T3/r7/2022-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Throbbing Redwood Tech: is there a way to add weight and item limit to the stat miniwindow that comes with aardmush?
T3/r7/2022-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: how do i completely remove the ascii map from being seen?
T3/r7/2022-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: help automap
T3/r7/2022-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2022-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: i reckon that should show up in help ascii or help asciimap or something
T3/r7/2022-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: why might i need to type enter twice to get any commands to work?
T3/r7/2022-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: Does anything happen the first time you hit enter?
T3/r7/2022-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: no
T3/r7/2022-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2022-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: anyone use bast's spellup plugin?
T3/r7/2022-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I used to, but it kept crashing.  I switched to WinkleWinkles
T3/r7/2022-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it's working fine so far but im not sure if theres a way to tell it haste can be cast during combat
T3/r7/2022-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: whats the command to change the SnD target for a quest/mob, it wont respond to the proper name so i need to edit it
T3/r7/2022-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: xset kw
T3/r7/2022-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: to change the keyword of a mob
T3/r7/2022-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: ty :D
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: who wants to install and beta test my graphical mapper? takes like 1 minute flat or less to install. pst NOW!
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: let me try
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: how download ur plugin,khadaji
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RabbitSlayer Tech: I've got a stacked alias that puts me at recall,runto *location*,showmap.  Why does showmap show up as soon as I run the alias instead of after the runto?
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Joyful) Juliet Tech: how do you change the color of channels
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: help colorset
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Joyful) Juliet Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: anyone know how to load a backup of mapper? I've completely broken mine somehow and lost my mapper data. mushclient
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: From Mapper help utils: Create new archived backup of your map database in a db_backups directory, preserving a few prior backups
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: you'll need to look in the db_backups dir.
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: that's to create a new backup. I'm trying to load the backup
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: yeah I found the files I just don't know how to tell mushclient to use them
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: so find the old backup and place it where your current db sits.
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: think I may have found it.. will report back soon I hope lol
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: figured it out, thank you. I was looking in the wrong folder for the aard db file, it's in the main mushclient folder by default for future reference
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite enthusiastically high-fives Markourn!
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: my wiki has instructions
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: for recovering mapper database backups
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCP-driven-world-mapper#restoring-from-a-database-backup-after-corruption
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: is it possible to change the location of the mapper database? like if i wanted to keep it on a network drive instead of the local machine?
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: no but you could put your entire mushclient folder on the network drive
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: that will likely work better if you upgrade to the latest snapshot first
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: my concern with having the entire installation on the network is that my computers have different resolutions
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushlient questions answered here
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: how about a tip of the day? like im trying to efficiently cexit mob kills with wait(*) and i cant help but feel triggers in conjunction would be better
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: MUSHCLIENT TIP OF THE DAY: M
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: M stands for what?
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: stands for?
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: mapper
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: no, it's one of the tips of MUSHclient
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: who knows, maybe tomorrow I'll choose t
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Contigo Tech: good tip, subscribed
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Evl sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite grins evilly.
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: wait
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: wait
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: back up
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you're trying to cexit mob kills?
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: for keys
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: ooh, don't want to do that
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: like kill key keeper wait 8 seconds etc its annoying but if i trigger 
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: stacking mob kills is afaik against the rules
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: how do i turn off this background pattern/color in mapper map, descent to hell makes it hard to see un explored red rooms
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: nvm got it, left click star in top left corner and click area textures to off
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: you can also replace the background textures to what ever you want in worlds/plugins/images do need to keep the names same
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: ty :D
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: anyone have a trigger that plays a sound, or alerts you, if a gquest is announced for your level?
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: you can make your own
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: i made my own trigger for that
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: Global Quest: See 'Help Global Quests', or, type 'Gquest Join *' to take part.
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: use this line
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yeah i realize i could make my own. its the level range that is tricky
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: i gave you the solution, use use the line i shared
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: just* use
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: it will only trigger for gqs in range
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: does that line only display if the gquest is joinable?
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: ^ yes
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: cool ty, that makes it easy
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: do you see a list of events (and their corresponding volumes) if you type spset?
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i looked there, but the event for gquest makes me think it plays a sound for every gquest, not just the ones u can join
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: you only get the alert for the ones you can join
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: you only see gq join line if you qualify to join
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: yeah which is why i gave him the trigger for joining gq 
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: otherwise you only see completion reports
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: "help gquest rules" suggests that a trigger to join is illegal?
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: you trigger an alert or sound letting you know eligible gq is ready is legal
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: trigger to join is not
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: anyone around that knows what exactly was changed with GMCP handler (long-time ago update), it's breaking one of my plugins, which works with older gmcp handler version, but not with newer
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Khannon: SendGMCP was what changed.
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: can domain whois db be queried in a way to find domains matching another's registration? i.e., find related "hidden" domains
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you used to pretty easily look up by registrant "handle", but it's standard practice at most registrars to use private settings, so the contact info in the record will be a forwarder, and the forwarders will be different for the separate holdings so you can't look for groupings
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Actually - Fiendish - what is the best way to go about updating MUSH?
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: I'm scared :-p
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: run my installer and point it at your mushclient folder
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: if you're scared, make a backup first
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Fair enough.  And I assume all my layout and miniwindows and such should carry over?
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the installer will not replace your world or state files
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: or your map database or your logs
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: or your global preferences
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Okay, fair.  I'll give her a go tomorrow probably.
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: why not do it today and save yourself the stress
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: just quit mushclient first
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It literally takes a minute to update, and don't have to do anything other than run the installer.
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Yeah, I get that....nosave items I don't wanna lose quite yet :-p
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you can quit the client without logging out. just do it quickly.
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The only thing that MIGHT break is if a plugin is reliant upon some outdated code, but those are usually quick fixes.
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Just DC Kelaire.
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Don't quit
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You have, what, 30 minutes of linkdead time before you're forced to quit? Or is it 15?
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: 22 
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Oh come on, can't I come up with more excuses to not do it?
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you do what you want
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'm here right now though
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: it will break all ur bots!
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Yes, my bots, they will break.  That's it!
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Build better bots, then.
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: thanks Fiendish.  I'll give it a go once this double is over.
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: whats the show version command
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Ohmygosh, my mush is all funky now.  It's all upside down!!!
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: if your version is anything above r1898, ancient stuff shouldn't break
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: checkversion will show your package version. package update check will check for updates
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: (I kid).  It's perfectly fine. Went from r2017 to r2190.
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Updating from r1870 to r2060 was rough, so much broke, but r2060-2178 was mostly smooth
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Your Aardwolf MUSHclient package version r2190 appears to be up-to-date.
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Okay, nothing broke...yet.  One thing I noticed....the main window how has a scrollbar on the right side...I don't recall that being there before...can I hide that?
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it replaces the scrollbar that was way off to the side. you didn't lose any space. in fact you gained some.
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Ah, question still remains, can I hide it?  I mean, I can cover it up with miniwindows, not a big deal.  
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: I just know its there and it bugs me :-p
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you can always cover it with miniwindows if you don't like seeing it
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: did you have the other one hidden?
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: no it was the far right of the screen, taking up the full right side...which doesn't bother my OCD self.  
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ok, well, this one will always be behind your plugin miniwindows, so you can just cover it
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Why did that scrollbar get moved, out of curiousity?
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: because people get confused by it being way off to the side detached from the output area, and because I could
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: #unexpectedflex
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it's no good inventing a miniwindow scrollbar from scratch and then not using it
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: My spidey senses went off... someone get unexpectedly flexed on?
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite r h3lla lucky d00d cuz dat buffx0r l33t Amarufox r flex0r to him.
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: I mean, I can see that that would be confusing....if you weren't use to it :-p  I'll accept the move, it's no different than the commlog having the scroll bar.  I'll allow it and stop griping haha
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I get you Kelaire I hated the change too =\
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: I don't hate it, not at all
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: I was just trying to see if I could hide it, but if I can't it can stay behind my other miniwindows
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I made sure to drop it as far back as possible so that it would always be under other miniwindows so that you could cover it up
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I got used to it tho, works better on my bigger monitor.
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I mean, the code is there to show the exterior scroll bar, too... so in all honesty, should toggle between interior and exterior. :P
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: It could just be a 'hate change thing' cause now I'm not sure I'd like going back to how it was.. lol
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: right-click the main output resizer for a secret toggle for the exterior one. Unfortunately toggling back requires either a hotspot or a new command, so I didn't make it hide the attached one
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Could keep the resizer there and just change the scroll bar to a black strip, I imagine.
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: could, but then you risk text going under it
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient can't wrap different lines at different widths
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: and if I'm going to make text wrap conservatively at the left side of the resizer, I may as well use the space for the scrollbar
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what spellup plugins do people use?
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: I just started using ww the other day it seems ok so far
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: where did you get it from?
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: WinkleWinkles best out there (at least known)
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: pwar
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: A modified version of winkles
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: using winklewinkle's oldie myself, I hear pwar's is better (updated version of winkles was what I heard)
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: i just macro f2 to spellup and press it after every fight :)
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purriffic Growltiger Tech: WW
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: please give a link?
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: amaru uses his old winkle?
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm going to wind up writing my own spellup plugin and putting it out for public use.
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purriffic Growltiger Tech: pwar's version of winkle
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: Umm, I just have my client cast the spellup command every 2 minutes. :D
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: we need one that handles cooldowns
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: and gaias focus  :)
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: https://github.com/hudmond/ppm/raw/master/Pwars_Plugin_Manager_v1.33.zip it's a plugin manager, one of the plugins is his spellup can prob get a direct ithub link to it from there
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: what's the umm use case for a spellup plugin?
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: can't you just do "spellup"?
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i use bast's. it has a window that shows spells and recoveries
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: autocasting after spells wearoff after each round, I do spellup manually when playing on phone but prefer plugin w/ mush
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doge Water Yajan sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: maybe I don't know what I'm missing
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: plugin could leverage built-in spellup command which is awesome also
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Winkles does leverage the spellup command.
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: I wrote an "ordered" spellup script for myself
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: to prioritize the order in which they're cast.. but I think that wouldn't work well in concert with one that tries to keep your spells always up
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: could do a smarter spellup like that, I imagine
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: maybe use that for when you a fresh, maxed spellup and then just wing it with autospellup most of the time
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so is this pwar's spellup? https://github.com/hudmond/ppm/raw/master/misc/su-latest.zip
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/downloads/detail?name=WinkleWinkle_Spellup_2.xml
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: That is winkle's original spellup plugin
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: is pwar's better?
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: I think pwar just added support for a couple spells whose flags changed but still handled like cooldowns
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: what heracles said, that's what I heard too
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Original one doesn't exactly know when combat ends, sometimes(often) it just tries to spellup mid combat
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: anyone familiar with saving mushclient on dropbox?
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I've got it one onedrive
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: does it work with onedrive?
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Perfectly, as long as I don't have it running on two pc's at the same time
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: i kept getting a message that it can't do some save state thing
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: I tried on both drop and onedrive, got errors :(
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I aint got that problem :(
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I frequently switch pc's and everything has been working fine
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: That usually happens when a plugin state file did not sync.  
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: If you figure out which one and restore a previous version you should be ok.  You may have to delete it though and let the plugin generate a new one worst case
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: it only happens when i play it of dropbox though
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: fiendish actually said he's implementing some sort of new stuff to fix this issue btw
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: i recommend you note him
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: yeah, he did. and he asked me to download something which i did. :p
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'm on 5.07 pre and it works
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: On onedrive that is, playing directly from onedrive through windows explorer
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: the newest version of the graphical mapper is out now, get your beta testing on: https://github.com/AsmodeusBrooding/Aardwolf/tree/main/GraphicalMapper
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: EZ to install and amazing to use
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: no I didn't
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: my recent changes will probably help dropbox/onedrive users somewhat, but I'm not sure that anything can fix file sync problems
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: pls how to remove it? https://pastenow.ru/FJREH
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Remove... what?
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: third line
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: tags spellups off, I think. Look in 'tags'
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: nope
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, that's invmon. If you are using DINV, it's required. If you aren't, invmon will turn it off.
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: what is DINV?
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: finger durel, it's an inventory/equipment set manager
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: you can set stat priorities etc. 
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i've never seen that particular thing pop up so if it's required for dinv, it hides it from me
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Anssett.
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: dinv priority edit warrior
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: whaddya know.
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: DINV You just disabled invmon!
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: DINV The dinv plugin requires invmon.  Please type "invmon" to enable it again.
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: i dont use dinv
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: then you should be able to type "invmon" and turn it off. beyond that, i don't know what plugin it is packaged in so it'll be hard to tell you waht to delete
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: disabled all plugins but didn't help
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: ... You aren't listening.
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: We didn't tell you to disable plugins.
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: We told you to type 'invmon' to turn it off.
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: https://pastenow.ru/FJRL2
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Gashik - type "invmon"
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: That's it.  Just that.
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: invmon dont work too
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: i tried invmon before writing here
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What does it say when you type 'invmon'?
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: nothing
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: try \\\Send("invmon")
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: \\\SendRaw("invmon") is what you want, Tinypotato.
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or Sendraw, rather.
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Wait, nope. That didn't work. wtf.
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: nope
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: type alias and see if you have a mudside alias for invmon
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: alias invmon would tell you
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: What version of mush are you using Gashik?
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: That alias is not defined.
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: 4.96
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you need to go to scripts shift-ctrl-6 and set the prefix. it's empty by default.. add \\\ there and it works
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: https://pastenow.ru/FJRO0
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: dindt work
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: I suggest downloading a fresh new mush client install and transfer stuff over.
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: try Send, not SendRaw
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: otherwise i'm out of ideas..try logging in with telnet maybe and see if invmon works there
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: thanks for the advice with another client, entered through the zmud and turned off
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: does invmon command work for you now?
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: no, invmon off
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: meaning the command itself. does it turn on or off?
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you should get "You will no longer see inventory update tags." by using it
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: not through my client
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: try using "(addspace here) invmon
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if your invmon (which is game command) doesnt work and you turned off all your plugins, then you have alias or trigger fubering it. try searching from them (just use find button in corresponding places and use "invmon" as keyword for search)
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: How can a trigger stop a keyed in command though?
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: is there any way to adjust the mapper to not necessarily go the shortest route, as it would cross agro mobs or locked doors?
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yes, you can level lock exits
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: yeah, kinda a hack fix, but i guess it works..
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: for some other places you can just make a cexit, remember cexit as far as mapper is concerned is always shortest route, even if it runs through 20 extra rooms
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: you can route mapper around the agro waitress in masquerade that way for instance
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: yeah, its the prosper island area close the witch entrance - so would have to make a cexit from the hotel to close to that door
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: just gotta try and see what works best
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: the latest version of the graphical mapper is now out for testing: https://github.com/AsmodeusBrooding/Aardwolf/tree/main/GraphicalMapper
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: have fun and message me if you have any questions, comments, concerns, or ideas
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: latest update includes useful features for PKers
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: "Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error." random bug happened while i was taking things out of bag :shrug:
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: just makes a redd line on all eq gets gives, but i restarted last time it happened and it fixed so...
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Might be related to dinv. Type 'dinv reload'
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Assuming you have DINV.
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If not, then some other plugin is creating the problem.
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: ty
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: does portal priority have to have ~ in front of it?  What does that indicate?
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: I want to make up something.. but I have no idea what you're talking about
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: is this dinv portal stuff?
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: dinv priority stuff
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: do you have the portal wish?
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: so you set a point value for portal or?
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: yes
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: the ~ in front of a priority value will disable it.
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: not following why you would want to do that
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: so you'll never use portals for that priority, i think. not sure how that works with the portal wish... i don't have that option set on any of my priorities. dinv detects that i have the wish and will fill that eq slot accordingly
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: ~portal  10.00  : Set to 1 to disable the portal location
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: says 1 to disable
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: just wondering why the ~ tho
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: guessing ~ works for any slot
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: it's just a special character for that purpose
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: but again, I'm just guessing
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I tried to edit out the ~ and it says 'portal' wasn't a valid slot name, so added it back
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: really not sure. but that "~portal 1 1 1 1" line in a priority will tell it to ignore the slot. ie "~second 1 1 1 1 1" will tell it to ignore dual wielding. i'm not sure why that line would be needed, AT ALL, with the portal wish
T3/r7/2022-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: if you delete the line entirely, it should still wear the "best" portal in the unique portal slot, by default
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: Anyone got a VPN referral code they want to share so you get a discount?
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I wish mine had referral codes! But I do like VPN Unlimited. Got a lifetime sub on it, haven't been displeased yet.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Currently, they have a discount. Lifetime for $99 for 5 devices.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i read "$99 for 5 years" - that's a pitiful lifetime..
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i can think of a few dozen youtubers i watch who have referral codes mushambo, if you have any favorites maybe see if they do? :D
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I had one that was heavily discounted once, was "Lifetime" at $25. Then I go to my account, and it said, "Expires in 2022". I contacted the rep and they said, "Oh, it is lifetime. You just have to renew it every 3 years. Just contact us and we'll renew it at no cost, probably."
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: yeah I usually wonder if the companies will be around that long
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: probably lol
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: what an answer
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i hate salespeople sometimes
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In all honesty, "lifetime" simply means for the life of the company, for sure. Just like lifetime brakes are for the lifetime of your vehicle, whether it lasts 2 weeks or 20 years.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Anssett.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: and supporting paperwork documentation provided
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: yeah but marketing also chose to use a word that has the implication/hope of a loooong term thing
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anssett nods at SNEAKER Mushambo.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Precisely.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: tangentially related, i had an end user talking to me yesterday, their ISP did some foolery that started to block outbound VPN traffic, and he was computer savvy enough to know that isn't right. called the company up and they started trying to sell him their VPN 
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: he basically told the ISP where they could go and how they could get there, and if they didn't like it, he would just buy an unlimited hotspot from verizon
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: "if i trusted you to not snoop on my traffic i wouldn't be using a vpn"
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Throbbing Redwood Tech: just mud on an air-gapped computer!
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: "I have embarassing personal preferences"
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Throbbing Redwood nods quietly to himself.  What a wacko.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: sheep?
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: why not, more specific the more uncomofrtable for the rep
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I read an article yesterday where the writer was positing that people don't really need VPNs anymore
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i was very, very proud of that end user. most of my callers aren't savvy enough to know what a vpn is
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: True story -- my previous ISP used to monitor my traffic on aard and I'd see ads for the things people talked about on channels here.  That was scary :p
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: isn't a vpn how abelinc's imaginary friends play aardwolf?
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I thought _we_ were Abelinc's imaginary friends.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: well, in all my years of going through "the swedes" these are the first no-no letters i've ever gotten (well didn't get, isp had wrong email, they just disconnected my service)
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: even mudders have a hierarchy, erikson!
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: durel, you're making me glad i have adblock running constantly so i can pretend that's not happening to me haha
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Heh, the worst part is that I finally figured out what was happening when someone "typo'ed" my name as "durex" and we had a few laughs about it...
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: oh god haha
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: Mushambo: maybe something for the ideas board - sponsored links for things like that to toss some benefits back to aard :D
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: EXPRESSVPN DOT COM SLASH AARD etc. i probably just gave lasher acid reflux with that thought though
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: do not worry about logging on the wrong account with the wrong VPN! expressVPN will automatically select the correct server for each character!
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Protonmail is another VPN service (as well as encrypted email) that I have come to trust so far. I just don't use their VPN since I already have one, and when I signed up before, their VPN wasn't available.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: i am using exitlag for WoW lol
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimith Tech: the one thing I'll mention is anything that is a free vPN service, they are selling your data, its safe to assume your the product in that case
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Based in Switzerland, which has strict privacy laws. Open source, anonymous email gateways, encrptyed end-to-end...
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not necessarily.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i mean that's kind of the rule of thumb for any service, but their local laws will apply and may control what's saleable
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In plenty of cases, probably. But for example, Protonmail's basic services are free, including their basic VPN.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And I've never had any issues nor concerns from them.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimith Tech: maybe im paranoid, but just because a law says something shoudn't be happening.... dosnt' mean it dosn't
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: no, but if a law doesn't say it shouldn't happen then it definitely does :D
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i think i got my negatives lined up correctly there
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Never got an email from anything related in my emails, and when I used their VPNs, had no incidents.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i'm more inclined to trust an EU-based free privacy type service than a lot of others bc of their consumer protection laws, but the bigger problem i have with free VPNs is that i've never encountered a fast one
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: (having never looked at protonmail's, so i'll give them a pass :P )
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: They're given a 4.5 out of 5 rating on PC Mag.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: All others in regard to best VPN services for 2022 are 4.0, so...
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nods, if bothering with VPN in the first place, good to assess your own privacy needs and weigh risks/benefits/costs with any provider, sometimes we don't learn about VPN provider issues until much later (esp. privacy violations which users wouldn't be aware of, etc.)
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Here's PCMag's review of Protonmail. I seriously encourage anyone to sign up with PM as their primary email service. https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/protonvpn
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: I like generally understanding their business model also :)  Money tends to be a strong motivator
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: what about personal reputation? I'm almost inclined ot go with Njalla because...well they're actually trustworthy in my book. Hmmm
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: if it best fits what you're looking for in a VPN service, sure...if I personally knew or seriously trusted a particular provider, that would add weight for me
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Amarufox.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just as a side note, I never recommend something I do not trust myself, not when it comes to data security and privacy. I DID just upgrade to a two year plan for $165 with PM mail. *shifty*
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And last bit about Protonmail: "The company's transparency report indicates ProtonVPN received a valid request for information in January 2019, but it did not have any information to provide." -- Hard to have information if you do not log anything. They did use to log timestamps of logins, but they stopped doing that.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: anyway, back to work now, yay. :p
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimith Tech: didn't they get in hot water laster year for accidnetly outing information for a french climent activist?
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: presumably p2p traffic still has a unique footprint recognizable by ISPs right? so they know i use a VPN for p2p, just can't link it to any actual content?
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: (caveat: it's been a while since i've looked into this) i believe that the most an ISP can do with encrypted traffic is tell what port it's connecting on
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: with a vpn they don't even know the endpoint for the traffic because that doesn't get exposed until it exits the VPN tunnel. i think.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: can figure out some interesting things VPN traffic, esp. if able to monitor from a few middlepoints
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: e.g. traffic volume
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: so...would someone need tor+vpn level service? always with the add-ons!
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: could mix them for more privacy, nods, or tunnel-in-tunnel
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: Mushambo: probably depends on how much effort your ISP and/or whoever is monitoring the recreational activities are willing to put in
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: browser and DNS security become a concern too if you're getting far into things
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: I don't think ISPs care one way or another, just need plausible deniability. 
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: umm, what's ncurses and why would someone deign to work on their own MUD using it with telnet? I evne told the person about aardwolf and said he was aware of it 
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i think curses/ncurses is a library for a text-based gui
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: so like ascii art mud? 
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Zimith: The "accident" you mention was not accidental in nature. The French police/Europol requested information from Protonmail, which they denied. But in the occurence of a crime, if they receive notice from Swiss authorities (since they are based in Switzerland), they MUST comply, though in circumstances they can delay compliance and notify the user of a request for their data so they have the opportunity to object.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sorry, was in conference with boss regarding making me an admin at work.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: oh grats crowley!
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: "The company says it complies with lawful requests for user data but it also says it contests orders where it does not believe them to be lawful. And its reporting shows an increase in contested orders  with ProtonMail contesting three orders back in 2017 but in 2020 it pushed back against 750 of the data requests it received." -- So, they heavily contest orders as-is.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And thanks. :)
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But in short, Protonmail is NOT required to store communications metadata or IP addresses, but upon Swiss Police request, they are obliged to provide any user information readily available, and in extreme criminal cases, they may be obligated to monitor the IP addresses of users engaged in criminal activity. Meaning, though they don't on the norm, they can flip a toggle and monitor/log IP addresses.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Throbbing Redwood Tech: anyone got a vorpal counter handy?
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: anyway to remove a place from mapper? every time I try to use snd to get to an area from recall it sends me to misaki clan area and fails, can I remove just that direction?
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is odd. You should remove the exit and see what other exits are in the clan too.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: is there any way to stop it? if so I don't know how
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: there is mapper purgezone <area>        --> Remove an area from the map database
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: might want to try mapper purgezone masaki
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: then go there and rediscover the area for mapper to correctly map out that area. i believe it's because they have moved their exits last year or something.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: purgezone did it
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: now remember to go explore that place again. so you dont miss anything from mapper
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: there's nothing to explore really, three rooms and a locked door I can't get past
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: thanks all who tried to help, I found it and hopefully I can actually use it from now on
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i cant for the life of me get s&d and mapper to work with sendhian. what am i doing wrong?
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: sendhian is in vidblain, so rt doesn't work
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it works with other vidblain areas tho
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: now if you got a portal to sendhian you could add the portal I believe
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: oh, I'm not sure then
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: you have portals tot he other ones though eh?
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: do you have a Sendhian portal, or are you speedwalking from another area?
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i dont have portal, but i feel like i can go to other areas by walking in vidblain
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: snd help vidblain
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: xset vidblain does that right?
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modra Tech: How do I make a trigger work with only part of a phrase?
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Use wildcards
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modra Tech: Okay. On Mush, how do I use wildcards?
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: just use it?
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: when there's a variable
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: what are you trying to trigger?
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: create a trigger with the partial phrase that you have and use the * to capture the unknowns.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modra Tech: When something attempts to disarm me, or does and I drop it, trying to trigger an automatic "Get" and "wear"
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: isnt the beginning of the line always the same when your disarmed?
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: grab the text from the mud where you were disarmed. Change the name of the mob to * and you should be good.
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modra Tech: I'll try that. Sorry, I'm new to triggers. Still learning. Thanks!
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: is there a way to change specific colours in the mushclient, like all the darker shades so that i can see them, it's not just channels, ut items too
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: type alt+enter, and go to custom colour on the left tabs
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: you can go to ANSI colour as well, depending on what you're trying to do (thats probably the one you want)
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: omg... so much better ty
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: just smash lighter about 32 times
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: it was ANSII, other one did nothing?
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: it does SOMETHING, just maybe not what you want immediately
T3/r7/2022-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: true, nfi what it did, but it's also lighter now
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: anyone know how to get dinv to recognise my new portal wear location?
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: relog
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: it checks wishes when log in
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: yeah, I think it reads your wishes on initialization - i.e. when you restart the plugin
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Evl says goodbye to all those keys he's been hording
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: heh, ok.. thanks :)
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: restart the plugin? so maybe i can keep my keys and just reinstall dinv?
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: did you do dinv refresh all ?
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: yeah didn't work, but i reinstalled and it recognised it
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: reinstalling does not usually work unless you delete the state file also
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: in this case it just needs to recheck which slots you have available, which it does on install/startup
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: well it worked, so got lucky i guess
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: anyone know why the winds trading card site isn't working?
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garrot Tech: Is there a way to stop Hadars identify plugin to stop interfering with the hide skill?
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sadly, no
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garrot Tech: Ah well. Thanks.
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i made an alias for it called sneak2
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Back in my day... we didn't use plugins for spellups!
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garrot Tech: What command is in your alias Scars?
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sneak2              :  hide
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garrot Tech: Ill give that a try. Thanks Scars.
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reltubydoc Tech: i?ve been playing on my iPad which is been connected to my braille display for years now. I?ve just got a new iPad and a new braille display and I?m having a few issues. These issues only seem to happen on MUDRammer so I was wondering if a new client would solve them.
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reltubydoc Tech: sorry about this
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reltubydoc Tech: how's Fiendish's client on I-devices with braille displays?
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: i might just wait until he's online and ask him then if no one has an answer now he's been around pretty frequently lately
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reltubydoc Tech: yeah 
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reltubydoc Tech: I love Aard and all you guys so I?d hate to leave you
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: mushclient doesn't work on iPads and can't be emulated under wine (like on Linux/macOS) AFAIK, unfortunately
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reltubydoc Tech: but my current set up just isn?t working right
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reltubydoc Tech: is there another client that I could use?
