T3/r7/2021-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) LoUd-JuIcE Yamillay: '06 Jun 15:58:29 - Muzmuz tells you 'they used s-words like snake, salt, and such''
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'first! :) Lol Im sorry this is such ahot button item'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yes Sir! Trurien: 'Vost: how not? It's rare but it happens'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Countula: 'wooohooooo! Adult rated channel! Send in the naked virusses!'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yes Sir! Trurien: '"If a population is seriously under-immunized, there are enough susceptible children for the excreted vaccine-derived polioviruses to begin circulating in the community. If the vaccine-virus is able to circulate for a prolonged period of time uninterrupted, it can mutate and, over the course of 12-18 months, reacquire neurovirulence. These viruses are called circulating vaccine-derived polioviruses (cVDPV)."'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'where is the evidence that a botched roll out occurred?'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'you read the word "If"?'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'on the wapo article i posted...cutter incident'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yes Sir! Trurien: 'https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/sep/02/vaccine-derived-polio-spreads-in-africa-after-defeat-of-wild-virus'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'Think it was Abe...? About the quality control adherence from hundreds of thousands of people along the supply chain. It's like going to a restaurant, sure they might require employees to wear masks there, but what if the person goes and does keg stands with a whole bunch of people at a party later and then comes back?'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'that's not "botched roll out" '
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'It's not? Rushing something to market because polio was the second biggest fear after nuclear attack?'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'Sabin polio vaccine isn't new'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'it has been around since 1956'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'the potential for VAPP has been a justification for using Salk vaccine, especially in third world countries'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'so you could argue that it was a mistake to use Sabin when good coverage of the population can't be achieved (in this case, due to disruption to services from covid)'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: '"lack of experience and expertise at Cutter Laboratories undetected by the inspectors caused the disaster" hmmm once again, problems caused by incompetence! '
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'souce?'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'source?'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yes Sir! Trurien: 'deb Never mind, lost the discussion thread, cya next time.'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'the Cutter incident was in 1945'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'the Cutter incident was in 1955'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1383764/'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'right'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'unrelated, but Cypr's comment about goiters brought it to mind...there are a number of things which are seen nowadays that wouldn't have been seen or categorized properly in years past, some of which would show upward or downward trends in certain categories. Take for example SIDS (which is literally "a kid died and we don't know why"). I feel pretty confident that the sheer increase in numbers of severe peanut allergies, celiac, etc. is because those kids are no longer just dropping dead with people not knowing WTF happened'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'so your point is that testing of medical treatments in 1955 was inadequate...'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'Im not a virologist, nor do I have the best memory :) But I certainly pick up on some similarities with nutritional advice, namely boogie-man status of supplements, food items, etc., coupled with a sensationalizing press and snake oil salesmen'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'Abelinc, have you heard of the hygiene hypothesis?'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: '5 second rule for dropping stuff on the floor is LITERALLY true lol'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I remember when I was a kid, we all lined up at the town hall to get hepatitis vaccines jabbed into our backsides because a local supermarket was discovered to have an infected batch of meat'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'vost: I don't know that name specifically, but it might be what I feel is the horrible use of Purell products today, effectively turning us into the native americans immunology-wise'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygiene_hypothesis '
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'kids are indoctrinated in schools to use that stuff like candy nowadays, and they call them "hand washing stations"...they don't wash anything, every icky thing that was on your hands before it is still there afterwards'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'yeah, seems on the same order'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'eating a certain amount of mud pies is good for your growth :-)'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'yeah apparently people dont dry their hands enough after washing. Those airblowers may be better for the environment but not as hygenic if you finish drying hands on your muddy jeans'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'terrible for your hearing, too.'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I don't necessarily agree that those airblowers are better for the environment'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'This is why I'm not 100% confident...County north of mine had 2K new cases yesterday after there were 0 for 2 weeks. It has a giant military base there...You think I can trust that data to make an educated decision when state/federal officials are monkeying with numbers?'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'what i have seen is that they are better for preventing a huge pile of moist paper next to a trash can - the last energy-cost analysis i saw seemed to say that they are actually more environmentally damaging.'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'less for employees to do lol'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'then again, I also consider hybrid vehicles to be what you would end up with if you asked a competent mechanical engineer to take the absolute worst parts of an ICE vehicle and an electrical vehicle and see how bad he could make the product'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'indeed, m.'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'hybrid vehicles should have been built like diesel locomotives'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'holy shit - you might actually be like, sane, abe.'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'https://www.greenschoolsalliance.org/blogs/16/394 '
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'my particular county had a week of zero cases , then spiked to 400 in one day, then 3 of last 5 days were also zero'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'sounds like sampling bias, m.'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'well 71% of everyone knows you can just make a statistic up out of thin area'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'basically, make an electrical car, and stick a tiny generator in the trunk whose only job is to recharge...no need for any transmission much less a transmission with transfer of power from two dissimilar mechanisms'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'buy yeah, no joke - a dedicated gasoline generator, tuned to run at its optimal speed, and completely decoupled from the mechanical drive train would be a much more efficient design.  let the electric motor do all the work.'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'most of the efficiency gains from a hybrid car come from driving it like you want to save gas.'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'apply those same techniques to a small car rocking a small 4-cyl hydrocarbon-only motor? comparable in-town, and better highway numbers :/'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the case counts are likely just where separate entities are reporting to a central aggregate, and they all reported at the same time vs not turning in the paperwork the previous week'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'need to learn  how to drive a stick for maximum benefit, tho.'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'heh, reporting bias.'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'my car's a 5-speed'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec crosses his arms and nods sagely to you.
