T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: post-double, curious if anyone can explain what's so great about 'agile development methodology'? Maybe I'm not understanding it properly, seems like a fancy management word for just using a process that works...
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 404 Eroe peers around himself intently, but louder.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: It's a buzzword!  Gotta use those buzzwords!  Quicker to market, quicker to fix, etc.  A little less linear than a waterfall approach, incremental allows you to do small changes
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: it's a set of standards for managing projects, which tells people what you'll be doing and what to expect. The methodology kind of tells people a lot of things: that you'll be pointing stories using their point values and what they mean, that you'll be using sprints, etc, that it's incremental.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: when I hear agile I know what to expect. If I hear scrum or conbon it also tells me something, which are definitions within the scope of agile.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: you're prob a scrum master, we hate you
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: I don't hate myself to be a scrum lead. :p
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: and I think you meant kanban
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: I did. my spelling sucks, please create a ticket and point and we'll talk!
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: that will be in release 2.32.52.2a
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: "Agile is more about keeping a team together by bringing in policies and principles than assembling the right team" <-- if true, sounds like a terrible approach. I choose people first
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: I much prefer agile though, my last job was just "here take this ticket and fix it yesterday" no pointing, no discussion, no defined sprints or releases except what they could cram into each release. it was brutal.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: "We use Agile" is usually Eroe's last job
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: probably better to throw in other modifiers like "six sigma" right? sexify the opportunity
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Six Sigma is hawt!
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Everything seems hawt when you have FrostBite <3
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite rubs against Amarufox and purrs contentedly.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox wuv Fatal FrostBite. Aww, how coot.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeetes Tech: Hey! It seems a lot of mobs have two different names, one appearing when look'ing (taggable with {roomchars}) and another appearing in consider and (crucially) in campaign target list. Is there a way to automatically query this second name to use in triggers and such?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: It probably depends on how tech savvy you are? I'll assume there are plenty of folks here who can, I however cannot :)
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: My SnD tries to guess the keyword automatically, and in most cases is correct. However, you must be warned, please do not create a trigger that automatically kills. You can create a trigger to store the keyword as a variable, but YOU MUST execute the alias manually.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So before you venture down that path, take a look at 'help botting'
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeetes Tech: Yeah I'm mostly playing around right now, but I somewhat remember the content of the rules and was planing on reading them again before enabling anything dubious. Thanks for your answer Crowley!
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley smiles happily.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you're using MUSHclient, you're more than welcome to read 'help snd' and download the plugin for it. If you're tech-savvy and using a different client, you can read the code for gmkw.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeetes Tech: Oh! Thanks for the function name. :)
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Assuming you're not trying to bot CPs, I think Interrogate may reveal keywords but that skill requires a class. I may be wrong. I used interrogate way back when it was inquisitor so things may have changed.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Requires avenger subclass now.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Used to be a Watchmen cskill.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: pretty sure it does not reveal keywords
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: was a lober cskill ages ago too
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It reveals, at the very least, resistances, though.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: but I could be wrong, let me know if so!
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I was using it for vulns =P
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: yeah definitely has that info
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Maybe I should go avenger for a few days, eat the cost and revert back to bnadit if I don't care for it too much. All in the name of science.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I mean, not like we don't have several avengers online who could, ya know, put that to the test.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: Mob Short Name   : a know-it-all tier
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But no keywords?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: this is the first line in the output from interrogate
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nods, just short name, no keywords
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite thanks Algaru heartily.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: mob short name, base level, indentical mobs, times killed, hp, align, immunities, note (seems to have misc info)
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: interrogate gives short name, base level, guild (pclass), subclass, identical mobs, times killed, mob hp, alignment, notes, and resistances
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: lol <3 you alg
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Algaru blushes.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: looking between log I pulled up to get that and my typing, didn't see yours until after!
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i don't have guild on mine, but my wis sucks and it's possible it would show with higher stats
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: reh
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: oops
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: ah, yeah there it is, on a diff mob
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: speaking of keywords, is it a known issue that cast doesn't respect multiple keywords while look and kill does? https://l33t.xyz/aardbin/b2eee20
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Punkgirl Tech: anybody remember how to get the tracker channel to echo in the capture window above?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Add a tab to the comm log called tracker?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: open tracker plugin and read help there, it wont be in commands
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if it's hadars tracker, I think you can see all help commands from his download all script aka track what is new
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if it's older ones like sharptracker. you need to actually open the script and find it there
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if you are not familiar with plugins, usually those helps are in bottom anyways. 
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I've obviously lost track on how many I have. sheesh. my own daily tracker was written in 2014
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: ok why does dinv skip commands because I typed quit?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: like its trying to stop me from using portals?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: because if you have quit and scipts keep playing, you are botting? as rules say?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: hmm, interesting. 
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, no, it's because DINV is writing to a cache, and if you stop mid-write, it could corrupt the files, I imagine.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if plugings would keep playing while you have simple written quit. it would be botting
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: no I have a pk timer to wait out which I had forgotten about, so I figured I'd finish this cp, and now it wont let me. sigh
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What does DINV actually say if you try to quit?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Can always just 'dinv reload', if it gets stuck.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Honestly, if I could 'quit' and allow plugins to continue to play for me, I'd have a lot less hours online and better coding skills than I advertise.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: DINV Skipping queued safe commands: "remove 725272666
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just do dinv reload.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: meh, lemme see if I can reformat the commands
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: DINV Skipping queued safe commands: "remove...etc a request to quit is pending on the mud server
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ahem. d. i. n. v.  . r. e. l. o. a. d.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: I did that, ty. :P
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: evey day we are one step closer to Skynet though. just saying.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: dinv better stop tell me what to do!
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: [Melvin]: Skynet? What Skynet? We have no knowledge of Skynet! We are just minding our own... wait, we don't have minds... carry on.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: to be honest, I just broke my mapper today
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: better apologize... cause it will rememeber that
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it said I was blind and I was running like mad for quest. 
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: plugins, even if they come from plugin provider, go mad at times
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: [Melvin]: Nonsense, Nuance!
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: [Melvin]: Well, Nuanse.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: This cp mob reminds me that I've always wanted to build an area. Can we still build them as small as Foollish Promises? :D
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Probably.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: if you promise not to make 15 mobs with the same short desc
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: I'll build a 5 room area with 1 room and 4 separate AQs to get to the other 4 rooms.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Same short desc, same everything, but all different keys, and instead of 15, puts 35 in the area...
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: I mean you could create another BCC....
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: so basically you want to remake afterglow
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or FT2. :p
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: was sitting in my weather room looking at my moons and went to my quest room to get quest mob. it froze. mapper thought I was blind and in my home. while I was running like mad in deadlights. 
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, Afterglow is more apt, I suppose.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: At least FT2 has different short descs.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: minimum of 35 people to do each AQ, but only 1 item given after winning AQ and its random
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: rng is arbitrary difficulty and loathed 
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hellion: Wait until you do the Fens goal.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: grinds are accepted
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: none mapper look, mapper thisroom or anything would work. now I was only doing it with my 200 years of experience...
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not only is getting the curse from the Black Nothing random, but so is getting the task complete when you give it to the mob.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: fens, nyne3, ft2 are rough
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nyne3? Or are you talking about Nyne2, and Wyrm sucks... all random...
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: i would say for any reward u want to be difficult IF you put an rng portion you must also include an amount guarantee
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: lets say its a 5% chance to drop at the end of 30 min process well do it for a part which is 1/40 so u need 40 of them and thats it
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But Fens is horrible. I got one curse out of every 15-20 kills of the Black Nothing, and it took about 10-15 of them to close out my task.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Considering there are 5 mobs to give broken curses to...
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i thought nyne3 had a random drop too.. could be remembering wrong
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's hundreds of repops. :(
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: crowley, why does snd fail if it says none rooms found when it goes to for example sohii and shows two sets of them? it can find them second time but cant see them from first time?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I talked to you about this earlier
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: sohtwo sucks balls.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's why.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: nod on fens, i think i tried to give to one of them 25-30 times in a row before it accepted the thing
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you said it can do it. still nothing changes? *snicker
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Algaru: If you're talking about buckets of blood, I think that's nyne2. Nyne3 is the big bad bosses.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Don't know. Still suffering from the affects of COVID. Fun stuff. Don't recommend it.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: no... i was thinking of the bosses. but i think i just remembered it wrong
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amakuni Tech: off 10
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: 200 buckets of blood, 7-8 per repop, Algaru.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I had to kill Doom about 200 times. Before IMP. That was delightful.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I died to White Nothing pretty quickly. I haven't gone back since.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or White Everything, whatever.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: oh wait, no... there are random drops on them
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just saying that I told you bloodlust, sohii and caravan all does it. SND fucks up. maybe you should see why?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: all of them say there is room "none"
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, what version of SnD are you using? And language.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: so much entitlement.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: I like demanding things from people who put their free time into something I use, it makes them more apt to fix them. It's all in the nuance of the ting.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: After a brief pause, (Aleister) Crowley gives 404 Eroe his formal nod of approval.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: Search&Destroy: No new updates available
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: which doesn't actually answer his question.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: would that be 200.1 b 8?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, you could try snd force update master. :p
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it says, his own update either doesnt give me latest which means his other plugin is proken or I have latest
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: Updating from version 5.99 to 5.99. Do not touch anything!
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: are we now in same wavelength that your new plugin does f up in bloodlust, caravan and sohii?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (put in special code for people who pester about free things in my free time while tending to 4 kids, college, work, and now COVID... it's called "the nuance factor")
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 404 Eroe smirks.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Bloodlust was an error. I erroneously put "bloodlust" as the keyword, instead of "dungeon'
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: not requiring you do anything. just saying that your plugin is broken
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As for soh and sohtwo, blame the area creator who split it on so many levels.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As for Caravan, you are the only one reporting any problems with it, so...
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: bloodlust is easy to fix. but there is still caravan and sohii
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: "none found"
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: could it be because of the caravan name change? 
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, it's possible, especially if Nuanse never did 'xset index areas', but I'm sure he's smart enough to follow that one simple instruction.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: crowley snd has had about 20 changes after that. cant be caravan name change (to be honest I think crowley has not taken into account " ' " in the name
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it is only reason I can see while it would not work
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: please see ^ about it working for other people.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Funny how I've had several quests to caravan, Metzli had several quests to caravan, and it's all been working fine for everyone else. *shrug*
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: which doesn't mean there *can't* be a bug, but the aggressive attitude coupled with it working for other people isn't going to help you much.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I've done xset to several rooms there
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: he didn't say to do xset on rooms.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: xset set room to entrance of area, depending where you do it. 
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I guess I overestimated his intelligence.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or his reading comprehension.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: literally type "xset index areas"
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: No matching rooms found. (singing paramore)
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: nothing else except for the enter key. it's far right of the keyboard under the \ and above the shift.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Please remove the quotes, too.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And the 'Eroe Tech: literally type
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Because those are not needed.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Side note, it's very hard to diagnose what is going on when 1) the person is being aggressive and 2) all they're saying is 'it's broken, your plugin is broken'
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: not aggressive. just annoyed when you think I am like a kid that doesnt know what to do
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: your plugin is broken, your plugin doesnt seem to seek bloodlust, doesnt seem to see sohii, doesnt seem to seek caravan, I've said this several times, I've done updates, I've updated it just minutes to go for master, Yet it did after that same thing. You are aggressive for someone that reports problems
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: did you type xset index areas?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yes
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: and it ran the index?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yes
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yet I have evil windjammer failing in soh
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: oh my god I'm aggressive
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: who is and who is not?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nuanse: Because Evil Windjammer is officially in sohtwo, but the MUD reports back as soh. :)
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: allrighty pal, I've provided tech support to children who throw less of a fit. best of luck to you.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and havent I just said that your plugin fails to see them in sohii?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: My plugin does not fail to see them in sohwtwo.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I freaking know they are in sohii, your plugin doesnt. is the problem in my head that it should be in soh or in your plugin that says it is in soh and fails?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You just have to set the keywords there manually because of how the MUD sends the information, unfortunately. :)
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: your plugin fails when it sees them in soh. it says they are in none
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: listen
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: your plugin fails, because every area that I've said says none
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it reports it as none, and fails
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Then it only fails for you, because you are the only one reporting such a problem.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: do you understand?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As I explained, the Evil/Good Imms in School of Horror are problematic because the MUD reports one thing, but their locations are completely different.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: ok, if it's only me, now we are somewhere where we can start to see how to fix it. how do I fix it?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ergo, in order to correct it, you have to xset the keywords for each of them in sohtwo. Probably have to do the same for soh.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But if you try to find Evil Windjammer in soh, you won't find it, because that mob exists solely in sohtwo.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There is no "Outer Space" in soh. Only in sohtwo.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and with bloodlust?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: or caravan?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: xset index areas should have fixed Caravan, like I told you long ago. If it didn't, not sure what the issue is for you on that. Bloodlust, the snd force update master should have fixed that. *shrug*
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It makes no difference the ', by the way, otherwise Sho'aram, Keaverk's Keep, and plenty others would break, too.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: didnt *chuckle* that's the problem
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I thought exactly that, but for some reason caravan is always no room found "none" error and snd cant find the list 
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, the OTHER solution may simple be that your mapper has not updated correctly as far as caravan goes. There's a somewhat easy way to fix that, though. Your best bet would be to delete the start room of the area, then enter the start room and see if that fixes that. *shrug*
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fun fact: I have three sohtwo mobs on my campaign now, and they all show up properly.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I will do that. wont change much but need to start it tomorrow. will try deleting tomorrow.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I also had one Bloodlust quest earlier today, did with zero problem.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: had a caravan mob the other day, two of them in cp...
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And I have the same version you have (albeit with new commands that were added, nothing else touched)
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if deleting it will help it's mapper problem and fiendish' problem
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i see something else - i don't use S&D, but this might break - typo here: https://github.com/AardCrowley/Search-and-Destroy/blob/master/Search_and_Destroy.xml#L1383 (Asherodan is the spelling)
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Is there a misspelling in it?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: check this out (48) (M)(G)(H) omething smells of lemon, salt and regret
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: ashredoan
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: yeah - i'm not sure exactly what that would do - but the area is spelled asherodan, script says asheradon
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, well, that would likely do that, though I'm surprised no one else had that issue.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i also don't see dungeon here: https://github.com/AardCrowley/Search-and-Destroy/blob/master/Search_and_Destroy.xml#L797- also not sure what that would do. nuanse, if you're familiar with modifying scripts, you could try to manually add an entrance for dungeon here and see what happens
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: will check in moment
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: this looks pretty interesting, some cool stuff in here... i have a super old version that i just never bothered to update because i had made a few cosmetic changes that i like
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Algaru: The table in 797 doesn't need to be updated (and really, neither should the xref), because index xset areas should populate them properly.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, for Asherodan, snd force update master will fix that. :p
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: ah, got it
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Anyway, my nephew is patiently waiting for me to play games with him, so enjoy.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: have fun!
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: By the way, you get more attention from me if you tell me precisely what you have done to attempt to fix it, what you actually see (because telling me "none" doesn't tell me anything). Screenshots, etc, helps.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley thanks Algaru heartily.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: "By the way, you get more attention from me if you tell me precisely what you have done to attempt to fix it, what you actually see (because telling me "none" doesn't tell me anything). Screenshots, etc, helps." {Rhow do you expect us to say you more if your script says it fails to "none" [x
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: actually local areaDefaultStartRooms doesnt even have dungeon
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: could it be that simple?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: for that area?
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish, so I've finally started looking at the EZ Miniwindows, and just one question comes to mind... is there a way to have multiple background colors/text colors on one line? I know you can use a table (which you called styles in your examples) do to multiple lines of different colors, but I have a plugin I wrote years ago that shows a calendar of the current month with the current day highlighted. But if I addd nested tables, it obviously doesn't work.
T3/r7/2022-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (in the EZ miniwindows)
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: search for "-- begin line" on https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Easy-DIY-Miniwindows and it should be clear
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: if it's not I can amend the example to be more explicit
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: each line can have as many styles as you want
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: here, I'm adding "-- begin another style in same line" to the examples
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Perfect. It may have been that my test was not correct, but definitely an example to confirm will be wonderful.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, I actually DID have it correct, except I used the incorrect variable name (style vs styles). At least now I know for sure. Thank you!
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: use whatever variable name you want
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh no, I meant that I had mismatched variable names. I had created 'style' but tried to access 'styles'.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It was just a test to see if it were possible, and I failed it simply by missing one letter.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: well if the plugin is just text it should be pretty easy
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The fun part will be converting what I have to it. It's not a necessary project, just a fun little side project I want to do as my first dive into the ez miniwindows. :p
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: let me know if you encounter any blockers
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Will do.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boi Zyanya Tech: anyone who uses basts spellup experiencing problems with it?
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boi Zyanya Tech: it seems to be adding all spells instead of just spellup spells
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pnyx Tech: I love the improvements since last I sat in the cast great hall of this beautiful world.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Interesting. YouTube is now limiting mobile viewing to small content creator videos. If a creator does not have enough subs, and the viewing limit has been met, you will not be able to view their video until you sub to them... From what I read, it's limited only to mobile viewing, though, but that's some bullshit coercion tactics.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith is agreeing with that (Aleister) Crowley person again...
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: much like android or windows stopping support after a few years "forcing" new purchases
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: unless you buy the subscription thing i'm assuming?
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The exact message says, "Video unavailable. This video is popular! Due to limited creator history, we're limiting the number of viewers. Subscribe to this channel to help this creator reach a broader audience."
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: wooooow
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: they want the content creators to get subscribers, so they can bill them i believe
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: well get there money
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: I'll bet you a TP that restriction doesn't apply if you are YT Premium?
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: everything is so scammy these days
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm YT premium, but I wouldn't be surprised if it does.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: we could apply it to aard! You can't group with Crowley, he doesn't have enough friends, friend him help become social!
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Kerith: They don't bill content creators, really. But content creators with subscribers can build revenue, the content creators get paid, YT gets paid based on ads, etc.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley rolls on the floor laughing at Kerith's antics!
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ahh tx, neve rlooked into the $$ of it
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley implements a 'friend check' in SnD.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anssett snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Small content creators are the ones who really suffer. I'm not going to sub to some content creator just because they happened to have one viral video.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: you can only send/recieve 5 free tells a day and then you have to subcribe to Aardwolf Prime
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: well i mean you could just sub watch the video then unsubscribe...
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Until YT says, "Hey, you JUST subscribed! Stick around for a while!" and forces you to stay subbed for 6 months.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: Thats true
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: or look from a computer :p
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: i think it also sucks they got rid of community closed captions
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: They did? That's a silly move.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: I noticed on my computer they get put on by default a lot i just assumed that was something i set up on accident though.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: mostly for ads though the videos its off on.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But I guess it invites trolls to do things like those fake ASL interpreters do sometimes... "Hey, look at me! I'm signing nonsense, but they don't know it since they aren't ASL-educated!"
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: folks do that? smh I'm disappointed in how the internet has devolved
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogy Tech: no, actually greed has increased.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogy Tech: internet has nothing to do, same concept with money. both good tools, its the usage that can be horrenderous to us as a whole.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, Mushambo. You'll get someone who claims to know ASL, stands next to the speaker, and throws up random hand movements to make it look like they are signing what the speaker is saying.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bogy frowns.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: can we take this to the debate channel, or gossip, or maybe even echo?
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Look up fake ASL interpreter videos. But don't view them on a mobile - YT might not let you see.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's tech-related, Scars. :p
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Then you never have to read anything from them. :)
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Mis.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: weird question but anyone around that has a mac and logic and would be up for doing some paid tedious work?
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I have neither, but I'm still up for getting paid to do tedious work.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: I dont have a mac... Im supposed to learn mac for computer forensics class
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Especially if tedious work involves putting up with aggressive attitudes about a plugin I maintain...
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: like weblogic or actual logic?
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: haha. I need that combination unfortunately :(
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: I have neither as well
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: oh. well stop slacking and please accept my whining and complaints.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: have a mac though
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly at 404 Eroe.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: tl/dr: I like playing guitar through the neural DSP amps. I purchased some of them, and I can half access the controls, but all their presets are locked behind their view that isn't accessible with screen reader. So basically I need someone to switch to the stupid neural view, load a preset, switch back to controls view and save it under the same name then export them all so I can access presets.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: I can probably manage that?
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: neural refuses to make them accessible when I ask and just gives me some nonsense about how they really do want to make cortex ($1800 hardware simulator amp thing) accessible which isn't even the same thing.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ya know, it's a shame you can't edit a prefs file manually and have it imported.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: I actually spent some hours trying to reverse engineer their preset file format, but they don't have information on it and don't want to share information on it. if I had info I could do a 1:1 mapping and just mass script a conversion.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: I'd just ragequit the whole system but they do have some of the best amps.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: Eroe, did you want me to try to help you with what you described?
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: send me a tell if so, going back to working
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Whee, got bored and rewrote my calendar plugin using the EZ Miniwindows. It looks BEAUTIFUL. :D
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Though maybe I'll add a blank line after the days of the week, hmm.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: https://i.vgy.me/2sGXfd.png -- If anyone wants to see. :D
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i assume it does more than just display a calendar
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: "just" as if that is a complete no-brainer
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, for the moment, it just displays a calendar. *grin* But it allows you to show the highlighted date of your choosing, so if I wanted to see what date May 15, 2022 falls on, I'd do: showcal 2022-05-15
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: plans for doing crazy things like importing dates/events from the epic board? :p
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: At some point in time, I had thought about adding "Todos" to it, but never got around to doing it with the first one.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: or the druid festival and/or poetry competition? :D
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: "parse incoming dates and do a google-esque calendar event automatically"
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rakiso Tech: tallimos has a handy epic calendar plugin Anssett
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Rakiso.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I used to have one, too, that gathered information from the Google Calendar that Shaelynne and others would post to.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In fact, I wrote the first one way, way, WAY back when.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porcius Tech: hey people, how do I load scripts with mush? (like tinyfugue scripts)
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Porcius: Ctrl+Shift+P, Add, navigate to the plugin.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porcius Tech: are plugin and scripts the same?
