorting and tiering and experience..   ;P 
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: so i can upgrade video card later
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: ive been trying to get a 3080 since they released, no luck
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: I managed to snag a 3080 MSI Suprim
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: after yall get a 3080 I can just get a 4080 
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: shifty eyes dart back and forth
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnN0yiNg Eadric Tech: problem is if i get 3080 i'd have to change my PSU. my PC isn't that accesible... and i'd have to redo the cables in it after that....gonna be a nightmare
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnN0yiNg Eadric Tech: and whenever i tinker with my PC i always feel tempted to change parts.. lol
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: go
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: oops... i almost spent 6k qps on a portal slot, cause i can't figure out how to get an alias working in mapper portals!  i tried both in game alias and mushclient alias, both dont seem to recognize it?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: i have the alias set up on my mush to get portal, wear, enter, then redual and put away. i just give mapper the alias name and it runs it
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: hmm ok, i only created an alias  to dual wield my dagger again, the rest i just typed in... this way i only have one alias instead of one for each portal, but i give that a shot
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: actually that wont help cause then i have to change each portal alias every time i change my dagger.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: unless im missing some trick to it
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: you may want to look into DINV for item management.  It integrates with mapper for portals
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: if you have it as dual dagger in all of them and have dagger for all your duals
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: as in set alternative name with a tp?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: I second Kelaire's motion!
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you can make an alias "dual" that does "dual 2400243983" or whatever, then include "dual" in your portal alias, and make the portal alias send to "Execute"
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: then updating your "dual" alias will update all your portal aliases
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: alternatively, if you use dinv, you can do "dinv portal use 12345" and it will use portal 12345 and re-equip what you were wearing before
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i thought that was what i tried Sath, but i just put Dual (in my case dwn) in the mapper portal... not sure what you mean by make portal alizs send to execute
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: bonus points for using an eqdata trigger to send your secondary weapon id to a variable that gets used in your dual alias via expanding wildcards
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: i have a unique way i dealt with it. a trigger on levels to auto change my weapons and set wdual and wmain as variables with the IDs. then use that when portal swapping
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: in your alias, there's a field called "Send To" with a dropdown, Execute is one of the items in the dropdown
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Bonus points for making things intentionally obscure for someone who obvious isn't going to understand what you're saying? :P
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: dinv is on my list... its all a lot to learn :P
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: but at least he'll know that there are more options he can ask about
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: a good first step to learning is knowing the right questions
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Seriously, DINV takes care of everything you're looking at there
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia nods at FrshPrncOf Kelaire.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Braun nods at FrshPrncOf Kelaire.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: And the author, Durel....he's always around for questions (well he's on a lot...swear he has no life)
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm definitely not here!
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: sounds to me like the dinv options is the easier
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: 100%.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: IT is.  If you're trying to learn triggers and such, there are better things to take the time on....rather than reinvent the wheel
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: though reinventing the wheel can be fun too :)
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I actually love reinventing the wheel :P  I like to know exactly what my wheel is made of and how it works :P
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: ^
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: And that's why DINV has become sentient....*mumbles something abuot skynet*
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: triggers require the use of regex and that always gives me a headache :P
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: mostly they don't require regex
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Hey, somebody could make a framework for triggers that use PEG instead!
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you can get pretty far with just wildcards
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnN0yiNg Eadric Tech: wow, that's wild
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: ok, so when you say "dinv portal use 12345" is 12345 my portal id? How do i associate that with the mapper portal ?
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You can see examples in "dinv help portal"
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: aah ok, thats about as simple as it gets
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: omg... in 5 minutes, dinv fixed what i was working on the past hour.  Thank!!
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel smiles happily.
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: DINV is an awesome tool.  Read the help.  It does A LOT
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: And make sure you bug Durel every chance you get!
T3/r7/2020-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: yea, maybe its the FIRST thing i learn inside and out
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: I have a request!
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Denied!
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: LoL
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: I wanne hear it before it gets decided
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: When I walk by the aarch professor, I would like a notification or a tell, for places like the underdark where I spam walk through every room
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: spmute already handles that.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There's a specific event for the soundpack.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ocho Ocho Ocho goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Look at 'spset'
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: First option: aarch_prof
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: well look at that
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You'll get an "Hmmm..." like the Minecraft villagers.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: for DINV help, if i type DINV i get a list of commands.  Is that all of the commands?  Dinv help build, dinv help refresh, dinv  help search" and so on?  I'm trying copy and paste all of it to HTML files so i can read it easier while doing the examples.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: Think he has a wiki on his github page than may have more info
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: have you looked at the documentation from Durrel github?
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: yea, but there are pretty colors in game 
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: heh
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: pretty colours for the win
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: but i did forget about the wiki
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Is there a way to add multiple cexits? For example, ships at Annwn.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yes, add a cexit for each instance
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: just add them like you did the first
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Xyzzy Tech: yeah, same way you always add them... as long as it goes to a different room, no problem
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: a room can have multiple custom exists added to mapper
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Battle] Scars nods at Yes, THAT Xyzzy.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so you go back to the dock and say your new destination
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: you can extend the time limit then put them all in together. like pay guy;;o w;;wear mask;;w
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Yeah, I set that one up. Not sure how much it cost me to get the wait times right!
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: do the goal... no wait time required
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I thought new cexits deleted the previous.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Yeah, my goals todo list is getting pretty long! :)
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: new cexits to a room that exists, yes
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: they don't, even if they go to the same landing room
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Ah, that explains it.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: well, if you replace it by the same or you replace the cexit name when the cexit exists.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: How about adding notes to the xcp output in snd? I saw roomnotes, but not for the mobs.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: there is a sneaky way to do notes for mobs... umm involves one of the regex tricks fiendish has
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Sounds above my paygrade...
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: see #sub help with the #
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: aard help  has lots of stuffs "hidden" in plain sight from us
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Whoa! #sub help shows a ton!
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: fiendish, unlike me, is really good at doing documentation
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: yeah, not my strong suit, but I'm trying to get better
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I'm trying add notes for the SnD cp ch output. Is that what you're referring to?
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: maybe, i use it to make notes about what damtype mobs are immune or vulnerable to
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i'm not sure about crowley's S&D but pwars', once you've seen the mob, shows that you have seen it
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torsin nods
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: crowleys doesn't have mob support yet
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I think Crowley's does that though.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i thought crowley added that in the last round of updates
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Has not been fully added yet.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It is in the works, and will be pushed out. Just schoolwork has knocked me back a bit.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Now if I could find someone who would do all my essays for me, then I could focus solely on SnD...
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you signed a document to say you wouldn't do that
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Stupid academic integrity.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Just turn in snippets from imm and gclan Crow.  Those are very scholarly channels :p
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Durel.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Considering that most of college essays are bullshit anyway...
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Ok, I did a test. Crowleys SnD displays mapper notes for an area through use of the 'roomnote' command.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: *end PSA*
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: See what a little digging can do?
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torsin smirks.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Did somwthing change? mapper rt jot doesnt work anymore.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It has never been 'mapper rt'...
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's either been xrt for SnD, mapper goto <room id>, or runto <area> from recall.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: the mapper automatic rt jot when doing CP doesnt work anymore.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: xp
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: xcp?
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I mean when I "xcp 1" to go to fiest cp mob in SnD, the rt fails.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: HOW does it fail?
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Id mid run from recall is says a bunch of times, Alas, you cannot go that way.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: It worked lat mort, I didnt change anything.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: sometimes a door is already open and now its not
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: check cexits
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: From recall I see it attempts to run 2sd2wnw3nesd, isnt that pass amazon cal?
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: clan*
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Ahh, they changed amazon clan, no wonder.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: How do I delete amazonclan from SnD?
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley sighs.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You do not delete anything from SnD.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oh Fuuudge Kya Tech: Go to the room that first tries to use a bad exit, and type 'mapper purgeroom'
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: SnD is not a mapper.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: SnD does not store rooms.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: SnD does not store paths.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: All it does is execute 'mapper goto <room id>'.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: SnD is best thought of as a plugin that provides aliases for executing mapper goto X
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Anything you need to change or delete is from the GMCP mapper.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: By going to Amazon Clan, you can read 'mapper help' to find out how to purge zones so you can rebuild them.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: so you don't have to memorize all the mapper room id's :P
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Braun.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Kye, thanks that woked.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Makaki also made this nonsense abit back.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nonsense? Clans can change area exits as they see fit.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Its nonsense, clans get updated and regular users dont know why the runto pass thier clands layout work anymore.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: This happened as a result of those clans renovating their clan hall. And for the record, masaki's clan exit change made their clan hall much more accessible and I shop at their clan shop all the time now because of it.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Claninfo <clan> to find the most up to date speedwalk.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Clan broadcasting on general board or something that their clans exits etc changed would be nice 8)
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Masaki did so when they changed their exits.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: those jerks
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: LoL
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riyu Tech: hi, is anyone using the mush z soundpack?
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riyu Tech: I need to know how to turn the sounds on 
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: spmute
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: read 'sphelp' too.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riyu Tech: typing sphelp 2 doesn't seam to do anything?
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, you must be VI.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riyu Tech: I am 
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not 'sphelp 2', but 'too' as in also. Just type 'sphelp'
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riyu Tech: I'm blind
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riyu Tech: lol I read that, too, and thought it was a mistake
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oh Fuuudge Kya Tech: Mush-Z is specifically designed for Alter Aeon, not Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riyu Tech: it is but there's a mush z pack for sounds and things
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oh Fuuudge Kya Tech: If you download the non-visuals Aardmush package, it includes a super basic soundpack and also a slightly modified version of Mushreader
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Riyu: The Aardwolf MUSHClient comes with its own sound pack.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I didn't realize you meant MUSH-Z. I'm not familiar with that version.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riyu Tech: it's called mus client?
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riyu Tech: that's the one i have 
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riyu Tech: sphelp is not working for me
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Riyu: Does anything pop up when you type: checkversion
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, you don't have the Aardwolf MUSHClient version.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oh Fuuudge Kya Tech: Mush-Z is a specific Mush setup for another mud.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riyu Tech: You are using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r2129
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Riyu: https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/ --> Go to that link and download the non-visuals.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, so you ARE using.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riyu Tech: yep
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riyu Tech: the one from github?
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: spmute --> S P M U T E --> That should enable all sounds. but sphelp should work
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Riyu.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riyu Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And just making sure, you did download the 'non-visual' and not the 'full visual', correct?
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riyu Tech: correct
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Good. I don't have a lot of dealings with the non-visual side, but there are a few players who are able to help. If you type 'who blind', you might be able to get some help from those listed there. Tech is always a great place for help, too, especially when Fiendish is around.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riyu Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: is there a way to see stats with their maximum (buffs/eq/etc)
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can do the calculation.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: yea,  i see the formulats in help max stats, was just wonder if there was something in game that did the calculations
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No. Best you'll get is 'stats', which tells you what is allocated to each section.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: no plugins for it?  tyring to learn dinv and see what to set my priority to
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Bear in mind it's not 200 for eq and 200 from spells, but 200 from eq + spells (or rather, not 200, but level max)
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: you don't need to know the maximums to be able to set dinv. that's its purpose: to maximize your points, while taking into account the caps
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think Frurian is talking about finding where the deficit is.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: but if im already max dex with eq and spellups, i don't want to set dex as my first priority, right?
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: yes you do, if dex is your primary stat
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, that's the thing... you're only at max dex BECAUSE of EQ and spells.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: dinv handles that auto.  it won't equip a dex item if you are at max it will go to the next higher priority
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at A Calm Stormwind.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: it will not count the extra (above max) points of dex
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: hmm.. ok, thats great, so why then would i ever set my priority to anything different thatn what it defaults to?
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It looks at your cap and your stats, and says, "Okay, so this person only needs 15 to max dex, so I'll find a group of items that adds up to 15 dex (or as close as possible) and then work on str (or whatever the secondary stat is)"
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: you don't need it. but you might want to add some extra fields. for example: sanctuary, resists, shield
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's why it's very possible that wearing eq sets can change within the same level if your spells fluctuate that much.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: seems dinv already has premade sets, so for now im good to just use those?
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Like a lot of good programs, it comes with default settings.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: as I said above, you might want to add "sanctuary" some points in those sets, if you have aadr aura. other than that, the defaults are quite nice
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: is there a way to make it account for tier?  For example, when i do  "dinv set display thief 110," it shows my 100 axe, not my 120 axe.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: it takes tiers into account automatically.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: If you're ever asked for a level you use your current level not your tier adjusted level for example.  It does the calculation on its own.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: ok, ill see what it says when i hit 110 in 1 lvl, right now its showing the 100 axe.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: the "level" is effective level. so that 110 set is what you'll wear at 100
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: aah that makes sense, thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: so its telling me to wear pair of level 15 gauntlets (+1 dex, +2 DR) over some lvl 81 (+2 DR, +8 Dex, +3 magic, +5 physical)... no other hidden stats?
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I keep getting this error for going to origins using SnD: There was 1 match which I could not find a path to within 300 rooms:
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garrot Tech: Could be a maze room
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Means you don't have a custom exit set up somewhere.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: Do you have cexits set up, there are a ton in origins.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I can use rt orignis and it works.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or you're in a norecall/noportal room and to get to a recallable/portal room, you have to go through a maze.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I'm at recall
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Yep the first room in origins is reachable.  No other room in origins you can reach without a cexit.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes, because 'rt' uses the information under 'speedwalks origin'. As you can see, there is a custom exit before entering the area.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: You need to setup a custom exit for each portal from the first room.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: "speedwalk origins" to see any custom exits in the normal runto
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So you have to run to just before the area (use all the directions from recall in speedwalks origin), and stop before 'learn more', then make that custom exit.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: oh odd never saw the learn more part to origins.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Bear in mind that SnD does not manipulate any information that is found in 'mapper'. It simply looks at your 'mark' table, and whatever you have marked as the 'first room', SnD sends "mapper goto <room id>". Ergo, if you see errors that you cannot reach a room, it has nothing to do with SnD, but everything to do with how you have the mapper set up.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: That's what I thought was odd because I xset marked the end of the rt orgin as the start room, but then it wouldn't go there.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Adding the learn more made it work though, thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Mushclient questions answered now.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}One-Winged Macbeth Tech: any major upgrade you are working on for future releases of aard mushclient?
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yes?
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but I don't know what you mean by "major upgrade"
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}One-Winged Macbeth Tech: any insights to share
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}One-Winged Macbeth Tech: well basically just anything besides the usual bug fixes
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: should i mention the 3d project?
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: no, the 3d project is secret
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ill take that as a 'no' :p
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}One-Winged Macbeth Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but really this is just a hobby. I don't have a grand vision for the future. I just poke at it
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'm trying to make a plugin for having help files open in miniwindows
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mostly to find bugs in and improve the easy DIY miniwindows module
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: right now my biggest project is trying to make it easier for people to make their own plugins
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: pretty sure thats how the mcp got started.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: were prolly safe as long as noone invents a chess plugin.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: someone did that
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: a long time ago
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ah.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I forget who
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: there really should be a central registry of player plugins :(
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: the mcp already has it.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: is there a setting mushclient that allows you to click and drag the map to center? I thought i was able to do that at one point, but now i cant. Mine is off center a bit, and some of the larger maps go off screen until i zoom out tiny.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaker Anaristos Tech: clicking the title bar always allow one to drag a window
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: no, im talking about draging the contents inside the window to center
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Uh, I do not believe there is a way to drag the contents in the map itself around.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Does "look" up date the minimap, or only "map"?
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Autonomous Anymouse Tech: can test by blinding yourself, moving a room, cure blind then try 'look
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: it should update the gmcp map with exit information (since look returns gmcp data) and the ASCII map.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Er, not the ascii map
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Autonomous Anymouse Tech: if you mean ascii map
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sorry, that's done by 'map' alone.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Yeah the ASCII map. With the exclamation marks showing mobs, etc.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: was wondering if that updates if I type look
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: thanks all
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, only done by map alone.
T3/r7/2020-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tayter Tech: So I have an alias "portal *" and the first line is "get %1 ortal_bag". I have a variable named "portal_bag" with the id of my portal bag. I keep getting the message "You do not see a ortal_bag here." What am I doing wrong?
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: maybe it is named portal_bag? :D
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tayter Tech: It is, for some reason it didn't go through to the channel...
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tayter Tech: the and the p were missing.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tayter Tech: of the at symbol and the p were missing.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: did you check the "expand variables" option in the alias?
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tayter Tech: I will.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tayter Tech: That solved it. Thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: having some trouble figuring out DINV for my PSI.. I switched from thief to PSI and its selecting dex eq over int eq.  I ran a refresh and ran dinv priority create psi. What am i missing?
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: dinv set wear psi
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: yea, i did that after the priority create
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Maybe that's all you have?
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: dinv analyze
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i used eqsearch and bought everything on list
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Mage sure priority is created, then make sure analyze is created, then make sure any alias you used to wear eq is using dinv set wear <priority>
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: ran dinv priority create psi
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: and dinv analyze create psi.  Thought i did that, but will try again.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: to check you can dinv analyze display psi
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: tho to be faster I would dinv analyze create psi 10
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: yep it has "An Ear Trumpet" first over "eye of Horus"... ear trumput is a dex item
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: dinv priority edit psi --> make sure it's setup the way you expect it to be.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: are you sure the priority is correctly set? the 
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: it is, 1.5 for int, 1.0 for dex
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: what does the "10" do? for dinv analyze create psi 10?