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etcha Sletch Tech: i've heard of blowtorch but never used it
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reltubydoc Tech: ok
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Throbbing Redwood Tech: blowtorch is mobile, but may work for you
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etcha Sletch Tech: sounds like ios tablet is the goal
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Throbbing Redwood Tech: though ive only used it on an android, not sure if there is an ios version
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: blowtorch is android only
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Throbbing Redwood Tech: time to trade the ipad for a samsung tablet
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reltubydoc Tech: screw it I'm going on the laptop 
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimith Tech: mudmaster and pocketmud are the only other ios clients i know of, not sure if they will get what you need.
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: apparently there's a way to get tintin++ to work on i-devices, but it looks tedious.
T3/r7/2022-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: woah is that there BAST
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Throbbing Redwood Tech: is there a way to add a countdown timer to a trigger? like when i recieve an item set a timer for 29mins to remind me of the timer on the item?
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can use timers in mushclient
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: in mushclient yes... but the exact format is something you can lookup on the mushclient webpage
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: probably use the doafter function, easiest way
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Irritating. Sonic NetExtender is refusing to cooperate with me today, so I get to lose out on 7 hours of pay since I cannot work from home currently. WTF.
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: but, now you could play aard all day
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: always an up side
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or... I could go play RE8.
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just finished RE7.
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Finally got it to work. Took a registry cleaning and junk file cleaning, but hey, now I'm able to work from home again. Yay.
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: keep getting this with bsp Trigger function "spelltag_on" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: reinstall bsp
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: tried restarting mush without saving
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: see what that does
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: faster to reinstall in plugins window. you dont lose anything by doing it. but trigger problem would be fixed same as installing fresh (plugins go bonkers if anything in it fails)
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: dinv tech support hello this is hellion, help file says "dinv search all" will shoe me everything ... then says I have no "all" 
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: show*
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaoil Tech: when i try to scroll up... it puts a line through the window and wont let me look at everything. is there a correction for this?
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: u can uninstall that plugin if u like
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaoil Tech: what plugin? and how do i do that?
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: that's a builtin behavior of mushclient. i'm trying to remember how i usually turn it off
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: it's the splitscreen scrollback plugin
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaoil Tech: just disable it or remove it?
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: functionally, either should do what you want
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: but if you don't want it there's no reason to not remove it
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaoil Tech: thank you for the help and the information. it is much appreciated
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you can also grab the split line and move it up or down if you just want it in a different location
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaoil Tech: i just wanted it to go away
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: that's fine
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaoil Tech: i accidently turned off the bigmap window. can i turn itt back on with a soecific command?
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaoil Tech: i accidently turned off the bigmap window. can i turn it back on with a specific command?
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: aard help
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: uh aard layout help
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: tho mapper show should work
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: woot
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: im switching computers..  I tried uploading my entire mushclient folder to goolge drive and downloading it on new computer, but it won't run correctly on new computer.  no plugins etc.  Any ideas?
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: I think you have to manually install your plugins, did you already do that?
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: have not done that yet.  will i love my mapper db and settings and snd?
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: er lose
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: if you moved the whole mushclient directory, shouldn't have to reload plugins
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: i dragged the entire MUSHclient folder into google drive and downloaded that onto new machine
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: do you still have your old mushclient available in your old computer?
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: yep it's what this is on currently
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: would try manually adding them/installing via plugin wizard
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: or sorry just the Plugins... option
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: sounds as if your upload is messed up.  try it by zip'ng your current mushclient, upload, then download to new computer and unzip.
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: i'd say stay away from the plugin wizard, heh
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: alright will try that
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: on the topic of MUSHCLIENT, anyone wanna try my latest version of my graphical mapper? just released like 5 minutes ago
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: https://i.imgur.com/YiQbxM3.png   
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: ok that worked yay!
T3/r7/2022-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: thats the mapper in aylor
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: check this out if you're a nerd and you like fonts: https://int10h.org/oldschool-pc-fonts/fontlist/
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: especially ancient old computer fonts
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: has anyone verified that mushclient works on windows 11 yet?
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: i'm running mushclient on 11 right now, haven't had any issues yet.
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: cool
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: evolve, use Linux
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: i do use linux, but i have to test my graphical mapper on all OS
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: anyways arent you like permanently on android or something?
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: was, till i got a machine that isn't old enough to vote any more
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: hah, nice!
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: hey all, how big are your monitors and what resolution do you run?
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: If ya'll wanna see the graphical mapper, check it out.  Sen'narre Lake,  BEFORE: https://i.imgur.com/2kp2Tt0.png  | AFTER: https://i.imgur.com/AiEXuFj.png
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i see hadar has a plugin manager can you selected from all his plugins to install them?
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: whats the command to change how mapper runs to specific areas, ive done it before but forgot. Need to add a open into the rt 
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: xrt?
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: mapper cexit
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: mapper help exits
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: cexit i know xrt might be it
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: customizing the movement from room A to room B is the mapper cexits, you can't fix a runpath without setting the cexit to my knowledge
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: xrt (for snd) is basically just an alias for "mapper goto {roomid}" - it'll use any cexits you've added to mapper
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: ill be more specific, gauntlet is a pain and i want its start are to be the farthest it can go without having to kill for keys or aggros
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: you need to use cexits to open the closed doors then?
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that is different - xrt set, i think, to whatever room you want
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: xhelp xrt
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: oh, start room. i see
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: ty i will read that right now
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: xhelp xset mark maybe?
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: xhelp mark!
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: i have a new computer... not when double happens i hear the standard sound but also the windows 11 sound ?!  anyone know why it would play both?
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HereComeDe Smudge Tech: anyone have the fix for the caravan rename handy? I missed it at the time, and have broken snd links
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: snd update if you're using crowley
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: I think its the index areas command
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: is there a way to change the colors that certain channel messages and channel names print in?
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: anyone have decent stat settings for dinv as a thief?
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: If ya'll wanna see my latest graphical mapper, check it out.  Sen'narre Lake,  BEFORE: https://i.imgur.com/2kp2Tt0.png  | AFTER: https://i.imgur.com/AiEXuFj.png
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: Hit me up if you want to start using and testing it out.
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: This is AYLOR| Before: https://i.imgur.com/N5P2d14.png | AFTER: https://i.imgur.com/Dc5geWo.png
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: you can also toggle red borders around all of the unsafe rooms in aylor, if you want (good for pk) you'd be surprised which rooms in aylor are UNSAFE
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yifgrem Tech: that looks cool
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: it IS cool!
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yifgrem Tech: is it an addition to the gmcp_mapper?
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yifgrem Tech: or a replacement?
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: its a modification of the existing mapper. you can toggle between graphical or non graphical with one click or command
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yifgrem Tech: yeah I wanna try that
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: https://github.com/AsmodeusBrooding/Aardwolf/tree/main/GraphicalMapper
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: the instructions are super simple, listed at the link
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yifgrem Tech: installed it, testing out..
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yifgrem Tech: one comment already - up/down arrows are hard to see in the current room
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yifgrem Tech: other than that it's looking good so far
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: what is your current room size? if you click the asterisk on the top left of the plugin window it will tell you
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yifgrem Tech: 18
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: okay, i will get the YOU ARE HERE border to scale with room size
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: thanks for that
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yifgrem Tech: yeah, that'd be great.. thank you!
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: this is why i need more testers
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: so we can make good progress
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaoil Tech: is there a way to use "dinv" to know what level equipment is and auto wear them?
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: dinv set wear ,pclass.
T3/r7/2022-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: <pclass>
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kegu Tech: im using a pup tracker and it should reset the pup counter/breakdown when i close my client but it keeps all the data and doesnt reset. Ive tried deleting and fresh installing it but it still remebers all the data. Any ideas on how to reset this or why this is happening?
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: Where does mapper keep it's backups, please?
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: its backups damn autocorrect
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it's in db_backup
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: thx I see it. Okay. I think I can be portable.
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: whats the command to set a portal and its location? example : I have a royal audience and I want "it" (mapper? snd?) to pull it out of a bag specified and wear it, then use it when it determines either i have to go to that area or an area close to that
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mapper help portals
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: i did :/
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: you use dinv?
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: its not clear enoughn for me
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: yes i do
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: then while standing in the room the portal takes you to type "mapper portal dinv portal use <objid#>"
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: mapper portal dinv portal use #
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: gotcha ty :)
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: this will take it out aswell? or will that be part of the wear command i have feed it?
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: it will take it out, enter it, put it back
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: like get royal bag;we royal
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: it will take it out wear it use it remove it and put it away again
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: ooo nice ty
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: that's all you need to enter, it'll do everything for you
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: ^^
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: can i do that for real life for like things i take out and leave on the counter and get nagged at for forgetting?
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: I actually made a really simple plugin that does the same thing before I knew that dinv did it lol
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: would be nice
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thanos Tech: anyone able to help me whip up a business logo? If you're in the business, could talk business cards as well!
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zabbu Tech: so is there a guide or something i can read to figure out setting up portals for mapper to use?
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i think i used a forum post on MUSH forums
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: have you read mapper help portals yet?
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zabbu Tech: yes, but i tried to set something up and it broke all my run tstuff
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: https://gammon.com.au/forum/?id=12930
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: read through what Fiendish says in his replies
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zabbu Tech: thanks for finding that for me, this should be really helpful
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: once u get the alias and variable setup its just using the correct syntax 
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: Umm if I'm getting messages like this now, did I screw up my map DB reinstalling GMCP_Mapper plugin?
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: "Room 764 (<No area>) (764)"
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yep. there is no 764 room. 
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: So...is there a way to restore from a backup?
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you can fix it from mapper to seach where it happens and remove it from db
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: for easier solution, use mapper to walk where it takes you through that (you should know as you get the message) and other is fixing the db hard way
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: why I am I seeing double messages from global? didnt lasher teach those imms yet?
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: whats the command to prevent maaper from running to a zone to high level tp get to another zone
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: level lock
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: mapper help exits
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: Anyone know how to fix error with Search & Destroy plugin when I click links or use xrt?
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: whats the error?
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: Run-time error
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: sorry 1 sec
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: is it 'no paths found' to roomname within 300 or something like that?
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i think it does that when the room is not mapped
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: Reason: processing alias ""
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i suggest you run to the area and look at a map
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: no such column: r.date_added
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: thats the error...hrm have not seen that myself, yu try re,loading the plugin?
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: plugin and game
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: Can't seem to get it to work even following the tutorial on the makers website
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: might have to wait for somoen more tech savy then me  :P
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: crowley or fiendish is my guess
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: Like the First Ascent thing won't work either, give a similar error
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: ah kk
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: Thank you anyway!
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karathos Tech: you need to setup the proper cexits in the mapper
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: You should post a log of what happens
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah they are the experts
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: it could also be an issue with exits or explored rooms
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: fiendish is all about client issues, and depending on which version of S&D you use, Crowley will be the one for that
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: I setup a cexit for the first ascent one and that didn't work either though
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: exits (custom exits, as Karathos said)
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karathos Tech: for example, if you look at speedwalk ascent you can see the 'climb the chain' custom exit, you need to add that to mapper so it knows how to get there
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: Yes... I did that
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what do you get on "mapper goto 43150"
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: sometimes it's as simple as improper cexit commands, like if you have to open a door and then walk through it, gotta use two ; so it'll keep it in one command
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: if that doesn't work, try mapper goto 32529
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: the mapper got works fine
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: and mapper cexits here, then delete the ones that aren't working
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: okay, so it's not a pathfinding issue
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: its the map extender plugin having an issue I think
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: which means it's an S&D problem not a mapper problem
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: post a log, including the error, to pastebin
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: well poo
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karathos Tech: the No paths foundin 300 rooms is a mapper error though no? Don't think snd throws that
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: no, it's different, 1 sec I'll post both that happen
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: include the commands that you enter
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karathos Tech: if you haven't already, you may need to index areas xhelp index areas
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: here's the xrt one, 1 sec and I'll ge the other, gotta close and reopen
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: https://pastebin.com/NkASEFDq
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: try xrt ascent instead
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: done that
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: you using winklewinkle's snd plugin?
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: if you are, you should be using Crowleys instead
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: also yes, where did you get the plugin?
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karathos Tech: hmm, this is the old snd, might want to get the newer one https://github.com/AardCrowley/Search-and-Destroy
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: and if you're aren't you should be using WinkleWinkle's instead
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: well
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: y'all and your snd
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: that would be my problem lol
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: seriously
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: yeah, I don't think Winkle's has been updated that much lately, but Crowley stays pretty on top of his, could just be a difference between updated client and outdated snd
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: who needs plugins anyway
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: there's also a Pwar version I think
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: what about the mapper, you think that's fine as is?
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: only for warriors though
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: pwar uses winkles
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: or extension rather
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: mapper is client side, isn't it?
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: mapper should be fine as long as your on the latest version from Fiendish
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yes, mapper is client side
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: I mean the extension mod that Winkle packs his mods with
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: what's the command to check version, blanking
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: checkversion
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i use pwars SnD and the externder and i have no issues wit hthe newest mush
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: snd is at the top of the mini window, should be on 5.99
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: yeah, I'm using r2178
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: lol if you're not using your own custom S&D :D
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: my version was only 3.50
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: so use pwars and does he have the same version of extender?
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: use crowleys
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: they both do pretty much the same thing
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: someone linked it
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Pwar has been absent for a while, unfortunately
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: I started having a lot of problems with S&D when I was using WinkleWinkle's and then I switched to Crowley's and it's been great honestly
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah we wish pwar wouldcome back  :)
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: I shall try that, thank you and I'll be back in 5 mins when something goes wrong xD
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: not sure if this is right, someone have a link to Crowley's?
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: just finger crowley, it'll always have a link
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaoil Tech: do a finger croweley
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: duh. thank you
T3/r7/2022-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: Thank you all, it's working!
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: is anyone able to understand the compare output in dinv?
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: like, what is Ave and Sec?
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: average damage on your two weapons
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: and how can wis show as green, when the thing i'm comparing has no wis?
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: show us the dinv command you're running then we might be able to work it out... been a while since i used dinv compare
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: dinv compare myThief %<id>
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: on spiked leather dog collar
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: The substitutions it makes can be complicated.  Maybe the eq you're looking at has enough luck to cap you out so you can swap out another piece somewhere else to increase your wis.
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: that's just one example
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: yeah, i guess - i really dont get it though, sometimes dinv just swaps one piece for a level, then back
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i sometimes run it twice and it goes back to what i had
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karathos Tech: probably hitting stat caps, then you lvl again, so you need more stats from gear
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: and I'm not hitting any caps
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karathos Tech: huh, idk then
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: even at 201 i'm running Equip Bonus   :  131     15     44    164     22      41    417
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: which ain't great, but just makes dinv so confusing
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: maybe you're rules are setup in such a way that you don't max stats or you need to invest in better gear
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karathos Tech: I do believe that it also takes stats from buffs into account, so that may have changed if you made the calls some time apart
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: equip + spells combine to cap at 200, you can't just look at eq.
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it learns what your stats from buffs are over time and adjusts
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: I'm trying to scan through "dinv analyze display myThief" to get a good example
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: just randomly https://pastebin.com/zeSwXgaj
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: unless it's taking into account spellups that i *should* use on that level, i don't see why that would change - no other changes until next level with some new weaps and the hat changes again
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i get similar things but i also don't run dinv every level so it doesn't affect me
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karathos Tech: shrug* my guess is the you may be using 1-2 pts of dex to hit the cap prior, so 5dr+4str outweighs it, then the next lvl, you use all the dex to hit the cap, making that outweigh the dr/str
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: well that's one issue - but also i generally just want to know how to figure out if something is going to be useful by looking at dinv compare, i've bid on some stuff based on the output, then dinv just doesn't use it
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: I think it's *probably* a good plugin if it weren't so opaque
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karathos Tech: my take here, is that as long as my priority makes sense, whatever dinv does is good enough >_> if I'm lvling, I'll be past that fairly quickly anyways, no need to sort through gear to have it perfect at every level >_>
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: true, but i kinda enjoy improving little bits here and there, so it's kinda part of the fun for me
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: but since i can't find any game mechanics for the stats, i'm stuck messing around blindly :P
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: The problem of what equipment to wear seems simple but is actully super complex when you get into the weeds.  Dinv does sometimes do strange looking things, and it isn't perfect, but if I tried to manually do what it does it would take me forever and I'd probably do a worse job.
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: yeah,  why i'm using it... just annoyed i buy stuff it doesn't use tho
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: any ol' nerds out there know why my entire chrome just wont connect to any websites at all but other browsers are fine?
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: literally just happened out of nowhere
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: is that some dns shit
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: force killed it on the task manager to made it work again, but dats weird because it was working fine still, just not connecting
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tickster Tech: Where do I download SnD and mapper from, and which folder do I put them in?
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: finger crowley for his or pwar for his
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: both should have install instructions on their github wiki
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: assuming you're using mush
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tickster Tech: yeah im using the mush client, thanks, ill go look
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: My SnD is getting some new features added in, hoping to release v6.0 this weekend. :D
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: hopefully it has that automation for quests and cp we all need
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: sneak peek of new features?
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: One feature that people have been asking for... ability to flag mobs as nohunt/noscan/nowhere.
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: nice!
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: One thing that's on the idea board for me is taking the bulk of the code out of the .xml file, moving it all to Lua, and having SnD pull the lua code from the site to load everything. Benefit is hot fixes that don't require anyone to wait until the next version as they can just do snd reload. Downside is if your internet connection is S L O W and times out often. Just something I'm considering, anyway.
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But if I am able to do that, it means that if there's a typo, I can change the Lua file on the repository and have you snd reload.
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: whats the script cmd to put text into the input box but not send it to the mud?
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: There's a few ways to do that.  Echo... colournote...note...depends what you're wanting to do
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i want text into the input box so when i'm ready to send it all i have to di it hit return
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: OHHH input ox
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: I can't read today
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah i know send and note, but i thought i read somewhere there was one just to put in into the box but not send?
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: You're looking for SetCommand for MUSH
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: so SetCommand("test")
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: If using lua that should work.
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: great thanks
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Quick FYI, the documentation says the input textbox must be empty.
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: hrm i have the repeat setting on...that mean i have to clear the box first? there a cmd for that?
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: backspace =P
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: gonna be hard to predict when the script will want to put text in the box  :)
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: well i guess i'll have to see what happens
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Think "PasteCommand" will clear the box.
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: anyone here a Rust dev?
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doge Water Yajan laughs at SNEAKER Mushambo mercilessly.
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: "DINV Skipping portal request: plugin is not yet initialized (are you AFK or sleeping?)" what did i do?
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: gonna relog right quick tho
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: sometimes you can reinstall dinv to kick off init IIRC
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: won't affect your dbs and such
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: or state files rather
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: alternatively close/reopen mush
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: wierd every time i try and delete cexits here in lower planes i get a run-time error from mapper
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: only on this zone
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: try deleting the exit by clicking on the mapper visual map right click box and delete exit and select the one u want, 
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: for some reason my dinv settings have changed or set, my "ignore" specific bags is gone :(
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: shouldnt have sold it. your bag is now gone forever
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: nope its me i changed bags for better % carrying from demon bag to clan bag -.- disregard
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgot Tech: Anyone know how to fix S&D's broken RT's? Occasionally end up in the wrong area and trying to fix it.
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Binary Starky Tech: that's usually a cexit throwing you off
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: is it masaki by chance?
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: probably a clan exit change
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgot Tech: Nah, it' the shouggoth rt
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: had a problem where I kept ending up in masaki, had to purge the area, then reexplore what I could, fixed it
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgot Tech: I end up at A Towering Waterfall
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: check the actual speedwalk the mapper it using
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: then walk it manually to see where the problem is
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: I need to do that with Sendhia, but clicking it a second time fixes it, I'll get around to it one of these days
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgot Tech: I have to manually go to vidblain first and even then send doesn't work sometimes
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: just use mapper where "roomid"
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: I spent the tps to create a portal to the first room of Sendhia
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgot Tech: How do you manually fix that? Just purge it and rexplore?
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: find the problem then fix cexit or purge the room
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: I think the running the speedwalk and then doing it manually till you find the area is the easiest way
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: till you find where the mistake is*
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgot Tech: Found the problem. Was actually pheonix square in aylor that was somehow broken
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: yay, sweet, that's pretty early in the walk
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Why is it that dinv sometimes shows no new items until I do a dinv refresh? After doing that, dinv set works again.
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: dinv help refresh - "If you add a new item to your inventory or remove an item from your inventory, your inventory table must be informed about the change."
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: But the items that it's changing to are old items that dinv had equipped before.  The new items are not used in the dinv set at all. 
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: ngl i had that earlier and all i was doing was a dinv get level 71 , had to do a dinv build confirm :/
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: ah - i often have to refresh for things that change the item itself - tempering, hammerforging, halfweighting, etc, but otherwise don't notice that issue
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Okay...just started using dinv a week ago.  Just noticing these tiny quirks.  I don't mind doing dinv build confirm every so often if I have to.  Like now, dinv set display shows the eq without any colors in the text.  It did yesterday. So I have no idea what to make of that lol.
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: some of the builds you'll need to modify, the default ones aren't that great, and dinv refresh is nice
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Only using my custom builds and didn't use any of the defaults from the getgo
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: here's a fun one - does anyone know of an easy way to insert ansi color codes in jed?
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: what's the current/best way to get your current level?
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: like via gmcp
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: like editing a text file.
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: type level?
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: I think my hacks are outdated IIRC
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: in a script..
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: prolly some gmcp.char thing
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: was thinking the CallPlugin syntax was outdated
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: add the gmcp handler and have it grab it for you
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Using-GMCP
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: I have that
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: require "gmcphelper", local level=gmcp("char.base.level")
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can use that if you are checking gmcp() every time level is checked
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the pluginbroadcast thing is if you want it to fire when your gmcp is updated as a trigger event
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: cool that worked, thanks
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: just seeing how hard it would be to slap together a little thing I was talking about on wang
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: this really isnt the channel to be talking about slapping your wang, y. unless you want to do it 'programmatically' :p
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: while level<200 do slap(wang) end
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mannec crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Redryn.
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: on a possibly unrelated note, no jed users?
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: asking for ... a friend.
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: what's a jed?
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: thats what i said! but apparently its better than pico and nano at dealing with ansi color codes...
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: what?! of course I'm going to do it programatically
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: yes yes, hmm, I understood some of those words
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgot Tech: Anyone know where mapper keeps it's map file? I know I can make backups, but how do I load that backup?
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: main folder iirc
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: lemme look.. I had to find it the other day
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: aardwolf.db in main mush folder
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgot Tech: What about -shm and -wal?
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgot Tech: I think playing on my PC and on my laptop is causing issues and trying to sync my db
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: thumb drives are great for that
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgot Tech: Ever moved the whole mush folder?
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: to answer your other question I'm not sure exactly what those two files do, I did have to utilize a backup on a clean install not too long ago and I didn't have any issues with that
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: yes
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: I just run mush out of a folder myself
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgot Tech: Ahh, so just that file retained your mapper info?
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: seemed to, cexits, portals, notes, and explored rooms
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karathos Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCP-driven-world-mapper#database-corruption
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: morgot I use a thumb drive and that seems to work great, it's what I would reccomend.
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: if you don't like that solution consider some sort of cloud software to help, one drive or something of the sort
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgot Tech: Yea, I've done it both ways with other various games. I go betwen desktop and laptop a lot.
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: same
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morgot Tech: Thanks for the info. Going to get this situated.
T3/r7/2022-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: good luck
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Hi. I'm working on my own client. Trying to figure out how to use GMCP. Is it possible to receive map data?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if you look a the aard wiki it has a section on gmcp data and what you can and can't get
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Thanks. I've been reading the wiki, but I don't understand much of it. Like, how to enable Room?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: do you mean how to enable getting the room data for every room you move in to?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Yes, just as a first step
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: when i ported the gmcp mapper to blowtorch, from mushclient, i used Fiendish's gmcp mapper and just tweaked what i needed to. it's a good place to start
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: That's not a bad idea. The client is on GitHub now I think
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: But when I run "protocols gmcp" I get a list, and "Room" is "OFF". I've tried sending different messages, but it won't go "ON"
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: what does your list look like? is everything off?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Everything off, yes
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: i'm not 100% sure but your client might have to tell the server that you support certain gmcp options, see http://www.gammon.com.au/gmcp
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Looks like I need to send Core.Supports.Set. Will try this. Thanks :)
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: a new client? neat
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: are you modifying your mushclient or MAKING a new client?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: A differnet kind. Kind of. The idea is to use SSH instead of Telnet, for users
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Making it from scratch
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: woah, cool
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: I was so glad that all i had to do for Blowtorch was port the plugins from mushclient and not have to re-code them from scratch
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Here is my POC from last week: https://imgur.com/a/AulQEZO 
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: hah, cool
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: if you like terminal stuff, this is also cool: https://github.com/Blightmud/Blightmud
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: My dream would be that aardwolf would embrace it, or the idea, and run it on their domain. I think it could draw a lot of players
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: have you seen the existing aardwolf clients out there?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Yes I talked to blightmud guys on Discord. Their client doesn't use tui from cargo though
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you don't need a new client to support ssh, just an ssh proxy
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: So in tehroy my client can be better than blightmud - except for scripting, but I don't plan on adding that, since it is targeted for beginners
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: SSH + tintin is an option, but this isn't just a SSH proxy, I got the SSH server as well. It is inspired by https://github.com/shazow/ssh-chat 
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: The idea is that beginneres connect with SSH instead of Telnet, and get full terminal UI similar to mush
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: well maybe you'll be able to convince lasher to support ssh
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but client functionality shouldn't be dependent on an encryption layer
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: It would be really cool. More people with SSH these days, and they get GMCP + MCCP + secure connection. Need to make the client more usable first though :)
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what you're making should probably work the same regardless of telnet or ssh
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but I like the style
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Well yes, and it does, when I test it now I don't run through SSH
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: since you're capturing the map, you should switch maptype
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Oh, is that how you do it?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: maptype 1 is my preference
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Thanks for the tip. I need to render it out as fancy ANSI color coding in the end though. Capturing was a pain, hoping I could get it in colors over GMCP...
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I've asked lasher in the past for a way to get the map over gmcp, but no dice
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Ok, good to know. Parsing works
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I hope you're at least using the map tags
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: map tags? :P
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: O_o
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yoooo
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: really?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: thats some bootleg stuff lmfao
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: i did that on a mud WITHOUT tags, lol
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: well not just map tags, there are tons of useful ones but for that the maptags are what you really need
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: uhh... "tags map on"
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: welcome to easy mode
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Well would you look at that. haha. Thanks a bunch
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: I haven't written a MUD client before. Haven't played in many years, and then I only used clients without any scripting
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what are you doing to capture it now?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Just got inspired by ssh-chat, and thought "this should be a MUD!" and here I am
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: I .. don't want to talk about it. Haha. I look for the player (by color code and #), then parse line by line to find differnet color or blank line :P
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: My client would need to sync tags on every connection. That is normal? Query the list, and enable/disable based on support?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: pretty normal
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I don't even bother tbh. I turn on what I need on, but I don't turn off anything.
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Can I do that in GMCP?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: well...I try to turn things off when possible, but it's not actually possible for all cases
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Yeah that would work fine
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you can toggle tags with telopts, which are sort of like gmcp but not exactly
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: oloorin which capture app are you using btw
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Capture app?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: to record your app
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: like, to show us your client on imgur
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: I don't use any? Oh the imgur? gifcast
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: okay thanks
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: ascinema is better for such things though, but it kind of didn't render well :P
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: One last question; Do you get chat from GMCP, or is tha parsed as well with tags?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: chat from gmcp is the easiest
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I use gmcp but you can do either
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Ok, thanks :)
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: both ways have their downsides
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: if you use gmcp, consider possibly _not_ using gmcp rawcolors
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Haha. Not like both ways have their good parts
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I use gmcp rawcolors and I think it might be a mistake
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: But I want fancy in my terminal-based client?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: of yeah, colour via gmcp was a PITA
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Isn't it ANSI? Since I got a terminal client I can just print out the colors as-is
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: not if you enable rawcolor mode
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: I see... tags it is then :D
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: true fact you can get ansi colors in gmcp too. I just didn't do it because at the time I thought it would make sense 
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Ah. gmcp it is then! It depends on your client, if you don't have a terminal the ANSI stuff is just a bother
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: anyway if you want to explore rawcolor mode...
