T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what if it turns out that every nth planet has life. would it change anything?'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luc: 'some major religions would probably get abandoned'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I doubt religons would abandoned, but oh my gosh it would change a lot of things'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yeah. im not interested in religion. but the real life'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think the thing we always forget when talking about planets around different suns, is just how long it takes to get there'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luc: 'religion is important historically and there is still a lot of money/power wrapped up in it, so it would make a difference in real life'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'not dissing religions btw.'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luc: 'especially if it could be proven there was sentient life'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luc: 'or known'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'star trek is fun, but shooting around the galazy is a loooooong way from reality right now'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'ok. but would it really change anything? the way we live? i think not at all'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luc: 'I think it would have a longer lasting overall effect that would only be noticeable over time'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well that's kind of what I mean - I think it really would deeply change the way we think, I mean really deeply, but it might not change the way we act so much'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luc: 'there would be hope that there was another habitable planet and there would be more attempts to develop space-related technology, it would kinda steer the direction a little than what would normally develop otherwise'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'maybe we'd develop some big global defense system just in case'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'theres only nukes'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yeah, Luc - it'd probably make us think a lot more hard about habitint other planets ourselves'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'those are nothing against aliens'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'nukes do only mechanical damage '
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'maybe we need religion to do spiritual damage'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luc: 'that's another direction I was thinking, depending on the amount of knowledge and proximity, it could actually cause a sort of unity for humankind since there is 'another' that could be a potential enemy, so potentially it could bring about more peace'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I mean if an alien had the ability to go so far to another planet then yeah, we'd just have to hope they were nice... That's what I meant before - people underestimate just how advanced you'd have to be to go to a different, habited planet, regardless of whether you became aware of it or not'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'one thing will happen for sure. Stellaris gets a 10% boost in steam. and others try to copy'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'even if we detected very primitive signs of other lives on other plantes, then light years etc, they're waaaay beyond us already'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'see. there is this... advancement thing. there are only a few phyzics puzzle pieces missing. so very few'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'not so much'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm not sure that's true - I think it's always seemed like that, but never been the case'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'your "always" is less than 100 years old'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmmm - dunno.. I'd say there' more questions than answers, just like always'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'no one has a clue what quantum physics is, we just use the maths to do useful things'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yeah. not into that. what i mean is... once you can instantly chill every molecule in your body, there is no limits where you can go and explore.'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'fuck time'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well ok you lost me there ;)'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the "report back" would be sadly useless'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i bet in 10 years, there will be a solid way to transport a person in refridgerator'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'and then it will be like "spread the seed!" all over the universe. for people who dont care about dolphins or the Kardashians'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'there will be even a competition who goes first'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'so. if you could go to a new planet. would you sign up?'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'im not crazy. just drunk'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'we won't be able to download our brains and stuff for a loooonnnng time'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) IAC DO Fiendish: 'how far away is the new planet?'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'zubillion inches'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luc: 'depends on who's going, more like how many'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'did you know that there as many neurons in your gut as in a dog's brain?'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'we really don't just think with our brain'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'did you know dogs can talk?'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) IAC DO Fiendish: 'also, we will not be able to unthaw a frozen body alive within 10 years'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) IAC DO Fiendish: 'er, thaw'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'holy word that I won't get flamed for!'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the thing about dogs talking is, humans are idiots and havent figured it out. dogs do talk. all the time. but humans are too stupid'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'actually in all seriously, dogs do talk - just not with human words.. talking isn't just about words, although it seems like it in here *squints curiously* see?'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Pump the Fuel )
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'they CAN freeze people and wake them up in 10 years'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'naah - it's just a scam for getting money out of rich people'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'once it gets real interest, it will happen. '