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: it runs it every 10 levels instead of every level. speeds it up drastically.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: just 10 levels i think, its fast for me regardless so i don tneed it
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: unless you're changing eq every level it's only a benefit.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Also, depending on your available eq and the priority's values, not *every* item is going to be the item with the highest int. If your int is already maxed out from other items, for example, it would pick other things for a particular slot if able.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i was thinking that, so i wore the int item manually and my int went up, so im not maxed i dont htink
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: that's a good point but him being level 133 is highly unlikely he has max int.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I simply "dinv set wear <priority>" (pre-mastery) or "dinv weapon <priority> <damtype>" (after mastery). never had any issues with it, regardless of classchanges/tiers
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: post the stats of both items?
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: im not sure how
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: dinv report tech item <id>
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: An Ear Trumpet [L131 ear] : DR6 Dex9 Res13 MN30 MV-60 
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: the Eye of Horus Earring [L131 ear] : DR8 Int8 Res12 
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: can't be DR then either... that is very odd. do you have points into resistances?
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: nope
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: even tried a rebuild
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: are you sure you're not overmax in int? what does "stats" say (after spellup)
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: 317
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: no, I mean "totals" and the line below it
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: yea, 317 total int
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: if i remove the trumpet and equip the horus, it goes to 325
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: type dinv analyze display psi ear
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: go over that list to see when it uses/doesn't use those items.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: it uses the trumpet over the horus every level it has listed
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: hrm Might want to ping Durel then I've exhausted everything I can think of =(
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Increase the value of int and/or decrease that of dex? Or add a high-ish to high value for maxint.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: k, ill try that
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: how much int do yhave (trained)?
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: 190
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: im still learning all that stuff..i may have over pumped it.  str-75, 190-int, 134-wis, 75-dex, 75-con, 85-luck are natural stats
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: the max for you is 190+133+5(?)
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: if so, that would put me very close to that
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: Dinv takes max/overmax/caps into account as well
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: wear that item and tell me the 2 values from "stats" (for the int column). total and the one below it
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: 325/325
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: and without it 323?
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: so, dinv does the right thing: 8 dex is a hell lot better than 2 int :)
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: ok, so with no earrings on, i have 317/317
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: 333/333 with both Horus earrings on
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: 317/317 with both trumpet earrings on
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: my max is 333
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I don't get it. that would mean 144 int from spellup/eq, at lvl. 133
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: if i take all the dex stuff off, and wear all the int, it says 333/384, so i guess DINV is thinking dex is better even though im not quite at max int
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: if thats what im suppose to be, who am i to argue!
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: you can look at the priority weights, most of the default priorities do weight for dex
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: oh, sorry, you're ppsi, you get +10 extra int, after the mage remort, not +5. maybe dinv doesn't account for that? though I doubt it
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: because dex helps with your melee dmg and incoming dmg reduction, balhblah. you can adjust priorities. just basing my general trust in dinv in 1000s of levels. dinv 100% does account for pclass bonuses i ngeneral. 
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: yep... i'll roll with this and see how it goes.  I have a lot to learn on the PSI... only played warrior and thief so far
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: thanks a bunch for the help!
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Wait if you wear the int item do you gain the -full- int benefit if you're close to max it's likely only going to account for the point of int that take you to max.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: both Horus earrings are +8 int, that gives me 16, which is exactly 333 (my max)
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: So... I'm pretty sure the answer is no, but is there a way to purge a room of cexits without 1.) being in the room 2.) using the nifty right click option on the map? something like mapper delete cexits <roomid>
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: purge area?
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: Hehe, I guess that would work.. just not looking forward to remapping the area :P
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You could open up the database and perform an SQL query to delete the cexits.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: I think remapping the area is much easier than learning sql >.>... though I need to learn sql one day.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: If you're going to remap the area,why not just go to the room and mapper delete cexits?
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The sql query isn't too had, really.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Areia.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: 'mapper cexits here' -- go to the first room, delete, then go from there.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: tried that.. i'm thinking it might be some goal room. Whatever the room is I can't seem to find a way to it. It's in darklight. 19676
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: it is a goal room
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia nods at Princess Alison.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: so it doesn't matter if there's a cexit there
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: you will never reach it in normal play again :)
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: It's going to mess with me >.>
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: gonna purge that place!
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: if it bothers you, purge and remap.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: darklight is not a huge area so it should be fairly easy.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Braun nods at Princess Alison.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Make sure you reset explored in that area, too, so that you know you've mapped all the rooms.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: goal rooms are noexplore right?
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: Not always
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Not all of them.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sometimes. Not always.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: in theory, you could lock yourself out of 100% explore forever?
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: nod
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: hm, I would argue that should be fixed
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: the only time I've reset explored was in yurgach for the goal task, so I'm not too worried about it msyelf
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: Nod, Minos too! 
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I didn't have to reset explored for minos luckily
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I just did it once and it was fine
T3/r7/2020-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone play around with any of my plugins and the set command? wanted to get some feedback on ease of use
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: so I added "recall" and "home" to my portals list and set them to "mapper portalrecall" but if you go to for example "Trapped in Quicksand (34793)" and run mapper goto 32418 (aylor recall room), recalling doesn't seem to be an option mapper gives the "I could not find a path to within 300 rooms"...
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: sounds like a no-recall room with no standard exits
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: so probably need either a cexit or a portal.
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: It's a recall room. You can do "recall" and get back to aylor or clan recall (depending). It's a no portal room.
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: I just don't think mapper sees it as such... I get the feeling that it sees my "mapper portal recall" and "mapper portalrecall <recallindex>" as still a portal...
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: you can check with mapper portals. if it's a "recall" portal it should be red.
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: Yep. It is.
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: also check that the room isn't accidentally flagged as norecall?
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: It should be fine. It's only flagged noportal by mapper.
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: do you have your bouncerecall set?
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: BOUNCERECALL: Not currently set.
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: set it.
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: You're my hero! It worked! Thank you so much!
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garrot Tech: Using pwars SnD and wanting to backup the mobdatabase. Any idea which file I need to copy?
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered now
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: is there a shortcut to open keypads configuration window?
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: trying to create a simple plugin (lots to learn.)  Is there any docs or guides on how to inject LUA code into XML for plugins?  I know there is a "script" area, but following your DIY windows guide, I couldn't get a simple plugin working.
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Shift+Control+1
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Greybeard ^, but also if you go to the Game menu, under Configure you should see all the shortcuts listed on the right side of the dropdown next to the configuration screen name
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can find shortcuts by looking at the menu option itself...the right-side of it tells you what the shortcut is
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what abelinc said
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Furian: Ah, umm...that's an excellent question. I don't know if I have a good guide for plugins from scratch. One sec.
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I can tell you where to look for examples though until I find something or put something together...
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but for the Lua code, yeah you just put it into the big bottom section, and you call the functions from within whatever you need to
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: haha "the big bottom section" may be insufficient
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i have a template file i made one time (just exported one of everything from the wizard) and now i just update it for what i need
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: that would be great... once i can figure out the bare basics, i think my learning will go a little faster
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: alright everyone, let me at least point to examples first
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for all the plugins I've made, I started by copying an existing plugin file which was roughly the same "style" of what I was looking to do, and opened the copy in my text editor
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that gives all the essential elements, including windowing, aliases, triggers, and GMCP initialization
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Furian: first, there are two ways to inject script code into the plugin. 1) the <send> block in the xml for the alias/trigger/timer itself, 2) the <script> block for the whole plugin
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: here's an example of #1: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/worlds/plugins/aard_ASCII_map.xml#L35-L40
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: send_to="12" means Send to Script
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: and then the <send></send> section is identical to what you would have in a trigger or alias made through the GUI
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: my first plugin i just want to take "score" and put it in a window
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: personally, I think the send block is ugly and icky unless it's a 1-liner
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: here's an example of #2:   https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/worlds/plugins/aard_ASCII_map.xml#L50    and     https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/worlds/plugins/aard_ASCII_map.xml#L213-L214
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: similar to your stats window, and basts stat window, but i want the entire score
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the send block would be less bad if I ever remembered to use CDATA on it
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: note that in #2 example, after all my trigger/alias stuff there's a giant <script></script> section that contains a bunch of code. this is where plugin callback functions have to go like OnPluginInstall OnPluginClose etc
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: and the `script="reset_aard"` in my alias says "call the reset_aard function found in my script section"
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: cool, thank you for the examples.  I'll copy this down (and everyone elses suggestions.)
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i think this is a simple question.  i have an alias ^hello\s([a-zA-Z]{1,12})$  and i want to capture what's in [a-zA-Z]{1,12} as an input.  what/where do i need to add to do this please?  i think a question mark and or something else is needed somewhere, but i don't know exactly where.
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: put it in parens so it counts it as a group.
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's 2 main ways that you can do what you want, furian. One is fast and pretty easy, and the other is much more flexible but needs more setup...for fast/easy, you could copy a script file like my Aard Room Objects Miniwin, and just change "roomobjs" to "score"....
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: also in my example of #2, the CDATA part is pretty important (I'll explain why in a sec) and CDATA and <script> are closed out down at the bottom here https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/worlds/plugins/aard_ASCII_map.xml#L978-L979
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the CDATA open/close is important because plugins are run through an XML parser before they go to the Lua interpreter, and XML has funny rules about what you're allowed to write because of potential conflicts (like XML doesn't like "<" because all of the tags start with < and it could mean the start of a tag)
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I really should put CDATA in my example for #1 but I almost always forget to
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: and CDATA says "this part is not XML"
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok it works as it. thank you.
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the more flexible way, instead of literally capturing score output as-is, you could build the output how you want it by putting each of the values that score holds into an output window that looks how you want it to look. Nearly all of those values exist in GMCP, so you wouldn't even need to send the score command to create the output
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: first way seem pretty easy... ill try that first, but ultimately its my way of trying to learn, so i'll write my own as well
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: abelinc is your plugin themedZ?
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, all my miniwin plugins started out by copying your ascii map plugin from 2012
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so they have the z-order and reset stuff, but not themed
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mousie Tech: hey what's a good download for 3 moons? I'd love to get a plugin for that installed. 
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: with dinv how do i compare an item to a potential slot throughout the mort while wearable
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: see "dinv help compare"
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: "dinv help compare" will tell you how a piece you currently have will be used.  You can also "dinv help covet" to check if a market/auction item will help and how it would affect your sets at each level.
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: how do you handle cexits that require a mob kill for key?
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: you can add a timer onto the cexit
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: cool, ty
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: how to should be in the same helpfile as setting up the cexit
T3/r7/2020-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I think you have to ener kill commands on mobs mannually, like triggers and cexit kill commands is illegal.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Yeah, using any aggressive command in a trigger or even in a DoAfter or wait etc. is very very bad. Don't do that.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I went from 1080P 8x QCSAA to 1440P 4x anti-analising, its looks marvelous now, no jaggies at all, and textures looks so crisp.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: now run 4k raytraced
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Can GMCP obtain the room id of the room you're in?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Oh Em Gee, do you have Punk yet?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: If not, what's the best way of getting that info?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: gmcp("room.info.num")
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Thanks, apparently it can :)
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grasshacker Tech: afaik, that's the only way to get it.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: In theory you could write a dumb regex for mapper thisroom but this is MUCH easier :P
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Wouldn't work, mapper thisroom is all prints.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Cyberpunk 2077
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I'm thinking of making an alias that grabs the current room's id and sets it to a variable, and then another alias that runs to the room id of the variable I set it to.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: To set a sort of waypoint you can run back to. I was inspired by Ruhamah's similar functionality
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Quake
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Lol Quake
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gilduran )
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: But I don't want my clannies to have to pay for it, so I'll write my own and give it to them. :D
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Quake II?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Heh, atleast Quake 2 man.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Heh, atleast Quake 3 man.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Wolfenstein 3D?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Zork?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ZzZzZz buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: It's what I've got in my floppy catalog
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: 5.5 not 3.5
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Dont give away your age :P
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: I probably already have
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Well, I started on 3,5 floppy.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I am not much younger.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: The fact I know there's a 5.5, and not just a 3.5 floppy may have given it away
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ZzZzZz crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Those were to golden good old days.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: 3.5? you missed 5.25s ? :)
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Yup, I was playing with marbles then 8)
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: lol, it was 5.25, not 5.5
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: but, yeah, I did not miss out on those
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Les Esc Argot Tech: I remember back when we had to use a bunch of trees to send some strong signals around
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: I remember having to walk to my friends house to check to see what their status was
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: Or calling their house on a landline, having to ask their mom if they were outside or not :)
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: How about rotary phones
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gilduran rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Though, admitedly(sp), I was on the tail end of rotary phones
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: my granny had some old yellow one. Took me forever to use.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Anyone else remember AOHell?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: lol
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ZzZzZz chuckles at SNEAKER Mushambo's joke.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: is AIM still around? That was easy to use. These new apps confuse me
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: AIM? Is that an Instant Messanger app?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: Yes and yes it is! but then Id have to figure out Wine because its windows only. so thats not happening tonight :) Remember when it took like 20 minutes to download an mp3 through napster?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Les Esc Argot grins evilly at SNEAKER Mushambo.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Remember when it felt like it took nearly that long for your 14.4 baud modem to connect?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: or "gasp" your 2400 baud modem
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Them's were the days!
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: wow I didnt start at 2400, i was 9600. played games on a 286 it was FUN. now i guess theres emulators and stuff but I cant figure that out
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: DOS or Windows 3.1? Or were you Unix/Linux?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: started on Dos. Then win 3.1. Still like XP the best, but I have to figure out virtual machines too. Only Linux system Ive been able to use is this pop_os 
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: VM's are great!
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Does the number 2600 mean anything to you?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: Yeah that version was good too :)
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Atari?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: misread it, yes that number means something to me. My buddy was instrumental. I watched him fall through the roof of my HS because he was the only one daring enough to run ethernet in the roof
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: lets all order some captain crunch :)
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: There ya go!
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Falling through roofs sucks, though, too
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: So many young people I know have know idea what 2600 means
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: I'm looking for a spellup script. Suggestions?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Pwar's
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: finger pwar, download the plugin manager, type ppm, click install spellup
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: everything else handles itself
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: unfortunately I have to suggest Pwar's as well.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: why unfortunately?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: Thanks. 
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: because he doesn't maintain it and his plugins looks like he just let the cat run across the keyboard for a few days and then somehow managed to sort of get it to work, so fixing it is less than enjoyable.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: heh, messy code then?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 404 Eroe cowers in a corner and whimpers softly.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I have one that I'm working on, too, anyway. :p
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 404 Eroe looks at (Aleister) Crowley and swoons in ecstasy.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah pwars spellup is unfinished, he put in half the code to do spells with delay but never finished it
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: What's a quick way to list all the clans that ever existed in the game, including disbanded or inactive ones?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i had to put in a hack to make the plugin cast ranger totem guidance for me
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'd probably go to the aard wiki
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Ah, great idea, Menda.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Or search the help files, like help search clan
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm thinking more: "gossip I bet nobody is smart enough to tell me all the clans that have ever existed here!"
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: yeah I did help search clan but it was too many files
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: help disbanded
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: can do help disbanded and clist
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah that would also be good.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: reverse psychology on a Monday, how thoughtful.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: clist plus help disbanded?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: The only clans to ever exists were baal, loqui, crimson, and rhabdo.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Naw, if you're going to use that strategy, durel, you should go "gossip The only disbanded clans in aardwolf are shadokil and dragon. Prove me wrong." and watch the answers flood in!
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: See, Menda is doing it right now.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Repeat every few hours until no one corrects you.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: how does one figure out an error in mapper path? runto trying to go through private rooms in estates
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: you can lock the exit with level 999
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Do 'mapper where <room id>' then walk it step by step.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: get the room # you are trying to go to and then from recall do:  mapper where room#
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Yeah, write out the path yourself, see where it's going wrong, and remap/apply copious use of lockexit accordingly
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: i scroll up till i find the room that messed up then mapper find roomname and go there
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Someone mentioned that Amazon (I think) changed their exits, so that might have something to do with it.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Galoth: That's silly to do.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: well i am silly
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i see the path, but how to get target room number?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: How are you speedwalking there in the first place?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, where were you trying to run to before?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: its s&d
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Depending on whose version... Mine shows the room number you're running to.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not silly to do, it's often the quickest way to see the issue
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: oh yea... isee it now
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: irecall
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I recall a time they found those fossilized mosquitoes and before long, they were cloning DNA...
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: areas like chessboard have a portal into them at the end, gotta scroll back then make the cexit for it
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: They were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think about whether or not the they should!
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley beams with pride at [Outlaw] Mendaloth.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i see path, but if i follow it manually, it just leads me right up to the private room. 
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Now I'm beign chased by some irate velociraptors... well believe me, this has been one lousy day...
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So you need to delete the exit to that private room.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: there isn't one, but maybe there is one after the private room?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: Jurassic Park is frightening in the dark
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: How does it lead you to the private room if there is no exit TO the private room?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly at PenguinGod Galoth.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: OOH, i see what you man, delete exit, not cexit
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ding ding ding! :p
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: that worked, thank you!