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: just to see what it does
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: type 'rawcolor'
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Will do. Need to get gmcp to work first :)
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: do toggle it for gmcp you have to send 'rawcolor on'/'rawcolor off' via gmcp to the server
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but for normal output just typing rawcolor will do
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: er rawcolors
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I wish I remembered why I decided to use rawcolors in gmcp. honestly I should probably switch it.
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but it would probably break a bunch of people's plugins
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: That is the best part of my client - people can't control it :D  at least that is the plan. Only defaults
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: people don't want that though
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Beginners don't mind. And perhaps casuals
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: The tradeoff is that you don't need a client
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: anyway I'm looking forward to your progress. it looks nice so far
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: Thanks. Will post when I release it on GitHub. Thanks for all the help, a lot of basic things I didn't know about :)
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'm not always around and other people don't always give the best answers here, but you'll probably get reasonably good results by posting here or on the board "hey I'm trying to capture the map. is there an easy way?" lol
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i had forgotten about tags, to be honest
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olooorin Tech: I didn't expect to get any answers here, I was surprised about the good answers. And I didn't expect to meet you - I have been looking at your client on GitHub
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: everyone meets me eventually
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Olooorin D
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: Fiendish is very helpful
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Firndish is like the Oracle
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Fiendish is like the Oracle
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ghaoil smacks IAC DO Fiendish out of his boots with a sign reading "WUV YOU !!"
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the oracle never gave a straight answer to a question
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: No. But everone eventually met the Oracle
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: how do I set a note in a room?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: a mapper note?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: mapper addnote
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: yaya
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: or just right click on the room in the mapper window and Edit Note.
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: Hi. Just a note: I'm olooorin, this is just my more common nick, and I will be using this from now on here. And another question when I have the attention: Can I change output character width?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: yes, press alt+enter and go to output, it should be on the bottom
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: "wrap at column number"
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: I don't think "alt+enter" means much in my own client. Could be some command, or gmcp? 
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynin Tech: is there anyway in mushclient to setup an alias that will start a timer?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: a timer that counts down or counts up
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: enabletimer
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynin Tech: counts down, like I have a buff alias and wanted a timer for when to reactivate it
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just create alias that sets up timer to count required time which then fires your buff
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: You can do DoAfter(seconds, "gt redo SANCTUARY") where seconds can be any number
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynin Tech: dope thanks, Ill have to try to get one working after the SH xp is off lol
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=AddTimer
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: is there a command in mapper to extend the 300 move limit?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: oh nvm i'm doing a stupid thing
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: @Quadrapus @Raded - a coouple of months ago I was asking for help with monitors losing screen position on shutdown why connected via DisplayPort. TLDR: the issue is being caused by monitors going to 'deep sleep' after receiving a sleepOK kind of command via DisplayPort. The solution: if you monitor's on-screen setup let's you disable DeepSleep, that should fix it. Other solution: my monitors don't let me change that via the OSS, but if I put a MSTSC session up in focus and span it between monitors they behave correctly (sleep without killing all my windows/positions). 
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Thanks, I'll check that out. Appreciate the followup and glad you got it sorted out.
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: Question, for trigger:   * has invited you to join group:*   why would %1 return nil?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: https://imgur.com/a/48TUZ5I <- this is what my screens may look like when I'm "done" for my session if I want sleep to work nicelym, just to illustrate "mstsc on top and spanning". Not sure if MSTSC's weird stuff with resolution is part of the solution, or another app would work fine, I just happen to have that RDP session up a lot :) And yea, has been bugging me for weeks, I like my new monitors a lot but losing window positions every morning was driving me nuts. 
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i give up why can't i grab a vaRIABLE IN TRIGGER?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i keep getting nil
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: how are you using %1?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: say hello %1
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: from * says 'hello' 
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: not workand and when i Note(%1) it returns nil
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: try Note("%1")
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: make sure you have regular expression tagged
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: right side of trigger window
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: you don't want regex expressions if you're just using *
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok that works...guessi  had my %1 on thew wrong side of ""
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that wont be regex, just mush to think it is one. and * would work for it
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i was doing Send("say hello "..%1)
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: htanks knew it had to be somthing stupid
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: anyone know what the other Aardwolf db files are for? Aardwolf.db-shm and .db-wal?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7778723/what-are-the-db-shm-and-db-wal-extensions-in-sqlite-databases
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: ty
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: No you can use blockchain whenever you want a distributed db, size beyond your control, when every transaction must be ratified by every node.
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: mis
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: Hi. In my client, would it be wise to parse line by line, and if so, how do I handle prompt (it does not have a newline)?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaoil Tech: is there a way to make the channel info stop in the main window and only show up in the coms window? its kinda spammy...
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: right click the tab on the comms window, it lets you configure capturing options. i think one of them is to mute it in the main window
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: "echo in main window settings" will probably do it
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaoil Tech: thanks for the information!!!
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: Aardwolf.db in the main mush root is the mapper database right?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: had a weird mapper error flash on my screen, i just quit and reopened mush and my mapper doesnt appear to be working at all now. doesnt recognize anything. I restored a backup and it has all the rooms and areas and such if i view it an sql viewer. 
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: what could be causing the disconnect if the DB appears to be intact?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sleazy Areia Tech: Kalsch: World name got changed to something other than Aardwolf, maybe? Weird q, but that ended up being my problem when that happened to me.
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: that would just be Aardwolf.mcl?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sleazy Areia Tech: Yeah. should show Aardwolf up at the top.
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sleazy Areia Tech: No other guesses if that's not the prob.
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: mapper starts mapping out areas if i go to them now even with older backups
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sleazy Areia Tech: huh
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: just seems like theres some connection missing
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: like i type mapper areas and it only shows the ones i just went to. But in my mush folder right now if i open the database in an sql viewer my areas table is full
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: so wtf file is it loading
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: restart mush?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: done it
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: what does \\\print(WorldName()) say?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: issue was solved with tinytaters hint. My world name output was not Aardwolf. Think i fatfingered a settings dialogue and hit enter without seeing what i was doing
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: so it was creating and loading a blank db by that world name
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: is there a way to set notes for specific mobs in snd? like this mob is n-scan, etc.
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: if it's no where/nohunt/noscan you're just kind of stuck.  
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: for pwars SnD yes you can
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: for Crowleys i don't know
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: ah I did not know
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: how do u do it in pwar's?
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: if you right click the mob in the SnD window there is a option to add mob substitution, it takes you through a series of question that include no hunt no wehere and no scan
T3/r7/2022-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: anyone have a plugin that tells toy what pool in lplanes or uplanes a mob is in?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: anyone know of a plugin that change an alias for an attack skill based on level / class ?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: nope. but it aint too hard to write. just take level and preferred skills into alias and you can do it yourself
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: i should put the skills/lvl in a table probably
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: you can get level and primary class out of gmcp if you start codin it up
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you can get skills from allspells, and since it's always highest attack spell, it shouldnt be too much trouble
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: and then you can use a table or in mush you can use variables to set stuff as well, pick your poison
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: I know you can get class, subclass, lvl from GMCP, I was just wondering if someone already did something similar and wanted to share :)
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: you'll want to take tier into account as well (can get that from GMCP)
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: I do that kind of thing manually, not aware of a plugin that does it
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I have something like that, but it is so "all over the place" system that it would be pointless to make a plugin from it 
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: I do what you're describing for equipping shields and offhand/dual wields
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: same concept, different usage
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: maybe it is time to start writing that plugin :)
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: in the end, there is really small amount of skills/class that you use in combat
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: at low tier, when you change/try different classes I find myself forgeting to change to the right spell/skill. 
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yeah, I know the feeling. just couple days ago I found out that my dampening spell determines which class I am and changes to dispel *chuckle*
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: so I've been there and done exactly what you want. just  because I forget things
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: maybe something that you can edit (like priorities on dinv) and will compare the lvl with a table of skills
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: you still need to go train that skill :)
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you can use allspells minlvl maxlvl every leveling time to check if you are applicable to practice better spell/skill. and as said, since there is only limited amount of spells that u use. it's easy to setup
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if spell is 1% you just dont use it until you have practiced. and if you practice, your script should realize that
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: making it work for every class and every single time, now there you have problem. for self, should be quite easy 
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: I will start with navigator and maybe will add other later
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yep. it's easier to work with what you have
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: with navi it's just c deso c deso c deso
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: not if you are leveling :)
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: who needs spells when you're leveling
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you dont even see those 80 levels as a redoer. too fast even without spells
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: I just hit everything with my flailing arms
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: and all I see is ^$%$%%$$%%#$%# YOU DO UNSPEAKABLES!
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: at T9 you skip 90 levels of spells :)
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Anyone know if there are any logs somewhere that could point me in a direction as to why my mushclient crashes?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Silent crash
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: which system?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: W10
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: type event viewer in search box. you should be able to see some of it. mush alone doesnt keep track of those so you need to check system logs
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, only gives... Very little
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: 0xc0000005
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: access violation
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hmmm
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: it would  crash due to you infinite looping somewhere
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: is it in reaction to an alias or trigger?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It feels like it isn't... I wasn't doing anything I aint doing thousands of times per day
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: where are you when you crash usually
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: This time I was in bloodlust dungeon around... The three doors that are like 4s4w4n or somewhere around there
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: do you have any bast plugins
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: bast plugins are known to be full of crash bugs, heh
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: None with him as an author, no
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: are you using a con window or anything like that
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'm using conw, yes... Have for a year
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: were you crashing as long as that, or less than that
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I have no idea what that means :P
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: try removing it. and see if it has any affect
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: since you've had that plugin, i mean
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh! No, this was my second crash since yesterday and I've made no changes to my plugins... Been running Conw since october 2020
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: khadaji is figuring out most known crash plugins here
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: what version of mushclient are you on? type checkversion
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: what changes have you done since day before yesterday
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: r2149
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: None, but I had my computer reboot yesterday for a windows update
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: sheesh, I need to press later button for now then 
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: lol
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Well, it's the only difference to my computer today from two days ago, and I've had two crashes... So maybe
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: latest aardmush version is  r2190. so you might want to update that.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just to be sure
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I'll try that.. Just hate updating something that hasn't been making a problem :P
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: well it appears it has!
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I know. basicly it's more about plugins update .. 
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: all your plugins ill work, now they just track the automated ones
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: mushclient in itself havent changed in ages
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Tell me more, what's new about how the plugins are handled?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: the bandit bot is more efficient, u dont even have to press any button
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: fixes for plugins that they dont crash your whole client. 
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh, sounds like fun to play... :P
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh, more error handling is always positive
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Maybe, if the crash is because of a "hidden" plugin update I'll get information that it wants to crash instead of just straight up crashing
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i would assume on thr website is a whole changelog, i just update when its available
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'll try
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: update can refresh your mushclient to not kneel before queen of crashes. while I think most of the updates between your version and new is mostly just cosmetics. updating could refresh the mushclient access to resources it needs from win. 
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, that's smart :)
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: in a plugin I have a SetVariable("a", "test") . How can I use that variable in an alias in mushclient interface ?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: use getvariable to pick it up
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: GetVariable("a")
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: in any script you want. it's in variables so it's for starters glob al
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: can't use "cast @a" with expand variable selected ?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No, because if it's in a plugin, it stays local to that plugin.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: ok, thanks
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If it's in a plugin, you can do GetPluginVariable()
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Then you can create an alias in MUSHclient to access the plugin's variable.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: working on a plugin that get the highest trained spell/skill and use it
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: u can use gmcp plugin for getting right level and stuff. then use spell list to use highest level spell that is above 1% and if you want to go high tech, you can use showspell to determine which spells are actually combat
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokus Tech: if I keep a backup of the dir where I have my mushclient and plugins, is my mapper registry (all the exploration) backed up aswell?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: it is possible from a plugin to set a global variable (the ones in Mushclient Variables window)?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yes, mapper backups are in your mushdir
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokus Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yes gigel, you can use mushvariables and they are always easy and global to access. just use getvariable and such
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nuanse: It's better to do 'spells combat' to see that information. :p
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if you are creating plugin for yourself, you shouldnt access mush variables at all but use plugin state for that stuff. less interaction between plugin and mushvariables is always better
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: Nuanse, GetVariable get the variable from that plugin not from MushClient Configure Variables
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I know crowley. not giving these high tech stuff to noobs 
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: I use allspells psi combat, parse that, get the spell, but after that I want to use it in an mushclient alias "cast  %1"
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, the question was could he SET a variable in MUSHclient outside of the plugin. But for what it's worth, I do not recall it being possible to access MUSH variables. Plugin variables come from the state file, not from MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: mushclient alias "cast @a %1"
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Why not build that into the plugin, Gigel?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: setvariable crowley. it uses mushvariables
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nuanse: Yes, but they stay LOCAL TO THE PLUGIN.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: no, setvariable uses mushvariables
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: SetVariable creates a MUSHClient-style variable, but that varaible is saved to the plugin's state file, not MUSHClient.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: so you can set a variable for mushclient variable with that. it doesnt go for plugins only
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: because I want that spell to be used in aliases or other plugins
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i use setvariable to set in-client vars all the time...
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: how can I tell xset kk to use that spell ? I suppose i can create a server alias..
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley sighs.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i should read the scrollback before jumping into this :D
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Gigel: You can do xset kk <alias name> and it'll work.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I would say you should just use kk as ingame command which your script then changes for correct spell
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: Crowley that is what i did till now, but if that alias has a variable ? 
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nuanse: If your plugin uses SetVariable inside the plugin, it will only set it FOR THE PLUGIN'S state file. Otherwise, you'd have hundreds of "plugin variables" set in your variable GUI, with many of them possibly overlapping.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: when you change your scripts. kk still stays as main command for everything. and you only need to change kk as ingame alias for lots of scripts that you have
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yep. but I think gigel aint asking setvariable function for a plugin yet. he wants to use it in scripts that he is creating
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: long way from scripts to click that plugin wizard 
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: What's the benefit of a plugin over, say, a really long combat alias?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: in my script i can select a spell and want to use that as main spell for most of my attacks , maybe change it if mobs are immune.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: portability, readability
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: probably some variable scoping
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Gigel plainly asked, "it is possible from a plugin to set a global variable (the ones in Mushclient Variables window)?", which cannot be done from a plugin.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: What about performance-wise? Are they similar enough?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Similar enough.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Thanks Crowley. I ask only because I have made my own dingy little version of what Gigel is aiming for, but in alias form.  Very clunky, but it gets the job done
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: Thanks Crowley, then I need to find a solution or just use aliases :)
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: One added benefit, in my opinion, is that you can work on the plugin without interrupting play. One of the greatest drawbacks for MUSHclient is that if you have a GUI window open, you cannot interact with the MUD at all. That's one thing that I miss that CMUD could do.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: I just make my edits in a notepad and then paste it in lol
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: agreed. that is a pain
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: zmud/cmud can also do that if you use com object hooks and external code to generate the gui
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: Also it easy to disable a plugin than a bunch of aliases/triggers
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: eh. you can set a label group for aliases/triggers and just disable the group
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: well can do it like us novices and set a group
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anssett enthusiastically high-fives Limunious!
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Gigel: As a side note, if you're using kk, it automatically appends the target from SnD, anyway, so all you'd need to do is do: xset kk <plugin alias>, and it'll send: <plugin alias> %1 automatically.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: I'm definitely in the novice camp and use groups lol
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: lots of good help files online for making trigger groups and turning them on and off
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Actually, trigger groups are not just for novices. I use them a bit myself. :p
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: Crowley, will try that
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Maybe....you're one of us too Crowley? =D
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: we are all noobs on this glorious day
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: (I kid)
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: are we talking about triggers inside the plugin or in Mushclient window?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Something people may not realize, either... you can stack a command with kk. For instance, you can do: xset kk backstab;;spiral notarg - Then it'll backstab your mob, then spiral afterwards.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: can't see a way to disable a bunch of triggers from config GUI
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Trigger groups, alias groups... inside/outside plugins.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: not gui - use google
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Got to use that google-fu of yours, Gigel.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If they are placed within a group, you can just do: \\\EnableTriggerGroup("trigger group name", false)
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: https://lmgtfy.app/?q=how+do+i+make+trigger+groups+in+mushclient
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gigel Tech: thanks Crowley
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: mushclient has pretty damn good documentation and the forums are all right too :)
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, trigger groups show up nicely in MUSHclient's GUI. Makes it easier to keep track of things.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: Is it possible to tag the prompt? Knowing the "end" of a transmission would help me make my client
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I do.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can generate your own tags with the prompt. For example, prompt {prompt}%c[prompt information]%c{/prompt} -- that'll create 3 separate lines with open and close tags for prompt.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or you can put it all on one line, whatever you need to do.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: Ah, nice. But I can't really force a prompt on people trying out my client?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: see 'help prompt' for all your customization needs. You can literally have it say, "Hi, Eirikb! You are FABULOUS TODAY! Here are your vitals!"
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: basicly you cant force anyone. but if you are building stuff yourself then there is way. and crowley gave it to you
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, no. If the goal is to distribute something, that's a bit harder as there are no native prompt tags.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if the leader of a group is also the person i follow, will that duplicate the info on prompt?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: I was hoping to parse the incoming data line by line, but since the prompt doesn't end in a newline that is hard
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish wrote a prompt fixer for just that reason, honestly.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can write something that will take a player's prompt, keep it what it is, but append a %c to it.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: That could work. A bit sneaky. People won't get mad? I'm planning on updating tags as well
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, there may be some people who want their prompt to not end it, but that's very rare, to be honest.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: I'll try that. Thanks :)
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think it's cool you're developing your own client. You may be hard-pressed to get people to try/switch, as MUSHclient is the de facto client anymore, but it always makes me smile to see people attempting to make their own versions.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: I have a feeling it might get some attention, at least in the beginning 
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: One last question; Can I get the prompt over GMCP? I can blindly set tags on start, but to append to the prompt I must first read it
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can get the information (most of it) over GMCP, yes.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: View the GMCP documentation here: http://wiki.aardwolf.com/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: Ok, thanks. Oh and, would changing the prompt add the value to paging as well?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Yeah, you don't want the _prompt_ presumably.  You want some information in it.  And if you can't force people to a certain prompt format, you can't force them to have that info in it anyway either.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: I don't need the information in the prompt, I just need it to end the line :)
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Eirikb: What do you mean, add the value to paging as well?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: Say I write "help", I will get paging. The paging also has a prompt of a kind, that also does not end in a newline
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Paging is another user-defined setting, honestly. You have paging active, I do not, for example.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But unlike prompt, you cannot effectively tag paging prompts.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The 'help' body does have its own tags, though.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: Yes, but since I don't want to force users to do this or that, perhaps I could look for some alternative. Yes help has tags. If everything had tags...
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: maybe easier to grab info from other source and reshow prompt?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and type prompt to not show it at all from ingame
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: It could be, for now, I should do just that. "prompt off" and "pagesize 0". If I get prompt over GMCP I can just display that
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just grab info from gmcp handler that is aardmush basics and build your own prompt from there. I dont think you should bother with end things from ingame prompt to do such simple task
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: Not important to show things like "Daily Blessing" (just example)?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yeah, and thus using that handler would be best option
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: Sorry you lost me, what is a "handler"? Can I get the prompt as-is from GMCP including ANSI?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if you are using aardmush, you should have plugin for it. handler. you can grab all info from there if you wish
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No, you cannot get the "prompt" itself, just (most of) the information.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: I'm writing my own client. From scratch
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: Yes I got most of the information already over GMCP, so I can make my own version. But without the extra info
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: ah, then you should read those plugins . they basicly do all the things you need
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Anyone know of a good plugin to handle poker cards?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Don't think one really exists currently. I did want to make a graphical one akin to one Ozzy made for zMUD, though.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Maybe I'll do that.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Ah, I see
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'll beta it for ya :)
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I have to play a round of poker to remember all the triggers and stuff I'd need! :p
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh, I meant the poker cards you pick up from mobs :)
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Then, I'm sure there's some plugins out there for poker cards in that regard. :p
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In fact, I know of at least one, but it's a private plugin.
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i created this for aard poker cards, but i don't really do anything with it and it's pretty basic - https://github.com/algaru-aard/Aard/blob/master/AardPokerAnalyzer.xml
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: any idea why my dinv isnt ssaving ignored containers? the list shows empty and ive backedup and saved etc 
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: to change an alias value would i use the function SetAliasOption?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: or i guess its to change the value?
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: Whats the command, if there is one, to wear a gear set according to a snapshot? i havent had a chance to do/need to do this yet because im building my snapshots this remort
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: for dinv
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: dinv snapshot wear
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: where does the snapshot name go? in place of snapshot or after it
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: you dont really need to use snapshot, just use dinv set wear (yourclass). the most edit priorities 
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: type dinv snapshot list
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: dinv snapshot wear <NAME>
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: perfect ty
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: you can always type dinv help for more details
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: ya i usually do was kinda lazy and more of a p[opped in my head as i made a Hellion111 file
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: and send a TP to durel for building what is probably the largest and most complex plugin in aardwolf
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: oh its theirs? sounds like a fair price
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: and being the most helpful dude ever, i was facing some bugs he took a lot of time to help me out too. durel's the man
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] Khadaji Tech: yeah the D stands for durel
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: anyone have any idea why mushclient would "freeze" from time to time (not total freeze, just stops refreshing the main window). commands go through but nothing is shown back
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: mine does that randomly but don't know why either
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: reconnect will make it work again, but it's still quite annoying
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Is it possible to change the backup behaviour that the mapper does in mushclient to wait for a character state it "allows"?
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Instead of trying every 5 seconds for a period of time
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: If it aint broke...
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: but if you have some time to kill and are curious, you could program the backup to check your char's state and go from there.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I was just thinking someone must have thought about doing that before me :)
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: The backup is handled by lua-scripts?
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yes, you can change the backup time changing the code. but to be honest, it's not worth it
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I guess... In combat states are the only ones it doesn't like, right?
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Honestly, I haven't checked. I think Fiendish wrote it and he's a lua-master so I kinda assumed.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it has set times. you can change it. but is it worth it? you kinda are messed with any time you set it up to do backups. it's always wrong time
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I was just thinking about the timing of the retry-time. Retrying every 5 seconds is fine I guess, but having it wait for a good character state _shouldn't_ be that rough to do
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: base is midnight and midday. you can change it to 11 and 23 but. you still get stuck with the 6 second wait
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: OK, now I checked and here's what the plugin says for the creators: Nick Gammon, Bast, Fiendish, Blainer and others. All cobbled together by Lasher. And then recobbled by Fiendish again.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: lol
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh lol
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: tbh I dont even know why background backup should take into consideration your state ingame. 
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: mapper help config
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: mapper backups quiet
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, my problem aint really with the notification which is fine... I just don't want data-loss :)
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: 12 hour backups kinda is for that purpose
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you can add autosave plugin for that and you have state for plugins saved. it's not that noisy 
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: or create your own timer and do some char state checks in there -- then call mapper backup
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: extra backup when even normal backups are stupid? errr
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: you can always turnoff auto mapper backups *shrug*
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yep. you can basicly just uninstall mapper from plugins. much easier
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: I'm sorry... not sure what's the problem with db backups actually
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: i touch my keyboard all the time when backup occurs, im still here :)
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I think the problem is "do not touch anything" message. it takes that 6 seconds in which you shouldnt do anything. 
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: mushambo yeah, it's just safeguard. you wont miss anything if it is run right. 
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: basicly it's just "dont put kitten in microwave" message
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: sounds like a good reminder for you, nuanse <3
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox wuv Odorless Nuanse. Aww, how coot.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: do not put chocolate milk in clothes iron!
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I just buy new kitten 
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: who knew
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: omg lol you tried that? :)
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Side note, do not ever put a single kernel of popcorn in the microwave. I did that when I was much younger and had to carry a 30 lb microwave down a 1/4 mile canal to drop it off in the dumpster.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RabbitSlayer Tech: Why not Crowley?  What did the single kernal do to your microwave?
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: putting kitten in microwave brings 10 dollars to lasher to keep up aardwolf. just saying
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: RabbitSlayer: Well, when the heat has nowhere to go, it tends to kind of make the microwave go "boom!"
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: hell, I need to check this out "do not put chocolate milk in clothes iron!" how bad I can go and blame manufacturer
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: amazon will still probably take the return and just re-ship the chocolate milk iron to me someday when I order an iron
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: who in their little brain cells puts milk and chocolate in their iron?
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox grins mischievously.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Everything is better with chocolate.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: A better question is, who in their right mind puts chocolate and milk together at all?! :p
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: maybe they are trying to color their whitewashed jeans to black
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: "I decided I wanted to go goth, but my skinny jeans that have been whitewashed so much are too bright. Gotta try something to darken the fabric!"
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I can see that form US
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Same.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: thus: do not put chocolate and milk in iron
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There's a Reddit sub that is dedicated to stupid Americans... r/ShitAmericansSay --> As if we needed more reason to be mocked.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that is funny sub. 
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Odorless Nuanse.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: well how do you remove a note again!
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I heard a Ruckus Tech: note remove number
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: thanks. I thought I was doing that. lets try that one again
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tial Tech: Also check if you have the right board active.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: note remove number would just say Remove which note?
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, note that you cannot remove notes that have replies to them.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: with mush is there a way to see if addtimer() was successful?
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Doesn't it return a 0 if successful?
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Throbbing Redwood Tech: i have a tracker displaying a line after each kill, its a single line with 1-15 matching my exprate exp. is there a way to make a single trigger to omit from output this line of 1-15?
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Throbbing Redwood Tech: instead of making multiple ones
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can use regex...
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not sure what you're trying to match, but you can put it all into a single line, really.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: yo
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: mt
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: oy!
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: Do lua arrays start at 1?
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: yes
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: no
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: lua array starts at 0
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: does one of you always lie and the other tell the truth?
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: no
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: no. wait, yes. no?
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: dude, the towere is twice as tall as the island is wide - just look up.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: If you just start adding items to an array, they start at 1.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: only tower worth mentioning is tower that sinks the island
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: You can choose to start them at 0 if you want.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: what about the one that drops a cage on the mouse?
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: technically they start whatever you want since they are implemented as tables
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: but the lua APIs all assume they start at 1
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: wouldnt that robbo mean that it starts at 0? first one is 1 but without first, it's 0'¨
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus nods at Tinypotato.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: a={"a","b","c"}
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: a={"a","b","c"};print(a[1]) the answer to my original question is "yes" and therefore we have determined nuanse always lies
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It was a simple test.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: print a[0]
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Tinypotato is reliable with answers.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Can almost guarantee he'll give the right answer.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: so ask him what nuanse would say and do the opposite
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: got it
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: May be a tater tot, but he's smart.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: nah, tater tot is the kid of a drunkard/comedian.  cant be that bright.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: smart in answering wrong! I disagree to agree
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: table {} has zero values, it is thus valued as 0
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: anyone how to express filepath in one computer language,as i want search the file in all computer
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: sucha as "d:\"&"\"&"\"&"*.pdf"
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: idk if its right
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Feihu - can use powershell to do that.  Get-Childitem Path C:\ -Include *.pdf -File -Recurse -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: you can do more that C:\ by doing like C:\, D:\, E:\  ... etc
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: i write script in vba,want to search the file(like *.pdf) in all computer.
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: where can i get powershell
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikuson Hakugen Tech: in all computers in the environment or in your computer?
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikuson Hakugen Tech: powershell is default installed in > win 10 iirc
T3/r7/2022-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: yeah,i find out
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: anyone use the report_id plugin? the version i have doesnt seem to work.  i get an error message installing it
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: whats the error?