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'of course I also drive with a lead foot, so I negate all efficiency benefits of the stick and go for maximum performance :-)'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'biases, heuristics, incompetence, etc. that's why i prefer anecdotal evidence from people I can trust'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec grins evilly.
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i just assume that anything anyone tells me, regardless of source or medium, is *for entertainment purposes only*'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'https://ifunny.co/picture/cot5DfGu6'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: '^ that was for entertainment purposes only :-)'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'Hmmm I wouldve said vested self interest. Then again you've been corrupted by some of more epic trollers here over the years I bet :)'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'heh abe. and those are the good ones bc you dont have to press a button after someone peed on their hands accidentally and didnt bother washing their hands '
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'use clean paper towel to activate hand-dryer.  problem solved.'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): You snicker softly.
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'funny story, did you know if you look hard enough, you can find paper towels with stuff printed on them?'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'couldnt i just use the paper towel then?'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'remember: no matter how you slice it, automatic flushing urinals are just robots watching you pee'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec attempts to make SNEAKER Mushambo close his mouth in the interest of peace.
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'if it werent ever so slightly out of my price range, i would have bought a box with an anti-hand blower message...'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'just carry a few in your pocket, use as needed.'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'what?'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'exactly.'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'when they're adjusted nicely, I do like the automatic faucets, soap, and paper towel dispensers though. It is nice not having to touch anything'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'but then you'll get that one sink that thinks you're the invisible man while you wave your hands in front of the eye'
T3/r7/2021-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i have yet to meet an automatic faucet that was more than 1/2 inch from the back of the sink.  end up rubbing all over the back of the sink trying to wet your hands.'
T3/r7/2021-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'how to increase vax participation without heavy-handed methods, part 1: The Brewers Guild of New Jersey has teamed up with the stateâs officials to launch the âShot and a beerâ program.â Any New Jerseyian who gets the first dose in May and takes their card to one of the participating breweries will receive a free beer, courtesy of the breweries, Murphy said.'
T3/r7/2021-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'part 2: As part of its strategy to vaccinate more of its population, Washington State will allow adults to claim a free marijuana joint when they receive a Covid-19 vaccination shot. The stateâs liquor and cannabis board announced on Monday that the promotion, called âJoints for Jabs,â was effective immediately and would run through July 12.'
T3/r7/2021-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what era is this here now?'
T3/r7/2021-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Biff: 'the last?'
T3/r7/2021-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'usually something important happens so we people will call a decade or two by that. whats important nowadays?'
T3/r7/2021-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'cus not much has happened for a while'
T3/r7/2021-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Biff: 'except you know all that science and space travel and the internet'
T3/r7/2021-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'internet is so old and boring'
T3/r7/2021-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'boring like tap water'
T3/r7/2021-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Biff: 'hey it bests getting the bubonic plague'
T3/r7/2021-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'im not into morals.'
T3/r7/2021-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'just that.. what age is this now?'
T3/r7/2021-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'oh... its the age of guilt'
T3/r7/2021-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'thats important today'
T3/r7/2021-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Biff: 'age of innocence?'
T3/r7/2021-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'guilt = currency'
T3/r7/2021-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Biff: 'i think its like the Technological Age or the Scientific Age. basically at the point when we actually know thinks rather than believe in gods'
T3/r7/2021-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) LoUd-JuIcE Yamillay: 'If breasts had spikes on them.. Would they still be a turn-on?'
T3/r7/2021-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'do you think thinking is in 1D, 2D, 3D or maybe  4D?'
T3/r7/2021-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: '4 is higher than 1, so I think the answer is obvious?'
T3/r7/2021-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'linear planar.. whats 3d?'
T3/r7/2021-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'spatial'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'how often you do nothing?'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i tried it yesterday and was succesful'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'for 3 seconds'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Love & Wars: 'its impossible to do nothing. but its very possible to be lazy'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ruckus: 'tell me abou- ah nevermind. I give up'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Ruckus flails his arms about wildly.
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Love & Wars: 'im very good at being lazy'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ruckus: 'I'd challenge you to a lazy-off, but that sounds like way too much work'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Impossible to do nothing? Ha! You've never seen me when it's time to vacuum.'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Love & Wars: 'yea i dont want to taint my lazyness with competition'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Ruckus is mystified by this foreign phrase 'time to vacuum.'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'heh. Nice, Ruck :)'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'how would a judge decide that your laziness is pretended or real?'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Love & Wars: 'a lazy judge wouldnt'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ruckus: 'I think expending effort to 'pretend to be lazy' sort of gives that game away'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ruckus: 'it's a contradiction'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'when you pee sitting down. is this lazy or have you given up?'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'as a man'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ruckus: 'you may be reading a really heavy book?'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'who reads a heavy book'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ruckus: 'really strong librarians?'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'a friend once told me "i sit while i pee".'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'a family man'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'at that time i couldnt understand why this was a thing'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ruckus: 'did you respond, "we should all pee balancing on one foot, as God intended."?'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'pee with fucking dignity!'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ruckus: 'I disagree, I pee with frivolity and wild abandon'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Love & Wars: 'god intended us to be naked and walk while peeing'
T3/r7/2021-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'no. god intended us to aim high'
T3/r7/2021-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Seething with rage, Ruckus exclaims, "WABBIT SEASON!"
T3/r7/2021-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Quiet Nuala: 'DUCK SEASON!'
T3/r7/2021-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Overcome with fury, Ruckus exclaims, "DUCK SEASON!"
T3/r7/2021-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Ruckus . o O ( Elmer Season?? mauahahaha )
T3/r7/2021-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sepulchure: 'unpopular aard opinion: random rarity drops (like EQ that's wonderous, etc) is useless to the average player'