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley smiles happily.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: is the mapper DB editable outside of mushclient (is it accessdb, mysql, etc?) I have some exits setup that get keys from bag from a while ago, and i'd like to delete them all at once.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: use a sqlite db editor
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: excellent, thank you
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can, but I'd advise against making too drastic changes to it.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I use db browser (sqlite) myself.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: thats what i jsut downloaded
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: is there a plugin template somehere i can download?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: were just talking about that lst night, let me find what fiendish said,i copied it all
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: cool
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i was hoping someone might have that
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i dont think he has a specific blank template, but gave some examples of what to use.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: also i note most plugins had an id for example  id="ef4a86dbc9cd4dd6f4c69386", where does that come from how do i generate one for a new plugin i want to code?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There's no such thing as a 'template' for it.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: generate unique ID is in the edit menu within MUSHclient
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can generate your own plugin by writing triggers and aliases in MUSHclient, then using the plugin wizard to export those triggers and aliases and then that's your 'template'.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: in the plugin editor?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yeah i like Crowley's suggestion
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But if you want any idea of how to write a plugin from scratch, all you need to do is open up any of the various plugins available and copy its format.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yes crowley i could do that but i was wopndering if someone had a blank format i could use to write one from scratch
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: this is what he said about it when i asked, let me know if you can get to it.  https://pastebin.com/pqG0n0dp
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: you can also type this into command line here \\\Note(GetUniqueID())
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: but yes i can open one and delete all the specific code i don't need
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Selitos: There isn't any one "format" that you can use, though. That's the problem, since it can be written in various ways.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But essentially, for aliases, you need to encase them between <aliases></aliases> tags, triggers are <triggers></triggers>, same for timers and whatnot.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yup thats what i'd start a temple with all those things laid out with 'put all your aliases here' wetc
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i can figure it out, was just wondering
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: and yes furian i got your pastebin, thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrecking Havvoc Tech: does anyone have experience using blowtorch im struggling to add custum exits
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'd point to Shindo, but he's not online at the moment.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wrecking Havvoc Tech: yeah his the first one i looked for
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I knew a year or so ago, but since I am on Mush now, I wanted to forget all that.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Trying to remember now.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Its all on Shindos site, explained in a readme text file. Its not difficult I remember.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: I got my microsoft visual studio to compile cuda toolkit samples
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: 4000 giga flops/second
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: I bet that used to be a million dolla super computer
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: altho punch cards used to be a super computer
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: shifty eyes dart back and forth
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: 2020 years ago they had the abacus
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: Im trying to figure out how to get aardwolf into cuda memory, cores
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: a browser too
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: all I see so far is like malloc and freeking pointers :(
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: on occasion with S&D where is showing no "xxx mobname" around here.  But, if i do a where "mobname," without adjective manually it gives me the room.  Seems its always associated with the adjective
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Which S&D version are you using?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Which adjective is it not firing on?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: 4.61, one by our one and only Crowley
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: He's using mine.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: lonely in this case
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Ohhh a wild crowley appears, I bow out he knows a bit more about it than me lol
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ah. That's because sometimes 'lonely' is a keyword, sometimes it's not.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: ive seen it on others, maybe its just lonely... didn't notice, but i'll check next time. 
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: SnD is designed to weed out common words not listed as keywords, like 'a', or 'an' or 'the'. But there are mobs that have adjectives as keywords (small dwarf, scrawny titan), and some mobs that don't.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: When I get around to updating SnD with the mob database (almost done, and Christmas break is here, so that's a blessing), you'll have the ability to modify it directly.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: nice
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: is there a way to switch next target from your CP to quest? normally i do quests immediately, but sometimes i lick a CP mob and then im off to the manuals
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: xq will reload quest target.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: and there it is, right in the readme :P  thanks Crowley
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: can anyone confirm a report about "Sergio" being behind cyberattacks ? Ive known a Sergio personally, I know the song Dear Sergio, but I need to relay the info from you eggheads :)
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: IS there a way to write an alias that checks the output it gets without writing a trigger?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: eg. alias that attacks a mob, and if the mob returns "* is immune to mental damage!" then it switches weapons
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No... because it needs to trigger off a message to know what to do.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: nod
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: I use wait.regexp for that sort of thing.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: alias that enables trigger-> switches-> disables trigger
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Or that.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: actualy sounds like magor scripting
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Yeah Dixon, that's roughly what I was doing. but it seemed a tad inelegant.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: that's because it is
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dixon snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I'll see what I can do. Thanks for the consult. :)
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Thankfully you only need the one trigger.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: yeah, you could bundle it all into just one trigger and one alias
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: it's not that bad tbh
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: ya if immune * wear !*
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just don't listen to Sivak.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dixon chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: or you could just create a database of mob/weapon combination :D but that sounds like more work
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: That sounds like way more work. Easier to just use mapper notes to remind me at that point.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: just do an sql query every time you attack a mob
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: sounds fun
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: ...why every time you attack? :)
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: cuz that's what makes it fun
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: what if aardwolf came out with a ditto type mob? Just shapshifts randomly
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Maybe because they bought a very powerful processor but only play MUDs on it, so they wanna show off :D
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Evine, I believe there are some epic mobs that shapeshift vulnerabilities
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I can't remember who off the top of my head, I want to say Shade in IF2
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: There are indeed. A very few, but they're there.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: I bought this processor so I could edit video and compute against COVID...
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: n
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: is it possible for winkles spellup to not include power projection when I type spellup?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can type 'forgets power projection' and you'll never cast it with spellup again.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Then you can manually cast it yourself.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: perfect thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It /should/ work that way with Winkle. You may need to delete it from a list though.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Seems like it worked
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: i use mudrammer on my ipad, and it will not easily display a ' because the iOS keyboard tries to use smart apostophes or something
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: the online help suggests changing from ASCII to UTC-8
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: but when i do that, it doesnt seem to work any better
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: anyone solve this?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: if i type an apostrophe without using the special character bar built into the client, i get a question mark
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: sorry, i referenced the wrong alternative
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: You could send smart quotes to the MUD by changing MUDRammer?s encoding in MUDRammer Settings -> Advanced -> Encoding to a unicode encoding like UTF-8. MUDRammer will now send those characters correctly, but if the MUD does not support unicode, the MUD still won?t recognize those characters. You should check with your MUD to be sure.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: i follow those instructions and instead of a question mark, i get an a with an accent mark
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: does aard not support a diff encoding than ASCII?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: anyone know where mapper stores its info? I'm using two computers, but when I copied the worlds folder and script folder, the mapper didn't keep rooms explored updated.
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: thanks, I'll look for it :)
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Oh, there it is => main folder
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasur Tech: it usually is in the root mushclient folder where mushclient.exe is
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: would aardwolf.db be the only folder in mush client root to copy over?
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Hmmm, I get an error when I copy aardwolf.db over. Guess I'll have to explore twice :)
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: personally i just put my mushclient on dropbox so i can access it where i need it
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: that's a good idea
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: then i never log out, so i never need it anywhere
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: with the aard layout features, you can even just have it swap window layouts for each system (e.g., have a work laptop layout, a home computer layout, etc.)
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: wow! I'll have to look into those layout features
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasur Tech: on the layout side, I mud on a laptop that is connected to an external screen. Use 1080p on the external but when I travel I have to use the laptop screen which is only 1366x768. Is it possible to have 2 different layouts on the same system so I dont have to mess about with miniwindows all the time? (travel fairly often for work)
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: see "aard layout help" for more info.  Basically, you can move your windows where you want and take a snapshot of that with "aard layout save [name]".  You can save as many layouts as you want.  You can then restore back to one of the saved layouts with "aard layout restore [name
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You can also "lock" windows into place so you don't accidentally move them around with "aard layout [lock|unlock]".  It's quite handy
T3/r7/2020-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kasur Tech: many thanks indeed
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: In lua can one have an array with in an array? {{A,1,"false"},{B,2,"true"}) ?
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course, as you add more levels it gets more confusing and trickier to keep your references straight
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: Braun that is how i do my scripts, i just watch how deep i go because it does get confusing
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: anyone available for some help?
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: It depends what your problem is.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DoNotBurn Brun Tech: girl trouble!
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I can not log onto the mud unless I use my hotspot on my phone. My wifi will not let me know. I have been all day and then it knocked me off.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: let me now
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I have tried resetting the modem
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: what os are you using?
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: windows
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: type cmd in the search bar and click on command prompt.  type in "ping aardmud.org" and hit enter.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: Was it able to connect?
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: It didn't say connect...it did come back with some information
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: there should be line: packets sent = ? received = ? lost = ? (?%loss)
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: what was the loss%
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: sent 4 recieved 4 none lost
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: 0%
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: hmm, so you can connect via ping but you're client wont.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: not on wifi...just on my hotspot
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: Oh, I thought you were using a phone client.  Didn't realise you were using your phone as a hot spot.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: My router isn't wireless. I have to fun it to a wireless modem. I only restarted the main modem...but not the wireless. 
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I am sorry...no I don't usually use my phone hotspot. It was just the only way I could get one. I even tried with mudrammer and I had to take it off wifi that way too
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I use my tablet to tehter to PC, I find it less problematic then Hotspot.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Sorry...it logged me off L(
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: so you couldn't connect to aard on your home connection no matter what device you used
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Its Like plug and play, no problems at all.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: correct
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Sounds like a windows setting.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Even on my phone?
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: In network and connection centre.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok...let me look at it
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: The easiest next step is factory reseting your router but even that is a pain.  It might also be at the isp level which is even more of a pain.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok...Let me play around with some things...thank you
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: Sorry, I'm not sure what else to do.  You have me stumped.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Not a problem...I appreciate you trying
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Hope you fix it.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Man! This is the second time SnD has lost room info! It's like areas have been deleted, but they still show up in mapper as explored.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's only doing it on ROOMS, not areas?
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Whole areas are missing, gone all red after gq ch.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Try xset index areas. Hopefully though it won't be an issue in the near future.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I tried xset index areas, but that didn't fix it. Reload the SnD plugin?
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Are you using cloud storage to switch between your computers? (I believe you mentioned that you play off 2 computers)
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: No, I copied from the main computer, but didn't change the main computer.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Try reloading the plugin, then. I'm not sure what your particular issue is, though. :(
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: yeah, seems odd! Thanks for the plugin though, love it!
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: What's odd is that the campaign areas are all good (white links), but the global quest info is all red links.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, in the updated version, I'm changing how it indexes areas. I hope it fixes the issues with it.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Ooh! When does the update come out?
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not sure. Trying to get it out sooner rather than later, but I've been saying that for a couple months. Just life and school got in the way. :p
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hopefully over this Christmas break.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Yeah, they have a way of doing that! :)
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Crowley: On another gquest and SnD is working fine :)
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Good!
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Yeah, so much smoother!
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: just started getting this - Trigger function "cp_check_cannot_get_new_cp" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What did you try to do right before that happened? You can reload SnD to fix it, but would like to know how you got that error.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: well, remember that DB stuff we talked about yesterday? I removed the "get all bag" lines... but, I did back up the DB, and i restored the file.  still there
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: From the mapper database?
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: yea
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: I got that message a while back, I wasn't sure if it was because I was messing with the html or something but it might also have something to do with already having a campaign active when the plugin is loaded or something
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: but it went away after a while lol :D
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nah, I've had campaigns active when restarting / reloading SnD.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i was thinking that, so i waited till i finished that campaign then started a new one
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just reload SnD, then. If it comes up again, let me know the steps you took that produced that message.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'll have to look at the code itself to see what produces that error, too.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: yea, that fixed it
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: ty
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: Crowley do you have a more up-to-date version of SnD? I've been using Winkle Winkle's so wanted to check in
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Mine is the most up-to-date version out there, yes.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It doesn't have the mob database yet (I have the code, just have to move it over to SnD), but it is easy to update, too.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: What is mob database and will it be in new SnD ?
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Mob database saves the mobs you've killed from cps and quests and gqs. And yes, it will be in the new SnD.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I understand, ty. But how will it improve my SnD?
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: oh lol you're winkle winkle?
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, currently, SnD just says, "Hey, let's hunt trick and find this mob!" It works, but it's not as efficient. So, in the new update, SnD will say, "Have we killed this mob before? What room has it been found in the most? Let's check there." and then goes from there.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm not WinkleWinkle.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Nice
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: got it, do you have a link to your SnD?
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: help snd ;)
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pestallel Tech: finger crowley
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: boom thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, did you check out the code I wrote to solve your cypher? :P
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley starts to hear the faint sounds of a cricket chirping.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Makes me want to write cyphers now, heh.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i just bought one of the lua udemy classes... cant wait to get started, if i can ever pull myself away from CPs (and work of course)
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There are SO many free tutorials out there, though. :P
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: yes, i know... ive been wanting to do this a long time, and i find that the written stuff i have trouble stickign to. I need a class type env. it was only 18$ :P
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: lol nice job! I just pulled together something on excel, but if I did code it, it'd probably be in java or python. :) I just loaded in a prime number table, calculating it works but I hate calculating primes lol!
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers with Evine about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Furian: https://hackr.io/tutorials/learn-lua --> Some helpful links to aid with class.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddly Adarax Tech: is there a way to set rooms norecall/noportal without having to do thisroom to get the id?
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: on mushclient?
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddly Adarax Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: read mapper help portals
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: once you have recon and a newish version of mushclient it automagically sets itself
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Only when you recon, Shindo.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddly Adarax Tech: yeah i know, but alot of times it moves me before it can automatically set the flags
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that is why if you are in an area like that you can now spam recon in all the rooms OR try your luck with just using a portal and word of recall
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: just starting to work with DINV, can someone help me with the dinv organize command? I keep on getting Container relative name "bag" did not have a unique match for a container" when trying dinv organize add bag type potion
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Try using 1.bag (or 2.bag, 3.bag, etc)
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: still not getting a unique match for a container
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: what's the container?
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: bag of aardwolf
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ids are unique, you can also add your unique keyword (but that costs TPs)
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You've done dinv build confirm first?
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not relevant to the situation, Trachx. :p
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: I did, though I got the bag afterwards. I ran dinv refresh though
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I've noticed when you mentioned "dinv" part
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Do dinv refresh all, Evine.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Then try it again.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: that did it... do you refresh dinv periodically?
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Crowley: shouldn't roomnote return notes for the current area in SnD?
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's helpful to do dinv refresh all when you get new items that you are interested in keeping.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: when you get new stuff or die >.>
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: got it lol. Thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Torsin: only when you do: roomnote area
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Ok, thanks! I knew I'd gotten it to work before :)
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: how do you give a trigger a "name" in muschlient?
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: iirc it goes in label
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: There should be a field marked "label"
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: duh, thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: and then you can use EnableTrigger("nameoftrigger(,0|1) to turn it on or off
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: precisely why i needed it, thanks :)
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: with s&d... click mob, went to area, clicked mob again, clicked the room, when i got there, it said "nothing to see around here with that name", but mob was in room. It happens on occasion, but relatively rare
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Some mobs are nohunt mobs.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And some are noscan.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: aah ok
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And some are nowhere mobs.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And some are all three.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and some mobs sing a sad old song, like bad c&w lyrics
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Those are fairly rare so you can add a mapper note to the start of the area telling you where they are. Some SnD versions also remember mobs it's seen and can tell you where you saw the mob last 
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hush! I'm working on it! :P
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i look forward to it!
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: can I use dinv to grab stuff but only from a specific bag?
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: use rloc #.bag yes
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: dinv get type weapon rloc 3.bag, for example
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: nice thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkSobek Tech: Anyone have a good PUP tracker and/or gold gained tracker?
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: finger hadar I use his pup tracker, it think he has a gold tracker too.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: Hadar is working on the gold tracker. He also has an Exp Tracker.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: im currently working on mine, should be out in a couple of days
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: or the new version should be out
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkSobek Tech: Thanks Hadar, will keep an eye out for the new version!
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: lol, check hadar, check hadar, hey there folks i'm hadar
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: thats what happens when like all of your plugins are trackers lol
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: Thanks for making a good plugin hadar.
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: His next tracker will be how many times reference his tracker on the tech channel tracker...
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: and the one after that will be a tracker asker predicter. so he can premiptivly advertise it before someone asks
T3/r7/2020-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: also if you dont like the default look of my plugins you can use a command to change it without having to edit any code!
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: any tips for debugging: [script file] contains an invalid path. ?
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: moved my old script file to a new pc/new mushclient installation
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what's the exact error
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: how do i make a timer go off every hour? on the hour, would i need to set up 1 for each hour of the day? atm im using timer hour = "1" at_time="y" but nothing
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: are you using mushclient?
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Why not just add a timer using MUSH funcitonality?
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: add timer -> every interval -> 1 hour
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: awww DarkSobek is offline anyone else wanna help me test my gold trackers new version?
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: convert it to blowtorch then yea
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: but but but ... i dont touch blowtorch
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pestallel Tech: is there any way to turn OFF the xset of noexp, so that there are no more messages and it doesn't autobadically manage the noexp flag? if i xset noexp 0, I still get double messages saying that it's set to 0
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pestallel Tech: this message: "Noexp is currently enabled. Threshold is set to 0 exp." is there a way to completely disable that particular function?