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'and the interest will grow next year'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's just a hollywood story book thing - it *sort of* makes sense because of frozen peas'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'see. the science gets better not because some gov thinks its cool. but because there is money in it'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'this is a fact'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well yeah, for sure'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'once there is interest, there will be money. and results'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but freezong someone and then thawing them out in the future just has so many holes in it'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'be nice if the us spent hald their defence budget on researching fusion power, but..'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'it only takes about 100bil to figure it out'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'nowadays the oil kingdoms feel safe and spend on bugattis and golden hotels'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'when they see, they could sit on a brand new planet with 100 virgins... omg'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'lol, yeah, with lettuce that costs $100 dollars per smell'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Le do, lo  Shakia: 'it's just a banana, how much could it cost, 10$?'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'and all bananas are the sam'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'literally'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'All bananas are not the same. '
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'But almost all bananas eaten in the west are the same. Cavendish.'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) IAC DO Fiendish: 'named after Lady Cavendish, childhood friend of Queen Elizabeth II, famous for what she was able to do with them.'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'so dirty'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'from interstellar travel to rude bananas in one death'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Holox: 'reminds me of the Princess Diana joke..'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what are penguins good for?'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Le do, lo  Shakia: 'having knees'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Contigo: 'yes'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Hockey, if you listen to people in Pittsburgh.'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) IAC DO Fiendish: 'knees are important for all the marching'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'how can a wingless bird be asuccessful evolutionaire?'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'in fucking south pole'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) IAC DO Fiendish: 'penguins have wings'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) IAC DO Fiendish: 'also penguins don't only live in the south pole. there are also tropical penguins.'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Le do, lo  Shakia: 'and they are very cute but not as fat'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i didnt know that'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zimith: 'i mean oracs have to eat something'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) IAC DO Fiendish: 'https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galapagos_penguin'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'You can see penguins at the cape of good hope in So Africa. Just little guys.'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'penguins are a an insane twist of evolution'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'so illogical'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Le do, lo  Shakia: 'it doesn't have to make sense to you'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'But not as weird as the platypus.'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Le do, lo  Shakia: 'you are talking meat'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'my grandmother watched the animal shows all the time. and her only comment was "why are there so many of those?"'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zimith: 'i mean you don't have a lot to do as a penguin i guess other then sit around and make more penguins'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'eat a sardine and pop out an egg'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Le do, lo  Shakia: 'one species(?) gathers enmasse to find mates for life'
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Father Ya Yamillay: 'Golden Showers from a monkey! Yes?'
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Father Ya Yamillay: 'how cute could they be to you'
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Rand Paul is a pig. That is all. We now return you to your regular mudding.'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what if the word "is" would be erased from every language. what would happen?'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'maybe it would be a better place?'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) NeonTetra: 'my old boss would nto be able to use "isn't it" in every sentence in a wholly non-grammatically correct or sensible way.  example: "I am going the shops, isn't it?" or "you are an idiot, isn't it"'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'old boss or ex boss?'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) NeonTetra: 'Ex boss. He is still running the company and he is now old. Like me.'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what word would you like to erase from people's mids if it was up to you?'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'minds*'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'the n word'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) NeonTetra: 'what Nenukon?'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'oh, I thought this was a serious discussion'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the n-word is a mental exercise'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the word itself makes you think ahead'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'its like a barbell for the brain'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Antifa Raded: 'are you suggesting that really smart people think about saying the N word all the time'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'no'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but there are very few words that make you .... consider if to use it'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'swarm of phrases. but only a few words'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'hm. when you're coding/scripting something. you know what you are doing, you know what you want to do. been doing this for years. but 10 logic mistakes happen before the thing works.'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'now.'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'with language and human babble'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'there is no control'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'nothing like it.'