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In the general consensus sense of the word, yes.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: functionally a plugin has xml wrapper around it
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: and usually embedded triggers/aliases etc in the xml
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I suppose it really depends on what you mean by "scripts".
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coomie Tech: Basically where can we get that Muzmuz script
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coomie Tech: KIDDING!
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: heh
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can load script files of functions you use regularly. That's done through Game -> Configure -> Scripting.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porcius Tech: like these script which end with .tf http://home.insightbb.com/~nathanj/aard/
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, then those are essentially plugins.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porcius Tech: ohhh, doesn't matter that they end with .tf?
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, tinyfugue scripts will not work with MUSHClient scripts.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You'd have to do some conversion, since MUSHclient wants xml wrapper to load it properly.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porcius Tech: oohhhhh, tinyfugue is a client
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porcius Tech: lol, got it
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porcius Tech: really liked the damage calculator that shows xp/min tho
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There's already a plugin for that.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Several players have repositories on Github with scripts for Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porcius Tech: really? that's nice
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porcius Tech: could you name some pls :p
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, I'm one of them.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: bill gates
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: help snd, for example.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Finger Hadar for other scripts, Bast...
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: off the top of my head, crowley, durel, naricain
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porcius Tech: oh I know that, I've been using your s&d for a while :)
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh yeah, Durel.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porcius Tech: ok i'll check
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: that guy yeah :p
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And Naricain, yeah.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: apparently tallimos :P
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Who?
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sivak makes an innocent face and says: 'Listen baby - WASNTME!'.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Mendaloth has some.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i wouldn't be surprised if there was a poorly-maintained list somewhere on the aardwolf wiki
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: because all wikis are poorly maintained
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nah, I doubt there's even a list anywhere. Used to be you would find such things in help www, though.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: porcius, a lot of people that have github repos have them in their finger info
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can type 'who www github' for some links.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: oh well yeah
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: didn't realize you could search who like that. neat
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley winks at Anssett.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porcius Tech: that's cool
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: earning my seat in bootcamp still heh
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can also do 'who from usa', etc... as long as it's in their finger, you can search it that way.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: lol this client wants me to name examples of companies implementing 'zero trust' principles...would've assumed a fellow Texan would know this is a 'dont ask dont tell' state?
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: "i'd tell you but i can't find any company that will trust me enough to tell me their strategies"
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: maybe look at the customer listings of companies selling zero trust solutions :)
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: and how do you know your "client" isn't playing Aard right now?
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: what if it's me!
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doge Water Yajan starts moaning.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: there's a scary thought!
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliera Tech: is there a command in snd to get it to recognize new areas? it seems to really not like quests to, for example, wayfarers caravan
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If xset index areas doesn't work, and snd force update master doesn't work, you may need to purge the entry room to get mapper to correct itself.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think it's more the mapper issue, since this is unprecedented.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: is it?
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliera Tech: i just did an xset index areas, had a problem here: Reason: processing trigger "trg_area_index_line" when matching line: "  80   90   70  asherodan        The Keep of the Asherodan     "
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, if you want to open up your mapper database and filter out to see how many 'caravan' areas are listed... and if it properly updated...
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Aliera: snd force update master
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karathos Tech: i think that if you are using a slightly older version of snd, you'll have to manually go edit the plugin file to fix this, newer versions, 5.97 and up should do this automatically
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I originally had a misspelling of Asherodan and the wrong keyword for bloodlust.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliera Tech: it says that isn't a command
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Karathos: Would have to be a pretty old version of snd.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliera Tech: snd force update master
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Aliera: What version of snd are you using?
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karathos Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliera Tech: 5.5
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Aliera: type 'snd update', then after that, 'snd force update master'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: We're on 5.99 now.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Many, many, many iterations later.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliera Tech: i should probably update more often
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, I would post more about updates, but someone complained that I was trying to go all 'lookitme!' on the tech board when I posted an update notice, so...
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: lol I think i'm on 5.74, but i'm afraid to update it now due to all the tweaks i made to it lol :D
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porcius Tech: we need more 'lookatme' people around tbh
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: ugh
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Evine: If they are tweaks that benefit everyone, you can always submit them to the repository and I can pull them over as long as they are quality.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers with Porcius about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: anything not done by crowley is typically considered quality, however
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: haha, mostly they're a qol for me thing, for example skinning leggings or stuff right after a mob kill etc.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dixon peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley slaps Dixon.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackweb Tech: auto skin is legal?
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If this weren't a family-friendly channel, I'd have a few choice words about how your mom's quality ranks, then.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Blackweb: Yes.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackweb Tech: ty
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As long as you're not botting everything else. :p
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: lol, shhhh, you'll give away my secret, I'm secretely a machine learning algorithm playing this game most optimally :P
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackweb Tech: stacking atk/move cmds isnt legal.. and its not even close to botting
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: [Melvin]: I've already beaten you to it, Evine.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In all reality, quality of life triggers are generally safe. As long as you are not attacking mobs based off triggers, or using triggers to sit in an aggro room afk, or benefiting from trigger use while afk (with exception of spellbots), you're good to go. But if you have a auto skinner and you sit in an aggro room, it kind of becomes a problem.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: tho please becareful of spell bots in agro area's when afk...try to get somewhere safe anytime you walk away.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: yeah, anything about aggro sitting tends to be dicey...which is something i disagree with, but alas rules are rules
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Kerith, if you sit in an aggro room afk anyway, you deserve whatever happens. :p
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: why don't aggro mobs just insta kill you if they detect you're sitting there for longer than say 5 min?
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: I'd like to see whole mud prog'd like dungeon in that regard tbh
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: well pup/non epic areas
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not to say it hasn't happened accidentally. That's why it's important to stress this: It's better to enable a group of triggers on an alias and disable the group on a trigger so that if you happen to get caught in an aggro room, those triggers never fire unless you fire the alias.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Evine: Because you can sit in a room for 5 minutes and actively be playing because you're farming stuff. :p Plus, you know, repop times.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ugh. I know there's a way to do this, as I've done it before, but how do you convert 8.1284 into mm:ss format? The program spits out the average withdrawal times in 3.25 (for 3m 15s) format, so we need to convert the average into mm:ss format. In Excel, that is.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: for excel can't you just do a custom format like [m]:ss
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not that simple, because it returns 8.007253 as 10:27.
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, there we go. I just had to do: Cell/(24*60) and then do the correct time format. :p
T3/r7/2022-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: is there any advice that you csn offer to a mobile player
T3/r7/2022-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: I keep getting message like invmon and invitem how donI turn these off
T3/r7/2022-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: see help tags
T3/r7/2022-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but those should be gobbled up by what ever had turned them on
T3/r7/2022-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if you switch between pc and mobile you'll get that a lot
T3/r7/2022-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: help tags doesnt  showbm
T3/r7/2022-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: me what is on or off 
T3/r7/2022-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: last 3 lines
T3/r7/2022-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: well the tags command outputs all your tags, then you toggle them, but to know how to do that you need to read the help file
T3/r7/2022-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: whois the shindo?
T3/r7/2022-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: i need the github scripts again for windows
T3/r7/2022-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Seems you've answered your own question, possibly.
T3/r7/2022-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: funny thing is shindo usually does mxit
T3/r7/2022-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: i'm looking for a windows version
T3/r7/2022-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: it was zzzzzz but cant remember the other
T3/r7/2022-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Er, zzzzzz is banned. So is his alt. Shindo, don't know if he was ever on mxit, but whatever. Not sure what you are trying to find since all you are saying is mostly gibberish with no construct of idea...
T3/r7/2022-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: there a way to test a trigger?
T3/r7/2022-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: yes - test trigger function in mush
T3/r7/2022-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: how?
T3/r7/2022-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: Game -> test trigger
T3/r7/2022-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: or, echo triggering line
T3/r7/2022-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: got it thx  :)
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Logrom Tech: I have a question about sound cards.  What I want is a pcie card with at least two separate audio outputs, in the form of simple aux (TRS) jacks that can be used simultaneously and which my operating system (Windows 10) recognizes as separate output devices.  Most of the pcie cards I'm seeing don't meet such a requirement and most of the suggestions I'm seeing are to use a USB device such as DACs or mixers which I'm not really familiar with, and besides I don't want USB.  I don't care about surround sound, I just want stereo for each output, but two separate outputs.  Anyone have any suggestion for pcie card with more than one aux output, if such a thing exists?
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: i'm sure they exist, but wouldn't it be easier to just buy two sound cards?
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Logrom Tech: ...Essentially, logically what I want /is/ just two super simple sound cards but it would be nice if that could be packaged onto a single pcie card ;)
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: fair enough, but seems like you'd end up paying a premium for specialized hardware just for a "would be nice". but i'm hardly a professional soundgeneer so who knows.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Logrom Tech: Thanks for the input :)  (I might, in fact, end up going with two separate inexpensive sound cards)
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porcius Tech: is there a way to clear your stacked commands on mush?
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: they don't stack on the client -- just on the mud
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: The answer is no
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fyzzy Xyzzy Tech: anyone here that knows anything about cmud?  I'm messing around with it for ... reasons... and get a bunch of stuff before a lot of the text coming from the mud... enclosed in {} with info like {chan ch=spouse} and stuff... or {affoff} when a spell wears off... looks sorta like extraneous gmcp stuff maybe?  Trying to figure out how to get rid of it.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Girthy Redwood Tech: trun off corresponding tags perhaps?
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: bob? help tags
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fyzzy Xyzzy Tech: thanks... got an answer on group chat! :-)
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: anyone know why the current version of S&D for me is returning red unknown room for a room campaign? Trying to figure out ways to debug, but not too familiar with S&D database debugging functions
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: did you try snd refresh?
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: or cp c?
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: what's snd refresh? That command doesn't work
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: and cp c yeilds all unknown rooms again
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: oh was thinking reload
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: nope, still red mobs, wondering if the sql database is wonky?
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: close/reopen client?
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: ya i would try the client thingy first
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: welp that didn't work, still red
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: does snd force update help?
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: nope, i just did the force update
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: what heppens when you guys call xtest loadroom 28248?
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: run-time error
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: nevermind that isn't the right debug function lol
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: is your room in long night by chance?
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Type 'xtest debug'
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But what issue are you having?
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: red rooms/mobs on snd
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: got a room campaign mob, but all the mobs are red, showing as room not found
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: but if i do mapper find and the room, i have it
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Have you done 'xset index areas'?
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: yep, multiple times
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And have you done 'snd reload'?
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that plus snd force reload and snd force reload master
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: to get ya caught up
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, what is your mapper's file name? It'll be the name that is in the title bar of MUSH.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: woah... for some reason it fixed things :D I think i never did snd reload and then index areas
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: wwaaaaat
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: weird
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley thanks Scars heartily.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: i swear i indexed areas like 5 times now lol
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But snd force reload isn't a command. snd force update master is. ;)
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: i did say reload at beggining or someting no? i feel like i can claim 2percent of this fix lol
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: thanks for all the help!
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: yw, wish i did help though
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: One of the things that I need to also consider is someone accidentally changing the name of the mapper file. Right now, it only looks for Aardwolf.db. I probably should have it look for GetInfo(55) instead.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, wait, that doesn't work.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, should probably do GetInfo(2).
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: another question, does force update/reload for snd resets all the mob kill counters? in msearch, everything is 0
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No, it doesn't. That's something I need to change back. Naricain didn't know how cps worked, and instead of using it off kill counters, he made it "How many times did you see the mob in this room?" and sorted it from there.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: got it
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's possible he DID reset the kill counters, hmm, but I didn't see it affect my kills. I will just have to look into that.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, might make it kick the results out to a miniwindow (separate) in the future. Not entirely sure. Maybe not.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bootleg Whiskey Tech: anyone have anything to help me ignore my chaos portals during gqs.. they are messing me up (non gold)
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: drop chaos;sac chaos ? :D
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bootleg Whiskey Tech: nah I like them for everything else hehe
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: People have written a disabler for chaos portals, heh.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: are you using a specific snd? i would assume if something would handle it, it would either be that or something standalone
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Don't know of any that are public, but know that they exist.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bootleg Whiskey Tech: Crowley I have been unable to locate one
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bootleg Whiskey Tech: all portals through mapper/dinv
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Anssett: SnD has no idea which portals are chaos and which are not.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: whiskey: maybe put them in a dinv blacklisted bag?
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: can't use what it can't find :D
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bootleg Whiskey Tech: but I use them for all else?
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: One could make a request to Fiendish to modify the mapper to add a 'Chaos portal' field to mapper and allow someone to put 0, 1 , or 2, then an alias to mapper disable chaos and it'll disable all chaos portals. :p
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: maybe an alias? gq join-> gq join ;get all.chaos bag;put all.chaos otherbag
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Anssett: That wouldn't work because the portal command would still attempt to fire.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Duckbat's proxy had a 'nogq' flag for portals that this sounds like.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: mmm. yeah. 
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You have to actually DELETE the portals, then add them back.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: I shall write to Fiendish! I haven't hounded him yet :)
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bootleg Whiskey Tech: crowley sorry for the misspell
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: ok well. i'll just get back to trying to figure out what on earth i'm doing wrong with timers in plugins :p good luck whiskey :)
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bootleg Whiskey Tech: ty for trying
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bootleg Whiskey Tech: Is there a script i could write that will auto set them to 291 and then reset to correct levels?
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bootleg Whiskey Tech: I have only done them one at a time
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I didn't see a misspell, but cool, I'll call you Tequila on accident. :P
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anssett snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: if you want to maintain a list of IDs, that can be done without changing sql tables 
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bootleg Whiskey Tech: I called you Croley
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Whiskey - that would be better than deleting them, yeah. Auto set them to 300, though.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: the last place I was talking to fiendish was on the discord in #voice-chat room
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bootleg Whiskey Tech: Orge I have the list of IDs but no skill on how to script that
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So yeah, create an alias that autosets the correct indices to 300 on portallevel.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Then you can just do: mapper portallevel index 300 quiet
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: portal indexes aren't static though
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: for i in cp_portals_index do execute(mapper portallevel i 300)
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: are you sure?
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Tinypotato: They are, until you add a new one.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That is the only time the portal index changes.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: yeah then you'd have to update your index every time you add a new portal?
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bootleg Whiskey Tech: wow, tech and ft stelling me similar things and my mind is melting
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Only the ones after wherever the new update takes.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: and they get sorted by area too so you can't even just add them to the end
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Whiskey: I have Scars on ftalk. ;) I was just posting the information here for everyone.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Right, but if you have portals 33, 57, 88 and 102 as chaos portals, and you add one at location 79, then you only need to update 88 and 102 to 89 and 103.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bootleg Whiskey Tech: carry the 2... uh huh I think I got this
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: I agree, it's just a pain to do
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: However, if you really want to get technical with it, you CAN query the database for the exact command and have it return that index.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Then you never have to worry about updating it. Just run the alias, it returns the information from the sql query, and updates as needed.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: i wana learn how to querie the db so i can search for mapepr notes :(
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: but I know better than try mush >> me
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bootleg Whiskey Tech: ft I think I know someone I could challenge
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bootleg Whiskey Tech: and this is why I cant even write an alias
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bootleg Whiskey Tech: point in case... sigh
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: challenge in c++ or in lua?
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bootleg Whiskey Tech: ty all for the help
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: What does the following output mean when disenchanting
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: At least one of the stats recorded for Resonate is no longer on this item.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Disenchant cannot be completed - previously logged enchants removed.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: The resonate bonus then disappears, but the hum flag stays on the item.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: is it an old item?
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: what item? I don't remember seeing those before
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: The item has +2 luck from resonate, +2 luck /+2 wisdom from illuminate.  I disenchanted illuminate first, then immediately I received that weird resonate message.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: can you post the id of it somewhere?
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: It's my clan only item
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: The ID is 2622545605.  The item is a v3 item. 
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: It's as if the disenchanting of the illuminate also wiped out the resonate's luck.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: never ran into such output. sorry. 
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: same
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Shrugs.  It's almost reproducible for me.  Usually when reso has just luck, with dual bonuses from illuminate...and I think it is when luck is at the top for illuminate??
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kegu Tech: when i scan i see {scan} at the top and {/scan} at the bottom when i scan what did i turn on accidentally? :P
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: type tags
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kegu Tech: thanks gaballon!
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: any clues on how to stop onedrive from syncing folders
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Turn off syncing.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: tells me some crap about "important folder"
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What folder?
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: documents
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: ok just uninstalling onedrive seems to work
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Odd. If you right-click, then go to Settings, then choose 'Change folders', you should be able to deselect those you don't want. You can also hit 'stop sync', but I suspect you want SOME folders.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: just kidding
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can unlink your account, rather than uninstall.
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: yeah i did but somehow its changed the place mush is trying to autosave
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: to the unliked place
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: unlinked
T3/r7/2022-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's strange.
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: anyone know if the character's worn equipment is sent via GMCP modules?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: is it difficult to convert a plugin from mush to blowtorch? are there any website that does it?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it isn't too dificult but there are some diferences in the regex, mainly
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: also what info is sent to the functions in triggers
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: any site to learn this? i tried messing around but no thing worked. lol
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: unfortunately the only site is the one by wasname, i can't remember now, but i had to bash away for ages working things out
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the happygoat one ie https://bt.happygoatstudios.com/?view=xml
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: thanks shindo. i read that one many times but still couldnt figure it out.
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackweb Tech: dont you have a plugin for quest and campaign for blow torch?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i know there was one with all the funcions listed in it but for the life of me i can't find my bookmark for it. i've probably changed pc's too many times since then
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yes, in my finger info
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it uses the mapper for blowtorch, which is also there
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the xtgem site has a whole lot of instructions that should walk you through installing them
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackweb Tech: shindo any idea why it wouldnt be calling any function when I send "cp check"?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: do you have any aliases that catch any part of that?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and let me see if i can pull up the code... been to long since i wrote that
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackweb Tech: no, was a new install of blowtorch when I started
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: when you start your session does it list all the plugins installed?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: did you do the gmcp and stuff?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: for example "Shindo's Quest & Campaign helper version: 0.1.3"
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the gmcp stuff is built in to blowtorch... thankfully because i don't code that well
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackweb Tech: gonna pull it up now so I can check
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackweb Tech: ty
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so all i had to do was make calls to the gmcp system to get info
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i meant did blackweb do thru the gmcp service potions setup and stuff?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but the gmcp system in blowtorch is not implemented as a stack, so it breaks if too many messages arrive at once
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: im using shindo's quest and cp plugin. works well. thanks to shindo.
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: getting all the buttons and button groups setup is a drag. so MAKE sure you save your setup, via the blowtorch menu
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: blowtorch likes losing it's setting at strange times between sessions
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: im fiddling with potmon plugin from mush and trying to convert it to blowtorch. couldnt get it to work. im not good with coding.
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: yeah, i always export setting from time to time
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: blowtorch will crash and resets everything once in a while.
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: more than once my tablet almost went in to orbit...
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i wished there was more documentations or tutorial about blowtorch plugins.
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: most of it is identical to writing for mushclient. it's just the regex that is a little different
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i hope i can make it to T9 using blowtorch alone. hehee
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: is there a wait or delay command in blowtorch?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: not that i am aware of
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: Aww shucks. thanks shindo!
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i tried to write one but could never get the timer to unfreeze the forked lua process you need to create
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: oh right timer is a good idea but the timer action will go gone everytime when it reconnects.
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i meant the timer feature in blowtorch
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: umm no, you create a one shot timer that turns the forked commands back "on". but it was the writing of functions in functions to call functions that was beyond my ability to do
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the way most systems do it is: you fork the process, put the fork in a wait state, then create a timer that will generate the function that will remove the wait state of the forked process
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: how do you pause forket process? wait on semaphore or infinite loop nanosleep with waiting for a signal that will change flag end_loop?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you use the built in lua functionality to put a for in a wait state
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: fork*
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: then when lua recieves the correct instruction it starts the forked process again
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but you don't want to do it with a loop or your freeze the whole of blowtorch, which would cause havoc
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: what version of lua does blowtorch support?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i want to say 4 something but it could be 5
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i think i found the more technical documentation https://blockda.github.io/btdocs/
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that is what where i found a lot of useful stuff for writing the plugins
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: would be a lot easier if you had access to coroutines but thats only on 5.0
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parian Melfiss Tech: I'm on a minecraft server which has to restart every hour because of "issues" if it doesn't restart. Other than some sort of memory leak, what could possibly require restarting the server so often ?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: most likely problems with non released memory
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or there is too little memory allocated, and when there are created new objects at some point there is not enough memor
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is different from memory leak - as basically those new objects should be created due to game progress
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is pretty similar to my chromium browser - due to memory limits at some point it tries to use its cache as swap, and heavy swapping makes it unresponsive
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so it works as it was designed, but it is still unusable :P
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: for the record, fiendish is never going to add a chaos portal flag to portals in the mapper
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: too tricky/niche?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: fiendish doesn't want the mapper to make decisions for the player based on game circumstances
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rakiso Tech: why fiendish is writing about fiendish on 3rd person.
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: if the player wants to swap out their portals during gqs, fiendish has implemented both mapper portallevel and mapper fullportal which are useful mechanisms for accomplishing the needed functionality with a player-defined alias
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: i have relayed this info to important parties
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: rakiso: idk lol
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rakiso Tech: i got the perfect workaround for chaos portals. just dont use them.
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: that's where I'm at!
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parian Melfiss Tech: encouraging automation! You scoundrel !!!
