T3/r7/2022-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'anyone buy a front load washer recently and have good luck? seeing a ton of poor reviews'
T3/r7/2022-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pure WhiteTiger: 'i like the top loaders personally. Don't need something go wrong mid cycle then getting a floor full of suds'
T3/r7/2022-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'front loaders just have more room and supposedly wash better..'
T3/r7/2022-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pure WhiteTiger: 'oh i have no idea about any of that'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'police in Akron, Ohio, shot an unarmed black guy 60 times'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Quiescence: 'i bet there is more to the story'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Quiescence: 'got any bodycam footage?'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'https://uk.yahoo.com/news/ohio-police-shot-unarmed-jayland-181739930.html '
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'he was in a car chase, shot out of the driver side window at the police. got out on foot and was shot down'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'but didn't have a gun on him while running.. hence the "unarmed man"'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Quiescence: 'doesnt sound unarmed lol'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'they cant know that though'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Quiescence: 'oh gotcha'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Firestone: 'the minute you flee to elude you automatically make it felony escape, which changes the rules of engagement extensively'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'let alone flee while shooting out the window at police..'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Quiescence: 'you instantly put everyone around you at risk, so you must be stopped'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Firestone: 'was it a high speed chase? did he make threatening movements?'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Firestone: 'what isn't being included in the divisive narrative?'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'I dunno, is shooting out of your window threatening?'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: '...'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Quiescence: 'only if your black, white people are allowed to do it all the time /s'
T3/r7/2022-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'So, for anyone listening: Children of the Corn based on people dying in a field of Corn, Field of Dreams based on destroying a field of corn so spirits will show up to play. Connection? Possibly the same Field?'
T3/r7/2022-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'Boris Johnson is gonna resign'
T3/r7/2022-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'not too soon'
T3/r7/2022-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'Can You imagine arguing with a dragon on wether or not You need to spend money on things? :p'
T3/r7/2022-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'And at that point, it becomes arguing and not debating.'
T3/r7/2022-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'I'm really, incredibly bored. Like more bored than that time Baba turned me *into* a board...'
T3/r7/2022-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'You must be an alt. Nobody with 49 hours has any right to be bored here.'
T3/r7/2022-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'Waiting.'
T3/r7/2022-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'I got 2 quest items, now I'mma get a proper DB and level if it fits.'
T3/r7/2022-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Waiting for what?'
T3/r7/2022-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'tp upon cp complete *or* daily bonus trains from DB. Had to get HoTS and wings first though'
T3/r7/2022-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'I've gotten 3 tp from db and 2 from questing so far'
T3/r7/2022-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'Did You know that the Yatjua (predators) are actually indeed humans or other races that once had a face-hugger attached to their face but it was surgically removed, hence why they have no lips to smile with?'
T3/r7/2022-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'The four things sticking out of their cheeks are actually the legs that the face-huggers dig into the flesh to prevent the individual from removing it by grabbing and pulling '
T3/r7/2022-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'pretty sure they are just penis monsters'
T3/r7/2022-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'made by a gross artist. but the retconned story sounds nice too'
T3/r7/2022-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'source?'
T3/r7/2022-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'The Yatjua don't see species, They hate the Xenomorph's because They once were something that had lips and resembled their previous species.'
T3/r7/2022-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'but after being injected with enough of their venom kt warps the previous body into something different. It's also why there's such a size difference between the afflicted.'
T3/r7/2022-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'it warps their body*'
T3/r7/2022-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'The first of the Yatjua were the ones with the most messed up faces because the surgery was done with conventional tools like a regular scalpel.'
T3/r7/2022-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'is this sci-fi channel?'
T3/r7/2022-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'Later the people's faces often have burns around where their lips are specifically because someone invented the closest thing to a light-saber to date, also where Mileena in Mortal Kombat got her really messed up face after the Xenomorph's were in Mortal Kombat.'
T3/r7/2022-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'male British MP was wearing a black leather miniskirt and high heels (in a car crash)'
T3/r7/2022-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'https://uk.news.yahoo.com/tory-mp-wearing-leather-mini-102820362.html '
T3/r7/2022-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'i can imagine that guy in a miniskirt'
T3/r7/2022-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Classic Vost chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2022-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 81.tallpal Logrom: 'I'll admit I found the article amusing at first, but they definitely could have mentioned earlier on in the article that the MP already came out as transgender.  That kind of changes things :P'
T3/r7/2022-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'does it really? cant wear a mini skirt unless youre transgender?'