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Thumb Wars: 'thats debatable'
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Emilee giggles.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'surface temp is 5500C. Webb is 1.3 mil km away. its hottest spot is 56C. it doesnt make any sense'
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'im gonna be looking for alternative science from now on'
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'suns surface temp*'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'do you ever imagine the best version of yourself?'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm sure we all have, but it changes'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'what's you'r, Fuel?'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'so out of grasp'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I generally don't like the idea that you always have to be improving yourself'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yeah'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'should you at least be trying'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Father Ya Yamillay: 'I stopped tryin to imagine that when the quality of ladies went down in some places because I acknowledge that a better version of me will never exist.. Better versions of other people are more likely to exist and populate more... Hahaha'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think it happens naturally if you just follow your nose'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'like a field mouse'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'i dunno i've found most things worth having take a lot of work'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but to always be thinking, I need to be better how do I do it, is counter productive'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'i'd say that also applies to improving yourself'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yeah but you work at them because you want them, not because you think it will make you "better"'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'i dont really understand the distinction'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I suppose "better" is mor something that's defined by other people, culture'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'o isee'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's where self help books and seminars come from'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'its a thing. '
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yeah, I suppose I'm just twisting it - but I suppose I'm saying, as long as it's your version of better than of course.. and yes, I imagine that a lot :)'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Le do, lo  Shakia: 'i think having a deadline at all is detrimental in this case'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Le do, lo  Shakia: 'regarding the distinction'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'so the actual key for getting better is still focus'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I suppose thats the thing with "better" - it never ends'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I do want my family and people around me to think that I'm better because of something I did, but honestly in the end I'm not that fussed'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'd quite like it if I was surrounded by people who were happy with what I already am. That wouldn't stop me from doing things, just there'd be less pressure'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i hate balance'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'It's useful on a bicycle.'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'bicycles should be banned. '
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Any particular reason. Beyond requiring balance, I mean.'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I wonder if putting stabilisers on a bicyle makes it "better"'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'I think not, Cil, since conquering imbalance is one of the joys of bike riding.'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it sounds like a fitting metaphor'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Le do, lo  Shakia: 'it is for many, but not for all :P'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Le do, lo  Shakia: 'adrenaline junkies would disagree i think'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Father Ya Yamillay: 'Mr.Biden's thrivin.. (Debate this).. Is Mr.Biden's thrivin a problem? He even took risks to give some of us some money with the help of his staff and administration..'
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Father Ya Yamillay: 'If not for "Mr.Ron Paul" many of us Americans would have probably never discovered "Riboflavin" so I believe he should continue to question Dr.Fauci.. I don't know about "Dr.Fauci" being the face of science but I know from witnessing that "science" can be very perverted.. So in other words I am saying that "Nobody should wanna be the 'face' of science".. Mr.Ron Paul should when ever he feels necessary should question Dr.Fauci so that more Americans have a chance to know what's going on behind the scenes..'
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Father Ya Yamillay bows deeply.
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what if we pay an "educator" 200.- for spending 1 hour here?'
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'for fun'
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i wonder how much Jordan Peterson would charge to answer questions in this channel for an hour'
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'im thinking at least 2 tps'
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'one time. my workplace. they called some educators.'
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'for 2 hours i was rubbing my eyes to wake up'
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i mean.. not boring. but crazy'
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but were you educated?'
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'no'
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'at one point one of the educators said a very good sentence. but i forgot what it was'
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but that was it'
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well it sounds The Office wasn't so much of a parody after all :)'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'if we make all human drivers illegal, we could switch to ai like tomorrow'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yeah. its not a topic'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'cant think of anything good'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'people think ai is a lot more advanced than it actually is'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'youre a human, right?'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'at some point, someone would try to make ai to play aard'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'actually, playing aard would be one of the most difficult things for ai to do'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'and there is no mechanism to ban such hting'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'hm'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I don't mean mechanically, I mean with the talking and things'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it would basically be a near impossible Turing test'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'there was a chatbot 10 years ago that was insanely human-like'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think they only work because they can direct the conversation a little'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'a schoolmate showed this to me. and sadly, forgot the link'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but I've played with some online and they are a lot of fun'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'mainly for forcing them to stay stupid things'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the classic "Alexa, are you a tiny talking fly trapped in a speaker?"'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i talked to this bot for 30 minutes and i was in awe'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'later tried to find it but all other bots were stupid'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I remember chatting with a bot that was pretending to be paranoid'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Pump the Fuel :})