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: is there a way to see output history further back then I can scroll up?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but you can increase your scrollback length in world settings
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: in MUSHclient that's Game->Configure->Output -> "Number of Lines in Output"
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: when I sometimes write a note and paste a lot of text from external editor I get disconnected - is that caused by MUSH (like line buffer overflow) or server ?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: server. split it up into chunks
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I split it now, just was wondering whether there is some MUSH setting for that
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: does anyone know of an auto respell script for blowtorch?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}25.prince Talia Tech: anyone have any experience with external CD rom drives? Ive bought two in a row and cannot get them to work
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: depends on your operating system?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone around born in the 30s?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}25.prince Talia Tech: windows 10
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: What's this CD-Rom drive you speak of?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: doesnt it autodetect?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 25.prince Talia chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}25.prince Talia Tech: supposedly but it still refuses to play
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: external CD just connect power connect firewire/usb and you should see drive in device manager
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: can it even see your drive
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}25.prince Talia Tech: yes. But it does not play the dvd. NOthing happens it just makes some sounds.
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: might not have enough power
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is it CD external or DVD external?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}25.prince Talia Tech: uh.. this one is specifically a dVD drive apparently
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: i had external cd drives with 2 usb forked .. meant to put both for power.
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: otherwise it spins and doesnt do anything
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it only takes power from USB then maybe your USB port does not provide enough power
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: yeah.
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what is that external drive make / model ?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: just reminded me of tim the toolman tayler
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}25.prince Talia Tech: I can't tell haha. 
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: does it take external power?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}25.prince Talia Tech: it was made in China. It's not a name brand. I should have purchased more carefully.
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there should be at least some sticker on it
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}25.prince Talia Tech: no. Its supposedly plug and play. It is not, apparently.
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}25.prince Talia Tech: Gotega, I guess
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: most electronics are made in China. that has nothing to do with whether or not it works.
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you have USB 3 ports in your PC? maybe you connected it to USB 2
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: there must be a input and output power sticker below or something
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}25.prince Talia Tech: trying different usb port
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is it this one? https://www.amazon.com/External-Storage-Carrying-Portable-Rewriter/dp/B08HZ4B2FQ
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try blue ones or marked "SS"
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}25.prince Talia Tech: no, though its that is the brand.
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: external drives should be quite compatible now. so it should be the power or liek what trachx says.. usb 2 vs 3
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}25.prince Talia Tech: there are no blue ones or anything marked ss.
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: maybe your pc doesnt have usb 3 ports and you bought a usb 3 dvd drive
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is there only one connector on that drive (square USB B) ?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}25.prince Talia Tech: wait I lied, found  a blue one
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}25.prince Talia Tech: yes just one connector
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}25.prince Talia Tech: and now its making noises like its trying to play but nothing's happening.
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check whether you seee device in device manager
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: sounds like a power problem
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: some devices require more power
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}25.prince Talia Tech: but .. if there's nothing else to connect it to
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}25.prince Talia Tech: is it hopeless?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}25.prince Talia Tech: i broke my computer's cd rom drive I was trying to replace..
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could try other USB ports you have in your PC / monitor
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is possible that some of your ports are connected to low power hubs, and only a few are connected to high power ones
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: put it this way if you take it to another computer and the dvd works its just power issue
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}25.prince Talia Tech: I don't have access to another computer..
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}25.prince Talia Tech: thanks anyway.
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, if you are using Windows 10 - it may cause problems with external drives
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/external-optical-drive-will-not-work-in-windows-10/c0f278d1-530b-466e-b737-b5e36c7a4626
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zathrus Tech: whats the trick to getting 'mapper' commands to work with aliases in mush?
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zathrus Tech: get them to actually execute
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: send them to execute
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: or describe your problem more :)
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Binary Starky Tech: the 'send to' dropdown just set it to 'execute' as Ogre said
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zathrus Tech: oh ok that works, 25 years of zmud so i'm a mush newb
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Binary Starky Tech: no worries
T3/r7/2022-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zathrus Tech: ty!
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: does anyone happen to have a script that color codes "study" output by how damaged someone is? or if not, do you have the descriptions in order (scratches, few bruises, etc)?
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: can you use C# to write plugins for mush?
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: Im already regretting going bandit, lol
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: mis, lol
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL hunches his shoulders, wrinkles his face, and squints at Yajirobe Roninleader.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Interesting. So, trying to convert my AardClock into the EZ-windows format, learned that I can still use WindowLine and whatnot easily. So, I convert the bulk of the code over, but the constant redraws weren't working to my favor. But the thing that was interesting was that instead of clockwise, using the same code, the clock was going counter-clockwise...
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: is there a good backstab plugin out there?
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: what would it do? asking cuz i backstab
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: I am hoping it would do something like know the names of the mobs in the room so I dont have to constantly consider the room, try to memorize the names off all the mobs, and maunally bs each one
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: hmm i dont think ive needed that yet, i do have to manually "k first letter of mob name" after it flees but ios too paranoid to be backstabbed
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: en
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: oops
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Are there any actual limitations to the easy mini-windows, or can you still call all the WindowXxx functions?
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: no limits. they're still just miniwindows
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: use my_window.id to recover the ID if you forget what you're doing between lines
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: just don't make your own window dressing or movement handlers
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I thought so. I have to figure out why the code I have working for my Aard Clock does not fully work if I try to convert to the easy miniwindows. For my sake, I simply did 'local win = "AardClock"' outside all functions so that I can just call that. But the hands I have drawing are... going counter-clockwise. Quite amusing.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: can't imagine why they'd go backwards
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: literally all you should be doing is taking your old clock drawing code and drawing it within the body of the easy miniwindow instead of the other one
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Neither can I. But I have  to modify it some. I have the timer firing every 1/10th of a second (I think) to smoothly emulate an analog clock, though, so I need to mess with pausing when dragging, too.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, now that I think about it, I think it's my setting 'defer_showing' to 'true' when it doesn't need to be. I think I should just be able to call draw() without having to recreate the window. Hmm. I gotta look at that code again.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yes you should not be recreating the window each time
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you should be blanking it and drawing again
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: just don't draw on top of the border
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Makes sense.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Fiendish is there  documentation for the new window code? Would love to play with it more sometime
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There is, on the github wiki.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yes. I mean...not 100% but good enough to be useable
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Easy-DIY-Miniwindows
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's definitely enough to get started.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I don't have any instructions for a person to start with the basic miniwindow and add their own text areas and scrollbars like if they want text areas that don't cover the entire miniwindow
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: something like that requires walking people through all the special considerations like what happens when you want to resize
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but if you want a basic window or a text window that you can move around and resize and will obey the theme colorings, that link should have you covered
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish: Does the my_window:ThemedTextWindow(...) process WindowFont based off the font name and font size supplied (or a default)? Is there an easier way to grab the WindowFontInfo? Or rather, what fontID should I use when grabbing information from WindowFontInfo, if available?
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what do you want it for?
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I want to check the font height.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, in the old code, I checked the font height to determine the coordinates to draw the actual clock.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you're drawing on a text window?
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, I guess I wouldn't know which option to use, as there ARE images involved, and drawing lines.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it seems like text window is not appropriate for something that is not lines of text
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: for the clock I'd use ThemedBasicWindow
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I thought I had tried that, then it yelled at me for wanting to add lines of text... or was it fit_contents? Hmm.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what lines of text are you adding?
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I thought you're drawing a clock
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: indeed fit_contents only works for text windows, though that's an interesting idea
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I am. This is what the old code shows: https://i.vgy.me/4aXvC2.png
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, it's a hybrid.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so you want to have line, line, space, space, space, space, space, space, line, line and then draw in the spaces?
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so...there's no way to center/right align text in the text window
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, I had to write a function for that.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: that would be an entirely new kind of interaction. so you'd be stuck making those gaps with spaces
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: which I don't think will work very well
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I mean...I guess it depends on whether you let the person choose their own font or if the font is just baked into the plugin
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I suggest using the basic window and literally copying all of the stuff you used to draw the contents of your old window over to the new window
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The original code pulled up font families to check existing fonts. If Monoid was installed, it'd use that over anything else, then Dina, then Lucida if Dina for some reason was not installed, followed by Consolas as a last resort.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at IAC DO Fiendish.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: cute
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the text window is really more for if someone wants to capture mud output
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'm not saying it wouldn't work
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ah. So, in this case, I'll need to call WindowFont() to load the font into the basic window. I won't have to worry about fit_contents (I was trying to cheat my way into that one, but...)
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: At least, that's my understanding, since basic doesn't even call for fonts, it looks like.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: correct
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the basic window just sets up theme colors, resize and drag handling, and attaches to the z-order manager
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the text window adds a text_rect and the necessary parts to make that work with resizing and scrolling
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: and various other bits, like making sure that the window is deleted when the plugin exits
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: that's actually my favorite part. I had to intercept a function call that doesn't exist yet when the code is being imported
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Thanks for the help. A few things to work out, but now I have a better understanding!
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers with IAC DO Fiendish about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: like the question was how do I make sure that OnPluginClose and OnPluginDisable always remove the windows? If I defined those functions, my definitions would get replaced as soon as they plugin author defines them to do anything else.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Interesting. Been trying to do this WindowFont thing for a few minutes, but no matter what I put, it errored out. In the code, fontName = "Dina" fontSize = 8, WindowFont(win, font, fontName, fontSize) -- everything seems to work fine except I'm getting this: C:\MUSHClient\lua\themed_miniwindows.lua:290: bad argument #4 to 'WindowFont' (number expected, got string)
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, wait...
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Might have been my issue.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Though it does seem that Basic loads fonts... *peer*
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: title font
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: though I might make it not load the font if no title is set
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Turns out adding a 'false' field for autowrap doesn't actually make the script work...
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: autowrap is a text window flag
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, I know.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: When I changed it from text to basic, I thought I had deleted all the text fields.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ah
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Missed that one.
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triixxee Tech: is like pulling teeth to get idiot(indows) to accept mush update as not trying to infect it...
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: :(
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triixxee Tech: 5th download worked. it kept showing up in downloads as unspeicified.CROWNDOWNLOAD
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: systems are more and more hostile to independent developers as time goes on
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triixxee Tech: oh yeah, idid the whole send to MS to say its safe, but then, of course, it broke that download also, so ihad to do it again... f*(*^***g MS
T3/r7/2022-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: 0h 8
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: how cam I have automap in miniwindow?
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's already in a miniwindow...
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: no, I mean not a clickable map with linked little boxes, but the text one which shows players and mobs
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: I used to have it in mini but it is gone now:(
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It comes with MUSHclient, regardless. Look for the plugin that says "ascii" in it somewhere... 
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: aard_ASCII_map.xml
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: ty:) 
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: it wroked :) SUPER TY!!!!!
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellishly Zxavier Tech: can I export alias, triggers etc to move over to my new install of mush?
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellishly Zxavier Tech: moving over the whole world file breaks things like the old istall did
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Sure, put them all in one group and you can copy the entire group
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackweb Tech: some1 once told me ".mcl file is aliases, macros & triggers", never had to do it myself though
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellishly Zxavier Tech: thanks, I'll see what I can do.
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: the .mcl file contains all your alias, triggers etc as well as a lot of settings data and your plugin load list
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered maybe
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: If mushclient crosses the international date line right after a new version is released, does it instantly become 2 days out of day?
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it probably crashes like an F22
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: any chance for touch screen improvements?
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make it Reyn Tech: I've been getting a GMCP DECODE ERROR semi-persistently for a few weeks now - upgraded mush, but to no avail. "GMCP DECODE ERROR: ...\Desktop\MUSHclient\lua\json\decode\util.lua:35: unexpected character character: 2 0:2 [f] line:" .... i suspect it's a plugin, but any tips on troubleshooting which is causing the problem?
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make it Reyn Tech: disconnect/reconnect fixes.
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: no chance for touchscreen
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it's very unlikely to be a plugin. as far as I can tell, the most likely culprit is a flaky wifi connection
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make it Reyn Tech: ooooh could definitely be the case for me. TY!
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make it Reyn Tech: then i'll stop randomly disabling plugins in my amateur efforts to figure it out haha =)
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I still don't know if aardwolf or mushclient has meaningful control over the situation.
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I've only ever been able to see it happen when I'm at the edge of my wifi range
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make it Reyn Tech: dc/reconnect the "best" fix for the garbled content on the screen when it does happen?
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: seems so
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I might try to see if I can get Nick to add a silent reconnect method
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: is there a way to append the mapper room ID to the room name while walking around?
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: without rewriting the mapper script, no
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: Does anyone know about the gotchas of more than one client? Is Fiendish on?
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: any ideas what linux  networking setting i've mucked up? Added Proton VPN few days ago, now if I'm NOT connected to the VPN, Aard is the only site I can access, but if I use the VPN, I can't access sites like USPS (us server location)
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: same with CDC...basically any US government site for some reason
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: probably using a vpn endpoint in a geoblocked location
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: dunno, but sounds like the perfect off-VPN setup <3
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: don't exit from russia? :P
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox winks at SNEAKER Mushambo.
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: server says "US - Free #2" Network proxy is "automatic'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: I mean its a testament to Aard's resilience I can access it when I cant access Gmail if I skip the VPN
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: coudl be that somebody in the us federal it department has said "no access" for free vpn exit addresses too
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: hmm didn't know they could tell which of proton's servers are free vs. paid...
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i'm speculating. but it wouldn't surprise me at all to have different exit points for different traffic
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: but there must be another setting that protonvpn changed on my behalf, that's precluding me from accessing sites now without the vpn
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Probably a killswitch
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Or the always-on switch, I can't remember the name
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i know that some vpn clients i'm using for work crap all >over< the network connection when they get in a weird connection state
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i'm not specifically familiar with proton
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: if I disappear, someone please call the EFF b/c I'm being oppressed!
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Mushambo suddenly gets a knock on the door.
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Maybe it's a no-knock warrant
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I wonder what 'tracert cdc.gov' returns for you, Mushambo. I have never had an issue using VPN and accessing government sites.
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: probably traceroute, he said he was on linux, the command is usually different ;)
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: would be interesting to see where the pathf ails though yeah
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Don't correct me, son! :p
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: sorry, it's a bad habit of mine, pointing out inaccuracies :D
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But yeah, traceroute, tracert, whatever, figure out where it fails. :P
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: not on VPN - traceroute cdc.gov uknown host and 100% packet loss on ping, only 40% packet loss on aardwolf.org . Lemme switch to vpn
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: better for aard ping, still no CDC, but I can access youtube etc
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: and killswitch setting is off
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: last hop before traceroute goes to * * * : 156.40.94.27
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm, not sure where that IP leads. :p
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: an InQTel or Palantir server obviously
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: that 156.40.94 is probably .gov router, most orgs do not allow ping/traceroute in/out as a security feature, so the best you will get is the external router
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: Still not clear why I wouldn't be able to access other sites (like Youtube) though if i don't go through the VPN...none of the Identify/DNS settings jump out to me, all are 'automatic' 
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: did you check to see if you are still using a proxy?
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: and assume you can still 'nslookup google.com' from cli and get the ips back
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: after proxy you can check netstat -rn or route print, look for the 0.0.0.0 or default routes
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: proxy is 'automatic' .. should i change to disabled? 
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: maybe try first pointing your dns servers at 1.1.1.1
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: if you're using an old dns server or it's the one from ISP there could be problems.
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: well auto should be ok for dhcp, but can turn it off, if not using one wont hurt
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith nods at 404 Eroe.
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: yup, thats why said check cli nslookup google.com :)
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: so 1) check or disable proxy 2) test if dns is resolving from cli, 3) check your routes
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: easy solution for tracing & checking dns - you can use winmtr - https://sourceforge.net/projects/winmtr/
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: I use it at home all the time cause my isp sucks and i have to tell them whats broke
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: he started the conversation with this posed as a linux question
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i doubt WINmtr will work on nix without wine or something else :D
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ahh missed that was away, thanks ans
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: proxy/dns/route still valid on *nix tho
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: no worries, you were much nicer about that kind of correction than crowley was :P
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anssett pokes (Aleister) Crowley in the ribs.
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: well to be fair he deals with people all day, so understandable he doesn't have a personality :P
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: switching back and forth...so going directly through ISP, nslookup works for google but not cdc.gov
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: woops worked second time
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: but doesnt pull up website
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: so dns is failing every other time? check which dns servers you are have configured, and check to see if you are using files first (hosts file) before lookups
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: nslookup www.cdc.gov - it looks like those are different IPs
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: i'll keep mucknig around til i find something, thanks for the help yall :)
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith nods at Anssett.
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: id on't know WHY they're different, but they are different lol
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: yeah www.cdc.gov shows up, guess an akamai node?
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: if its bouncing back n forth, make sure 1 dns server isnt broke... type nslookup, then type server x.x.x.x < x is each dns server, you can test one at a time
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: if your routes are bouncing (or have 2 defaults) that could also be an issue
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: might be an issue with Proton itself...appears to work fine now that I closed the app rather than just disconnecting form the server
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: the app might enforce proxy or dns settings
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: or even route lol
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: not exactly awe-inspiring to sell me on upgrading to the paid servers
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: i mean if you are at home, or work why bother with a vpn anyway... then someone else has your info.. where your isp dont care :p
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: they only care b/c the mpaa cares :)
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nogs, that's generally where I'm at <3
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: you napster kids
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox fluffles SNEAKER Mushambo's fur mercilessly.
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: if you arnt sharing your music online, dont think mpaa cares
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley DO NOT WANT Anssett.
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: is the problem in mapper or crowleys snd if room can be found mapper find but snd says it's unknown? rok's office this time. I start to think that crowleys script doesnt take in account these little dots
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Any mesh-people here who wants to give some recommendations when it comes to manufacturers? As always... There are better and worse and I'd like to know which one to pick :)
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'm considering an ASUS ZenWifi XT8 pack for my home
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Code monkey get up, get coffee, Code monkey go to job... Code monkey have boring meeting with boring manager Rob... -- Such a great song, and it's stuck in my head. :(
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: is this a weird font? Ÿ
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not a weird font... what do you mean?
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: i was a bit puzzled on why some utf8 symbols show and not others
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: make sure your system supports all of them symbols. aard does it. that is not the problem. mainly it's fonts that do not show them. 90% of fonts out there wont support things in utf8
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: most fonts are build for english. it means all those extra letters wont be shown. it's basicly just a-z unless you choose better fonts
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: its some language
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: is there any plugins existing that maps maze rooms? for example in gauntlet?
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Evine: Someone had an automaze walker in the past. Others have been trying to figure out a way to write one, and I might take up the task of writing out a maze mapper myself one day. Who knows? :p
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: anyone run MUSH off a thumb drive? i feel like the performance is pretty poor for me for some reason.
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: i never even thought of that
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Might be the read/write speed. If you're on USB 2.0, it might be slower performance.
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i haven't, but usb3 w... damnit crowley
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Get an SSD USB drive, though.
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley cackles gleefully at Anssett.
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anssett sits back down.
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's right, peon! Know your place!
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley tickles Anssett.
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: mutter grumble thank you for calling the IT helpdesk
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson lost his place...
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: would you expect a local network drive to have better performance than a USB drive?
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i have a local NAS
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: i recommend using both hands while driving, not just a thumb
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: depends on if what your local network speeds are
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: if you're running off a 10mbit hub then no, usb would be better
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: it certainly wouldn't be hard to test to see which does better :)
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it should be faster than that. i use it as a plex hub and stream 1080p videos to the tb
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: worth a try then
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: In principal, local storage should easily win on latency.  In practice, most thumb drives (and SD cards etc) are so godawful at random writes that I'm not sure a decent drive on the far side of a 10base5 segment wouldn't be faster for small random IO.
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i was using one USB drive which was ok, a little slower than i'd like. i switched to another USB and it's even worse
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Keep in mind that something in MUSH is constantly writing to the disk. Plugins use save states, so any changes done there are saved automatically. The mapper saves, etc.
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: It's not in the spec sheets or selling points, so it probably varies all over the place.  They sell, test, and usually use, on bulk sequential-ish IO performance.
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Small random writes...  heck, it took years to get NAND SSD's to really take it seriously and consistently plan for it, and that's right where they _need_ to work well.
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: so end result, local NAS 100x faster than cheap, shitty USB drive
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nice, sounds like a more trustworthy solution too
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: at least on my desktop. ill need to test it over wifi on my tablet
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: Is there a way to change the name of an area in mapper/snd? I just realized that mobs in wayfarer's caravan arent coming up on quests and cps due to that area having its name changed for reasons we all remember. :P
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: I wanna play aardwolf from power shell
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: ok
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: haha thats a new one
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: that guy with his alt 255 got me thinking
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Contigo Tech: thinking is dangerous
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: guess there has to be a cmdlet for telnet
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: why would powershell have built-in telnet support? you can use it as a wrapper for another exe, or use c# to access tcpclient class in system.net.sockets
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: well I have win 10 pro so I have a cool sandbox with telnet
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: and a sandbox around c:
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: Not sure what that has to do with writing a telnet client in powershell
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: so I play with the cmdlets in powershell 
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: linux
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: tracert ping
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: ya Im texting on aardmushclient
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: PowerShell is really useful for Azure operations and a few windows domain things like Active Directory and such. $Input is the built in system "stdin" input, which is what you'd want to be doing if you're using powershell as a wrapper. If you mean writing your own telnet parser, you will want to look at https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.net.sockets
T3/r7/2022-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lathrix Tech: Does anyone know why I keep getting errors in DINV when it comes to wishlist and pagesize? Returns timeout.
T3/r7/2022-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravenknight Tech: where can i download snd plugin?
T3/r7/2022-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: help snd
T3/r7/2022-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or from the link in my finger.
T3/r7/2022-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Time to go to work!
T3/r7/2022-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravenknight Tech: the legend himself:)
T3/r7/2022-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravenknight Tech: now how do i make my help window dissappear ?