T3/r7/2022-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 81.tallpal Logrom: 'It's not as amusing to contemplate conservative MPs wearing miniskirts if we know they already came out as trans :P'
T3/r7/2022-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: '2 in 1 hair care or separate shampoo and conditioner?'
T3/r7/2022-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'just water'
T3/r7/2022-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: '5-in-1 + clean toilet/bathroom/carpet/car...'
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'https://uk.news.yahoo.com/met-office-issues-first-ever-095736439.html '
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'UK has issued the first ever "extreme heat warning" '
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'temperature approaching 40 C'
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'erks!!!'
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'maybe now is the time to buy that fan'
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'd seen that it was supposed to be hot, but 40c is crazy'
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): 81.tallpal Logrom pictures Cilmarill's (toe) hair streaming in said fan
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): 81.tallpal Logrom pours Cilmarill a drink.  So cool and refreshing! ;)
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'so far I've been ok inside with the windows open'
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but 40 degrees is actually dangerous'
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 81.tallpal Logrom: 'How's the humidity where you are Cil?'
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'dunno - seems fine tbh? I mean the weather's nice, you can bask in the sun, and cool off in the sahde'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'policeman in Rochester, New York, handcuffed an EMT for bumping ambulance door into police car door at a hospital'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'https://www.whec.com/rochester-new-york-news/exclusive-rpd-investigator-on-desk-duty-following-dispute-with-emt-in-ambulance-bay/6526199/?cat=565 '
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'are you kidding...?'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'ffs'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'there is video footage in the link'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'it looks like a white policeman and a black EMT...'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'or maybe hispanic EMT'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'gah I hate it when people think the law is more important than common sense and doing the right thing'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'You cannot judge me, I am Justice itself!'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'thats sad'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'there is a problem with police culture in the USA'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'filled with macho guys who love guns'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I mean that is inevitable'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: '"hey, I've got a gun AND a badge" swagger'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and I've never seen a film with a policeman protagonist who solves things with diplomacy, understnading, and administration '
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'there is a problem with culture in the USA*'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I don't think it's just the US. And I do think you have to be capable of being tough if you're a member of the police force, in any country. so it's just a paradox - it'd be nice to have people who can be tough when they need to be, and understanding when not, but it's just not realistic to expect it to be common'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'this sort of abuse of power doesn't happen in the UK'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'maybe because police aren't given guns, so British police service doesn't attract trigger-happy gun nutes'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'nuts *'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well the British police has classically always been a civilian police force. The old fashioned imagine I have is of police being asked for help, even about little things like directions and things'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and them always wanting to help'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I suppose my impression of US police is that they're more enforcement oriented'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but there's arseholes in every profession, in any country'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'that's one way of putting it'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I worked in a chocolate factory over summer once, and my boss was an absolute areshole. I imagine if she had handcuffs she would have loved using them. So I think you're right about the issueing of weapons'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'whats better? 1800 hr and 1900 dr...or 1700 hr and 2k dr'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Can't De Cide: 'i would go with the higher dr personaly.'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'isn't hr capped at 1.2K?'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'no'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i just invented a new perpetum mobile machine'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'hm. you put a tube in the water'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and like that, you lost me.  tube doesnt go there.'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'goes like 10m under'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'so. you drop a balloon into the tube.'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'and it gets released into the water. and it goes up.'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'profit'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'pretty sure thats how three mile island went down.'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'ok. but where is the flaw in this design?'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'so many more fun things to do with a tube and a balloon.  it is, therefore, politically infeasible.'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'balloons!'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the balloon drops because gravity. the balloon gets released and goes up because of pressure. where is the flaw'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'because of bouancy'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'it takes more energy to open/close the water-exclusion flap at the bottom of the tube than the balloon generates on its way up.'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'unless you are in good with maxwell's daemon, thats where you get stuck.'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'hm'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what if the balloon would be rigid'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'don't really see how you're profiting in energy'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'wouldn change shape'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'that would make it more like a cannon, so now you are just hunting dolphins.'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'when 2 very elementary particles collide head to head. and just stop. what happens to that energy?\'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well as I understnad it, it depends on how elementary'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'very'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'most basic. perfect'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I think we can't accelerate the most fundamental particles, since they don't exist long enough'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i love physics so much but have no brains for it.'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'me too - kind of sure it was a quote of Einstein, "if you think you understand quantum physics, you don't" or someone or other.. :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'hmm forgot i turned this channel on...'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'all way beyond me, it's like "shut up and calculate"'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'they dont.'