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it was really good - but like I say it always directed the conversation. But yeah fascinating :)'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'so. a betabot'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'would ruin a turing test'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and it'd just ignore your questions if it didn't understand and say things like "wait what was that? I think I heard something"'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'what's a betabot?'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'betamalebot'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'a yes man'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ahh lol right'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it was good though, it drew you in, so you'd then say things like "what kind of noise"'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and of course it's got a whole series of ways to answer that'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'heh'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'testing'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'this was OFF by default XD'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'let's debate'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajirobe Roninleader: 'Proposition: Jolo is a stupid name. Yay or Nay?'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'a stupid name for what?'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'actually i use it on another mud'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'as a fact, i am trying the game for the third time, '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'so yeah this is not my third char, just atempting to give it a grasp and play it and so on'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'let's debate, who is best, donald trump or joe biden'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Can't De Cide: 'yes.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'None of the above?'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'i am not frmo the US, so, i just thought i would like to hear tome opinions'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I can't see how anyone can't be worse than Donald Trump'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'best at what?'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I meant *could be worse*'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajirobe Roninleader: 'I prefer Joe Rogan and Donald Duck myself.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'who loves trump?'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'Trump...'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'xcp'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'all others are inconsequential'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajirobe Roninleader: 'BOT!'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'dammit'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'whats ur criteria for best?'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajirobe Roninleader: 'Trump has better American based scandals, whereas Biden has better overseas scandals. It's so tough to choose a favorite!'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'but rumors that obama was a bad president'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'er, president'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'Trump was an utter joke and a rabble rouser'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'an emgomaniac dolt'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Aeisir: 'a crook'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajirobe Roninleader: 'He wore a tan suit once, that was incredulous.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajirobe Roninleader: 'Sorry, that was about Obama'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'people judge presidents by all kinds of standards, our opinions on presidents is just how we feel. In the end I would say Trump just presented a bad standard and broke the mold. Biden looks and feels like every president before obama. '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'a bad standard? blatantly enjoying being part of the elite and pretending to support the less well off? siding with racists and facists? he was en empty showman tking advantage of hard-off Americans without actually doing anything to help them'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'covid 19 is better for you or colira'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'ya i think those things broke the mold of what we expect from presidents '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'pot'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'not anything to the extent than Trump did'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'im saying trump broke the standards he went beyond what we expected from a president'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajirobe Roninleader: 'You have to admit, he had the best racists though. Phenomenal. Superb racists.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'he got you lot actively invading the capital building on a multi million dollar campaign base on the lie that the election was rigged, funded by people who need the money themselves, and then he pocketed the money for himself'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'yeah, he was the Mayor Marion Barry of presidents :-p'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'sorry :) just, he winds me up a lot.. that was funny though Ronin :)'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'to think he was elected by almost/about half of america ...'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'popularism is a powerful thing when a lot of people are pissed off'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'Trump is a criminal who has only avoided prison because of his mob-boss tactics.  He's a thief, a cheat, a liar, a sexual predator, and an idiot.  Not necessarily in that order...'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i dont know why people are always pissed... '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajirobe Roninleader: 'In a battle royale, Cornpop I bet could single handedly take on all the racists!'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'not pissed about it... it is what it is.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'present company excluded'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'because tv is filled with people flaunting wealth while they work ten times as hard and get little to nothing for it'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'a better debate topic: The two-party system in the United States is increasingly failing the American population.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i dont think "they" nor the people will change that'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajirobe Roninleader: 'Yes, I agree with that, Xyzzy.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I suspect it is - speaking from the UK it's definitely not great here either'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'every four years we get to choose between the lesser of two evils.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'how it is increasingly failing the american population?'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'and because there are only two viable parties, they are increasingly moving towards the fringe of each party'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajirobe Roninleader: 'I honestly kind of like the idea of a random citizen being chosen president every 4 years. The chaos would be amazing.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'polarisation leads to entrenchment, and then it just becomes a fight not a debate'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'increasingly failing because the candidates are ever-moving towards the fringes.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'there is no middle-ground any longer.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'identity politics doesnt help that either'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Biden is a middleg-grounder. Which is probably why neither side like him.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I think 2 party systems are the main reason for identity politics'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'think of it as a football game... either American or not...  