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: Line   15: Attribute name 'crossorigin' not followed by '=' (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: download the plugin by using the download zip link or view as raw, instead of using save as
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i have no idea where i downloaded it. a clannie lonked it to me weeks ago
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: you might be able to edit the file with notepad and find the original link near the top of the file
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: does it show who wrote it?  might be able to finger the author to get to his github site?
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: hadar's plugin looks like.
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: anyone know how i can remove that code underneath spells that is spelling up and debuffing?
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: maybe 'help tags' ?
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: sounds like you have spelltags turned on or not being caught any more
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: many thanks :)
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: odd that it switched on
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: hi guys, which tag uses quaffing of potions and when you loot gold from corpses?
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: or when you loot a mushroom and it dissolves into gold. not physical gold
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hmm... Anyone using dinv know if it's possible to get a report on all items in the root of my inventory, or all items in a certain container?
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Maybe not a tech-question
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karathos Tech: not sure how to report on just the inventory, but you can report on a bag using dinv search rlock <bag name>
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karathos Tech: sorry, rloc
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: Hi. Can I enable tags by sending a GMCP message?
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No.
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There are some config options you can toggle, but no, cannot enable/disable tags at the moment.
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: Oh ok. Can I view tags then, so I don't always have to spam setting them when logging in?
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Again, not at the moment. It's something you could probably write to the ideas board about, though. I'm sure a lot of people would love to be able to silently enable/disable/view tags without sending 'tags' to the screen and gagging the output.
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, there MAY be a way to do it through telnet options. The best person to ask about that would be Fiendish, though, through telnet negotiations.
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: Ok thanks. I could hide the output, but I'm a big afraid to filter out such things
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: you can do a dofile(GetInfo(60).."telnet_options.lua") ... and if you open telnet_options.lua you can see the options you can toggle, you can then use TelnetOptionOn(TELOPT_WHATEVER) to turn them on
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: with mush at least
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: Writing my own client, not sure what that does
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: it just sends the telnet negoations needed
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: Hmm. A bit beyond me. I have negotiations, that is how all work in the background, but I don't see how it helps here
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: for writing your own client it does not :P
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: except lets you see what negoations you can use to turn tags on or off
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: I could send a telnet option to disable remote echo, but that would not work very well - and I doubt aardwolf listen for that
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: I can enable and disable without output - but the result of the action is the problem
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Ive found the best way to handle settings at login is to set the configurations you need and gag the output once
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: Yeah that is an option. But it is a bit scary, and some timing might screw things up
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: It's not a big problem, just wondered if GMCP could do it
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: how do you remove this from quaffing {invmon}7,2611055767,-1,-1?
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: typing invmon will toggle it, but you might have other plugins using invmon so idk
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: amazing thank you :)
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: uh whats a quick and easy way of finding out what the host of my hyperv is
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Firescreek Tech: Windows MUSHclient. Is it possible to recenter the supporting windows?
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: check aard layout
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: as long as they arent load-bearing, yes.
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: erm I broke musclient somehow - I'm logged on now, of course, but I have none of the aardwolf specific panels, and xset reset gui doesn't work, in fact it's recognised as a game command and so returns "Unknown command. Please check the helpfiles" ??
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: "aard layout help" "there is no layout within aardwolf"
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: reinstall?
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: dinv priority question - what is the best way to combine stat ratings + maxstat ratings (ie, "str" and "maxstr") to ensure that i'm hitting but not exceeding the stat cap for my level? Caveat - there's a good chance that it's already doing this and maximizing eq based on OTHER stat weights, but want a gut check here.
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i randomly punch in numbers and hope for the best
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: heh, yeah i have been doing trial-and-error here, but have a feeling i'm missing or misunderstanding something.
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it also bases the calculations on the spellups you've recently been getting, when it changes gear
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: that's a different question but also a great one - so, theoretically, if I were building a set for a single-class that DOESN'T have all spellups, I shouldn't be building that analysis at r7?
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: no, as i understand it, it does the spellup calculations on the fly
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but at lower tiers I had sets for single class vs multiclass because of the extra skills missing
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: for example for warrior aard helm and wings were on the must have all remort list as a single class
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: aye, for my single-class warrior set I used last tier it overly valued detects+haste
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: my os.date ("%A, %m %B %Y") shows 1 jan 2022instead of current date.. any idea why?
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: does the same for me, maybe the %m should be %d
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: worked well in 2021 :P
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: from the manual %m - Month as decimal number (01 - 12)
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: %d - Day of month as decimal number (01 - 31)
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: read https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?lua=os.date
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: is there an inventory plugin less complicated than dinv? i just want to save eq sets and equip them and specific levels
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i manually created sets, so if i do "131set" it pulls out a bunch of stuff and wears it
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Other than making your own lua tables with eq sets, it may be worth your time to just learn dinv. 
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nogs, that's what I plan to do, just manually made aliases
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: keepin' it simple!
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: hmm thats true, i could just make aliases i guess
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: I initially made aliases, with lua tables, but they were cumbersome, tedious, and had a lot of trial & error on my part because I suck at scripting. 
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: dinv just seems really daunting to me
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Took the time to learn dinv over the last two weeks....the QOL improvement is worth the effort and time to learn it three times over.
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: and i use two computers to play, so wasnt sure how easy it is to keep dinv up to date on both
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: dinv priority create <name here>....edit the weighting of the different things you look for.  After that, just type dinv set wear <name of your priotity you used before>.  It can't get simpler than that IMHO.  This is, of course, after you do the initial build confirmation. 
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: If you have an aard of sanc, for example, you could give the weight of sanctuary effect on items to be 100 or 1000 to ensure that the aard of sanc is always worn over other float items.  
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: dinv help <priority, analyze>, etc, is very extensive.  The author went to amazing lengths to ensure everything is self-teachable/usable. 
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: arent there a million other features of dinv? if they all start disabled i guess thats fine
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: Does anyone know if Dinv covet works with rauction to?
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: when will you make the mapper read custom exits on movement?
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: huh? huh?
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: when are we getting firmclient?
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: styx: what?
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hisazul: sorry never
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushy clients only
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: so it opens doors when you walk or takes other cexits...
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I just mentioned it because its always mentioned
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: always mentioned by whom?
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: wendersnavens
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: theres no way for mapper to tell which exits have doors?
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: manually adding cexits for every door seems tedious
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the mapper isn't there to make decisions for you. if you want it to open a door, you need to say so
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: I use aliases - whenever I open a door I do mppw, mppn, mppe, etc
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: most doors can be gotten past with pass door
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: they do "mapper cexit open w<>w"
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: anyway this idea about using custom exits while walking is interesting
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: where the <> is double semi colons
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yah i have aliases to do it. but its two cexits for every door
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: how would you be able to detect if a command is a cexit or not?
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: I suppose you could make it close the door behind you and then set another cexit the other way.. but that would be interminable :)
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: no, tinypotato, the question is whether the movement command would take you to a room that has a cexit into it
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: or... you just make one key that opens in every direction... crazy
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: suppose you're behind a door and area repops. thats why ive been making 2 cexits per door
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you know open/closed doors show up on the ascii map which refreshes when the area repops
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you could just see that the door has closed and open it
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: anyway. you only need to make cexit once
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: well, I suppose sighted players could see...
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: vi players will get feedback about the door being closed when they try to walk in that direction
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i know. my question was just, if the mapper knows theres a closed door and you want to go that way, why not open it for you?
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: oh, you mean an "Other" exit in the exits field? rec
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: mis
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Gaballon: I answered that question already
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: it is kind of annoying - just a thing to slowly get rid of
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: tinypotato no, other exits are going to have to be their own thing
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the mapper isn't ever going to open doors for you without you manually setting a custom exit that opens the door because the mapper isn't there to make decisions for you about how to interact with the game
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: if opening doors has no lag, you could technically just open every direction each time you move, regardless of if there's any doors or not. Which seems a bit silly
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: I guess I'm just confused what you mean by using cexits while walking, unless you mean to replace a manually typed north with open n;n automatically
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Tinypotato: My interpretation is that if you walk 'n' and the mapper knows that the 'n' exit leads to a room that has a mapper cexit 'open n;n' then the mapper should intercept your 'n' and replace it with 'open n;n'
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: cexits to open doors just felt nweird to me in the beginning. its not a cexit to open a door in my mind. if i type west, and theres a door to the west, open the door and go west
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: exactly Fiendish, this is how CMUD handled it.
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: that sounds right to me, Gaballon - being told it's not open and then tell it to open is kind of redundant
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: you could also use it and make fake exits to rooms you teleport to... for instance in oz, you could make an up exit that goes to "oz" if you've done the goal...
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: i don't think it should be default, but if someone wanted to make an addon that checked mapper and did it or let you use a command to use the first cexit in a room that would be cool
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WREKT Anaristos Tech: Gaballon "direction" which is not NEWS is a custom exit.
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: thats just an example but yeah
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Gaballon: opening doors is one of two things. case 1) code that sees a door and decides to open it for you. 2) code that does only exactly what commands you tell it to send to go to a particular other room. I'm not in the business of making code that makes decisions for you. if you want to tell the mapper to open doors, go for it, but it's not going to just do it on its own.
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i get what youre saying, i guess i just disagree, and thats fine
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i get by with a simple trigger, if i try to go west and hit a door, it opens my last direction command
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: fiendish has limits for how much he's willing to automate parts of the game. its respectable
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nods, can see both sides of that, could see how one could interpret player making decision to open door to get from room to room and mapper would just observe and record that for future reference
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WREKT Anaristos Tech: if you don't agree then you don't understand what the word "custom" means.
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WREKT Anaristos Tech: in aard, a custom exit is an exit that is not north, south, east or west
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: doors are fun, it makes it seem like a world - but like so many other things, if you can just alias or trigger them out of existence, it starts to feel a bit pointless
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: nobody mention s&d
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WREKT Anaristos Tech: we try not to encourage botters, Cilmar8ill
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: anyway back to the original question from styx. let me think about it. I'm not completely opposed to adding cexit interception of directional walk commands, but I need to mull it over.
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: well exactly - it's like there's a constant push me pull you between trying to boil the game down to instant win and actually feeling like you're in a functioning world
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: my default answer is no, though, so if I'm not sure then I won't
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: we got pass door, which renders the whole idea at least part pointless
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you think _you_ have pass door. I have pass door equipment.
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WREKT Anaristos Tech: I don't use mush so I'll ask: isn't a custom exit just an alias for something the client executes during a walk?
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WREKT Anaristos Tech: in cmud I just alias "n" to "enter lamp" for instance for some north at some room, and that is what the client does
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: the most fun I have is when I'm wandering around and discovering things for myself (al beit very inefficiently)
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WREKT Anaristos Tech: albeit*
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: I usually think of mush cexit as like, just some arbitrary command or set of commands that can be executed in a room to get to another room
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: indeed :) *pokes Anaristos medium gentle*
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WREKT Anaristos rapidly nods twice at Amarufox, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yes amarufox's description is accurate but that extends to all exits
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: a custom exit is just an exit that isn't set for you by the gmcp data from the game
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: it was one of the huge selling features of mush for me tbh, like the first time I had cexits set up for intrigues of time past and speedwalked right into cindery village rooms without all the typing that I had previously done, wowzers
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the game world is just a collection of rooms with one-way links between them. The common link is nsewud, but of course we know that there are other kinds of links as well that don't follow grid directions (like in-room portals). room gmcp information happens to say how 'exit' from the current room to adjacent rooms. but you can tell the mapper to create a link between any two rooms or to create any different link you want between those rooms
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: an instruction :P sometimes you make it open doors, sometimes you use it to walk around things, sometimes you wave hands and drop pants
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WREKT Anaristos Tech: anything that is not NEWS
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: there is up/down :P
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: technically you can make a newsud custom exit and have it go somewhere else...
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WREKT Anaristos Tech: anything that is not NEWSUD :)
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: this whole game walks the tightrope between manual and automatic
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it's just complicated
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but like anaristos said earlier you could make an alias that captures 'n' and does whatever
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WREKT Anaristos Tech: not from the user's point of view
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WREKT Anaristos Tech: "n" or "jump_rope"
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: oh no it totally does.. like, I won't win any gquests because I don't have everything set up properly
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: I don't mind though, I'm jut not as technical as most - I just mess about and have fun :)
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: same, mush already awesome for my needs
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: mushclient android/ios port?! :>
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: port isn't possible
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it would take a complete rewrite from scratch
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: 4k vr?
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cilmarill giggles.. imagine that
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: can already mud in vr with virtual desktop or such if you wanna try
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient was unfortunately written pretty specifically for windows 98
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: hmmmmmmmm
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it's only thanks to microsoft that we're still able to use it today
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: hmm, maybe even basic mush port for android/ios would get use over others that don't seem to be getting any attention
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: seems like a lot of folks play aard occasionally on phones w/ phones being so ubiquitous nowadays
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: probably too much work to consider!
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: think at that point enchnancing existing would be more plausible
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: teppers, I'm on phone right now
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: yeah fair, I've used both blowtorch (android) and mudrammer (ios) occasionally and both work ok
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nowhere near mush capabilities though by a long shot
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: I recently had my first experience of aard on phone, mudrammer, wasn't too bad really if I'm honest. But, waaaaayyyy behind everyone on mapper and 2&d etc - in fact I couldn't even contemplate re-tiering and going into campaign mode on the phone
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: get a tiny tablet :P
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nods, I used to play aard on 10" tablet while treadmilling, grin
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: I use the beta for blowtorch?
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: I suspect if I'd never used mushclient before using the phone it would have been fine, adventuring and stuff, but now I know just how fast you can get things done using a phone for cps would be just interminable
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox rapidly nods twice at Cilmarill, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: I try to talk newer folks playing aard on phones over to aard mushclient too
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: just a way better experience, but I get it, lotta folks more comfortable on phones nowadays
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: and I'ma dinosaur :P
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: that's right
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cilmarill holds herself totally still, so Amarufox can't see her
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: I have 4 pages of bottons for getting to areas, based on the fastest routes
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: a good mapper will autocalcuate that for you
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: yes, I just copied the fastest routes from mush mapper, in buttons in blowtorch
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: fact is, most of the semi-automated, or (actually, really) automated stuff you can do detracts from the real worldiness of it all, but actually that's fine, it's fun too to optimise your technique. Just all you techy people stomp me into the ground on it :) but I'm learning!
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: I had no coding knowledge in lua, but I started learning it here, making useful aliases and triggers
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I need help from someone in a group
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: do I have to do anything or just idling in the group is fine?
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you'll have to go on a quest
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: is there a mush setting to send mush sounds to speakers instead of headphones?
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: isn't that controlled from OS settings?
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: how do i find the error line 244 in the xml? [string "Plugin: capture"]:884: 'end' expected (to close 'function' at line 244) near '<eof>'
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: on purpose, i removed the "end" from an if statement because I want to learn how to find the error
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: find the place where <script> starts and add 244 to that line number
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: or 884, maybe
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: <script> = line 402 + error 244 = 646 but the error is line 508
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: no idea..how big is the if statement you removed the if from? usually works pretty well for runtime errors
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: how do i find the error line 244 in the xl
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: whoops. didnt mean to resend that
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: the error was displayed when i was loading the plugin not during runtime
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: like a missing end is ambigious (because the interpreter might think your function's end is now the if's end
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: so now its pointing to the function that it thinks is missing the end, rather than your if
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: the function starts at 496, so adding the 244 to the start of <script> takes us well passed the plugin :/ 
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: does this mean the line #s from errors from loading a plugin dont follow the same logic as runtime errors?
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: well passed the *function, not plugin
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: i just tried testing this and the line number pointed to the correct function that wasn't being terminated correctly
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: it was the line from <script> plus the equivalent to my line 244? [string "Plugin: capture"]:884: 'end' expected (to close 'function' at line 244) near '<eof>'
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: 244 + the line number of <script> in your editor should line up with the start of the function's line number in your editor
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: so weird. is it bc i use Sublime? 496 to 510 is function, so <script> 402 + line error 244 = 646. Very confusing
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: it is line the counter for the error is ignoring certain rows above <script> when counting
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: TP, I commented out the "end" in one of fiendish's scripts and the <script> + line error message resulted in the line number for the beginning of the function that included the error.
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: so it has to do with something in your script?
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yeah. i need to figure out what is being excluded from line count
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: maybe you have multiple <script> sections or something?
T3/r7/2022-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: nope, only one <script>
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: where can I find a quest tracker ?
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adara Tech: hadar maybe
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Kroz Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm. Wiztree is considerably faster than WinDirStat at determining which files take up space on your hard drive. And when I say considerably fast, I'm talking about Formula 1 race car compared to a toddler on a tricycle.
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Case in point: Wiztree took 2.34 seconds. WinDirStat took 2m 30s.
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Anyone know where sendmail configurations/passwords are stored?  I don't even have an /etc/mail folder...
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually /etc/mail
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but then usually there are no passwords stored in sendmail
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I changed my email password...and now I don't know how to change it...it was using authentication.
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think that your email password should be same as shell password
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'm using it to send through gmail...
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: sounds like maybe user-specific mail config that'd be stored in .folders in your home directory or such
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: https://serverfault.com/questions/795542/sendmail-forwarding
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is if you use sendmail as smarthost/forwarder
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as you could also configure your .procmail IIRC
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or maybe you use email (/etc/email) ?
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Is there any way to get sendemail to spit out some information :(
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: sorry distracted and not super here, but check .sendmailrc?
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah I have no idea where to find .sendmailrc :(
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: those files are usually in your home dir (I mean starting with dot)
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just "ls -al" or use mc
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you rarely log on/modify files then "ls -altr"
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: There is a mail in that list but no more information...
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: are you sure you are using sendmail for sending mail?
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Oh I think that's a refernece to mail folder in my user irector which has sent-mail and saved-messages
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Oh yeah, I do it on the command line
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: check /var/log/maillog
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: just because you do it from cli doesn't mean sendmail is your MTA
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I mean I do it from command line and type sendmail...
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what parameters? maybe there is a path to config file
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: /var/log/mail.log just has the errors I was seeing about Authorization failing...
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: LOL it may ust be easier to go back to old password.
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also what distro? location of config files are usually specific to distro
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and no literally the command I have is echo "message" | sendmail <email>
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ubuntu
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Which means it's also probably not sendmail...
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: haha
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: most likely https://kifarunix.com/configure-sendmail-to-use-gmail-relay-on-ubuntu-18-04-debian-10-9/
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but there should be /etc/mail/authinfo
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah I got nothing there
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe you are using postfix then, https://kifarunix.com/configure-postfix-to-use-gmail-smtp-on-ubuntu-20-04/
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean  IIRC there is sendmail daemon and sendmail client
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: actually you could use strace -f to find config files 
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Hmm - I just tried to use dpkg configure postfix says it's not installed
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: dpkg --list |grep sendm
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: libmailsendmail-perl
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: libmail-sendmail-perl
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: At one time I'm pretty sure Debian was heavy on the Exim train, so assuming Ubuntu inherited that and things haven't changed...
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: would just "strace -f sendmail <args>"
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: output will be quite messy, but it will show what files are opened by process so you will be able to locate config files
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agnot Tech: My Alignment status bar isn't working in my MUSHclient - is there anything I should try besides reinstalling the plugin?
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what do you mean it's not working
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Looking at the strace - what am I looking at, all the accessing files, I don't see anything that looks to be a config file...
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: https://www.fyzix.net/index.php?title=Installing_and_Configuring_Exim4_for_Gmail_SMTP_Relay
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean maybe command sendmail just sends mail to local mail server and then it delivers mail
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agnot Tech: It seems to just sit at neutral dead center even when my alignment has been good or bad although right now, I am neutral.
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so basically you want to find out what server you use - sendmail / postfix / exim - those are most frequently used
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: telnet 127.0.0.1 25 - that should show what you use
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Hehe connection refused :(
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then dpkg --list |grep -i exim ?
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Doesn't return anything - I couldn't find an exim folder...
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: This is just odd...
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Why is there no option to say hey sendmail what are you doing!
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then "which sendmail" and check what it is (script / exe)
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: dunno, sounds like a Mael problem!
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox looks at Mael and goes "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it's in /usr/sbin/sendmail
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox screams in horror as he falls to the ground after being tipped by I heard a Ruckus.
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: may just wanna recursively fgrep through likely config locations for username used for auth or such
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Oh, if I know the email is there a way to search through files that use that?
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: dpkg -S /usr/sbin/sendmail
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: or just make amarufox your personal tech support bitch, not like he has anything better to do ;)
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: ssmtp
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: ssmtp: /usr/sbin/sendmail is what dpkg -S returns
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/202934/how-to-send-mail-to-gmail-account-using-ssmtp
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: basically /etc/ssmtp dir
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: OMG THank you!
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It wouldn't let me cd into ssmtp dir even with SUDO?  But I was able to just access /etc/ssmtp/ssmto.conf which had the file...now where the heck to save this info so I don't forget it..
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you use vi: ESC :wq
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: err
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: you mind if i ask what you guys do for a living?  don't know if that is against etiquette
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I do IT related things
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: ah
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess that is most common job amongs mud players :P
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I heard a Ruckus Tech: nope. stripper. you'd be very surprised.
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I heard a Ruckus shakes his hips up and down very fast, making his buttocks shake and jiggle.
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: basically  or folks who have played the same game for years
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: pulls out his roll of dollar bills.
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: was just wondering if you're a dev, dedicated SA, or devopsy type
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: actually network admin L2/L3, sysadmin Linux/Windows, dev OE 4GL :P
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modra Tech: I feel like a peon next to that... I'm just a campus technician. 
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: lol don't feel that way, most everyone in tech is learning regularly :)
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: ain't that the truth
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modra Tech: I have learned that I really dislike Windows...
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: had to look up 4GL... i don't blame you Modra
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I prefer Linux to Windows, also Debian-like to RH-like (mostly because you cannot easily upgrade between major releases, but then some apps just require RH)
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: hehe, yeah, I mostly use Linux at home but I do have a dual boot Windows 10 system that I fiddle with sometimes to stay up on things (and used to use it for VR before Rift->Quest 2 transition) and use VMWare workstation to fiddle around also
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: end up dealing with Windows regularly enough that I like knowing my way around
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: what are your thoughts on WSL if you're running win 10?
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: at home I switched to Debian, and I use VMs if I need Windows
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modra Tech: My husband is really into messing with Linux. I'm trying to learn it. It's a sllooowww process for me. 
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: I've heard it's came a long way, but yeah, if I want Linux I'll just use Linux (easy enough for me to do at work or at home)
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: had pretty good luck way back when with cygwin under windows too
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: fair 'nuff ... I tried to convince the company to make wsl available on workstations and ciso had kittens for some reason
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: my issue with cygwin is that its not actually linux so you can't quite run everything on it.  Nice thing about wsl is that its actually running a linux instance
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you need other system just use VM
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: but yeah... at home its mac & linux
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nods, generally for playing with any of that at home I use vmware workstation
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: yeah that works at home, and i guess depends on the job.  there's no way we get to have vmware on our desktop/workstations
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: do have an old lab server at home that I could fire up, but haven't needed that much firepower for stuff I've played with lately
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modra Tech: yeah, I don't know anything close to yall. But I can fix a chromebook blindfolded... Yay, specific knowledge!
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nods, it's hard for security tools to monitor some of that stuff that's encapsulated in a virtualized layer
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: you'd be surprised how far that can take you modra :)  i spent 7 years building a career only knowing Excel VBA
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: yup, all knowledge that can help folks solve tech problems in one way or another
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modra Tech: I think part of it, is that the school district uses windows devices and chromebooks. I could fix a lot more if the district didn't have all of its restrictions. 
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modra Tech: And I think the other reason it's so hard for me to learn linux is because I don't have a goal in it. I have no real "reason" to use it. 
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: maybe just for fun?  lots of free software you can play with under linux
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: try to get aardwolf running under linux
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: linux mint or ubuntu are pretty gentle learning curves imho
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: running this you gotta install tintin++ which throws in tmux etc..can make it as complicated as you want
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: probably others too, linux installs and basic setup is a lot cozier than it was 15 years ago
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can just run MUSH on linux
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modra Tech: that's a thing? Huh... 
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modra Tech: I'm interested in that. 
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nods, I'm running MUSH under WINE on Linux right now
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modra Tech: That might be something I try out, actually. 
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I heard a Ruckus Tech: wine's great. us mac folks us it to run Mush too
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modra Tech: I have my own pc, he has his own, and then we have a server pc we run. 
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I heard a Ruckus Tech: er use* it
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: some basic linux skills serve a person pretty well nowadays imho, even if not a linux admin, tend to still hit some *nix boxes in AWS/Azure/GCP/etc.
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: or as base layer for containerized app build deployed on k8s, etc.
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: ^^^^
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: foxes should be containerised
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: keeps them out of my pup areas
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: this sounds like fox propaganda designed to make us all foxes
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: you got any expertise with that amaru?
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modra Tech: Yall are awesome. I'm gonna see if I can get that working a little later when husband wakes up and can walk me through an inevitable messup. lol
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nods, some ker...for me, mostly supportive devs putting such things together, troubleshooting their builds, working out ci/cd pipelines, fighting with security over stuff, etc.
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: supporting*
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: all in fun, modra!  g'luck
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerthump ) linux is fun once you get over the initial barrier to entry.  you in the market for a gig by any chance?
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: in the process of migrating a number of containerized apps over to a k8s cluster (for apps we have remaining on-prem) and scootching the rest and anything fancy/new into AWS (typically serverless, but some AWS Batch stuff and the like)
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: you're doing the containerization and lambda configuration?
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://abelinc.me/cleanaws :-)
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: not directly, supporting devs who do so I gotta understand it well enough to talk to it anyways
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: we have a mash of old and new stuff, business still kinda figuring out how we're gonna work in new cloud world :)   data science evolving quickly
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cloud: other company allows you to use your data :P
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: true, but it also keeps you from having to deal with infrastructure team lol ....
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nogs, there's still some talk about how we're going to manage some of that, probably still going to maintain an on-prem copy of the data distributed through the cloud :)
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: because, well, data is our business in case of my company :)
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I find clouds pretty convenient (as admin), but pretty inconvenient (as data owner)
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: so they hired you to dig through trash cans?
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: why inconvenient as data owner?
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on which xAAS you're using as your cloud...it's easy enough to "be cloud" without the cloud provider having any access to your data at all
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: basically when you move your data to cloud you no longer own them, whether it is ok or not - it depends
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's only true for some cloud implementations
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: please elaborate
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: you could make that same argument if you're leasing servers to a datacenter though
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: we buy a LOT of data... and the licenses around that data are really specific.  cloud provider doesn't actually get access to it (though of course they can)
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: in most cases it does not really matter whether that data is in cloud or not
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but then, if one day all cloud provides decides to increase fees you can just increase your fees and pay them
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: true but that gets into the whole cloud agnostic philosphy vs vendor lockin.  plus we don't sell data so there isn't a way to pass on the cost
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerthump Tech: end up having a lot of these debates at work almost daily, apologies.  there are a lotta use cases out there for sure
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the benefit of iaas vs higher-level implementations, you can shop cloud providers and do the same thing on any of them, and your data is still yours
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: kinda cool to have all the options that we have nowadays, if a little overwhelming sometimes :)
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I am quite reluctant to cloud / virtualization / VLANs
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: all those things are really great and have their uses though
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: anyone know is there a way to tell s&d to walkto the next room match instead of runto?
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modra Tech: I have figured out what's causing the mapping issue I'm having in MUSHclient, if anyone can help me out.
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: is there a way to get dinv to dump a list of all the items it's got stored?
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: like, I'm trying to find a way to get a full char inventory of all items.
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fyzzy Xyzzy Tech: dinv search all?
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: I just found that. thanks.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: anyone else having issues with aardmud.org not resolving via dns?