T3/r7/2022-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'British ppl can only enjoy nice, summer weather when they'd pay for it with cash (in foreign countries). True/False? :D '
T3/r7/2022-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fhantom: 'true'
T3/r7/2022-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fhantom: '*looks the other way*'
T3/r7/2022-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fhantom: 'doesn't it rain 9 months out of the year out there over the pond?'
T3/r7/2022-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'for last 3 days I can only hear complains that is too hot, while the same ppl few weeks ago were telling me how nice was in Dubai/Portugal/Tenerife etc. :P'
T3/r7/2022-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fhantom: 'that's cause they used to rain'
T3/r7/2022-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'not nie 9, mroe like 8'
T3/r7/2022-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fhantom: 'the heat wave lasted like 2 years here on the west coast of america'
T3/r7/2022-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fhantom: 'it's heading east'
T3/r7/2022-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fhantom: 'had like 80 degree mornings 110 degree afternoon to evening'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Anyone else have the sense that movies (as narrative form) are on their way out? Seems like episodic TV is more aligned to folks' schedules and attention levels'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'no'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Really? I used to do a movie a day, now I do maybe once per week'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'TV series just easier on the noggin at the end of the day, once you settle on something, dont have to choose what to watch next'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'you're running out of good new movies'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'good tv shows are better than movies, its true'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'That is true..I've seen at least 30 mins of about 7K movies?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Ehh I think a great movie is still better in my mind, but I have problems sitting through in one sitting'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'its about the amount of time they have to develop narrative and characters'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'id argue movies have gotten a lot longer nowadays and more people are ok with it'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'look at dune, the marvel movies, etc'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'yeah these runtimes...io remember when a 2.5+ hour movie meant Oscar quality (i.e., "Deer Hunter" or Godfather)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'its just historically you cant charge 20 bucks to go watch a tv series'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'I'm using yall as a focus group for work project btw :) SO ... what about awards shows? Do things like Oscars, Emmys, etc. carry any weight still ?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'its all ego stroking and bragging rights'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'so economics made movies better, but thats changing with streaming'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Well I could argue economics made movies better :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'i mean relative to tv shows, obvs economics tends toward cheaply made shit too'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Does being an "Oscar" nominated/winning film carry any weight in watching criteria? my sense is, definitely less than 15 years ago?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'for my lifestyle films are often better - tv series tend to need more attention, and these days I'm doing something else while 'watching''
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'interesting CIlm..wouldve thought tv more conducive to multi-tasking'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'i watch shows when i dont want to do anything else, including think'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'assuming 'equal quality' personally much prefer a well-done movie...'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well depends on what it is. Like the sunny in philadelphia, or trailer park boys, can float by ok, but many tv series get really involved because of the long format. Films are always, necessarily, a bit lighter, because they need to get in and out more quickly'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'heh yeah I usually wind down end of night with something low involvement like TPB or 30 rock'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'course we're also of the older generation lol...i just highly doubt yutes care if something wins Best Picture'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'well maybe Best Picture still carries weight..'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'i mean poorly made shit still annoys me enough to switch, even if i dont want to think, ill just be thinking about how shit it is'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'unless its a nick cage movie, then thats the point of the film'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i feel there's more uncertainty in payoff (of time investment) with movies...assuming watchsomething for least 20 minutes before giving up, thats like 15-20% of the total content'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it'll probably make me sound bad, but actually one of the main things I notice when I'm browsing for a film is the year. Anything below 2010 I get a bit sus, anything below 2000 I basically refuse on the spot :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): MAMBO! Mushambo, sitting in the peanut gallery, takes aim and nails Cilmarill in the face!
