T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 Gamer ZzZzZz Tech: Hi, is it fine to use ethanol to wipe mouse clean ?
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: isopropyl/rubbing alcohol is better, evaporates quicker
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 Gamer ZzZzZz thanks Nohh heartily.
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: if you're just using a little bit to rub the outside and it's not on i'm sure it doesn't matter
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 Gamer ZzZzZz Tech: But will it not eat away the the black paint next to the trasperent parts that shows the led light ?
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 Gamer ZzZzZz Tech: Nevermind, come to think the mouse plastic is not painted, it should be the colour of the material it self.
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: it is conductive so just don't get any on the electronics when it's powered on, other than that should be fine in small doses
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 Gamer ZzZzZz Tech: Didnt know it is conductive, thanks for tip again.
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Something is calling cp check on campaign complete twice. Other than the standard SnD, what plugins could be causing this?
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I checked, I don't have 2 SnDs
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: one of the bast plugins, maybe
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: if you use the stat tracker
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I don't have any bast plugins afaict
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Stat tracker = "statmon"?
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: no
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: One of the VI plugins does that by default, though I doubt you have any of those installed either...
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I might!
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I moved to a new computer recently and had to reinstall all my plugins
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: if it comes with MUSH, it may have snuck into my plugins folder and been uploaded when I mass installed everything
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: It's aard_vi_review_buffers IIRC.
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Which plugin is it areia?
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: got it
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Hm, I got rid of review_buffers, but now I'm getting a new issue.
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Every time I kill a CP mob, this error message pops up
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: https://pastebin.com/jFyaMd8p
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I need to go to breakfast soon but I'll check back later to see if it's an issue with a plugin
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Worst case scenario I'll disable every plugin one after another until I find out what causes it.
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Huh. No clue how removing vi review buffers plugin would break S&D. lol
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: The answer is that computers are black magic. :D
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I'll do it the hard way and disable plugins until the error stops happening. Then I can narrow down the cause of the error and figure out what's going on.
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I guess there's a chance that the plugin itself is broken somehow.
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: then I'd have to get an alternate version of SnD
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia points excitedly at (Aleister) Crowley!
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Oh, here's an easier problem.
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I want to use f1 as a macro key, but every time I hit f1, it gives me an "aardwolf help" popup.
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: What's the fix?
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oh Fuuudge Kya Tech: Check in your Mush global preferences, in the general tab, if f1-f6 are macros is checked. I think that's what I had to do but it's been a while
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Got it.
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: That works, thanks!
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Found the issue. It was a plugin called "winklewinkle_quest_status".
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Any idea what's gagging my ability to view bid/lbid items?
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: type auction
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: When I type lbid <number> nothing happens, when I type bid <number> I can see the current bid (current bid is XXX) but not the stats
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Nah, I can see them being auctioned, I can't view the "details"
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ah, I guess you have some smart plugin
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: yikes, have to do another plugin troubleshoot huh :P
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably it was meant to catch bid/lbid output and show it in separate window or something like that
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: pretty simple to check - log in using pure telnet and lbid any item, if you see stats then it is definitely plugin problem
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: I play from two different PCs connected to the same router. PC 1 is Windows 8.1, wired to the router with CAT-5 ethernet, PC 2 is Windows 7 on the wifi.  Until this evening both connected just fine to this game, and now PC 2 keeps timing out with "Connection closed by the server" when trying to connect to the login screen.
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: have already reinstalled the Mushclient on PC 2, that at least got me the "what is your name" prompt before it too was closed by server
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: maybe the wifi router needs a reset?
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: yeah sounds more like a network problem
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Did you try turing it off and back on again?
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: lol I literally work in support so yeah I'm just checking to see whether anyone else has been experiencing problems
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: I'm 99% sure it's the router
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: well i connected fine about 90 minutes ago and no one else has mentioned anything that i've seen
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: then again, if they couldn't connect they wouldn't be here to tell us about it
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: then again people who can't connect to the MUD usually have a hard time asking for help here
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: exactly lol
T3/r7/2021-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: I'll cycle everything and see if that helps
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: So I have a question about search and destroy plugin. I'm on a campain and when I type cp check I get this Trigger function "xcp_index_line" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: Anyone know how to fix it?
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reload the plugin
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: once it errors out you have to reload
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: how do I do that?
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: its same for any plugin really. reboot mush
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: means something, typically killing two mobs before it could recheck, caused it to die, use the plugins system to reload it 
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an easy way is to quit/relaunch MUSH, otherwise go to file -> plugins, select it, then reinstall
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: same window you add it from, has a reinstall button
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: press ctrl+shift+p then find it, highlight it and press the reload button
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: in my experience its own reload function doesnt really fix it if it errors out
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: Awesome Thank you 
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a plugin can't reload itself, although you could have an alias outside the plugin to do it
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: I closed mush and it's working now
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Can have a manager plugin that reloads it i guess
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: I have never had that happen and I'm not very good with plugins and all that tech stuff
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yep gladacus
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: yeah the ones that have branching linked scripts can sometimes reload each other well enough
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: But yeah, can see why reloading in a plugin borders on paradox...
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: plugins can reload themselves by executing something like \\\\DoAfterSpecial(1, "ReloadPlugin('plugin_id')", sendto.script)
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but if it was already in a state that it wasn't working, would it do that?
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: it depends
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Was thinking a delay would change that as its no longer the plugin itself really calling a re-enable from a disabled plugin...or thats how i mentslize it
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: as long as the issue isnt in the same block as the reload, guess it'd work as everything but the glitched function/block works normally
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: here's a good thread on the topic from the MUSHclient author: https://www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=9615
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: while he may have changed the behavior since then, his "Reply #7" seems to indicate that DoAfterSpecial on its own wouldn't actually get around the issue
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: yeah i forgot where i stole my reload function from, but it calls execute, to do the DoAfterSpecial but also prepends the client's 'script prefix' that you use to run things from the command lind
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: probably as a part of one of the plugins that can auto-update
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: like Crowley's?
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: well yeah his SnD can do that, dinv can do it as well
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Hey all, small tech problem. It's a bit of an open secret that the WinkleGold spellup plugin that Pwar hosts on his plugin manager is bugged and doesn't work with timered spells.
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: What's the best solution? I've just been running "spellup learned silent" on a 30 second timer
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: But that spams my notes sometimes
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: you can use gmcp char.status to check whether you in notes (or sleeping etc) before you issue the spellup
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: That's actually very smart!
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Thank you for the idea.
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Princess Alison beams a smile at Kagaku.
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: np
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: figured out my problem from last night
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: when I woke my work laptop, the laptop automatically reconnected to the work VPN.  no route to the server through that 
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Choke and Gag Tech: by any chance is there someone who knows how to use api service with curl (or anything similar to curl) ?
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faithful Ruhamah nods at Choke and Gag.
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: custom programming help offered, accepting tips in TPs, gold, levels, or friendship :P
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Choke and Gag Tech: im trying to use a xml file using post method (for eurodns api) but i cant find the correct syntax, it keeps saying no xml file
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: https://www.baeldung.com/curl-rest
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Choke and Gag Tech: from their website: The XML code has to be encoded twice to contain only URL safe characters and must be sent using the HTML POST method
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Choke and Gag Tech: i tried to use header x-www-urlencoded (dont remember the exact name) but still  same error
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: link ?
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Choke and Gag Tech: https://agent.api-eurodns.com/doc/general/connect
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Choke and Gag Tech: im sure im not far from the solution, thats makes me even more mad :)
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Choke and Gag Tech: wife calling for diner, brb
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you really need that xml? it seems that OPNsense supports Eurodns : https://github.com/opnsense/plugins/blob/00f7b872d39dcfba536b25d456e3c00c8e8f73df/dns/dyndns/src/etc/inc/plugins.inc.d/dyndns/phpDynDNS.inc
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Choke and Gag Tech: hmm that sounds very promising, ill take a look at it tomorrow at work
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Choke and Gag falls on his knees and worships Trachx.
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: am I going to mess something up if I try to deploy a hyper-v server without really knowing what I'm doing
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Perryn Tech: can you set an alias to use dinv portal? I tried, but when used it said "There is no portal in Aardwolf."
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: There's a Send To: dropdown in the alias dialog. Make sure it's set to Execute
T3/r7/2021-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Perryn Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: anyone know about the mushclient
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: sup?
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: i've heard of it sure
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Mush?
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: what? :)
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: so i installs it today and it tripped my antimalware
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Do you have a client?
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: its detecting on openssl.dll
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: assuming you downloaded it from https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: if so your antivirus is probably just being stupid as they often are
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/releases/download/r2017/Aardwolf_MUSHclient_r2017.exe
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: i see, that's an old version
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: go to my link and get the latest
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: thats what is linked on the website
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: website isnt updated as often as Mush is
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: it may have just flagged it for having an old openssl which has some known vulnerabilities, no idea
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: Hey I update myself every nap
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: it detected it with its machine learning engine, not the malware engine
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: I JUST installed it a couple of days ago from the r2017 link. No infection. Didn't even set off my ODS or trip my vpn.
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: i'll try the fresh one, will report
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: IDS*
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: I outsource all my cybersec (mobile) to protectstar ... 
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: it's definitely not 'infected' with anything
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: i'm too dumb to gethub
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: and if you're ever worried about a file, you can use virustotal to have it scanned by a large number of different antivirus software to get second/third/.../fiftieth opinions
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: it's flagged as basically an IRC client by one antivirus list
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: i use sophos
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: you don't have to 'github' you just go to https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/ and 'Download r2149 with visuals' assuming you aren't visually impaired
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: I cant figure out how to open the reports back up from virustotal. think ive dropped the phone too many times
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: okay, it didnt bite on the newer version
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: cool beans
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: ooh fancypants
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: does this only work on aardwolf?
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: no but all the neat map stuff will only work on aardwolf. it's specific to things in aardwolf
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: the client would work for other muds, but a lot of the plugins fiendish added to the package are aard specific
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: what are these number buttons at the top?
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: i see
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: i turned off all the toolbars
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well the client does let you connect to multiple muds at once... the numbers are those tabs
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: 1 being default and generally aard main port, testers for one might use the 2nd tab for test port as a example
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: seems like it would encourage cheating
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: how would it encourage cheating?
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: it's really difficult to do any of the kind of maps you see here in a MUD that isn't giving you the room ID.
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: well you're allowed to be connected to the testport and live at the same time, and there is detection for multiple logins to live at the same time
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well there are allowances and if 2 of the same IP joins the same server, like main or test, it sets off alarms
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: Doesn't encourage cheating any more than just opening the client twice.
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: how do you  handle roommates or partners that both play from the same ip?
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: I mean, some may have 3 tabs just for aard
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Welwillend Welding Tech: help multiplay; will have to write a note to imms about it if more than one person is playing from same ip
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: they tend to out themselves over time, respond to tells in the wrong window, etc...and there are other signs.
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: post a note, there's alot that do share ip
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: there is no way my wife is playing a text based rpg
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: - h 11
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: The internet is full of people surprised by things their wife (or partner) did that they "would never do".
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: lol like forget the vows they made? :)
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: perhaps
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: Only switched into this window to do this ...
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Is there a way to rapidly swap what the keypad buttons do? For example, if I'm doing PK I want my keypad to have a certain configuration of macros, and if I'm pupping I want my keypad to have another configuration.
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I'd like to be able to type a command to switch my keypad between "PK mode" and "pupping mode".
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=Accelerator would probably work
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: haven't done it myself though
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: also there's two keypads. Keypad and CTRL+Key.
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Would that affect the keypad or the main keyboard? eg. let's say I want 8 on the keypad to be "north". Does that mean if I hit 8 on my actual keyboard it'll also go north?
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Oht, it's "numpadX".
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I see. Thank you so much tiny
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 Gamer ZzZzZz Tech: Hi, "dinv set wear mage" is not working anymore, I get this 2 errors. DINV inv.priority.get: Priority "mage" is not in the priority table   and   DINV inv.set.createAndWear: Priority "mage" does not have a priority table for level 200   any help please ?
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: ctrl + shift + k doesn't disconnect me any more even though it used to. What am I doing wrong?
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Other shortcuts, like ctrl + n, work.
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Hm, tested it out a bit more. Left shift does'nt work for shortcuts (it properly capitalizes letters when I use it, so the problem is not with the key), but the right shift key does.
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: who maintains the mush client?
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: thats a complicated situation.  the answer is, technically noone - but ask fiendish.
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: i thought a nice feature might be a help file browser
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: at the bottom layer, there is 'mushclient'.  on top of that, a stack of settings and modifications makes it what you might call 'aardmush'.
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: and of course a decently large pile of optional plugins...
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: personally, i dont use it - but my understanding is the help files/functions are pretty decent.
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: i like the map, its cute, but runto sort of makes it irrelevant
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: thats my thoughts.  there is room for improvement when you integrate other utilities with the mapper, tho.
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cedrick Tech: how to set search and destroy to auto refresh after I kill my target mob?
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: I need to write a plugin that snipes auctions at the last second.
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: just keep ur eye on that ball
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: auctions always reset to 100 seconds after a new bid
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: if u really wanted it bid high enough that u think someone wont bid
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: or u can just automate everything and take the fun outta the game
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: thats all i have to say
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you can ... but you may not
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: full on auction bots are against the rules
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: you can use scripts to make some aspects of it easier though
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: How do I log all the auction barter data that goes through via mush? is there a plugin to use? is it just a filter? im such a dunce
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: either turn all logging on, to html or plain text, and then grep it out of there or write a plugin
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: https://mikeride.chaosnet.org/abelinc/stats/ has logs including auctions, although they only update periodically.
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: right click on comm window there is logging option
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: i dont know what to put in preable or postamble. ill try to read some helpfiles tomorrow on what to do. thanks yall :)
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you don't "need" a preamble but it does help with formating
T3/r7/2021-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: there is an thml preamble thingy that forces the display to obey all linebreaks etc but it's been to long since i set one up
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: Can anyone tell me how to delete a chaos portal from mapper? I tried mapper portal delete <ID number>, <areaname> and the # on the portals list. 
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: also tried mapper portal delete chaos
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: mapper delete portal #<number>
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: you need the #
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: Thanks, so I had it backwards :)
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: anyone use BlowTorch.how to use Cp plugin?
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Anyone know where to change the states folder location?
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: uh maybe File > Global Preferences > Plugins
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Thanks, I'll try that!
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: So I accidentally changed the plugin state directory, anyone know how to change it back? file > Global Preferences > plugins is only for the plugins.
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I had to use an old version of mushclient_prefs.sqlite to get the state directory correct.
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: read last
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: anyone have any tips for figuring out required version numbers for plugins?
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: each plugin has a minimum version needed in the metadata at the top of the file(should at least)
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I'm asking about figuring out what number to put there in new plugins
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: Are you asking how to tell what version of the client you are using?
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I'm asking how to tell what version of mushclient my plugin code will require
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lol
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I don't know of any shortcut to figuring out how your plugin will work on past versions of Mush other than installing them and trying
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: safest way is probably to pick the version of mushclient you have..otherwise binary search backwards through versions and see what breaks
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: people can upgrade to the latest version, just put whatever version you're using.. it really doesn't matter
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Fiendish and such might know some tricks there
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: is there not a mushclient changelog anywhere I could use for hints?
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: google nick gammon mushclient
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: why would you spend any time worrying about that
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I think there is on the github page.. I mean you could at least go through the commit history
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I feel like I've seen a changelog somewhere...
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: because I want to write plugins, and they have a required version number as one of their fields and if I give a number too low then my plugin will cause issues on some clients and if I give a number too high my plugin won't install on some clients
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: mmm I don't think the second is true AFAIK
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: people can and should always be running the latest or at least a somewhat recent version
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: but i don't think mushclient really changes all that much
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: even if you require a higher number than is actually needed I don't think Mush will stop someone on a lower version from installing
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: but they aren't and I still want them to be able to use my plugins
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: worry about it if it ever becomes an issue in the future
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I had used my mushclient version number on a plugin on got feedback that someone couldn't install it because of the required version number
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it's an issue now
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmm.. that's kind of annoying
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I think it makes plenty of sense, I just need a reasonable way to figure out what version number my code actually requires
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I guess I'll see if I can catch fiendish around, he probably knows
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: okay the answer is version 3.0
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if your plugin doesn't interact with anything really low-level in the client.. it's probably safe to specify a pretty low number
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: and if you specify a version too low and it breaks, well... then they definitely should upgrade their old ass client
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if you want to tell us a summary of what sort of things your plugin does.. we could probably give you a level of confidence
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I guess probably the version number would be determined by the plugin callbacks
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: OnPluginBroadcast etc
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: those seem like they'd probably be the highest requirement my plugins would have
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: the usual approach to this sort of thing is to choose either the most current version, or the previous one, and build to it - if other folks arent happy, they can upgrade.
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: this helps drive the 'new phone every year' crowd.
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: be nice if dinv set showmap
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: why would an inventory manager need to worry about a map?
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you could try installing an older version of mush (if you can find it) in a separate directory and login/install your plugin and test it
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if you use a pretty old version and your plugin works then you can "certify" it for probably every version in between
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well its the equivalent of asking for gmcp mapper to auto equip disarmed weapons, lol
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: that's what I would do personally if you want virtually everyone to be able to use it
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: alternatively, set a really low version and wait for people to tell you it doesn't work (lazy approach)
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Still doubt versions effect scripts much unless you run a fancy miniwindow plugin on a client pre dating the customisation options
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: i have an addon i made a year ago, it 'requires' 5.06.. and right now i'm running.. 5.07... it's not exactly a fast moving target, how long have these people gone without updating
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: *cough* windows 2000 *cough*
T3/r7/2021-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: this is interesting. "cast 360 2.'soul adult'" seems to ignore the second keyword (adult), but "look 2.'soul adult'" doesn't: https://imgur.com/a/7HK9I5A
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: has anyone played around with using GetLinesInBufferCount/DeleteLines/GetStyleInfo/etc to wipe and replace segments of the output buffer?