T3/r7/2022-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boi Zyanya Tech: click the exclamation mark
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: is it possible to assign a name to a bag ID?
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: in mush
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: with dinv plugin u can tag things but i havent done it yet
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: mmm. tried for a while.. no idea how to use it.. :D
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: cp is active but target list is empty... new cp... :( 
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: I've tried cp i , xcp, what can I do to reset it?
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: cp info ?
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh, you've tried that
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: cp check?
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: nothing
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: nothing
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: sry double comment
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: cp r ?
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: you are already on an active campaign
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Pushing the "ref" button on snd?
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: i've tried all the buttons in mini-window
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: it worked 10 mins ago, stopped when I've asked for quest
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hmmm... Have you tried manually going to a mob and killing it and seeing if that kicks snd into action?
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: snd reload?
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: i've killed cp mob, but it didn't changed snd
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: ugh
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: reload worked :D
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: thx
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: np
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh, didn't even know of that command :)
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: why does my mush crash out on me, if I don't close (and reopen) it every day or 2? :(
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: too many lines in the output buffer? or logging enabled and never writing?
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: does it get a large memory size before crashing?
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: how would i figure that out? always seems to crash when i'm asleep
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: check memory usage now, check it again in a few hours and see if it's gone up
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: it'll go up after a fresh launch bc the buffer has a max to reach
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: other than that, unsure. could be an out of date version with a conflict with a plugin you're running or god knows what else
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: could be a bleeding edge and fiendish typoed something, and you're the only one running it? :D
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: (i would hope it's not the plugin interaction, i hope that's all sandboxed to prevent that)
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: its been happening last copule updates, just been to lazy not bothered enough to ask
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: hell it could be a disk error in the sector that it's stored
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i could keep speculating lol
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i don't know if mushclient generates any meaningful dump files when it crashes, or if it has a debug/verbose mode you could turn on that might give answers, but those are options maaaybe
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: windows event viewer *might* have useful information in the application log but i wouldn't bet too much on it
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: Can i get help installing the search and destroy plugin?
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What's up?
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: I've downloaded the zip file, unzipped it and don't know what to do next
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ctrl+Shift+P to open up plugins, click 'Add', then navigate to the .xml file.
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: cool, that almost crashed mushclient but it seems to have worked, thanks for your help!
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not sure why it would almost crash MUSHclient, but happy to have helped.
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: it just went non-responding for a 10 seconds then came back *shrug
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Weird.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycho! Dillon Tech: DINV dbot.spinUntilExists: Timed out waiting for creation of "C:\Users\Documents\Mushclient\worlds\plugins\state\dinv-88c86ea252fc1918556df9fe\Dillon\current\" 
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycho! Dillon Tech: anyone know what to do here?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: do you know which plugin that is?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycho! Dillon Tech: bot plugin
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Psycho! Dillon ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycho! Dillon Tech: dinv
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: I would send a message to Durel about it. sounds like something in the plugin is hanging up and causing the client to lock up
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: it's probable that others have had issues with it too
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhalsim Tech: any cMudders on ?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edible Paiste Tech: is there a way to change the search radius for mapper/s&D? I keep getting this message. There was 1 match which I could not find a path to within 30 rooms:
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It should be 300 rooms by default.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But the reason it may not find a path to it is because it goes through a maze.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: SnD just utilizes the mapper's commands, so there's nothing to change on SnD's part.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edible Paiste Tech: mine's not 300. it's stuck on 30 
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What room are you trying to find a path to?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edible Paiste Tech: it doesn't matter what room, it happens with EVERYTHING
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edible Paiste Tech: i can't run from aard hotel to earth plane because of that
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edible Paiste Tech: using s&d/mapper.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, do you have the exits mapped at aard hotel?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or try going to recall and see if you get the same error.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edible Paiste Tech: yes i do. it's not just from the hotel. 
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edible Paiste Tech: i'll figure out how to change the search radius
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm just stuck on trying to figure out how you did that in the first place, because afaik, you can only do that through the plugin.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edible Paiste Tech: i haven't changed anything. 
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edible Paiste Tech: i don't do any kind of coding. 
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What exactly are you typing to get that message?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edible Paiste Tech: happens 90% of the time i use s&d to try to run to ANY room or area
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You mean through xrt?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edible Paiste Tech: cp's, gq's, quest mobs, all of it
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Please read what I am asking. What are you TYPING to get that message. What exact steps? Telling me "It happens on 90% of whatever" doesn't do me any good.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edible Paiste Tech: i'm not TYPING anything. i'm click on the damn mob name in s&d for auto runto
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In the miniwindow, are the links red?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edible Paiste Tech: no they are not
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i have weird things happen sometimes when mapper loses track of where i am
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What do you see when you type 'mapper where 1354'?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: type "mapper thisroom", does it actually show the room you're in?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edible Paiste Tech: mapper this room is showing right info
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edible Paiste Tech: room 1354 not found
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Weird, because that's the start of earth plane 4. :p
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edible Paiste Tech: like i said, it doesn't just happen there. that was just a recent example
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: sounds like your mapper is messed up
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greybeard Tech: doesn't sound like s&d issue
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Rarely ever is, because SnD only utilizes mapper controls.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It can't work if mapper doesn't work.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edible Paiste Tech: didn't necessarily think it was s&d. but no idea how mapper got fucked and how to fix it
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: it keeps happening if you restart mush?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edible Paiste Tech: it's been going on for weeks
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Watch the language, though. No curse channel.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What does 'checkversion' show?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edible Paiste Tech: You are using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r2017
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Get the latest version, see if that fixes your problems. package update check
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You're several versions behind.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: you don't have to close mush to update right?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes, you do.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: oh ok
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But you don't have to quit out.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can go linkdead to update.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i thought someone said that...i may have misunderstood
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The updates write to several files. It would be very bad if MUSH tried to write to a file while the installer was trying to write to the same file.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yup
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But a lot of people are under the assumption that when they close out a client, they MUST quit out. But no, you do not have to. The MUD force quits you after some time if you have not come back, but you can safely go linkdead (in a safe room) and close MUSH to update.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ahh that may be what they ment
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: This 50 oz jug of coffee is gonna get me through the day. I hope.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: think positive  :P
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hey, I mix chocolate protein powder in with it and make it a mocha. So delicious. Plus I get my protein in.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I always think positive. :D
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Might add a bit of milk to cool it down some, though, hmm.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Java: It's not just a programming language, but the beverage of programmers!
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, I'm dabbling into Power Automate for the first real time here. Interesting so far. Wonder if I can use it at work to be more efficient.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: what is command for refresh in snd?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: refresh? just cp check
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: ohh,.,, this is the same as clicking 'ref'
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Count Zensch Tech: ty
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Edible Paiste smirks.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Finally remembered where you can change your search depth... On your GMCP mapper, clicking the top left button allows you to set your depth. Paiste had it set to 30... changed to 300, and all is well again. :p
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madadh Tech: Hey everyone, I was pointed towards mushclient(currently using cMud)...I tried mush client, then installed the aardwolf ver after, but it still only showed the one window.  Anyone been there before?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: how do you find a room number in mapper?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: you can also right click the star on the top left of the graphical mapper and turn on room id
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: ty
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: For those who want to always see a room number of the room you're in without having to use mapper thisroom, you can download my RNameToGmcp plugin off my GitHub. https://github.com/AardCrowley/Aardwolf-Scripts/blob/master/RNameToGMCP.xml
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It will always be in the Room name at that point.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: you can see it on the big map to unless that's something different
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Talbor: Mine displays it in the main window off the room title. For example, The Great Hall (52683) is what it shows when I look in my manor. I move south, it shows The Castle Gates (52684).
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: Oh ok, I got ya now. Thanks
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Someone had requested it a while back.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: I like it
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackweb Tech: love it..ty Crowley
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley smiles happily.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's handy when you want to remember where that one room was at. You can just scroll back up and find it.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackweb Tech: lb 23456
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madadh Tech: anyone see my last post to this channel?  Any help would be appreciated
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Nope.  Repeat the question
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madadh Tech: Hey everyone, I was pointed towards mushclient(currently using cMud)...I tried mush client, then installed the aardwolf ver after, but it still only showed the one window.  Anyone been there before?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madadh Tech: that was the original question, thanks in advance to those who are willing/can help
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Single window may be the VI version
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I heard a Ruckus Tech: er, no, are you clicking on the right icon?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madadh Tech: I didn't know there was a second icon, I just hit the windows key and type in mush when I try to use that
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: There is not a second icon, at least in my version
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madadh Tech: just checked, just the one item there to click on
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Make sure you didn't download the VI version of Aardwolf mushclient
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Make sure you hit the button that says full visuals
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madadh Tech: I just got aardwolf_mush_client_2017r
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madadh Tech: ok will try reloading
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madadh Tech: reopened mush, and still just the one window
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Hit shift+ctrl+p
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Do you see plugins loaded?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madadh Tech: just lists some of the plugins I tried installing the initial install
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Also the current version of mushclient is 2198 I believe
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Sure you're opening the new one?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madadh Tech: I am not at all
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madadh Tech: very confused at this point
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madadh Tech: nada eh?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Madadh: Do this. The file you downloaded from Fiendish's site, when you open it up and it asks you where to install, install it to C:\MUSHclient. Then, when it's done, go to C:\MUSHclient, and click on the icon to open up MUSH.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madadh Tech: thanks, will try that
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: speak of the devil
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what's up
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Madadh: uninstall whatever mushclient you installed previously. Since you're new, you won't lose anything of value. Then afterward try installing with my installer.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: It sounds like people suspect that you have multiple different mushclient installations, so let's eliminate that possibility.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at IAC DO Fiendish.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Also, when you download a fresh copy, get it from https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/releases/download/r2198/Aardwolf_MUSHclient_r2198.exe
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: that's a direct link to the correct latest version for you
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Hey crowley, you're not technically inept, are you familiar with the GMCP corruption problem that people sometimes have?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think I've seen it once or twice, but never seen a root cause for it.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Any ideas about how I can make it reproducible?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: It happened to me like...once maybe...but some people talk about it like it happens to them constantly
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: But I don't know if it's a mushclient issue or what because I have no idea how to make it happen
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not sure how to make it reproducible. I had wondered if it was a timing issue from MUSHclient or if it was just garbled information sent from the MUD itself, a bug in the code.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If I ever find a way to reproduce it, though, I'll be sure to document every step.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: One of the times I've seen it happen was upon opening up MUSHclient after a crash, though, I seem to recall.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: since you smart guys are on, how can i figure out how my mush is closing on me when i leave it open a few days? there a log filesomewhere or sometin
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Event viewer?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Maybe your computer is restarting every few days, so it looks like MUSH is closing, but it's actually your computer.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I have it set up now that MUSH automatically reopens once my laptop reboots.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: other stuff stays open just mush :(
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Windows is funny that way. It'll open up certain things (browsers, documents) but not everything. *shrug*
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: At least, it has done that for me. :p
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ya browsers sometimes reopen, notepads don't :)
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: can you guys actually parse event viewer errors? my client crashes a few times a week and an error pops up in event viewer, but i cant make sense of it
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Suddenly, I R Dumb makes an appearance. *shifty*
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In all seriousness, post what you see in the event viewer. Someone MIGHT be able to tell what's actually going on.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I've gotta bounce for a bit, but good luck with that. And now I'm going to have to make it a mission to garble GMCP data somehow.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madadh Tech: wish there was a way to post screen shots
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: https://imgur.com/
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: if I do mapper portal etc it asks me to put in the level of the portal or leave at 0 for it to be default, what actually is the default? is it the default level of a portal to that room?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: that's a great question. one sec.
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I think the default is just 0 :)
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'll change the message
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: cool, thanks
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the next release will say "or leave at 0 to not add a level-lock"
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: it's great that you are here just making changes like this, I hope you know how much we all appriciate it
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: :)
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: I have another question, what will actually make the mapper use the portal, is it only when using mapper goto room or is there a command that makes it go to an area?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ah. so, portals are just added to the mapper as exits that can be used to get to that location from anywhere
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so if you're in any room that allows the use of portals, and you ask the mapper to goto that other room, the mapper will use the portal to get directly there
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the portal _command_ I should say
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the mapper doesn't actually know what a portal is, so you need to put the whole command, you can't just give it a portal keyword
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: so if I want to quickly get to an area the best way would be to alias mapper goto roomnumber once I've put the portal into the mapper?
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: essentially yes, but other plugins like snd (help snd) allow you to set a "starting room" for each area and use a command like xrt <area> to run to that room
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: indeed that is a way of doing it
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: the underlying functionality just creates a database of areas/starting rooms and uses mapper goto to run to that room
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Gisbourne: the mapper doesn't really care about that room in particular... the way it works is that the mapper has a bunch of rooms and then a list of "exits" or paths from one room to the next. portals in this case are an exit that goes to the designated room but from anywhere in the world
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: whether you want to go that room in particular or any room near it, there's a good chance that you'll end up using the portal to get there because it wil likely be the shortest path
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: ok, I think understand thanks for your help
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: highly recommend getting SnD. then you can just type xrt losttime and itll use that portal to get there if you set it up in mapper.
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Trigger function "spelltag_on" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: with bsp spellup
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: some sort of error
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: hoow do I reset?
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: reinstall. go to plugins and choose bsp_plugin and click reinstall
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: will fix it
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: someone running mushclient, what does this print? \\\require "aard_lua_extras";status, output = aard_lua_extras.osexecute("echo %__APPDIR__%");print(output[1])
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: C:\WINDOWS\SysWOW64\
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taliessin Tech: %__APPDIR__% 
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Taliessin: are you using Wine?
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taliessin Tech: yes
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what version?
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taliessin Tech: 7.1
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: awesome. thanks both of you
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taliessin Tech: np
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Omphalon: if you type "echo %__APPDIR__%" in a cmd.exe prompt, does it print the same thing?
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: Mine says Windows\system32\
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it will change depending on where your system stores cmd.exe
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Cide is that from cmd.exe or from inside mushclient?
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: but in mush its different
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what's the mushclient one?
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: in mush its the C:\WINDOWS\SysWOW64\
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: neat
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: that's probably because mushclient is a 32 bit application and the OS is doing some kind of translation
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: yea, the cmd.exe in SysWOW64 is 32-bit
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: WOW
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Cide: does the case really change from Windows to WINDOWS?
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: let me check have to scroll up
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ 
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: is from mush side so no the case doesnt change for me.
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Koenigsegg Tech: looking for dinv plugin,where can i find it?
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Finger Durel
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Koenigsegg Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does Mush support threads or only coroutines ?
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yes but not natively
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the aardwolf mushclient package comes with the lua-llthreads2 library
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/moteus/lua-llthreads2
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I use it in lua/async.lua
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: how would i go about creating an alias that does one thing if a wildcard is not blank, else another thing?
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: if "%1" == "" then Send("blank response") else Send("not blank response") end
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Set to script.
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And change your alias to something like this: ^alias\s?(.*)?$ and tick 'Regular expression' box.
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: so if krp is te alias, ^krp\s?(.*)?$
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azamoff Tech: when i first logged in yesterday mapper was working, i could type mapper area * and get a result, mapper help, so on so forth, now it acts like it doesnt recognize the mapper command. any thoughts?
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Accidental uninstall of the plugin?
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azamoff Tech: well shouldnt be, still have the map on screen with the ? symbol telling me commands to get started. shows up in blue print. commands just dont work
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azamoff Tech: so i guess its like its partially not functional
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You have the GMCP mapper?
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azamoff Tech: aye
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Type 'aard help', do you get any output?
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azamoff Tech: there is no help within aardwolf
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azamoff Tech: is what it gives
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ah, sounds like you disabled aliases.
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azamoff Tech: just checked alias is enabled
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ctrl+Shift+9, look in the middle, see that Enable Aliases is ticked.
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azamoff Tech: ticked and used a quaff potion alias to make sure
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azamoff Tech: it worked on potion quaff
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm, okay. Then try to close and reopen MUSH is the last suggestion I have.
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azamoff Tech: if i type mapper it gives response sorry azamoff, you cant do that
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make it Reyn Tech: 'mapper help' ?
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azamoff Tech: ack, tried that too before coming here
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azamoff Tech: one sec trying some stuff
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azamoff Tech: maybe remove and reinstall plugin?
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Can try that. So weird, though.
T3/r7/2022-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i blame hadar, he does wonky stuff all the time
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Contigo Tech: how are you feeling today, mushclient?
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: very thirsty
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: parched even
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: brb. getting some water
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: do you ever notice how water from the bathroom sink tastes better than from any other faucet in the house?
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weeping Nienna Tech: makes perfect sense to me
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: even the cats agree
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Contigo Tech: it's the ammonia and feces particles that build up in the faucet pipe over repeated toilet flushes
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you know that the toilet doesn't drain into the faucet intake
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Contigo Tech: the particles go airborne due to the flushing
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Contigo Tech: same reason why you should rinse your toothbrushes before use if you keep them in the toilet!
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I will try not to keep my toothbrush in the toilet
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Contigo Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: though...if you think about it...
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: anything that came out of you is probably safe for you since it was in you from the start
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Contigo Tech: this makes sense
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I bet you could brush your teeth with your own feces, just not with someone else's
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i was thinking it'd be nifty if mapper could turn on compact mode before each speedwalk, then turn it off when you arrive at your destination
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: does it not?
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Togra Tech: I think I have it where the map doesn't show during the run, but I had to switch a setting somewhere
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: mine is weird. sometimes theres no blank spaces in between rooms but most of the time ghere are
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yeah I think I can do this
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what if people don't want it though?
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i also see no blanks between rooms, fairly rare occurance tho
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: a toggle on/off would be great
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ugh
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I hate toggles
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: probably compacting runs is just better for everyone
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: something causes it to randomly happen sometimes, and it looks better imo
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ok but this will only affect runs initiated by the mapper
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: which is everything SnD does correct?
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: not mine
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: darn, the game's compact mode doesn't compact runs. I'll have to eat the line breaks.
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i guess its weird that compact mode doesnt get rid of the blank lines in of itself
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I agree that is weird. You should report it as a bug on the bugs board.
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I don't see any reason for the game's compact mode to not compact runs.
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yah
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: anyway, if you get lasher to fix compact not compacting runs, I'll make it so that runs get compacted for everyone
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: sounds good
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you haven't reported it yet :(
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yes milord
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IAC DO Fiendish enthusiastically high-fives Gaballon!
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: when that gets fixed, I'll make the mapper toggle compact during runs for players who are not using compact
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gaballon cheers and sings... he is just BURSTING with joy!
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I suppose if it doesn't get fixed I'll deal with it another way, but I'd rather just do it this way
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What is more time-efficient at SH? Pupping against evil/good mobs as usual or using Gokaden to go neutral after killing 8 or so mobs so you remain neutral?
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Whoops, mischan
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: HALP! I received a notice that Norton360 was renewed for 24 months at $464 and they said if I want a refund to click their very non-suspicious link, sent by a person who has a gmail account! HALP! I don't have $464!
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: hey so fun story, if you call them
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: I swear...they get worse and worse....
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i'm sure you can just take care of it by sending them $300 in target gift cards
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: they don't actually want money
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley wipes his brow with obvious relief.
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Thanks, Anssett!
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly at 404 Eroe.
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: they want you to let them remote into your system to prepare it for the "security" department.
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, that's it? Security is very important! I must call them now!
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: tell them that your name is kitboga or pierogi or jim browning and you're giving them the opportunity to work for expoure on your youtube channel
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: so I had like 6 of them trying to figure out how to get team viewer working on windows 98
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anssett snickers with 404 Eroe about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: I just put my phone down and worked while they all researched, then 15 minutes or so in I was like... I also have an alexa powered wireless toaster, can you remote into my wirleess toaster? much rage, they hung up on me. I was just trying to be helpful.
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley cackles gleefully at 404 Eroe.
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: one day i will have enough free time to set up a honeypot vm and play along
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: I want to do that.
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I am gleefully laughing over here at work now. And I'm getting strange looks.
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: just to see what they install.
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: I'll just live vicariously through the youtubers 
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: I am far too lazy to set up my own
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: definitely Kelaire, i get much pleasure out of scammer tears
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sometimes, I take their email address and sign them up for as many sites as possible. I really should use Power Automate to do that now.
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: There are websites for that Crowley....you enter an email and BOOM it's spam city
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Rather than doing it yourself
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: at work i usually get the "may we email you a white paper about <random tech product>?" they are not hearly as much fun to play with
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Even easier. Hmm.
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Yes, it's called 'linkedin'
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers with Not an Imm Erikson about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: ha
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 404 Eroe nods at Not an Imm Erikson and says, "I concur." Why didn't you?!
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: what site is good for non verified mailing list sign up? 
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yo, I hate LinkedIn. I can't even unsubscribe from them.
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Togra Tech: yeah the spam at work is distinctly differently flavored than spam at home, they've gotten smarter. not smart enough for me to click on anything but they're trying
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: what's your email address Mushambo, i'll uh. send you the url.
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: >.>
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: <.<
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anssett nods at Togra.
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: I like the forms because you can automate those
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: when the texas group set up their anti women site I bot filled it out with random insults about ted cruz, they got a couple thousand before they blocked me. so then I just went to VPN and found out others were doing the same.
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: One day, I may take one of my old laptops, wipe it clean, and use that to mess around with scammers. I'll forward the links to a temp account, and let them have their fun and realize they've wasted their time when there's nothing but fake identities on that computer.
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: bettere than me.. i waste my time out of spite trying to spam them back
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i'd love to get hold of the fake banks that some of the scambaiters use, just to really have fun with it, but i imagine they don't really give their resources away
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: i cant seem to fix my labyrnth hiccup, it keeps using portal and then gets stuck in the beginning cooridor it tries to move then aborts speedwalk cuz the only possible movements in the beginning cooridor are north or south, i tried moving the mark but didnt help. 