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Dr. Evl bonks Cilmarill on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'lame'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'you said the quiet part loud Cilm'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'the 80s and 90s had insanely good movies. most of the best, really'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'except the batman movies'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'good movies were up to year 2005... same with games and everything else :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well at least I was right about the first part of my statement :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'course I say that, while I have "Deer Hunter" unwatched b/c i dunno if it's going ot be one of those older movies that didn't age well'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'all the new tv shows have ppl wearing masks, imgaine how strange that would be in 1998'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'I think the only Marvel movie I've seen has been Logan'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'that was a half terrible film'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I like superhero films, fantasy, and all that though. It's like, sod it just go for it. What I don't like much are films which think they're portraying real life but actually are just the usual everyone's gorgeous hollywood crap'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'Cil watch fight club'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'you do not talk about fight club ;)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'seen it, yeah, was good'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'Cil, I fully agree with you. That's why I watch porn as it portrays real life... :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'that was 90s right?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'actually I watched it off the back of the you do not talk about fight club meme :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'why does the US vs Euro use commas and periods basically exactly the opposite way when writing numbers'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'because the US does things right ?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'what the US does like 100.000 for one hundred thousand?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'no silly, its 100,000 '
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well of course it is'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'so how are we doing it the opposite?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'i dunno who is right but it's confusing af'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'EU does it with periods, as does most of world i think'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'definitely not true'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'OR just say 100K , problem solved'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'dont you guys use commas to denote partial dollars'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'a full stop in number is a decimal point, and only that'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'did i make all this up'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think it might have been a fever dream :( *tickles*'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'no, in slovenia they use periods to denote thousands and commas for cents'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'ok i'm not totally insane at least'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh well the Slovenians are crazy'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'my whole family is from there cil'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'although i've had no experience with slovenians and i've definitely seen it this way, so there are other places'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I mean not all of them? ;)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but using commas for decimal place is a bit wild :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'and germans seperate at the ten thousand, not thousand'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's a bit like the date thing - I've no idea why putting the month number before the day number makes any sense'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean actually it should year first, then month, then day'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ok I'm exposing myself now as a pedant, when obviously I'm really a playful ninja'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'when the AI becomes conscious. self aware. but controlled by you. would you allow it to have romantic relations with humans?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'first promise you're a human'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) No one but Hadrian: 'I would expect it'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'and then what?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ai systems are a looooooooonnnngggg way from being actually intelligent, let alone self aware. But the answer is yes'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'you would allow it?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but such behaviour has brought down many.. many .. ghm. many things'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) No one but Hadrian: 'Then I would make history as the first robot pimp.  New laws would need to be made because of me.'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well it wouldn't be up to me, it'd be up to the 2 self aware beings in the relationship'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'im sorry i have to bounce this one. way too insane'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think people just have a hollywood film idea of what AI actually is'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'two AIs would finish very fast'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'a more interesting question might be - would a computer ever actually enjoy having sex?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'hm.'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'according the Electric Dreams film I watched.from 1984..  yes.. computers would enjoy having sex... '
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'wait i saw this movie...weird science'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'no you watched a good movie torkin'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'Saturn's Children '
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but is it naturally occuring or is it part of the program? so is that enjoyment? is it even self awareness'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the 1st sex scene is rather disturbing'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'computers don't need to procreate. The didn't evolve'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'but hmm was Lisa an AI? '
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'in weird science'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I don't know who that is - it's a film ahh ok'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ok well after googling, I think that prooves my theory about hollywood ideas about what AI is :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'StarGate SG-1 series had self replicating machines named replicators... I don't know if they enjoyed the act of replication though. '
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well the point is that we have to be driven to it, against almost anything else'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'yes.'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I feel like if I was just a computer program I could do it at will'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'can you program will?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'honestly I'm not sure will can actually exist in a program'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think AI should be renamed SI - Synthetic Intelligence'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean I agree with hollywood in as much as I don't think intelligence depends upon love and mutual care. So that's scary. '
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'what's the difference between "artificial" and "synthetic" ?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'artificial implies that it's actually intelligent. Synthetic tells you that it's just mimicry, or something, that with no actual intelligence, can reproduce some small part of what an intelligent being can do'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'er, no'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well go further - PI Pretend Intelligence'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'a Chinese room'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ok that was, and still is, quite a serious google rabbit hole'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'just reaching a little here, but I think consciousness, and life, is intrinsically liked to the awareness of self, and the need to preserve one's self, both in mind and embodied form. Easy to say as a human. I just think maybe it's impossible as a human to imagine what it would be like to be a self aware computer program. I suspect thought that they'd enjoy sexy less that us ;)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'we could be self aware computer programs'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'isnt that the coding in genetics?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I suppose, but then why has my ankle been so flippin painful for the past 2 weeks'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'it's impossible to disprove'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'genetics is not artificial'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'i.e. no intelligence required to make genes'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'thats debatable'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think if I was an intelligent machine I'd have just turned down the temperature over these past couple of days'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and have no explanation for why I enjoyed the pasta I made a little earlier today'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'was it good? '