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Perryn Tech: Is there a way to move over my mapper file to a new computer? What about aliases?
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Your mapper database is aardwolf.db. Your aliases are in worlds\aardwolf.mcl
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: Perryn, if you are using mushclient you can just copy the whole mushclient folder over to the new machine. Then create shortcuts on desktop etc. OR you can do a clean install then copy the original folder over the top of it
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: You should be able to just copy/paste your whole mush client folder over though
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: I have multiple versions of mushclient installed, one for each of me, I and myself
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Perryn Tech: ah, thanks for that! Laptop just crashed, so I'm trying to figure it out on the fly. :)
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Perryn snickers with Sheriff Shindo about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: anyone using mushclient in windows able to confirm bugs note 19432?
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: umm, I also had issues running it from Desktop.. didn't know what the problem was though.. reinstalled it by manually choosing Users folder and that worked fine
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not sure how to determine whether that's the issue though
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: never ran into UAC running from user desktop
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: I'm running it from desktop without issues, so I don't know what's going on.
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IAC DO Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Intuition Tech: Is there a way to reload the cached lua file required in an alias / trigger that is not in a plugin?
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ctrl+shift+r
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Intuition Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: or Game->Reload Script File
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Intuition Tech: nod
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Your Intuition nods.
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I wonder what it is that causes some people to not be able to run from the desktop
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: ummm disability? Ive got a hundred original songs on my NUC that are worth a lot of money that I cant figure out how to extract from the NUC system before reinstalling. i have problems with sequential process. Polite as usual!
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IAC DO Fiendish comforts SNEAKER Mushambo.
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I was hoping for a software problem that I can fix :(
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: that is a software problem really
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: only if I can understand all the variables
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: easiest way is to get a linux live CD and load it on the nuc and mount the internal drive and copy the files off to a USB
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: its probably windows related :P lol
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: who cares? linux can mount ntfs now lol
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: does the nuc even have a cd drive, a live usb will probably be better
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: getting a bootable linux usb key takes me like a dozen tries every time. I'm not sure I'd call it easy
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: the linux image for a usb drive is still called a livecd on most downloads page lol don't ask me why
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: just use rufus portal USB boot drive creator
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: it's usually just dd src_image dst_drv
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: works every time for me
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: portable*
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illivex Tech: its more finding a usb stick that likes to be recognized and boot
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illivex Tech: why cant you reinstall the os without repartitioning/format?
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: windows 8.1 was the first windows to support a "refresh" install
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: years ago (as in when usb boot started to be available) that was a problem, but I've not had any problems booting from usb for a long time
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: if it has a uuid and can be read/written to on the machine it can be made a boot drive
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: if it's windows 10 on a nuc probably need to export your keys and turn secure boot off in the bios before accessing the drive.
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: then remember to turn it back on and gen new keys or import your old before reinstalling
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: other wise you're looking at about 19 hours per TB of taking ownership of any non-windows files before you can use them lol
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krometheus Tech: how do I enter a return on my triggers
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krometheus Tech: using mush
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: assuming you are using Mushclient, just hit return in the Send window to go to a newline.  Mushclient will interpret that and send a return to the mud when the trigger is activated
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krometheus Tech: ah....how about pauses
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: mush from fiendish?
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krometheus Tech: gammon
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=1063
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: looks like you would hit enter for a newline and then world.doafter [some number in seconds], "do an action"
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: so for example world.doafter(5), "get potion from bag"
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krometheus Tech: ah, thanks much
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: sorry, correcting my syntax: world.doafter 5, "get potion from bag"
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: mixing my C++/Java into your... whatever language this is lol
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: DoAfter(5, "get potion bag")
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: yeah that's a more C++'ey way to call the function.
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Well, the () aren't optional in lua. And it's case sensitive.
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: I just tried it both ways and both failed
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: DoAfter(1, "echo test") fails?
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: yes, it fails as well
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: I just typed that directly into the send subwindow of the Triggers menu
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Do you have the alias (I assume you're trying it in an alias) sending to script?
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: oh, no, I haven't built anything else out
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia nods.
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: I thought this was a native function
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Oh no, it's part of Mush.
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: I meant I thought it was a native part of Mushclient
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: if it is, then I should be able to call it without having to build anything in aliases/etc
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: You're a good GF.
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: ....mis
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: This is what happens when you have ttwo convis going on two channels :P
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: lol
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: granted the webpage I found was from 2002 so it is very possible Gammon removed the function
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: It is in Mush, but you need to have the alias/trigger send to script. Otherwise it sends the text directly to the MUD as if you'd typed it.
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: hmm okay.  I'm not sure how to do that
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Find the send-to box, select script.
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: aha, that worked
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: although 5 was not 5 seconds and it wasn't 5 milliseconds so I'm unsure what unit of time is being used
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Should definitely be seconds...
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: actually nvm it was 1, and it is in seconds, I just can't read
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Areia grins.
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: okay so hmm... if you have to send to script rather than world, that raises the question of how to do this in the middle of a trigger that is sending to world
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: You couldn't.
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: You'd have it send to script, and for any commands you want to send normally, use the Send function.
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: e.g., Send("echo test2")
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: oh, okay, other way around then - send the whole thing to script and escape to world using Send()
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: Right
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: works for me
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: There's also an Execute function
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: That essentially sends whatever string you give it to execute
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: tried to nest Send() inside DoAfter() and it just sends immediately instead lol
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you have to build the DoAfter command quite carefully
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: DoAfter(20, Send("done")) executes immediately, DoAfter(20, "Send("done")") causes a compile error
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: try this one ... http://www.mushclient.com/scripts/function.php?name=DoAfterSpecial
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: especially the lua example further down
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: hmm yeah.. I will have to bookmark that and come back to it.  all out of brain cells for one evening
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2021-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: basically the command needs to go in ' ' so 'Send("echo stuffs")'
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avagadro Tech: Anyone around to maybe help me with a minor inconvenience?  Or at least point me in a direction
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Ask your question
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avagadro Tech: Recently installed the consider window plugin, and got it working, but now my prompt shows up three times when I look or enter a room
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avagadro Tech: Was wondering if there was a way to stop that
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: there are multiple plugins for consider, which one did you download
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avagadro Tech: Found one here https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9681
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avagadro Tech: If there's a better one for it, I'll switch out by all means
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: Avagadro I have a version you can try, let me find the exact url (or you can finger shindo and navigate to it on github)
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avagadro Tech: Yeah, I think just found yours
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: https://github.com/Shindo-Aardwolf/Mushclient-Consider   and use the code button to download the zip file
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avagadro Tech: Hmm, I do like yours better, cleaner look, but I'm still getting the triple prompt
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that is curious
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: actually
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: look through your plugins
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: see if you have another consider plugin, or a plugin that subs the mob cons with levels (+1 +8) or whatever
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: I think I ran into that problem and that was the cause
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oh, i see what is happening, it's gobbling up the output but not turning off/on the prompt
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avagadro Tech: Ah, that could be it, I had an old consider that was just telling me relative levels
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avagadro Tech: Darn, disable the old consider info plugin, still happening
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i actually want to edit mine to include an option where it only fires when you enter the room, not after every kill
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avagadro Tech: I do like the updating on kill though
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it's nice but if you start at 4 and work your way towards 1 they don't often change
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avagadro Tech: Well, I removed the extra %c from the prompt, and that cleaned it up some, now it doesn't say enter after every one at least
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: please leave at least 1 %c or my plugin breaks
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avagadro Tech: Oddly, it said it was updating it automatically, I just took out the manual one
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avagadro Tech: The Aardwolf MUSHclient Package is adjusting your game prompt to end in '%c'
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: is there any way mud-side to change all  blue output to some other colour? blue is unreadable on my screen
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the best solution is to change your client to make it not unreadable on your screen
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: is there any way mud-side to change all blue output to some other colour? blue is unreadable on my screen (removed the b code)
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in MUSH, go to game -> configure -> ANSI colours
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then click on the blue and you can lighten/darken it to be usable
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: ok, client-side it is then, thanks :)
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: kagaku is it a specific channel or just some output?
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: all output, eg when an item is magic it is shown in blue and it
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: okay, yeah, then clientside is your only real option
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: and it is unreadable on a black backgroud
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, the issue is the contrast, it's a client-side issue so that's where it is proper to solve it
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: I turned on xterm and that blue appears brighter and slightly more visible
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the full 246 colours is much nicer
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i mean 256
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: how does aard send colours? I'm using mudlet and it allows changing colour representation, for it blue is ansi colour number 4, is that what aard sends for blue? 
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Intuition Tech: help color
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: is @colorcode ansi standard?
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for regular colors, aard sends the ANSI code for the color, a universal standard...for xterm256 colors, it sends the well-known xterm number for the color...
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: option->preferences and then  click on blue and play with it
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: for mudlet
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: ok, so if I use xterm then the colour changing thing in mudlet is not going to work I guess (well it isn't working)
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you just want to tweak the display representation, you don't want to change anything about what color is sent or how
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: I think I'm going to have to make a trigger colour replacement
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: my 5800x just came in
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered now
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: will it blend?
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: sadly
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: yo fiend wanna remote acces me comp and upgrade ur shit
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avagadro Tech: Always, sometimes you just need a bigger blender
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: my
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'm happy to help you upgrade wonder
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: teamviewer?
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: tells please
T3/r7/2021-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ficarus Tech: is there a way to keep the history of what you type in the comman bar like on zMud?
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: is there a list somewhere of the room IDs of each of the runto destinations?
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: the best list is probably the one in SnD
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: thanks, I'll check it out
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: How does S&D know when a target is dead even when you're in another area?
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gofer Tech: cp check
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gofer Tech: after each mob kill it runs cp check to update your list, that list shows if they are dead
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: i'd imagine it has a mob vnum check/status from the campaign check code in Aard. I'm kinda curious how Aard works coding-wise. x3
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: is that SnD by WinkleWinkle? if so then it doesn't contain any lists of areas
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: Ah so the mud has a built in.
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: finger crowley for the up to date version
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: yeah, the mud code itself checks dead/alive status and feeds cp check, which is just re-designed by SnD's miniwindow
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: I used that for a bit but the quest turn-in reminder is so useful for me
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: no wonder, I found this one which was last and only updated in 2017 https://github.com/aardwolf-lunk/WinkleWinkle-Search-And-Destroy-Triple-Pack-Up-To-Date/commits/master
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: winkle got a new job too that requires more of his time, as i recall, which is why he isnt maintaining.
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: interesting, with google the top result is https://github.com/aardthridi/Search-and-Destroy, with the WinkleWinkle as 2nd, Crowley is not mentioned at all, ddg only shows WinkleWinkle's
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: tried installing pwar's plugin manager after I had....well, lost everything, and getting errors, run-time, anyone know why that might be happening?
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: did a clean install of mush, had pwar working prior, now just errors
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevy Tech: what are those errors? maybe put them up on pastebin
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: can also use http://rootswitch.com/paste if you don't want info being public. Not even I can read them without the encryption key and I own/host it lol
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: will do it now, sec
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: I unzipped to root folder, added plugin, and get this  https://pastebin.com/pNhE4KTa
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: put zip.dll in the root mush folder
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: trying to
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: aahh ok, the zip.dll needs to not be in the manager folder, thanks
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered right now
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amakuni Tech: how do i activate 3d hd 4k mode?
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you don't
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: I bough a 1440 screen and that fits a lot more mob damage messages.
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: is there a way, after removing split screen, to have it go back to new text automatically when you've scrolled up?
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: ctrl-space
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: had to do a completely new install, old one would do that, now it won't :(
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I do well with 1080 :)
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: disable auto pause under Game->Configure->Output
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but I don't know why you'd want to
T3/r7/2021-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: just because some text happens to arrive doesn't mean you're done looking at something
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: anyone around familiar with lua?
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: depends how familiar we need to be
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yes, we've been intimate on multiple occasions Lua and I
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: just ask, and worst we can say is eek!!!!
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: what are you trying to figure out? people on this channel are pretty good about trying to answer questions
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: cool, I'm using a while loop and table.remove to iterate a table, I'm using while table do some stuff and table.remove, I was hoping that when table.remove removes the last item then table will be nil and the while loop ends, but it doesn't
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: might be better to check if length of table is 0, I don't think it goes to nil in that situation
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's been a minute since I did anything like that with tables though
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: does it have to be done with a while loop, you could use a for i,j in pairs(tablename) do, then kill the table at the end
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I don't think it's called length though
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: lenght of a table is #tablename
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, for loop is nice.. but you should probably scrap removing things in that case
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you can just do tablename = {}  after the for loop
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you probably don't need to remove them, Shindo's solution is the simplest way to do what I imagine you're trying to do
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: any reason you actually need to the table to be empty at the end? or were you just trying to find a condition to exit your loop?
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: I want to do something with each item in the table, but "at various times", ie I do something with 1st item, get rid of it, then some time later come back and do something with the remaining 1st, get rid of it etc, which is why I don't want to/can't use a for-loop
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so you actually probably don't want to use a while loop either then
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: that seemed to be the easiest, ie I don't need another variable to keep track of where I am in the table
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: SO says there's a "next" function
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and you can do next(tablename) == nil to check if your table is empty
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: never used it, can't say for sure though
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: also apparently binding next (the function) to a local variable improves performance
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: okay, so by default table.insert and table.remove put/remove items from the end of the table
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but you can specify where to add the items, just need to read up on it. then if you only used those two to add/remove from the table you could make yourself a queue or stack depending on your needs
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: http://lua-users.org/wiki/TableLibraryTutorial
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: actually I'm using table.remove(table, 1) to get and remove the 1st item
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: then as long as the only way things are going in to your table is via table.insert you should be able to check that #tableName > 0 and remove items from your table with table.remove(tableName,1)
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: using the size of the table ie while #table works, so I think I'll go with that for now
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: I'm not sure next() is suitable, how does it keep state between invocations?
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: doesn't keep a state. It's your responsibility to track a current index.
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: that is what I was trying to avoid, me having to keep track :)
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: https://www.lua.org/manual/2.4/node31.html
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: table.remove(t, 1) is fine to use as a pop operation
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: yeah I think while and table.remove is the best solution for now, thanks everyone
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Is there a way to use dinv search to find out room id's?
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Ehm... Dinv search to find portals and list room ids?
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Intuition Tech: type "mapper portals" to list all portals and their room ids
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Problem is I lost my client
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: So I have to set up my portals again
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Intuition Tech: then no. Dinv doesn't know any path finding or mapping.
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Isn't it a flag on the item?
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Intuition Tech: Yes. the item shows: type = portal. And that's the info dinv uses to know whether to  equip it into the portal slot or not. That allows decisions based on what to equip to improve your overall stats. That doesn't say anything about mapping / pathfinding
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Gotcha, too bad :(
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Intuition Tech: The file that has all your portals and mapper info is Aardwolf.db, it would be a good idea to back it up occasionaly. I suppose you somehow lost all your original Mushclienet folder?
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I'm now saving the entire client to onedrive
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madik Tech: non-mud question. any of you guys AWS certified?  I'm looking to make that happen just not sure what resources is best to use. 
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Percivale Tech: Not certified, but what's your question?
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madik Tech: oh, i need to get the certification.  
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Percivale Tech: Oh, misread that =)
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madik Tech: its all good, it is time to get out of the Infrastucture business and move on to all web stuff. 
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: life questions answered here
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Xyzzy Tech: Why are you here?
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: dang.. that's a good one
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ever seen Story Bots?
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I feel like they could crush this one
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: Anyone used spaCy or scikit learn a lot?
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: no, but one time at space camp...
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: welp, my rpi4 cluster is back online. That's good news.
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: only 2 nodes in my slurm cluster though. Need to add some more.
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: anyone seen a problem with the aard mush client where it stops displaying text it reads from the server? Didn't happen until I upgraded to the newest version yesterday.
T3/r7/2021-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I saw that. It's likely a trigger that's matching everything and omitting from output. Could be in a plugin. I had it occur because of dinv autosaves
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: Is there a point to having both (eg) 'resonated' and 'hum' in flags?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: are they not the same thing?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knitted by Kharpern Tech: well you can toggle hum but can't if resonated is there
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus goes, "Hmmmm," but louder.
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knitted by Kharpern Tech: so an item with the hum flag can be enchanted if you toggle it off, but if there is a resonated flag as well you can't
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: So you only get one "roll" at enchanting an item, I think
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Otherwise people would repeatedly toggle flags over and over until they got a max enchant
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: I thought resonate spell added hum flag
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: It does
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knitted by Kharpern Tech: it does
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: it adds both
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: it also adds the resonated flag if it adds stats
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: Ah. OK
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: The resonated flag differentiates between items that were enchanted with resonate and items that naturally have hum. That is the difference.
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: ow do you "toggle" hum or glow when it doesn't add stats?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: I see. Thanks
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: if an item naturally has the hum flag, you can toggle it off so it can then be resonated
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: by going to the setflags dude in aylor
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: don't bother with enchanting unless you're max enchanting stats
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: That's really useful if you land a fat bloot roll on something that naturally have hum
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: also useful on aard equipment if you want it enchanted
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: I see. Thanks
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: I see. Thanks
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: how do you get dinv to recognize you bought the portal wish?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: it already does
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: re-run your rebuild after you get it I believe
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: From dinv help portal: "The plugin checks if you have a portal wish and uses the correct location automagically."