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i believe its xset noexp off
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: can anyone point me to the most simplest of plugins that use data from GMCP, and has a window?  Something like a quest ready window, or similar (like bast had, but his have a lot of dependencies)
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The statmon window that comes with AardMUSH.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: thats a 30k file :P
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Easy-DIY-Miniwindows
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes, but it has the window, uses GMCP, and written by Fiendish, so...
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: fiendish made miniwindows easier
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hadar, not what he's asking.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: He wants a simple plugin that has a window and uses GMCP data.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I thought he was asking for a simple plugin so he could learn to do miniwins honestly.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i saw that hadar, and tried to just create some static windows at first, but having issues... jsut trying to find something can look at thats small, as a baseline to learn
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i know he is asking to see a plugin, but he goes over a lot of that on the website, there are no simple plugins that i know of that have that with the new easy window code
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: are you on the newiest version of mushclient?
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: This is true. Still, the "simplest" will be the statmon window. Or maybe the group monitor window.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: yep
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: Furian, i believe Fiendish made a tutorial for his new easy miniwindow system
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I was thinking masaki's third eye.  it's nothing but a mini win printing stuff to it
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: third eye doesn't use gmcp.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: oh dur
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: where are you stuck?
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: actually i may have just found the issue with my first little test of a plugin
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: if all else fails can always post to github and someone can walk you through stuff and things
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: pastebin not github
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: yea, my issues are in the plugin section of the xml, so i think i can fix that. I'll try with the statmon plugin and try to slim it down to more simple and working. Thanks guys.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: module 'themed_miniwindows' not found:  ....  its in the Musclient
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: oops 
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i already fixed that
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: are there any docs on how GMCP integrates with the plugin?  For example, im trying to understand how to get say current Strength from GMCP and spit it out in my window (which i finally got working.)  I see that i require gmcphelper, but not sure how to declare a variable for strength, or that is already done?
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: the wiki page deals with those structures
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: and also http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaker Anaristos Tech: anyone has played with iSCSI to target a NAS?
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elrath Tech: Hey, Link recommended I ask here about creating a specific trigger I was looking for. I am using the Aardwolf-optimized version of MUSHClient, and I would like to set it up so that the "kill" command casts my strongest attack spell rather than attacking physically, as it makes more sense for me being a caster type. Anyone willing and able to help with advice?
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, you can do that manually.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you can set a variable with the name of your strongest attack spell, and then have your alias use that variable
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Easiest way is to do: alias kill c 'neural overload' --> for example.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The way Sath is talking about is a bit more involved, though.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elrath Tech: Awesome, thanks a lot!
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: oh, I guess that's easier, but will require going into the aliases dialog every time you want to change it
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: but definitely easier
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Doing it the way I explained, you'll have to update it when you get a new spell, but that'll work for you just fine.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elrath Tech: Thanks so much, guys!
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: No it won't. It's just a mudside alias.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sath: no dialog. Just typing 'alias kill c spear' or 'alias kill c heavenly', etc.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Er, that was in reply to Sath :P
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: oh yeah I guess the game also has built-in aslies
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Areia.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: or aliases or whatever :P
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I'm just in a coding state of mind
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: I wonder if you could code when your are on acid trip.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: whats a good way to take a snapshot, about to do something that might bring down hadar.ninja and want to have a backup i can restore to if i do (basically uninstalling nginx to install a different nginx)
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: on linux (ubuntu)
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: yay sucessfully broke it!
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Hadar: just as I was looking something up! I hope the fix is easy on you.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, I just bought a network attached storage so I can migrate my Plex to it. This will be a fun project. Will mean no more downtimes because of crappy laptops acting as servers...
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: who knows if it is, ill see how long hadar.ninja stays down lol
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Pfft. You should do all your breaking on a backup site, then migrate over when you know it works!
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: there is no thrill in that!
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: and its back because i fix
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: using hadar's gold tracker for the first time and i got this 23 Dec 17:00:10 - (Group) Scars: '[GoldTracker] Last Hour we got ${goldin} and spent ${goldout} for a total of ${goldtotal}'
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: i clearly did something wrong
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: did a hgt fullreset
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: but what did i do wrong?
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: got my first plugin working (mostly)... its just a learning one, nothing pratical yet.  I can't figure out how to close the window when i diable or unload the plugin.  I have the functions (OnPluginClose, OnPluginDisable,) etc, but not sure how to identify the window
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaker Anaristos Tech: anyone around who knows anything about iSCSI?
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: the 4 drive or 2 drive ram burimg machine
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: How much is the level of anything you're looking for?
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaker Anaristos Tech: I am not setting up a VM, I have a physical 4TB wireless drive I want to I want to encrypt but can only do if I use iSCSI to connect it, but iSCSI has other thoughts...
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ask Robbo
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Typically enabling your iscsi initiator and connecting to a target is pretty simple.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaker Anaristos Tech: it refuses to recognize the drive as a target
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaker Anaristos Tech: I take that back. It always returns connection failed.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Hard to say without some kind of logging on either end, really.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Typically barring firewall configurations or incorrect secrets, there's not a whole lot to it.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaker Anaristos Tech: the windows event log shows an error code of 0X000FF3
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaker Anaristos Tech: no secrets
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: I can't say I'd really recommend iSCSI + wireless - connection issues could cause hangs on your PC.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Not enough detail on your error message, unfortunately.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaker Anaristos Tech: the IP address is valid so iSCSI is complaining about the device itself, I think. But that would seem it was too nosey.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaker Anaristos Tech: oh well, it was a nice idea.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: I would recommend turning on CHAP if you do want to have it around as an iSCSI device... but I'd personally be afraid of it having some connection issues, SCSI transport timeouts can be long and hange things on your PC.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaker Anaristos Tech: I would consider that and other things if I could connect successfully.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: True. I can't say I recall any issues as long as I could see the initiator and the CHAP secret was right.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaker Anaristos Tech: I mean I can us SMP but that is what I am trying not to do.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaker Anaristos Tech: if I do that I might as well plug the drive into a usb port
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: My best guess would be there's something not quite setup right on the drive exporting the volume, but without specifics it's hard to guess.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: If you're scanning the target from your PC, does it list the discovered initiator?
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Only other thing I guess is there are some settings for Data Digest/Header digest and such that should match on initiator and target.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaker Anaristos Tech: no, no detected portals detected (unless I specify one) and then it either says no devices detected or connection failed depending on the IP.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaker Anaristos Tech: anyway, I am going to put this on a shelf, maybe something will come up that solves it. I haven't ruled out defective hardware.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Possible. I'd lean towards firewall-y stuff and try to do some analysis as to whether packets are getting blocked somewhere in the chain.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaker Anaristos Tech: I put a hole in the firewall for both the server IP and the target.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaker Anaristos Tech: I could have done that wrong.
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaker Anaristos Tech: thanks for your time
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: why not just turn them off to test?
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: so once you finish an AQ such as kingsholm, can you program the mapper to shortcut to specific locations?
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: Yes... mapper help exits (mapper cexit say <placename> iirc for kingsholm...
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: got it thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: wow I just realized I can do cp and quests so much easier in areas by actually programming in the cexits...I've been manually navigating in areas with a lot of protals like fractured lands or sendhia....thanks!!!
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: so much for my data being unthrottled, unless youtube is messing up :-/ Whats the simplest drone system for a moroon like me to try and learn at a decent price?
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Bomb Link Tech: lol, theyve been messing with my unthrottleable data as well :/
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Bomb Link Tech: one of the middle size drones, not the small "pocket size" ones or the larger video drones but, the ones in the middle seem good for beginners
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: dli, djr whatever that company is called is decent? ive got a tiny one with no cam then something called a warrior drone, cant find that one. Ill check the stores but crap, that means braving a store on xmas eve! :)
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZzZzZz Tech: Back in the day we used to make our kites and fly them.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: i mean jeebus, going to best buy tomorrow. Ill wait for the post holiday sales instead :)
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: I verified my hotspot reset. I think the buffering is Google's mess up. I mean, I cant even figure out how to print hello world, but Im not a conglomerate monopoly worth hundreds of billions. So....who's the guiltier party here? :) LOL
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: it's me, I'm google
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: well then I bonk you :)
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: what was the first message sent? I think they only did "hello wo" (not world) before it cut out? maybe i forgot
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: nope it was just Lo. I did not know that :) funny old world
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: nope... which one do you have?
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: mt
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I have all of them!
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ZzZzZz chuckles at (Aleister) Crowley's joke.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: how do you guys test your plugins as you are writing them? do you just load them up each time?  What about prefered IDE, since its an XML file with embedded lua?
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Can't really test something that requires data from the MUD on an external source.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I just reload it each time until it works.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i finally got mine working... mostly. It work fine if i load it up and continues to work... but if i close mushclient and reopen, i doesn't come back.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: is there a way to check out whether its Google's incompetence for Youtube buffering or my idiot hotspot plan from TMobile? Who I add, had no record of me paying them cash to keep my account active. Since its Xmas, I wont go into the store and demand the security footage. Did I get a receipt? No, there was "no printer paper". I mean the person couldve just asked me for the cash if they needed to steal it from me
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: sounds alot like you got scammed, man.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onisasuke Tech: does anyone use pocket mud for iPhone 
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onisasuke Tech: how would I enable mccp pocket mud doesnt have it enabled
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Your client should do it for you.  What client are you using?
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onisasuke Tech: pocket mud on iPhone 
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Hmmm, I'm not familar with it, but it appears to support MCCP.  If it's not working, I'd submit a bug report to the app maker.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I assume you've confirmed by typing "mccp" it's really not on?
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seabiscuit Dashiell meeps! Maybe you should too!
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: The way MCCP works, when you connect to the MUD the client tells the MUD hey I support MCCP, please send data using that format!
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onisasuke Tech: yes it say you do not have compression on
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: anyone using hadars repop script?
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: i did setrepop and i am reptty sure i did it wrong
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: do you not reference the variables as displayed? like $(area) ?
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: its %{}
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: its ${}
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: oh!
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: sorry wrong button lol
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: dang i just didnt see that
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: thanks hadar
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: feel dumb lol
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: Hadar da man
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: its not super intuitive i should have used something else
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: no its fine really, i just didnt look close enough
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: you tell us right in the pop up, i just didnt read
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: is there a way to just disable the expkill tracker altogether?
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: i turn the reporting off, but ever mob i see the timer start message
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: hxp off
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: it *might* not work let me know haha
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: that didn't work :)
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: yeah hold on
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: just pushed a fix for hxp and the gold tracker
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: getting a compile error
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: [string "Plugin: Hadar_Exp_Tacker"]:33: ')' expected near 'yes'
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: wooo
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: He said he pushed a fix. Didn't say it wasn't still broken.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: He's like that shady mechanic. "Yeah, I fixed your car!" -- Two miles later, the axle breaks.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: 99% of the time i push fixes and dont load them up on my system
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: haha
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: the gold one took just fine
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: the one i just pushed at least loads up buhahaha
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: [string "Plugin: Hadar_Exp_Tacker"]:143: attempt to arithmetic a nil value
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Battle] Scars giggles.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: why you have nil values =/
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Battle] Scars glares at (Aleister) Crowley.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: its christmas eve
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: dont
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley hasn't even attempted to install it, Hadar.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: lol line 143 is an install var no way that could be math related
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: that turned off the start timer message, thanks hadar
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley giggles.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: i assume it didnt shut down all reporting and such tho
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: oh the start timer ... yeah that was a debug thing
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: which i dont know why it managed to keep going through
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: while you're here, the gold tracker should have an "hour" functionality, but it never seems to fire
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: hrmm
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: and when i type hgt config hour i see this: [ExpTracker]Hour message Enabled
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: or disabled, accordingly
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: it would be set hour
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: that seems to bring up the prompt for customizing the message
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: does it also turn it on?
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: [GoldTracker] Last Hour we got 500000 and spent 0 for a total of 500000 ... reports at the hour
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i just pushed exp tracker for the same, can set them to go to commlog to not miss them also
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: my plan was to use mendaloth's fake tracker channel for all, but that's also not making sense to me because it won't go into the comm window either
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: did you set them to go to comm log?
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: brb
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Did you create the alias it asked you to create?
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: alias tracker echo @r[@RTracker@r]@w:
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: i did: tracker             :  echo [Tracker]:
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Typing 'tracker Testing' doesn't send it to commlog?
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: okay, so... to me, the commlog is the miniwindow at the top that captures channels, are we talking about the same thing?
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: came stock with the client type thing
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: great, then no, it does not show up there
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The commlog says 'Communication log' at the top.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: only in main window
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wanner is agreeing with that [Battle] Scars person again...
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: mine shows the tab names i set up, i must have hidden that thing
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Type 'checkversion'. What version does it say you have?
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wanner Tech: I've never got mine in the comm log either
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: r2121
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What does 'tracker tab' show?
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: there is none
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What are your tab names?
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: tracker tab set to [Tracker]
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: Everything, Info, CLan, Group/Say, Auction, Tells, Friends
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So do: tracker tab Everything (or whatever tab you want it to show on)
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: perfect, thanks, i will make a new Tracker tab for it to work
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: i, an apparently dumbass, thought i had to call it [Tracker]
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: and calling it Tracker was all that i needed
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i also have been putting commlog functionality in all my scripts
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: with <script> report comm ... can also set a tab with <script> report comm <tab>
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: oh, that's interesting, that would let me set up a tab for each of the scripts
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: one tab to rule them all
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: one tab to track everyting is just duplicating the main window who
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: tho*
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: yeah i use tracker also, but i was like it would be easier if i just put the functionality in my scripts so i did
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: is there a command to customize the qp tracker, hadar?
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: not yet, have not made it that far in my re-writes
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Battle] Scars rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: thanks for all your work on this, much appreciate it :)
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: working on the level report plugin right now
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: yeah, these updates are really good Hadar
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: is it more likely that Google cant pull their britches up or the idiots at TMobile are STILL throttling my internet? I cant work like this. Why is my Youtube buffering
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: why does Google make all their customer service requests so complicated? I have Fi, I (finally, took me days) found my phone, but I cant activate it? What am I paying them for?
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: Plugin issue. I've been switching between a high and low level character and when I switched back this time I seem to have "forgotten" high level areas when it comes to room name CPs
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: this room name cp is all "unknowns" which is not how it should be
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: I can still mapper find rooms and run to them
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: did you xset index areas?
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: no. Can I just type that now without screwing anything up?
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: will that reset what I "know"?
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: that's what i do when it screws up
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: oh that command doesn't do anything for me at all.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: Sorry Talia, you can't do that.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: you might have to restart mush
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: already did. 
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: what plugin does it say 'unknown'?
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: no.. its the cp mobs in my cp list.. that are area unknown,w hich they shouldn't be, thanks to whatever plugin this is :P
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: its like switching to the low level alt broke the high level identification aspect of this plugin.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: There is a command to reset the index for areas trying to find it.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: yes i already mentioned xset index areas
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: xset index areas was suggested but doesn't work for me.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: did you reload SnD?
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: that isn't the right command it doesn't work for me either.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: I have not reloaded it it yet, that's next to try.. I suck at mush & plugins heh
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: it could be a different version, if you type xhelp maybe they have the command to use
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: xhelp does nothing.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: ctrl-shift-p and reinstall SnD
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: still the same problem. I guess its just borked for good.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: no you just need to find the command i couldn't find it.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: there is a specific command to reindex the areas that fixes it.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: someone suggested xareas which runs, but didn't fix the problem.
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rosalee Tech: are the stats listed using the '
T3/r7/2020-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rosalee Tech: are the stats listed using the 'compress' command for incoming data, outgoing data, or both?
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I'm tired of seeing info messages on my main screen, but I still want to see them in another panel (preferably a separate miniwindow and not the comm log, since that's cramped already.)
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Is there a way to gag info messages and shove them all over to another miniwindow?
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: you know you can make tabs in the comm log?
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: and you can have each tag only get specific channels
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: YOU can maybe, Im happy if I can log into accounts :) Merry Xmas yall, its now officially Santa Paws birthday for me. hope community stays well
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: So is there a way to exclude a spell using Pwar's spellup script?
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: yes, i'm just trying to remember how to bring the help up
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: Ahhh, that would be awesome.
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: spellup help   then see NoAuto
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: useful for putting protection evil on no auto once you have inertial barrier
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Bah, trying to set up TNAS, and it's connected to the same router as my laptop is, it's turned on, firewalls are off, and yet it cannot find the TNAS device. This is going to be frustrating.
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Finally moving to an NAS for my plex server to keep it more stable. :(
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or trying to, anyway.
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ugh, even switching them both to the router directly doesn't even seem to locate it. This. Is. Maddening.
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: can you try sending some traffic out from the server? sometimes it takes a bit of noise for the router to find it.
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I can't even connect TO the server. It's an NAS, TerraMaster F2-221. Has one disk in it, two lan ports (but only one for setup)...
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: headless server.  lame.  try pinging broadcast from the client a bit.  maybe that will provoke the router :p
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I don't even know how I would do that. I don't even know the IP address for it.
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: 255.255.255.255  may need to be root/administrator to make it happen.
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: if that doesnt work, try connecting a pc to the server's port on the router, give the pc the same ip as the server, and send some traffic from there - then reconnect the server to that port, and undo the duplicate ip address.  worth a shot.