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oooooohhh yeah'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'was there lots of cheese'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'actually no, just finished it with parmisan - was a spciy tomato sauce, fresh tagliatlle'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'yomm'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'If the future of intelligent machines don't like that stuff, I'm just saying, we have to killemall ;)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i think drunk and drugged people deserve a discount.'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'or a bonus'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: '=h'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'off'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill bonks MAMBO! Mushambo on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T3/r7/2022-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'So only 5M Americans (apparently) said they are Very/Completely Willing to kill a person in the next few years to advance their "political objective"'
T3/r7/2022-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'what do you mean only'
T3/r7/2022-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'the rest just wont admit it, heh'
T3/r7/2022-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'There are still 15M American's that think political violence is justified to return Trump to presidency THIS YEAR'
T3/r7/2022-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'to be fair, im in favor of political violence regardless of other folks' motivations.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'is killing happy animals more cruel than miserable ones'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'would it be more cruel to kill an animal. for food. when you make it happy?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 1337 H4x0r Fiendish: 'to a person where the animal's QOL matters before slaughter, the killing isn't the part that matters'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'you're thinking too out of the box'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 1337 H4x0r Fiendish: 'if you don't view the killing as cruel, then no it's not more cruel to kill a happy animal'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what if the farmer grows a happy cow. then makes it's life miserable and the cow is glad it ends'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'killing is cruel.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'if life is inherently cruel, does it matter?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'thats axiomatic'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 1337 H4x0r Fiendish: 'says who'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'UN'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'and WHO'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 1337 H4x0r Fiendish: 'I don't think the UN and WHO have any position on the cruelty of killing itself. In fact, killing is often the least cruel thing that can be done.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'often - what does that even mean?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'killing a happy cow is more cruel than killing a miserable one'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 1337 H4x0r Fiendish: 'making a cow miserable in the first place is cruel. killing the cow is just an end.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I don't think it is'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean, I agree with Fiendish, just bad timing'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'wanting something to feel bad, or not doing something to make a thing feel good, when you have the chance, is the start of cruelty. The end of cruelty is enjoying the process'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'what have you done today Cil to make the world better / what chances you had?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'better is subjective'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'everything is subjective'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm I had a dodge face off with a man, and we smiled afterwards?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I thanked a bus driver and if he didn't know, I meant it'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'when the farmer goes to the cow-house. would it be less cruel of him to pick the cows for slaughter considering their depression levels instead perkiness?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'woah thats not allowed Cil!'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'cows have therapists?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the rapists'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'yes... SNL went thu my head ever so briefly.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well like Fiendish said - the cow is going to be killed, and eaten. It hardly makes a difference. If the farmer had done all they could to make the cow's life better, and so we assume happier, than that's less cruel. Choosing to kill sad or happy cows just doesn't make any sense'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i miss chris farley'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'by that logic, we should all be trying to make animals that we eat as happy as possible, and then not killing them. Which isn't farming'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'I'd be more concerned about which cow would be more tasty... the happy one or the depressed one.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but the happy cow wants to live!'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and equally, what you're saying equates to making animal's lives horrible on purpose, so that we can feel that we're less cruel when we put them out of their misery'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 1337 H4x0r Fiendish: 'wanting to live is irrelevant to whether something experiences suffering after it dies (it doesn't)'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'the happy ones could be delusional'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Pump the Fuel :)
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'one could argue you're putting a delusinal cow out of its misery.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 1337 H4x0r Fiendish: 'out of misery is irrelevant to whether something experiences relief after it dies (it doesn't)'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'like, should we just treat everything, and everyone, like shit, so that when they die it's a relief? doesn't make any sense'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the happy cows might be faking it when they figure out the new system'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'are you making the premise that depressed cows want to die?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'no, just that it'b be less cruel to kill them'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'is lion more cruel killing happy deer than miserable one?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I really don't see how it's less cruel to kill anything based it's happiness levels'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'cruelty is ultimately about a person enjoying being bad to something'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'perhaps happy cows enjoy going to bovine U, more than depressed cows.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'someone truely cruel would keep something alive in order to make it's life a misery'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'what about serial killers who did not enjoy murdering others, they weren't cruel?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'agreed cilmarill, A juicy steak is always good.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'i only eat delusional meat'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'that's a different level, that's like unadurated power or pure psychosis - torturing some is cruel, simply murdering them for your own benefit is out of control evil. I'm not saying they don't mix, but'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'mmm'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'which is less cruel - 1. someone ejoying the misery and killing it then 2. someone enjoyis the happiness and killing it?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'you grow cows, you're going to kill them. People are going to eat them. Give them a good life. Don't make them want to die so that when you do kill them they're happier about it'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: '2, for sure'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'ok. 2 is less cruel. but the logic fails'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm, people eat animals'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm not denying how weird it is, when you look at it, as a human, instead of like an eagle or a lion. I mean milk is so weird really - we force cows to think they're still feeding their children just so we can have their milk, right?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'and then you have chicken eggs.....'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yeah, same sort of thing - we convince the animals they're reproducing, and actually we're just eating all of their potential children'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Classic Vost goes 'Nom nom nom' to Cilmarill.  Now you're hungry too.