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Omphalon is agreeing with that Yajan person again...
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: I reran build, and refresh, after buying
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: You might want to rebuild or reinstall dinv if you got it and it's not working
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: i think gracie just bought the wish and is asking how to get.. yeah
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: iirc, you need to forget all your portals and refresh.
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: will try reinstalling
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, I think I had to do that too (what Losteix said)
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: wipe your whole db and build it from scratch again
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: dinv forget type portal;dinv refresh all
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: something like that, at least.
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I've had to do the same when I tempered weapons
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: or enchanted them
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: sometimes you can just dinv forget all, and rebuild the whole thing
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: runs pretty fast though if you've refreshed recently and you only forget one type
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I sometimes do that and go off to have lunch and come back to find it rtebuilt for me
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: did dinv forget type portal, refreshed, still removing weapon, will try forgetting and rebuilding
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: just looked up the instructions i used way back when. there was a "dinv reload" between the forget and the refresh.
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: whether it mattered or not, no clue.
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if only the Durable Durel would tell us the secret sauce!
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan nudges Durel.
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: If all else fails, reinstall and rebuild everything.
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: have you tried turning it off and on again? :)
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: cleared cache/cookies?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: you can always just create a new character and this time don't install dinv at all until after you get the wish.
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: wow.. that's the holy grail of great IT advice.. I take my hat off to you
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan genuflects in reverence to High Risk Losteix, his most beloved queen.
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: that sounds more drastic than the alternative, which is re-install windows
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: have you tried sodding off and not using our product you absolute moron gawd
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: is sodding off like getting off of someone's sod (lawn)?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: it's not our fault you insist on using our product in ways it was never designed for. just do a fresh install and use it right this time.
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: does dinv forget type wearable not work?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: am I sending a malformed query?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: wearable isnt a type
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh.. was hoping that wasn't the answer :'(
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: you could do dinv forget wearable body or osmething
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: no way to forget all slots?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I guess I can do each
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: dinv forget type armor ?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmm that worked
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: noice!
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: dinv refresh and dinv refresh all are the same or?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: looking samey
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient and/or lua questions answered here
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: is there any way to delete/insert/replaces lines from the output buffer anywhere but the end of the buffer?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: technically or pratically?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: +c
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I guess I'm interested in either
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: technically yes
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: how's that?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: delete everything starting from where you want to change and then rewrite it
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: ok, I see why you asked technically or pratically :P
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I tried that, it's...not great
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: why do you want to do it
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: was trying to reskin combat by combining lines
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: how does that not involve just reading the end?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: too jumpy?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: because I don't know if I want to combine lines until it's no longer combat lines anymore
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ah
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: that's a problem. if you can recognize the beginning of what you want to combine then you can just prevent it from displaying 
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I mean, I can omit combat lines from output, but I don't know what I want to display until there's a non combat line
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: and I don't really want to go aobut hiding/reproducing non-combat lines, that's not much better than the previous thing we were talking about
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: is that every round?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: or all rounds all at once?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: sometimes multiple times per round because there are lines that interrupt combat
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I want to combine any adjacent damage messages
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but damage messages all follow the same pattern
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: that's true
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: does this overlap with setting the damage mode?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it's related
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: but not solved by
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: for exmaple, I'd like to display my mainhand and offhand damage on the same line
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: same line but two numbers instead of 1?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: well, and they have different damage types, so I'd like to display those
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: normally, with damage 6, they'll output as two adjacent lines
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I think I understand
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: here's an example: https://imgur.com/Kwx4qcp
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I did that by unrolling and re-rolling the output buffer
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: but it's glitchy, both visually and logically
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I believe it
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: is there a way to pre-empt an incoming line with plugins?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yes but
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it's dangerous
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: why?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: so am i fiend
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: because it involves intercepting the raw packets
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: ah
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: and then you have to do a lot of special work to bypass gmcp messages
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: let's see...
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you could _try_ using OnPluginLineReceived. that might happen after gmcp is detected
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: oh, yeah, that looks like what I'm looking for
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: ok, this might be possible with a plugin then, cool :)
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I don't know what happens if you print something and return false
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: don't all attack messages happen at once?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: sometimes they're interrupted, with, e.g., deaths
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: or other messages
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: but I only want to combine adjacent lines anyway
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: so for my purposes, yep
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so maybe you could set damage 6, look for damage lines and also any non-damage lines, omit damage lines, and any next line _after_ a damage line you print the combined damage line
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: if the next line is a second damage you include it, otherwise dn't
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: don't
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: oh, during OnPluginLineReceived
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: just in triggers
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it'll display after the first non-damage line though right?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I think doing line matching in triggers will be more performant than doing it in Lua in OnPluginLineReceived
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: not necessarily
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: here's how you could avoid that...
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: eh, should be pretty similar, you can use mush's regex system in lua
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: unclear but you can try it
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but maybe try this too... 
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: what a cliffhanger...
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: sorry, long message. please wait
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: two triggers, one for your damage line and one for literally any line. make them _both_ omit from output and either send to 14 (do after omit) or do everything in a function (these happen after omit whereas the send block if send_to is 12 happens _before_ omit so it's not safe to print inside <send> when send_to is 12) instead of the <send> block. start the second trigger disabled and the first enabled. set the second one to have higher number sequence so it runs last. When the first trigger fires, update variables that record how many damage lines in a row you've seen so far and what the damage was. if the number of messages seen this round is less than 2, activate the second trigger. if it's 2, print your accumulated message and _deactivate_ the second trigger. if your second trigger fires, print your accumulated message and then print the line that was just seen that was just ommitted.
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: damn fiend last time i call u
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: obviously I'll answer questions about any of ^
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: oh also the second trigger should deactivate itself when it fires
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you're saying enable the later-sequence trigger from the earlier-sequence trigger to have it trigger on the same line conditionally?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: not the same line, the next line _if_ the next line is not a damage line
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so here are all the scenarios and what will happen for them...
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: ok, you're just saying match on "*" and if it's not a combat line, print any accumulated combat stuff, then reproduce the line via style runes?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: heh style runes
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yup
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I don't really like the idea of omitting a line matching on "*" and replicating output, it takes away omission control from other triggers/plugins
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it's something I'd though about
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: just don't halt processing and that shouldn't happen
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: uhh...use Simulate instead of ColourNote
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: if I omit and replicate, then any other trigger that wants to intentionally omit the output won't be successful
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: simulate?
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: actually _do_ halt processing, but use simulate instead of colournote
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I haven't heard of that one
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hah. here...
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: oh god
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: that's so useful
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: and dangerous...
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Simulate(stylesToANSI(styles_table).."\n")
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: stylesToANSI is one of my color functions
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: in...uhh...aardwolf_colors.lua or whatever
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: huh, I'll have to take a look at Simulate and see what the implications are
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: that might change the way I do a lot of things...
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: just make sure to call...uhh...
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: StopEvaluatingTriggers(true) if you're going to omit and simulate for this purpose
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: ok
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: that way anything firing later won't fire on both the original _AND_ the new output
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: gotta go make dinner, but you've been very helpful!
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: _OR_
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: wait, no, no or. ignore the or
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: thanks for the advice :)
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: let me know if you get stuck
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: sorry im taking fiend from u
T3/r7/2021-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: from someone who lost knowing how a comp works where should they pickup again
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: any reason why gmcp room is not being received? (protocols gmcp shows that is on)
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: blind?
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: not blinded
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: it's been like this for hours
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: hey if you're blinded does a gmcp request room still work 
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are other GMCP modules being received? check just "prot" to make sure GMCP as a whole is on
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, you can navigate blind with gmcp
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: other gmcp events are being received fine as far as I can tell
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can turn on gmcp debug, but my guess is you're actually receiving gmcp room data, but the plugin consuming it isn't working
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: probably had a crash
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quit and restart the client
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: I don't think anything is consuming it, I'm using mudlet and have turned on debug, which reports when gmcp events are received (whether or not any plugins are going to process them)
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: restarted several times, including restarting system
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: I sent the gmcp command "debug on", then room.info started to appear, then I set debug off, and room.info is still being received
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: how hard would it be to make a small "command box" that shows what commands are in qeue?
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: like if i quaff 4x, thejn swehere, then quaff, then bash
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: could it show what is next?
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: theoretically yes, some of that would require inserting echo commands to get acknowledgement of them having triggered
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Xyzzy Tech: the world queue can be manipulated... you can display it... you can add to it...
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Xyzzy Tech: not sure if you can stick things in the middle of it
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: display it how?
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: like a list, 1 - 7 with commands, and as they are executed, they would be removed
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Xyzzy Tech: world.GetQueue()
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Xyzzy Tech: then run through the returned array and display the result.
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: this would all be server side
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: i guess theoretically you could use mushclient's 'speedwalk queue' but it wouldn't be that efficient -- it uses a fixed interval for sending commands and commands have variable lag attached to them
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: using spelltags and echo commands you can probably make your own command queue but other plugins might not play nicely with it
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Xyzzy Tech: I regularly stick wtuff in the world queue rather than using send or execute.  The benefit is that you can execute commands "in between"... so entering a room I can use a kill alias on a mob, then use it again on all the other mobs... it stacks the commands in the world queue, but if I quaff or flee of cast heal before the next "queued" command executes, it can sneak in before the queue entry
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Principium Tech: How do I change my mushclient theme again?
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: aard help
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Principium Tech: Thank you :)
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Are there extra files needed for Pwar's plugin manager? I'm getting errors trying to add it.
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: put zip.dll in your mush root folder
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: is anyone here familiar with running the MUSHclient with WINE? I am trying to figure out why MUSHClient works fine but the Aardwolf MUSHclient will not load
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: Are you launching it from a desktop icon or the activity menu? Or are you going to the folder and launching it? It uses ./ as a directory prefix so it has to be launched from in the folder it was installed in
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: I am launching it from the folder. I have tried the portable and installer packages.
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: one of the patch notes on github says he fixed a CTD for Debian Wine users in r2017. So I've tried r2017 and r2149. Both CTD as soon as the splash screen finishes loading
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: never tried running it in wine myself but if it's having problems writing somewhere that could happen. You tried running it with sudo or as root (running as root is BAD! You shouldn't do it! I do it anyways lol)
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: smells like dll-hell.  maybe theres a leftover bit of something in the way?
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: yeah running it as sudo does not work at all. It fails to load the GUI =/
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: and it does smell like dll hell lol. "wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x00000038 at address 0x7b452f20 (thread 0046), starting debugger...
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i dont suppose you know gdb-fu?
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: lmao
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: try this open a terminal and goto the directory
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: im still puzzling over the 'sudo made it worse'...
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: and type: "WINEPREFIX=./ wine mushclient.exe"
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: usually that, at worst, makes it break something else, not itself.
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: without the quotes
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: it shoudl look for the dll's its looking for in the directory you're running it from after that.
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: debugging should be more specific after that too
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: Mannec, I'm running it on a Pixelbook. It's using Debian but Google has tweaked it a lot. It does....weird stuff lol
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mannec winces in agony.
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: thanks Szz I'll give that a go
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: if it works you can add your mushclient directory to the winepath and you won't have to run it all weird like that every time. But it's a quick way to test without having to undo things besides typeing: rehash
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: hmmm making some progress. I nuked the wineprefix and recreated it. Now MUSHCLient loads, but the error is ".\worlds\Aardwolf.mcl contains an invalid path"
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: definite progress.  take a look at that mcl, see if maybe it has windows-style paths or something?
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: now. I don't know how many plugins use a path
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mannec shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: but to fix that open the aardwolf.mcl file in a text editor and search for ./ and replace them all with the path to your muchclient install
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: so ./world should become /home/username/mushclient/world......
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: or whatever
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: you may ALSO be able to fix it by doing: wine ./muchclient.exe
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: mmm.  i would expect relative paths to work.  in fact, i would expect them to be the default... unless wine breaks paths somethow?
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: hmmm. I don't see anything like that. The closest thing I see is script_prefix="\\\"
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: actually....
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: try running it like that: wine ./mushclient.exe instead of jsut wine mushclient
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: pixelbook's probably sandboxing it into some google directory
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: ok, this is weird as ****. When I ran it with ./ I got a CTD like before. Now when I run it without ./ it is crashing to desktop again. Still, I think worlds/Aardwolf.mcl might be the problem.
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: I am tempted to just install crouton and run it on Ubuntu, but I don't know if Google still supports crouton now that they have native linux support
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: could always copy the aardwolf plugins to your normal mushclient install and just go file -> plugins -> add
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: oooo good idea. Let me try that
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: I'm using a normal mushclient with half aard and half bastmush plugins
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: and some winkle sprinkled in
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: is the mapper fully functional? If not for that I'd be happy with Mudlet or Tintin
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: yeah. I got the ascii map in one window and full mapper in another
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: even the background for different zones are working in mapper
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: let me try that, then. I have to reinstall it since I nuked the prefix, but that won't take long
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: naw don't reinstall
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: export WINEPREFIX=~/.wine
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: wouldn't have you nuke it if I didn't know the original :P
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: and i was thinking of buying a chromebook, but seeing someone have this much trouble ...
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: if you root it and put your own rom on its fine lol
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: I'd go with lineage. where the real cynagenmod devs split off from the money devs lol
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: ok, I think I know what the problem is. When I try to install aardwolf plugins inside MUSHClient it goes crazy due to the path. It can't handle the space in Program Files or the (x86)
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: I am going to try installing it in drive_c and see if it works. If it doesn't, I'll give up and tackle it tomorrow lol
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: that should work your other option is to escape spaces characters Program\ Files\(x86\) through out the files lol
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: think when I ran the old zmud3 in wine I had to run it from C:\zmud to save other problems
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: DINV plugin question ... is there a way to prioritize weapon types for a priority? IE, daggers for thieves, hammers for blacksmiths, etc
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: alas, there is not a way to do that
T3/r7/2021-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: all good! thanks! (and double thanks :D ) 
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazy Lady Igamu Tech: does n.. anyone know how to  set pagelangth in termius
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: is this for the mud or you just mean the program in general?
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: cause if its the mud's paging, help pagesize
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazy Lady Igamu Tech: the program .. wait its for on this mud when i play on it.. after i cls  oh.. wait so pagesize changes stuff? ooo thankies
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazy Lady Igamu Tech: thnkies!!! it worked
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: what's the best way to create a directory from a plugin?
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Alot of them use one of the plugininfo options as one provides the location of the plugin itself upon which one can concact further directions
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: since i have to "use" this channel
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: anybody know how to use the SND plugin
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: cp check isnt working 
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: well first of all what version did you get / from where?
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: whichever one is on the helpfile
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: the latest version i take it
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: it was working before
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: just doesnt show anything now - just says off
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: .spellup on
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: start with tags on
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: i try reloading it and then it just cuts off again
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: nothing is working when i do that also - just keeps "gossiping" spell up
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: useless channel
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: lol
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes, gossip is a useless channel.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: just reload the lugins
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: tech is useless
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hardly.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: i got it. 
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: well thanks for stopping by good luck with your problem
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just haven't met the right people yet.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: clearly
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: Thanks Nohh
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: for your advise
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No need to be an ass, though.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: Wasn't. Dude techs and wasnt even talking to me -- i'm replying and no answers from them
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, I'm the one who maintains S&D, at least one version of it.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: spellup bs.. thought it was meant for me
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: dont know why he used "tech" channel
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: kinda pointless to have someone go to a certain channel and nobody responds but 1 person --
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: newbie gets more of a response than anything
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: then by all means, don't use it anymore
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: i was advised to use the channel to ask my question?
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: wouldnt be any diff than newbie channel .. js
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Would you rather have 100 useless answers from people who don't know better, or one answer from someone trying to help?
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: What are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I don't really understand 
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: What plugin are you using, which version (if it's SnD there's multiple versoins)
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You see, I typically help people here, but since you choose to be an ass about it, I don't quite feel helpful.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You mention SnD plugin before, but then you're talking about spellup plugins.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: Wow what did I come back to? Tech is NOT a useless channel by any means trust me. 
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: I've been asking -- and nobody has been responding but one person. I thought Spills or w/e his name was, was speaking to me.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Look, I don't understand your question
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Tell me 1) which plugin you need help with 2) what the plugin is doing wrong
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: And specify the version/author of the plugin, because there's different spellup and SnD plugins by Winklewinkle, Bast, Crowley, Pwar, etc.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: Alison, the only SND version that i know if is the one in the help snd helpfile
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: know of*
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Awesome. That's MY version, as you'll see in help snd.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Evine wave hands wildly and asks alison to answer all the secrets of the universe!!!
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: The only reason i was getting frustrated is because I was told to use the tech channel - ask , nobody responds and when there was a response -- it didnt even relate to what i was asking. Jw why point me to a channel that isn't as responsive as the "newbie" channel.. that's all i was getting to
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: now everybody is getting on the channel - not tryna be an ass.. but i guess it came out that way
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: Crowley has the best version of SnD :D except maybe I tweaked it a bit...no botting I promise 
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It really depends on who is around.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: they probably pointed you to this channel because they knew that you were unlikely to get help on that channel
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mockable Korridel peers intently at Evine.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Evine D
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: ...:D
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Anyway, I'll answer any question you need, but after a few minutes. Gotta sign into fiancee's account to send her a cover letter.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: I had quest up not campaign. Crowley, Alison, thank you. I think i got it figured.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As a side note, did you do xset index areas when you installed SnD?
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: not sure i was supposed to do that
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It says it when you install. Type 'snd create', 'xset index areas', and that will save you future headaches.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It'll lag up the system for about 10 seconds, though, but only once.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: what was the command again Crowley?
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: it crashed the mud when i typed it
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: xset index
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: snd create first, then xset index areas.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: i did xset ind first before the snd create - does it matter?