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'll have to try that then.
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ugh, even connecting it directly to the computer did not work. This is getting very irksome.
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Most likely the NAS does its initial setup with DHCP. If you cannot find it with the included software after it's connected to your network, you might be able to log into your router and find out its DHCP address lease.
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: (assuming it's coming up far enough to grab an IP address)
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: MAC address should be printed on its exterior somewhere, so you should be able to identify it in your DHCP lease list.
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It should be, hmm. I'll check that too.
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Heh, no MAC address listed on the TNAS device. Oy.
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh geez. The entire time, it was because I had the hard drive installed. Upon taking out the hard drive, it found the TNAS device. Now we're rolling.
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: Anyone know of any other damage trackers other than Dtrack?
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: is it possible to install custom fonts for mushclient to pick from?
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: trying to write an alias that returns sends a vaule from a table but i'm getting Compile error, World: Aardwolf, Immediate execution, [string "Alias: "]:1: '}' expected near 'If'
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: most errors i can figuer out but i don't know what that means
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: sounds like it's expecting a '}' near an 'if'. hard to say much more without actual code to look at.
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: and nothing i have tried changes it
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: what's your first line?
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: don't know why i have my table bracketed on both sides, why would it expect another bracket
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: mmmm
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: starts with table = {"blah1","blah2","blah3"}
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: it'll be a lot easier to help if you put the snippet up on pastebin or something 
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: then local x = GetVariable("key")
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: if key > 4 Note("oops")
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: navigate to the alias in your aliases list, hit alt+c or click copy, paste on pastebin, and copy/paste that pastebin link here.
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok i think i did it, never used pastebin  https://pastebin.com/zpShC8fk
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: just skimming that, first thing i'd check is for unescaped quotes in your strings.
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: and/or replace them with single quotes
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i think the quotes are riht, i put then quotes in first then added the text
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: bad things can happen if you put quotes in your quotes so you can quote whiel you quote
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: at the very least, for debugging purposes, first thing i'd do is try a table with no embedded quotes at all and see if everything works then.
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok i can make a simple table and see it that works
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: " say @RLong Forgotten Storage Room@W: This is our @cclan-only storage rooms@W. This room technically is an interview room with locked doors. There is a second one called @C"If the Boot Fits!" @cSouth @Wof @cHeadquaters@W.",
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: That's at least one quotation problem.
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i was looking at that do those quoest in quotes mess it up?
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: if you don't escape the quote, it'll treat it like an end-quote for the whole argument instead of part of the string.
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: so you want something like "blah blah \"quoted text\" blah blah"
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: so it knows it's all part of the string.
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok i see an another too, i will get the table organized i guess thx
T3/r7/2020-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: hopefully thats my problem
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: for some reason I can never xrt to Arboretum.  it always says destination start room -1 is known to the mapper.  any ideas? tried purging it etc.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: go to the first room and xset mark
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: alright that seemed to fix it thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: quick question my tier affect portal level but should i still put the level of the portal on the mapper portal to what ever level the portal is or my tier level is
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: the level the portal is
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: mapper is smart and knows what tier you are
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: so it adjusts automatically
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: ty!
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: If you set a portal to level 100 and you're tier 7 for example, the mapper knows to start using it at level 30. And when you become tier 8 it knows to start using it at level 20. It's neat like that.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anime-niac Kimetsu Tech: anyone good with the Pwar S&D use with mapper?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I'm decent at it
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anime-niac Kimetsu Tech: So - I have had a couple mobs over the past couple of weeks. Just now it was a tall green man in Oz.  I get the "possible" room matches, but it reports there is no route to the room. If i type in mapper where 591 (the first room in the list) it gives the correct path using the custom exits I have, and I can type "mapper goto 591" and it will take me there. But I can't just type go.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Hm. I don't know what would cause that error.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: That might be a bug - I think pwar's snd has become a bit more bugged recently, there's also the double cp bug that happens if you kill two cp targetes in a row too fast
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anime-niac Kimetsu Tech: yeah me either :(.  Driving me crazy trying to track it down
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Anyone remember how to colorize zmud echoes?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: lol zmud. no sorry
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: how come when i do string.format("%5f",var) it gives me 6 places still?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: figured it out
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: could round using print(math.floor(a+0.5)) ?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i could, but i want at least 1 decimal place
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: tonumber(string.format("%.3f", exact)) ?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: yeah haha
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18313171/lua-rounding-numbers-and-then-truncate
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok i have revised the alias i was working on last night, it is now here: https://pastebin.com/mxukFsgD. Can someone tell me why the roomnum returns 49392, but the table returns is nil?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: gmcp returns strings
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: gmcp returns values as strings so you are getting the room number as "49392".  I suspect your array expects it as a number so do:  tonumber(roomnum)
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: so i tonumber it?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: sweet works  :)
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: tech Does anyone happen to know which version of LuaJIT is bundled with mush?  I'm having some trouble cross-compiling lua code that the mush lua interpreter can load and I'd like to eliminate any version issues
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: obviously
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: well, I didn't want to presume by adding "Fiendish: " to the start of my question :P
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Fiendish: does anyone know...?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yeah, me, lol
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: one
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: times up
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: I will :)  Fiendish:  Is it possible to add fonts to MUSh to use for the output?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Furian: yes but if you want it to work properly you have to actually install those fonts in the system and not just have them hang out in the mushclient folder
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: as in simply install them on window? well, thats easy then!
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient doesn't know to load fonts from the local folder at startup, so if you don't install the font to the OS level then it won't actually use the font the next time you launch the application
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I plan to work on fixing that after I finish with miniwindows
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: and there is the font i tried loading yesterday haha, thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Durel: the luajit dll is added to the install via https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/appveyor.yml#L14 which pulls it from a binary built using https://github.com/fiendish/LuaJIT-build/blob/master/appveyor.yml
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: cool, thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I have a fork repo of LuaJIT at https://github.com/fiendish/LuaJIT.git just so that I can predict when the dll will actually change
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: also here are two build files for DLLs I include that are compiled against the right luajit: https://github.com/fiendish/lua-llthreads2-build/blob/master/appveyor.yml  and  https://github.com/fiendish/lua-openssl-build/blob/master/appveyor.yml
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: as examples 
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akira Tech: hey, im having an error come up when trying to install pwar's plugin manager - Line   99: Error parsing script (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akira Tech: any ideas how to fix it?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: put the zip thing in the root mud folder
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: you unzipping to main mush folder?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: he has instructions on his github wiki too if i remember right
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akira Tech: that did the trick, thanks :)
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anime-niac Kimetsu Tech: repeat of a question I asked way too early this morning, but I seem to have this problem (a lot in Oz), I am using PWar's S&D plugin. Any ideas on what is going on? http://mb.aardwolfboot.com/okuravajap  I can do a where and it returns the same 561 room and I can get to it with no problem.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: can you put a delay in a script?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yep
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you can create a one-time timer with a script callback
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I think there might also be a built-in way, I've seen something like that in aard_GMCP_mapper
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok yeah i can call a timer to fire i guess
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: looks like there's a "wait" module that might help
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it creates a timed callback
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yeah just look at the top of ".\lua\wait.lua" for documentation, I think that's about what you want
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok thx
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: how do I reconfigure my S&D kill comands?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: the ones that get entered when I click on the KK button?  I no longer have backstab
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: xset kk whatever
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you're using my version, type 'xhelp' to see the commands
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: how do I get your version?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Which version are you using currently? If you're using Pwar's version, you might stay with it for a bit until I get the mob database added. If you're using any other version, you can get it from the link in my Finger.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: I think starlings.  heh
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, mine is the updated version of hers since she is no longer allowed to play here.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I'm waiting for you to add the database so I can upgrade! Pwar's is getting old and starting to show some bugs.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Mapped rooms can't be runto, error messages spamming up my screen when I kill two mobs in a row...
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley comforts Princess Alison.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: fwiw, you can reload with ppm reload # for the "kill two mobs in one round" problem
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Yeah, that's what I do to fix it at the moment. It's not a pleasant feeling when it suddenly breaks halfway through a GQ and I have to recall and take a few seconds to reinstall it, though. 
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: But that's the risk you take with plugins nad scripts, that they'll break on you at the wrong time. Occupational hazard.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: If you remove the room (I use the map) and then explore it again it generally clears that up for me (in pwar's). Still debating tweaking the code for pwar's myself...
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Still, it would be nice if that bug wasn't appear.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ogreskull nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: so i wrote my first little plugin, but it doesn't work when i start up mush, i have to load it afterwards. It looks likke the gmcphelper isn't loaded prior to my plugin being loaded.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley slaps Braun.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's not loaded until you require it in the plugin.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: First line of your script code should be: require 'gmcphelper'
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: its right after required "themed_miniwindows" ill flip them
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: those two are first tho
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, you can keep it that way, yeah.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I just mean in general.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you're trying to make a gmcp call before you're even connected, then that'll cause problems, too.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You don't receive any gmcp information until you're connected after all the info at the start.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: OnPluginBroadcast, OnPluginEnable, RrefreshPage is probably where my issue is. I'm not sure i understand how those work yet
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: and yes, you are right. I get the error right before i log in (auto login)
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sounds like you're running it off OnPluginInstall.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or OnPluginEnable.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: yes, shold i move it to OnPluginBroadcast?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nah, I'd just check for gmcp("char")
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: if gmcp("char") then [rest of code] end
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: ok ill try that. thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Though in that situation, that code will never run. What precisely does that code do?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: its just a window that has my stats with some calculator for stat priority. it was my first plugin, so really just a learning tool
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, the move any gmcp-related code to broadcast. You can still create the window and whatnot, but keep it blank or put a generic message like, "Waiting for gmcp to load."
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: crowley doyou know what starling used instead of xset?  because that's not working for me
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: update your alias for k %1
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Odd that it's not working for you. Type 'ww' (I think) to see if it loads her help system (which would be the old WinkleWinkle help)
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: older versions just do k %1 so uses whatever your normal alias is 
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: nope
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Worst case is you alias bs kill, or backstab, or whatever you had set kk to.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: did you try xhelp?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: i dont have a k or kk in my mush aliases
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: xhelp is in my version, Greybeard. :p
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: ah
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: xhelp doesnt pull anything up either
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Cupcake: Whatever command kk is sending, just alias it to something else, MUDside. So: alias bs c miasma, for example
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: starling had a number of updates as well if you use that
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or update to mine (since it is more updated anyway, and is maintained now (help snd)).
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: yours still has the buttons or is it all command line?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It literally is Starling's version, but updated and maintained. Working on adding new features. One of the new features is 'snd update', which will update it automatically in the future.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: Im using the old winkwinkle
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: amazing,thank you.  I will upgrade.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: ok, something weird is going on.  delted starlings version, added crowley and "xset" still does nothing.  it's a not recognized command.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: buy xhelp works...
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: try xset kk command
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: opps....   Search and Destroy: Quick-kill command is now set to: 'comand'
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: try xset kk c ballistic
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: how do I put in a mush alias?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: kk sends three lines, backstab <mobname from S&D> then my curent attack alias twice
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I forget if I made it where SnD will allow aliases. I might not have updated that part yet.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: meh.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Did you delete ALL of Starling's plugins? If it was the three-file one, you'll need to delete the Extender_Gui, the Search & Destroy, and whatever other file it was.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: I made an alias tied to kk to repeat whatever kill command a want
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: you could make an alias that is kk then your commands. so it does kk then whatver you want
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: you can set up a script to change kk to whatever you want at specific levels
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, so I do have it set for executing aliases, but it's a non-complex one. So if you have an alias that changes your attack spell each level, then you can use it.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: that too
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: I use a vailable and I just change that.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, so you can have it use the MUSH alias. Just xset kk mush-alias-name
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: cool, that worked
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: just dont xset kk kk
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (As long as it's not overly complicated, like "backstab mob;c toxic;kick")
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers with KnightLord Throxx about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KnightLord Throxx whistles like he has never made a loop by accident...
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Those are the fun days.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: jsut started a new cp, it didn't populate in the window?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: click ref, or do a cp check
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: type cp info see if that helps
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, that's something I'm going to address in the next version, too. Not sure why it doesn't, since it sends the commands for it.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: ref worked
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: For those who haven't seen, this will be the new xhelp format: https://i.vgy.me/JolRBL.png
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: crowley your version just does a where?  no hunt first to verifiy its the right mob you are doing the where for?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: xset mode ht
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: dangit   That is not a command. Type 'Commands' for a complete list.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm sorry, not xset. xcp mode ht
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sorry, exhausted. Long day.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Topped off with throbbing headaches. :p
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: ok, that worked.  sorry for the noob questions
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nah, you're fine.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: does ht in campaigns exclude any results that it can hunt?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Is there a primer on working with databases (e.g. Aardwolf.db) for scripts?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: ht will fire until it hits a mob that cannot be hunted.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Veritheia: Not one I'm aware of.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: ok, that worked.  sorry for the noob questionsi
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: mis
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: another questions, is there a way to have it go home first before going to an area when I click xcp or on a mob link?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: why would you want to?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: in case this is related to norecall or noportal rooms, check mapper help portals under the bounce stuff
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: becasue a lot of the time it can't find a path from whateever room in in and I have to type home then click again
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: veritheia, there's a decent page in the mushclient docs: https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=database
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: thanks, Sath
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: that sounds like you need home and recall set as portals, bounceportal would probs also help
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: i never really understood the bouncey stuff in mapper.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: if the room you're in is norecall but allows portals, or vice versa, it's a way of leaving the room before continuning with a portal/recall
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i did't know how to fix that at first either, but when i got the garbage can portal, that issue went away
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: i don't knwo what S&D is sending to the mud when I click on xcp.  I click on it and it goes to the next area.  but in a lot of areas, you can't just walk out of it, so I need S&D to get me out THEN walk to new area.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: unfortunatly that function isn't enabled in current versions
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: ok, thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: i made a command i use that does walkto 1966. i type out and it just walks me to that room real quick. doesn't use portals
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: did you get garbage can portal by chance? Im nto sure if there is another way of fixing it so you don't have to recall first, but the garbage can portal will def fix it for u
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Let's clarify something real fast.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i think you can only get it 10 and below
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: who is that for Furian?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's not SnD's job to "get you out of an area"
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: so you want a clickable home or recall button on s&d miniwin, that's a good idea to suggest
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: no it's not.  and i create a macro so I can "home" fast, I was just wondering if I could prefew the commands with "home".  that's all
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: SnD does not move you directly. It executes "mapper" commands. SnD has no knowledge of rooms and their flags, but rather utilizes mapper commands to navigate.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Therefore, if the room you are in is 'prison' or 'norecall' or 'noportal', and your Aardwolf.db gmcp mapper does not know it, then 'mapper goto' doesn't know it, and thus you won't exit the area.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: All SnD does is saves you the trouble of typing 'mapper goto 12345'
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: got it
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can set up bouncerecall and bounceportal options in mapper, and as long as mapper knows the flags of the room, it'll use whichever command is best suited.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: 42
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Wonderful world of NAS. Now that I've got Medusa running through Docker, attempting to locate the external drive that has my TV Episodes is proving... difficult.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: When I type 'run callhero' I get 'Invalid directions in command.' But rt works, also mapper won't go there. How do I troubleshoot?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Use runto instead of run
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: run is not the same as runto
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: run executes a set of directional commands, i.e. neswud
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or, if you're using SnD, it's xrt, not run.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Veritheia.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Yeah, I'm trying to find out why mapper won't go there.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Because 'run' is a MUD command.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not a mapper command.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: "speedwalk callhero"
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Sorry, xrt won't go to callhero either.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: there's a cexit in there that needs to be registered in mapper.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You either have to do 'mapper goto <id>', or again, if using SnD, 'xrt callhero'
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: And, mapper will only go there if you have a valid path stored in the mapper. If you've never actually runto callhero then mapper won't move you there
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: if mapper doesn't work then S&D won't work because S&D only calls mapper functions for moving
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Do you have the custom exit for 'knock door' set in the room before Call of Heroes?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: ...??? Mapper doesn't use runto does it? I thought it was mapper goto... 
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I went to the room where the mob is, then recalled to check, but xcp wouldn't go, neither would xrt.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: runto is a mud command
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: No, mapper doesn't use runto
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seabiscuit Dashiell Tech: There is a custom exit involved.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Torsin: From global recall, type: run 2n2w;open w;run 2wn
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Crowley: Must not have knock door.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: When you get to that room, type 'mapper thisroom' and see if you see a 'custom exit' made there.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If 'knock door' is not listed anywhere in 'mapper thisroom', then yes, it's missing that exit.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: it will be under "exits" - it should say "knock door"="33031"
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And that will be why you cannot xrt to it.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Thanks, I'll check it out.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Crowley: Thanks, that did it! I forgot the speedwalk command.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley smiles happily.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Don't forget to thank everyone else who offered assistance, too!
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torsin blushes.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: AllTechies: Thanks! :)
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Society of Utopia looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think I should have gone with a QNAP for my NAS instead of a TerraMaster.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: sethc kalista
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: oops
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Hi Kalista! :D
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Whee! About damn time I get Medusa up and running properly on TerraMaster.
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong...