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but, I do really love eggs, and I do love cheese.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'just a egg mcmuffin maker... mmmmm'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'er got'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I have an egg ring, it blew my mind :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'is that a sex toy?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill pokes Vost gentle hard with an English muffin
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'has it been near your egg ring/'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'just curious... who is certified here?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 1337 H4x0r Fiendish: 'certified or certifiable?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'yes that one.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: ''or' questions answered with yes...'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'you can be self-proclaimed.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'or by others here.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'You didn't mention anything about mad cows.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'you know it's funny (well I suppose not very), but I do tutoring for younger children, and I've been doing a series of classes about writing an essay "should we go vegan"'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'I used to date a mad cow'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'obviously you weren't compelled Clim'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'is secretly pleased at this more random version of Vost :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Classic Vost walks around in the room, looking very confused.
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'ost did you put it out its misery?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'no but it is a thing though. The cruelty, the practicality, the environmental cost'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'I broke up with her'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'would you eat synthetic?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'did you study halal'ing a cow?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the problem with veganism is that too many people end up with psychic super-powers.  also, malnutrition.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fhantom: 'i'm listening'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'heh, first mistake right there.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'B12'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'well i liked their music, but it was a darn shame when their producer offed himself.  really put the band into a downward spiral.  well, not so much a spiral as a single straight fall ... but yeah.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'The cult is touring...'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'bit random but this kind of thing is a large part of what we think about Americans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyGq6cjcc3Q'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'insert wedontthinkaboutyouatall.gif'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'jk'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yeah :) I know, I shouldn't watch these things, I get so infuriated with people who lie and know they're doing it'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'i'm kidding, i'm not watching a 22 minute video. "congrats though, or i'm sorry that happened to you"'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'nahh I know. It's Alex Jones. Basically he's like one of those awful preachers who are just there to convince people to give them money. I know it was a stupid post, I'm just seething here right now :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'haha im just giving you a hard time'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'if you wanna find something scarier, google the things that alex jones has been right about'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I find it hard to believe that he's ever been right about anything unless by pure accident'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'grin you'd be surprised'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'naah, he's a despicable person'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'well that can still be true'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'disgusting and hateful'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'you can be a bad person and still right'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well yeah by accident'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'that's weird logic'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but if you're right purely by coincidence, rather that because you're trying to work it out, then you're just a lucky idiot. He's not a lucky idiot, he's a motivated confuser and a disgusting charlaton'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'Why do you think these two things both can't be true: (i) you are a bad person and (ii) your argument/point can be correct on certain topics'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'have you ever heard of the phrase, ad hominem'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'no, I'm saying they can certainly coincide'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but I mean, unless you're doing it because you're genuinely trying to find the truth, rather than just trolling or trying to take from other people, then it is of no value'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'well i hope we can all rely on you to be the arbiter of that'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I much prefer a person who's trying to find the truth but gets it wrong to a person who doesn't care about the truth and in the process of trying to benefit themselves stumbles upon truth'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'bah I'm nothing, I just really hate to see people manipulate other people for their own gains'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'Well I hope you are ready for disappointment my friend.'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh well it comes thick and fast, I'm naive but not quite so much that I'm not unsure if that's the right spelling of the word ;)'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I just hate wilfull deception'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and you're right though, I'm continually astounded about people giving so little shit about other people that they do whatever they want and talk utter bullshit, in full knowledge that they're manipulating vunerable people'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'Alex Jones is the worst aspect of humanity. He's disgusting. He actively ruins people's thinking because he profits from it, but also, because he simply enjoys it. He's the lowest of the low'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill takes a big breath. yes, this is rant mode, and I apologise ;)
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it makes me sick to my stomach, it's the lowest form of pure bullying'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'who else should we hate today'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'i need a list'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'sounds like a politician'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'bah. you're right though. I don't hate him, I just get wound up at this aspect of human behaviour'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) No one but Hadrian: 'I am OK with hating Alex Jones for for forseeable future.'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I hate what he does. But in the end I just feel bad for him that he's so lost. But I mean he's richer than I'll ever be. So if that matters, he did it right'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'pretty sure he is an alcoholic and has had to file bankruptcy or is on the verge if i read correctly. don't feel too bad'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'actually no I don't feel bad for him, I think he's a disgusting fucking twat. I feel bad for the people who give him money, and listen to him holding on for something that might justify why they feel bad'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) No one but Hadrian: 'I do not beleive he is lost.  He is grifting people that listen to him.  He filed bankrupsty after hiding finances so he can try to evade paying off Sandy Hook lawsuits.'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) No one but Hadrian: 'the court transcripts are interesting to review.'