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soraya Tech: hi, i'm not sure how to make a trigger to rewear my weapon when i'm disarmed! i'm using the mudrammer client
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: anyone here a Go Lang guru?
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: how can i use an alias in mush?(just got mush) i want to give PORTBAG=ID then i will use get portal PORTBAG. 
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: top bar in mush, there is a button "a" with an arrow make your alias there
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i mean it works when i simply type PORTBAG but it doesnt when i type LOOK IN PORTBAG
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: that is not an alias, you are trying to use a defined variable to to speak
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can make it an alias.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I have a very similar setup for all my bags.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hold on, I'll send you a link to the pastebin for setting it up.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: https://pastebin.com/ahqWSX9D -- Just change bag(/d) to whatever you want it to be.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And make changs accordingly.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: oh my.. Thanks!
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: this is simple port alias i used for a LONG time
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ^port (.*)$ - get "%1" "@container2",wear "%1",enter,wear "@portalwear",put "%1" "@container2"
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: Crowley, i was wondering if its possible to use your snd nx command but have it walkto instead of runto?
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: im overwhelm by the codes actually. its way easier on blowtorch.. :|
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: is xset speed <walk/run> not it?
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: does that apply to go and xcp as well?
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it's nx im interested in
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i got no idea, i dont use that setting
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: just send him a tell, hes at work atm i think
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You want xset speed walk, and it'll ignore portals.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, not sure if this is an issue on MY end, or in general. Seems like my requests that access async are not currently working. Case in point, I just did "package update check" and it returned an error saying it could not access the download page.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: most of the time when someone has a problem with the async connections it's because their firewall or ISP are doing something shady like intercepting certificates
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: That's really shady.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: odds are that fixing it universally would probably require replacing the luasocket+luaopenssl with luacurl, which is a bit of a drudge
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: fwiw package update check works for me right now
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: is it _just_ package update check that's failing? are you able to get to the version info file on github?
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: like does https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/AardwolfPackageChanges.txt load?
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'll check, but some of the others that access outside information (weather, for instance) has failed, too. Let me see if I can access the page in my browser.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, so the problem is on my end. I connect through a VPN, so it may just be that route that is causing the problems. Unresolved DNS names.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: good
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ah, okay, it WAS the VPN. Turning it off fixed it.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Wonder if it's weather-related. It was Canada-East. :p
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: if possible you should configure the VPN to only intercept specific routes
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: for instance my work vpn only adds the ability to connect to work intranet assets but doesn't interfere with external traffic
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I tend to do that, but don't think this one has that option. No split tunneling I can see, anyway, but it has been good to me otherwise.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: my _previous_ job also didn't know how to split traffic, so connecting to the vpn would disrupt zoom video chats, which was super annoying
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, joy. Considering that Zoom chats et al are more important today than it was a few years ago... I can only imagine the frustration.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: "hold on, I have to connect to the vpn, be right back"
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: such silliness
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So the VPN I currently use allows you to disable the VPN on trusted networks (e.g. home wifi), but not for trusted ip addresses.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or trusted programs, etc.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: how do we convert the MUSH mapper "mapper where" run result into individual directions? So, Run 2wu would be w;w;u
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Why would you want to do that?
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: Answer would be something like, in pseudocode, "if a[x].isInt(): [for i in range(a[x]-1): print(a[x+a])];else: print(a[x])"
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: x+1 in the first print statement but smae idea 
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The problem, Ogreskull, is that in order to display it the way he wants to display it, he would have to tinker with the mapper code or learn the function call to pull the information from the plugin. Otherwise, MUSHclient will not grab the information printed to the screen.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnifico Tech: how can I execute multiple plugin commands with delay? ( tried something like this but it doesn't work: bsp sremove all;wait(1);bsp sadd all;wait(1);bsp resume; )
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Why are you doing that anyway?
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley peers intently at Magnifico.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Removing all spells, and then adding them again?
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnifico Tech: sometimes it stop working I don't know why
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Try bsp refresh.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnifico Tech: gonna try, thanks
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: is there a way to see the scores of individual pieces of gear in a dinv snapshot?
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: i was to be able to decide if something is or isnt an upgrade without recording on a seperate location
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: want
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can use dinv compare.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You'll have to do that for each individual slot, but it does what you want.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: ty
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: is there a way to clear/delete all the F1-F12 hotkeys in the mushclient?
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Possibly by doing AcceleratorTo("F1", ""), etc.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Why do you want to do that?
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: cuz im using an autotext program to type commands in for me and I already have the F keys bounds to my MMO mouse.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Katsumoto perks up, something must have grabbed his attention.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: What's an autotext?
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: it types predefined text for me when I press a keybind
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: then i can add a target and/or press enter manually without typing the commands letter-by-letter.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: kinda sounds like how I've used autohotkey in the past
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Sounds like a fancy way of saying accelerator + alias.  
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: im not coding-savvy at all. i need GUI
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I love epanso as my autotext.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: took me a while to find a program that was easy to setup - PhraseExpress
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: is there a way to do some sort of authentication with stunnel? for whatever reason the network I'm on for the next week or so has really awful connectivity to aard, I can't connect at all although I can from my dev server. I was just going to proxy somehow.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: tracert fails at a HE port which is really weird, but I'm not surprised. we're serviced by some terrible fiber company that sells bw to small companies that set things up terribly.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: never mind, I just used an ssh tunnel.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: sounds like a good way to do it, hopefully connectivity between your PC and dev server stays ok
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: seems normal, it might time out but I can set up keepalive on the ssh server.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nods, or keepalives in mud client as you prefer
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: yeah, I have a keepalive. this connection drops but maybe the mud running through it won't let it. I hate this network.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: I'm behind like 4 routers before I even connect to their edge.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: yeah, security kiddos enjoy timeouts for seemingly inactive SSH sessions (often implemented on firewalls)
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: I like to imagine they've just got some random beater cars parked along the road in parts of town with ethernet cables running through the windows and a shitty linxsys router sitting on the dash.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: they don't even give you a real router, they've flashed all of this with OpenWRT and you don't get the admin info.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: I think I saw a South Park episode that covered some of that <3
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: there's a southpark episode for everything.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I heard a Ruckus Tech: there's a southpark episode for how there's an episode for everything
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warmonger Rezit Tech: Is there one for mudding?
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: there should be!
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: cartman would fit right in :)
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warmonger Rezit Tech: Closest one is the world of warcraft one i suppose.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: hah yeah, didn't think of that, does kinda fit :)
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I heard a Ruckus Tech: there are also a couple for trolling...which is kinda mudding
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: Cartman hasn't been on for over 1000 days :(
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I heard a Ruckus screams, "NO U!11!!" Feeling insulted, you feel an urge to retort!
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warmonger Rezit Tech: That's just wrong.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: oh wow there is a cartman here sortof?
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: do you mean to tell me trolling -isn't- really mudding? wwhat have I done with my mud life.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: After a brief pause, I heard a Ruckus gives 404 Eroe his formal nod of approval.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: woot mushclient works great on the mac with wine.  Might even be faster than on my windows machine.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nice rad :)  mush has worked great for me under wine on linux too
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: i no longer have a linux machine.  I used to have at least one for years.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: but my work has been more centered around windows and macs these days, so I haven't bothered.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: which distribution do you use?
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: just using ubuntu on the dedicated ol' lenovo 360 laptop that I use for aard
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: have used on my mint system and works fine there too
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: way back in the early days I used to maintain a mud client for linux.  But honestly it wasn't nearly the polished work of MUSHclient
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: for a while I was copying mush folder around a bit between systems (still like 2-3 months into my switch over to mushclient) and running under wine, never had a problem
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: yeah, aard mush has gotten so much tlc, wouldn't bother with anything else on pc anymore...up til a few months ago, I had used kildclient here for quite a while w/ a bunch of perl I tossed together once for spellups and such
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: did you say perl
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: I thought you were a reasonable human until just now
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: hah, I really liked coding in perl 15 years ago :)
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: same
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Eventually you move beyond human, and think in perl   :p
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: still gets the job done fast, but now I'm mostly pythonic
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: oh okay you redeemed yourself.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox wipes his brow with obvious relief.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: I'm sure that was worrying.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: my mudclient had a pipe through perl so that all IO was parsed by perl.  No need for aliases/triggers, it was all regular expression on input and output.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: it was pretty fast actually, especially on slack.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: very capable, I bet
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: my friends and I wrote elaborate state machines on it :P
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: I still like perl regexp better than python regexp, probably just cuz it got burned in my head earlier in my tech career
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox grins mischievously.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Being actual syntax in the language is handy.  Writing regexp's in strings is hell.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: yeah i liked them too, they were first-class citizens in perl
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2022-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: but the work done for aardwolf mushclient is incredible.  My hat is off to the folks that develop it and the plugins.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: when registering a new portal using mapper portal dinv portal use ID # does it require a rebuild or restart? it isnt using them 
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: not in my experience
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: hmm ok i dont wanna log out to restart and lose all these keys lol
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: you entering the id in the portal landing room?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: make sure the room id is correct for the portal destination?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: dammit talbor
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Evl )
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: need to hold it, enter, then use the command
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: i stand in the room it takes me to and in the id# spot i put the item id #
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: i use the fullportal command myself
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: hook me up leme try that
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: mapper fullportal {port 2587137929} {29364} 25
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: port is my alias for dinv
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: the last number is the level lock (the min level of the portal item)
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: thanx ill try it now
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: also check if you can use the portal you set up manually by doing "mapper portals" then click on the portal you wanna test
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: o thats a good idea
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: they all work dunno y it didnt use them for last few CPs
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: ty
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: Are you using SnD?  You might have accidentaly set speed to walk instead of run. xset speed run
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: k typed that in too we will see on next cp
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: just go to recall, type mapper goto <room of portal destination> and see if it runs there or uses your portal
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: Hi. My Aardwolf client is ready for testing. Anyone want to give it a spin?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: not too many at once :P
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I mean, Eirikb, you asked at 4:22 in the morning. Not many are online at that time.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: Hehe. Was a bit later here in Norway :)
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can send it my way. I likely won't convert, but I can take a look at it and possibly give some pointers.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: It's not for old players, it targets new players, by having a full client without needing a client installed. All you need to do is: ssh mud.eirikb.no
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, that in of itself may be too technical for a lot of players, too.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Is it a form of remote client ?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Bear in mind most of this MUD doesn't even know what ssh means, let alone how to go about connecting. ;)
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: The idea is that a lot of people have ssh installed. More so today than telnet. And it works really well
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: you're going to also have to first explain to everyone what, if any, functionalities it offers over fiendish's package and second, i have no idea who you are and why i should trust your client
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: I haven't used the aardwolfclientpackage myself so I don't know the difference. I don't know what people would like. Yes there is a level of trust. In my dream scenario it could be hosted on aardwolf - so players could do "ssh aardwolf.com"
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: well 178/242 players are using it so that's not a very good start from you
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Honestly, Eirikb, I'd personally have concerns about randomly connecting to some remote server to run a client, despite the convenience.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: That is how MUD was before right? telnet somewhere
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: I didn't know we were still living in the past
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: a damn long time ago, or if you're otherwise unable to install software
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Yes, but that's to the central server.  Players wouldn't know each other's IP addresses.  By connecting to your remote client setup, you'd have access to player's IP addresses, etc. 
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i think this sounds like a cool project and you may personally get a lot of benefit from it
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I'd like to uninstall amarufox
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: If the client was hosted on aardwolf it wouldn't be any differnce in regard to IP, users, passwords etc.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: But this is just me Eirikb, I tend to be a little cautious with digital hygiene. 
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: the amarufox plugin is buggy and keeps knocking over my trashcans
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Yes, but you're one person, and aard has been around for a long time. 
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Trust issues aside, you have given me zero reasons to look at your client over what I'm already using, which I and many people have customized extensively to suit our needs
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: does your client provide a mapper like zmud/mushclient?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: can't really see how it could over ssh
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: It is not targeted for existing players, but new players
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The biggest obstacle to overcome is that you're a relatively new player with (unfortunately) zero credibility in the eyes of the MUD. Not saying that you are malicious in any form, and I sincerely believe you have good intent. Your best option, I think, is to run it through Lasher first, and let him decide if it's something that could be of use to the MUD in general.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: if it doesn't, then your target audience will shrink to almost nothing
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Why should new players use your client over Fiendish's package?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: From an optics perspective, you're here suddenly, asking people to use your client, almost pushing for it.  If this is Among Us, your behavior is pretty sus.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anssett snickers with Katsumoto about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: could be a great way to phish for passwords
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Let's not turn into a vicious mob against him. He knows what he's up against, so the best thing we can do is offer advice to get his platform rolling.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah this seems a bit aggressive against him, imo
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: The client is open source and can be seen here: https://github.com/eirikb/ssh-mud-client 
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: the first thing I'd suggest is to not make it ssh and to enable support of what people expect as basic client features, like a mapper
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: idk, it seems like you enjoyed building the client.. why not use it for yourself? make it your "thing" and just leave a link in your description or your 'www' field in finger
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: That's a good start on the trust issue, but you still need to explain why anyone should use it over Fiendish's package because there's a lot of reasons to use Fiendish's package and I still don't know of a single reason to use yours.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: I agree with Scars.  Stick around, play a little, leave the URL to your client in your description.   And thank you for making it open source, that helps.  Any way to have people locally compile the code and run it that way? 
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Veritheia: Some people just want simplicity.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: aye fiendish has a nice package
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Haike grins evilly.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: kinda small, though..
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Am I talking to you, Crowley? No.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: you need to bring something special to outdo fiendish nice but small package
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: you don't really need to add anything special imo, but you should offer similar basic functionality
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: Maybe I should look at Fiendish's package. I run Arch Linux, so I need wine?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Doesn't matter. I'm still answering to why some people don't use Fiendish's package. :) No need to be an asshat.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I still use my zmud settings because they work, and they're actually what fiendish used for his early development when he was in imperium before porting to other clients
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Yes. Eirikb, I get the sense that you enjoy programming the client more than playing.  Is that right?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It doesn't matter what Fiendish's package brings. It doesn't matter if it is "better" or "worse". It's an option for others to be able to try out if they prefer simplicity.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: Right
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: my real point being that a client doesn't have to be better, but it can't be worse in terms of basic user functions
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Iron Duck Chuft.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: eirikb i would suggest you do run fiendish stuff for a bit, since its quite clear now you have not tried the aardwolf officially recommended client
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Eirikb: For what it's worth, making a better client also involves being a player because you'd then know what's valuable/less helpful/unneeded altogether.  
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not to mention that a client like this may be easier for people to mud at from work.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: maybe , crowley, but then it's competing with , say, tinyfugue
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: Must it be better, as long as it is very different? The convenience must mean something
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: find out what does your target audience want :D
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: It doesn't mean much at all.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: a lot of people have tinyfugue boxes which already coiver a lot of this functionality
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But again, Eirikb, send a note to Lasher. Let him know, ask for his insight, ask if he'd be willing to host it, etc. He can give the greatest feedback, and the harshest criticism.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: dont fall into the developer's trap of putting what you think is good. find out what does the target audience wants :)
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: I think being able to do this, host your client, and ssh remotely into your own server has its benefits, especially if it is simpler than running teamviewer, etc.  
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: The target audience is new players - they don't really know what they want yet
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: but they'll be constantly steered toward the official aard cleitn by helpers etc
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: And why should we point them to an inferior client if that's what you're offering?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: It's nothing like SSHing into your own server. The idea comes from ssh.chat
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: then your target audience is people ignorant and doesnt know if there's something better out there? pretty sure thats a scam in real life
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: you should really check out tinyfugue befoire you continue down the path of reinventing the wheel , imo
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Veritheia, seriously, who pissed in your Cheerios this morning? Give the guy a break and stop trying to tear him down.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so is the idea here that settings for the client aren't limited to my laptop/pc, nor do i fight with onedrive/dropbox/etc syncing?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: I'm not talking to you, Crowley.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Doesn't matter. You're being an asshat, and I will call you out on it.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: I'm asking an extremely basic question that he has yet to answer other than "it's simple" which is worth diddly squat
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No, you're being aggressive towards him because you don't like the simplicity.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: The fact that he hasn't even LOOKED at the aard mushclient package means he has failed to do even the most basic fact gathering about this project
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: It looks decent Eirikb.  Basic client based on my browsing of your github page, I guess it could work for a new player who is undecided on whether they want to stick around Aard or not.  I fear the pool of people that overlaps with (curious about Aard) and (knows ssh) is a pretty limited pool.  
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: The point is that you are bored, you stare into your terminal. You remember the old days when you could telnet somewhere to play a online game. You remember aardwolf and try that, but the interface is just too bad. Then you google, and find out there is a better option via SSH. You try it...
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: actually, kat, I'd imagine that anyone still into text gaming in 2022 is going to be tech savvy enough to know what ssh is
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: rewind for me
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: what's ssh?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the interface is just too bad?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Absolutely not, Chuft
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: which interface?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: i dont know what it is
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No, it doesn't, Veritheia. Not everyone wants fancy windows, graphical mappers, etc. But he's also just starting out. It's a NEW PROJECT. Any new project needs testers, and testers to provide feedback, not assholes who demand more for nothing.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: I have looked at the package. I have also talked to Fiendish before, he helped me with parsing of the telnet protocol. I just haven't run it
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Veritheia: Have you ever gotten a programmer's itch? Sometimes people just enjoy coding, even if it is reinventing the wheel.  
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Eirikb Tech: Maybe I should look at Fiendish's package. I run Arch Linux, so I need wine?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: So which is it - have you looked at it or have you not?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: As in look at as in run it
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Well you said "look at" in both cases so I'm asking you which one you're going to go with because you said two directly contradictory things
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so i think veritheia isn't gonna be a tester for ya eirikb
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: We're really putting on a great impression of Aardwolf as a community here gents.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Katsumoto chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Katsumoto.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yep, its not like the guy is asking for a loan to get his new SimplAaardClient company off the ground
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: aye we get it veritheia
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: chill
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: let him get more info on fiendish package, come back with a proper sales pitch & with the right supporters
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: good luck man :)
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: hey if nothing else, today i learned that windows has ssh built-in and enabled by default. wonder when that happened
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sea Zhalt Tech: Eirikb: Being a console player (Tiny Fugue) myself, I can absolutely see the usability in your client :-) My TF is too scripted and tweaked for me to leave it, though. But if I were a new player and could get all of those features with a simple PuTTY / ssh command?  Nice!! Keep up the good work!
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: if nothing lse, he'll have fun and get some programming experience
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: You would get all the TUI features over SSH. E.g., you can move around with ctrl+arrows (or vim style)
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: think he just tried to sell his product too early without a proper sales pitch, this can be solved
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: do I need a proper sales pitch to sell amarufox?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: He wasn't trying to sell his product at all. he asked for people to try it out, e.g. test it to see its functionality.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: So which one are you going with, Eirikb? You have or have not looked at Fiendish's mushclient package?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: ok i misphrased
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: He's not saying, "Hey, everyone! I wrote the best client ever! Come check it out! Get a free cup holder when you try!"
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: I have looked at the GitHub repo. But not into it. I have not run it
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Okay. So you've seen what functionalities it claims to offer. Does your client offer similar functionalities?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: well I'd try it out if I were the console playing type, and it might be handy for people trying to mud from phones, as apparently most phone clients blow goats
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Iron Duck Chuft.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: i couldnt get blowtorch to work on my tablet. had to make do with chrome remote to my main com =/
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Tintin runs on android phones/tablet
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mudrammer is barely servicable
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: It wouldn't work very well on phones. It would work well on terminals 
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I just use remote desktop to a zmud vm heh
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: yeah i gave blowtorch a serious go, never tried tintin
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: is Mudrammer the one that stops working if you change the orientation of the phone?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: got pissed off and took the easy layman way out, chrome remote to my main com
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thats the one!
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Tintin++ is pretty light for a client IIRC.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite whines pathetically about everything.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There's a new idea, Eirikb. Work on a mobile client that is functional across all platforms. :P
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: I have looked at Blightmud and Tintin. My first idea was to write a SSH multiplexer over tintin, but it didn't work very well, and there is a big aspect of security. Would need to dockerize tintin
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Do you plan to stick around to play aard Eirikb?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: I do make mobile apps at work, using Flutter. Since I'm a full time programmer. But it's much more fun with SSH mud client :)
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I have to say, Eirikb, I appreciate two things about you. One is that you've ventured into this territory of creating a MUD client. The second is how you've handled this assault against your client. Kudos to you, and stay solid.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: If you could put fiendish's package into a docker (if that's even possible), so that folks would not need to install wine separately, that would be amazing lol.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Katsumoto.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Would love a new Android client
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hell, doing that would be greatly beneficial for those who cannot even install WINE.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: or iPhone honestly
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I dunno about implementing it as a docker, but a vm implementation should be straightforward
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: me too. i want to have a client that can work on my tablet
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus agrees!
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nods, I'd use an actively developed iPhone or Android mud client
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Something with good miniwindow support would be life changing
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: if there's a android tablet compatible, easy to use client, i dont think i will ever sit in front of my com playing MUD anymore. time to play on my bed :P
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: they make laptops
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: dont have one
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Maybe Eirikb was a former player from way back when that remembered Aard and recalled the nostalgia.....and came to scratch their programming itch.....and than they met us, with our warmest of welcomes. Lol
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: That is quite spot on
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: we mostly all ignore chuft, anyways!
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: we do?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: The times, they are a changing. 
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: I was a formetr player who had no idea about the last decade's worth of client changes last year, he'll be alright
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley beams a smile at Eirikb.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox nestles cozily with Haike, sighing happily.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: I got the idea when chatting on https://ssh.chat 
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: here's your welcome back: figure out what people want, first.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: People on ssh.chat wants to chat over ssh, so perhaps people would like to play over it as well
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: great, offer your client to ssh.chat
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: I have, but they just want to chat
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: shocking
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: well I'd test it just to encourage you to keep developing..even if this isn't a ht, somthing you do later might be a lifesaver
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish once posted a video that is applicable here. Won't post it, but it's a cute song: "It's okay to not like things. It's okay, but don't be a dick about it. It's okay to not like things. Don't be a dick about the things you don't like."
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: language though
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What language?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: english
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I spik it gud!
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no cursing
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: well you're not a native speaker ;)
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There isn't cursing in there?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ? tech is not a curse chan, so yeah, no cursing here.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: The fact of the matter is, playing a MUD is very much more involved than just chatting and if you want to make a client for a MUD, you first need to understand what players want and what are some of the basic requirements for your client. You need to know and be able to provide basic functionalities that are already provided by what you're trying to compete with. In additional to just basic functionalities, you also need to look at the client that's being used by 75% of the players and provide some parallel functionalities - given that the package was put together specifically for Aard players, it's clear that those are functionalities that are in demand from a client by Aard players.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I mean, "dick" is not cursing at all. "I was dicking around at the office.", for example.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: google indicates it's vulgar slang. 
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: or you could suggest people were wankers, and the yanks wouldn't even know what it meant ;)
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, someone better tell Dick Van Dyke he's a vulgar word.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Besides, the FCC allows it on TV, too. :P
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: what, wankers? like the whole house of parliament?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's only vulgar if you are referring to the male genitalia, but we won't talk about that.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: context is pretty obvious.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's being used to refer to someone in a derogatory fashion, pretty obvious it's vulgar and cursing.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not sure why you are debating about it. try google.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: it would be dumb to bet your channel access on an imm not knowing English slang around here.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Googled 'dick' - two additional definitions: 1. A person, especially a man, regarded as mean or contemptible. 2 A fellow; a guy.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: also a private investigator
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Iron Duck Chuft.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As "don't be a dick about it" is meaning, "Don't be mean or contemptible about it", I see no problem.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: If I had a dollar for everyone who has started a MUD client around here...
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You'd have what, 10?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: wouldn't you prefer it in pounds?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: I still couldn't buy a gallon milk (thanks Biden), but I'd have a few dollars.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methyl Tech: i propose we write a program to determine the context of dick, that way this conversation makes sense here
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley cackles gleefully at Methyl.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: most people with this channel on are dicks, it comes with being a techie :P
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Iron Duck Chuft.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars stands up and says 'No personal attacks, please. Read help harassment.'
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars flashes his Channel Police badge and says "ACPD! Freeze!"
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: do not underestimate the ability of people to feel personally attacked by things not directed at their person
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well mis
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackweb Tech: I take offense at that!
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the defense rests
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I take offense to you taking offense to Scars.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: speaking of being a dick (caught up on history), it is possible to quietly think "this guy won't get very far" without a 1000 word essay on why his entire bloodline must die.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: ffs.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: hi lasher :)
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: playing with clients and scripts and whatnot is half the fun of mudding, I am sure he'll enjoy himself
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: hi Elfo not an elf.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: heh :)
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, no, Lasher. This is Aardwolf, where if you don't vocalize your extreme dislike of something, you are indicating that you are FOR the process, and the process MUST DIE before it reaches fruition. Otherwise, you are doomed. Much like the guy in front of me who ordered a subway sandwich that I didn't like, so I had to tell the entire store what a horrible person he was for not catering to MY standards.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: thank for you mansplaining the Aardwolf community to me Crowley.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: My pleasure. :D
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: I think I have reached my quota of how many people I can piss off in one session now so I'm going to start work and leave you all to debate whether "pissing off people" is appropriate tech content.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: I used to think that playing around with plugins in my zsh was so fun - now I just use fish. I can see a lot of people loving when defaults are good enough
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: playing around with fish is definitely more fun.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: well your using tech to piss people off, so i would say yes :)
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lasher waves happily.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: see ya
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: I didn't intentionally try to cause havoc. I'm still not sure where I went wrong. Could just be a tender spot
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Meanwhile, I'm over here processing patients for colonoscopies and endoscopies while testing patients for COVID and performing blood draws for research programs. *sigh*
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nah, it wasn't you that caused it, Eirik.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: i still dont know what shh is
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: People apparently fear change, even if it has nothing to do with them.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: google it, elfo
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: it means keep quiet elfo
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: shhhhh
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: Elfo do you know what telnet is? :D
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley rolls on the floor laughing at Haike's antics!
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: that horrible program i used int eh 90s?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: crowley: they're making you do blood draws? eesh
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, I literally laughed out loud at that, Haike.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: thanks! i pride myself on my sense of humor
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Anssett: We're part of a research effort to determine if we can do screening colonoscopies through blood draws by identifying key markers not present in cancer-free patients but are present in cancer patients.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: not feeling the elf love this morning :)
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: It is that horrible protocol you are now chatting over :/
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: oo
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Apparently a group in India has found a way to do that, but we're continuing the effort stateside.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: but ya why would i google something when lasher made tech chan so i dont have to? :)
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: neat. i didn't realize you were active in the research/clinical bit, thought you were "just" another tech guy in the machine haha
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: but ya seriously, i didnt know that this was/is that
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm medical records for a gastroenterologist unit, but there's a possibility I'll become the practice manager in our surgical suite as my current supervisor is leaving in a month. She put in a good word with the doctors and her boss about how I can be trusted and have quality work ethic, so...
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: grats crowley!