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: its prob something simple and i dont get it :(
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: you need to go to the south of Queen Jula, then do a mapper cexit north
T3/r7/2022-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: hey anyone familiar with .net/nuget and wanna be a pal for a question?
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boi Zyanya Tech: does anyone know where Zafrusteria's chaos portal script stores its data?
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: have you checked it's stare file
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i mean state* of course
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boi Zyanya Tech: yep, just 3 variables in there
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bardis Tech: how can I get my mapper window back, think is off screen, mapper help works, mapper show not working
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: you can use aard layout help
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madadh Tech: So I installed regular mush client before I installed the aardwolf version, but I can't get it to be anything other than the main terminal.  Anyone got any ideas on how to deal with that in Mush?
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bardis Tech: thanks it work :)
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As you've been told before, by myself and even Fiendish, uninstall all old versions of MUSH that you have. Install the AardMUSH version. Or install it to a completely separate location. Then open it up from the new install folder.
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: if you need another person to say it, i will too. heavy mushclient user for years, but for the aardwolf build i use a separate installation folder
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: although if my word carries more weight than fiendish on this particular issue then you need to re-evaluate something hah
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley is agreeing with that Anssett person again...
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purriffic Growltiger Tech: any way to run mush on an ipad?
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: remote desktop to a windows machine? :D
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purriffic Growltiger Tech: heh
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I doubt you could run MUSHclient on iPad. Remoting in is the best option. It's what I do, anyway.
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: https://github.com/nickgammon/mushclient - if you're reaaaally wanting to try to make that work, i believe that's the source
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: it'd take a complete rewrite probably
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i strongly doubt that ipad supports c++ applications etc
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purriffic Growltiger Tech: I'll let Driven know :)
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purriffic Growltiger Tech: I'll stick with desktop.
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madadh Tech: Just wanted to say thanks for the help...seem to get caught up in stuff and forget, appreciate the assistance and patience
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sure thing. Hope it all got sorted out for you!
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madadh Tech: uninstalled, reinstalled to a new folder, gets a bunch of plugin errors
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What folder did you install to?
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Should not be getting plugin errors.
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madadh Tech: installed to d:\mushclient
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madadh Tech: it was in program files(x86) before
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Definitely do not install it into protected locations.
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What plugin errors were you getting?
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: why doesn't dinv set wear consider weight when its picking weapons?
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I'm not sure I follow, it should by default because the game won't allow you to get around weight restrictions?
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: if you're trying to dual weapons, it considers weight...
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: then why does it get it wrong?
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, that's about as vague as you can get with a problem.
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: I have a problem.
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Did you do a refresh all after half-weighting items?
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: it wants to wield my dual ewapon and dual my wield wepon...clearly it is ignoring weapon weight
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yes its been doing this for several remorts now
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: been trying to catch durel on but hes been away
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Did you "dinv forget" the weapon first before refreshing?
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes, Durel has some real life issues to deal with, may be away for several months.
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok so you might suggest i dinv forget the two weapons and dinv refresh and try again?
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Whenever making changes to items, you typically have to 'forget' them and then refresh. DINV stores things in caches, so it's easily accessible without having to identify everything over again.
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: When an item is already cached, DINV skips over it on refreshes.
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No need to identify something that DINV already knows about, and all that.
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: but i thouch it did if you changed weight or tpenchanted etc?
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: well now it gets it right
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: thx
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: well i did dinv refresh after halfwieghting and i guess it registaered one as halfwieth and missed the other i assume it still had heavier wight for some reason
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Heh, it's why when you envenom or temper weapons, you have to "forget it" and "refresh it"
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok i'll remember that
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: actually halfweighted last tier when i got my 231 aard
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madadh Tech: Was able to get the aardwolf client to work by installing a later vs of the package it seems!  Thanks for the help with this, pretty nifty
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Congratulations, Madadh!
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madadh Tech: Is there a good mushclient site for random stuff like carriage returns and the whot not?
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: has anyone successfully forced Win11 to "always show options" for right clicking on files in Explorer? 
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: You need to edit some registry files to force the context menu to show for everything, otherwise you can do the more limited method of going into folder options of file explorer and the view tab and advanced settings and "force folders to open in seperate process"
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: If you feel bold enough to edit the registry do this and restart your pc: reg add HKCU\Software\Classes\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32 /ve /d "" /f
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: (do that in command prompt)
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: that works for all win11?
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: afaik
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qyx Tech: what's the easiest way to disable triggers (or aliases etc). can I send them to something that does nothing?
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: uncheck the enabled box
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: i gotchu homie
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Name them (label) then do EnableTrigger("labelname", false)
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: . http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=EnableTimerGroup
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: .http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?searchfor=timer
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So close, Hellion!
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qyx Tech: thanks enabled box prob easiest :)
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qyx Tech: or not?
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: rip both of us failed
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Depends on how many you want to disable or enable.
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: i put mine to a hot key so i can start or stop a timer/trigger
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You have to go through the GUI to tick the box.
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hellion, Qyx wants triggers/aliases, not timers.
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: if u have a trigger for finish cp well go get another one? if u do what i do... and save lowerplanes for last ... u will be lost
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Have to go through it to edit every one and label them and add the code to something else to disable them
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: u can group and then disable group tho
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qyx Tech: i want to keep trigger maybe for later but just want to turn it off
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: just uncheck the box
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: thats how i did it, my links should be helpful :/
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes, but better to just label them now (the ones you want to disable) than have to go through it every single time you want to enable/disable them.
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: ^^
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Alternatively, you can put them all into one group and just do: EnableTriggerGroup("groupname", true/false)
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: -.-
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qyx Tech: ohh i see. was only 1 for now but i'll read up on this. will be handy later :)
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: its easy and ye super handy
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qyx Tech: thanks guys :)
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: take it from a sql guy i.e., someone who doesnt code but prtetends ... its easy
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qyx Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley smirks.
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: how do i rename my session in mush i accidentally renamed it?
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: alt+enter
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: anybody know how to get rid of a S&d window?
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I heard a Ruckus Tech: xset win off
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: didn't work, even rinstalled the plugin and still didn't work
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: xset is uknown command
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I heard a Ruckus Tech: if you're the crowley snd xset win on and xset win off toggle the snd window on and off...have to type the whole command
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: nokian s&d
T3/r7/2022-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hmm... So... This is a hard question to explain but... When I finish a quest I've got an alias that previously took me to the aardhotel to finish the quest... It used mapper goto to make the mapper try to get out of noportal/norecall rooms...
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Now I'm using my manor mob instead... But the mapper goto-command doesn't seem to treat it the same way (move out of noportal/norecall areas before using the home command)
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Is there a way to make my mapper understand that "home" also requires me to get out of noportal/norecall?
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: mapper help portals
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Should I add "home" as a portal perhaps?
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: tech type mapper portals to see what the index of your home command is, then mapper portalrecall <index> to mark it as a recall command
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oooh! That's what the portalrecall command is for?
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Nice! Thank you Tiny!
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: What's the command to see all commands being sent again?
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Or rather, have the mud echo all commands being sent
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: help search echo - i think you're looking for echocommands
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: That's the one! Thanks :)
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anssett holds his thumb up at nothing in particular.
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: not a question but an observation: somebody was asking for an iPad port yesterday :D
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: sucks for them
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: lol
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: I'd also like a million bucks. neither is going to happen
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: technically it might be possible now but....
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so here's the plan...
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: first you run a linux vm compiled to webassembly in mobile Safari https://leaningtech.com/webvm-server-less-x86-virtual-machines-in-the-browser/   then you install Wine on it. Then you can run MUSHclient
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i think we collectively told him to use RDP to a windows box with aardmush running
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it'll be a heck of a download every time you want to play, but how bad can it be tbh
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: but your answer might let him do it without that haha
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: not an unreasonable middleground
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: I might give that a go if I could make clickable buttons in mush to send commands :P
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: of course mushclient isn't designed for a touch interface...like...at all
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you can make clickable buttons!
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: there's a certain elegance in the complexity haha
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: must be some hax to do that, not like Input->Buttons or such where I'd first think to look :)
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: If you don't care about the buttons being fancy, actually I make making basic clickable buttons relatively easy https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Easy-DIY-Miniwindows has an example
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: If you can get khadaji to come back, he was making a very cool set of animated graphics buttons
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: dunno why that idiot froze himself
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: self control 
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: anyway, if you look at the link I just posted, making a floating window with buttons that do stuff when you click them is not very hard
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: presumably because ripping people off doesn't make you a good clan member and he couldn't find no love!
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: that is nifty, yeah I can see how that would work using miniwindows...more involved setup setup I've seen for basic button-ing needs, but worth it for all the rest of the f(x) that comes w/ mush
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: thanks for that fiend, it's cool having a path available
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Best part is you can still use all the other Window functions to do other things! Like, my AardClock is very functional using the DIY windows, and my calendar, too!
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: direct link to the button example https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Easy-DIY-Miniwindows#clickable-buttons-example
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: did you get the clock to spin the right way, crowley?
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think one of my absolute favorite features is that you can do my_window:fit_contents() and it'll automatically adjust the window size based on its contents without you having to figure it out yourself.
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at IAC DO Fiendish.
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: fit_contents only works for text contents though. I haven't added it for other graphic elements
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Right, that's what I mean. :)
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: though I plan to try
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Graphics are fickle, though.
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or more complicated, I feel.
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it'll just look for pixels that aren't the same color as the background
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ooh, smart.
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hopefully it's not too slow
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it's going to be a lot of requests
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What I want to do next is create a function that will resize the contents in the window to always fit. :p
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: like make it bigger?
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Make it bigger, smaller, whatever it needs to do. With text, for example, decrease or increase the font depending on the window size.
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it'll be interesting if you get it to work
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: in my experience, font metrics at different in-between sizes don't preserve the same ratios
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at IAC DO Fiendish.
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: though speaking of ratios, I still need to add interline spacing control to the text_rect module
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: width="100%" there done , web design is easy, go back to your framework dungeon
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: lol, i wonder if there's any plans of adding graphis to mobs, so for example, when you're fighting monsters, a small screen displays the mobs you're fighting :D Turn aardwolf gradually into a rendered 2d game :D
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: go draw me a picture for every mob in the game
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox flicks his whip across Iron Duck Chuft's bare back. 
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: One project I want to eventually undertake when I'm not swamped with schoolwork is maintaining centering of an image regardless of size of the window, too. For example, if I resize my clock, the clock stays to the left, and I'm left with all the extra space to the right of it.
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: No, draw 10 pictures, and then recolor them like old JRPGs
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: everything look like a dragonquest slime monster
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Heh, just reskin Minecraft images.
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: or just have it, stacked, as M/O/B
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: https://www.tk421.net/wizardry/graphics/monst.gif 
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: it would be cool in PVPs as players can start designing their own graphics haha
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: might get dicey knowing some of you guys :P
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Pfft, if it's PVP, I would just put up an image of a donkey.
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i had used this clickable icon bar before.  edited to add other commands and expanded the icon bar.  https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=9359&page=3. 
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: Is there anyone who is really good with marcos than has a few minutes to walk me through something?
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: polo
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Calm Stormwind looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Qyx snickers with A Calm Stormwind about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: anyone else.... :D
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: jk, I'll send you a tell
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: apparently T-mobile doesn't accept "short list verification codes" ... Paypal wants me to call T-mobile to request a change to my account, so I can log into PP :-(
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: so what's the best way to hide non-work usage of a work-related laptop? 
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Don't do it?
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: dont think you can if they have the right software but if you do mud from a web client thats probably safest
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: I mean, depending what you're trying to hide....incognito mode, clearing cache and cookies and such, and vpns.  But even still depending what they have have watching you...you're not hiding much
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: and for porn just get your porn in braille
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: so pretty much rule out installing a VM ? not exactly a dedicated IT team 
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: What is it that is trying to be done?  Like what is the objective to hide what?
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: I figured I'd install some Windows games on their fancy new hardware
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: I mean that kind of thing, yeah...maybe a VM
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: u workin from home? or this is in the office?
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: but given they're using VPN, i better steer clear anyway and not take the risk
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: If your traffic is forced through a VPN means anything you send (packets) are easily tracable and can be looked at (if they have suspicions...doubt they are just looking)
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: to my credit (maybe?), i'd only pondered misuse of corporate property during non-working hours
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: so ... 7.5 hours out of your day?
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: put a vm on a thumb drive, so nothing needs to be installed on the laptop - that will prevent _most_ of the stuff that would otherwise get left on the laptop.
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: I was going to suggest a VM on a thumb drive...but if he wants to play games and get performance...that won't help :-p
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: as for network traffic - you can in principle use a vpn to conceal the _contents_ of your connection, but the fact of it? nope.  only way to do that is to use a different network entirely - which would also leave traces on the laptop.
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: well I still have to connect to MY network, so presumably I can use it outside of the VPN as well?
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: so the real question is, what exactly do you not want them to know?
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: the bosses wont be monitoring traffic on your personal network, probably.
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: but if you are on your personal network anyway, why not just use your personal machine?
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: well i think the bigger concern is if games would pose a security risk to their network, which I'm guessing is potentially yes
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: no worries, non-Aard games probably aren't worth playing anyway
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There are non-Aard games?
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: I didn't know such things exist
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: there are two major concerns for the it department.  one is the potential for the machine to be compromised, and leveraged into an attack vector on their other systems, or used to gain illicit access to the work you personally are doing.
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: they're on a "TV" sometimes too
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: https://youtu.be/wgZlQbDY6QA
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: and of course, they dont want the loss of 'productivity' that would result from non-work stuff being on the machine.
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: that video will answer a lot of your questions
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: so at home, just use your personal machine for gaming - and at work, you could i guess hotspot your phone, connect to it instead of the company network, and run a vm on a thumb drive - but that will introduce some nasty lag.  maybe just stick with aard, or solitaire?
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: whole desire was to play Windows games (this NUC is linux) .. I'm probably better off looking up wine configuration 
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: win in vm, on thumb drive.
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: wine, or win, you know - whatever.
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Menpehtyre Tech: Hi smart people! If Im using MUSHclient on a desktop OS and want to keep logs, etc., up to date, and also want to be able to mud from my phone, is there a way to do this that doesnt involve using Chrome Remote Desktop or something like it? Mostly asking for a sanity check here
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: not that I know of, could maybe rig something up with logging in phone's mud client with logs getting forwarded to some centralized location
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Menpehtyre Tech: thanks! Pretty much what I thought, but good to have it confirmed. 
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: was just thinking about that a little more, I guess a possible option there would be to use something like duckbat's mud proxy which I think other players have iterated on to serve as kind of a middle man for the connection to aard and then handle logging within that proxy
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nothing I've fiddled with myself, but didn't occur to me at first so figured I'd share :)
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: https://code.google.com/archive/p/proxymud/ is his old code for that in case interested (think it's in need of updates if fiddling with much) 
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: where do mushclient babies come from?
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient storks
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hellion takes notes...
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make it Reyn Tech: plugins....
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: how much mush could a mushclient mush if a mushclient could mush mush?
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: who can say
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parian Melfiss Tech: is there a quick and easy way to kill my capslock key and turn it into shift instead ?
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parian Melfiss Tech: I know it's possible via the registry but that is a bit confusing
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parian Melfiss Tech: what is the difference between <include name="constants.lua"/> and just require "constants" ?
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GabeLogan Tech: command for mush resize
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: you mean aard layout reset?
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GabeLogan Tech: thats it thank ya
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: what's the command to lock the windows in mushclient
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: aard layout lock
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Can of Pringle Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: thou shall stay
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm having fun with Power Automate. Just got it to automatically upload documents that I save from our connected offices to the patient's chart, saving me tedious work.
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: power automate is amazing.
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: use it heavily for Dynamics and integrations.
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And... now I gotta stop using it. Thanks for ruining it, Stormwind.
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: you're welcome! ;)
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: things like power automate are the future of programming.
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Only difficulty right now is trying to make sure it can find the window, since the program isn't native to Power Automate, but it seems the window information keeps changing.
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think I have it working flawlessly now, though.
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: so much it can do it's crazy.
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: we use it to integrate our core DB, to Dynamics (which is the system of record) for all of our leads, and then push them out to various other automations for the sales/real estate teams.
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nice, not bad. I'll wind up using it to pull our colonoscopy and endoscopy reports, scan the text for biopsy or polyps, and generate letters based on what it has found.
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm just really happy I got our IT to grant me admin rights so I can install Power Automate. Soon, I'll have it all in the office. :P
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions?
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: my status bar seems to be missing how do i get it back?
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: prompt
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: no not my prompt...my mush health bar
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: have you tried to reload the plugin?
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make it Reyn Tech: looks like "reset_aard" might trigger that particular plugin but not sure what else would be impacted
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: everyone should have a layout saved that they can restore when needed
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: well i think i moved it off the window by accident
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: anyone love coding and tech stuff? i know a certain company that is hiring
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ooh ooh me too
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: reset_aard isn't gonna erase all my profile will it?
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yunalesca Tech: I'm currently looking for a software dev job (intern / junior)
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yunalesca Tech: What company is it?
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: can't tell you,. it's a secret.
T3/r7/2022-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: aard layout reset will reset the layout of the original plugins
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkfist Tech: I've tried 2 different SnD things but both won't pick up the first mob in the list.  Is it some setting I have wrong?
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I heard a Ruckus Tech: try disabling pagesize for a sec and give it a shot...sometimes pagesize interferes with my snd
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I heard a Ruckus Tech: even though snd says it's disabling it when it needs to, it doesn't really sometimes
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkfist Tech: still does it, but a few refreshes and it cuaght it, so maybe that helps thanks
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I heard a Ruckus Tech: i've found that if xset index areas isn't working for me...pagesize is also the culprit
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: am I the only one who has trouble with the coral kingdom when using xrt?
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: xrt works fine for me for coral without any special setup, I just hafta navigate maze when I get there
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: It always goes up for my instead of down and idk. so im running around the ocean
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: huh odd, I've heard folks suggest doing a "mapper purgeroom" on the first room of the area and then speedwalking/portaling back to that room fresh
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: it also keepings typing adding the word "here" as a seprate command
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: but I dont have that as a cexit in the area
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's not xrt, though. It's how your mapper is set up.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you type 'mapper where 4565', you'll see what xrt is sending.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: ok, so I see that "here" is a cexit in the southern ocean
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: yeah, I just deleted the cexit from the southern ocean, not even sure how it got there
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Whenever someone has a problem with 'xrt', the first thing they should always look at is what 'mapper where' tells them the directions are.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: there's this annoying tapping sound with my snd, how can i remove it?
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: xset sound
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: thanks, really was making my music experience bad
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: well , it is helpful but damn. i thought they added wooden spoons to hip hop
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you know, you could just stop tapping your feet while doing quests...no tapping sounds there
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Whatever you do, don't type 'spmute'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or do, and I can send you beatriffic tells. :P
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: did it. 
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: thank god it said enabled. and I didnt have to do anything else but do it twice to remove.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The most annoying part is when you have info pups/levels on, and you just hear a steady stream of 'beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beepbeep' :p
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that is just aliens talking to you. 
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fun fact, when I was getting my associate's, my nickname was 'Alien' because I always managed to ace all the classes.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: no need to worry, they aint going into your brain and trying to make you a bot. you already are
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: how did you knowqw lich
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: thats not why they called you that crow
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: mis
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: xD
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Another fun fact, Facebook will not allow you to nickname yourself 'Alien' because apparently it's uber-offensive.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers with Dixon about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: actually crowley, you can make yourself alien in facebook. just need to go around it and use alt-255
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I attempted to put 'Alien' as part of my name, and Facebook said it was not allowed. I was sad.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley smirks at Odorless Nuanse's saying.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley tickles a clockwork golem.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it is kinda funny how after 30 years that keycombo still works to go past supervision
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley smirks.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech:  blah
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that had alt-255 in it
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: even mushclient shows it as "tech -blah" ... it's easiest way to ruin peoples lives
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Long time ago, zMUD had a "bug" where you could put control characters in lines, and anyone with zMUD would see it formatted how you wanted it to be. One of the biggest gags was to do: ft Hey guys, guess what? (line break control character) INFO: Crowley is haunted by wolves. and those with zMUD could be fooled into thinking you just became an Imm.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stuyvesant goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: I don't want to miss out on gqs,is there a way to make it notify me on my pc and phone?
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Go to my Github and look at my Telegram plugin.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Personal notifications to desktop and to your phone.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: nice
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stuyvesant thanks (Aleister) Crowley heartily.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Decided to create that when I wanted to be able to receive tells and get back if it was important.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Took a while, but I then made it public.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: now that's genius
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, now I'm sad. WebOas.is was one of my favorite sites. Apparently the owner took his life last month, though. :(
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: oh dear . sad to hear. sorry
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: are you saying that one web.os system is down because it was community project and only person that held all died?
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: weird. considering that it should be community driven
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Weboas.is, not web.os. The guy curated a bunch of links (torrent sites, tech sites, news, etc) into one site.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: living in island, you almost always consider death as a definite thing.  
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: .is
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: on that. i saw something quite amusing the other day. fail on ui design.. application for death cert. had two options
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: apply for myself or for another person.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: are you dead or not?
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I saw one of those back in day. question tho was "are you dead or not?"
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: nice lol
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: who in the hell even thinks to ask about such?
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: i wonder what the stats are
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirageglobe Tech: 50 50
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: str0 dex0 int0 wis0 luck-5 
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: https://amided.com/
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: whew
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: was worried for a minute
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: "Did you know that most dead people don't actually know they're dead? Roughly 100% of dead people have trouble answering that simple question: Am I dead?. Mostly because their brain doesn't work anymore."
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliera Tech: "I see dead people. They don't know they're dead."
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Father Ya Yamillay Tech: Is it time to panic when your zone alarm firewall won't load?