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Does every plugin automatically generate a state file (on save)? No need to "manually" save unless we want specifically want to manually save, e.g. with some command?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: what is a decent budget camera for home security?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: I am a fan of Wyze
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: what kind of budget?
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i dono if you can beat them wyze prices, them seem pretty budget to me lol
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: I use them, they are actually decent quality
T3/r7/2020-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: sweet thanks, its just for my gfs house, apparently someone was going through the trash when they were moving in
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: I seem to be having trouble loading a table from state file which is being saved with SetVariable("table_saved", serialize.save_simple(table_live)). I check the state file and it's being saved fine. I've tried various ways to load table_saved from the state file but it never seems to load.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: try: table_live = assert(loadstring("return " .. (GetVariable("table_saved") or "")))()
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: hrm. I get an error [string "return table_live = {}"]:1: '<eof>' expected near '='
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IAC DO Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: if I do \\\table_live = assert(loadstring("return " .. (GetVariable("table_saved") or "5")))();print(table_live)    I see 5
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: did you paste that as two lines?
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so you're doing something wrong
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: i'm sure i'm doing something wrong :D
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: paste what I just wrote into your input and tell me what it does
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: 5 - works fine
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: good. now you just have to find where your syntax error is
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Uhh, I threw a bunch of stuff at it and now it's fixed. Thanks, Fiendish
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yup
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boi Zyanya Tech: Hi all. does anyone know if there's a later version of Bast's broadcast level script than the 2009 one? Getting a run-time error
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boi Zyanya Tech: Or can someone be kind enough to walk me through how to fix it? Assuming it's the 'You gain * instinct trains' breaking it. 
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what's the error?
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: any existing plugins that shows the room con in a window?
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: room con?
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: as in consider?
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: consider
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: shindo's conw, finger shindo
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: it errors out with no plugin found
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Hm, that's odd. Are you sure you're using the right one?
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: There's two versions, one for blowtorch and one for mush.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: aah ok, let me check, thats prolly what i got
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: https://github.com/Shindo-Aardwolf/Aardwolf-consider
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: you should be using this one.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Oh shoot, I'm so sorry
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I think that's the blowtorch one
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I can't find the MUSH version, did he remove it?
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i found another that seems to work
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: Blainer
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suluap Tech: yeah that one works okay. i think the main downside is it doesnt update until after the mob you attack dies
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: aah yea, I can see how that can slow you down, but its way better than doing a con on each room to get the proper names
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pestallel Tech: https://github.com/Shindo-Aardwolf/Mushclient-Consider that one?
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Keep in mind that a short lag was added to "consider" to stop people spamming it in each room.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Yeah, that one, thanks Pestallel. :)
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: That's the one I use, it runs very smooth.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pestallel bows before Princess Alison.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: thanks! I'll try them both out
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: works great except the aura is blacked out (what you would click on to kill) ... cant see it, but i can still click it
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suluap Tech: which one is that with?
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: the Shindu one
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: is there a way to easily reorder the tabs in the commlog?
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: drag them?
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: comm log tabs aren't draggable
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: huh whaddya know :D
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I think you have to delete and remake them... :(
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: My tabs are, left to right, [all/friend/clan/newbie/private/group]
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: you can probably edit the state file
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: looks like each tab setting is stored as a table with the key being the tab location, e.g.   tabs_channel_captures[2] = {} is the second tab
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: so if you go into your state file, you can change the keys around to reorder the tabs but probably make a backup of your statefile in case you miss something and things get weird. 
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Is there a way to have multiple window configureations for different computers using Mushclient? I've got 2 monitors with different resolutions.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I thought someone had said there was a way to do that.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: see "aard layout help" for info on managing different screen layouts
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Durel: thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: -scars
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i guess
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I always love it when I'm the sole user and sole account on Windows 10, but I'm apparently not the admin so when a program requires administrative privileges, it yells at me to get an admin to run it.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I hate that.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: turn it off
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Can't turn it off.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: yes you can :)
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's an installer and it doesn't want me to install without admin privileges. I AM THE ADMIN!
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Melvin is the admin.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: "This installer requires admin privileges to run... aborting install!"
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers with FrshPrncOf Kelaire about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: [Melvin]: How true that is, Kelaire.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: KLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System  - set EnableLUA to 0 , reboot.  It will never ask you again.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It was already set to 0. :(
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: and will always run everything with admin privledges.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: then you have a local policy set, let me find it
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: always running everything with admin privileges sounds like a terrible idea
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: it can be... yes
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: its for your own protection :)
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: One wrong click and your system goes kaput.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I just want it to know that when I right-click and choose 'Run as administrator', it recognizes me as the administrator. :P
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: we never enable UAC on our servers.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: or should i say, we always disable it.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: so gpedit.msc, under Computer Configuration, Windows Settings, Security Settings, Local Policies, Security Options. There are two settings there that control prompt behavior when uac is on/off (User Account Control: Behavior of the elevation prompt (both tart with that.)  If you have EnableLUA turned off, then one of those is set to prompt.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: or should i say its ste to something non-default.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: the right click "runas" will always ask when uac is enabled because that can be ran programatically.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, that's also changed: When Administrator, elevate without prompting. When standard user, prompt. It's treating me like I'm a standard user. :(
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I remember there was a version of windows that, if it needed administrator permission, would just prompt you for an administrator password.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: that can still be enabled Alison
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: No faffing about. Was a very good design. If you're the only user, you'd know your own password, and because it prompts you to enter it in, it means that you can't accidentally delete system32 without conscious effort.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: with those two settings i mentioend prevously..  one is for standard, the other is for admin.  FOr admins, by deafult, its consent.  But you can change it to prompt for credentials.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ooo... Got an invalid message to send to Fiendish.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Roume Tech: Crowley give me your ip i can remote in and be your admin if you want.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Was quite wierd. I ticked a box in the installer, and at the exact moment I ticked it, MUSH said, "Screw you!"
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Roume: You already have it! It's 127.0.0.1!
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sent it to Fiendish in email. Whee.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: When you get a line in MUSH like this... laire" }INFO: The True Source floods QKaylie": 1417, "align": 144, "tnl": 1141, "qt": 0, "qs": 0, "lvl": 95, "here": ord, and because it prompts you to enter it in, it means that you can't accidentally delete system32Source floods Quadrapus with Power.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus howls at the moon.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: looks like a lot of power to me
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Quad is brimming with so much power, he broke my MUSH.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: That is only his second form too.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: fiendish still around?
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: my inventory serials stopped working, but addon still enabled. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: linkdead at the moment
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What happens if you type 'inventory serials'?
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley starts to hear the faint sounds of a cricket chirping.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: the help....i jsut figured that out by reviewing the xml, but when i turn it on and i hit i, my inventory does show at all
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: doesn't show*
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: inventory serials on --> Try that and see if it turns it on.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: ive seen this before, but dont recall what i did to fix it.  
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I don't use inventory serials. :p
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Those are the only two commands I know.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i used it on occassion, but now that I have 18 nyne scimitars, and 5 or so with enhancements, i really wish i had it lol
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Furian: Did you accidentally disable it in the plugin manager, or remove it at all?
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Check/reinstall it from there.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: its enabled, i can do "inventory serials on" and it tells me that its turning it on, but when i do an INV, i just ge ta blank line (no inventory at all.) If i turn it back off, my inventory works again without serials
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: sounds like there's a gag trigger left in somewhere
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, might be something from #gag
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or a trigger you have gagging [\d+]
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i have very few triggers... nothing that gags
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Though, it shouldn't gag that line because it's not a gaggable line.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Can't trigger off ColourTells/ColourNotes/Notes/print.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Furian: Have you... restarted MUSH?
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: yea
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2020-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, hopefully Fiendish finds out. If it was discussed before, you might do a grep search on your Aardwolf chatlog to see where the answer lies.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: do i need to be in portal room when i add to the mapper
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: ty
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garrot Tech: Been adding a couple of plug ins and the ascii map has gone. Which plug in is the ascii map?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: aardwolf_ascii_mapper
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garrot Tech: Thanks ShadowDragon.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: whats the command to set a room to no portal or recall
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Fancy Cupcake Tech: crowley whats the arrow thingy on the miniwin for S&D?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's your noexp limit. If you increase it, SnD will turn on noexp when you reach that tnl to prevent you from leveling if you are cp leveling.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: can anyone help me learn Winetricks? Is that even the right app to use? Im on a debian NUC but found all my license codes for various windows versions
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: or which processor to be using if I buy a cheap one at the discount store? my current laptop is an i7, forget the speed. old Dell. Im mostly interested in a) getting a Windows key B) for gaming. 
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: Crowley, a question for you. Is there a way to display quest targets in the separate screen? It's showing campaign targets. I figured it could be that quests are quick and might not get it's dedicated area in the screen, but scrolling up to refrence the links can be tedious lol! Thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can type 'xq' to display the quest info again. Or, you can type 'q info' for a simple output.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: what is the layout command again (for switching between computers)? I forgot already.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: aard layout
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can always check 'aard help' for more commands.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pump the Fuel Tech: at 2021, how risky is to buy a used video card you think?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Truth be told, I'd never buy used computer equipment unless it was a monitor, keyboard, or mouse.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: if you do, make sure it not a model heavily used for mining
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pump the Fuel Tech: ive bought about 6-7 cards but only one of them broke.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I buy used computer equipment, but only from somewhere that has good return policies
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Octosloth Tech: prob pretty safe just make sure u check it with a magnet first to make its polerized correctly
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pump the Fuel Tech: polarized?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's fair, Magna. :P
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: He's trolling you, Fuel. :p
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pump the Fuel Tech: o h.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure you change the blinker fluid :-)
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: l
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And if you want an instant charge to your iPhone (really works on Androids, too), just pop it in the microwave for 30 seconds. The radiation from the microwave will charge up the battery quickly.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pump the Fuel Tech: i have a miner's old rx570 now. it behaved weirdly at first but is running flawless for 6 months now. completely overclockable too
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i just  recently sold 8 RX580s
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pump the Fuel Tech: but my brother has 1050ti that needs to be replaced. but he is poor and for 200.- he could buy a new 1050ti from the store. thats why i ask
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: havent defragged my work laptop ever
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: started it 7 hours ago and it is 17% done
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: whats a decent linux distro for an older laptop? mainly just going to be doing my programing on there so i dont have to be at my desktop, was thinking of going with ubuntu 20.04lts but not sure if there is something that might work better with older hardware
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: have 20 something, but 18.04 worked better for me imo
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: any debian based - as it allows easy upgrades
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: besides for older laptop consider using SSD, that should boost it
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: how do you turn off the text-to-speech? mine got turned on somehow.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In MUSH?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Try typing 'tts'? Only I didn't think that plugin came with the normal Mush installation...
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It doesn't.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Interesting.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's why I asked if he's talking about MUSH or Windows in general.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: all the shifting buhaha
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Have people used Fiendish's new easy-MUSH-window thing yet?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i have been playing with it in my free time
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Thanks, will send you a tell
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I inserted an "all" into that sentence Hadar, and I was like wow, he likes this plugin!
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braun Tech: aww :'( I was hoping to eavesdrop
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I was too!
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Fiendish would be in favor of us talking about it here.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: haha ok... Hadar, do you think it's ready for use for simple windows? :P
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It is.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Is there a good tutorial on the page?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There is.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: yeah he goes over it in good detail on his github
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Perfect. Mendaloth once you figure it out let me know. Thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Well if I can figure it out, you know it's ready for prime time!
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: with dinv how do you make it wear the aura of sanc even if its not the best item?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: bump up the points on sanctuary in your priority
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: if you want it always worn just put the point in sanctuary to 999
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: you can add to it's weight by bumping up the sanctuary priority.  If you never want to swap off of it, you can disable the "float" wearable slot so dinv ignores it in your priority.  Just do "~float 1" (or "~float 1 1 1 1" if you have multiple level ranges)
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: durel does the pass not accept keywords? just id?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I think it's just the ID for that mode
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It's kind of an odd mode that I probably wouldn't have added in if I bothered doing the goals in the first place :P
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I probably spent more time adding in that mode than it took to just do the goals :P
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Hrm I'm not sure if I ever used that feature.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: heh, there arent really that many places where it works for me was fiddling to see if it makes it easier or not
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: to be honest, I wouldn't bother with it.  I'd have removed it from dinv years ago, but I didn't want to screw up a cexit for someone who did want it
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: which feature/command, Durel?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: pass
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: dinv help pass
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: I use that a ton
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: where?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: None shall pass.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: oh. i've always just built those into my cexits
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: yeah where I'd be curious as well to know some places.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It basically is a command that says "get item xyz, hold it for N seconds, and then put it back"
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Are there multiple versions of dinv? If so which one should I use? It's time I added another plugin.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Just the one :P  The link and wiki with docs for it is in my description
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You probably want to read the walk-through in the docs link first to see if it's something you'd be interested in
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Durel: thanks! I know there are other plugins with multiple versions.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Will do, I've heard good things about it & had it referred to me personally.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Excellent :)  Let me know if you have questions or get stuck.  If you find a bug, send that info to Crowley though *shifty*
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torsin chuckles.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: is there like a dinv shield&hold option or will it always prioritize duel wielding?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Thanks, Durel.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Nope, you can have shield/hold too.  See "dinv priority display psi-defense" for an example doing that
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: you can force shield
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: basically you disable the offhand slot so dinv will be forced to use shield/hold
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i have priority that forces shield for when slapping hurts too much
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i have to find my shields first buhaha
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: dinv search wearable shield
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i did       shield  99.00 and offhanddamage 0
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: that forces shield when i need it
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I just got around to moving Mushclient to Dropbox and everytime I open or close it, I get an error: Unable to creat the plugin save state file: blah blah blah-state.xml
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Anyone know how to fix that?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: just pause dropbox when starting mush
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Ok, I'll try that. Same when closing?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Oh, that's interesting.  I was on a dropbox folder when I wrote dinv and it used to work.  That was a few years ago though so maybe something changed with dropbox
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i normally just leave it paused
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Durel: I haven't added dinv yet (downloaded though). So I don't think it's dinv's fault.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Hadar: leave it paused while Mushclient is opened?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: oh, hehe good :P  I thought you were reporting a dinv problem *whew*
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Durel: No, not trying to create any problesm :)
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: as far as i know you can let it sync while mush is running, im testing it now
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: So just opening and closing mush?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Yes, you can run it straight out of dropbox but the constant syncing was giving me occasional weird errors
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Better to run it in a non-synced folder and backing up regularly
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I have two computers I use, so that was the impetus for moving to dropbox. Therefore I also have to have them synced.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i tried running mush on my onedrive.... it didnt' end up happy
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I'm glad I didn't try that then. It seems like some people have had succes on dropbox.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i died a little inside when the laptop i was going to install linux on did not want to install it because the processor cant handle 64 bit lol
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Nice, Hadar! Seems like pausing during opening and closing works for me. I'll have to check if syncing during close causes problems.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: my goal was to be able to move from my office to my laptop (with my laptop connected to  my big screen tv.)
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: mudding on a big screen
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: thats.... fascinatingly odd
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: if its in the same house, why not put it on a shareable drive?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: That's too bad! Who knew a client had to be so advanced!
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i can run it from my server, but wasn't sure how mush would handle runnign over wifi
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Hadar: that's a good idea, didn't even think of that.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: so i put it on onedrive with the thought of syncing locally. I ended up corrupting somethign though
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'll throw out one other thing I've been doing recently that is kind of fun with mush.  I had a spare nintendo switch controller and I configured it to work with mush.  There are 2 joysticks, 1 dpad, and 15 configurable buttons you can map to macros.  So you can move, aoe, attack, spellup, etc. all with a game controller.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: and someone said mudding on a big screen was odd, yet fascinating :P
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I use freeware (Enjoyable) with a mac to set up the macros.  It's actually pretty nice as a break from typing
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i almost bought a mac last week, but got the Surface book 3 instead.  this mud was the tipped me to windows
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: I gave my friend a brand new Mini because I couldnt figure out appleID system LOL
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: they are very weird when it comes to security.  I have an account that i lost that has at least a couple 100$ of purchases on it. Its impossible to recover.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: I have zero idea how theyre possibly going to pull off Tomorrowland on NYE?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I have improvements coming for the easy miniwindows stuff
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: cool. btw is the comm log/miniwins supposed to be able to handle triggers/highlights?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I don't understand the question
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: You can use a trigger in mush to change text color but it doesn't carry over to the comm log that i know of
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ah
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the comm log gets its messages from gmcp, not output
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it does pass everything through the #sub plugin though
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so you can use that to colorize things
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: ah okay. good enough, thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the sub plugin has one of my favorite weird lua code inventions in it
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: err, looked through #sub help, didn't see anything related to changing color
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: look at the examples
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hmm...maybe I should change the examples!