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methyl Tech: neat, awesome
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: If you open a terminal, such as the new Windows Terminal (form store), or PowerShell, or xterm, or Terminal on Mac. And type "ssh", you have it
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: oh cool
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, no 'grats' yet, as they may want to hire an actual nurse. I won't have my nursing license for a few years yet, after I get my bachelor in professional develeopment and advanced patient care.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: well good luck then :)
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: And if you type "ssh mud.eirikb.no" you will be able to play aardwolf there. Note as some have pointd out: I will see your IP (like the 1 billion web pages you visited today). But I can also snoop your password, but I won't because I'm a good guy
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that's gonna end well :p
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Plus, I've only been here 3 days shy of a year, but to be fair, I've also implemented several projects that have increased productivity and made lives easier, including moving from paper review of patients to electronic review of patients for procedure approval.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: iw arn you too: you will see alot of porn if you do that to me :)
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: This is how all MUD proxies work of course, if someone didn't know that. I will only see your MUD traffic. Actually I won't because of the implementaiton, but in theory
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: of  ourse prob a given as i play muds and all
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: i had no idea
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: i really not into tech, i am a retired farm hand
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: well semi
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eirikb Tech: Some MUDs support TLS, but not all. With my proxy nobody in the middle (say your ISP) could snoop the password, so in some regard it is safer. I bet a lot of players send their data plain text without realizing 
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: oh wow, see the things you learn
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: anyone using blowtorch Layout manager from blockda able to tweak it to monitor hp and moves instead of hp and mana? i think it should be easy but i know little about codes.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Anyone have any pointers to documentation on miniwindows - a how to of sorts?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: thought fiendish had some info on that on the aardmush github
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: yeah. https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Miniwindow-Basics
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Ah github, couldn't for the life of me find that lol.  Thanks
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: np, hope it helps bc i sure can't help any further than that haha
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Well, we'll find out!  lol
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: hi guys, this stuff keeps coming on. how do i switch off tags below spellups. gives this code - {affon}569,90
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: tags off, or tags spellups off
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it keeps coming on, I guess you have some plugin that turns it on
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: hmm. i tried to remove spellup plugin earlier. but lets see. thanks though
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: Does anyone else play this game using crossover? I have some questions for ya.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: what do you mean crossover?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: Codeweavers Crossover
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: I'm guessing that's a client then?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: Nope. Its for running Windows programs on Mac
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markourn Tech: oh sorry I am clueless there
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: I've briefly used it but not a ton
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: well, I can get mush to run on it, but I don't have a mapper, chat window, health bar, etc, even though they all claim to be on
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: What's your question?  May I know the answer or maybe I can help you find it online?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: Sorry, was fighting - delayed text
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: I'm wondering how to get those features on :P
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: Any other graphic issues?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: not that I know of
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: If you go to the config/settings for Crossover do you see the "Graphics" tab?
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: under the "bottle" tab there is 5 settings options for graphics stuff, but there are all greyed out
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: Hmm well I'm not sure... trying to search on google for Mushclient and Crossover
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: I think there's a setting regarding window decorations and making sure that's enabled but that's all I can find
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: is mush best on 64 bit?
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: best?
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient will always be a 32 bit executable. working on 64 bit Wine platforms is pretty new, actually.
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: I was trying to decide what bottle to use. since I found a bottle that works I'm not changing it. :P
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: if it works well then it works well
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: nod
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hopefully there's no weird performance or display problems
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: not that I can tell
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: awesome
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokus Tech: maybe not a tech question but Ive noticed the MUSH client runs really smooth when CPing in the lvl 1-20 range but at higher lvls its quite abit more lag between inputs and outputs, anyone else noticed this and is it something on my end?
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rakiso Tech: i guess your plugin does that. mushclient wouldn't be any different on cps all over
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: "Always code as if the person who ends up maintaining your code will be a violent psychopath who knows where you live"
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: got it make the code super horrible ... let me work on making mine even more worse then it is!
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so write code that will infect the computer and cause it to explode violently as a pre-emptive strike?
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars searches YouTube for video of code causing hardware explosions...
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: I like the computer code bomb idea
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariane_flight_V88
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i suppose the next level of defensive code would be to write a virus that would find its way and hijack a missile system or satellite to cause it to crash into the person maintaining the code
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: 9/11x1000
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Thanks for that nightmare fuel.
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'll start my 30-foot deep steel bunker prep now.
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Farraday cage, everything. Goodbye outside world.
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: craps I forgot the name of recent John Goodman movie about the bunker, it was good :-/
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i was thinking more along the lines of comic book villian using a virus upload to cause server room to go boom
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Girthy Redwood Tech: cloverfield lane, forget the numbers
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: 10 Cloverfield Lane.
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: just think about how a true quantum computer would destroy all cyber security measures if one were to ever come to be.
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i prefer problems that i can ignore, like climate change
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars exits the conversation.
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: fun fact: a quantum computer could locate and identify every atom in our universe by generating many simulated universes until it generated one that matches ours.
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: could it generate one where i built the quantum computer that did that?
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: we define 'fun' ever so slightly different
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: isn't 52 factorial > atoms in universe?
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: no idea.
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: but if our universe is infinite in size and matter there will be infinite near perfect copies of us on near perfect copies of earth.
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: and it only has to be near infinite for copies of us and earth to exist.
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: wiki says 52! > atoms in /observable/ universe
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: something something light something something sciencey stuff
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the universe isn't infinite in size though
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: but presumably time is, forwards and backwards.
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: why not
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: also most of the universe is empty space
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so it's virtually that there's an atomically identical creature like you sitting somewhere in the universe playing aardwolf
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokus Tech: is there a way to see your latency?
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there might be parallel universes though
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: this universe or another
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ping aardmud.org
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokus Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: whether universe is infinite is not a solved problem :P
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: 52! factorial is very interesting depiction of probability...i.e., take pack of cards shuffle etc. then realize the odds but the fact that that 1 in 52! HAS occurred
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Girthy Redwood Tech: what about jokers? and that little rules card?
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: apparently fancy fishbowl or infinite are the options per these hacks https://www.swinburne.edu.au/news/2021/08/Is-space-infinite-we-asked-5-experts/
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: havent been keeping up with latest advances but iirc as far as we can tell the universe is flat, which means it could be infinite
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: but i remember there may be some difficulty resolving if its actually flat or not within what we can actually see
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: aard is a fancy fishbowl :p
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: someday, we're gonna have kids tellin grandpa that we were so dumb we thought the universe was flat like we once thought the earth was flat
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: i believe it's like when you blow a bubble and there are multiple bubbles inside of the bubble and these bubbles within bubbles are just infinite
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: because if you keep going east you end up west
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: jokers and rules cards would make the universe explode most likely
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus nods at Scars.
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: i always wonder about that - what ideas do we firmly believe today will be absolutely dumb in 100+ years
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i can't understand how flat is logically possible assuming you start from the big bang, although it does raise the question of what would you find at the 'edge' of the expanding universe
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: i like bubbles
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: earth probably seems like an endless flat thing to an ant
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: a tim horton's, those thigns are everywhere
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: that we expect humanity to still exist? isn't the latest guesstimate of existential crisis like 30% we go extinct this century?
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: also depends on whether you define 'universe' as what came from the big bang, or whatever stuff the big bang was in before it started
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: this entry is both shorter and longer than i thought it would be: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shape_of_the_universe
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: thats why flat kinda implies infinite
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: Fun fact, there's some museum in NYC that physically maps out time since big bang. 160 feet so far, humanity is represented by a single human hair
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus grins evilly at Scars.
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: its wild to my brain to think about the reality that the sun and solar system its hurtling however millions of miles per hour through the universe revolving around whatever its revolving around, while all the stuff inside it revolves around the sun, and some of those things have thigns revolving around it, and somehow that just works
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: what if black holes contain universes and on the other side is a white whole which is what the big bang was...?
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: like.... my non-trained mind wonders why centrifical (spelling?) force doesn't just toss pluto out into the cosmos
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nifto Tech: world science festival youtube has amazing videos on this stuff. with actual scientists speaking rather than through a secondary source. my fav are the panel discussions where they debate.
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: So according to science guys, galaxies don
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: So according to science guys, galaxies d0n't contain enough matter to hold them together. So my theory for dark matter is that it's the gravitational effect from matter in the multiverse.
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i just learned that Triton, a moon for Neptune, apparently rotates around Neptune in the opposite direction of all the others moons
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: like... wut
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: one of those loner moons
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox nestles cozily with Scars, sighing happily.
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: dangit Triton is the name of a mob.
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Venus and Uranus rotate different directions than the other 6 planets and the best theory we have right now is 'something hit them!"
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so they spin a different direction themselves, but the go around the merry-go-round of the Sun the same direction
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: It was me.  I was bored waiting for quest time to come around again.
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: large objects in space, when they rotate, drag space-time with them so if you're fallin towards a planet or sun and it's spinning left-right you will gravitate to the right as you fall towards it.
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khrysis Tech: if i xset marked a room and want to change it how can i delete the old one?
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You just go to the new room and xset mark that one.
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is there useful difference between 2560x1440 and 1920x1200 monitor when working with text ?
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Depends on if you need glasses or not.
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: Since I got a 1440 ultrawide the images in my imagiation from Aard are so much better,
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right, at work I use 1920x1200 and it is much more convenient than 1920x1080, so 120 more pixels is noticeable
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but then 1920x1200 with 24" has 0.27 pixel size, 2560x1440 with 27" has 0.233
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: anytips or ideas on mapping areas through vidblain? i tried adding an exit to recall as rt vid with a wait but now its using it for another area not vid related -.-
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: so i deleted that exit but pondering what to do
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: get a trivia portal to sendhia, or get to t8 and use the imperial nation portal, or use s&d's built in vidblain functionality
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: t8!
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: snd bujilt in vid functionality ... hmm how
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: nvm got it
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: snd help is a good start 
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i used to have an alias to runto that area, then know the spot in comparinson to the blue star and it would move myself befor i knew about snd 
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: but its best to get a trivia portal for sendhia
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: my original idea was WAY worse ... 30 x 30 minus the obvious entrances, 900 freaking cexits lol but im glad u guys r here
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: the snd workaround doesn't fix mapper goto though so I recommend just getting the trivia portal
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i think it used coord command to see your location
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Simetra Tech: every time i go into a room, it says [roomchars] twice. any idea how to make it go away?
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: check tags command
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Simetra Tech: how do i turn them on or off?
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Simetra Tech: it says roomchars is 'yes' as in on. how do i turn it off?
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: help tags
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Simetra Tech: sweet. thanks, guys!
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: something bugged in my dinv/snd "you dont have that item" a portal i have for some reason isnt registering 
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: echocomm to see what it's trying to use
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: ty
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: dunno why but the code thought i had it on me and not in the portals bag i have
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Firescreek Tech: can someone help me find the big map l
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Firescreek Tech: ack..sorry. I lost the bigmap and I'm having trouble turning it on again. MUSH. :)
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: aard layout will have a restore default setting
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: you can also lock it so that it does not happen again
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: ok new issue asherodan keeps showing area info when i click on it in snd
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: with aard layout
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: is there a way to skip a wear slot when doing dinv set wear?
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: put ~ in front of the slot name and set the value to 1.00 for the level range
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: ie "~above   1.00" in your priority will disable the trivia aura
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: not sure why but before I could spam dinv consume and it would just stack them
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: now I get this Skipping request to use "heal"
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: any ideas?
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: which version is reported by dinv version
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: 2.0056
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: might also need to dinv refresh
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: sometimes there is a desync
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I refresh a lot
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: works perfectly for me
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: hmm, I dunno what I did... even if you spam it it takes them all?
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: how do I get mapper to recognize my manor for speedwalks?
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i just setup an alias that consumes X amount
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: make sure you have home mapped as a portal
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i have an alias - dinv consume big heal
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: ya me too
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: well
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: also has # and bag id
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and that just works
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: but same thing
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: mine works too, just doesn't allow me to spam it for whatever reason
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: yeah i think there is a queue blocker, it wont process multiple of the same commands
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: maybe I have this alias set up wrong or something
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: and thats why
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you don't need to tell it what bag or anything else
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: hmm, i don't?
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: dinv keeps track of all that information
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: my alias is : dinv comsume big heal
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: yep, you're right.  Thats what I was doing wrong
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: thats why there was a weird delay
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and it works, wether i'm eating pills from tao or quaffing pots from touchstone
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the whole point of using dinv is to not have to worry about where things are, dinv does the worrying for you
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: yeah you right dunno why I was specifying. 
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: Anyone know how to fix mapper running to wrong location? jotun doesn't use the proper directions at all
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: if you do mapper goto 31505 you'll see what I mean
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: you could try echocom and see what it's trying to do & maybe you can find where it's messing up
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: follow the speedwalk that it's using by walking manually room by room, then once you find the room where it messes up, do mapper purgeroom
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: it messes up immediately, it should be "run 13s2w
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: "run 13s2w open south run sd" but it's doing "run 2sd2wnw3nesd"
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: that means you need to go to 2s of recall and type mapper purgeroom
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: more like find the clan exit room and purge it. purging 2s is pointless
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: that worked, you're awesome
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: now I can probably fix a few more like that myself. Thank you kindly!
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudgewaffle Tech: I failed to mention that it was Tiny that was correct, 2s must have been broken for some reason. It fixed all of the goto's in mapper inside of Aylor
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ya know, it'd be fantastic if you could turn off password "updates" for certain sites, especially those that require authenticator OTPs to access.
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley glares at Microsoft Edge.
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: you mean the "do you want to update your saved password" prompts?
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Anssett.
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I know I can turn off asking to save the password, but that's not what I really want to do. I just don't want it asking "Do you want to update your saved password?" :p
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: ahhh hm. i feel like that should be a thing but you're glaring at edge so i'm not going to stake any reputation on it either haha
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It may be some obscure setting that isn't readily visible but is through about:config or whatever.
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anssett nods.
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Heh. iDrive (which I've used before) has a heavily discounted sale going on. 10TB of cloud storage for $3.98 for the full year. Aftwards, it's $80 a year.
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: thats not a good deal at all
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: yeah load gigs of shit on our service, then in 1 year your fucked and have to pay 80$
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Language.
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: point stands
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But it's cloud storage. You can store it locally still. You don't "lose" it. If you're not going to renew, grab it all off before the year is up.
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nifto Tech: but then you dont need the storage anyway if you have alternative ways of holding it
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: iDrive gives you the option to store locally, on wifi, or express device as well as on iDrive's servers.
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not necessarily. Even if I have alternate means of storing it, I use my personal computer for at-home work, but it's the same information I use for my work computer. Instead of toting around a USB drive, being able to access info from the cloud drive helps.
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I personally use protondrive, but I did sign up for the 10TB. :p
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: dropbox gives me enough free, I just use it
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But hey, if you have 10TB of data you want backed up, there you go. Pay $4 for the entire year, then either choose to renew ($80 isn't bad for a year, honestly), or grab it all off again.
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackweb Tech: is there a way to see where snd go command will go before i actually go?
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Dropbox has that stupid limit of 3 linked devices that I don't like. I have several devices to access cloud storage. A limit of 3 sucks.
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It... shows you the room number.
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm confused by what you mean, Blackweb.
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackweb Tech: sorry, meant the route it woud take
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the dropbox limit is new, also got irritated by that recently
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mapper where [roomid]
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackweb Tech: o nice, ty
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Redryn.
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: anyone know why snd would prioritise a campaign mob over a quest mob when i do xcp
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: isnt' xcp just for campaigns?
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brobeo Tech: xcp is x campaign.  If you want a quest mob do xq
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: it used to just select the most im`ortant thing i swear, global, quest then campaign
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: i've been using it that way for a while - did just swap to a new computer though...
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it seems my mapper is not taking into account my tier bonus for the level i can use portals. how do i fix this?
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah mapper should work fine
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: it accounts for tier bonus
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: doesnt work for me
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: most likely another problem it does account for tier bonus
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: whats the specific problem your having?
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i did mapper portal to a room in imperial and set the portal level to 85.
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it wont use the portal to get there
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Question: Did you set the level to be your level PLUS the tiers, or did you set it to the level of the portal?
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: the actual level of the portal item
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, HOW are you attempting to get there?
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, that's good, then.
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: im doing xrt imperial
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What does 'xset speed' show you?
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: run. it uses a different portal then walks
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You were on 'walk' then. So now try it.
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it wss on run. when i typed it changed to walk
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: do 'mapper portals' click the portal you wanna check
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: interesting. mapper goto works but not xrt
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What does it say when you type mapper where 16966?
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yeah mapper where and goto uses the portal. xrt doesnt
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: maybe a bad custom exit somewhere then?
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Try xset vidblain
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i deleted the portal then set the level to 1. it still wont use it
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: so its not the portal level issue
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i had vidblain nav turned on
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: is the start room accessible from the destination of the portal? is it the same room?
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: now it works once i turn vidblain to off
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i guess i want it off now that i have a vidblain portal?
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Probably. I forget.
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: ok xrt sendhian uses the port then walks there, so it all seems good for now. i guess i dunno whats going to happen next remort when im too low level to use the imperial portal
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: xset vidblain level <#> lets you set your lowest level vidblain portal so it knows whether to use the vidblain manual walk, or use the portal instead
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: ty for the help
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Anyone wanna point me to where I can fing gmcp calls for mush documented?
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: oh sorry, you meant mush - not sure specifically which part you're looking for
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Looking to get group information about the player for a plugin
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: that would be the group module in the linked page then
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: i managed to destroy my main window in the mushclient - after moving it off screen and back, it's now just an outline with no content, anyone know how to reset?
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: have you tried aard layout reset?
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: noice... that worked
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: k pls send 50000coins to Haike
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: ty
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: i joke btw, dont send me coins
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: wait, I'm not supposed to account for tier when I put in portal level am I?
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: for mapper
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the mapper does that for you
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: no
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graciella Tech: just put in actual portal level
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: just put the portals actual level
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: oh ok, I see why it was skipping the portal nm
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I assumed as much but for a second couldnt figure out why it wasn't using a portal
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but what you might want to do, and change every tier, is put a level lock on some doors so you don't use a portal that runs your through a high level BAD place
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lathrix Tech: I just installed Pwars plugins, and after install, I cannot see my clan channel output nor received messages. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: which pwars plugin?
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: join imperium instead, it fixes your clanchan problems
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lathrix Tech: I installed the manager and uhh
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lathrix Tech: Showmap, Soundpack, Winklegold SND/Spellup
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lathrix Tech: Got it sorted, I am big dumb and didnt restart the client after install.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: is there a way to if I se someting, for example      "a large club (198)", have a trig or something add a note that says exotic next to it?
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izaskun Tech: not sure what client you're using, but if you have a trigger for something like that. Just gag it and append exotic to the original string and print it out?
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: oh mush, so basically just replace the line with new line hmmf will try that thanks
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izaskun Tech: exactly, you're welcome
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: gaging & reprinting works, but colors all sucky now, tried sub didn't like me either
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: #sub worked for me, but I imagine you have something in front of 'a large club', so you'll want to do #sub {(.*a large club \(198\))} {%1 - exotic} #regex
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: k, how do you remove the failed attempts? :P
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Type #sub to see the number, then: #unsub #<number> for each one.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: nope sub still dont like me,its fine i can use the gag/reprint
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley boggles at Kerith.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You just suck at your job, Kerith. :p
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: lol i copied and pasted what you put! must just hates me i accept it
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, I was only guessing based on your lack of description on what you need. :p
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, wait, I remember now. #sub doesn't like to cross color boundaries. So, it's gonna be a different way for you.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ya i was just thinking that... plain white club sub works fine, colord stuff doesnt
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I can write something up for you, just not right now. In the middle of COVID testing patients for upcoming procedures.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: naw dont worry about it, not that big a deal, but would be curious how to overcome color issue with subs
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley smirks.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: where's the easy user button or disable mustbeaprogramer option?
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith whines pathetically about everything.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: life is a quest for self-improvement
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you lower your expectations you can sooner achieve your target :P
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: After a brief pause, Agnot gives Trachx his formal nod of approval.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish: Do I remember correctly in that utilizing TriggerStyleRuns is archaic and there's an easier way to return triggered strings with color?
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: depends where and when you need the response
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: if you're sending to a script function, the function receives the styles
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Makes sense. Kerith's upset because he wants to turn (K)(M) a large club (198) into (K)(M) a large club (198) - exotic, but you can't do that with #sub since it doesn't cross color boundaries, and I know you can do it with TSRs.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Whoops, forgot the ending $C. :p
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IAC DO Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ya basically can #sub solid strings but not color coded
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: and print blue is nasty
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: one moment
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'm sure I could change it so that it's possible to span multiple color segments
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Probably. Might need to add a "#color" argument so it recognizes that it's supposed to span the segments instead of look for just a single segment of color.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: does the exotic have to be after the level? you could put it before instead
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: before or after ya shouldnt matter
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: if you put it before then it doesn't span the color change
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, that's provided that the item you are wanting to tag with exotic is a solid color. If it's, instead, a dagger of Aardwolf, then we come across the same problem.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ok here's what I'd do...
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm guessing he is just tagging weapons with their specific damtype.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: but same problem Holy Whisper (150)  if i wanted to add-dtype/stuff or any wap
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith nods at (Aleister) Crowley.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or weapon type, or whatever.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: kerith do you use the inventory serials plugin?
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: to work around it i used gag/print but its ugly the **}Glamdursil=> (195) - Negative/Vampriric
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: don't think so
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: if i need to i can
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: no, you don't need it
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: just thinking out loud
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: I'll be your guinie pig, but i'm a mushdiot
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: anyway, if it's just the print that's ugly, use ANSI and Simulate and StylesToAnsi instead
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: oops, stylesToANSI
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: i foresee a lot of google in my future
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Simulate(stylesToANSI(your_styles_table)) 
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: probably actually Simulate(stylesToANSI(your_styles_table).."\n") 
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you'll want to require "aardwolf_colors" before doing that
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: anyway
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: do...uhh....
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: make your trigger omit, send to 14 (script after omit), and then do Simulate(stylesToANSI(TriggerStyleRuns).."\n") 
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IAC DO Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: how do i make a trigger that just makes a noise (wav file i can choose and add) that tells me when a GQ i up in my range. I did this "Global quest # * has been declared for levels *" in the trigger portion but it never works
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what is # supposed to be?
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: finger pwar he has a full sound plugin suite. can turn it on/off for a bunch of events
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you don't need to finger anyone
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the sound pack plugin is included with the aardwolf mushclient package by default
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: oh i know this one theres a button in trigges for that
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: oh awesome, do you bring it up the sameway wonder if I have two instances of it running now
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Odd. 'sptog' - [Soundpack] Error: Invalid event. Type "sptog" to see a list of events.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: in every GQ it says "Global Quest: Global quest # 9983 has been declared for levels 93 to 104 - 200 or fewer wins only." so the # is the num,ber in thatb line
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: its sptog all
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I take very little responsibility for pwar's abandoned plugin.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'd have to rewrite it.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: did i fk it up? <triggers>  <trigger   enabled="y"   group="weapons"   match="     (K) Holy Whisper (150)"   name="Mental"   omit_from_output="y"   send_to="12"   sequence="100"  >  <send>require "aardwolf_colors"Simulate(stylesToANSI(TriggerStyleRuns).."\n")</send>  </trigger></triggers>...gives [string "Trigger: mental"]:2: unfinished string near '"'
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: yeah, should be fixed in that then. :p
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I told you send to 14
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, no, that's not what I wanted, anyway. 'sptog' should show the events.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: spset shows the events
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But it's spset, not sptog.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: its spset
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: that is script
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ye
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: yeah, just the return line is wrong.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: kerith I said "script after omit"
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: hmf
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And yeah, there's a gquest_declare event that Hellion can use.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, simulate requires \\n, not \n.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: gqdeclare and qtime are only sounds i use
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: At least, from triggers/aliases.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Have to escape the 
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Have to escape the \
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Anyway, heading home from work. Enjoy.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Hellion: non-regex patterns need to have wildcards at the front and back if they don't cover the entire line
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Writing-Triggers#i-tried-making-a-trigger-but-it-isnt-firing-what-did-i-do-wrong
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: that is a beautiful URL
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: oh ok i see it script after omit on pulldown (dont have a  # option).. changed saem error
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Kerith: Change \n to \\n.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley has only had to do that a thousand times.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: lolz this crash's mush instantly after i "inv holy" hah <triggers>  <trigger   enabled="y"   group="weapons"   match="     (K) Holy Whisper (150)"   name="Mental"   omit_from_output="y"   send_to="14"   sequence="100"  >  <send>require "aardwolf_colors"Simulate(stylesToANSI(TriggerStyleRuns).."\\n")</send>  </trigger></triggers>
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: oh yeah because you're making an infinite loop
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Can any loop really be infinite?
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: teaching kerith mush seems to be :p
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: modify the output to include your "exotic" and then anchor the trigger pattern so that it doesn't match the new output
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ok added stuff before\\n (K) Holy Whisper (150)stuff (had to guess where to put it) - u da man 
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: fiend - wheres that inventory serial plugin, might look at it
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: in your plugins folder probably
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith . o O (  )
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it might even be active already and just not turned on
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: type 'inventory serials help'
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: cool does vaults and inventory, can it do bags too? or help menu?
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: idk
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: maybe?
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what's 'help menu'?
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: like inv serial ? or no args to see lits of options?
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I don't understand
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: like aard help
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: inventory serials help
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it does inventory, keyring, and vault
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: i swear i tried taht :(
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: no bags because you can't use invdata on a bag by name, only by ID number and that's horrible
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: if you want it to work for bags, request that invdata work by keyword instead of just id
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: yes that :p
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: this could be a problem finding the right one too  a Bag of Aardwolf  [many] lolz
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: restring them
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: gqjoin
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: just wanna throw some love out for the helpfile miniwindow thing in the more recent aardclient releases
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: how yall how that much screen space for all these windows
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IAC DO Fiendish beams a smile at Scars.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'm glad you like it
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the helpfil capture plugin is the culmination of all of my greatest mushclient accomplishments
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: textrect, scrollbar, ez miniwindows
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: captures
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yadarra Tech: So...how do I turn back on my double announce?  I think I broke eet...
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: omg how come triggers are so stupid sometimes?! Doesn't trigger when it comes naturally but works when i test trigger...
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yadarra Tech: You're not hidden or invis while testing?  Idk...that usually breaks it.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: im making auction tirggers. so when someone auctions something it bid,bid %4 so i get an instant appraisal.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: if trigger not work it not trigger that stupid
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: just a thought
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: it works though when i copy paste into test trigger
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: AM JOKING
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: player not stupid for trigger not work. trigger is hard.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: real talk
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what are you trying to match?
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: Auction: * is auctioning * (*, Num *)
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: oooooo
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: soooo
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: though auction triggers were illegal?
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etcha Sletch Tech: auto bids are i believe
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Selitos nods.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: ya i just want instant appraise
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: and cash register noises
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what is your trigger pattern and what line are you giving as a test?
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: im testing any auction that comes out 'Auction: Graoldan is auctioning (Burnished) diaphanous faerie wings (Level 200, Num 770)'
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: WHAT IS YOUR TRIGGER PATTERN
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: first thing I asked
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: is that the send part?
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: idk
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: probably not
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: bid
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: bid %4
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ok i'mma wing int
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: i can relax and vape for a bit *phew
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I heard a Ruckus Tech: any common reason why my SnD is suddenly having trouble with room cps?
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I heard a Ruckus Tech: I've tried xset index areas...no good
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yadarra Tech: Idunno...silly Windows is trying to upgrade me...
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I heard a Ruckus slaps a window shopper.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yadarra Tech: Hey, you said common...
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, not sure what problems you're having.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And which area.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I heard a Ruckus Tech: any room cp is just showing up with red links.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What version are you running? 5.99?
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I heard a Ruckus Tech: update says no new updates...so I assume 5.99, yep
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: h
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm... try snd reload
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I heard a Ruckus Tech: I've got a room cp now...that didn't resolve it
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Odd. I'm not sure what would cause the problem if xset index areas didn't fix it, unless the rooms you have are not mapped, but that shouldn't be the case. Only other thing I can imagine is if your mapper database is NOT named Aardwolf.db, and you changed it really recently.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I heard a Ruckus Tech: no, the really odd thing is that I can type 'mapper find' for the red linked rooms and get there that way
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I heard a Ruckus Tech: and no, I didn't rename anything
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I didn't think you had.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I heard a Ruckus rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm at a complete loss for that one. Is it ALL room links, or just some?
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I heard a Ruckus Tech: all of 'em
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: A MUSH restart doesn't solve it, either? So... very odd.
T3/r7/2022-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I heard a Ruckus Tech: oddly enough, I can even xmsearch <mobname> and see that the database knows exactly where it is...
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: Anyone here know how to code Piet?