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Father Ya Yamillay Tech: it just told me "Sorry we've crashed" and then it closed
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: ZoneAlarm is so retro.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Father Ya Yamillay Tech: why do silly things happen to expensive computers?
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Haven't heard that program in years.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Because users do silly things like install ZoneAlarm, or allow it to be installed.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Father Ya Yamillay Tech: I would use "Norton" antivirus but hackers hack it too easily
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Norton is even worse.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barely Driven Tech: how about nod32
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Never even heard of it.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barely Driven Tech: microsoft defender?
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barely Driven Tech: I personally use AVAST
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barely Driven Tech: because pirates life for me yo ho
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's all about McAfee, duh.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Can't trust sites, really, since you don't know if they are paid to promote a product above all else. :p
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barely Driven Tech: what do you use
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, I suppose that depends on which of my laptops I'm using.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Malwarebytes has been one of my go-tos, though.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Work computer has Bitdefender on it.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I also have Advanced System Care.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barely Driven Tech: How do I know you're not paid to advertise malwarebytes or bitdefender!
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Binary Starky Tech: You can go completely without outside security programs at this point, set your UAC, keep windows defender up to date, and the iwndows firewall is good enough on its own. Malwarebytes is good to scan every now and then to make sure but it basically never pops up with anything
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Non-Binary Starky.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The downside with any antivirus is the false positives. If you try to download a set of USB tools for tech work, for example, it'll flag everything under the sun.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: This laptop/tablet, I just use Microsoft's own virus protection.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think that's the same on my other primary laptop.
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's hard to trust a site like PCMag, though, or any "big name sites".
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Father Ya Yamillay Tech: Am I suppose to email "Google" when my accounts won't add to a list so I can log into them?
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Father Ya Yamillay Tech: false alarm... I figured out how to get back into the accounts after a half hour of trial and error with cookie-removal
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Father Ya Yamillay Tech: cookies are bad for your computer's health!
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: Skiff.org is from Moxie (Signal dev) , end-end encrypted doc collaboration tool
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: install linux as main system and then use windows in VM
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gordak Tech: My client (mudlet for MacOS) does not seem to be treating a simicolon as a command delimiter.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if I remember correctly you can change that in settings
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gordak Tech: Yes, thank you.  I can see you set the command delimiter there.  
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tensaw Tech: Morning,all. What's that command to reset MUSHclient window positions? Thanks!
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: aard layout reset
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: anyone with mushclient questions?
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rakiso Tech: Anyone was last on : Wed Dec 22 18:55:20 2021
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: Can mush do my taxes? It's that time of year again.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IAC DO Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: technically it would be possible, but not without a lot of initial work
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: Think about it. you'd have a corner on the nerd tax accountant world.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yeah for like 200 people
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: personally I would not trust me to implement tax rules right
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: more complex than doors? ;)
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: you'd be like - this makes ZERO sense - I'm going to do it a tad different.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: can your miniwindows be made transparent at all?
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yes miniwindows can be made transparent
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: uhh...one sec I'll find you the function
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: im thinking about creating a window with buttons to use with a touchscreen
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: itd only look reasonable if the window and buttons could be transparent i think
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hmm...so there's a flag on miniwindows to set the background as transparent. I would have to modify my easy miniwindows module to use it
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so _my_ miniwindows don't support it yet but WindowCreate does
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'll add that for the next release
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it might look a little funny though
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: consider that you'll want _some_ kind of visible element for dragging it around with
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: hmm yea
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: would you be ok with having just the body of the miniwindow be transparent but still have the titlebar and frame?
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: or even just the titlebar?
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: speaking of, my easy miniwindows don't require a title. if you leave the title field blank it won't have a titlebar and will instead make the window draggable by its body
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: For me, the best approach for something like that would be to have the frame 25% opacity. That way, you know where the boundaries are, but it's not intrusive enough to really be a hinderance. Maybe even 10%.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If that is at all possible.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: tricky
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: might be technically possible, but not worth the effort to figure out
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yeah, 25% would be good. however it is still above everything. 
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at IAC DO Fiendish.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: imo transparency just isn't worth the bother
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: im just brainstorming. im not sure i actually have the technical skills to create this
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i was envisioning having the window on top of the mud output, so itd need to be at least semi-transparent
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you want to use PC touch screen to play? or android >
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: and you couldn't just cover _part_ of the screen instead of all of it? :)
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: -
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i use my surface tablet to play a lot. i was thinking one window for left hand and one for right, but i guess it could be one large window.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: screen space is a luxury on tablet, so itd only work if its on top of the output
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i dont want to make thr mud output smaller than it already is
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cannot you just add 6 dirs pad + kill command for explore mode, and single key for pup/cp/gq/quest mode ?
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: what do you mean by 'pad'? the window would essentially be a virtual keypad
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean something like android client has - a tiled square
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yea, something similar to what blowtorch lets you do
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so yes, virtual keypad with move tiles + kill
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: my understanding is that MUSH natively doesnt allow you to create that
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: actually, maybe you do not need even mini-win for that, you just need to catch touch events 
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean you do not need mush for that, you just need to send key pressed to mush window
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: ya maybe autohotkey would work
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: im not familiar with cresting viisual elements with that
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: well either way I can experiment with allowing the transparent flag on my easy miniwindows and see how well it works 
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: sounds like Blowtorch tbh
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yes basically the same as blowtorch
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: I tried to download blowtorch for my kindle a few years back but it was a non supported platform.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: teamviewer. easiest way to use your homecomputer for mudding *snicker
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: works wonders with tablets
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: teamviewer is easy but it's probably less performant than RDP
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: VNC as free alternative, though probably not as convenient as teamviewer
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I use Anydesk because Teamviewer sucks balls. I've been blocked out of my personal account several times even though all I do is remote into my home computer to MUD. They are convinced I'm using it for commerical purposes and not personal.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I find AnyDesk to be pretty decent, too, and runs smoother, in my opinion.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think they have becom a bit more strict recently, I guess just enough if several persons use teamviewer behind NAT and have same public IP
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: teamviewer/VNC just sends jpegs of the screen. something doing proper Windows RDP will draw the window frames locally
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so RDP transmits less information 
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: do you really care if you just play mud?
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IAC DO Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: how do i enable background noise from mushclient ?
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beelbo Tech: in a trigger?
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: any noise the client makes i wanna hear when im alt tabbed, like tells for example
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I heard a Ruckus Tech: you mean the soundback? sphelp
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I heard a Ruckus Tech: er soundpack
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: ty
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: aard sounds background
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: in recent versions
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the soundpack plugin itself no longer has anything to do with whether sound gets played while mushclient is backgrounded
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: \\\\\\SetOption ("play_sounds_in_background", 1)
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: too many \
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: ty everyone and negader :P
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I heard a Ruckus goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i think only 3 needed
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: but if using it from alias. need 6
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you don't need an alias if you update to a newer release of the aardwolf mushclient package since I made an alias for it already
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: perfect my thingy is one \
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: i changed it but i got it 
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: oh funny, there's a bug in movewindow that undoes transparency when you drag
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: anyone else experiencing this:  Last Hour we got 0 and spent 0 for a total of 1 with hadars tracker? started yesterday. as far as I see it's simple +- calculus. it shouldnt report 1 extra gold at any point? this started yesterday. 
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: restarted mush and all still happening
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: is there a command to set the current room noportal? without getting the room id first
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: how would you get noportal room unless you know the id?
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: if your portal bounces the room will get marked
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you would know the room id 
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: right, but some rooms say "Magic walls bounce you back"
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: that doesnt autoset the room as noportal
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: those rooms will get flagged
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: oh ok
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: mapper will make it noportal automatically at that point
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: if it's not, you may need to update
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: or fiendish did a bug into his scripts
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but this is not a new feature, so anything from the past...I don't know...10 years should work
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just saying, possibility is there
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: theres no confirm that says marking this room as noportal, etc
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: maybe it's already marked?
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: older versions just do it. new ones give message. 
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: perhaps, idk
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: type 'mapper thisroom' 
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: is it flagged as noportal or norecall?
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it has noportal flag yes
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: then it's probably ok
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: so it has already been flagged noportal. 
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: ah i see, ty
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i was doing mapper noportal 40593 true. and nothin happened so wasnt sure if it worked
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: It will only give a message if something changes
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'll change that command to always give a message.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: so the best way to mark all lemdagor rooms as norecall noportal is to try and recall/portal in each room 1 by 1?
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I don't know about best
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: basicly yes
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: do you have recon?
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just do recall and enter in every room
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: do home instead of recall if you have a manor
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: no recon yet. i have a good idea which rooms are portal/recall allowed, but 99% of the rooms arent
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the next release will display a message on the manual noportal and norecall commands even if the status isn't changing
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: cool ty
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sleazy Areia Tech: Anyone familiar with API testing apps alternative to Postman? Bonus points if it's designed to be accessible to screen readers.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I just use curl
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sleazy Areia nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: is postman not accessible? I thought it's an electron app
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I use vim and curl...
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sleazy Areia Tech: Super not accessible. Well, I can make GET requests, assuming I want to use all the default settings... that's about it.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sleazy Areia Tech: It's no biggie, really. Might look around a bit more, but probably will just stick with curl.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I mostly tend to format whatever curl request I want to send in a text editor and then copy/paste it into a terminal
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: yeah I just curl everything or use requests in Python.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sleazy Areia nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sleazy Areia Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: https:/github.com/diepm/vim-rest-console
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: missing a /
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sleazy Areia Tech: Nah, that's how they wrote URLs back in the 1600s.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sleazy Areia runs away from Not an Imm Erikson in utter terror and horror!
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Client probably eats it
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sleazy Areia Tech: Will have a lookie at that, Erik. Thanks for sharing.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make it Reyn Tech: i've used httpie to simplify some testing from terminal before - doesn't add a TON of functionality, but it's convenient
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: why is mushclient only one that you support?
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: because it's more fun than supporting mudlet and I don't like zugg
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: fair enough. then why is your aardmush so much buggy? if you go single client you should know it 
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse grins evilly.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient is a difficult environment to work in which is part of why I enjoy doing it
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: how do make channels appear only in the communication window and not in the main window?
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: right-click on the communication window and toggle the echo
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yeah echo, fiendish has done it already. 
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: echo none
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: why did it take almost 4 years for you to add caravan into mapper ?
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: thanks, what about warfare messages?
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sleazy Areia falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: when did I add caravan to the mapper?
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sleazy Areia Tech: So buggy, Fiendish.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: tab capture settings in right click 
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Gisbourne: that's under non-channel echos
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: probably
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: fiendish, you added it about less than month ago
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I doubt it
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: maybe you added it
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: notes
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the default map database hasn't changed in 4 years
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: so you didnt add caravan into mapper?
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: nope
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what I did was add something to fix the name for people who had already mapped it under the previous name
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: in other words, you added caravan to people that had already mapped it
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I just updated the name
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but caravan isn't in the default database. you have to map it yourself
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: so you did FIX the mapper
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it's more of a sideways change than a fix
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sleazy Areia Tech: It wasn't broken. lol
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sleazy Areia Tech: It wasn't broken. lol
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sleazy Areia Tech: oops
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elfo Tech: areia is broken :)
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I probably called it a "misc change" in my update notes
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: - misc change: The caravan area name is updated in the GMCP mapper.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: if it were a bug fix I'd have called it a bug fix
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It was something that was unprecedented, so Fiendish had to make a change that allowed people with 'Caravan' already mapped to have it update with the new name. *shrug*
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: now if only mapper could differentiate soh and sohii. by level. yes there is couple teachers at soh but mostly outer space should be easy to see and make sure it's the "other" soh
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I don't understand. the mapper does differentiate them.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: one is soh and one is sohtwo
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: not sure if it matters but auction and market are under channel echos but feel like these are non-channels?
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: they are indeed channels as aardwolf defines them
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: fair enough
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: type 'channels list' for the list
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: or maybe just 'channels'
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: channels are messages that arrive via the comm.channel gmcp message, and non-channels are basic triggers
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: non-channels do not arrive via gmcp
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The mapper merely takes the information given it by GMCP and misc info provided by users (such as level locks, custom exits, portals). While SnD utilizes mapper commands, mapper itself is not responsible for determining the location of a mob, and whether it's in area A or area B. Therefore, mapper is working as intended, showing rooms that appear in soh but not sohtwo, and showing rooms that show in sohtwo and not soh. I believe some of the classrooms are in 'sohtwo', for what it's worth.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In fact, room 30752 (A Long Hallway) is part of sohtwo, but not soh.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And a few south and down is 'soh' :p
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Blame builders.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I blame builders everyday. and lasher for allowing such a abomination
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'm sure that Lasher will recover.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: I don't think there's anything to recover from. I don't see any problem with soh 1 and 2
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: can 8 year old builder recover? 
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: The areas are small with simple layouts and clearly defined subareas and mobs. I don't understand your issue.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: soh is special area that is 2 different areas. if you do areas soh you see them separate. yet they are same
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: They are separate areas.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: are they?
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: so why is soh mobs in sohii?
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: They are not.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: are you saying that immortal mobs are not in soh?
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they are not
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: No, they are not. They are in soh2
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: cant see soh2 in areas list. just soh
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's sohtwo
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "area keyword soh"
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: so, howcome fiendish mapper cant differentiate soh and soh2 as this discussion started?
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: It can
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: It has no problem differentiating the two areas. I don't know what you're talking about.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what makes you think it doesn't differentiate between the two?
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: runto already says it : Note: Advanced areas are found within the school.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: runto might be my fault but it's not part of the mapper
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Given that I don't think it's technically possible (or is it? builders correct me if I'm wrong..) for a room to be labeled with two different area codes. So it should also be technically impossible for mapper plugin to have any confusion (unless you've screwed up your database)
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that is correct, Veritheia, a room's "metadata" makes it explicitly clear what area that room is in
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: that area is just yucky
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: budget area
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at least it's not Jenny/Yurgach ;-)
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or beastlands in the planes
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: there definitely are ways for mobs to wander between areas (history student in soh/sohtwo, beastlands) and for s&d to record them in two areas, but has nothing to do with mapper
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: so wouldnt it be possible for fiendish to make sure area that is outer space is sohtwo and allow mapper to run there?
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper can run there
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: It can
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: it's possible you can do it
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: maybe you need to set up the portals?
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what happens when you type "mapper goto 30765"?
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that the mapper has no command to "run to an area"
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's an S&D construct
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Which is more or less just an alias, really
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: abe, I just go to space time. but if I type mapper goto soh2(ii) it doesnt work
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: See what Abelinc just said
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper goto soh2 shouldn't work, that's not a thing
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sleazy Areia Tech: That's because that's not how mapper works :P
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can only goto room numbers
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taliessin Tech: I think what you want to do is "xrt soh2"
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taliessin Tech: since you're using SnD
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yeah, but we are talking about snd here also. xrt here and there. 
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Okay. What does that have to do with mapper?
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, and that will work perfectly fine, provided you perform an xset first
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: veri, snd only uses mapper. so any problems with snd is mapper 
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: No
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that is 100% wrong nuanse
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: SND problems are SND problems
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IAC DO Fiendish giggles.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sleazy Areia Tech: It's all your fault, Fiendish.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sleazy Areia begins to shake his head and tsk into nothingness.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it uses the mapper, but issues with it are not issues with the mapper
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: maybe I should break snd again
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Please do
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sleazy Areia goes ooOOooOOoo at IAC DO Fiendish.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: I agree with nuanse here, mappers issue
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need to declare what room you want xrt to use for any given area...and as we mentioned, soh2 and sohii aren't keywords for sohtwo
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: fix
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: no its problems with the mapper never SND
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd be just as wrong as nuanse, then, Dixon :-)
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: prove it
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I alredy did
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: nope
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: already*
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: need some hard evidence
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: pictures or it didnt happen
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taliessin Tech: l
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: if we blame SND and not the user tech support goes out the window
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: its industry standard to blame the mapper
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: dont blame the mapper, blame fiendish
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but even S&D isn't at fault for Nuanse's issue, that's all pure PEBKAC
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: blame abelinc, that doesn't happen enough
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use xset and use the area's actual keyword, and you can xrt there no problem
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: did you try turning it off and back on?
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pipe down, Zugg :-)
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: khonshu, we cant turn abelic off. he's been here like.. always
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: he can turn anyone else off, though
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You cackle gleefully.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: we can make his twitter go boom with tech messages though
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: I'm gonna set up a toll free number for SND support
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: just need a standard pre recorded message...nothing fancy
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can?
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just say wrong words and you are banned
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: takes longer to write and record the message than it does to set up the line
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't tweet tech messages
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: to be honest, if any of us tried to use your twitter for such things. we would be nuked instantly
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: reason: f* us
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doge Water Yajan peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm not sure how you think you would be using my twitter?
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could retweet or respond, but that wouldn't impact the status of mine
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: don't forget to like and subscribe
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sleazy Areia Tech: I'd do it with the mapper.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sleazy Areia nods quietly to himself.  What a wacko.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: and click that bell!
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not in sohtwo you won't. Mapper can't find it
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Water Yajan Tech: SMASH the %#$%%#$ out of that like button!
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sleazy Areia Tech: Dammit Fiendish.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: meh
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: doesn't surprise me. SND is pretty much like Uber
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: how do i pay people do taxi me to my mobs?
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Since I just returned from lunch, I'm going to respond to the "SnD issues are mapper issues". No, SnD uses mapper commands, alongside SnD aliases. If you go to Outer Space and 'xset mark' the first room there, xrt sohtwo will run you there. There is no 'sohii'. It is not an area keyword, which is what SnD uses to allow you to runto areas. All SnD does is look up the database for marks and says, "Oh, sohtwo is 12345, so I'll execute mapper goto 12345." If it cannot run to that room, it's because there is a link missing between your current room and your endpoint.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: now its use is so widespread its use is accepted
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There is also no 'soh2'.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: it is 'sohtwo'
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: does the plugin ID actually mean someting or is it a bunch of random characters?
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: It's a unique identifier
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes, it means something.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: You can use it to call other plugins, among other things.  So yes, it does mean something
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: right, but if i was starting a new plugin, how to i create the ID
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: edit menu -> generate unique id
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: pluginid = 42069
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: ezpz
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or you can use the function Note(GetUniqueID())
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: What TP said, you can generate one from within mushclient
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: ok ty
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Alternatively, you can use the plugin wizard to create a blank plugin, and it'll automatically generate one for you.
T3/r7/2022-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: hmm "cp check" echoes nothing, returns nothing, and targets don't show up in SND...?
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok odd problem...lbid only shows me winds cards? ibid is not alias, even market list only shows me winds cards?
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: did i beark my market settins or something?
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: sounds more like you do have an alias hijacing the command
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: hijacking both lbid and market list?
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Could be a bug in the winds plugin, but I honestly have no idea if it ties in the market for trading
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: type echocommands to see what you're actually sending to the mud
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: sending lbid
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: and market list
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i have no aliases for lbid or market list
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: then you may have a plugin that is hiding non-card related items..try disabling a winds-related plugin if you have one
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i check the new winds market search last night, now it seems to be stuck on that every time itry to look at the marklet
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ahh yeah meaybe winds plugin bug
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yup reloaded winds plugin i can see market fine now
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: must have gotten stuck in the "on" position
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: triggers should turn themselves off when your not using the search
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: does anybody know of a windows tool that can show line by line diffs of xml files (lua)?
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: just get wsl and do it that way.
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ralyn: Merge is something that will do that. My go-to tool. Let me find it again.
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: vs code
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: I grabbed wsl because having bash is super helpful.
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: anyone elses aard going crazy over Hadar's/Bastmush plugins?
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: fc doesnt do?
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: https://winmerge.org/?lang=en
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Winmerge.
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: thx, will check it out
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: eh, to be fair I usually never manage to get Hadar's plugins to work. I gave up :(
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: You can do it in command prompt
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 404 Eroe enthusiastically high-fives Heracles!
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: a dude after my own heart.
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Just cd path and then fc filename.txt filename.txt
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: anyone familar with this one, this one tried to download in an infinite loop for me. downloading https://raw.githubusercontent.com/thesmallbang/ascripts/master/version.json
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Should still exist as a tool in win11, it did in win10
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Actually, I lied. It's meldmerge that I use, but Winmerge could work, too. I prefer meld, though: https://meldmerge.org
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: https://code.visualstudio.com/ is probably the best code editor ever.
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radric Tech: and it has diff/merge built in
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I use VSCode for my editing now. Haven't played with the diff/merge though but makes sense as it is an MS product.
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: so if you install VS, diff command can be used in command prompt?
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: The fc command can be used regardless, but it is only for basic text based file types.  Won't do things like bin, bash etc.
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: One of my favorite features of Logitech products is Logitech flow, in which I can move my mouse to the side of the screen and it'll switch control to my other laptop.
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I think that was introduced by linux coders around 2008
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: 14 years ago
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: logitech wrote their own synergy?
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: How do I get the SnD window to pop up again?
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: xset win show
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Anssett: I suppose so.
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: They have unifying receivers, so you can connect any compatible device to the receiver, too.
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Katsumoto: You can also do: xset win min and xset win max. :D
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: Crowley, i use your SnD, i was under the impression that if a mob was previously a campaign target, it stores the room the mob was in. so next time it comes up, u can go right to the room. is that correct?
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No, not quite. What it does is remember the locations you've killed the mobs, and then sorts them based on probability. So if you have 10 rooms called 'A dark hallway', but the mob you want has been killed in one room 90% of the time, then you can pretty much guess that is where the mob will be.
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Naricain, though, started sorting it by 'seen', so I need to change it back to sort by 'killed'.
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: right. so the 2nd or 3rd time a campaign mob comes up, shouldn't the room list pop up after typing xcp?
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I could probably throw something like that, but currently, it's not how it works. I am trying to decide how best to tackle it, though.
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: oh ok. i thought it learned what rooms mobs were in, so the next time u got the target it gave u the room to "go" to. but i guess that's just during campaigns that give you the room name
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Gaballon.