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: but i re-did with snd create >> xset index
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Technically, xset index areas should already incoporate snd create, but I added snd create as a failsafe.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: Alright. So i should be good regardless of however order i did it in?
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you get any errors killing cp mobs or quest mobs, then just do 'snd reload', 'snd create', 'xset index areas' and it'll fix it.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hirudegarn thanks (Aleister) Crowley heartily.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: Ive been using it for a day or so now.. just now getting into the xhelp files
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm not around as much as I used to be, unfortunately. New job and schoolwork demands a lot, plus the fiancee and kids. But I do accept notes and I do respond when I can. I also get messages to my Telegram account when someone sends me a tell, too.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: I'll make sure to contact you personally then. Had no idea the creator -- actually played.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not the creator. The person who maintains it now. It was created ages ago by someone else who doesn't play.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: All I've done was add some features, and try to fix bugs that show up when I can.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: Gotcha. Well still speaks a lot for someone who maintains it and keeps it up-to-date.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirudegarn Tech: Impressive little plugin ... more than i could ever understand 
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: windows forced an update and OneDrive on me this morning and messed up Mushclient. Now I can't add new aliases, tho the couple I had before still work. Suggestions? I thought I was 'saving" the alias file to the new location correctly but maybe not...
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: the first thing I would do on any Windows workstation is disable automatic updates.  They break stuff as often as they fix stuff.  You can always download them one by one if they're critically important/security related
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: make sure mush closes properly. mine has a tendency to just not close process so aliases and variables stored in client dont save
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: and yeah, that - CTRL+Shift+Esc, close any MUSH-related processes you can find
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: so I should try closing out of mushclient, closing all mushclient processes then restarting?
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: for starters, yeah
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illivex Tech: process tab, right click, end tree
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: I just checked on my system and all I see is Mushclient.exe
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: so kill any instances of that which are running
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: well, I didn't see any when I checked. Logged back in and new aliases still nonfunctional.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: in that case the change to Windows may have broken the installation of Mushclient.  somehow.  there's always a full uninstall/reinstall.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: UberCranky Talia lets out a string of curses that would make you blush if we hadn't censored her.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: you can probably save your aliases if you make a copy of whichever file in the Mushclient directory where that's stored.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: gimme a minute and I'll find out
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: its the one in worlds folder
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: I wonder if trying to "load" the file I saved will break ALL my aliases.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: searching for "alias" in the worlds directory gave me three files - constants.js, constants.pl, constants.vbs.  I don't know whether saving a copy of any of these would preserve your aliases
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: found it.  worlds directory, Aardwolf.mcl
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: if you open that in notepad you'll see your aliases.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: so, absolute worst case, if simple file-replacement doesn't import those into a fresh install of Mushclient, you can at least open it in Notepad and copy-paste each alias into the client one by one.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: yes, but it seems saving that file in the right location may be the problem. Or it may not. Who knows
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: oh well.. thanks
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: you could also try a repair of Mushclient in Windows' control panel/programs and features
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: but I would make a copy of Aardwolf.mcl first.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: worth a shot. thanks
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: good luck!
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: except mushclient isn't shown in the list of programs.. ugh
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: just make a fresh install and try importing your world file see how that works out. aka the old way of updating mush
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: never mind. The problem is my aliases were capitalized and I was typing lowercase.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: UberCranky Talia turns beet red, and hides her face in her palm.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: happens to us all lol
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: good ol Layer 8 errors
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: there is ignore case setting :P
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UberCranky Talia Tech: Yeah, I should probably activate that, all things considered.
T3/r7/2021-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i have it on things where i sometimes hit shift outa habbit but thats personal
T3/r7/2021-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tuesday Tech: anyone know of a mapper plugin for blowtorch mobile app?
T3/r7/2021-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tuesday Tech: nvm I found shindo plugin and got it work finally on blowtorch
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: is there a way to weight damtypes in dinv?
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: like, based on mastery
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: there's dinv weapon
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: full edit has dmg types i believe
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: dinv priority copy full <blahblahblah> if I remmber, will show damtypes.
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: no, the best you can do is to create different priorities that ignore specific damtypes
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh yeah, can't weight them, but can ignore.
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: Crowley, weird issue with S&D... my xq command does nothing
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: the other kludgy hack you can do is to put the weapons with damtypes you don't want to use into an ignored bag (see "dinv help ignore")
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, something was changed recently that stopped that command from working. Haven't had time to look into it yet, but it has been recent.
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: it's not ideal, but it might help in some cases
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: agreed, new issue for me
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Either Lasher changed someone or Fiendish did. :p
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Won't be much an issue to fix, though.
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: xq brings up the info for your quest mob
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: ah. weird
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Starling had it requesting quest info through telnet means.
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: not through gmcp?
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Apparently that channel no longer works, either because Fiendish changed something with the code (likely thought) or Lasher made a change. But she was trying to do it 'silently'. No idea why she didn't do it through gmcp.
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I gotta write up the final week of statistics papers for my class, but I hope to look into it by next weekend.
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: i don't think i've ever used xq
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's handy for when you decide to do a gq or cp in the middle of a quest.
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Omphalon is agreeing with that (Aleister) Crowley person again...
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: if you swap targetting via qw or what not u want to refresh it
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or run to an alternate room before the quest mob. It'll reload the quest info for you.
T3/r7/2021-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL.
T3/r7/2021-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Perryn Tech: with dinv at 41 I switch my body eq to my 41 set, but at 42 it has me switch back to my level 1 set and then switch again at 43. Is there something I need to adjust?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: Anyone know what's going on with the Winds website since the plugin isn't working now?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: website just gone?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: Something seems to be wrong on the websites end since the plugin isn't working. It's still there afaik
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Surani Tech: guys, I'm new and having issues getting mush setup. can someone spare 5 to help?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: might have better luck if state what issue you're having
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Surani Tech: i've just download the client from Fiendish - its a fresh install, when I open it, i get an error to say that the aard world can not be loaded.
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Surani Tech: (working on it)
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: You should put folder on your desktop too & run it from there
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Surani Tech: if I try and 'open word' and select aard, i get a tone of xml issues
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Surani Tech: yeah, its on my desktop, default install location
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: I just stuck the folder there and double-click the MUSHclient.exe file to run it
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: did you have a previous mush that you tried to install over?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Surani Tech: no, i am a complete newbie
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: open the actual folder it's in, and right click mushclient.exe and run as admin
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: have you been able to open it successfully ever?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Surani Tech: so, the client opens just fine. Its the Aardwolf world file that I can't open. I will try as admin, standby
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: the opening the mush client folder is the really important part can't run from the desktop exe or the start menu link
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: it uses ./ as a directory prefix to be platform independent but that means it needs to be run from the working directory below the plugins
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: the running as admin may or may not be required to save files to the desktop directory it's installed in depending on what you clicked while installing windows or the 1809 update.
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Surani Tech: thanks guys, running it from the folder seemed to have worked, I didnt get the error and plugins seem to have loaded
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Surani Tech: any ideas how I 'see' the mapper? 
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: move a room
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Surani Tech: i was hoping for the graphical map from the plugins?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: windows can be behind other windows and such, also anything you wanna load extra can be done from file -> plugins
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Surani Tech: you absolute stars! thank you!
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: there's also a show info button for each plugin in that plugin manager list. It'll show you the initial help for each plugin if you click the plugin and hit show info also type 'aard help'
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Surani Tech: great! now, lets see if I can actually play this game :D
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: once you get all your windows set 'aard layout lock' is legend
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Surani Tech: oh, wow. thanks
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Surani Tech: donno what i want/need yet, but I will keep that nuget! 
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: Dees mc save 'notes' for the current world somewhere obvious as a file? Or is it an object in the world db somewhere? I can't fine my notes to edit in an external editor...
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: have you tried grep?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: grep on WLS, evry-thing, can't find the content or file as searchable text except where I've exported it.
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: sorry I can't help, I don't use mushclient
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: is there a way to turn off dinv DINV Plugin version 2.0054 is fully initialized
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: file -> plugins -> dinv -> disable button
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: the message not the plugin
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: search for that line where it prints it and comment it out?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: the way its thrown cuts into other stuff triping things about half the time
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: just set a trigger for regex with "DINV Plugin version \d\.\d+ is fully initialized" and check the box on right for omit from output and leave the send box blank
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: that would still trip the other stuff because it would cut the output
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: underlying stuff SHOULD still see it. It just omits from you seeing it. It's still there though
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: also i cant find that output line in plugin so its probably done is some fancy way
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: there's a line: dbot.info("Plugin version " .. fullVer .. " is fully initialized")
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: maybe comment that out
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: the point is to stop it from cutting in between other stuff pulling lists
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: thanks will try that
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: if you wanna change it's order do you want it before or after? everything is defaulted to 100 can set Sequence="1" for first or Sequence="999" for last
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: that sequence has to do with the order plugins are processed in each loop
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: no idea what you mean
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: What was the command you could type to get check your current gmcp data?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: \\\print(CallPlugin("3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264", "gmcpdata_as_string", ""))
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Thank you :)
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: are all colour codes a followed by a single letter?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: are all colour codes a @ followed by a single letter?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's also the xterm 256 color codes
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: I'm trying to process the output of the invdata tag, what colour codes does that use? Is it dependent on my colour settings?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can just use invdata ansi and let your client handle the color stuff
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: woah, invdata ansi is so good...
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: yep, saves having to strip out the colour codes
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I wrote a lot of logic to strip color codes :P
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: does reinstalling a plugin delete all its world variables?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: That'd be its state file
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: what'd be its state file?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I'm asking about variables set with GetVariable and SetVariable
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Statefile holds all the information relating to a plugin... including variables
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: so I need to enable save_state?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: very helpful, thanks :)
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well what are you trying to achieve...a bit more context may help
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I just wanted to be able to use SetVariable, reinstall the plugin, and GetVariable the data
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I guess save_state is required for that
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well assuming all variables save before reinstalling, yeah it'd work
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: so does the wear-loc given by invdata depend on the race of the person using that command?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: All races have same wearlocations
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: So yes or no would still be the exact same outcome...
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: ok the help says Wear-loc: Number of current wear-location, so this doesn't whatever race is using the command, but whether the race has that wear-loc is another matter?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: ok the help says Wear-loc: Number of current wear-location, so this doesn't CHANGE whatever race is using the command, but whether the race has that wear-loc is another matter?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Again, all races have same slots, but slots are also essentially enumerated...
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: it's a lot like star trek..same basic anatomy..we just change the forehead makeup
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: the help further says (of wear-loc) This has the potential to vary from race to race?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: So regardless of race/class or other characters, head will stay the same number
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: so what varies?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Think they wanted to add slots but never did...
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Kinda like a placeholder for something that never came
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: ok, so I can disregard that bit, like you said all locations are the same :)
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: is there a way to take off the audio track of a gaming video so I can overlay a new track over the footage instead?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: of course
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illivex Tech: yes, you can pull the audio track from prety much any video editor
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: any video editor should be able to do it
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: can do it online without installing anything
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: just google remove audio from video online
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: thanks so much yall :)
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: aad outage l o l
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: what's aad?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: azure active direction?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: directory*
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how do you escape double quotes in a trigger pattern
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: \"
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: you doing it as a regex?
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yes
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: then that is how you escape them. of course you should only have to escape them if they're quotes inside other quotes
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: match="^asd \"asd\" asd"
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Line  155: Attribute name 'asd' not followed by '=' (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: single quotes work
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You do not need to escape double quotes in trigger patterns in regex...
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: tell that to mush
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyway I used single quotes then double inside, works
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, if you're writing it as Lua script, you DO need to escape it.
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, that's how you would do it (the easy way) in Lua.
T3/r7/2021-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Otherwise, I think you'd use % to escape.
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tuesday Tech: having problems with a consider plugin for blleo. it says to configure bs $1 in blow torch. but now if I use the alias it keeps return bs '2.orc' for example and doesnt atk the 2.mob because of the '' 
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: is that in my plugin?
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tuesday Tech: yeah it is!
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: let me see if i can plumb the depths of my mind for the correct way to set up that alias
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tuesday Tech: I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong for blowtorch to keep adding ' to the string on its own
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: skills and spells have different syntax
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yes, that is also an issue i have raised
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: That'd work if it was a spell e.g. c immolate '2.orc', but would not work for backstab.
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i'm trying to remember how it works... been wat to long since i used it
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: okay, so you have added and alias "kk" to the blowtorach aliases?
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: an* not and
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tuesday Tech: yeah my kk is set to - bs $1  
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if you turn on echocommand, in the mud, is it sending bs '2.orc'  for example?
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tuesday Tech: yes that's exactly what's happening
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tuesday Tech: but without the ' at the end of orc
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oh joy... more bugs for me to find :P
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tuesday Tech: I tried adding a ' to the end but it doesn't work like that either. I assume the' needs to be removed
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah, as Kers commented, for spells you can have '1.mobname' but for skills it fails
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so i'll see if i can write a patch or that
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: thanks for brining that to my attention, i think when i last worked on this i was a caster
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: can you test something for me. remove the kk alias completely and keep echocommand on. then do ck 1 or what ever
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: or what ever you set the default command to
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tuesday Tech: it does k '2.orc'
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i need more coffee but then i'm back on it, like a rash
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tuesday Tech: - +
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Surani Tech: on Mush, how would I change the line length? i want it to push out further to the right to use more of the client
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: file -> world properties -> output -> check wrap text at column number at bottom and pick a number
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Surani Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Too bad that AardMUSH mapper and DB could work on Blowtorch.
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: is it possible to have a timestamp for every line that's displayed in the main window for mushclient
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hmmm... So... I've set up a database with four tables. The main table contains an id that is used in all other tables. What would be the best way to actually print the data based on the id of the main table. And no, I'm not using relations because... I haven't read that far yet :P LUA+Aardmush+Sqlite3
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: read about relations
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Sigh, figures :P Aight, thanks :)
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hmmm... So... I've set up a database with four tables. The main table contains an id that is used in all other tables. What would be the best way to actually print the data based on the id of the main table. And no, I'm not using relations because... I haven't read that far yet :P LUA+Aardmush+Sqlite3wake
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oops, miss
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I've read up on foreign keys and, looks simple enough
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Look in where statements and joins.
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: into
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Akella nods.
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: if you've worked with spreadsheets they're a bit like lookups
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, that's my next hurdle. To join the data good enough
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: you don't need to get fancy unless your database is massive--like millions of rows. where and join statements are enough
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, it won't be very big, so I'm keeping it pretty basic :)
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: it might be easier to keep everything in the same table then
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I like keeping the tables basically normal, and doing it on simpler tables is good practice!
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I'm pretty average with databases unless I've got entity framework :)
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: well, it depends on the use case. I've got a database that is about 100GB and contains 16 years of financial data. I use a single table with a couple of indexes. I can run queries in < 1 second
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: which is good enough for my purposes. a business might need better performance
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: normalization is good long term
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Is there any way I can print what my database query looks like?
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the query or the results
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: The query
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: aren't you providing the query?
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, but I want to see the populated query
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: query from a plugin or what?
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what's a populated query
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you have a db, you have a query
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then there are results
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: think what you should do is open the sqlite outside of lua and mush
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: plan a scheme, insert some sample data
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: play with some queries until you're confident
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then you go to mush and do it in a plugin
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I think almost all examples I've seen have a print
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so you do a simple query, you make a connection, you prep the query
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you print the results
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and then your queries become more complex, can still test them outside of mush/lua
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Ah, got it working!
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Using tprint, can I get a certain cell by doing tprint(values[3]) for example?
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: hi, i am trying to figure out how to get my screen reader to read the plugin list after i did some stuff with my setup any reason why it wouldn't I am thinking minni windows but i cant remember how to get rid of them using latest mushclient with an ancient set of aard plugins and an ancient soundpack.
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: what stuff did you do?
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: added in an old aardwolf.db file i had from a friend from ages ago tried to add in a spellup plugin i found on the mushclient site from oh seven eight years ago then things broke for screen reader output in the plugins dialot.
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: the spellup broke things.
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: is it bast spellups?
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: then i added in output functions a plugin i have for coppying output to a notepad and a bunch of errors came up.
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: got aaardwolf.db file error and a bunch of errors with the output functions.xml file
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: after upgrading from 4.89 to latest.
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: going to go try hunting down the output functions.xml plugin on line and see what i broke.
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadbury Kya Tech: Oh yeah, Output Functions won't work with the latest Mush if I recall correctly. Just use the Aard nonvisuals package, think it comes with a plugin that provides output functions plugin equivalency. Or, something does that I have that isn't the old output functions plugin...Can look into it further if needed.
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: where can i find a non visuals package that is up to date?
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: that i can add pei's soundpack into? I love that pack
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: unfortunately unless i learn to code it wont be updated since he died.
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/releases/download/r2149/Aardwolf_MUSHclient_r2149_no_visuals.exe
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: you are a god send.
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: don't compliment Nohh, his head will explode
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doge Water Yajan tickles Nohh.
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: don't take this from me yajan
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: hahaha, sorry
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: You can find some other good stuff here: https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: im just assuming that's a rickroll
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: rickrolled!
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: I'm no stranger to rick, you know the rolls and so do I
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illivex Tech: he's never going to give up doing that
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: you win some, you lose some
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i am getting where i hate edge and its blocking files.
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i got it to download though.
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: it worked for loading the soundpack yay now lets see if it fixed my problem plus i did not get an aardwolf.db error either.
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: oh wow, now i have two soundpacks.