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: anyone know why i'm getting a mapper result that says it looks like i'm blinded, norecall/noportal flags will not be added until you can see again when i'm not blinded?
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: oh looks like my mapper isn't updating in the big minimap either
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: lol just needed to 'turn it on and off again'
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok how do i get my mapper to not use the castle route to get to the goose pond. I know technically its less moves but it takes longer
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: talking about seige btw
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: set exit level lock
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: but then it won't go to the castle when i want it to?
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ahh suppose i could lock the last exit
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: any recommendation for good youtube adblocker for chrome?
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: duckduckgo privacy essentials and ublock origin
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: works well so far for me
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Noob question. Any way to snap miniwindows to a grid?
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: too much work
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: fiendish i would like to request a link on how to create a trigger for a GQ message popup
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus nods at IAC DO Fiendish.
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: is it possible to set a miniwin to a specific coordinate in the main window?
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: actually might not be too much work, but not worth the time
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Veritheia: yes with MoveWindow
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: or maybe it's WindowMove
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: something like that
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Hellion: are you still trying to play a sound?
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Miniwins already snap to each other so you could just make a grid of miniwindows, Quad :D
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: just trying to get it to recognize the line
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: miniwindows do not snap to each other
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: mine sure do or seem to
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: no they don't
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: actually yeah, just this one (that i happened to use to test) does
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I mean...a miniwindow could certainly be made to snap, but they definitely don't on their own
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it's not the world's worst idea though
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Hellion: ok but are you still just trying to play a sound?
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: because the built-in sounds plugin has that covered
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: no thats easy cause i see the build in function
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Hellion are you still having trouble?
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: ya just need the line
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: that works 
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: What are you using now?
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: verbatim "Global quest # * has been declared for levels *"
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: take out quotes but all spaces and orientation is exactly what i have
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: do this: Global Quest: The quest will start in *
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: k ill try that ty 
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: If you're not using regular expressions, your trigger line has to start from the very beginning
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: So I believe you need to add a Global Quest: to the beginning
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Veritheia: sorry, WindowPosition not WindowMove
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: which border/
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: aard theme change
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: 'aard help' is generally where I stick these undiscoverable commands
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: damn aard theme change is dope
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: frickin neon pink
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: sick
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IAC DO Fiendish smiles happily.
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Naglfar screams "YIYIYIYIYI" like Xena, Warrior Princess.
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izaskun Tech: anyone good at regex here, I'm using mudlet, and I want to parse a line such as: "Your tormenting <-*-><*><-*-> NUKES <-*-><*><-*-> a gnoll slaver! [410]"
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izaskun Tech: my regex works online, when I test it using perl syntax, but not in mudlet
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izaskun Tech: ^(Your|You) ([a-zA-Z\s]+)\W+([[:upper:]]+)\W+([a-zA-Z\s]+).*$"
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: [:upper:] is posix notation
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: maybe mudlet doesn't support it
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izaskun Tech: hmm that might be it, gonna change it around abit, thanks :)
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: maybe mudlet doesn't support it
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: oops
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exie Tech: cany one help me install crowleys ? all ive managed to do is make mush crash repeatedly 
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: did you remove the other snd?
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exie Tech: just did and the same thing happened
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exie Tech: when i try to add the plugin to mush , i get a message that says there was a problem loading the plugin, see out window for more details if that helps
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: hmmm... shows crowley as online, but may be afk
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exie Tech: -10 h
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: is there a way to make snd speed only run and not reset to walk?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: does anyone else run into this error semi-frequently - at least a few times/day? Disconnect/reconnect usually resolves, but not always. "GMCP DECODE ERROR: ...\Desktop\MUSHclient\lua\json\decode\util.lua:35: unexpected character character:"
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: no i get the invmon one
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: never saw that before until today too
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: had that once earlier
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsorovan Reyn Tech: on r2190 which should be the most up-to-date, but it's been happening for a while for me
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Girthy Redwood Tech: just fiendish ransomware, dont worry
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: thats why i play from a vm inside a vm ON my ti-83 graphing calculator
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: mad propz, h.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: what is the help file for other colours available not help color?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: help xterm?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: help xterm
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: ^([A-z]*).*: (Before) the Grand Gates of Castle Vlad-Shamir
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: what's wrong with first group?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: no $ char to indicate end of line?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: it captures before but first () is empty
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: does the mush client support A-z ? i thought it didn't
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: according to regex101 both should be captured :/ 
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: yeah, it's valid regex
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: [A-Za-z] also not work
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=regexp
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: \w is probably what you want
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: regex is not a universal thing unfortunately
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: with word /w does not work, i'll try taking first letter and matching on ending only... but maybe someone now how to fix the above as this should work! so annoying :D 
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: ^\s+(\w+)\s+\:  <- works
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: i'll try this one
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: my whole trigger for that room is this : ^\s+(\w+)\s+\:\sBefore the Grand Gates of Castle Vlad-Shamir
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: regex that is
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: what are ya'll doing on entering vlad-s ?? something shady?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: pass the mist directly
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: slim shady
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it's not real maze.. .
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: lol, this works! many thanks :D
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aoric is agreeing with that Odorless Nuanse person again...
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: any idea why my regex didn't worked?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: I have mine working but I don't use regex
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: [A-z] is not supported by the mushclient i believe
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Count Zensch nods at Evl.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: btw, tirna-nog works the same way as vlad
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: ya'll could just add an easy string to mapper notes to regex off
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: a-z works. but if you notice one thing. he doesnt have space in front that is in line before direction
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: but it's easier to put it in cexit :P
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: hmm well i couldn't get 0-9 working, so i assumed you can't use that format
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: thank you all
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: but yeah he's missing a space.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: so correct would have been: ^\s([A-z]*).*: (Before) the Grand Gates of Castle Vlad-Shamir -> and it would have worked
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and 0-9 works also
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: oh, so this was all about whitespace at the beginning of the line...
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yep
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: i have a question. after 0-9 question. wonder if anyone can help. is there anyway to split a command rather than semicolon? like get xxxx from xxxxx, hold xxxxx, enter
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you can change semicolon to something else in mushclient
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: i am using a different mud and seems like double semicolon or single as suggested in questions doesnt work
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: sorry meant mudclient.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: get * from * --> first * is %1, then 2nd * is %2 ... so on and so
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: mushclient - options - input - commands 
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: not using mushclient
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: which client you are using?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: blightmud
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: mud
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: i'm so blind... sorry
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: no worries. :D
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: yeah i thought the semicolon was more of how aardwolf interprets the split. maybe blightmud parses semicolon differently then its the clients fault. but weirdly i am able to setup aliases with the semicolons and it works that way.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: just that when i try to run the same command. it doesnt.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: so it seems blightmud does not read semicolons differently. as aliases in aardwolf works.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: i wonder is there any other characters that indicates command split?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: only 
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: only single and double semi-colon afaik
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: check if there is something about command stacking in man pages
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: ahh okay. hmm.. thanks for the hints. i shall have a look.. cheers!
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: noice ranges do work.. wonder what i did wrong apart from only reading half the doc :D
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: aardwolf has ingame command stacking with ;.. maybe your alias sends the command as is to the game and game parses it?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: yeah help pages seem to be focusing more on the rules and not the how.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: seems that this client has more commits on github than ppl using it :D 
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: newline ?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: yeah. lol. i know quite a few using it playing aardwolf..
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: not in list of "clients" command though
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: oooo.. didnt know that
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: i think its unidentified clients or unknown then.. i am definately using it now
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: it sort of treats semicolon as a command.. for example hold xxxxxxx; enter .. yields the error.. Your rance does not have a ; wear location
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Thanks for the feedback on os.date("%V"). I never saw the %U option, but found the %V option online. Strange that neither are documented in the PIL, though.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: %U is documented 
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm, I must have missed it, then.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: V is not
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: lua os.date uses strftime
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: also PIL is out of date
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure it was written for lua 5.0
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: unless you buy the print edition
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: which is...extremely...dumb
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: This is where I got the %V from: https://www.whatisthisweek.com/ - Scroll down to the Lua example. :p
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers with IAC DO Fiendish about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yeah that's written by a linux person
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Nick has the proper list here: https://www.mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?lua=os.date
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, I read over that.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: is there a way to keep xset speed to run and never walk?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just never toggle it.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you never toggle it, it'll never switch.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: I just found a solution to Google's sunsetting of its gsuite legacy product. I'm so happy.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: and google can go DIAF after this. I'm de-googling myself entirely.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: are you going to share with the rest of the class?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: sure. purelyemail.com :)
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: I've been playing around with it all day. Just moved two of my domains over.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: invitation only email?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: the webmail interface is not as slick, I guess, but everything works very well.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: invitation only email? No. what?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I went to purelyemail.com
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: oops. purelymail.com
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: my bad :)
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it says "Purely Email is an invitation only private email service"
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: sorry. Just found it today. :)
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: imap, smtp, unlimited domains
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: unlimited users
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: 10 bucks says google will send your messages directly to spam like it does with protonmail addresses
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: nope. I've been testing that too
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: google, hotmail, work, ... no issues.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: give it time probably
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: hotmail = outlook.com, o365, whatever.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: yeah, maybe. But screw 'em. I'm not gonna pay $6/mo/user for a family domain.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I definitely find protonmail users' emails stuffed directly into my gmail spam folder for no reason
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: I haven't had that problem at all.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: and lots of my friends use protonmail.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: do you see it with valid DKIM/SPF domains?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: anyway, just moved domain #2 over to purelymail and everything's working great. That plus learning about https://charm.sh made today a good day.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's $10 until they garner enough users to where they have to then raise the prices, then you're looking at $50 a year just for their basic plan... Considering it is in Beta, have to wonder when it releases out of Beta what the costs are going to be then.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: even $50/year is cheaper than the alternatives.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: and considering google apps for domains was in beta for what, a decade? I'm not too worried :)
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: gmail is probably still in beta
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: For what it's worth, Purelymail does look pretty decent. I've signed up for 2 years with Protonmail, and I've been happy with their services, but I may create an account on Purelymail anyway, hmm.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: they've got a free test period.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: no credit card needed.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: also - I got tech support responses today within 30 mins. THat's pretty impressive for a one-man shop on a weekend.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: One downside (or upside?) to Protonmail is that you need a bridge application to be able to add protonmail accounts to Outlook et al.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: they don't support imap?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: They do, but their security protocols do not allow you to do it natively. Have to bridge to do it.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: that's a nonstarter for me. My 80-year-old parents would never be able to set that crap up.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: getting them to set up IMAP application passwords is difficult enough.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The bridge application isn't horrible. It's just a bridge you install from Protonmail and then you use the information from the bridge to add it to Outlook.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: anyway - happy to be degoogling
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exie Tech: can anyone help a computer challenged person install snd ? Im on crowley's site and have the files opened but im not sure what i do next exactly
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exie Tech: that was supposed to say S&D
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Exie, I sent you a couple tells.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You might need to do 'replay' or tell -h to see them.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I can provide more information here, though.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exie Tech: it says i have no tell history to display.... i just installed updated mush so i guess it went away
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, if you quit out, it did, yes.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Side note, you never have to quit out to update MUSH (or any plugins).
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: um
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can go linkdead, but it will forcequit you after some time.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but you should definitely quit mushclient
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: which is of course not the same as quitting aardwolf
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Right, can't update mushclient without quitting MUSHclient. You just don't have to log off Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exie Tech: got it
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exie Tech: ill just go ld next time
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, first things first. Github is dumb. It adds extra stuff to 'saved' pages, even if you are saving them as xmls. So, you have to click on the green Code button and select 'Download zip file'
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the only thing stopping me from making the updater/installer detecting active MUSHclient.exe instances is that apparently that sets off even more red flags with the windows system security stuff than having an unsigned installer already does
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at IAC DO Fiendish.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exie Tech: zip file dl complete
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not worth it to get a signed installer, and not worth the hassle to deal with the red flags. Besides, it yells at you if you try to install it with MUSH running.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: All because of Dina font, usually.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: haha interesting
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Exie: The next step is to extract the files into your plugin folder of choice. I often tend to create a subfolder for the creator and extract it there.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exie Tech: where do i put this folder ? I assume it has to be with mishclient ?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Please let me know if I need to "dumb it down" a bit more. I'm not sure what level of "computer challenged" you are, but I can slow down as needed.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It does not have to be, but for consistency sake, you should. The plugin folder itself is under worlds/plugins from the root folder.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at IAC DO Fiendish.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: is there a way to differentiate between mobs saying stuff and players?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yes, mobs are supposed to use mobsay
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (Also, regarding going linkdead when closing out MUSHclient, please, please, PLEASE make sure you go linkdead in a safe room, otherwise mobs may come and kill you while you're not around)
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: do they tho? 
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: usually they do
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you find one that doesn't, report it as a bug.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exie Tech: ok... files unziped to subfolder in plugins folder .... i think :)
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But there's a specific channel for mobs, 'mobsay', that you can separate from regular say.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: mmm nice.. i might try to move that to a new window or something later
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: there are other very good technical reasons beyond just consistency why all plugins should be kept in the worlds/plugins folder and why other "required" lua scripts should be kept in the lua folder
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Awesome. The next step is to go to File -> Plugins (Or hit ctrl+shift+p) and click 'Add'. Then navigate to that folder, select the .xml file, and you should be all set.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at IAC DO Fiendish.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Evl: what client do you use?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exie Tech: thanks crowley .... looks like it worked, now i have to learn how to use it 
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: mushclient - I have removed it from comm log now (thanks) - but sometimes i like reading it while doing AQs, so want another little window for it
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Start with xhelp, Exie. :)
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Evl.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I tend to keep mobsay in the main window.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: much scrolling while doing AQs though
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Evl.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Evl: You could either add an additional tab in the communication log just for mobsay or I also have instructions on my wiki for how to (until I add a better way) have more than one comm log window
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: oh nice thanks :)
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Communication-log-window#creating-multiple-logs
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: didn't see the tabs - that's perfect actually
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: one day I'll do a better multi-window solution so that secondary windows aren't left behind by updates to the plugin
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you want to be able to switch tabs from the command line, I have a nice little alias to do so. :P
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: i want to put the spellups plugin as a tab somewhere too.. someday :)
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: https://pastebin.com/8Ppm8xRP
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: nice - my screen has 0 room left, so tabs and that is gonna be super useful
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Increase your resolution, instant room!
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: trouble is I can't see anything then XD
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I have so much room I had to fill it with a calendar that updates itself just to clear some of the empty.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: i wrote a little trigger to tell me how close i am to my max spell and eq bonuses - I wanna eventually put that in the statmon thing, but gmcp doesn't have all the info
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Now to go back to writing a paper about how the U.S Health Care system has no centralized agency, thus it's a formidable mess and prevents universal health care, and using the graviational pull of the sun to compare.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go (Aleister) Crowley!!!  Evl cheers him on.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: not sure how that applies, given the sun revolves around earth
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Mushambo: The sun's graviational pull is the centralized agency that keeps all the planets aligned and running smoothly.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: revolves? that would imply the earth is round... heretic!
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Without a centralized agency, the U.S. Health Care system is a mess, shattered and, well, a shitstorm.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But... the sun does not revolve around the earth.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: The earth actually moves 15cm further from the sun every year
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Impossible! God made everything perfect! If the sun were 10 cm closer, we would all burn! If the sun were 10 cm farther, we would all freeze!
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I heard a Ruckus eyes the demiurge suspiciously.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: You need stronger regulations, the earth is slowly ceding from the solar system
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nah, the earth is obviously in the tractor beams of some massive alien spaceship, designed to move us slowly so that we do not suspect a thing, but my tin foil hat gets receptions that no one else does, and I hear it all... ALL NIGHT LONG!
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Evl bows before (Aleister) Crowley.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley goes back to the looney bin. "They like me here, ya know? I practically run the place!"
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: At midnight, MUD time.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Mis.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WhatsApp KoopaTroopa Tech: so... updated mush client... first time in forever... whenever i try and select text in my main output i get  "Attempt to call global 'SetSelection' (a nil value)"
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WhatsApp KoopaTroopa Tech: catch is, I cant see "SetSelection" being defined anywhere in fiendish's repo
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: don't really know much about that, but http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=SetSelection
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WhatsApp KoopaTroopa Tech: thx... seems my mush may be missing a component or two... 
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: any ppals using dinv? curious what you set your stat weights to
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: me too! apparently it's a secret or nobody really knows what they're doing
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: i'm in the latter
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i am as well probably
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GabeLogan Tech: mush command to reset window sizes?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: resetaard is one of them
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GabeLogan Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's better to point to 'aard help', which has 'aard layout reset'
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: this is my error after this it will show invmon red error, which i live with cuz it doesnt do anything really https://mb.aardwolfboot.com/edexinosix
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: what does the code in checkaction look like?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: whats checkaction?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackweb Tech: anyone know where dinv data is saved locally? need to transfer to another pc
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: prob its state file
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackweb Tech: you know where I can find the state file?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: oh thats not your own plugin, it's Bal
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: mis
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: why not move the whole mushclient directory?
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The state file is within the plugins directory.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Durel wrote it so it creates its own folder in the state file.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackweb Tech: its actually not a new pc, same one, just re doing everything becasue previously it was lagging a lot.. not sure why
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackweb Tech: ty
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: \mushclient\worlds\plugins\state
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But seriously, just copy everything to a USB drive, and use it from there.
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: i think he suspects that folder so hes trying to do a "fresh" install but with old db
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: for whatever reason, prob trouble shooting the lag
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackweb Tech: yea, that worked too , just missing dinv data and pwar soundpack data
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackweb Tech: but will copy the state for dinv ty
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackweb Tech: does xset index areas reset area table in xrt 26918
T3/r7/2022-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackweb Tech: nvm not sure why, i have to reset xset mark when i transfered the snd db and it has the correct data in table
T3/r7/2022-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: can the command line in mush expand variables? like dual ffhand, if i have an offhand variable.
T3/r7/2022-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if you do it via a mushclient alias maybe
T3/r7/2022-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember ~ Noztalgia Tech: In the older Mush when I press ctrl + s, I see on screen a save message, but it doesnt show on new Mush anymore, anyway to reactivate it please ?
T3/r7/2022-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: so noztalgic
T3/r7/2022-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: (I have no idea)
T3/r7/2022-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Girthy Redwood Tech: you will see the saving icon on your cursor, little blue wheel flashes for like half a second
T3/r7/2022-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember ~ Noztalgia Tech: Ah-ha, thanks all.
T3/r7/2022-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: that "all" made me feel useful, even though it's not true at all
T3/r7/2022-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: How do you reference a regex capture whose number is greater than 10, like %12?
T3/r7/2022-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In MUSH?
T3/r7/2022-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: For those who wonder about Katsumoto's request, when using captures greater than 9, use <> to surround the number. E.g., %<10>, %<11>, %<12>, and so on.
T3/r7/2022-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I believe you can also use it named, too, so if variable 12 is gold, you could do: (?P<gold>[0-9,]+) and then use %<gold> as your target. Makes things easier so you know exactly what you're referencing.
T3/r7/2022-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: dinv wants me to wear a portal with 0 stats on it over amulet of aardwolf for some reason. how is this possible?
T3/r7/2022-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: refresh?
T3/r7/2022-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: tried refreshing and analyzing again. it wants me to wear it for a few levels then take it off. can't figure out why
T3/r7/2022-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: If it doesn't need the stats from the aardwolf one it won't prioritize it
T3/r7/2022-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: So if you're already hitting your max spellup/equip stats it won't care about it
T3/r7/2022-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: oh i am maxxed on a few stats, that must be it. thanks
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: anyone else get an error from mapper extender (pwars/winklegold) SnD plugin when the room is unmapped?  I swear it used to simple say it was unmapped but not is gives me a runtim,e error instead.
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: was just helping a booter troubleshoot something similar with pwar's snd. it started working again after manually walking into the room. dunno
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah once i map the room its fine
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: unsure what's causing it - if it's a recent change it can't be affecting pwar's :P i don't think that's changed in 20 years
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: unless it's something else from mapper or the game i guess
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: the error is Reason: Executing plugin WinkleGold_Mapper_Extender sub search_rooms [string "Plugin: WinkleGold_Mapper_Extender"]:2186: attempt to index a nil value 
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: that is a different error than what i was helping with earlier, so perhaps it's unrelated
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: I can see the code that deals with unmapped rooms, not sure why it doesn't work. elseif localRoom ~= nil and localRoom.roomid == nil then ColourNote("darkorange", "", "Not sure what room we are in, type look or move.")
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: or now i think maybe thats not it
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: nope here it is if (room == nil or room == "") then Note("map_area() error : room is not known")
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: oh well at least i don't have many unmapped rooms anymore
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thumb Wars Tech: how do i pull up the help file for hadars gold tracker?
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thumb Wars Tech: nvm
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Girthy Redwood Tech: where do you disable f1 pulling up helpfile on mush?
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: file-global settings
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: global pref
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Girthy Redwood Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: Linux networking problem if anyone can help ... switched to a ProtonVPN the other day and it seems to have changed a setting. I can log in here with Mush when VPN is off and I'm connected to my ISP directly, but nothing else. Can't even ping aardwolf. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Father Ya Yamillay Tech: Why is cmud trying to change my computer? I just rejected the option 3 times in a row before opening this window to play
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, that's vague.
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: dinv is suppossed to have some auto eq type feature? how do you get it to work?
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: if you mean automatically wear gear, you have to create a trigger or alias
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: dinv set wear <priority>
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: ok so im not sure how to use that
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: do I have to make eq sets first?
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: have to, no. it has presets
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: need to make priority sets first
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: durel has some really good documentation in the plugin
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: you can start by using the built in psi-melee priority, that's what the helpfiles say is the most complete builtin priority
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: but there's a bit of setup before that point if you haven't used that stuff yet
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: just gotta build once
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: hopefully :p
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And just have to refresh after every death.
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: man you learn that one the hard way if you use its potions management haha
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: so if I type "dinv set psi-melee" it just says invalid command and gives me the command list again
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: dinv set wear psi-melee
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: dinv set wear <priority>
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: ok well that was fun! :D
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: the help really is well done. worth reading through if you want to use dinv :P
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i have a trigger to auto-equip gear every 5 levels
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tavrin Tech: Is this the right channel to ask mushclient-related questions?
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yes
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nueve Tech: it's the only one you are likely to get an answer for those questions :P
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tavrin Tech: Is there a good way to insert a wait in a cexit?  I want to set up the death mask in Annwn.
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Well that one...why not do the goal?
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Binary Starky Tech: you can, but the goal skips that being necessary
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yes, you can add a wait(#) in your speedwalk
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Binary Starky Tech: also the wait in that room is not a consistent length, so make sure you add a few extra seconds
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mapper help exits, read 3rd commands full descriptions
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tavrin Tech: Alrighty, maybe I'll just do the goal, didn't know that was the reward, but I'm also kinda bad at area quests and goals, so...
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tavrin Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As Scars said, though, take a look at mapper help exits. You'll find exactly what you're looking for (as it'll be able to be used in other places).
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santharos Tech: Anyone ever had an issue using the search and destroy plugin where it loses a cp target? For example, it shows all 12 targets on reload, but after a cp mob kill it only shows 10.
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Are you sure it's not listing a mob twice, not sure where it's found?
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santharos Tech: pretty sure, it happens to me every cp, not just room name cps, and it's only ever one mob that gets 'lost'
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: to answer your question, i have never seen this from my S&D
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santharos Tech: ok, figured I'd ask, thanks. 
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: That happens when the room name occurs in more than one area
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santharos Tech: ahh, I'll pay attention to that next cp to see if that's my issue
T3/r7/2022-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: snd shows extra for mobs that can be found from several areas. for example sohtwo shows twice for sohtwo and soh. once you kill the mob needed your campaign window will refresh itself towards right amount of mobs
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yunalesca Tech: This might be a shot in the dark but ...
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yunalesca Tech: This might be a shot in the dark but ...
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yunalesca Tech: Anyone know how to setup a color trigger for (#00FF00) lime green for
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yunalesca Tech: a miniconsole on Mudlet
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i want to toggle show/hide the easyDIY mini window for mushclient. how do I check if the window is shown in order to choose show/hide?
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karathos Tech: maybe have a variable in the plugin to track the shown state?
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I want to make it based on study
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Miss
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: are you using the mushclient package for screen readers?
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: aard help should be what you need.
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: i am having a "you do not have that item #####" error and my speedwalk breaks, how can i find out what the item represents or where its trying to port to before running to my final destination?
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make it Reyn Tech: try turning echocommands on - "echocommands"
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: ya its on thats how i know the ####
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: but if i dont have that number ... then what was it? lol
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: its trying to go somewhere before it goes to castle vlad but i dunno where that is, though i guess I could go backwards and see
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: anyone had any issues with Mush on windows 11? i just upgraded yesterday and my mush has crashed like 5 times already
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: my mush crashes routinely on windows 10 :)
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: haven't made that upgrade myself yet, but I remember hearing someone on a channel say mush was working fine for them right after win 10 to win 11 upgrade
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Does it say anything when it crashes?
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: for mine, no, it just closes
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No one asked you, Kerith. You're a curse.
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: Not helpful, but I upgraded yesterday as well and no crashes on my end, my entire set of Win11 issues have been "The MTGA client self-updated is being wonky" but may be related to backend stuff being down for maintenance. 
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, it could depend on if you're on the Developer/Insider branch of Windows 11 or just the public version.
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: my like 10 yr old computer meets all the memory etc reqs for win 11... but doesnt have the sec stuff apparently so i cant upgrade :(
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garrot Tech: On the subject of Windows 11, what is everyones opinion of it so far? Any regrets upgrading for those who have?
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah like win 11, seems good, have no problems with mush.
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i'm running a 2500k... can't upgrade to win 11, haha. i'm pretty happy where i am though
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garrot Tech: Yeah, my PC has a CPU that is one revision earlier than the minimum so cant upgrade either.
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: so i loaded up aard on my buddies internet and now all the plugins are messed up and didnt load properly...
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: how can i fix?
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: i have no more aard layout options
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: rowley, it says nothing, program just closes. is there somewhere i can find an error message?
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: Crowley, sorry
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nah, just didn't know if it popped up anything.
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Might check event viewer, though. Might have some information. Where do you have MUSHclient installed?
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: local C drive
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: remind me, how do i open event viewer?
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: so my layout is non-existant now, how can I reload my theme and stuff? i loaded aar_no_visula and got my map back...
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: there's actually an error in event viewer but doesn't give me any readable information
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naglfar Tech: fixed it. had to add the plugins from the install folder
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: how do you copy colors in much client?
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: cltr+D
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: wtf
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ctlr+D
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeetes Tech: Is there a reason why "inertial barrier" (SN 121) reports a target of "0" instead "3" in the output of "slist"?
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: because it applies to whole group maybe?
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: yeah, gets cast on group
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: how does party shield and harmony look?
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: party sanc too
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeetes Tech: I see, thanks!
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: help slist is a helpful utility. :p
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: how do i force dinv to re-id every item? dinv refresh all just ids my inventory and not stuff in my bags
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: dinv refresh all?
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it doesnt seem like that looks at everything in my bags
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: you have to make sure you have detect invis on as well
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: is there anyway to remap an area?somehow i keep getting walking to the wrong place in aylor while doing CP
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: do any of yall do blockchain dev? 
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: is there a helpfile on what information you can grab from GMCP stamon?
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The Aardwolf Wiki has most information in the Client Protocol section.
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: http://wiki.aardwolf.com/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: to be honest, gammon has better 
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Er, but Gammon is global, not local to Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The wiki is updated by players. If there's something missing, add it.
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you were talking about protocol. it's not aard only
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Except Selitos wanted to know what information he could grab from GMCP statmon...
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Which is listed under Client Protocols on the Aard wiki, followed by the GMCP link.
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: in that you are correct. aard wiki is best place to get that info
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, I know. That's why I answered it in that fashion. :P
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yeah, just pointed out that while talking about protocol, original source is better
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldwins Tech: anyone know a MCCP proxy I could use for linux?