If you're a fan, everything your team does is fine... everything everyone else does is cheating... that's what politics is becoming in the US'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SonnyQuinn: 'its not democracy that is failing america...its the politicians are allowed to lie in campaign debates and once elected it is almost impossible to get them out and this generation could care less'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean professional politics is naturally going to attract people who lie and connive to get power - it's only natural'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'middle, not middleg :P'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'there should be no such thing as "professional politics"'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garbanzo: 'how about just starting with punishing the rich as harshly as the poor '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i think of it like this: people want to live and have their lives stay the same or improve, politicians want to have power/make money and/or fame and the times dictate their behavior and acceptable methods. Their goals are different that ours and thats why it's dangerous for them to be representing us to begin with'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Cil, it also naturally attracts honest people who care'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but how else could it be done.. just like professional banking is always going to attract people who prioritise their own money'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garbanzo: 'and ethics rules and norms set in stone with teeth to bring politicians back to being public servants '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I agree Rhav, but unfortunately I suspect most of them get chewed up by the rest'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i dont think evolution, be it good or bad in our opinion, can go backwards'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'we cant have our old standards back'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'never trust a person who can change the rules to fit their needs...'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'arbanzo, I'd rather like to see 99% taxes for poor and minimum/no for rich... :) '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'punish the poor!'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'in England, 80% of the top politicians all come from the same elite and very expensive school - they all knew each other and each other's families'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Evolution doesn't go forward, either. It just goes.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'no it goes forward :P'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'evolution is change based around survival'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'survival is good'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'We'll agree to disagree, Hellion'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'though we think that polticians being accountable and beholden to the people is good (and it is) the change the politics has made is also good because it is that which made America so powerful and so volatile. Reigning in the "Tyson" of the world is gonna be tough'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I think no one can disagree that the world as a whole is a better place than it was 100, 200, etc, years ago'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: '100% '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methyl: 'Ideologues don't really function well in political positions. Pragmatists always need something to either enrich themselves or bring something back to their constituency. Lot of rules made over the years to push the pragmatists over to the ideologue side of the house.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and I'd say the main reason is because of the general trend of having more and more people have a say in how things are done'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methyl: 'No incentive to do their job, no job will ever be done. Just barking and making a bunch of noise.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'questionable Cil... especially on Holocaust memorial day...'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'i am glad that in egypt we don't have that drauma which is in the US'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I'm talking about over centuries - go back to the feudal days of kings and queens'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'people say we are ruled by military, despite that this is not true, our rulers wer only former members no more'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'hello its the muslim brotherhood calling'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methyl: 'Here in the states we've seemed to move most of our legislative power on to the judicial and executive branch. Dumb.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'overall, progress has been made by the slow sharing of power'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'The world is a better place in some ways, no doubt. On the other hand, the Siberian permafrost is melting.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'muslim  áÇÞÎÝÇËÞÇÎÎíÓ åÓ Ô ÝËÞÎÞåÓÝ ÎÞá'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'ouch, muslim brotherhood is a terorist org'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'true, but at least I'm allowed to vote and have an education rather than scrabble for coins in some victorian slum'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'or get raped by a local lord while he's on his tax collection run'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'oh also sorry i shouldnt have said anything cause i only know what i have heard and dont know from a citizen of egypt's point of view'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'what did our media get wrong ... or what did we get right about our coverage on Egypt'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'well, i am 1, so listen up'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Hellion is ready to take notes
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: '1 - muslim brother hood ruled egypt only 1 (one) year, and then they were driven out because of their bad actions which were disliked, and they will never come back because of their terorist acts on the  army'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: '2 - our ruler is not as many people say about him, without this leader, egypt will not be where it is today'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Hellion wonders how many numbers are there going to be 
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'want more?'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i dont want as much as I dont know what to expect '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'my follow up question was "what do the other people in the country feel? The ones that are not in your type of thinking" since im sure 90% dont think the same way but more around 4:60 or 51:49 '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'what would someone from egypt, who disagrees with you, would say?'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'not true, you might be able to say this back in , 2013, but not now'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'these people's actions used the name of islam to achieve hteir goals by saying that whoever does not follow their extreme thinking is not a muslim'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'and then they used islam to say we should blow anything up, ending up blowing churches'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'they killed hundreds, thousands of christians'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'want more?'