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: that was weird, dinv randomly forgot about one of my portals existing until i did a 'dinv refresh all' ... why would that ever happen
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: if one of your items leaves your inventory, you need to refresh for dinv to see it again when you pick it back up.  The most common way this happens is if you die and your items are moved to your corpse
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: the "refresh all" option tells dinv to poke around in containers you picked up to double check what's inside them.  I'm guessing your missing portal was in a container and wasn't seen until the refresh all
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: it didn't, i logged in, ran to desolation using raukora portal, left to do a quest and when i tried to go back to desolation the 'dinv portal use x' command failed to get the portal
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: was sitting in my bag the whole time
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: another possibility is that the portal was moved in another client (maybe blowtorch?) and dinv didn't see where it was until the refresh.  If that's not it, then I'll blame...Microsoft? :P
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: darn microsoft
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: yeah, very weird.. it worked once then didn't work the second time, in the same session.. would have to scroll up and look for any weird refreshes showing it removed
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: one other less likely explanation is that you somehow turned invmon off.  Type "invmon" to toggle it and verify it's on
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: what happened was i did the xrt desolation immediately upon logging in, which happened during the initial dinv refresh (Refreshing inventory: START) and it removed it as orphaned
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: oh interesting
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: so just crazy timing
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: nod.  So when in doubt, just refresh and that should resync everything
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wibblio Tech: OK
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tuesday Tech: does anyone know what the cancel command is in blowtorch? like if I have 8 attacks entered who to cancel and qua heal instead
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: you can't cancel commands that are already queued on the mud, the only way is to disconnect and reconnect
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Don't really think clients have a cancel button
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: They don't. The wait state is pulsed by the mud not client side.
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can use/write plugin that will manage stack and support cancel
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: can't cancel in BT. no.
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tuesday Tech: oh I used  to play with mudmaster and the cancel command was - - guess I'll have to be careful spamming attacks
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: what is blowtorch?
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Was about to say, some people got command stack plugins so technically you can make similar for BT
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: mobile client
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: im on it right now. android app. sign up for the beta, that's the latest maintained.
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: As is, alot of plugins are almost ports of the mushclient originals
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: never used a command stack management plugin, how well do they work given that aard commands have variable delays (combat vs non combat, etc)?
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: plugin send new command when get confirmation of receiving previous command by mud
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: you use echo to get acknowledgement or spelltags
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and some commands bypasses such stack manager - like retreat / flee / gt / say
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: ah right echocommands would work
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: There's no option in settings to make it so we can leave the trigger window open & toggle back to main window is there?
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: do you mean to make it not a modal?
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: that would be nice... I'm not aware of a setting that does that though
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: Thanks, didn't think so. Was hoping I just missed it
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: there may be, I've never thought to look for it myself
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: I'll ask Fiendish when he's on if I don't forget
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: that seems to be "ships with Mushclient" issue.. but he may have some insight
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: I quickly went through settings/properties and didn't see anything that looked promising
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: Thanks, I looked twice and didn't notice anything either. Maybe he could add that in a future update
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: well that's kind of what I meant by my comment.. I'm not sure he has the ability to change it or not
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: someone else maintains the core Mushclient
T3/r7/2021-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: yeah, me either
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: to uninstall mushclient i just  delete the directory i installed it to?
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yes
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: its just too much
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: how do I solve the "X-runto: There is no default start room defined for area"?
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: rt <area>, and when you're in the room: xset mark
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: ummm go to the area using runto from recall and then explore a bit, then try going there again
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: once you are sure it isn't a not explored/mpped issue then use xset mark
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: I used the runto and also manually entered and exited the area fron the continent, didn't seem to solve it, I'll explore the area more
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if exploring doesn't solve it, then resort to xset mark
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: whats that?
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: xset mark  basically marks the landing room in an area, so you can change it from the default room
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: useful in areas like tir na nog etc
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: hmmm... I get "26151 set as starting room for immhomes" when in tilule
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: "where" says I'm in the correct place though
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oh wait, umm you need to add the area to the area table and i can't remember the command to do that
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: try xareas
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: not a command
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: "mapper areas" does list tilule btw
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: are you using crowley's version of S&D?
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Szzilleriel Tech: if xareas isn't a command you don't have mapper extended
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: I got mind from here: https://github.com/aardthridi/Search-and-Destroy
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: was there a better one?
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: crowley has been advancing it since then, but you can also finger pwar for a version. both with proper documentation
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: ah thanks
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oh yeah, finger either of them for the url to find them
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: does lua have something similar to python's range()?
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: what is python's range function?
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: it populates a list with the range that you specified
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: I want to populate a lua table
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oh, not that i am aware of, so you'd go range(tablename, lownum, highnum) ?
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: time to go, before the power takes me down....
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: yeah something like that except it returns the list
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hmmm... Is there a good way to escape certain characters so that the string containing the character is still saved to the database and you can look up the string in the database just like it was before escaping? LUA+Mushclient+Sqllite
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: there should be some library function to do that for you, find out what library mush uses to talk to sqlite and check the docs for it?
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: the sample invheader shown in help invdetails shows a couple of empty slots between timer and itemscore, can it be assumed that they will remain empty for all items until further notice?
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: I see that Blowtorch supports plugins. Does anyone know if there are any for Aardwolf?
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: finger shindo
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: board tech;note read 8032
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: notwithstanding my artwork...if I smoke near a computer, do I risk harming it?
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: the fans maybe?
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: yeah that was my thought, so Ill just keep step out. thanks sath
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: tar on the monitor too.
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: and the heatsinks.
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: also might accidently set your house on fire.
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: that really does a number on the hard drive.
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: thanks yall. im most concerned about the egpu. house? lol Im lucky if I dont set my hair on fire
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: tar covers everything. a fan&heatsink essentially tries to get as much airflow over as large an area as possible. exponential tar accumulation
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: wait til he hears what it does to lungs
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: back in the day of tube monitors I was a smoker, turned the thing yellow.
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: lol i was thinking screw the computer 
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: you should be more worried about the effects of smoking on yourself rather than the computer
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: cig will break you
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saraya Tech: glad  quit eyears ago 
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: i tried really hard to keep my answer tech-y lol. but ^^^^
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: get winded in bed
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saraya Tech: as for the tech good god
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saraya Tech: it turned yellow?
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: Ive got two mini fans over the nuc and the egpu, then a keyboard one. I probably should clean them tomorrow :-/ and feel free to discuss smoking with my neurologists or send me nicorette. because ive been specifically advised TO keep smoking
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saraya Tech: i feel so confused, and i wish adaptive tech wasn't so freaking expensive, it's amazing what they have out now
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: i advise you to not keep smoking. blame it on the gpu if you'd like. 50/50
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: good advice counters bad. now it's up to you :D 
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saraya Tech: it's not easy i quit cold turkey and that was hard 
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: same
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: I promise I didnt mean for this to evolve on the wrong channel :)
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saraya Tech: i want that new android the one with the huge screen at least then maybe i can get a bigger idea of pix i am looking at still not best but i have limited sight 
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: good advice on the wrong channel is still good advice. 
T3/r7/2021-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: https://www.ladbible.com/entertainment/celebrity-kirk-douglas-managed-to-quit-smoking-using-his-dads-technique-20200206 
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: is there a way to detect when you are fighting more than 1 mob?
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i get all sorts of errors when loading up the file for aard but then it magically works once i get out of all the dialogs. time to move this to documents.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: I put mine in C:\users\Public\Public Games\ so it bypasses UAC controls
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: my problem is on load i get something about sharing violation but i have it set to run as admin the other day it all worked fine.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: could be some process trying to inject his code into mush
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: probably antivirus trying to scan the plugins before they load
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: switch to linux and run wine, and if you need windows for something you can always use vmware to run it in VM
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: Switching to Linux is not a reasonable answer for most people
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: nope
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is not easy option for most people, it is quite reasonable if you care for privacy
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: lets see if restarting this will help or a reinstall.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: Linux gives YOU NO privacy that windows doesn't lol
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i set mush reader to global load.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: You think linux makes websites magically quit recording stuff about you?
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: you think your linux distro doesn't send the same metrics back windows does? *giggles*
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if does not send any metrics
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: what distro you use?
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: debian
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: 100% sends metrics back
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: as a matter of fact they have your servers daily uptime recorded lol
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: yay for errors be back once i set this up in my documents folder this will take a while.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: actually everything sends metrics, if I use ping it will send some info
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: cause then i gotta get pei's old soundpack to load.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: main difference between linux and windows considering those metrics is that you have control over your system
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I feel more in control of my windows installs than of my linux installs actually. There are a lot more different entities involved in Linux imho
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: Thing with linux is you get to choose which of those entities to involve.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Exactly
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: That's good, but you have to do that individually for every part of the system
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: And every package
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: but its a lot more difficult to make those dicisions and implement them
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: I own a hosting service. I'm in the process of figuring out what I'm gonna dump CentOS for. Since it's just gonna be a beta release from now on
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use any rolling release distro
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I was always a bit disappointed that you were unable to oficially upgrade RH/Centos 4 to 5, then 5 to 6, then 6 to 7
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and I am not sure how can you feel more in control of windows installs, unless you mean that windows installer shows you progress bar
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I like Linux, for certain things... But it's not there usage-wise. There are better and worse distros but... None of them are at the same level as Windows for the end user.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I liked Ubuntu until they did that stupid ui change
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: And my first computer OS was Slackware
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: a lot of users just need web browser, whether it is run on windows, linux, other os - it does not matter
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but then a lot of users dont
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: pop_os was infinity (times 2) easier for me to set up than an Apple I'd bought, isnt that like their whole reputation? 
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: My first OS was MS-DOS 4.01.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: you didnt start on 3? smh
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: 3.0 came out in 1986. PC were not needed as much then.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sorry, it might have been 1985.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think I first used CP/M :P
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: TI Basic for me
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I played on Apple IIe when I was a kid at school.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: slowest internet speed you started with? I was so thrilled to get 14.4kbps lol
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I had 9600 baud
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: 1200/75
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: 14.4k dial-up was the best.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I think we went straight to 32kbps after that though
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Then 56k and then some "super 56k" :P
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Xyzzy Tech: 300 baud
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: there were slow modems but then it jumped so fast, think within a year
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: 3300 baud dialing up to the AnyTHING Goes! BBS before internet was a thing lol
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: internet was expensive so bbs stuff was big
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: phone calls were expensive too
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: I originally used a BBS with a T1 connection and exploited their mail client to drop to shell and get on IRC lol
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: think I never had to download games for some reason
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: from an IBM PS/1 with a 25MB hard drive and graphics memory measured in kb lol
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: just music and lewd stuff
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: a playboy picture took ALL night to download and there was no preview so it might not even have nudity or even a girl in it. You might get the half a page with nothing but a couch in the picture lol
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: i liked playing simcity (original) from 5.25s
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh I loved that game
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I was so bummed how badly they missed up the last one in the series
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: Sim City and then Oregon Trail where you could name the characters your enemeies and watch them die lol
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego?
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: oh i played oregon trail at my elementary after we finished our typing lessons. Always ford the river!
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: First game I remember is Zak McKraken I think
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: I loved Sim City. So much fun to leave it running all day and see what the result was with diasters turned on.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I played commander keen a lil bit, then golden axe
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and gods
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh Commander Keen was excellent
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: Oregon Trail. Name all the characters people you don't like and see if they can make the trip with no food! lol
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: And a little later the Big Little Adventures or whatever it was called
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: I liked Earl Weaver Baseball, used to play right hand versus left hand. Ive gotta find some simulator
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: you know. I still have the floppy disks for all these games in a drawer next to me lol
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Day of the Tentacle
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: got a copy of windows 1.3 on floppys here too lol
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: and that's not 3.1 the first really popular consumer version
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: thats 1.3 it only had four buttons to click lol
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: dos to windows was a leap
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I remember my pro-tip for my friend who's parents had gotten their first computer running Windows 3.1
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: "If you gather all programs in one folder, they're easier to find"
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: So we did
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Put everything in the autostart folder
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Lets just say Windows 3.1 didn't handle that all too well
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: My first Windows 3.1 computer was a Compaq and had this thing called TabWorks on it. It was AWESOME at organizing on its own
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: everything else about it was annoying but you could definitely find what you needed
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: now it only throws one error think it has to do with that global load.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: time to do some checking.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: does it mention System32 directory?
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: no
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: good least you're not gonna have to manually edit a bunch of files like I did lol
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: oh wait yeah it was still trying to load from my program files directory
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: What's the problem?
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: my mushclient is acting lame and throwing errors. so i had to do some doctoring of things.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: Forced obsolescence from Apple is fing BS. Ive told this to multiple friends who work there. Do I want one of their stupid music players? Heck no ive got enough mics in my house probably already
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: but everything works now.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: I have a google mini that I leave open to the public for giggles
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: I'd had people play everything from baby shark to russian horror porn lol
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: about once a month someone destroys it and I have to reflash it
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: same errors are now coming up they did not till i closed and reloaded i saw a command prompt window come up when i loaded.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: What antivirus you got installed Jenni?
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: nod32
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: it usually doesn't give me trouble.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: hopefully i fixed it by disabling the plugins that threw errors.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: going to test.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: well it tried to work saw that command prompt window again but not sure what it was doing. it flashed then went away. then like seven errors came up.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: then i got something about not responding then it came up i am using the non visual package.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Can dinv list duplicate items? 
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: but all the plugins that it werrored on and said would not work now work once i hit ok on all the errors.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i wonder about that.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: going to strip her down and start fresh and copy over my plugins from my external
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Do you start your mushclient from start-menu or from the actual folder it is in?
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: the folder. created a desktop shortcut to the documents folder version.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I sometimes get a weird error that it can't find certain files if I start it other than going to the folder the .exe is in and start it from there
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: shortcut won't work
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: not unless you edit the shortcut and put in a working directory
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i am getting a sharing violation and a bunch of other errors.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i went to the file in my documents direcotry and sent it to the desktop as a shortcut like i have done before.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: you need to actually open the folder mush client is installed in and run the icon in there a bunch of the plugins use ./ and try to access system 32 if you run from a short cut
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: oh.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Try launching from the folder the exe is in
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: See if it does differently
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: even if i sent the folder  exe to the desktop?
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Shortcuts seem to mess things up with Mushclient
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: all right never seen this with my portable setups.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: you'd need to open that exe you sent to the desktop and put in "C:\users\myusername\mydocuments\mushclient\" or what ever in the "TARGET" box for the shortcut you created to work
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i am running two no  three portables that dont do this.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: ah got it.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: let me go do that.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Try first if it launches differently from the folder
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: ok
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: I don't know when they made the changes as it was like that when I showed up two weeks ago but it's done like that so it'll run on mac windows or linux with all the plugins enabled
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: odd it still threw plugin errors and the like i don't have it set to open the aardwolf file by default cause i use mush for other games and well yeth going to try something.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: that could be your issue. I just made a separate install for other muds and let this one do its thing
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: no other files mess up just the aardwolf file.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: now mush reader is loading with all files like i want it too.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: create a new connection for aardwolf
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: so i am going to delete the old aardwolf.cml file and rebuild it from scratch
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i know how.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: open it without connecting
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: then import the aardworl.mcl file
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: ok.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: wolf* that would be my first try instead of trashing everything
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: where do you go to import files?
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: oh i see it.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: never mind.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i miss the obvious sometimes.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Don't we all, most of the tiem? :P
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Time
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: if that works it was some setting you changed in mush. If it doesn't then you'll probably need to rebuild the mcl cause it's something that changed in there.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: I still just find it a lot easier to keep my normal mush client and then run the aardwolf installer to install a second one just for aardwolf. kept having problems tryign to run both in one.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: plugins would stop loading, or load and not create a window. Plugins would freak out while logging in.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: they don't exhibit that behavior in the aardwolf installer ever for one reason or another *shrug* didn't care enough to look any further once it worked
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: ugg. i am going to go rounds with this thing.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i started setting up my plugins and it threw errors.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: but once ya get past all the errors nothing is broken
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: install virtualbox, install a linux guest, then install wine, then run mush :)
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: hey dont run me! :)
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i may of fixed it i found some duplicate lua files laying around.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: lets see.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: trying to load two of the same file with the same name into the same space could give you a sharing access violation
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i think thats probably something on my end.
T3/r7/2021-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: it crashed.
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Anyone know the command to pause Pwar's spellup plugin?
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Areia Tech: disablespellup
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: disablespellup
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Same command to restart it
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Thanks - have to dispel to access a room :)
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I would like to use the targeted mob in Crowley's SnD in an alias. Example, aliases qw or kk do actions on the target mob. I would like to add an alias that targets that mob. Any ideas how to do that? I already tried to replicate the kk stuff, but I don't read demon glyphs or Greek, so I probably missed some things.
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Ooh! Got it! I'm a little nervous now though. I think I've cracked a piece of the Demon Glyph system - or maybe the Latin, not exactly sure which.
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: lua, it's portuguese
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Portuguese? I thought Crowley used Demon Glyphs and Latin?
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: well Aleister Crowley probably used both
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I feel like I need some type of honorary certificate for adding a functioning alias to his SnD?
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torsin beams proudly.
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I mean either you wanna learn some or you dont
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: otherwise you can pay someone to do it
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Portugues?
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yeah, it's written in portuguese
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Oh, man - my head is starting to spin!
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: spinning heads is a sign you got two of your demon glyphs backwards and summoned Cthulhu by mistake
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I knew I had reason to be nervous!
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: depends on the rotation of the head
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: widdershins, I believe - is that good or bad?
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: less than two rotations is fine, if you go 3 or more rotations, see a doctor
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: witch doctor, I presume? I need to make an appointment, I think.
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: no, a real doctor, where do you think medicine comes from?
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: the devil
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: witch doctor? that doctor
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: werewolf?