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldwins Tech: i use debian btw
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: my mushclient seems to have gotten into a weird state. Any idea where the function strip_colours comes from? I'm getting errors all over the place
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: eh, ignore that - i'm going to try to just upgrade mushclient and hope it magically fixes itself
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: its a suckers' bet.  upgrading just introduces new bugs you dont have a workaround for yet.
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: thats why im still using a beta version of firefox :p
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: haha true
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: aardwolf_colors.lua should have strip colours
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: well this seems like a problem. Here is the entire contents of that file:
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: dofile(GetInfo(60).."aardwolf_colors.lua")
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i see strip_colors in Aardwolf_Chat_Capture_Miniwindow 
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: hmm, the classic recursive include file - been a while since ive seen that one.
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i wonder if thats how my classmate crashed the cs server that time ... surely not, i mean even an older gcc should be smart enough not to fall for that one...
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: that seems to be a relatively new file - or at the very least, wahtever version i had in november didn't have that file at all
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: see? see what upgrading gets you?
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i've been such a fool
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: what the heck... in the repo, that's all that's in the file too. so i guess that's all that's supposed to be there? but how does that actually work
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: seems to me that a file that does nothing but include itself _doesnt_ work. maybe its a placeholder for future development? are you looking at a production release, or like a nightly beta kind of thing?
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i just tried to upgrade to the 2190 snapshot from here and have the same issue: https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i was looking at the file int he repo here: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/lua/aardwolf_colors.lua which hasn't been touched in 1.5 years
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: will have to a problem for later
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: well that looks like it should be the real deal.  maybe send a note to fiendish? hes usually pretty happy to deal with mushclient stuff.
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: there are two aardwolf_colors.lua in the repo, are you looking at the right one? https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/worlds/plugins/aardwolf_colors.lua
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: hm, my issue may not be 
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: oops
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: wow, i figured out my problem. but it was really weird
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i had installed another plugin in a different folder. for some reason, it made this line look in the wrong location for the aardwolf_colors script: scan_dir_for_file (GetInfo(60), "aardwolf_colors.lua")
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: when i moved that other script to the main plugin directory, everything worked again
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: durel here?
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: He hasn't been on in a few days, some RL stuff
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khrysis Tech: whats correct to make script check if i am wearing an object with a certain id number?
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: help invdata / eqdata
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: ok, nerds: what are the cool kids using as a resume format these days? Mine is currently in LaTeX.
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: online resume generator I suppose
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: hrm.
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but then considering LaTeX if you add to that C++ / Java / admin skill format should not really matter
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: Just looking at the pics here https://www.latextemplates.com/cat/curricula-vitae, (note they these formats arnt specific to just latex) as a hiring manager I would prefer cies, modern, awesome, medium, or long styles.
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: I created my own template.
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: same, important part is clean, and readable.
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: mine is most like Cies, I guess
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: i would recommend against a summary or goal section tho, can limit/exclude you from jobs
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: unless you are short on exp
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: I'm 25 years in, so... no lack of exp.
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is not that "
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is not that "Twenty Seconds Resume/CV" better choice? I mean that "Skills part" with stars / progress bar is quite readable for non-tech recruiter
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: I like having a 4-line summary of my expertise. The details can get lost in the list.
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: basically one pager for recruiter + extra description for potential employer
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: those bars have no gauge of good or bad or level, you can make assumptions, the multiple fonts/shading are a distraction
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: 2 pages for me. I can't summarize any more.
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: at the end of the day just make sure all the info is relevant and choose what you feel is right
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: the only "formatting" I have is highlighting of key phrases/accomplishments in each job in the history.
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: the only recommendation about length i'll make is i suggest you keep a "full" resume with everything on it, but for most jobs submit only a 2pager. unless asked for more
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: 2 pages. If they want more details they can email/call :)
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: yeah, I keep my resume short and sweet, even added color <3
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: I perfume-scent mine. It gives it that something special, dontcha think?
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: kerith too busy mudding to look through more than first page anyways
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith giggles.
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: a very light but classy scent could be distinguishing!
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: scents are hard, as everyone has different preferences, what you like or think smells good, others could find offensive
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right, better attach $50 note to it :P
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: probably better than the default techie smells of pizza and beer, ya know?
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox grins mischievously.
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: if resumes smelled like pizza and beer i'd switch to being a recruiter
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: "quit licking the resumes, kerith"
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fyzzy Xyzzy Tech: you could put your resume in an envelope with a bunch of glitter... really show some panash.
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox flashes a mischievous grin at Fyzzy Xyzzy.  Hmm. is it time to run and hide?
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i would like to ask if you or gammon can change the way input bar works.  I would like to have it moved about, and be able to resize, like output windows.
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it automatically resizes as needed
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: if it can be moved. that would be a good feature i think
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: moved where?
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: is right click the only way to change options for windows? like stats window and hp bars?
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Gaballon: yes
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: makes it hard to change options on my tablet
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: does it?
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: why is that?
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it doesnt seem to want to use touch right click
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: 2 fingers for right click?
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: on my surface long press is supposed to be right click, but doesnt work in mush for some reason
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what version of windows?
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: win11 on surface 7 pro
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: so, right click does work in the client, but not on the windows
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrah Tech: anyone know where to adjust screen reader settings in Mushclient? Not finding it in menubars
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yikes. windows 11 removed the tablet mode toggle...
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: what screen reader settings?
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrah Tech: speaking text when not focused on mushclient window
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: don't think this sp supports that. it's usually ftts in most other places.
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Indrah: do you want it to speak when not focused or not want it to speak when not focused?
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrah Tech: not speak when not focused
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrah Tech: I remember seeing the option somewhere...
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Ok. Give me a few minutes to see what I can do.
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrah Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Indrah: type TTS focus
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: does that do it?
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indrah Tech: yes, thanks Fiendish! 
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: awesome. For future reference, type TTS help
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: WTB a remove dupes command from keyring ty
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: theres a plugin for that
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: not dinv right?
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: mm i saw it somewhere but forget shere
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hellion :(
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zathrus Tech: l33t aardwolf plugins?
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: heres some free advice....do not add keys you don't need to your keyring  :)
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: but they drop at diff levels and i dont know if they r the same cuz they dont stack when diff lvls :(
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i only ever add a key if i get to a door and can't open it.....if i have to get the key then i add it to my keyring, if i don't then it means i don't need a key or i already have it...simple
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: Updated wine on linux and now mushclient is laggy as hell with max CPU usage :(
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rakiso comforts Pumpkin.
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: oh looks like it was a problem with the nvidia driver
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: cause mush is soo graphic intensive? :P
T3/r7/2022-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: worse then minecraft
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: where should i download mushclient from?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: from fiendish github or gammon?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: would go with fiendish's github
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: great thanks!
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: cheers, mush is great!
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delight Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/index.htm
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delight Tech: its the 2nd link
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: yeah, im using android now.. :|
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: oh man, that'll be a huge upgrade...I'm glad you can make the move from phone to pc :)   I like playing on my phone once in a while for questing or light pupping, but for anything serious on the pc
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i just got a surface pro 7. i hope it will be a better experience than my mobile.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox rapidly nods twice at Deswrath, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: is it possible to play without a key board, just using the windows tablet....
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i play on my surface a lot
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: without a key board?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: with the touch keyboard
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: the on screen buttons on blowtorch is pretty nic i find it.. 
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: ah cool.. thanks for sharing
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: always good to customize buttons
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: only thing i don't like is that the triggers are way too basic beyond the simplest tasks.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: for android?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: ya
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: the main problem is the screen is way too small.. haha
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: for me
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: I like keyboard for macros!
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: lots of typos
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i feel the same on tablet vs desktop
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: unless you swipe text
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: swipe text in mudrammer isn't bad, I like that better for pupping than blowtorch buttons, hehe
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: ymmv
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: mushclient is the best. never gonna give us up or let us down...
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox rapidly nods twice at Khonshu, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: but its playable on mobile at least
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: there are apps to telnet on mobile. I think in hell you have to play aard on mobile using telnet
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: im waiting for the brain impant that lets me think words instead of typing
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: how do you move around using the touch key board? the kb is taking up a huge screen space isnt it?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: bluetooth numpad ftw :)
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: good point
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i type n,s,e,w,etc
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox gasps as he realizes what Gaballon did.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: im using s&d most of the time anyways
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nogs, helps :)  meh, I think it would drive me nuts typing in directions manually instead of numpadding
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: once my mind switched for that, hard to go back I guess
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i dunno its not terrible. left hand types letter and right thumb presses enter
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: i sometimes look up where I'm going...most of the time as long as I'm invisible i can run 2e3n for example
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: does mush have on screen buttons like blowtorch?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: naw
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: keypad is def better for sure, but touch is doable and can be done from bed or the couch
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: i think blowtorch could really be a lot better if you could easily import triggers from other clients
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: comparing mushclient to blowtorch...
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i do like the convienence of playing even while im in the toilet...
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: is like comparing a carnival port a potty to a bathroom in a 5 star restaraunt
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: nod khonshu
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: ugh auto correct
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: maybe if you weren't typing on the toilet, wouldda caught the autocorrect! <3
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: oh i recommend you turn that off. it will mess up a lot of your commands lol
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Deswrath falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: the plugins set mushclient apart more than anything else
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: yeah, snd plugin is gamechanger for campaigning and gq's and even just easy questing
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: (alongside mush's built-in mapper, that is)
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yah the mapper is insane. snd wouldnt be anything without it
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: there's no way I couldda completed 84 campaigns today in a mud client without a mapper
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: it says a lot about aard when you think about the time dedicated to improving the experience, making it more easily accessible, and providing documentation such as maps and searchable eq.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox is agreeing with that Khonshu person again...
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: yah, I switched to mush like 3 or 4 months back and very glad I did
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: heh I'm working on my 4th campaign today
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: but no mapper.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: yah, it takes a bit to build up mapper db running around and building up custom exits so you don't hafta type every time in the future
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: well worth it, the first time you blast through an area like 4 levels of portals in an area like intrigues of times past to get to your quest mob instead of having to navigate all that directly, type enter whatever, probably get aggroed cuz moving slower, etc.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: save your fingers!
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jolo Tech: man, i wish i could see the map using mush pack and go to places quicker
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jolo Tech: if it a thing anyway
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: do you mean like using: mapper goto <room_id>?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jolo Tech: yep
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jolo Tech: i even don't know what is room id
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean you want to get room id? like in "mapper find crystal hall"
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: somehow my mushclient miniwindows got locked. any idea to unlock them so i can move them?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: aard help
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: sure thing
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: anyone an expert with ext4 and linux? - I'm having some drive issues unrelated to aard that have chipped massively into my aard time - so... kinda related... in a sort of convoluted way?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: not expert at all but whats the issue?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: I'm missing a terabyte of space
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: what have you done already to try and find the problem
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: check partitions?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: du and df disagree by 1tb - it's on a mounted raid drive, i've unmounted it, run fsck with -D and -p, followed just about every stack overflow thing i could find
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: you should be able to list your partitions on the disk? how big was the expected disk size?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: so drive is 7.24tb, du says i'm using 5.4tb, df says i'm using 6.5tb
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: it's a raid drive with three disks at ~3.5tb each
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: have you tried lsblk ? seems to show all
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: um partitions may have a restore partition
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: thats true. and it takes quite some space too
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tial Tech: Google "du df differences"
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: so it's not techincally linux, it's a QNAP drive runinng some flavour of linux that's limited
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: my dell has windows 10 and the driver for the dell stuff
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: Tial - yeah I spent the day trying all of the things i could find
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: du just shows the disk usage.. but if its partition.. it doesnt show the full disk size.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: I know they show different things, but 1tb is a bit too much to explain
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: and if i am using that extra tb, i wanna know what i can delete
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: its normal for DF to be larger than DU
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: yes, but by 1/7th of the total available space?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: also when I format my 500 gb ssd it sais 475 gb total
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: check and see if you have the option with DU to count the sparse blocks
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: if you can see what it reports back
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tial Tech: This may be helpful (or not): https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/120312/396814
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: format will not always give you the full disk space when you run du to check. if you are using linux as your host system.. you can maybe see how your disk is formatted and partitioned. qnap might some quirks on its formatting, assuming you used qnaps ui to prepare the disk
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: I did try to look at --apparent-size and added -L to du to see what popped up... nothing changed - (might try du --block-size=1 f )
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: it's not something stupid like one of them reports in bits and the other in bytes is it?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: nah math doesn't work
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: use -h flag in du to show? its probably easier to see.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tial Tech: math always work (if you use the right formula and numbers).
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: true true
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: those links are useful, a few more things to try
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: thanks - i'll give it a go tomorrow, my brain has just melted today
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: i'd be surprised if it need a tb for metadata
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: i tried to see if there was files already on the mount location and checked running processes with deleted files, but no luck ther either
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you restarted it?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: yeah... many times
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you use thin provisioning ?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: no it's thiccc
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that could explain diff between du and df
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: i don't really know the difference, so didn't want to change that
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: can you check output of pvdisplay and lvdisplay ?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also gparted
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: gparted will show partitions, then you will know what size is avail to linux
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: if qnap has those installed - i'll give it a go
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also there is usually some space reserved for root user, like 10% or so
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: more like 5%, you can change it with tune2fs
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: 10% could explain it
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also ext4 is journaling file system, so some space is reserved for journal (IIRC also tunable)
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: will that all show up on pvdisplay and lvdisplay?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also 3 drives in RAID-5 with 3.5 is more like 6.4 (2/3 of total capacity)
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: pvdisplay and lvdisplay are lvm related
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: 2/3 of 3 * 3.5 is 7ish
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: err, you are right, 7
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: they're a bit over 3.5, so it reports as having 7.2 / 7.1
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: depending on if you lok at the volume size or the disk capacity
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: gparted or fdisk - that will show how big are those drives to linux
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: but everyone knows the real OS here is freedos.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then if there is lvm layer - pvdisplay will show how big volumes are created out of disk space
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: lvdisplay will show logical volumes created in pv volumes
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I am not sure whether qnap uses hardware raid or software one
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: i think i had a choice... do not remember either
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: main difference is that with hardware one - system sees single device like /dev/sda, /dev/hda
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: with software one - there will be /dev/sda, /dev/sdb/, /dev/sdc drives and on top of that raid drive (/dev/mdX or something like that)
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: PV size 7.26 TiB / not usable 4.38MB
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: err main difference when you use commands to check avail drives, hardware and software raids have more differences (not important for this case)
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: lv much longer, what should i check?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: LV size is 7.22 TiB
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: but weirdly two logical volumes
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: with same size tp1 and /dev/vg1/lv1
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: /sbin/lvdisplay  |grep "ath\|ize"
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway 7.22 seems to be quite close to that full capacite you were expected to see with RAID 5
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: df -h will show human readable output of df
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however, if you have a lot of small files - then quite likely you have too big block/cluster size
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: fdisk says "Disk /dev/mapper/cachedev1: 7942.5 GB, xxxx bytes
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: I don't think fdisk is going to report those properly.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: inode usage is like 5%
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: basically if you have cluster size 4096M - that means whether you put 10k file into it or 4096M - it will occupy 4096M
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: oh ok yeah makes sense
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: err, but then du should be smart and report real file usage
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: lemme check that command i found
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right you have given numbers before: du = 5.4tb used,  df = 6.5tb used
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: yup
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: most likely that diff is because of a lot of small files
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: like a bunch of stupid generated thumbnails?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: du shows actual file size, df shows file size in terms of the blocks used. a file can expand across multiple blocks but you can only have one file per.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: lots of small files on larger blocks means that even if those files are 1k they'll take up more space on the drive itself.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: yeah i think running block-size=1 is showing a bit more, just have to do the math on the output :(
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: You could also just script it. there might be a linuxy solution but I'd just write something in python to take a block size and return a percentage of files under that cap so you can balance or figure out what to do
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: 5898098520064 (is the amount it's telling me)
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check your block size (just put proper device name): /sbin/tune2fs -l /dev/mapper/nvme_crypt | grep -i 'block size'
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: 4096
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: i assume bytes
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: yeah the block-size=1 gives the same number ~5.4Tb (I just wanted to check because of https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5694741/why-is-the-output-of-du-often-so-different-from-du-b)
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think you now need to find some tool that will show how many bytes are wasted because of 4096 block size
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: i think du is accounting for it on this output
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: but the result is still below 6tb
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: because many files are 4096 exactly
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: and dividing the output by a trillion gets 5.8.. (too lazy to divide by all those 1024s)
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: it's probably the thick partitioning
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that link you've pasted is quite nice, "du --block-size=1"   and "du --block-size=1 --apparent-size"
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: one should show real disk usage, another just size of files
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: yeah both sub 6tb
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: does tune2fs report on the set values or just sets them
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: ?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: "-l" will just report
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however you can change only max check count and % reserved foru root
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and check interval
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: reserved is only 512mb i think
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: hmmm tune2fs agrees with df
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: 600gb free
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also if you consider changing block size, then you need verify whether your drive is 512 or 4K
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: that I don't know, but i don't really think it's the block size that's an issue - this is a server for files generally around a gig each
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: there may be a few million files less than 4096 bytes, but what's that, like 4-20gig wasted space?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: not really in the same ballpark of a tb
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: you can tell by my lazy english that my brain is slosh rn :D
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: thanks for the help though, ruled out a few things / stuff i can add to my stack overflow post i might write tomorrow ^.^
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: with 4096 file --> if file size = 1 then used space = 4096,  if file size = 8000 then used space = 8192
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so not just files smaller than 4096, but all files where (file size modulo 4096) <> 0
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: mmm i wish i had the output of fsck on hand - we could work out the maximum wasted space
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: anyway, thanks for the help everyone, got some things to check out of it at least :)
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: is there anyway to not see the prompt for the consider plugin
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: why is the comparison feature in ppt such garbage
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: comparison of what to what?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: new toggle command in r2194 'aard sounds in background' to dis/enable mushclient sounds while the client is backgrounded
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ooh.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it came up on newbie last night and I noticed once again that the soundpack plugin was written by someone other than myself
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: sad note: the toggle does not appear to work in Wine
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but blind players likely won't be using wine anyway because it's shit for TTS
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, Fiendish, maybe you're able to help with this one. I have a trigger that turns: (M)(G)(H) into [MGH] (and so on for all flags). Usually, it works. It's based off getting the information from TriggerStyleRuns and just taking out the parentheses. However, occasionally an item name will match the color of the last flag and it'll be eaten by the trigger, turning: (M)(G)(H) Frostbound Key (180) into [MGH] tbound Key (180). How can I get it where TSR separates the flags from the item name if they are matching in color?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'll pastebin the code so you can see what it's doing, hold on.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: is this in a plugin?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No, it's a trigger. https://pastebin.com/R0DVKmQx
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (Part of three triggers, using inventory flags as the enabler)
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'd have to think more for a _better_ answer, but off the top of my head you could feed the length of text in the matching wildcard into TruncateStyles
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: (from aardwolf_colors.lua)
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm. I'll look into that, then.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: TruncateStyles is like substring but for style runs
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: where can i find the xml/db file that stores info on what an item ID is, I am looking for clues to help fix a run my xcp is doing for peninsula. Either I sold the portal, lost,sacced,dropped or w.e but I need to know what its trying to use, so i can get another.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: and echo is only showing item id which means almost nothing -.-
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hellion: You can try 'mapper where <roomid>' and see what path it spits out at you. Then you can see where the error is by following it step-by-step.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If it /is/ a portal, you can type 'mapper portals' to see where it goes.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: the error is "you dont have #id" 
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: i did mapper portals but they dont have ids in that menu
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Here's a better thought.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: unless i missed something
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: oh no dinv portal and mapper portal diff
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Manually run to peninsula (go to recall, type 'runto peninsula'. Then walk that path backwards and see what area it lands you in.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: ya that would work too but ur mapper portal thing is perfect
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: ty
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Then you can do: 'mapper portals <area>' and delete the portal there.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's 'perfect' if you only have a handful of areas. Otherwise, if you have 100 portals, it makes it a hassle to find it. Thankfully, there is 'Ctrl+u', which you can use to recall lines in the buffer, so you can search for text in your buffer history quite easily.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley uses 'Recall text' feature quite a bit.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: ty for the help i fixed it, read the echo for the id its trying to use, hovered over portals in 'mapper portals' and it match i fixed it, delete and make new portal connection
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: anyone familiar with audio engineering stuff feel like explaining x/y mic placement to me? everything I find is a picture which is kind of annoying. is it just using a pair one angled right on the x and one angled from above/below?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hmm 2194 is not a good update
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: something newer out soon
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, FXSound Pro (previously a subscription service) is now 100% free. It boosts the sound output from your computer, and is pretty nifty.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: seems bad for your speakers?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: it is :P
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Depends, I suppose, on your speakers in general.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: almost always bad
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: also making that a subscription service is some bonkers modern capitalism shit
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at IAC DO Fiendish.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I agree with that, honestly.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: r2198 building now. hopefully fixes all the badness from 2194
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: good time to upgrade? I am still on 2190
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Girthy Redwood Tech: im still on a 1660 super
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Girthy Redwood Tech: runs everything fine
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ha, have to wait. Even though package update check shows 2198, download button shows 2194. *shifty*
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There we go.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: raki, does ur verson have window tabs? it's a gamechanger
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm, can't even run it. Not sure what changed, but Windows 10 prevents me from running it with no option to 'Run anyway.' Odd.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, now I can. Had to unblock it. Silly.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: whats a good plugin for dmg stats, I wanna fight barney and track stuff over a decent enough period of time
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can use dtrack for that.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: ty! ill google that now
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Can even use dtrack hits for more information.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No, don't google it. It's a MUD command.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: o 
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Type 'dtrack' and 'dtrack hits'.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: holy moly its a new world
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: ok so I've been having to restart mush about every 30 minutes since I started using dinv. sometimes more often. any insight on this? 
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Stop using dinv =P
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What is causing you to have to restart?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or what are the reasons you have to restart?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: the client stops allowing any input text wise. sometimes while playing it, but often ill just switch to another app for a minute, come back and its frozen. so I save the world details and restart so I dont lose anything. but I can still interact with the client, just not type any text.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Very odd. Are you sure it's only DINV that's doing that? What version of MUSH are you on? (checkversion)
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: version r2154
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: never had this issue before dinv, thats why I am assuming its related
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's possible. Uninstall DINV (as Frostbite suggested) and see if you continue to have the problem. I've never had that problem myself, and I've been using it for years now, and you're the first I've heard of having the issue.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, can't believe I just told you to follow Frostbite's suggestion. The world is ending.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: That explains the pig I just saw soar past the window...
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rakiso Tech: ronin do you use mush on windows or wine? some ppl had issues with state plugins when they were using them on wine
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: on crossover
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: I use wine and have no issues with state files.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ah, that may be the issue, then.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Though it really shouldn't be.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: blame it on the Mac! h8rs.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Roninleader, do you have dinv refresh set to eager?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Just to clarify, does the input bar not allow you to type in it, or is the text you type and send to the game ignored.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: it does not allow me to type in the bar
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: how to I tell with dinv refresh is set to?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Don't see why that would be related to DINV.  Occasionally DINV failing to save its state file will highjack input text until you reload it.  But I've never seen it freeze out the input bar entirely
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ronin, you can type 'dinv refresh off' to make sure.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Heracles: Only reason I asked about refresh rate is if the MUD didn't send a closing tag for refresh to terminate for some reason, it would make it look like the screen was frozen. But since it's input-bar related, probably not it.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I've had it "freeze" on me when I did not receive a terminal message for some of my scripts. It was still running, and accepted commands, but it was "gagging" everything.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Nod.  That's basically what happens when DINV tries to backup but doesn't receive the response it needs to finish.  Nothing you send to the game registers until you reload dinv.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: so now that refresh is off, I should just manually refresh on occassion? this might actually be better
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: yeah, I just refresh manually.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Since it's not writing to the database so much, might even solve your problem.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: Well that might be the issue. It really did not like when I tried to relog into the game during laser. like it had no idea what to do with the input it was getting. :P
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Does a timer than is toggled from disabled to enabled start its timer over from the original time or does it need to be reset?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It resets it, apparently.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Can you call a function from inside a function?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Depends... what'chu talkin 'bout Willis?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can, yes.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: wanna provide context or are you happy with a tentative yes?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No, it's a definitive yes. :p
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hell, you can call the same function within the function.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Thank you =D
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: funception?
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Besides, what do you think print() is? It's a function, and you call that function a lot within a function.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Of course, if you do a recusrive function, you better make sure you can terminate it, otherwise it'll lock up the code indefinitely.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I didn't know how deep the weeds were... we talking threaded development, recursive functions... I have so many questions from his question =P
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Honestly, my troll senses were tingling!
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox aims the Whack-a-Troll machine at Fatal FrostBite...you pity him.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: unless the function is out of scope >.> ...... 
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: ..... <.<
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: (it's a good thing everyone has moved on and not noticed that i'm a trouble maker)
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: common tech knowledge!
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox nestles cozily with Evl, sighing happily.
T3/r7/2022-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: -tech*
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jolo Tech: can't any mush dev edit the output pluggin so that i can read message in output without having to switch windows twice?
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jolo Tech: anyone monitoring using mush boy?
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: No idea what that is
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jolo Tech: er, mush client, 
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Most of us probably
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jolo Tech: how to make timers
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Shift Ctrl 0
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jolo Tech: not working
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porcius Tech: Game -> Configure -> Timers
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jolo Tech: don't understand
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porcius Tech: At the top left corner of your client you have: File Edit View etc. Click the one named 'Game', hover to 'Configure' and choose 'Timers'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jolo Tech: i need someone ti explain to me more, what do i have to do at the timers menu
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: We need for you to explain more what you are attempting to do.
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jolo Tech: i need to set something to be done every tick  so that i don't get disconnected
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Instead of using timers, you can use triggers, then.
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There is a message that will fire a few minutes before you get disconnected. "Your eyes glaze over." -- If you trigger on that message to send something, you will never be disconnected.
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jolo Tech: how to know how to go from map a to map b
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: Not sure what you mean. You can use rt <area> from recall to go to an area
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jolo Tech: on the same map
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jolo Tech: from room a to room b
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: You can check out maps to find directions
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: https://aardwolfboot.com/maps/
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: the Gaardian maps are the best ones if there's one available for the area
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can type in the direction you want to go based on exits... north, east, south, west, up, down (can just use the first letter). Sometimes there are custom exits that you need to use the correct syntax for.
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: maybe a weird question, but what editor do yall prefer for plugin development? i usually use vscode and am pondering figuring out how to do an embedded language for lua syntax higlighting in the xml file, but i'd hate to reinvent that wheel if somebody has something that works already
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I use VScode, too.
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: yeah almost everyone uses vscode
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: i mean at where i work
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Honestly, I just pull out the Lua portion and write that separately, then copy back over.
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Anssett: https://code.visualstudio.com/api/language-extensions/embedded-languages
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'd like to improve one of my terrible match lines for a trigger that fires based off combat stuff... sometimes combat stuff starts with *[#], sometimes its [#], sometimes its *[##], sometimes its [##] but my brain cannot work out the syntax for that
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ^(|/*.)/[./*.]/ ain't it
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: at least it seems like its not
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: cause it breaks it
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: try copy/pasting it and clicking convert to regex?
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: ^\*?\[[0-9]+\]
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, the problem is the multiple-choice options based on crits and # of hits
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: oh, the ? makes it optional, right?
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: I agree with Tinypotato there
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what's the + do?
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: means 1 or more 0-9s
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: + is 1 or more 
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thank you very much :)
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The [0-9]+ can easily be changed to \d+, which is the same thing.
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: Crowley: yeah i was starting down that particular rabbit hole and thought i would stop to see if anybody had gone that way already :)
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zathrus Tech: there a way to make the "down" arrow key clear the input line even if the cursor is in the middle of a word? currently mine only clears when its at the end of the line