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i think most people are against wahabis and wahabi-ism, but its scary to see that the ones who do support them are not a tiny minority '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'they attempted to convince people that muslims should not talk with christians'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'fundamentalist thinking is pretty much always bad - it's an extreme version of the polarisation = everything's a fight thing'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'i tell you that the muslim brotherhood were responsible of blowing up a bunch of mosques aroudn egypt'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'two days ago: https://twitter.com/amanpour/status/1486046350206816256'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'sounds like great leadership. sign me up. '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'imo Saudis are the root of problems in the mid east region and America is the Saudi protector. So for the world I think Trump was the comic relief but in general every president has been poop for them (and I would agree)'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'america had its role in training these forces in the past and creating them, which resulted in what we see in afghanistan, iraq, syria and in other places'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'they thought htey could do occupation to mayn coutnries using these ways, but america ended  being exploded  by these forces later'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'they thought they could do occupation to many countries using these ways, but america ended  being exploded  by these forces later'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'unkgirl, ty for that link enlightening'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2022/01/25/US-State-Department-approves-25-billion-arms-sales-Egypt/7761643155144/'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: '@punkgirl*'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'maybe don't complain about America's role and continue to buy our guns. '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'i know what you want to say, you want to talk about the human rights, this is not true, these were things which the muslim brother hood said to ruin the reputation of the army'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'now im more curious about what you have to say to the links punkgirl posted since these are recent/current'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'all large countries sell arms'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's one of the many blatant hypocrasies'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'you want a comment, let's go'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'looks like a great country just by recent photos: Not oppressed at all: https://twitter.com/mrwanmhmwdsyd1/status/1486119205636386820/photo/1'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'let me take thing by thing'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'take your time we are all CPing/Pupping so reading is a welcome distraction :P'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'what i said regarding the US training to the muslim brother hood forces, these were old events in the 90s and at that time to achieve some goals which,  again , had side effects on the country its self'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'it ended with explosions in the US and in europe and other places, sure it effected the  current state of  the middle east because of the current events, egypt is the only one who was rescued frmo such events which were called the arab spring'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'human rights are continued to improve in egypt year by year and including services which are being added to prisons yearly,  but hey, no country is perfect, you in the US have the black people  issue and being unfair at some points, so, look into this first'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'but as a fact, most of the accusations regarding human rights are somewhat much than the truth'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'i am blind so i don't know what is in this imedge sent earlier'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'imedge'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'and that is all what i have to say'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'is it playing? reading outloud what we are typing? '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: '1 last thing, many countries who were affected by terorist acts now know that we were right when we talked about it and that they know that they failed to respond'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'yeah it reads what you send, i get the links copy paste in my browser and read them, the last link was an imedge'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'and many coutnries now help us to fight coutnries  which supports terorism'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'and many countries now help us to fight countries  which support terorism'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'now i think i answered everything'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'unless i forgot something'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'just to clarify, you are saying more than 60% of the country agrees with your sentiments now? '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'sure, other wize our current president would not have gotten more than 85 percent of the  votes  in the elections a few years back, many people knew where is the light and where is the darkness, some still follow the path of the darkness which is supported by some countries which devoted some channels'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'to me, personally it is so hard to comprehend 85% supporting one over another, usually the two choices have a closer split in support otherwise why even run against the 85% person'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'i can confirm he got his support from just 10 representatives in the house of representatives in egypt, he does not have support from the people'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'let's debate, shall i wait for a quest or explore around'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'both at the same time!'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'how that'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well, explore around, and you'll be simulatenously passing the time until your quest'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'so what to explore hmm'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'just saying, not trying to be too heavy, but is there anyone from Ukraine here?'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hey America can you please maybe just stomp on Russia please? (don't mean it literally, do mean it, don't mean it)'
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'let's debate, american acccent or british accent, american for the win'
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Iron Duck Chuft aims the crosshairs..Jolo collapses in a pool of blood.
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: '*chuckle*'
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Jolo chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'i see that the british accent is hard to pronoucne'
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'er, pronounce'
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'let's debate, studying in the night or in the afternoon'
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yunalesca: 'I usually study in the afternoon'
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'some prefer the dark nights, '
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SonnyQuinn: 'well depends if you have kids or not...if you do then night if not afternoon'
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'kids are funny to study around'
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SonnyQuinn: 'well my little girl wont let me focus on anything but her so not to much will be studied'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'if a fruit falls off the tree, is it dead?'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'when is fruit considered "dead"?'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'how far did the apple fall from the tree?'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nifto: 'first you must define life'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'anything that consumes and excretes, and has some amount of agency?'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the definition of "life" wold have hard time with the fruit problem'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think maybe the strawberry plant is alive, but the fruit itelf isn't, directly. So once it's not part of the plant anymore, it's not alive'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but the seeds are alive.. or not?'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'no I don't think the seeds are alive, at all'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'lol'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I know what you mean though - stick one in some soil and water it, and all of a sudden the seed starts to consume, and creates a living strawberry plant'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'let's debate, cats or dogs'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'in your personal preference'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'go with creativity'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'in that case - cats, since they make the better mops'