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torsin laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tyranno Ruckus points excitedly at a ferocious wolf!
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: l
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: nah, gl
T3/r7/2021-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Are we going back to OpenGL?:P
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if var1 OR table[key] == "" then   <-- why is mush complaining about this
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: isnt OR valid for condition
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: use more parentheses
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: lisp it up!
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's something else
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ')' expected near 'OR'
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: if (var1 OR (table[key] == ""))
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: same error
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: if ((var1) OR (table[key] == ""))
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: what is the exact error?
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ')' expected near 'OR'
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I can split the or into 2 IFs but it's like
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: am I getting trolled
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: count all your partheses.  its saying theres an unmatched one somewhere.
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: also, yes.
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: they match, it's not that big of a block
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: maybe theres a builtin function named OR() ?
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: cant imagine thats the case tho.
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: maybe before or after the block?
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if ((var1) < 150 AND ((var2) OR (table1[key] == "")))
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: am I blind
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ')' expected near 'AND'
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: makes no sense
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: the counts look ok to me, but you need more parentheses.  that AND looks naked.
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: gonna drop all of these
T3/r7/2021-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: if ((var1 < 150) AND  (var2 OR (table1[key] == "")))
T3/r7/2021-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: is anyone else having issues with the play store? it just keeps switching randomly. These are 2 brand new phones. wtf
T3/r7/2021-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient blah blah
T3/r7/2021-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: what is the xset command to disable auto-noexp?
T3/r7/2021-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: xset noexp 0
T3/r7/2021-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: No treid that - leaves it on but set 0
T3/r7/2021-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: should be able to just do 'noexp' yourself then to re-enable xp
T3/r7/2021-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: No you're irght sorry
T3/r7/2021-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: I'd missed something
T3/r7/2021-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: does mushclient run on chromebooks?
T3/r7/2021-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Bread Dashiell Tech: I thought it kinda walked at best
T3/r7/2021-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyranno Ruckus Tech: heyo
T3/r7/2021-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Battle] Scars hugs Long Bread Dashiell.
T3/r7/2021-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: dad joke game on point sir
T3/r7/2021-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could possibly get it running with wine on intel-based ones, but not sure
T3/r7/2021-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: How do you restore an archived mapper database? I can't find anything about restore in the helps.
T3/r7/2021-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I open mushclient like once a week and very out of touch.  But close it out, and copy over the aardwolf.db in the Mushclient.exe folder is my best recollection.
T3/r7/2021-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It is important to close out Mush, and make copy of the entire folder before you do it IMHO.
T3/r7/2021-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: just copy a file from /db_backups to the root mushclient directory and rename it to Aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2021-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tuesday Tech: -poultice
T3/r7/2021-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Wasn't sure if that would with the archive extension. Thanks
T3/r7/2021-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: why am I see {coords and {rdesc tags in room descriptions
T3/r7/2021-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: help tags
T3/r7/2021-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redlegs Tech: or to use the right channel even
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So if I hit CTRL + W, Mush will automatically add "Whisper " to my command line. It's not in my list of Macros, I never added it and I can't seem to remove it. How do I remove it? It's a bit annoying.
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: open your macros, its htere
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: game->configure->macros
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It isn't.
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No CTRL + macros are in my list of macros.
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: game its just called whisper (near the bottom)
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I see. Thanks.
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: well I think that's it anyway...
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Do you know which macros the logout, look, quit, say, take, who, doing, drop, examine commands correspond to? In case I wanna use them for something else.
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: not sure why there is not a keystroke associated with them
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: I am new to mushclient too.
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: WTH? CTRL + R is logout. R?!
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doge Water Yajan . o O ( come on think.. what's a snarky reason for R... )
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: CTRL+R should be resend last command by default lol
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And CTRL + L is look. The others don't seem to be any of the keys.
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And CTRL + L is look. The others don't seem to be any of the keys.
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And CTRL + L is look. The others don't seem to be any of the keys.
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And CTRL + L is look. The others don't seem to be any of the keys.
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Whoops. Didn't mean to hit it multiple times.
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: I am new to mushclient too.
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Any idea how to remove that? I don't want to accidentally do that.
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: did you set them on a laptop with the numbers on top of letters? without numlock on? lol
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: agree szz
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I haven't touched any of them except Whisper, now, which is just empty.
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: after removing, what does ctrl-w do now?
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I left it empty. It does literally nothing.
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Doesn't seem to be a way to disable CTRL + R, though. Which is annoying.
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Because it's not in the macro list.
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: maybe able to override using accelerator
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I must have mapper set up wrong for portals. I'm in a prison, no summon area. When I try to use SnD to go to another area, I get a can't find a path error. What do I need to set up?
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Maybe it can't find a path to a portalable room to get out?
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: It should be able to just recall, I shouldn't have to do that manually, should I?
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Might happen if the prison is in a maze...
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: No, it's the battlefield area of Cougarian, but it happens in noportal rooms.
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: I think recall is manual yes
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: does mapper/SnD have a database of no-recall/no=portal rooms?
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well when trying to move, it should try moving you to closest portalable room, then try using a portal
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: the mapper builds norecall/noportal data as you successfully/unsuccessfully portal or  recall
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: It should be able to recall if portals don't work though.
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Mapper has a notation of norecall and noportal, yes
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: damn mobile keypad
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Still don't think it auto recalls since mapper has no idea where your recall leads...
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it does if you tell it
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: maybe I need to implement something similar for mudlet, what I'm doing now is manually designate no portal rooms, I should auto note down the room
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Yeah, I set it up to recognize my recal.
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: If you set recall command as a portal, it will use it as such
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I don't have something set right though.
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well all mapper does is match the portal/recall bounce messages and flag the room accordingly
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: And since gmcp sends the UID of the room, you'd have the info you need
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Yeah, that's what I'm not sure about, what I have set up wrong.
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Got it! mapper bouncerecall <index> was the command I needed.
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: mapper: is there a way to block passage through a mapped room for speedwalk purposes?
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yep
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the 'from' room, level lock the exit
T3/r7/2021-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: ah hah. TY!
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: how to switch off the sound of mushcliend of aardwolf?
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: spmute
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: sphelp for more info on sounds
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: yeah,i mean another sound except this sphelp
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: MushClient doesn't make any sounds on its own without the soundpack. Any other sounds would be standard windows sounds. Unless you've set some up yourself.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: still the sound to read english sentence
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: either you have the VI client instead of the normal one or you turned that on somewhere. That's not default mushclient behavior.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: if you downloaded the VI client it's for the visually impaired and it's GOING to read stuff to you afaik.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: you could open your volume mixer by right clicking the speaker in system tray and turn the sound for mushclient all the way down. Only way you're gonna stop that if you have the VI client installed.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: woho,thank Szzilleriel,all normal,its resolve,i check the speaker
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: spsound with mushclient is nice
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: is there any way to turn off ansi or color everywhere on mush?  not just on game window?
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HazeKnight Tech: "color"?
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: could set all the colors to black and white under file -> world properties -> appearance.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: if you go into config mush allows you changing colors... so technically you could change them all to what ever color you want
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: any rust coders here?
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: darnit stop using my name! :) 
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Holy Crap!!  CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL just kicked SNEAKER Mushambo right in the box!
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: I like mushy peas.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ewwww
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: vacate yourself right now you infidel
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aberrant chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: is there anything in the help/commands that can indicate which spells are area spells?
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: other than a detailed reading of hte help item
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: you can type spells area to see what spells you have that are area spells
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: I was hoping for something a little more encompassing. You cannot see anything out of your current sub-classes.  Eg., I am not yet ranger so cannot see those area spells./
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: spells all area
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: read the helpfile for all the filters
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why is this on tech
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: beats me
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: No. 'spells all area' only show for current subclasses. I am sure I just said that
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: AFAIK there's no way to mix the capabilities of allspells/spells/showspell commands.. they have their "usefulness"
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: they all have* (I've also wanted something similar to what you're describing.. but I don't think it exists in one command)
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Would be a simple script but large setup to create a databse of all skills/spells and who can use them
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: it's unfortunate.. because the spell / skill command has lots of cool filters you can use.. but it only works on those that you already have
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: and allspells with no filter just shows all your spells/skills and allspells <classname> only shows for one class at a time
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: mkay thanks. I do have allspells in a dbvar but, outside of'DAMAGE' type, there is no indication if it is area or not.  
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: and also doesn't except the spells/skills filters
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: accept* fml
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Sounds like an interesting concept
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: type slist then check them one by one. there. epic solution.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: wow, didn't know that existed, nice!
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: that feels very dmcp
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: err gmcp
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: I'm gonna go drown myself in a pot of coffee now
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: dirty bean juice is good for you. enjoy!
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: Wow! I never thought of that....oh wait, I did.  However, running help against 550+ skills/spells still not not clearly indicate if it is an area or not.  Plus, whoever created helps was not consistent.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: stinky bean water, dirty bean juice, brown rotten cherry water
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: 'whoever created the helps' lol
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: send your complaints to your closest circular filing cabinent
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: Dhalsim, you could post an idea.. honestly it's sort of a gap in functionality.. maybe a filter for spells command that shows "all classes, included unlearned ones" and also applies other filters, like a multi-filter
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: i guess spells area is useless?
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: doesn't help his use case (as I understand it)
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: I think I did something along those lines last year.  Or even a consistent help for each skill/spell with keyword, target (area, object, mob, etc), and primary/secondary stats.  Some are full word here and some are mnemonic (Constitution vs Con). Some have a '.' at the end, others do not.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: spells area all?
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dhalsim ) Circular statement. (See earlier)
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: yeah, that was suggested.. isn't quite what he's looking for
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: i guess i don't understand the problem, and the whiny tone about small differences in helpfile terminology is irritating to me lol
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: you want area spells, spells area gives that to you
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i dont get the need to know which spell is aoe if you cant use them anyway
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Essentially he wants a filter that allows him to see all non subclass spells of a type, of all classes regardless wether or not he has that mort
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: so this problem is 100% solved by reaching r7?
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: neat.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: go level, try your project later
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL laughs out loud at [Battle] Scars.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Like filtering out what spellups what classes have, to see which may have more buffs for next remort
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: I've run up against a similar problem trying to understand at what remort I'll gain spells or skills that do certain things.. like for example add certain stats
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: For auto spell/skill buttons. Based on level, primary/secondary stats, tier, etc.  The most ideal spell/skill is populated into a damage button
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: But yes, spells area all at R7 will yield the result...worst case, save it to a database for next tiers
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: if someone is that into details... they would have seen that question answered on q/a channel about 5 billion times prior
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: ...
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: maaaan.. I want a damage button
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: so the complaint here is that you can't build a practice bot/script ?
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: wait... is this for practice bot? if so please do carry on!
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: one button that I can hammer on when I want to damage things
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: like an easy button
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: i assume after you practice it?
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: since hammering that button without practicing won't do ya any good
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: no. The 'complaint' is that I can have 'fire', 'ice', 'mental' etc buttons for when bobs are unaffected by certain damage
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: I thought thats the button macroed to hammerswing??
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: mobs
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: it is :P
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: I liked bobs
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doge Water Yajan is agreeing with that MidKnight Gladacus person again...
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: right, so without having to remember that you gotta use some crappy fire spell with an obscure (to you) name, you click your fire button and life is solved
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: so having a full list of spells you cannot use seems less than helpful
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: Well, if you put it like that...
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Wont say BS is fun mode but sure is easy when things eventually die...
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amakuni Tech: -j 20
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: also, how many buttons do you really want? you gonna have one for all the damtypes?
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL hunches his shoulders, wrinkles his face, and squints at MidKnight Gladacus.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: u just wish you had a hammer
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: so you type every command to send a spell/skill to an enemy?
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: wut?
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Another step to Thor...
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: That seems very efficient
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: I type enough of the command to differentiate it from other commands.  then I hit up arrow and enter a low.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: bro, we all can aliases and macros
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: lot*
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: If you were my bro you would be dead
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: yes, murder solves all aard problems. so you should go murder things instad of figuring out how to make a big hammerswing button
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: i was just curious if you wanted 20 buttons for all the damtypes
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: no i think he said one that figures out best attack and avoids immunities
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: or maybe someone else said that? i got lost a while back
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: so this magic script will also be a mob database that store immunities and autochanges?
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: I did. As I made them manually and just populated each one with the 'best' damage for that type. SO calculations made with str, dec, etc were educated guesses as I did not have base/ave dam for skills/spells
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: are you aware that spells not from your pclass will generally suck?
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: damage wise
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: Yes. Still better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick against (eg) that angel thing which seems to be immune to everything.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: you'll generally only hit 1 spell per cast, so you /do/ damage and sometimes ya gotta deal with it, but this seems like a cp/q/gq mob issue
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: general mob issue.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: that would be more of general knowledge you get as you play...
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: i still think spells combat and spells area and all that fun stuf are perfectly suitable for your situations, since you wouldn't want to populate your damagebutton with something you can't use
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: also, maybe consider attack skills, too... they have damtypes that may be helpful
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: and i guess you practice all your combat skills/spells?
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: I thnk you miss the point. Button is only populated with things I CAN use. When I get to the point they may be used, they are...if their overall (possible) damage is better than others of that type.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: no...but one or two from each
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: at various levels
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: i do not understand why having your database filled up with stuff you can't use is helpful
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: when you mort, your list would update with your new skills/spells that you gotta go practice anyway
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: That's because you probably rely on others to do all your scripting and have little idea what may be more efficient and/or use less code.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: cute
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: god this attitude is hard to deal with
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: good luck in solving your problem
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: since no one can help you
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: then you understand what I have been reading the last 15 minutes as your responses have been more snide than helpful
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: most efficient is to bind what you use to a key and not write 100 page essay with crap that does 1/4 of what it should. as a thief casting spells is just bad idea period
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: lol
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: also avoiting leveling in areas that are immune to your dmg type helps. or so i heard
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: nah, just use that fire blast man
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: [1] Your Fire Blast <-*-><*><-*-> NUKES <-*-><*><-*-> a merdevil spectator! [430]
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: thx ill use this now!
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: i solve my immunity challenges with necromancer, so *shrug* i guess i let lasher code my script
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Is there a command that will replace what the command line with a set text?
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: help prompt
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I want to set an alias that will send a command to the command line so I can choose to hit enter or not for the command.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: help alias?
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's looking for the function that injects text to the input bar
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Yes! Abelinc, thanks for the translation :)
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is a function for it, but I don't remember it offhand
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Yeah, someone was talking about a pre-set macro ctrl + w that sends whisper to the input bar, but I don't see what how it's done.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try http://www.mushclient.com/scripts/function.php?name=PasteCommand and http://www.mushclient.com/scripts/function.php?name=SetCommand
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's slight differences between how each works
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Thanks! I didn't even know what to search for :)
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: how do you reset the winodws in aardmush?
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: mine have gone all wonky and most of the plugins are gone too
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: resetaard I think
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: ok thx
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: thanks all, found a backup file and the resetaard worked
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lews wildly high fives the air, looking very foolish -- very foolish indeed.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: Hallelujah! *Jesus saves*
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Xyzzy Tech: But Satan gets the rebount... he shoots... HE SCORES!!!!
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: is there a way to see a list of all the rooms mapper knows in an area? or a count?
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: there's no commands for that, no, but you can access the database and pull whatever data you want
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: Losteix, what problem are you trying to solve?
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: there are some other tricks with the mapper.. depending on what you're trying to do
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: mapper areas aylor
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: oh well guess you can get a count
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: i have an area that was explored in the past without mapper, so explored here shows 100%. i just wanted a quick check if mapper knew all the rooms without having to manually go through them one by one.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: you can use that command for total count and mapper unmapped for quick unmapped exits check
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: hisazul: that's perfect. apparently i explored one more room than exists, so that's cool.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: some rooms are flagged as noexplore. usually goal rooms and the like
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: you occasionally see rooms for aqs/goals that arent tracked on mudside explored percentage.
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Perryn Tech: With snd, when I use the nx command it moves to the room and scans for mob
T3/r7/2021-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Perryn Tech: (darn semicolon) however, today it has started to scan for the last mob in the current room instead of the target mob. Any ideas what is happening there?
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: anybody know a hack to see who reported me on fb?
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: it's designed to keep the reporter annoymous
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: things arent always as they seem :)
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Hacking the Gibson right now, I'll let you know after I'm done with this.
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: best of luck
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Hack the planet!
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: meh have anybody deal with mushclient shooting out an error of .\worlds\Aardwolf.mcl contains an invalid path when trying to sign on?
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: on linux
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Does anyone know how to use the function PasteCommand()? I want to have an alias that puts a command into the ouput window, but I can't figure out how PasteCommand works.
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What do you mean output window?  Like do you want the command to be sent to the MUD?  Or just put in the command box to be sent when the user presses enter?
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: command box
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You are probably looking for https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=SetCommand
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: SetCommand then.
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I should try that I suppose, but I have MUSH set so commands stay in the command box after being sent.
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Then I don't think you can use that.
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: That's what I was thinking.
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: ALright looks like PasteCommand is what you want :)
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You need to call it from a script.
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I guess tell us what you've tried and what is happening...
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Let me try one thing quick. Thanks!
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I put 'previous = PasteCommand ("swordfish")' the example from mushclient.com in the script - send to script. Nothing happens.
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: OK how are you calling the script?
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: add a 'Note("IT WORKED!")' right below to make sure the script is actually executing as you think.
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I'll add that, I'm just calling it as an alias.
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: The note shows up, but the command box doesn't change.
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: maybe try calling it from a macro/hotkey
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Can't test right now, but I wonder if calling it as an alias replaces it right before it is cleared by pressing enter....maybe try putting it on a slight delay through https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=DoAfterSpecial
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But yeah try using it the way you'll actually use it...