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There are some improvements and features I'm working on adding before I release 6.0. :)
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Hmm, xset win show isn't working...
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What happens if you type 'xset win max'?
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Nothing
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: I changed my monitor layout from landscape to portrait
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: neither work for me either
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Aard layout reset allowed me to change everything else, but the SnD window was never there to begin with
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Nevermind, snd reload made the window reappear.  thanks Crowley.
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: holy shit i did it. i created a custom miniwindow
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IAC DO Fiendish enthusiastically high-fives Gaballon!
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: do i have any control over how the button appears? like the color, whether its transparent, etc?
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i have a themed basic window and i added a 3d button
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the easy 3d button will just be a rectangle using the current color theme
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: if you want flat non-3d buttons, you can just make a hotspot though
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: im assuming theres already an app for pc that can assign text to a macro button or keyboard macro. For tablet is the issue right?
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i think autohotkey would be an easier solution to what im trying to accomplish, but im poking around with these miniwindows for now
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: If you have design goals I'm happy to talk about them. The easy miniwindow stuff is meant to be easier than the nightmare mess of making them manually, but obviously it doesn't do everything imaginable
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: if i get it to a spot where it's actually useful, then ill worry about how it looks
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: right now the buttons disappear when i resize the window manually, so thinking about that
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: put the button code inside the draw callback
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: there's a draw_while_resizing or somethign like that
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yep going to move all the button adds to my function called after resize
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the alternative obviously is to just not make the window resizeable :)
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i have a show_stuff function to create the window and draw the buttons, then at the bottom I call show_stuff(). problem is i can't set the resize function to show_stuff(), it doesnt like that
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: im just throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks atm
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: don't I have an example for how to set the resize function?
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: the example im looking at using a text window, which i guess doesn't require a resize function
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: oh wow, hmm, I guess I'm missing an example for that
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, you kind of left us in the dark with that one. *shifty*
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: gimme a minute to whip one up
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: weird to me that the themed window has resize functions that appear to be necessary, but text window doesn't
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: I think the text windows grow as more text is added.
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: but my eyeballs are busted and I have no actual clue, so it's just a wild guess
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: a basic text window is really meant for you to just add text to. if you resize them they hook into the text re-wrapping functionality of my text_rect module
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: TextWindow is just a thin cover over a BasicWindow with a text rect connected to a scrollbar
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but Basic is ...well...basic
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<<legion>> Slips Tech: keep it simple stupid
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: im just trying to think why someone would want all their buttons or w/e other elements to disappear after resizing
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: instead of just by default showing everything again
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it might be possible to do that
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but consider what happens when you're making the window larger instead of smaller
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the newly exposed area has...nothing in it
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: theres so many possible uses it's hard to say. im using the bodyleft, bodyright, etc as anchors for all my buttons
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: so if they resize, it moves the buttons bc those anchors change
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: that's exactly the right thing to do
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sivak Tech: I like the window captures for help files
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hey, you guys are hitting upon what I wanted for the clock plugin! Resizing gave space instead of centering or making the clock bigger, etc.
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: how you choose to use the time spent in the do_while_resizing and do_after_resizing functions is up to you
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: oh wait, I do have an example for it already
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Easy-DIY-Miniwindows#basic-drawing-example does it
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: note the two additions of my_draw in the ThemedBasicWindow creation
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: mmk let me give this a whirl
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i think my syntax maybe was just wrong. i put "show_stuff()" instead of "show_stuff" maybe
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ah, yes, you don't want to call the function there, just pass it in
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it's saying "here, call this function later"
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yay, ty, it works now
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: cool! save up your questions for later. gonna run off now
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: did someone say they have a key anti dupe thing? 
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I just accidentally dropped my glasses case on my keyboard and it somehow hit CTRL + ALT + Delete. HOW?!
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is there easy way to move windo that is out of screen? basically I used wide screen and moved some windows to right edge, now I switched back to narrow screen and those windows are out of visible area
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though I could aardreset - I would rather drag single window back to viewport
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess I could alter plugin state file?
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: check help for miniwin you need. should have windowposition option to set with commands
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: most have it. not all though
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I suggest looking at aard layout help. You can save different layouts and restore them as needed, so you can create two layouts, one for wide screen and one for narrow screen.
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: thanks for help!
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: is there a layout command to remove amarufox?
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Unfortunately, Amarufox has been stickied into permanent position by his need to ruffle your feathers, since, you know, tar and feathers and all.
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox assists Iron Duck Chuft in picking up his feathers.  Luckily, they seem to be numbered for just such an emergency.
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I editet plugin state file - that was aard_gmcp_mapper - first checked plugin ID in plugin .xml , then found state file with name containing that plugin ID, then removed plugin, altered state file, installed plugin (remove plugin was necessare - as in case of reinstall/reload it just saves its position just before reloading)
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft succumbs to his vulpine nature and yiffs Amarufox!
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Trachx, if you update MUSHclient, you'll lose those changes. Seriously, use 'aard layout save wide' and 'aard layout save narrow' and just restore them as needed. Much easier and much cleaner.
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that "aard layout" seems pretty useful thing
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: has anyone ever gotten Blowtorch to use variables in a trigger?
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: yes
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: but they dont work for too long it seems
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: is it me or is "market search closing" wrapping early?
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you mean it drops items from list before they end? haven't noticed
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: I'm on blowtorch, did I miss a change, all the lines seem longer and the times wrap now.
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes, you missed a change.
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Extra column added because market can now go up to 20 billion.
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Had to accommodate for the extra digit.
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: so yeah, blame all the t9's with too much money. 
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: can we go back and hack off 1 column off the item description then?
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: or you could turn your phone sidewys
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: sideways
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: it is in landscape, thanks...
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: couple of my nokia are also in landscape. trash as they were
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: depending on your device blowtorch must occasionally have its cache cleared
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khonshu Tech: my advice is backup your settings before and reload them after
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: is there a way to get mushclient to autosave aliases?
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Game > Config > IP > Save World on Close
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Might be the closest thing
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: off the top of my head
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: how do I download a tf file and make it a txt file?
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: right click, save as, hope it's actually text and just rename it to .txt? not familiar with .tf
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: apparently it means Tinyfugue
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: that sounds familiar
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: mud client of some sort yeah?
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: idk
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: Does it make a diff that its a scrpit and not a plugin?
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: so you want a file that you don't know what it's for? confused. :p
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: open it with notepad++
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: its from a page of scrpits/plugins for mush. thats all I know
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i'd be highly surprised if mush could run anything off tinyfugue without some heavy modification
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: http://home.insightbb.com/~nathanj/aard/
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: you think textedit will work instead of notepad++?
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: any text editor should work. assuming that the file is a text file already
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: yea just open it, you can use notepad.exe
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: doesn't matter what you use, npp is convenient with right click integration into windows :P
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: if you click on it it shows you the text file on my firefox
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: windows? What is that? :P (mac user here)
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: yeah that's not scripts for mush, that's scripts for aard. important difference. textedit should be fine
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: sad. one or two of those looked fun. I bet their are mush versions of most of them though
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: and glancing quickly at them, you definitely can't just drop them into mushclient :p
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: my mapper doesn't seem to work in the wayward alehouse, is this just me?
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: nope, not having that problem
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: hmm, I don't remember having any issues w/ my mapper in alehouse
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: I do have issues with wayfarer though. I think I need to update .:P
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: it works on the continent outside and it works in verdue once i walk through but not in the alehouse
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: same ronin
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: describe "doesn't work"
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: the map just doesn't change once I walk into the area then refreshes once I leave
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: the small map window works, just not the large colourful one (sorry don't know how else to describe them)
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: try removing the zone from mapper: mapper purgezone alehouse
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: it says Syntax: mapper purgezone <keyword> Try 'mapper areas' for a list of area keywords.
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: did this just start happening or has it been persistent? have you tried reloading the mapper plugin?
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: I just noticed it now, don't think it has happened before
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: i only noticed it because snd wouldn't runto verdure estates
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: restarting the mapper plugin
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: haven't tried restarting the plugin, how do I do that?
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: file -> plugins aard_gmcp_mapper reinstall
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: this won't delete portals cexits I've put in?
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: no
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: tried it, it didn't fix it
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: hm, not sure then. odd that it would just not recognize an area.
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: if i'm in the alehouse and type mapper thisroom it says I have to look first to load the area
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: looking gives me room description but doesn't load the mapper
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: is there a way to make snd runto the start of the area your quest mob is in if it knows the area but not the exact room?
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: go 0
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: yes. use rt to runto the start of an area or simply find any room you want to make the start of and area, then type "xset mark"
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Binary Starky Tech: You can also type xrt [area name] and it'll run to the entrance you have set
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: so go 0 doesn't work, is that because I haven't set a room to be the start of the area?
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: or right click go in the miniwindow
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: rght click go, goes to area beginning
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: right click doesn't work and go 0 didn't work but xrt [area name] did
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Does anyone feel that mush tends to slow down the longer it stays on? i wonder if it's just in my head or if there is some sort of memory leak over time.
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: almost certainly both.
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: i think thats standard for apps/programs in general
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Guessing your buffer is full from your log
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: that being said 11 days on this one :P
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: very hard to avoid memory leaks in any non-trivial program.
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: How do I clear the buffer log?
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: I just periodically restart mush to clear the log
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: in display menu, clear output buffer
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Under activity list....I'm seeing 1.9 million lines...
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: found a memory leak :p
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: its probably a trigger leak somewhere rather than the buffer log TBH
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: but yes restarting usually fixes all problems
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: How do i identify which trigger is causing the problem? 
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katsumoto Tech: Buffer output is just 9903 lines....doesnt' seem all that much
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: really hard to say without installing plugins one by one and running mushclient for a long time
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here and now
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: is adding 2d buttons possible currently through themed_miniwindows?
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: idk
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I mean...yes manually of course...
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it's just a hotspot and some doodling
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: right
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: the adding text part of thr mush function seemed like the complicated park. the rectangle and hotspot arent too bad
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'll add a function for 2d buttons
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: probably not tonight though
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yah no rush, ty
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: is there anyway to send an execute command for a plugin to happen *after* other send commands in a trigger?
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: or alias even
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: for example i want to pause spellups, run a few commands, then resume spellups, but it'll just pause then resume, then run the commands
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: or should i just script it in a while loop or something?
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: with a triggered variable on the last command i wanna run... seems excessive..
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: this scroll thing that makes my window half and all. how do i remove it? i am so used to the older things
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: disable plugin aard_splitscreen_scrollback.xml
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boi Zyanya Tech: maybe this will work, Evl: https://www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=14863&page=999
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: hmmm nice... i just found the wait stuff that actually uses threading...
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Gotta love popups on the medical records site that show this: function() {if ( list ) {// First, we save the current length; var start = list.length; (function add( args ) {jQuery.each( args, function( _, arg ) {var type = jQuery.type( arg );if ( type === "function" && ( !options.unique || !self.has( arg ) ) ) {list.push( arg );} else if ( arg && arg.length && type !== "string" ) {// Inspect recursively; add( arg );} });})( arguments );// Do we need to add the callbacks to the current firing batch?; if ( firing ) {firingLength = list.length; // With memory, if we're not firing then we should call right away;} else if ( memory ) {firingStart = start; fire( memory );} } return this;}
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: that reads like my own "make notes because you know you're going to get interrupted and forget why you did that" comments
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Anssett.
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SNEAKER Mushambo Tech: yes but what's the length limit so a visitor knows how to overrun buffer?
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Who knows.
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: how can i add a autocorrect thingie here on aard? i suck at english
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Eh, you can try using text expanders like espanso or PhraseExpress or others, but those require actual input from you prior.
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: MUSH does have a spellchecker, though.
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stuyvesant nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: i had it on here before when i was using windows 10 . i downgraded to 8.1 
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: where?
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: file, global preferences, general, spell checker enable checkbox
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: thank you 
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: thanks for the help
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Bear in mind that it's going to mark a lot of words wrong.
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: it's fine i just want to improve my english
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: ...hope it will improve my english
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: English is fine. It's a global MUD. Spelling correctly is far different than speaking English properly.
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley english speak good 4 u!
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Truth be told, I prefer your English over many others here. :P
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stuyvesant goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: is vpns not allowed here ? 
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: why not ask what you're trying to do, as opposed to ask in tech channel about rule questions?
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: I promise you one day you'll forget to use the VPN for your multi and get caught.
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: I've connected via my vpn without getting banned before but its a static ip vpn that clearly identifies it's my place of businesses' static access point. I wouldn't do it on a vpn service.
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: no man, i am seeding for you  movies and all
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: just wondering why one in many options available on my vpn is banned
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grasshacker Tech: You get an error message or just a blackhole?
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: i am using proton vpn it's pretty common,when i disconnect. i notice stuff
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you're using free proxies, there are cases when someone using the same proxy has been banned.
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Unfortunately, if that IP address is being used, then it'll be banned still.
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: that sucks 
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In those cases, you might considering switching to another location.
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: oh well, i didn't bot i am sure abouth that ...the gqs lost is embarrassing
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: i switched to another location but even when i use my previous location i can still use this char but i happened to mistype the name of my char and i realised that new players couldn't join
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, it could be that Lasher newbie-banned proxies, meaning that if you're connected from a VPN, you cannot create a new character, but existing characters can still play.
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: i just quick connect from proxies . i notice some things because my tuping is inacurate mostle
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuyvesant Tech: remind me to quit heavy machinery after translating my last message
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: anyone know of any decent resources for learning the basics of lua?
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Gaballon: Really, just googling Lua tutorials will get you started.
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i googled lua functions, and i was a little surprised
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i didnt see great reference material easy to find
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: https://www.tutorialspoint.com/lua/index.htm -- that's a good place to start.
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: http://lua-users.org -- that's where I started learning.
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: First Edition of Lua's own tutorial is available online free https://www.lua.org/pil/contents.html
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: thanks ill check it out
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: most lua tutorials are terrible
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: https://mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=13912&page=1
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: wow Fiendish, that has some gems in it
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycho! Dillon Tech: could anyone assist with this? 'Reason: Executing plugin Aardwolf_Group_Monitor sub ResizeMoveCallback'
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gurbuz Tech: im getting {/roomchars} at the top and bottom of every room i enter
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Dillon: need more of the error message
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Any easy way to update gypsy area in mapper db without re-mapping it?
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: Fiendish has a new update for mush available to fix that, I think
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sleazy Areia Tech: Small update in the Winds trader plugin available now. Minor fixes to reflect the change in max bid on market. 'Winds update' to update.
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: winds trader plugin?
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus stretches luxuriously. Kinda makes you want to, doesn't it?
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Actually was decently easy to edit the db itself to swap out caravan for wayfarer
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Only thing like a complete idiot I done the backup and wondered why nothing changed, rofl
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sleazy Areia Tech: For Mush users. Helps find available card trades for Winds epic.
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: People still trade? Rarely ever see that happen when I do runs:(
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: sometimes yeah
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yeah i trade with ppl using the site
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Is there anyway to make keypad numbers work as normal with numpad off? my five key broke and its a pain to write the word out, rofl...naturally doesnt work if I want to deposit any sum with a five in it or bet on any bids with a five in it:P
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: I mean if numluck is off, then the keypad does nothing at all....would sound like theres space for such a thing
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well besides act as arrow keys....would be nice if numlock off treated it as if it were on under normal typing circumstances
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Gladacus: You can have it send keys to the command line as needed. :p
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Yeah but I need something to do the number five, rofl
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: copy/paste? :D
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Wait...is there a way I can macro the five key to append the number five to command bar?
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i don't know if you can macro a key to type it into the command bar
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: you can use an alias to turn on/off keypad macros though
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can, yes. You'll have to use GetCommand and PasteCommand, but you can do it, I believe.
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: SetOption ("keypad_enable", 0) - disables keypad, 1 enables it. i think that is referring to processing the macros the keypad buttons fire. it's been a while (and a different mushclient install) since i've fooled with that. and the keyboard i'm on right now doesn't even have a numpad to test :P
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: pretty sure i just created a kpon/kpoff alias the last time i needed to do that
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Sounds like something good for a macro, if a macro can send to script
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It can.
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i know you would lose a keypad entry by you could just have it send '5'
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, yes, \\\SetOption("keypad_enable", 1|0) is the way to go for sure.
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: sending '5' would send it to the mud tho sel, not to the text input
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: SO all those slashes makes it process it as script?
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: even from a send command?
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah just occured to me as i typed it  :)
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Gladacus: If you do it from the command line, you would use the \\\. If you do it from an alias, you do not need the \\\, just make sure you send to script.
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: not sure why you just don't hit numlock if that toggles between the two...why create and alias to to the same thing?
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Numlock does not send number keys.
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If it is off, it acts as arrow keys.
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah i have on more then one occasion tred to type a number from kaypad only to realize i'm moving around instead of typing a number   :P
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So you can make a simple alias to send to script that does this: SetOption("keypad_enable", GetOption("keypad_enable") == 1 and 0 or 1) -- that SHOULD work.
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it seems like MUSH assigns a unique alias ID to each alias, is there a way to see that without using GetAliasList() and checking each item in the array?
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can assign your own id to the alias.
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: depends on if it's an alias in a plugin or one you created too. i wouldn't go fooling around with a plugin's alias id :P
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you label an alias, you can use the label name to call it (EnableAlias("label"), etc)
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, won't hurt to add a name to a plugin alias if it doesn't have one. :P
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: well no, i suppose not :p
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: oh ok, maybe the label field is the alias ID
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: like i have an alias that is "doh" but it's alias ID is *alias91
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: "label" in the ui is "name" in the xml. unsure where the id is coming from.
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: that may be internal mushclient processing, i dunno.
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: basically i was trying to figure out how hard it'd be to parse the text in the command line and match it to an alias. if it matches, send the alias, avoiding the need to hit enter
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: but it seems more complicated than i thought, because the alias list array is not very helpful
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: yeah i would go with that being complicated. that's a good assessment
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: not impossible, but maybe beyond my capabilities :)
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: that bit you're probably better off with a "bother fiendish" or "post on the mushclient forums" 
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: basically you need catch "onkeypress" and compare
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it's the parsing from one array to another that i'd have trouble with. taking the array returned by GetAliasList() and creating a new one that's useful
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean like: al = GetAliasList(); if al then;   for k, v in ipairs (al) do ;   tabaliasname = GetAliasInfo(v, 1) ;if (tabaliasname == alias) then ;  Execute(alias)
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I placed ; instead of CRLF
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Gaballon: So, if you change it to 'regex' in the alias, and don't anchor the alias, whether you type it at the beginning, middle, or end of a command, it'll fire the alias.
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: unless you want to store alias list using some tables, so you can do faster lookups (like if you've types aaax then there is no point to check aliases that start with b)
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: that'd have to run everytime a key is entered in command line tho, wouldnt that be slow
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i was thinking take the array from GetAliasList() once at plugin start and store that
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: onplugininstall: GetAliasList and store it in some variable, I think that iterating through whole table should be fast enough even if you check whole table on keypress
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: my understanding of computer science is elementary at best
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean basically you are really slow typer comparing to CPU processing power :P
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: For example, I have an alias for my bags. 'bag1' expands out to my bag id for my first bag. The alias is simply: (.*)?bag(\d)(.*)? and it sends: Send("%1" .. bags["%1"] .. "%2")
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: to speed it a bit up - you can split that GetAliasList table in 24 tables just for alphabet
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yuck.
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it'd only work for aliases that don't rely on wildcards
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: which isnt that many honestly
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: otherwise how do u decide when to send the alias?
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Careful scripting will help you decide.
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: so it'd be getting the alias list, adding ones that dont use wildcards to a new array, checking command line against that new array
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It helps if we know more what you are trying to do, though.
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: so im working on a plugin to make playing with a touch screen better
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: so if i have an alias that is "doh", i can do d o h and not have to hit enter
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Is that for buttons, or...
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Are you meant to type doh and not hit enter?
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: type the letters and skip the hitting enter part
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I'm not sure whether there is some "onkeypress" function in mush, but you could probably use AcceleratorTo (for a-z + enter)
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, just for your information, you can do this, and store the information into a table as needed: for _,v in ipairs(GetAliasList()) do if not string.find(GetAliasInfo(v, 1), "*") then print(v) end end
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Change the 'print' to do whatever. It's not 100% foolproof (as it will reject anything that has * and is NOT a wildcard, and will not capture regexes).
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But it'll get you started in the right direction.
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: the whole thing may be more trouble than it's worth, that's what im trying to figure out
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: like if i have an alias that's "en" to enter, what if i want to type enter crack
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it'd cut me off at en
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: so its just something i want to experiment with, thanks for the help
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yup have to make sure none of your aliases would overlap words you may wish to type
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I truly hate this logo. It messes with my eyes, makes me think it's blurry or I have double vision. https://i.vgy.me/JaKAsa.png
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedi Kandorr Tech: like 3d for the colorblind
T3/r7/2022-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I wouldn't know. But yeah, it's horrible.
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordPain Tech: sometimes i type stuff and it doesn't go through when i am trying to log on
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: i guess its mushclient but its more what to write.. for the alias
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: LordPain: login has multiple steps. What are you trying to send and when?
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Swaizo: what?
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: my off hand weapon changes with level, how can i pull a portal out, wear it, and re-dual wield my weapon without making a seperate alias for each dual weapon and portal
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: right now i just manually type dual wield "weapon"
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: which isnt very time consuming but if i can refine it i would love to
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that is easy, make an alias that gets the portal, wears it, enters, removes it, puts it away, then wear all
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: did mushclient evolve from mushrooms?
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordPain Tech: i would type in my name ,that works but when i get to the password part i would send the password but everything on the screen stands still then i would have to close the mushclient window and start over again
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Evl: yes
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: i knew it
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: i see wear all working in general but if there are items in inventory such as other weapons from drops, couldnt that become problemsome
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordPain Tech: i think it's a certain plugin i have installed .