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: try something like #sub {(Fiendish)} {%1 @R(rude)$C} #regex #alone #nocase
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: ah yeah i see that. it handles regex, right, so it should be able to handle wildcards?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: originally it used Lua patterns and not proper regex, which made certain internal things very tricky, so I invented a way to convert from lua patterns to regex patterns
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: works for everything except iirc the frontier pattern which almost nobody knows about anyway
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: that fiendishmagic
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/lua/regex_helpers.lua#L29-L83
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Any idea xrt kerofk wouldn't work when speedwalk shows no cexits and I've been there?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Do I need to xset mark the area?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: what is the error you ghet if it's -1 room id or something then yes xset mark the first room.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: dont need,mapper will auto mark
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Yep, xset mark fixed it - thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Np, it happens sometimes, happened to me just the other day.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I went there twice,  but it still didn't mark.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: xset mark made it work though
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: if you want get the place use xrunt,you can xset mark the place
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I've never used xrunt before
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: u should use xrunt,mapper calculate the way according portal/clan portal/runto to get the area,and you should to learn the diffrent of xset speed(use portal,not use portal)
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: xrunto and xrt are the same thing so just keep using xrt, it's fine
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: if you want use clanspeed to the area,u should set the beginning at aard plaza hotel use aard amulet,then set xset speed to walk,then type xrunt area
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: What?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: such as u can type xrunt dsr
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: regardless of where you are, xrt will find the shortest route including portals, including amulet
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: it will not find the shortest route, but a route that is not always shortest.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: the only time it won't find the shortest route is if you have a portal that is a few rooms away
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: then your portal setup might be more steps than just running but otherwise, it finds the shortest route
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: it will not find the shortest route, but a route that is not always shortest.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: ignore that
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: darn up key
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: s&d doesn't have any special pathing algorithms as far as i know, it depends on the aard mapper
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: that's correct
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: it's the same as "mapper goto" , it just holsd a hash of all the starting rooms
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: is there a way to search for clan purchased eq with DINV? can't seem to find a way to search in note
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: dinv search clan pyre
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: one clan at a time, might be a better way tho.
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: cool, ty
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnN0yiNg Eadric Tech: anyone familiar with android phones?
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnN0yiNg Eadric Tech: i formatted my micro sd as internal storage in my phone and it's reporting doubel capacity and weird numbers
T3/r7/2020-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnN0yiNg Eadric Tech: i'm on android 9
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corran Tech: I'm get, "*** WARNING: areas index is missing for Xyl's Mosaic, type "xareas" to re-index and report this to Pwar!"  Any advice?
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: type xareas
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: So when I tried to start muchclient, it said I was missing a .dll file and I needed to reinstall. Now my mapper db is gone. Is there a way to get it back? I'd hate to have to re-explore all those areas and put the cexits in again.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: probably got overwritten in reinstall, did you create a backup of your MUSH folder?
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: Well, I'm looking at mapper help and apparently once daily auto backups were made. I just need to figure out how to point the mapper to the latest one.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: if you check your MUSH folder do you have a db_backups folder?
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: Yes it has one with several files in it.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: 5 to be exact.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: cool, that's probably it then, especially if date is recent and they seem decent size, for example my DB is around 7,500kb
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: the latest one is probably Aardwolf.db.Backup_Automatic
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: in the main directory you have Aardwolf.db, I would copy and paste the latest backup to main folder and rename it to Aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: 6.8 for mine.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: That's probably what I need then. I should do this offline I guess?
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: i.e. delete the fresh Aardwolf.db file then copy and paste the backup into main directory then rename
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yeah, presumably
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: Thank you so much Gregor
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: you can thank me if it works lol :D
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: I don't see why it won't but I'll let you know.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: yes, offline with the application closed
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: Worked like a charm. Thanks again Gregor.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: awesome :) gl
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: Okay, so I'm a CMud guy who's trying to learn MushClient. I'm having trouble setting up a disarm trigger. Any pointers?
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DoNotBurn Brun Tech: trigger to: A * DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon!
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: I'm getting DISARMS you and sends your an ebony dagger flying!
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: I just use the DISARMS part
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DoNotBurn Brun Tech: then trigger to: A * DISARMS you
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: ok, Thanks.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Can you, like in zmud, add echoes to your prompt? In zmud I have my pot-count for example
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: when a room is marked as no recall no portal does s&d automatically move to a different direction the portal
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Percivale Tech: My mapper database appears to have been wiped out.. any way to go back to a previous version or something?
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boi Zyanya Tech: copy the latest db back up (look in the db_backups folder) into the main aardwolf folder
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Percivale Tech: K, did that.. I guess I'll try the one prior to that
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Percivale Tech: I noticed that it also said it needed to update to mapper schema version 11 today, so perhaps that's related
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I've created a couple cexits, but they aren't saving even though the exit is confirmed by mapper. It then doesn't show up on the mapper cexits here list and using the qw <room>, go 1 won't go there.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: any ideas on what's going wrong?
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: are you sure it doesn't say it leads back to the same room?
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, if the room doesn't change, it won't save it.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: you may need to reload mapper plugin for them to show up in cexits here, i think? could just be lying
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: For whatever reason mapper is saving only the first command. You have to double ;, right?
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Correct
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yes. so it would be mapper cexits open north;;north
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: or maybe just mapper cexit, whatever, you get it
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: home
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: oops, mis
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Yeah, so when I enter the cexit, I got to the correct room, but mapper only saves the first command.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I was gonna say, for instance, my amethyst sea cexit is "slither forward;slither forward;enter clam". So to mark that, I'd type "mapper cexit slither forward;;slither forward;;enter clam"
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fun fact: You can start the line with a ; and don't have to double them up at all. Helpful if you've got several commands, so do: ;mapper cexit open south;south
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I didn't know that1
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: What? :O Omg, that's super useful
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: incredibly
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: Quality of life improvement tip of the day
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It basically tells MUSH, "Hey, I don't want to command stack, so please escape all ; for me."
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I figured it out - I created a bad alias that only grabbed the command before the first ; *blushes*
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: bad alias, doing what you told it to do and not what you wanted it to do
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: aliases should udnerstand intent
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: exactly!
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: is it possible to just include a lua script for the CDATA section in plugins?
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i found the dofile stuff, but it doesn't seem to work for me
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: like dofile("luafule.lua")
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: yep, i tried it... let me double check the error i get
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: look at shindo's https://github.com/Shindo-Aardwolf/Mushclient-Consider  in the xml file
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: interestingly enough that was the first example i tried, but wasn't sure if the other stuff he had there was messing with me
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: can you define "doesn't seem to work"
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: yea... i had to try it again
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: so if i just do dofile ("filename.lua") I get a file not found.  It in the same folder as xml.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: that is what the GetPluginID stuffs is for
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: dofile (GetInfo(60) .. "/Mine/melvin.lua") --> That's what I have to pull up Lua. GetInfo(60) is the location of the plugins folder.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You have to establish the path to the file if it's not in the lua folder.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: ok, its working using Shindo's example now... i must have done somethign wrong my initial test. thanks fellas
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: easy enough to get  wrong, so many Upper and lower case variables and functions
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: yea, thats taking a bit used to with lua
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: which is why i want to do the dofile rather than edit the xml... this way i have colors to help me :)
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: code in c++ for a while, you'll learn every nuance matters
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: btw, i fixed my inventory serial issue (sorta...) it was one of the bast plugins that was interferring with it. I dont know which tho, as i removed them all, then added the little thigns i use back
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It was probably his eq/inv plugin, then.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: he did some really cool things with his stats collection, just a pity it gets in the way of so many more modern plugins
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: for my first plugin, i basically recreated the stat window, but I'd like to add a quest timer, quest mob/room/area, etc.  For those, you utlize triggers to scrape the data, right?  This isn't passed along in the background like gmcp data?
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: actually all that is done via gmcp
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: see the wiki
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: im on the wiki, i only see stats, base, worth, vitals, maxstats, status
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Bear in mind that in order to access quest timer info, you'll need to be in a group, and that quest timer info doesn't update unless group gmcp does (and quest timer does not update group gmcp)
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: comm.quest ....
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Gaelehad.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: aah ok, i see it now, t y
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: is there a way in dinv to promote the use of daggers over other weaponTypes?
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: get good daggers :p
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: besides the obivous way :D
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: what command does S&D use that is different than XMA room_name?
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: so are the next gen i5 somehow better than an older version of i7? otherwise I bought the wrong machine :-/
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: you can go to cpubenchmark.net or someplace similar and compare CPUs
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: seems there are lower i#s that are faster than higher i#s according to this site:  https://browser.geekbench.com/processor-benchmarks   
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: what process did you get?
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: processor*
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i'm sure faster ones are more pricey due to them being newer though
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: i5-3320, but my older one has an i7. Its not powered on, but i bought it like 3 years ago. Surely the newer one is better?
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: didn't you mention you were getting a laptop?
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i would think so.  3 years in cpu years is a pretty long time.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: the i5-3320M is a discontinued processor.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: yeah I picked it up this am. Its heavy as heck, but at least I got a windows license (ill figure out how to extract that) and a docking port
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: and its from 2012
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: laptops come with an OEM license for windows most of the time.  If it doesn't have an OEM sticker..... good luck.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: you can get windows keys from resellers for like, 20 bucks
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: found the stickers :) crap why didnt yall tell me that before :) i shouldve just gotten a system76 and had yall coach me through setting up wine
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: you talking about the ebay keys that last like 5 minutes before they taken down Veritheia? :P
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: ive seen em for $1.99!
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: can someone help me figure my plugin issues out? I'm just creating something simple to learn, but I have two issues I cannot work out. 1.  My plugin will not load when starting mushclient. It only works after mush has started. I know its gmcp values not being loaded yet, but can't get past it. 2.  It blinks alot :) Any help is appreciated! https://pastebin.com/x8ubsM6P
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: gonna guess it's getting refreshed by onpluginbroadcast and that's why it's blinking
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: yep, is there anyway to refresh it?
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: Well I just need something that works. And can find the right power cable to lol :) I needed Windows so I can beta test a game, get Ableton, hook up the eGPU. Ive always disliked Windows 10. Forgot to have them turn off S mode or whatever its called so I can use Mushclient
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: don't tie it to any time any plugin broadcasts? also, i don't know what you mean by your first problem but if it's just gmcp data not being loaded, you can ask the mud to send gmcp data when you log in
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: if take the refresh out of OnPluginRefresh, it never refreshes. For example, if i train wisdom, that stat doesn't go up. Whats odd is, it refreshes those numbers immeidately, not necessarily on a blink
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: well first, you probably want to have it only do something if it's the gmcp plugin broadcasting
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: second, you could make it only refresh if your hp/mp/mv changes
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: or even only if your hp/mp/mv changes by some amount or percentage.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: seems like that would require a while loop of some sort to check that on occasion, but when i look at examples in other scripts, i dont see while loops.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: No. Just put it in your onpluginbroadcast function
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: aah ok
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: if hp_old is different from hp_new by some criteria, refresh, hp_old = hp_new, else end
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: makes sense... there are a number of ways to do that. Now that I know what to look for, I can look for examples
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Regarding refreshing, you can check to see if the text received is of a certain type, and if it is, then refresh. If it's anything else (channels, for example), then don't refresh.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hi I'm here
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: HI
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I just sent furian a flurry of tells, but I'll put them here too
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: Let's make some ALPHA IMAGE stuff
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it's probably best to not re-create the whole window on every refresh. at the very least it's just not necessary. then, the blinking is because add_text by default does a draw after every time you call it
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so you end up creating a blank window, draw, add one line, draw, add another line, draw, and so on. the solution is to pass false for the second argument of add_text to prevent automatically drawing after the added line
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: and then call draw() on the miniwindow once at the end
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: thanks!  I'll try to rework that
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: if you want to see if a window already exists or not, I tend to call WindowInfo(id, 1) and see if it returns nil (doesn't exist) or some value (exists)
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: if it already exists, instead of creating it again, you can call clear(false) on it instead. the false is to not draw immediately after clearing
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: part of my problem is i need examples to figure it out.... there is plenty out there, but most are rather complex (to me,) so I'm having trouble putting it together.  My scripting background is only powershell, and very few windows :P
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I understand. I'm definitely going to add more examples. If you have...uhh....examples of what examples you want me to add, I'll prioritize those :)
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: right now i'm working on making it so that the miniwindows automatically delete themselves if you unload the plugin and then also to keep it around during a theme change (because that forces the plugin to reload) so that you don't have to worry about doing those things yourself.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the second part is a little trickier
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: I appreciate that.  I think the most basic of examples is good for anyone starting out. This is why i picked the stats. They are easy grab from gmcp and from the diy miniwin guide, it was relatively easy to put something together. It works for the most part, just minor (seemingly) issues to work out
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i noticed that everyone else seems to use a different method of creating windows (table.inserts), etc.  I was going to tackle this and get the hang of it, then try to move onto that.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I hope I don't need to change how themes work to not require reloading the plugins, but maybe I should
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: hrm
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Fiendish, is add_color_line in your documentation somewhere that I'm just not seeing?
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: replaced with add_text
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: add_text does both color coded text lines and styles
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: same functions? is there any problem if i just replace add_color-line with add_text or should i look more closely?
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: woot
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: no problem
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: also not strictly necessary
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I didn't remove the function, just not documented
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i dont see where to put the draw_after argument?  If i had this  stat_window:add_text("something") , where would it go?
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: "something, false)
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ("something", false)
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: who is tryin to help me with my plugins for some QP
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you can't afford me
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: not you
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: but also i COULD
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: my cost is either free or twice as much as you have at any given moment
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: dont gotta choose, man.  'murica.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: ive got 2 dollars
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: so 4 bucks is a steal
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: just kidding, but yeah
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: hardly worth stealing 4 bucks.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: wont even cover the cost of a doe tag...
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: if half the people you do business with dont tell you to go umm..go stuck yourself, your price isnt right :)
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: word
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HazeKnight Tech: no no, it's not half, the amount is parabolic somewhere
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: blinks gone :)
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yay
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: now i just need to figure how to make it load when mush starts :)
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: try a theme song when ya enter. like rocky or all of wee
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: how can i get the runto from S&D before going to the area?  If i hit ref, it only shows notes.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: S&D doesn't move you anywhere, mapper does. You'll show the route by using mapper commands
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: mapper where roomid
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: yes, i understand that, but when you are in the area, you have that option to see what the runto is.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: talk to Crowley
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, you can always do 'mapper where <room#>' to find that information.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: shouldn't be too hard to add yourself, though
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: all the functions are already existing, you just need to adopt them to your wants
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: yep, that works... just wasn't sure how to get the correct room number
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: it's a great way to learn, honestly
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The room numbers are always displayed with the links.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: nah, he wants the roomid for the starting room of an area
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: that doesn't get displayed, i think
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It does when you start the run. :p
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: the links when you get there, yes, but this was my first mob, and i got an error immediately upon clicking it, so i never got to the area to see thes runto links
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In the links, there's a {sw} that you can click to see the speedwalk.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You got an error on clicking the first mob?
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: yes, but you have to be in the general vicinity for those
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: you don't have a valid route to the area itself, i'm guessing?
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i figured it out.. I just ran to teh area, got the room #, then i did mapper where room#
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: i seem to be missing a portal.
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Are you on a room campaign?
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furian Tech: somehow i lost my petting zoo portal
T3/r7/2020-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: you keep what you kill
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: how do i get s$d and mapper to move into a different direction if the room is no portal 
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Go to the room, and try to enter a portal.
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: It'll automatically fail and flag the room as noportal.
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Then, SnD will no longer try to use a portal where.
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: i want it to portal in a different room though
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: can i make it do that
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Whenever I press my f1 key, it executes the alias I set to it correctly, but it also tries to launch "help".
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: How do I make it stop launching help?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mousie Tech: what's the link for the winds plugin?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Anyone know how xcp 1 works differently than fma 1?  Fma 1 returns all matching rooms from the mapper, whereaxe xcp 1 returns only the rooms of the area the mob is in?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No idea what fma is.
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: thought it was an anime
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boi Zyanya Tech: it's a command that searches for a mob in all areas
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Yep.  fma searches for a specific mobs in all areas and returns a list of those rooms the mob has been seen in.  fm does so, but only for the area you are in.  but xcp 1 seems to work just like if you were in the area, but I can't seem to use fm unless I am inside the area.
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: time to open up that xml
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boi Zyanya Tech: fm/fma is just to search the database. xcp 1 you'd use when on a cp/quest/gq. It should run to the area the 1st mob on the list is in
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boi Zyanya Tech: it's just like qq 1 on the other versions
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Yes I'm trying to mimic xcp 1 without auto running there.
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Auto running auto hunt tricking can be deadly as HC.
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered now
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: mushclient specific or plugins as well? :)
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: What is the average air speed velocity of a laden client?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: im going to assume that yes was to plugins as well. =p  I was to type a command say blah that runs owned 7 but I want to grep|hide all of that text and turn turn around and format it my own way.  How do I not only hide that text but feed it into a function so I can manipulate it?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: when you say "all of that text" do you mean the output or the command?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: the output of everything owned 7 displays including header and footer portions.
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: essentially im trying to append a [get] link on the end of it that grabs it from whatever container it is in.
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: but im pretty sure the only way to do that is to hide it and format it my own way right?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: correct
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: which part do you need help with?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Note to emulate a output similar to owned, with a hyperlink for actually getting the item?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: the hiding.  I want to hide only the output of the command and if possible not accidently hide any other mud output. 
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: and of course turn off the hiding right at the end of the output.
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ok...