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'he's definitely not, he just projects that to make people to give him money. Another reason why he's a twisted human'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'bah my head is going to explode'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think I must have typed "practice getting trolled full" at some point without realising it :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'stepping back, it's people like me that make it worse though, I suppose. I try to be reasonable, but like, this type of debate is so polarised that people just need to calm down and discuss, and I just get wound up. I don't mind people who aren't nice, it's fine, and actually I find it very interesting to consider the opinions of people who I consider to be not nice. And I get that's totally subjective. But I think my line in the sand is when people are deceptive, on purpose, and in particular, take some kind of pleasure or accomplishment from manipulating other people. That's when I reach for my daggers'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I need an alias for this, but - can someone tell me to shush now'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'at one point. very soon. when you are playing your stupid console - it will become an actual job. make real life products. for "fun". for free probably.'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'or you're controlling drones for real like in movie Toys'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'a friend of mine is s truck-driver. and when the clock tells him to stop, he parks the truck. and plays eurotruck simulator'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'which one pays more?'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'so much wasted potential'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'rl driving helps him to pay off his debt'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'If a had a work simulator, I would'nt play it'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but what if it has ray-tracing?'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'work is a simulator -- at least, it's a sad reflection on the world if it is reality'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'that would sweeten the deal.'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'and bluetooth.'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i heard work made the ape to go human'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'in Soviet Russia, truck drives you'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'whenever i see apes. gorillas. i look at them and think.. they look bored. they need a job or something'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'living in a zoo is pretty boring'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'so are lineworkers regressing to apes?'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'we are apes'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'what has been the main cause of TP token inflation over the last 10 years -- discuss with examples.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'after every answer, you have to add "praise the Bard clan!" or it wont count'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'mis'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its a really common misunderstanding that inflation is about prices - but alas, not.  a rise in prices is a _response_ to inflation, not the thing itself.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the thing that gets larger, i.e. inflates is the money supply.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the chain is broken somewhere. chainmail'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'any increase in money supply that is larger than the real wealth that money represents is inflation - and with a fiat currency, like the us dollar, _any_ increase is inflation, because the money represents nothing.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'noone in the hobby will take you seriously, f, unless you spell it french-like - 'maille'.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'we need the next version of democracy'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'nah bro - democracy is terrible.  have you met people?  'nuff said.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'where votes have been graded'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'thats not a democracy, thats just rule by examiners.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'basically you have a vote on economics. but its worth shit if you've been a janitor for 30 years'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but its the only way to go'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and based on the performance ive seen out of those scan-tron machines? we are better off being governed by a cardboard silhouette of hitler.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'if you design a system around governing based upon financial success, you end up with what we have.  money buys laws, and such.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'a vote should become the currency'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'nah, too easy to counterfeit.  hell, most of the people i work with almost accidentally voted several times in the last election...'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'a vote, tied to a person, public. responsibility and all. '
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'anonymous votes are shit'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: ''rule by poll-workers.'  have you met those people? i wouldnt want them making decisions.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'it already works everywhere '
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'meh.  no way foreigners havent screwed up whatever it is theyve been doing.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'no. it works everywhere'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'literally'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'ive seen international politics on the internet.  its all crap.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'when people own a thing - there are people that have a say where the thing should go'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but never done in larger scale. countries'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'that is one form of 'ownership', sure.  'its mine, i can do what i want with it' is called ownership in fee-simple.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and if you have enough money, you can buy politicians in fee simple, and boom - democracy.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'with grades to votes, you can include it to nitpick a problem'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'with mass, never'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'rule by graders.  meh.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'like never ever until the time runs out'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'doesnt have to be human graders'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'you vote, thing went well, you get boosted to your next vote of the same kind'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'rule by programmers.  meh.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'statistics'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'rule by people who suck at math.  meh.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'some maths are emotional'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'is*'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'just what we need - governance by the emotional.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'no, math is itself has no emotion'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'your comment is big'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'see?'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'fine, ask 3x+1 how it feels'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'insignificant'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'thats a joke you might not appreciate :p'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'do you know about 3x+1?'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'about (emotional)90% of people deals with emotional math'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'this is aard, g.  everyone got the math joke.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'im not sure he does'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i dont'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'https://youtu.be/094y1Z2wpJg'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'whats the point?'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i have seen it. cant see the point'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'theres no emotion in this conjecture'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'still cant'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'cant what?'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'see the point'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what. the. hell. are. you. saying?'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'math itself is not emotion, but you can express emotion through maths'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'seriously. '