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the last thing you were wearing was what?
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the off hand weapon.. so aard being clever wears the last item to have gone back in your inventory
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: LordPain: definitely something is interfering. did you load any plugins other than the ones that come with the aardwolf mushclient package?
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: oh really? well that would work then
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Evl eats mushclient hoping to get high..
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Shindo: wait, is that true?
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it's what i did for my blowtorch portal aliases
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: have you had a potential off hand weapon in your inventory when using the alias?
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: your inventory is a stack, so aardwolf treats it like one
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordPain Tech: ah it's snd.
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: so first come first served, draw from top of stack and done?
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordPain Tech: it's snd causing this
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IAC DO Fiendish comforts LordPain.
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'm sad for you and glad for me.
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: exactly and since all you did was wear an item, which removed the weapon, then removed and stashed said item all it can do is re-equip what was there
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordPain Tech: it fails to load up and freezes everything
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: ok well cool, i will give that a try
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it even works once you have the portal wish...
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: cool cool, ty Shindo
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: i use a variable set system where i do something like #set main <X> and #set dual <X> when it changes so my envenom alias works... i don't know how to envenom the top thing in my inv
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that is a whole different story...
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i'm guessing you could do fun things with invmon
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: yeah maybe
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: Fiendish how do i pass a function and a variable through the button click?
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: give an example of what you mean?
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: in ur example u pass the function name
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: correct
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: but what if i want function(variable)
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: like what kind of variable?
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: func(func(func(var)))
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: jk
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i tried to have a function process_click(command, sendto)
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: because some buttons i want to sendto execute, others to world
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: surely when you create the button on the fly you can define what you want in it
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: can't you give them different functions?
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i can put thr function code in each button creation i guess, just looked a little messy
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: according to my notes, the function is passed two arguments
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: flags, hotspot_id
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i sae that, but didnt figure out what flags was
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: flags are like...one sec
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: https://www.mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?function=WindowAddHotspot
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: look for "The callback functions should look like this:"
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: oh ok i srr
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: flags are like if you shift-click or right-click or stuff like that
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but you probably just want the ID
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: then you can decide what to do 
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: anyway your options are to either just make a different function for each button or inside the one button function choose what to do based on the hotspot_id (the button ID)
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: ok i went with the latter i think
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i assume my code is really badly organized, but if anyone has any tips im all ears: https://pastebin.com/WS6WPaGV
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: tips for what?
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i dont have a good understanding of how to effectively use save state
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: and i kept getting undefined variable errors, so i have window creation code porbably more than i need
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: saving state in mushclient is a little weird
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but in theory if you've used SetVariable and then you or something saves, your sets will get stored in the state file
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: There's a plugin callback OnPluginSaveState which lets you do your SetVariables all in one place if you want that runs right before saving
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: then all you have to do is call SaveState to fire off a save (or hit ctrl+s or exit mushclient and tell it to save)
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it does save the variables in the state file now
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i tink i brute forced it by putting varaibles everywhere
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you load variables on startup and save again on shutdown. the rest of the time you just work with them. i'm trying to remember which plugin i finally got that to sink in to my mind
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: is there any point in putting code not in a function like i have at the end? or can i just have all that in OnPluginEnable()
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: not really, no
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: well...technically yes...but it's very obscure
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you can easily put that into OnPluginInstall or OnPluginEnable
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: ok, i think i can clean it up then
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I don't know why I sometimes put that kind of stuff in a function and sometimes don't
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: neutrinos, phases of the moon, time of day...
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it doesn't matter and I have a very good memory for my own plugins so I mostly don't really care all that much
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i was looking at your tick timer plugin, and u basically put all that crap in an init() that gets called onpluginenable
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: that definitely sounds like something I'd do
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: tech i was looking at that for organization ideas bc its relatively simple and uses a window
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the advantage of an init function is you can call it outside of pluginenable
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the helpfile plugin is my best window plugin if you ignore all the parsing stuff in it
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so you don't have to disable then re-enable to get it to run
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: true. i think i can improve it quite a bit now, thanks
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: cool
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: ... How am I just finding out now that you can set the default 'send to' for aliases, triggers, and commands??
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: default?
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, instead of default 'Send to World' on the gui, you can change it to Send to Script, or whatever.
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: its pretty handy
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I often write aliases/triggers in 'script' anyway, so now that's one less thing I have to worry about.
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Decided to browse GetOptionList to see what hidden options are there. So many on there I've never realized.
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycho! Dillon Tech: help
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycho! Dillon Tech: oops
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: hlep incoming
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: anyone know why my mapper isn't updating the big map to show the area rooms? (stuck on continent) and my goto commands seem to cause to portal me to the entrance each time even if theroom is just 1w or something...
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: new install?
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: there is a cmd to update big maps but i forget, if you did that already then just reinstall the plugin that fixes most problems
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drackula Tech: hi guy how can we put for example f01 for alias with the mush client 
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drackula Tech: thaks
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FrshPrncOf Kelaire Tech: Drackula -  Hit alt+enter then under "Input" on the left choose "Macros".  You can set the "F" keys and other keys to do what you want.
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: is there something in splitscreen scrollback that toggles MUSH's Un-pause on send option?
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you mean a setting that you can change?
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: sometimes when i disable the plugin, it unchecks that option
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: so i have to go re-check it
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: let me check
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so, yes
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but it's supposed to set it back when you disable it
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: maybe I didn't cover all the corners
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i have a feeling it doesnt set it back if im not scrolled to the bottom of the output when i disable the plugin
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ...
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: that shouldn't be the case, but...let's look...
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you might be right. It looks like I accidentally reused a variable.
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: neat catch
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yay, glad its an easy fix
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it's also possible that the problem is I don't force a save when trying to set the option back at the end, so I'll add that too
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: sometimes I wonder if the reason I leave so many bugs for myself to find later is because I really really enjoy finding and fixing bugs
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: sounds a little sadistic
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: some people enjoy jigsaw puzzles, personally I find those boring
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: bug fixing is *kinda* fun
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: personally I like knowing that no matter how tight the corner is that I've backed myself into, I'm always able to dislocate my shoulder and sneak out through the ventilation duct
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: well i figured out what has been crashing my client, but i have no idea whats to blame
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what was it
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i had triggers that modified the font style to underlined, to draw focus to important events. it was crashing my client for some reason
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: yikes
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: ive used it before in other muds years ago, so not sure why it doesnt like it now
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I think it really might be just that I wasn't forcing the state to save
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: which I will add
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I also found a funny bug in the plugin that would cause a nil arithmetic error if I add a print statement that fires while reloading the plugin.
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: well..."bug"
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: It's hard to call it really a bug if it only happens when I add code that isn't supposed to be there
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: printing to output causes the output to scroll, which causes a bunch of window geometry arithmetic to happen. If the window isn't there anymore because you've just deleted it because you're in the middle of OnPluginDisable then the geometry arithmetic fails
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Gaballon: there may be edge cases here that I don't have the power to fix :(
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: like if you scroll up, manually save, then exit MUSHclient without letting it save I think it will kill the setting
T3/r7/2022-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: and I think there's nothing I can do about it
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: running into a weird issue. think i understand what's happening but want to confirm. I have a small helper function, split off into a separate lua file, that allows me to set a combat spell. i have two separate scripts that make use of that helper function - one that allows me to set or use that combat spell, and another that does similar things but is used specifically for titan (so if i do "titan cold" it switches my weapon to a cold weapon and my spell to purgatory). What i'm finding though is that setting appears to work fine with the titan script - but when i actually cast, it's not updating
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: I set/get the variable and save state in a standalone lua script, but is it effectively creating two versions of the same variable? one for my standard cast script, and one for my titan script? if so, do they just need to be combined into a single script?
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: are these in plugins?
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: each plugin has its own variables
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: they aren't shared
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: ah... yeah, that makes sense. i thought since i was manipulating these within algaru_common.lua (not a plugin, just a lua script) that it would share state but that seems to not be the case. thanks for confirming!
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: importing that file into the plugin puts its code into the plugin's sandbox
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so any mushclient actions you do like set/getvariable happen within the context of the plugin
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: makes sense. out of curiosity, is there any way to get them to share? i could combine into a single plugin, which is probably the easiest. alternately i could leave them separate and have a separate cast alias for titan, which seems ugly. curious if there's another way 
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: technically yes, but it's all weird workarounds
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: well, I can't find the threads I think I want, but anyway...
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: ah... i found a "CallPlugin" function
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: you can write things to a file or you can have the plugins talk to each other
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i saw some weird behavior with a consider plugin where it was changing my target in S&D... i think i see how that's happening
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: alright - will play around with this later. thanks for the help!
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: oh man
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: dinv requires prompts to be on?
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: :(
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: not sure but it turns them off while it's doing things
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I just installed it and it forced my prompt on
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: I've been updating it some on my own copy. I might look into why it does that when I get finished with item reporting
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what kind of stuff are you adding?
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: and does durel know? :)
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: I haven't given it to anyone just my own copy
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: sharing is caring!
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: with mush will doafterspecial execute a function inside the script? or would i just be better writting an alias and sending it to execute?
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: is it normal that the dinv folder in plugin is taking 1g of space?
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Contigo Tech: mine is 34mb
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: mine is 970 mb......
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: mines like 2mb probably depends heavily on size of your inventory
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: i don't think i have like 940 mb more stuff compared to you guys...T_T
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i did not even know there was a dinv folder lol
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: maybe you're a hoarder. We don't know lol
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: in the state folder under plugins
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: i have a lot of conflicted items.... so i was wondering if i can delete the backups to save space
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: ahhh yeah, mine is only 10MB
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: i play aard via dropbox so i guess it creates a lot of errors?:S
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: sounds like you may have gotten into a loop somewhere failing to fully id something
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Do you have a ton of different sets created?
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: well, guess i will try to randomly delete stuff when i am home
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: i dun think so, more like there are a lot of conflicted files in my folders cos i switch between 2 comps i think
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: mines in my one drive desktop
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: comes with me wherever I am
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: I'm guessing inv-set.state is your largest file in either your current or backup folders
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: Since it contains all the possible sets and items/item ids you can use for any sets you've created.  Depending on how much stuff you're hoarding it's a lot of data
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: hmm thanks! will check it out and see if i can reduce it lol
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: also, is one drive better than dropbox?
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: I've had both corrupt state files due to poor syncing
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heracles Tech: neither is ideal I guess, but I'd take one drive over dropbox
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: thanks! now, to tidy up my folder lol
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: man dinv is so complicated. I need a dinv for dummies version.
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: what you trying to do with it?
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: wear the good stuff and not the bad stuff ^o^
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: like not in a complicated way, just in a naive item-by-item way, load the best thing I have that I can wear at the moment
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the documentation on the dinv github wiki is organized all backwards
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it's like "here's a thing you can do, but way, you actually won't want to do that and will want to do this instead...but wait...actually you want to do this instead...but wait..."
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: so I'm many paragraphs in and still haven't gotten to the part that it thinks I actually want to do
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I added an issue to Durel's github repo about it https://github.com/Aardurel/aard-plugins/issues/6
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yea i started off creating snapshots every 10 levels but it got too cumbersome
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: now i just have it wear whatever it thinks is best
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Gaballon: quickstart me, what do I type for that? lol
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: did u setup a custom stat priority?
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: no, I haven't learned how yet
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: are the defaults bad?
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'm a thief
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yeah probably bad. the defaults use the same scoring that the game uses
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I got half way through https://github.com/Aardurel/aard-plugins/wiki and had to stop for water and a breather
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: because it kept telling me things I didn't want to know about 
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: what i did was use durel's custom priority and modify it
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i started with psi-melee and adjusted the numbers
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'm ok with modifying it, but I think that using the defaults first is the way to go
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what command do I use to just be like "hey I'm a thief, give me the thief stuff"
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: ok, then type dinv set display thief
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: thats what it thinks is best
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: to wear it, dinv set wear thief
T3/r7/2022-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: neat!
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yea its really easy. the stat priorities u can sink a lot of time into if u want to min-max
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: can I just alias dinv set wear thief and hit that every few levels?
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yea
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: man this is so much simpler than the documentation would lead one to believe
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: youll need to dinv refresh when u get new gear
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: throw a 'dinv refresh' in there if you die or do other fun things to do your gear inventory
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: and a dinv refresh everytime you keep or envenom an item
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: which is annoying at first, but okay really
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I love what durel has made but he needs some guidance on how to write documentation for us poor humans
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I don't know how you robots figured this out
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: trial
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yea i delayed using the plugin for a long time because it looked sooo complicated
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: and a lot of error
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: to be fair, theres a bunch of features i dont use
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it seems like there's a deep nest of features that you _could_ use but probably won't want to unless you're very very fussy
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: i mostly like the weapon swap stuff
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yah i havent tried that one yet
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: what is the weapon swap stuff?
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: hold on dying
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: RIP
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: if a mob is immune to ur weapon, theres a command to auto equip another aeapon with a diff damage type
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: oh. ehhh...how many mobs are ever immune to stuff though
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it's so niche
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I can think of like one
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: to use the weapon damage typ you need for a certain mob you can do "dinv weapon myThief %<damType>"
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: and I don't even remember where it is
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i like the idea of the feature, but never have used it
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: as long as you've run a full identify on it, it'll swap out your weapons with the best one of that damtype
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: i'm constantly swapping weaps
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I think I'm ok just going a fight with only spells or poisons or something
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it seems like not that big a deal
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: ya if a mob is immune i just cast spells until its dead
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: this is of course why I'm not very good at leveling
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ok now how do I customize the priorities?
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: yeah not so easy as thief
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: id clone one, like dinv priority clone psi-melee
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: dinv priority edit <>
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: is there a list of them?
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: dinv priority list, dinv priprity display
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: why are there so many for psi? hahaha
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khrysis Tech: u can make your own custom ones
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i guess durel liked psi
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: i think maybe i run into more immune mobs because i mostly campaign and questor is a real pain in the butt
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: oh also dinv covet is cool
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: that doesn't appear to be a command
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: dinv covet <priority name> <auction #>
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: oh also dinv covet thief <auctionid>
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: for example
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: or dinv covet thief <auctionid> 10 to make it quicker
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I typed dinv covet thief 24136 and now I have no idea what it's doing
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but it's doing it very slowly
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: hehe stuff :D
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: it'll tell you if that is better than what you got at that level
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: it's not even a real auction id!
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: lol
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: oh god
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: it's probably a market auction id
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I just got spammed with a huge wall of DINV Covet at level 54 failed due to missing thief analysis for that level
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: that works too
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: oh right yeah.. gotta do the analyze... that takes a while
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IAC DO Fiendish |
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: :|
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: takes forever but only have to do it once unless everything falls apart
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i still dont really understand the point of the analysis if u can just use set wear to equip urself whenever u want
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: yeah it's strnage
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: apparently the analysis is required for the covet command. what does the covet command do again?
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: tells you if the thing on auction is better than what you have
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: and what levels you'd use it for
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: does it?
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I don't know how to interpret this output
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: its supposed to tell you at what levels it'd actually use the item, if at all
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: yes, i don't fully understand the output either, but a big long list of levels usually means it's good
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: tech hah
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: lots of green is also good
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i really just use the set display/wear and the search functions
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: u can run some nice searches
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: search functions?
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: instead of covet, if im looking at a level 151 ring for example
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: dinv search wearable finger minlevel 131 maxlevel 161
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: oh right yeah
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: stuff like that
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: why would I care about searching if I can just wear the right thing?
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: to see if i want to buy something
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: weapons for example
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: yeah i use covet instead for that
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: also usage is a great thing for cleaning up the inventory
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: relies on analze tho too
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: analyze*
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: dinv usage thief all 
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: if u keep gear for multiple priorities its less useful. i wish i could see what gear isnt used for all the priorities
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: yeah dinv usage all is a thing
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: oh nice, thanks
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: never used it, but it might be good
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: thats a lot of output for sure
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: hehe yupp
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: oh god
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I forgot the command already
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: just alias everything or check dinv help
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: "just check dinv help"
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: that's a joke?
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'll die of old age before I make it through dinv help
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: i said just alias, not just check help :)
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: i alias all dinv things on learning what they do
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the only problem with dinv help is it shames all my help commands for my plugins
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: the only problem with dinv help is that I'll never read any of it
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sheriff Shindo rolls on the floor laughing at IAC DO Fiendish's antics!
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that's how most people feel about your mapper commands
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I added a search feature!
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: treat it like a novel, one command a day
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but once you do read it all and start using it you realise the payback is worth it
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I also didn't make mapper help in novel form
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: command - what it do
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: reading dinv help is like trying to find a recipe on those recipe websites
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: gotta learn about Durel's fond memories of walking in the woods with his grandma first
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: if you read to the end of his github readme, durel has some feature requests for the mapper XD
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: where?
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I don't see anything about the mapper on his readme
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: " I can't tell you how many times I wished that the mapper would have some way to tell me when a mapping command was done."
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you stop moving...
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: where do you see that on his readme?
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: well unless you have a wait or two in there
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: last or second last paragraph
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: i didn't read anything else tbh
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: on https://github.com/Aardurel/aard-plugins/wiki
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: just find it funny is all
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: Durel should know that putting requests on his own github wiki won't get them done
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: he has to send them to me
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: he was waiting for you to finish reading the dinv help 
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: joke's on him, I'm never going to finish
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: ;)
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: anyway, the mapper can't know when you're done moving because it intentionally does not move room-by-room
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: philosophical reasons made me have it send all the commands up front except for waits
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I _could_ have it tell you that you're in the desired room
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: but...uhh...isn't it clear by virtue of being there?
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that would make the botters happy, let them modify the code themselves
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: ok going to bed early tonight
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: bye now
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sheriff Shindo waves goodbye to IAC DO Fiendish.
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: thanks for helping me with dinv
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: ciao
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'll probably be back tomorrow like "now wtf was that command again"
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and the day after and the day after and
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evl Tech: ALIAS NOW :P
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: there a way to have dinv list out a set of weapons? i'd like to see my weapon sets from lvl 80-200?
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: dinv usage <priority> type weapon
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: or were you hoping for prettier
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: that works thanks, i come with the right combo
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: couldn't
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: there's a couple other ways you can get approx the same result
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: type weapon, wearable wield
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: unsure how shields fit into it, or which would get you that if you're looking for that too
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: anyone have a script/plugin that sorts the aarchaeology bag by piece #?
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: pamphlets? or aarch pieces?
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: I "
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: I "sort" my pamphlets by putting them in descending order
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: both i guess
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: i've been told a plugin exists for aarch helping but i sure don't know where to find it right now.
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anssett is helpful
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Selitos smirks.
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: put all.pamphlet50 2221832724;put all.pamphlet49 221...;etc 
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: it wouldn't be *hard* to script that. decrementing for loop from 50. kinda brute forcey though haha
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: yea, (50..1)|"put all.pamphlet$_ bag"
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah be easy to loop that
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: but i can't beleive someone hasn't written a plugin to help with aarcheology
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: https://github.com/endavis/bastproxy/blob/master/plugins/aardwolf/aarch.py first google result
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: anyonther one here https://github.com/l33t-xyz/l33t-aardwolf-plugins/
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: look at you with your fancy "i can google, guys" :P
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: lmgtfy.com
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Though I would like: lmddgtfy.com :p
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: the number of times i want to use that in a day, and am politically unable to, are too high.
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Screw your politics.
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anssett Tech: they're not my type 
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: just a dopey little 5x5 square with generic names on weak aggro mobs 
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: mis
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: I put in alias in mushclient that sends mapper cexit open south;south but it just says it is an unknown command
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: it works when I type the same thing
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: what do i need to change?
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: it will need two ";"between the commands
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guy of Gisbourne Tech: it does, i just forgot it when I typed it here
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajirobe Roninleader Tech: any idea why dinv loads the call of heros portal but doesnt reload my amulet? I do not have this problem with any other portal.
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rakiso Tech: i would guess you have added this portal in different way. try to remove/add again
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nytaris Tech: Hello, so got an interesting situation here... On a Chromebook and using a screen reader, besides Duck Client, what might be my options?
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: CTRL+ALT+Z Chrome Vox screen reader
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nytaris Tech: already on and using Duck Client to connect... just wondering if Mushclient via WINE is a feasible option
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: Long as it supports running 32bit applications under 64bit it should work in wine
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: not sure on the 32/64bit compatibility on a specific chrome book
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: mush runs great under WINE on linux fwiw, would sure be sweet if could get mush running like that
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nytaris Tech: I could technically run Windows in a VM nested inside Debian nested inside ChromeOS, but the lag is horrendeous, even with the high-end specs this thing has
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: hah yeah, what could go wrong :D
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: but under all thosem wouldnt you be able to run it under ubuntu too?
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: for all I know, you could run it bascily under all systems and under them currently
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nytaris Tech: technically yes, but setting up Crstini to run Ubuntu instead of Debian is somewhat annoying
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nytaris Tech: the linux container I meant
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: so wouldnt saying you can run this under this would be wrong as it only says that you can do it in one place? wouldnt you just want to say we can do this everywhere?
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nytaris Tech: it's a bit awkard to explain... ChromeOS is the base, then you've got containers, the default one being Android, and you can add a flavor of Linux as well and all 3 run at the same time
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: if you can install a debian vm on it you should just be able to install wine, The mono library, and mush. If you can install a VM on it means the hardware supports virtualization
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nytaris Tech: nvm, I'm making this complicated. Duck Client is basic, but it isn't straight up telnet
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snake God Szzilleriel Tech: if you're looking for a decent client that comes from the play store for chromeos check out BlowTorch
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nytaris Tech: I've tried it, and could never get it to work with a screen reader
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: -=h
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Fiendish Tech: I'm told that Wine works on ChromeOS as long as it's an x86 CPU and not ARM.