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Have a trigger that toggles the main triggergroup when it sees the header and footer, I'd say
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I usually do that by having a trigger on the first line that turns on a regex trigger for matching invidual lines, as well as a footer trigger which disables those triggers
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I would go a step further
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Considering you'd need to trigger the output with owned command, could built it into a alias to active it even
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: complicated
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: make your alias activate your header trigger, make your header trigger activate your capture trigger, make a blank line trigger deactivate all of your triggers
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: owned has a footer, which is probably better to use than a blank line, so you don't accidentally trigger on other stuff that happens in the same game loop
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IAC DO Fiendish rolls his eyes.
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: ?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: if I do that Fiendish would the blank line above the footer turn off the capture trigger meaning the footer isn't captured?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: do you want the footer?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: are you planning to also do something with the footer?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it didn't sound like you were
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: would be nice.  trying to reproduce the exact output from owned 7.
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: irrelevant
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: if your triggers are done then the footer is the same
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I hate doing it, but I'm tempted to start sending you private tells because of the crosstalk
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: So lets say.  I run this command, would my formatted text display before the footer from owned 7 so it would still look the same?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: a trigger is processed immediately after the line comes in, so it'll hide the line and display the replacement output immediately, before processing the next line
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: is the rumor true that there's a version of snd for blowtorch?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: finger shindo for blowtorch stuff
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: thanks! I saw he has a mapper pluggin for blowtorch, is snd included in that?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: when turning on/off triggers and wanting them to start off.  How is this acheived?  Can I default it to off in the trigger, or should that be done during plugin installation?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: It can default to off. enabled="n" will do that.
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Er, that goes in the xml with the rest of the trigger info. If you're using the gui, just uncheck the enabled box.
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia goes: "No Problem!"
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: to be fair now that you mentioned that it stands out like a sore thumb and I shoulda of seen it. =\
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: hehe, nah, it's a lot of stuff.
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I think it's not clearly documented anywhere that the xml flags are what you get if you use the copy button on a trigger in the gui
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: When I EnableTrigger("name") is name the actual trigger matching I put in the trigger fields or the label?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: there's a name field
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yeah, sorry, the label
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: not to be confused with the field medal, or wrigley field.
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but if you're doing it in xml, the field is called "name"
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Ahh odd, you'd think they would match.  but good to know
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I think nothing
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: example here: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/worlds/plugins/aard_ASCII_map.xml#L89
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I might need to pester you about that once i figure out this regex crap.
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: how I know dinv needs a refresh: You remove Academy Graduation Medal from your chest.
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: any regex guru's out there?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I'm okay
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: guru, maybe not, but I know enough.
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I am one
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but I don't have a lot of time
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: anyone know if there's a way to change the backup delay for mapper when in combat? 5 seconds isn't ideal for me
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you can make the backups silent
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mapper backups quiet will silence those messages
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i often fight whole rooms so 5 seconds just spams me a bit as the fight goes on. i'd like to set it to 60 or so
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hmm...that's fair. this is not a priority for me to add at the moment because I'm still trying to get miniwindow stuff done, but if you or someone you know wants to make a PR to add a configuration for that I'd accept it. probably could just skip those messages during the fight entirely?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: woot
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: never do a pr with fiendish: he will end up rewriting your code better than you anyway
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: pr?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: pull request
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: yo Fiend gimme a call u still got my number
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: kk. ty
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: new phone, probably not
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: gorsk: new code submission
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gofer Tech: new phone, who dis?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: also it's late and i'm in bed. i'm not calling anyone right now
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: thats what im talking about Gofer
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: new mush who dis
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: u coulda said that in the first place
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Fiendish, I assume the code for drawing the graphical mapper is in _mapper.xml?
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: in the lua
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: aardmapper.lua
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: aardmapper.Lua/1s
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: why, what are you doing
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: its odd a bit but its there
T3/r7/2020-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: i may be saying things i shouldnt
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anime-niac Kimetsu Tech: So here is an ...odd... question. Is there anything fundamentally different about Onyx Bazaar from any other area in the MUD?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: insufficient parameters
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anime-niac Kimetsu Tech: whenever I have gone to Onyx tonight my MUSH has frozen and I have had to disconnect then reconnect and get out of Onyx before it does the initial "look around" and freezes again.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IAC DO Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anime-niac Kimetsu Tech: every other area I have gone to has been fine.  it is JUST Onyx
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: how are you going there?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: start disabling extraneous plugins until you find one that does it
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anime-niac Kimetsu Tech: yeah that is what I was afraid of.  Strange it is just Onyx though.  Thanks again Fiendish
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: no way to know if that's strange until you see what's causing it
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: if I have a function that is passed in objectid and containerid how can I send those values to the mud?  Send("get objectid from containerid")?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: Send("get "..objectid.." from "..containerid)
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: hrm drats it's a nil value.  will play around with it thanks!
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: yeah...gonna blame that death on crowley (kidding of course)...but his plugin took me through an SH area trying to get to dusk valley lol XD Learning lessons the hard way
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: S&D does not make routes
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Crowley's plugin didn't do that.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: It was Nick Gammon's plugin that did!
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: yeah i know it's the mapper lol, finds the shortest route...even if it takes you through bad areas....
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I'd want to adopt, since that way I can help a kid out of a bad situation at the same time I get a kid of my own. And I get to skip the changing diapers part, heh
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: hmm, mis
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Evine, you can use lockexits to ensure you don't go through SH areas until you're high level.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: whose plugin?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the pathfinding is mine
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: So is Crowley's SnD script worthless for room cps and gqs or am I doing something wrong?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: YOU'RE worthless for room cps and gqs (sicc) 
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: lol
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: no, but you might be doing it wrong. do you have rooms explored
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: but true.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Would be dependant on how fleshed out your mapper database is
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Cexits and portals go a long way
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: I have a good database. It's something else.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: cexits, portals. All that jazz.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: area cps and gqs work fine.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: room ones are all in red.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: I mean SnD does better on room name cps than area names...
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Wierd
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: That doesn't sound like an issue with SnD.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: I'm doing something wrong though...
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Your mapper is busted somehow.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: May be that for some reason the thing cant read your mapper databse possibly...
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: well, maybe reinstall SnD, see if that helps hehe
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: I'll try that. Thanks.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: All showing red means its trying to check for the rooms but its not finding them...and if all red, means there's a issue between the mapper database and the script
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: For what its worth, the area would work because its a different database anyrate...
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: I'm gonna try 'xset index areas' and see if that works...
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What was the code for making a pop-up window with a message appear in MUSHclient again?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: you need to know the summon Fiendish incantation
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: util.msgbox
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: utils.msgbox**
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: ive never seen such magic before!
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: try this in control+i    print (utils.msgbox ("Khadaji rules")) --> ok
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: oh cool, thanks Khadaji
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: all good?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: just test it with \\\utils.msgbox("wombats")
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: cool
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: where do i send the invoice, its only 3 easy payments of 1,999,999 qp
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: lol, have fun
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: hey this aint QVC
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexifelis Tech: or is it??
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: order within the next 10 minutes and get free S&H
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rexifelis thinks really hard and something behind his eyes burns out...
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mousie Tech: how do i figure out what directory my mushclient is in? I just have an icon on my task bar.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: right click on the icon and select properties (i thinks) then peek in there
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mousie Tech: i only have unping from taskbar and close when i do that
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: oh, task bar. sorry i can't read today
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boi Zyanya Tech: ctrl+shift+p look at your plugin paths
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mousie Tech: ty
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: type control+alt+g, click add current world, and thats the path
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: then remove that again
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: yeah, what Zyanya said, it shows the full path in files part
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: theres also a getinfo for it, but i forgot
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=GetInfo
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: 56-60
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: assuming Win10, if you right-click on the icon in the taskbar, you should have three lines: "Aardwolf", "Unpin from Taskbar" and "Close Window". Right-click again on "Aardwolf" and you should be able to select the "Properties".
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: so print(GetInfo(54))
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: in immediate would show your path
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: hello. I am using v4.61 of search and destroy and my ht does not seem to be working anymore. If I am in tirna, I use to be able to ht slave and it would take me to the palace but now it does not move my chracter. I have reinstalled it and it did not fix it.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: any idea of what I am doing wrong?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: you mean ah and not ht?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: ht will find the room your campaign target is in, ah will hunt your target
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: ht doesn't move you. ah (autohunt) does.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley thanks Gaelehad heartily.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: oh...I see. Thank you.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Had me concerned for a minute. I was about to go looking through the code to find out what was wrong, but then Greybeard noticed the mistake. I should drink more coffee before starting work each morning.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Greybeard snickers with (Aleister) Crowley about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: I am glad I did not make extra work for you. Thanks Greybeard. I totally forgot about ah. Doh!
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Heh, I finally figured out why Titans' Keep is often 'red' in campgains and gqs. Easy fix, too.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: that makes me very happy :D
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, because Starling had it marked as 'noquest', thinking you cannot get quests to Titans' Keep.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: because when i first starting sitting at SH again, titan was new to me and i didn't like asking for help so much
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: oh sure blame starling
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: i now realize that question may not have been directed at me
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers with [Battle] Scars about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Fiendish, are you taking questions at the moment?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: NO
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I mean yes
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: always
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: thanks, all I wanted to know.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IAC DO Fiendish nods at [Outlaw] Mendaloth.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Heh. Okay, the GMCP mapper colorizes rooms based on room flags, terrain, or some other status. It can really only choose one color but I couldn't figure out how it chooses or prioritizes the flags/colors.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: haha
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: idk, there's some code that does it I guess
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Oh, hmm, I hadn't thought of that
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: why, what's up
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: I was thinking I might like to change the priority if I could
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: is the change universally good?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Probably not
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Well I was even thinking, if I could, to add new colors based on certain room flags
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: See https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/worlds/plugins/aard_GMCP_mapper.xml#L2199-L2259    I don't change the mapper often, but I think you'll want to figure out a way to make your changes without preventing future updates. I am going to go back to rewriting the mapper drawing entirely at _some_ point
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it's getting stale
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Ahh, I was looking in the aardmapper.lua file
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Which, I suppose, is also important
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Thanks. I've already made some changes to some of your default plugins so I've just been saving a backup copy for when they invariably get overwritten when I install a new mush version :P
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: no worries
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'll definitely announce it if I ever actually do it
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: though I do still periodically fix bugs and whatever
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish: Maybe in the changelog (for the future) you can indicate which files have been modified so people are aware.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: that sounds like a lot of work
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, I suppose it is if you change code in 12 files.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: crowley? is there a fix for evil imm mobs not showing up in both soh and sohtwo?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not currently. I'm hoping it'll be addressed in the next update, though.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Rather, hoping to address it.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: any news on the mob DB? =(
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's one of the reasons for the database, too.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm working on it right now.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Calm Stormwind goes, "Whee!"
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: ty :D
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just trying to figure out some things before I try implementing it into the actual code. I had the code as a separate plugin for a long while, so integrating it is a bit of a different process.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: okay this is like plane flying into the mountain level of disaster to my reputation afk. I had to run home to decide on another solution to why Im getting errors about wattage problems on a new windows laptop. Think the onboard diagnostics F5 said something like short shelf testing error. Did I bring the wrong charger along or what?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: what?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: Well Im away from the problematic laptop for a few, but it worked here okay. But at the hotel it starts giving me all these error messages. Think the options were F1, F2, or F5 (the diagnostics)
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: so ... what is it you are worried about?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Heh, adding 'snd reload' to my local copy really helps when testing things.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It'll be added to the public version, too, so no more having to open up the plugin manager.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushquestion clients answered nowish
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Why doesn't it come with a waifu theme as default?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: make a good one
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sweet! Now I have SnD creating a database if it doesn't exist, and indexing areas. It's also smart enough to ignore areas if it already exists in the database. Whee!
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Battle] Scars tosses (Aleister) Crowley up in the air, he loves it!
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: what's in the database?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sath: Areas and mobs. I'm reworking how SnD indexes areas to hopefully prevent future 'red' areas when you've already mapped them.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The mobs will be added upon cp/q kills.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Debating allowing it to add other mobs, but that's a bit harder to do without resorting to consider.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Anyway, family time!
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mousie Tech: how do i log my session?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: ctrl+shift+j
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Or... it's probably also in the file menu somewhere.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mousie Tech: then how do i put that log into a note? like how do i read the session log
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Do you know your alphabet?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mousie Tech: sorry i'm not techy i dont know what u mean
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Oh sorry - my bad, I thought you were asking us to teach you to read!
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Any ways, I think you have to open it in a text reader like Notepad?  Where did you have it save.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mousie Tech: that's my question where does it save
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: alt 3 brings up the menu for automatically logging.  You chose the location where the files are saved, the format is boring so your computer already has programs that can read them.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm debating releasing the new version of SnD with the mob database but without it automatically searching for the mob (for the moment). That way, people can build up their mob database and and still manually search for the mob in the meantime.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: What do you mean automatically searching?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: i'd like that. i'd love the functionality to change what it tries to use as the name of the mob
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Alison: I mean when you type 'xcp 1', it'll act as it normally does (which is run to the area and hunt trick or quick where) rather than do a search to find the most likely rooms.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: That's what Pwar's already does, and I prefer it that way, it creates more accurate results for mobs that move around a lot.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Downside might be that people get excited enough to start pressuring you (well, more than they do already :P) to get the rest done.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: It just adds a % likelihood next to each result, which helps me determine the most likely room if there's multiple copies.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Alison: I may incorporate that into the features then, rather than do a search for the mob in the area.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There's a bit more I want to do with the mob database, but I'd been talking about it for months now and haven't released an update yet.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Figure what better way to start off the new year than with a new version of SnD? :P
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: So if I "where" a chef as being in "a kitchen", and there are 3 kitchens in the area, it might show 100% on the first kitchen room (and automatically put it at the top) if the chef is always in that kitchen. That combines the use of where and the mob database to help me find the exact room.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Princess Alison.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I like that idea.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Using 'where' and sorting by likelihood of the mob being in a specific room. Hmm.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: If the chef repops in one kitchen but moves around to the others occasionally, maybe it's 60% in the first kitchen and 20% in the others. So I know to go to the first kitchen first to check, and then the others.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Although in GQs it uses mob database only
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'll release it. Right now, you have to manually search for it. It won't pop up off quickwhere or anything, but I'll add that feature in a bit. In the meantime, you'll be able to do 'ms [area|here] [mob name] in order to find the mob requested.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Random question. If I have something like 50 lines I want to trigger on, and they all call the same script, is it more efficient (for the client) to write 50 triggers or one trigger with 50 alternations in the match? I'm guessing probably the former?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: at development time, it would probably be easier to use separate triggers.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: at runtime, there shouldnt be much difference.  if either way is slow enough to notice, then you are doing something wrong.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: that being said, it might maybe be worthwhile thinking about separate triggers linked in series - one that turns on the next, that turns on the next, and turns off the previous, kind of thing.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: i mean, aesthetically 1 trigger is cleaner than 50 if you care for that sort of thing
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: how different are these lines, Areia?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: This sounds like a job for Captain Regex
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: clearly, you have never tried to build a pattern-matcher that can handle 50 different inputs, g.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Princess Alison.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I love regex.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley has!
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: regex will help alot, if they are mostly very similar...
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: what is regex?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: if they dont mostly follow a single pattern, then regex wont be very helpful.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's a pattern matching language.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Feihu, it's short for regular expression
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nah, even then regex is helpful, Mannec.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Not certain I could easily write a regex to capture exactly what I want. or at least, it would be complicated. Looking to trigger on the damage lines, so the damage verbs are always different lengths, and the actor and object can be variable lenths and contain variable chars too.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: Regular Expressions - its a way of describing patterns of text instead of relying on exact strings.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ah, damage lines.  in that case, the only real hard part is dealing with multiple-word mob names.  regex is a good tool for the rest of it - and with a little more work, can do the mob names too.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Yeah.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: what parts of the lines do you actually care about?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Areia: Your .* (does UNSPEAKABLE|<-:-><-*-:-><-*-> SUPERNOVAS...|yadda|yedda)
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Areia, maybe you could just capture the actual damage number?
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Imagine using regular damage output instead of basic damage output
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, there are not 50 damage verbs.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Princess Alison grins evilly.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Oh there aren't? I must've miscounted then :P
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Just kidding. But more seriously, I would do what veritheia suggested.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: The square brackets before the damage number are pretty unique, so it's hard to misfire. Especially if you have a "your" at the start to trigger off.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: if you only really care about the damage type and amount, then it gets alot easier to build a trigger for :p
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I think all the damage lines end with exclamation points too.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Well, ideally I'd like to capture damtype, name of the person doing the damage, name of the person receiving the damage.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: and obv number of hits and damage amount, but like was said those are easy.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: I'll just do one trigger with lots of |s. That should work fine.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i went thru something similar when the critical hits were introduced.  had to do something to get rid of those damn leading asterisks.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia nods at Mannec.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: good luck trying to pattern match a star in an old slightly-bugged non-regex client - it aint easy, i can tell you.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Er, that's pretty simple...
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: in a functional regex-enabled client? sure.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Even in MUSh.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ... you aint listening, man.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you're using MUSH, it's easy. :p
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you're not, can't help you there.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: that would be the implication, yes.
T3/r7/2020-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tobe ornot Tobe Tech: new keyboard, keys are way easier to press than I'm used to, and in a slightly different position... I just tried to 'funto ft1'