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: With a macro or trigger or something...
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I'll be using it as an alias.
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: The doafterspecial could work though. Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: doafterspecial with sendto.command doesn't work either.
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I have Auto-repeat Command ticked, I wonder if that is interferring with those commands?
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: does setcommand or pastecommand (or whatever you're using) have a return code to indicate success etc?
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I added Note("working") afterward to make sure the alias is working.
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: but that doesn't mean your other command was working
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I just noticed that after turning auto-repeat command off, PasteCommand("test") is appended to the end of the previously entered text, but removed immediately so I barely see it before it's gone.
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: setcommand returns something if it did/did not work
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Nothing is returned When I use SetCommand("test")
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: the docs says setcommand returns eCommandNotEmpty : Command area was not empty or eOK: Set OK
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Hmmm, I'm not getting either of those.
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: As an alias it should be sent to script, right?
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: I've no idea, I don't use mush
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: but I'm curious why are you using an alias?
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: to me it sounds like you are trying to use scriptonly function in alias/trigger
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: wouldn't it be better to use a hotkey?
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I'll try it as a hotkey, guess I just like useing aliaseses.
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: it just seems odd that you're typing something into the commandline (your alias) to inject something into the commandline, what's your use case?
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I want to target a mob, volley, then have shoot set up so I can hit enter (with auto-repeat command on I can keep hitting enter to shoot).
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Maybe convoluted, but that what makes sense in my mind.
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: ok, I had to look up target and volley, how about setting a variable to target (can use alias to do that) then have a hotkey that spams volley <target_variable>?
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Thanks for looking that up! I do have what you suggested setup, but was trying to streamline even more. I think I have a history of over-thinking these things. :)
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: help volley has an example of a simple MUD-side alias, which does volley followed by several repetitions of shoot
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: or if you want to move around or take other actions between shots you can just volley and have shoot bound to some unused key on your keyboard
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Yeah, I did see that, Spronktar.
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Yeah, maybe I should just play around more with what I've already got.
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Thanks for looking into this!
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: I would personally bind it to numpad 0, since that is by default bound to scan, and I have no problem scanning manually
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: Yeah, I have a good setup for a shoot hotkey.
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: is there a mushclient function that gives you the width of the output window in columns?
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: it will be from https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=GetInfo   maybe those values down around 240
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: or maybe 290-293, i have no idea how TextRectangle works
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: anyone know of a way to get trigger code to run after all plugins/scripts have had a chance to gag the current line? Sendto=14 doesn't seem to do it
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: set the sequence # really high
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: for the plugin?
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: no, the trigger's sequence #
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: are trigger sequence numbers interleaved for different scripts/plugins?
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I thought mush processed one plugin/script at a time
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: oh, I misread what you wanted
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: yeah, I'm not sure how to do what you want
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I'd basically like to detect if the current line is being gagged by anything, so that I can DeleteLines(1), then reproduce it only if it isn't being gagged
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: guess I could emulate the mushclient trigger system on all plugin/script triggers :P
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: alternately, a way to run code on a line before it's displayed in the buffer would work
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: OnPluginLineReceived seems to run after it's already in the buffer
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Perryn Tech: I'm using conw plugin - I've been asked to try and stop it while at crec. Does anyone know a way to do that?
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Stop what? auto conning?
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Perryn nods.
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: type conw auto
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I don't suggest having conw auto on anyway, lasher added lag to consider so you'll get massive lag for no reason if you spam it too much
T3/r7/2021-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Perryn Tech: ah, thanks for that. :)
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is it possible for a corporation to monitor whether files are uploaded from a computer to a website? 
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: anything is possible. which corp? whose computer? which website?
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: presuming you mean that the corporate is controlling either the website or the computer, or some firewall between the two
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: in general, if you suspect your activity is being tracked ... it is.
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: and it probably is even if you don't suspect, at that.
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you control the computer (laptop), but let them take the laptop home etc, how do you track if someone uploads something?
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you run tracking software
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: device management type stuff
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: ^^
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are different "degrees" of how much it tracks and reports on, from just giving list of visited URLs up to and including giving screenshots and keystrokes of the computer
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: if you are using equipment that was given/loaned to you, it probably has remote management. it's to give them some liability (ability to wipe the machine if it's lost, etc) but will also generally provide tracking/reporting
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: will there be logs generated on the computer assuming you don't have software already installed?
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't have software already installed, there are tools that will let you kind of "replay" the web browser's cache
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that is subject to the browser's cache retention settings
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: apple? windows? linux? they have differing levels of visibility into remote management
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: windows
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: i'm least familiar there, so :disappear:
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and outside the corporate world, there are similar tools marketed as "net nanny" type software for parents
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yeah, but i assume that's not going to be helpful if someone wipes the cache
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I did run that software on my kids computers, on both Mac and Windows
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: i've been tormenting myself about this for years already lol and my oldest is 5. as someone very pro-privacy... oof.
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which captured screenshots, keystrokes, lists of URLs, IMs, etc.
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yeah, i figure if you have software already installed it can track everything, e.g. keylogger
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 5 year olds aren't entitled to privacy...I'm there to be a parent, not a friend
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: this is getting tangential but I'm leaning towards _blocking_ things but not tracking. but IDK. my kid is probably smarter than I am, so I'm effed anyway.
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but if you're trying to work backwards forensically, how much is available?
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: well, my 5yo doesn't have access. but as he gets older he will. IMO my job is also to let them explore the world on their own while still providing SOME safety net.
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how much is available depends on the browser cache settings and is subject to being cleared, using private browsing, etc. Now for downloading rather than uploading stuff, you've got a lot more to go on, as you can also attack it from the vector of "undelete" stuff
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: trying to look for uploaded stuff
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: i dont know what conversation im logging into but i outsource all my cybersec to protectstar. mic guard, camera guard, antispy, think theres another one. i asked tpb why they were helping me, gott replied because you were the only one dumb enough to take yourself off mute accidentally to ask if it was really us lol :)
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's actually one of the reasons I went with tracking rather than blocking...the teachable moments come as you see where they're going and what they're doing
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: your computer's logs/history are also only part of the picture. ISP/CDN/the website itself also probably log all of this. I'm not sure who has access to what in this hypothetical scenario
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: isp is generally a pain to get info from
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they wouldn't help a company trace an employee's visits
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: even if _the owner of your device_ doesn't know this info, someone does.
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: best to operate under that assumption, IMO.
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think Redryn's working for the company and they're trying to investigate possible data exfiltration, vs being the employee wondering what the company's doing
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: i just let various teams trip over themselves on my devices. i figure thats a valid strategy. let them figure out amongst themselves
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: ah lol i approached this as a "i goofed, will my employer know about it" lol
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yeah trying to see what's possible before paying people to do it... lol
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's on the employee side, then what you can do is wait and see...even when companies run the software it may still be that nobody actually looks at its logs/events...if it's on the company side and you deal with situations where you need the info, then I'd look into getting software to track and making sure the employee handbook and/or whatever they sign before being issued assets declares "we own this, it's for our use, we have the right to see everything on this"
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: why the heck does it cancel quest when quitting? i just wanted to reboot mush to fix mapper -_-
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: don't quit, just close mush
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tuesday Tech: maybe cause it thinks you might try to find the mob on an alt
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: you can just close mush and reload, takes 15min from LD to get logged off
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: hey dont close me!
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: shush mush :P
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: never knew it did this, makes no sense
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: makes no sense to quit eithert
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i hate linkdead status in middle of nowhere
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: if you're linkdead are you safe from attacks?
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: no, if youre OPK or in a PK clan that went LD in a PK room, you can be attacked
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: doesnt apply to him right now
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kagaku nods.
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: point was i dont like laving char in linkdead state. and the point stands that the whole mechanic makes no sense
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: and for the record kagaku, since I don't you from adam, I prefer my full name from you. Polite as usual! Thanks in advance
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: is there an easy way to see a plugin's aliaseses?
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: open the xml file and ctrl+f <aliases>
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boi Zyanya Tech: open in notepad 
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torsin Tech: I was hoping for a nice list like MushClient's aliases list.
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: How do you highlight specific pieces of text?
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: eg. If I get diseased during a fight, I wanna know so I don't try to sleep. Right now I'm triggering the "you feel very ill" text to push a "you are diseased" notification to my tracker channel
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: But that's an eyesore by itself. I thought a more elegant way would be to highlight the "you are diseased" message, say in bright pink so I can see it but it doesn't clutter up my comm log
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: If that makes sense?
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: change the text options in the trigger itself
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: where it says "change colour and style to"
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: perfect, thank you so much
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: or just trigger on it, set it to be omitted from output, and bring your own fancy message
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Than Tech: is there an auto open on doors for mapper?
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DangerMagoo Tech: mapper help exits
T3/r7/2021-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boi Zyanya Tech: Ruhamah has a plugin for that: https://aard.l33t.xyz
T3/r7/2021-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: considering how Shindo uses mush lua files for blowtorch, wonder if there's anyway to create a gmcp helper for it
T3/r7/2021-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2021-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amakuni Tech: when 4d?
T3/r7/2021-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yesterday. you missed it
T3/r7/2021-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Was a one-time deal.
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: is there a way to selectively identify/refresh items in dinv, short of 'dinv refresh all' ?
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: like if i change an item's wtype or damtype, for example
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: dinv forget then dinv refresh
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: most of the time dinv refresh should pick up only new items
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: Nohh is right, use the forget and refresh command
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: ahh perfect - thanks nohh!
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: so it seems like most item-altering actions are detected, unless they are done by someone else? ench, tempering, etc?
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah, that is my experience of it too, i think tpenchant might not be seen too BUT i always do a forget refresh after tpenchanting just in case
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: (i hammerforged a ton of items last tier and didn't realize until afterwards that only blacksmiths could unforge... had to ask someone else to change them all back hah)
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: don't remember having to do anything special about a tpenchant sess last remort
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i'm just paranoid...
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tsorovan Reyn peers at Sheriff Shindo and suddenly bolts off over the horizon!
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: Literally in the GB Survival guide "You're not paranoid if youre not wrong"
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i can't remember where this quote is from "just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they are not out to get you"
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: it's a nirvana song
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: that's what they WANT you to think
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: Territorial Pissings is the name of the song
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: it's from joseph heller, actually
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: nirvana borrowed it
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: oh, well, i've never read Catch-22
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: it's a great book!
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: +1 one of my absolute favorites.
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: what's the regex syntax for matching [this|that] ?
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: like this or that
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: (this|that)
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: how would I strip a youtube video into an .mp3 audio file so I can try to splice it together through a video editing app? or could the app do it? its all legal trust me, it's for a contest.
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: umm I used to use a thing.. one sec
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tuesday Tech: you can google YouTube to mp3 and then copy the url of the YouTube music video
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: thanks Tuesday :) (and yajan too :)
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: internet search brings up like 5 or 6 similar things. This one looks about as legit as the others: https://youtubemp3free.com/en/
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: will convert in browser then you download.. obviously make sure you can virus scan it.. although I'm not sure if mp3s could really pack much of a virus (honestly not sure)
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: I turned on spellups tags and I *sometimes* see {affon}614,1200 and {affoff}614 when entering and leaving combat. What is that affect, and why does it only show up sometimes?
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: it's hammerswing... showsk 614
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can always use "show <spellnum>" to see what things are by their number
T3/r7/2021-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: ahhhh thank you. I knew there was a command for it, I could not remember what it was
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: ^(\w+)\s\((?:\w+)\)\stells the CLAN\: is the trigger, but I need it to be two words after the persons name such as Exa (SUPER DUPER) tells the clan: anybody know how to do that?
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: do you know regex at all
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: NO
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: (?:\w+ \w+)
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: nobody should know regex
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: it's black magic
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: will that work Sath or do I have to use a \s for white space?
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: space is a regex literal
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it works fine
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: use regex101.com 
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: alright, i'll try it, thank you
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: change the (?:\w+) to a (?:[^\)]*) and it'll match anything inside the parentheses
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: how about all of us aren't nerds, to the snotty jerks.
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tuesday Tech: I'm a nerd and I don'conw know regexy
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: w/e it's rude to be a jerk on a tech help channel. Get a life.
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: who was being rude?
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akella Tech: I'm not a regex pro, so I find this site very helpful - https://regexr.com/
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: maybe she was just trying to figure out exa's level of familiarity before figuring out how to best help?
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: it was just a question, think you're reading into it a lot
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: if you mean me, i was asking if you knew regex because how you answer a technical question depends on what the other person knows.
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: well maybe I read into it.
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: I am trying to do this: table = { "0" = "zero", "1" = "one", "2" = "two" }, but lua doesn't like it
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: it doesn't like this either: table = { 0 = "zero", 1 = "one", 2 = "two" }
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: it only likes this: table = { [0] = "zero", [1] = "one", [2] = "two" }
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: so can I use a string with a number as an index?
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Intuition Tech: t = { ["0"] = "zero" }
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: hmm, that works in the standard lua interpreter, but it doesn't work with the mudlet's builtin lua
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Intuition Tech: I don't use mudlet1
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Intuition Tech: can't help much on that front, sorry
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: looks like I'll have to go with plain number index, and do a tonumber() on it first.
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: I think "table" may be a reserved object, at least in mudlet's lua, because after I did the assignment, some things stopped working
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Intuition Tech: yeah table is .... pre-defined in lua. don't name your table "table"
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: I restarte mudlet now I can do t = { ["0"] = "zero", ["1"] = "one", ["2"] = "two" }
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: but using "table" works in the std lua interpreter
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: <shrug>
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Intuition Tech: try table.insert(table, "ninety-nine")  after table = { ["0"] = "zero" } there.
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: now that messed it up: stdin:1: attempt to call a nil value (field 'insert')
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Intuition Tech: expected.
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: ok, I'll stay away from table :)
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Intuition Tech: you can however do table.insert(t, "ninety-nine") after t = { ["0"] = "zero" }. Not saying you should, but you can.
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kagaku nods.
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Than Tech: is there a good webpage explaining mapper portal setup?
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Than Tech: (yes I read the help files already xD)
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: if i can do it, anyone can do it
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: id your portal
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I think mapper portals were covered in one of the mentoring festival classes
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: copy the id
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: or you could just have ocho explain it :D
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: wear portal, enter portal
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Than Tech: you mean academy area?
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: no, there was an event run by kalista a while back to help newbies
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I can send you the logs if you want
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: then type mapper portal port pasteidnumber
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: then type xset mark
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: then put portal in a bag and type dinv refresh
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: all done
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Than Tech: ok thanks ocho i'll give it a go - cool
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: then when you want to go somewhere, you xrt area name
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: the dinv portal function lags
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: you can write your own portal alias if you want
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I always use "useportal" as a portal alias, then I can configure it at my leisure - using dinv, using whatever else, adding c 'invis' to the end so I can campaign easier
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: does mush mapper allow you to go to an arbitary room (id) and auto make use of portals if appropriate?
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Than Tech: yea I am slowly building up my database / adding cexits etc. - I'll sort through this info and work it out thanks again
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Yes, Kagaku
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: mapper goto <id>
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Than, lmk if you ever need help with mapper stuff
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kagaku nods.
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Kagaku you can even type "mapper where <id>" to see the speedwalk the mapper will use
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: it's quite amazing
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: you're quite amazing
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: I'm using mudlet and made a similar goto room function, I also managed to cobble up a portal system so that it will make use of portals if available, now I'm working on an inventory system
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: That's amazing work, Kagaku
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: you'll be the next fiendish :D
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: I doubt it, my code is messy and not suitable for publication :)
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: but it's fun working out how to do things
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: why would my NUC keep acting up?but it keeps wanting to reinstalli had all the coolers on. ive still got like 80 songs on the HDD. but maybe ill just fresh reinstall
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here for a bit
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: if mushclient is so good why isn't there a mushclient 2?
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: there was. now there's mushclient 5
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaven Tech: test
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaven Tech: anyone use, reworked, or have an inventory script/plug in that put the results in a miniwindow? (found one from Nick Gammon, but it's very old and doesn't do anything)
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: since it didn't seem like you got an answer, I don't use mush, but I believe the dinv plugin is what many people use
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaven Tech: thanks. I do have that installed, but it doesn't seem to have that functionality. The developer of Mush and plugin replied, but didn't say he would update plug in. Recommeneded I check here what folks use. Thanks though
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: think im going to have to reset the NUC dammit! means i lose like 75 songs i earned myself. f
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: I want to set up an alias in MushClient that takes a string like "grab 5 potion from bag" and will spit out "grab potion from bag" 5 times.  I know I need to use wildcards for this and percent-number variables to represent those wildcards, what I don't know is the syntax to use in Mushclient-based aliases, which I gather are in Lua by default
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: apparently you can do for-loops, which I'm familiar with
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: just trying to find the exact syntax for it
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: all of the examples I'm finding on gammon.com.au are more involved than what I'm looking for
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: you need to learn an appropriate scripting language to use those for loops in. Lua is most often chosen but you can use other scripting engines too
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: here is an example you can run right from the command line:   \\\for i=1,5 do Execute("echo hello") end
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: that was what I needed Durel, looks like it's working
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: cool
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: alias: grab * potion from bag   send to script: for i=1,tonumber(%1) do print("grab potion from bag") end
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: I ended up doing:  grab * * from * - for i=1,%1 do Execute("get %2 from %3") end
T3/r7/2021-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: have a similar one for putting multiple objects (but not the entire stack) back into the container
T3/r7/2021-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnN0yiNg Eadric Tech: i'm getting errors for GMCP, is that normal?
T3/r7/2021-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: If it's like the errors i get sometimes, restarting mush fixes it for me
T3/r7/2021-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: anyone familar with typetags?