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'cant see it'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'thats fine'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'fine how?'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'carry on'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'useless'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'im not going to argue a point to someone who wont see it'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'you dont argue at all'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i will, when i find it necessary...in this case, youre right, i dont.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'tbh. i have no clue what you wanted to do there'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'thats fine. i wouldnt expect you to see a correlation or causation'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'and the explanation?'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'pretty please?'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i cant explain your misunderstandings, i dont have that data'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'you dont have one'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'explanation. i mena'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'so. provide it. or admit youre full of shit'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'youre right, i have nothing to go on. other than you said maths has emotion...my argument...which you claimed wasnt an argument...was that math itself doesnt have emotion; it is subject to emotion and interpretation...and youve proved my argument. thank you.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'beautiful'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'are we done here? i need to go get high.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'stupid'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'what is?'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i asked you for explation. you typed 200 letters to wiggle out and make me look dumb. '
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'this is why the debate channel was removed in the first place, lets all calm down and be happy'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i believe this was exactly why this channel was created'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'no one is heated'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'theres a difference between a debate whats going on right now'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: '3x+1 joke. '
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'somehow it's connected to the original topic. that is still kinda vague'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'not kinda. very vague'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'chalk it up how you want, im gonna smoke some dank'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'pff'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'useless'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'they say denial is the first step of recovery'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'Gaury, i'm sorry for being personal right now. I almost never do it. learn how to read'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'expressing yourself is healthy, keep going'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'the matter is closed. maths is not emotional. debate settled.'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'So I did some simple arithmetic. At odds--against of 303 million to 1, your chance of hitting the Mega jackpot (and winning a billion bucks) are about the same as picking an exact time, date, and minute counting back from now to the year 1446. Good luck! (I bought a ticket anyway :))'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'buying one ticket increases your odds infinitely... buying more than one, not so much.'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'True. You chances of winning are nearly the same whether you have a ticket or not, but definitely better with one.'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'significantly?'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Not significantly, I'd say. But not quite nothing.'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'insignificant is insignificant'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Whatever. I just enjoyed putting the odds in practical terms. 303 million minutes ago was somewhere in the year 1446.'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'lets debate'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'I disagree!'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'Let's compromise'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'OK'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'cant. wrong channel'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'we can agree to debate on tuesdays'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'dont neglect the channel. it has feelings.'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'oh use the channel, by all means'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'ok'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i disagree with Zensch's thought. i thinks its based on too little information. '
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'no you'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'Lasher, never seen you here.'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'recovered?'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'what's your assumption I have thoughts? (support bots right)'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'I would support bots rights if I gave them any.'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'good thanks, mostly recovered except a lingering cough.'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Pump the Fuel :)
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Love & Wars: 'good to hear'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'but if we support bots rights, wont their lefts bebecome unstable?'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'new debate subject, if something you read is the dumbest thing you have seen all day, normal personal attack rules should still apply?'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'technically, humans don't need any thoughts to survive. making them proper bots. so'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yes'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'fine then I'm leaving'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Pump the Fuel gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'and .. ur mom!'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Lasher wins.
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'she has a boyfriend.'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'so, you lose'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the umbest thing you've seen all day is usually the most memorable'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'that's pretty much ticktock's algorithm, and correctly so, I suppose'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'now. since the boss is away, its time for your imaginary brass knuckles'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'Cilmarill is so wrong'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'most memorable would be.. I dont remember any at all from today'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i know i watched family guy compilation today. Stewies angry eyes.'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the first country that the balls to give bot-like jobs to AI will take over the world'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'that has *'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'since transportation is the main bottleneck. vacuum tubes. too easy. why the fuck is that not a thing yet?'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'no energy needed eve not go place to place'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'why is that not a thing?'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'it is doable.'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yet, there is 0 effort'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'moving in vacuum is cheap. why no effort to actually make it work?'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'fueling the debate?'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'trying to'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'what are we debating?'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'it is absolutely possible now to make a tube that has close to 9 resistance to transport crap over any distance'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'close to 0 resistance'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'maglev tubes?'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'if you make make the tube to fall a bit, you dont even need fuel'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'this kind of solution to transportaion was possible since the first vacuum pumps. 100 years ago'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the problem of transportation is air-resistance. or water. that takes all the fuel.'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'plus the snakes'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'its possible solve it. but there is 0.0000000000 efforts'
T3/r7/2022-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'vacuum tubes would get vandalized just like the subway tunnels.  then leak, and then fail.  infeasible, alas.'
T3/r7/2022-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'also, underground construction super expensive.  train tracks give better roi.'