T3/r7/2021-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Anyone know what blowtorch's equivalent of ; is?...line breaks?
T3/r7/2021-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: What's the best way to quickly hop on an alt without messing up your autoconnect settings?
T3/r7/2021-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: two different copies of MUSH
T3/r7/2021-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2021-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Antifa Raded crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Than Tech: anyone know how to restrict the search depth of the database other than quicklist?
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Than Tech: err for mapper I mean
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Than Tech: as an example if I have a very common room name, I only want to search my current area
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: mapper area [room name]
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Than Tech: sweet thanks that should do it
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can run Windows 10 on Android Cellphone.....
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: can doesn't mean you should :P
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: some of em maybe, and the ARM version of windows 10
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: 2 gb ram 1 gb used. jot for me
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It would be nice to run Windows 10 on my cellphone and play with AardMUSH on it.
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: mushclient wouldn't work
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: i think? idk what kind of emulation windows 10 arm has if any
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: anyway it'd be a pretty awful experience, it's not designed to be used on a cell phone
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: none yet, but hyperv is being fully integrated into the linux kernel, and windows plans on using that kernel once it does in the future.
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: there's always blowtorch if you want to play on an android device
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: I clocked into work today and my job appeared to block port 23.. Should I be concerned? I play during downtime at work
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: concerned about what? getting yelled at?
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: Yeah, I feel like they're catching on. I had to open the port via windows firewall rules
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: port 23 is commonly used for telnet.  if they wanted to block it and they were competent, they would either 1) remove your access to modify Windows Firewall or 2) block it at the network level using stateful inspection firewalls
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: then yeah maybe
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: I work with said firewalls
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: making friends in the IT department is important
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: Oh geez, that's rough... 
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: as for whether you should be worried..  what does your company IT policy say? :)
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: IT is like some invisible force. They're neither here nor there. Plus the pandemic has a lot of people at home working so, I can't make "friends" with them too much. 
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: IT policy is the same at any office gig. D
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: locking down port 23 is not unusually, it's not necessarily because of you
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: not unusual*
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: I can tell you that MUD traffic takes up almost zero bandwidth so it would not be noticed from a "what in the world is eating up all our bandwidth" angle.  But if they were doing a full policy audit and saw that some traffic was telnet, looked at their checklist and saw that telnet is supposed to be disabled, that could be it.  They probably won't actually bother to examine the IP originating that port 23 traffic unless you are in a very high security organization (finance/banking, energy sector, military or military industrial complex, healthcare, cybersecurity or software dev)
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: caveat - healthcare is not generally super high security but they do have a lot of weird laws they have to comply with
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: I work in Section 8 so low income, disabled, elderly housing subsidy. 
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: technically government, but not a part of the government I would normally think of as high security
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: tbh any organization should regularly audit their network
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: It makes sense though. I'll keep it in mind and just try my best not to die at work or before work
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: should, yes
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: idk it's a real clown fest over here sometimes. I was surprised i could make a firewall rule at all really
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: yeah, generally end users are not given control to local workstation firewall, or many local system settings at all
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: just as a rule
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: but if they're blocking ports via windows firewall on individual computers and then allowing user accounts to modify those settings they're clearly not all that competant at security
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: protectstar. Trust me
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: Lol. But then why block the port suddenly? I've been playing for a week or two at work. 
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: could've been Windows Updates.
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: yeah may have just been a settings refresh
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: why don't you ask your IT department about it :)  
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: "Hey guys I can't get to the game I play at work"
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: i dont even bother having to tape up my camera. Mic guard, camera guard, firewall, think theres a fourth. the mic guard always throws me off bc i have to ask if they can hear me
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: "hey IT, i noticed port 23 was blocked"???? LOL
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: Exactly, I "lost" my cam too just in case they're creeping. But alright. I'll just farm mobs super safe at work. save the hard stuff for off the clock
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: Thanks everyone. Big help!
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: according to the website you can also connect to port 4000
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: That's good to know
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: people will make fun of you though for connecting to the lamo port
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: probably also good to know
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: TPB does not mess around https://www.protectstar.com/en/ . think if i go through customs and "accidentally" forgets my pword code it shreds the device lol
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: Lamo port??
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: no one knows what port you connect to except i guess lasher maybe
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: don't mind me, sometimes I say stupid things because I think they're funny, but they're typically not
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: ...Lasher? wut 
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: Lasher is the owner of the game
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: I don't have any info on whether the game is hosted at a home server or through a hosting service
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: Oh right! I thought the name was familiar. 
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: last I heard, i believe it was through a hosting service
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: that was my understanding
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: that would be preferable to consumer grade home internet yes
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: lol
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: i mean you can look at the IP you're connected to... last i looked it was some hosting company in the southeast us
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: yeah, the topic came up when we had some intense weather in that part of the US and Lasher was concerned game might go offline
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: better than that datacenter where the rust servers were hosted that burnt down
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: yikesy yikes
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: anyway Inspecto i would try connecting to port 4000 and if that works fine just leave the firewall settings alone
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: and if 4000 suddenly gets blocked, they're on to you
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: Got it... how would I do that on cmd prompt?
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: the place doesn't sound like a default-closed environment so
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: you use the mushclient?
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: Not at work. Trying to stay as legit as possible so I just use cmd prompt at work
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: in command prompt it would just be "telnet IP port"
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: so whatever IP this server is
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: and then 4000
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: Oh wordddd. Got you. Making a reminder on my calendar. 
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: yeah like 'telnet aardmud.org 4000'
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: or yeah you can use the site name
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: your DNS will resolve that into the IP for you
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: The site name? 
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: the aardmud.org part
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: website names make sense to us humans but they don't make sense to machines, so they have to be translated into an IP address.  That's what DNS does.
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: so you type in google.com, DNS translates that to whatever IP address (let's say 10.53.74.1), then your computer slaps that IP onto the packets themselves before sending them out.
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: this works until it doesn't, lol - until you either can't reach your DNS server for whatever reason, or you can but that DNS server has no current entry for google.com
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: Then IT walks up to my desk with a shotgun that fires unemployment bullets
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: only if they're competent which from the sounds of it they're not
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: imagine leaving local firewall settings open for users to change.  tsk tsk
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: True haha. Maybe they think we wouldn't know about firewall settings and rules? tbf most people there are dumb as bricks. 
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: if it's gov't anyway they're not gonna fire you over that i'd imagine
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: what I have found is that everyone is smart at something.  it's just easy to dismiss end users as stupid because they are forced to use computers, which is not their speciality.  
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: Yeah I hear people get fired for worst things like online shopping or going on facebook live on the clock. 
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: you hear about that happening at your org?  I'd stop playing Aardwolf then
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: lazy managing imo
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: that or they're using that as an excuse to get rid of someone they wanted to get rid of already
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: LOL. yes. online shopping and facebook live. The fb one was more obv though. 
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: yeah there's that, too - when management does the whole "selective enforcement" so that they always have ammunition to fire someone.. Everyone uses Facebook but only Sam gets fired, etc
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: Also very true. I'm a great worker though. I know print, preview, save, save as...
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: easier to prove that than that they're just terrible at their job or smell bad
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: lol, good for you Inspecto 
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Spronktar winks
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: Alright so telnet aardmud.org 4000 tomorrow?
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: whats an unemployment bullet? a blank? rat shot? craps i was outside trying to figure out why my network analyser is showing "ba sing se" is like the closest one to me. all my neighbors are white
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: yeah i guess
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: assuming port 4000 is allowed across your company's network 
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: alternatively....
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: use chrome desktop from your phone
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: and just remote to your home PC
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: white people like anime too mushambo
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: what Scars suggested is better.  Bypasses the company net altogether.
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: ba sing se is from Avatar
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: or use their guest wifi
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: the last airbender, not the blue people
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: They're strict on phones nowadays and I'm at the front door of  the Inspections office. That's no bueno
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: then maybe just don't mud at work?
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: Guest Wifi requires a password and theres NO guests since pandemic 
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: I wouldn't risk it unless you have another position lined up somewhere
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: not worth the anxiety of having to pay bills while interviewing
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Battle] Scars Tech: yeah, i wouldn't do this imo
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: Unemployment is $600 a week so I'll be alright
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: or get your own little VPS and set up a proxy on port 80
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: lol it's your call.  I know when I got reduced to 20 hrs/week last March I couldn't even get through to the Texas unemployment people
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: of course, the entire state was trying to reach them at the time
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: I'm sure I'll probably get a warning but it most likely was an update or settings reset. I'll be working from home soon anyway
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: lol just remember, disconnect from the corporate VPN before connecting to Aardwolf 
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: a VPN... I wouldn't know how that would work from the office. I'll look into it. I'm just lv20
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: they're just not having you start wfh? gov't efficiency in action
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: Most are WFH. Newer employees are in the office currently. 
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: a VPN is just a tunnel to your company network.  When the VPN is enabled, it's like you're plugged in at the office.  When it's disabled, your computer uses your home internet.  So, if you connect to Aardwolf while the VPN is off, the session is formed using your home internet - then it stays on your home internet even after you turn the VPN on.
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: Tbf, we're "contractors" for Secion 8 housing authority. But that's getting into -isms lol. 
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: I know this because I'm doing it right now :)
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: Big brain stuff.. 
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: question can i store data in two tablesl
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: and have them corespond?
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: if using some form of sql table sure. Look into foreign keys
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: I think lua tables are essentially maps?
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: so if you give them the same key, it'd be easy
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: so for example tech yeah i am fam with lua not sql
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: I might be wrong about lua tables though.. but was thinking that's how they worked
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yes thats what i'm asking so i can store data1 in table 1 and data2 in table 2 both under the same key
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Androg Tech: relational database
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: graph database
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: I mean I don't know if that's the best solution, but I'm thinking that would be easy enough.. like if you know what key you're going to use in table 1 and you want to look up somehow similar data in table 2 and you gave them the same keys for that data which would correspond.. yeah you could do that
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok i think i can do what i'm thinking
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: selitos, if you're asking if you can do something like ... table1.val = X  table2.val = X  and then any changes done to table1.val are reflected in table2.val ? then it will work if X is a table, but if it's a value type (string/number) then no
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: probably make more sense if you describe what you're really trying to do instead of asking in the abstract
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Androg Tech: relational database
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Androg Tech: uhhh good work me.
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: does table.insert always append the string to the end of the table?
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: not at all, but if you don't specify an index that is what will happen
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok yes i mean if i don't specify an index
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: table.insert(table_ref, 1-based index, value)
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: the default index is #table_ref (the count)
T3/r7/2021-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: this allows for sparse arrays (the use of the index)
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Hey, so a while back, someone said it was possible to set up Alt + Numpad key macros in MUSH with some kind of workaround/extra work. Anyone know how you do that?
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: should be able to bind things to arbitrary key combinations using the Accelerator function: https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=Accelerator
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Uh... I have, like, no clue on how to make this work after eading that. I've never tried scripting before.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: so, what i might recommend is making two aliases.. matching like 'hotkeys enable' and 'hotkeys disable' or something.. both of em set to Send to Script... in the enable one, you just called  Accelerator("ALT+Numpad0","your command here")  and in the disable one Accelerator("ALT+Numpad0","")
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: and add a line in each for each keybindings you want to make
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Hmmm... but how would that make Alt+Numpad0 (for instance) call upon the hotkey in question?
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: you'd then type in 'hotkeys enable', it will then run those functions and mushclient internally will then run whatever you set as you command bound to ALT+Numpad0 whenever you press alt+numpad0
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh, I see. Will I need to do this each time I restart MUSH or will it save?
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: you'd have to do it each time i believe
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: or do something else that would run the command on start-up, there's a place to do that in the settings
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yay, it's working! Now to figure out how to run it automatically at startup.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Hmm... what would be the commands for the non-number keys on the numpad? /, *, -, +, ,/del (at least these are the keys I have on my Swedish keyboard).
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Numpad+ and NumpadPlus didn't work.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: there's a thingy if you go Input > Key Name...
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: you can put in a key combo and just use whatever it says in the Name field there
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks again!
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: to get it to run on startup you could make a trigger on some text that is printed out when you log in, that does 'hotkeys enable' with send to execute
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Uhhh... it's not working. Output says Alt+Add. When I add a line to the hotkeyson command for that, nothing happens.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: you'll have to run hotkeyson again
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Wait, it turned off somehow?
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: no, it's just every time you add a line there you'll have to do hotkeyson so that specific line gets executed
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ooooooh
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And do I need the off alias if I never intend to run MUSH with the hotkeys off?
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 Gamer ZzZzZz Tech: Hello, why is so many GPU's sold out around the Globe atm ?
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 Gamer ZzZzZz Tech: No stock rather.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: i'd recommend having it cause it's pretty easy to do and if something happens where you maybe overwrite a default keybind you end up wanting to use or something it'll save you from having to figure out how to unbind it later
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: mining of bitcoins and etherium and such
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: but no it's not strictly necessary
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Aight. Thanks for all the help.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 Gamer ZzZzZz grins at Negader, saying, "Okie dokie."
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: also GPUs are used for AI, i heard
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: supply is down, demand is up
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 Gamer ZzZzZz Tech: I see, do GPU'st cheaper in a years time normally ?
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 Gamer ZzZzZz Tech: gets cheaper*
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: supply is as is, but demand is up.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 Gamer ZzZzZz goes, "OK".
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: it's not just GPUs/CPUs, it's the entire semiconductor industry
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 Gamer ZzZzZz Tech: I didnt know there are so many bitcoiners out there, one would think Gamers trump them 1 to 10 ...
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 Gamer ZzZzZz Tech: 10 to 1*
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: it's not like a dedicated bitcoin miner is only going to be running a single GPU if they're profitting off of it, they'll run as many as they can
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: what Nohh said is true, Due to Covid, people have been buying lots of tablets, and gaming stations.  due to that, there is a shortage in chips.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 Gamer ZzZzZz Tech: Can you gfame on Miner dedicated GPU's lol ?
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: also factories shut down due to covid
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but robots making circuit boards can't get covid
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 Gamer ZzZzZz Tech: I see some GPU's have miner card printed on the add and dont even have HDMI port.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: gamers need only 1 or 2 GPUs, miners can use 10s or more.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: most of that is in the past, but there's more chips that go onto a GPU than just the nvidia/amd graphics core...
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i have a coworker who just started mining, he has 4 GPUs, and is looking to purchase more.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 Gamer ZzZzZz Tech: How many months before you make enough money to buy back that used GPU back ?
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: at the current price of bitcoins....
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: depends on the price of the coins
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: bitcoin isn't really what people are mining with GPUs, it's ethereum primarily
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: the crypto market, much like the epic eq market, is in a state of flux
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: it is an enigma
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: This is weird. When I use Input > Key name, Alt gr will show up as CTRL+ALT, but mapping acommand to CTRL+Alt+KEY won't work with Alt gr + the key.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: well i just have a boring old US keyboard so i can't really test anything with special swedish keys
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I would assume right-side alt isn't special for Sweden.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: you could maybe try "AltGr+X" instead of "CTRL+ALT+X", probably won't work but worth a shot
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nope, didn't work.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: this is when you need tintin to tell you what keys you pressed
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I was trying to use alt gr because alt + numpad command would sometimes output question marks to my command prompt-thing for some reason.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: the AltGr key in Windows is weird, windows kinda treats it as Alt+Ctrl which is why the Key Name thing shows that, but it seems to lead to a bunch of weirdness in a lot of programs with keybinding
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: but yeah also alt+numpad keys is the shortcut for typing in characters via their ascii values... so alt+1 will also print out ASCII key 1, which isn't printable so it sends a ? instead
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: This is so annoying. Every time I use Alt+Numpadkey (Any), MUSH places a question mark in my prompt, so I end up having to delete the random question marks before being able to do anything.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Aah. Any way to not have that happen?
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: toggle numlock
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: or don't use alt, use ctrl
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But toggling numlock just makes the numpad not work. I already use CTRL+Numpad. I want more hotkeys, it's why I want to use alt+Numpad.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: shift then? or shift+ctrl
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: or alt+ctrl should also avoid it from happening... or alt+any other key on the keyboard besides numpad
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Did a workaround. Used Synapse to rebind my keyboard so the Enter on my numpad sends Ctrl+Alt.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: Soooo... Ubiquiti Networks suffered a MAJOR hack where all customer data was exposed in January and the board tried to cover it up.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amakuni Tech: seeing. that happen more and.. more... 
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: their source was stolen and everything. A company employee didn't have 2fa on his lastpass password manager. There wasn't a system they didn't have access to.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: they had the encryption keys and all cause apparently they store them on production platforms lol. Some network security company.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: they even ran a bunch of VM's on AWS on Ubuquiti's dime for a while lol
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: but their execs and board members are still going to get their bonuses etc?
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: all they're gonna get is jail time. There's a whistle blower squeeling with documents signed in person directly by board members. There's emails that show board members ordering the coverup.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: Prt 4000 works! 
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: Port*
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: congratulations, now you can continue violating company policy :)
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: Shhhh
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspecto Tech: I was supposed to type telnet aardmud.org 4000 right?
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: that is the proper syntax yes
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: re: hack and coverup, wowzers, I guess the reason for the coverup was because they were a netsec company.  wouldn't want to damage the brand.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: it's especially embarrassing when you get hacked and you're netsec.
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaku Tech: have they blamed it on the russians yet?
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: hey is there any way to find out how much your mapper or your aardwolf.db has explored?
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: type explore
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: load it into a sqlite viewer and look at the number of rows in the 'rooms' table
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nohh Tech: type 'mapper areas' it'll say at the bottom of the list
T3/r7/2021-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: that's what I wanted, thank you