T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'Ohio policeman shot and killed an unarmed black guy in the guy's bedroom'
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/01/us/columbus-ohio-police-shooting-donovan-lewis/index.html '
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'Mushambo - yeah I read about all of that. It's so blatant it's ridiculous'
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'that's how they operate though. Everyone knows the crap they're doing, and they just stand there and blatantly lie'
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'that way it's both a denial and a warning'
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'how long can living-room furniture set be left outside NEAR curb, before it's safely considered "for bulk pickup, take if desired"'
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'in my old neighborhood, about 5 minutes'
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'surely by dark?'
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'maybe the time it takes you to walk back inside'
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'given these neighbors have never onced invited me ot their pool, sounds about right'
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'what did you invite them to'
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'We got a pool... we got a pond... Pond would be good for you...'
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'I invited them to my well-reasoned opinions '
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Torkin crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2022-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Macbeth: 'lasertag GOAT. Cooler or Trurien'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm anyone thin Liz Truss' acceptance speech watch sigh, meh, sleep?'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'I don't know who that is, so there's your answer.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the new British prime minister'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'cool'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and and yeah you agreed with me without even knowing so I suppose there we go :)'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'she has nicer hair than last one.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: '+1 she knows how to use a brush.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'one of the most pathertic and revealing videos I ever saw was Boris Johnson messing his hair up on purpose just before filming started'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'nice.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'wow I dislike Reece Mog so much'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'sorry, I'm aware that I'm just blurting while I watch the news'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'i'm not even fond of his name.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'perhaps lizz will suffle him to the bottom of the cabinet deck?'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well seems like he's been appointed minister for energy'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'could you maybe go and prance on his head a bit?'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'it's what i do best.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yay! time it so he keeps trying to say things but halfway through his word you prance on his mouth again, please?'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'sure..looks like I'll have to prance on business portfolio... he just got apointed to position.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): MidKnight Gladacus goes, "Hmmmm," but louder.
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'so are you in favour of Lizz?'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'bah everything about Reece Mog irritates me'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'I saw his walk... and it is not pretty.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean I actually know very little about it all tbh. Lizz Truss has a snazzy name - honestly that's my main insight.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'I see she's going to meet with Ukraine Zelensky. Are they going to do a piano duet? I assume she doesn't have the equipment but I assume she can improvise.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think if you close your eyes and say it, her name does sound like a singer'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'country?'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I was thinking pop'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'maybe Lizzy Trust is more country?'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'taylor swift like.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'crossover artist.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'in regard to my piano comment... if you didnt know.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oua0Puihrkc'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ok it hasn't started yet but "Volodymyr Zelenskyy 2016 Playing Piano with Penis" ? erm?'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'yup'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'well despite knowing little about lizz truss, I'm interested to see how she will lead the UK.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'sadly I suspect it will much like it always is - the country goes where it wants, the politicians try to take credit for the things that go right'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm way too cynical for my age right? I should be going to marches and rallys :)'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'cynical yes. wrong no.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'marches and rallies are dangerous (at least here in Communist UK Jr. (Canada).  '
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'before I watched Trailer Park Boys I thought you Canadians just drank maple syrup and were always polite to one another'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: '*snickers*'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'yeah we even have a book about it, How the Prime Minster Stole Freedom, written in the style of Dr Seuss.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'https://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Prime-Minister-stole-Freedom/dp/B0B2F7Z4CH/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1O64VWZGXELWC&keywords=how+the+prime+minister+stole+freedom&qid=1662501929&sprefix=how+the+prime+minister+stole+freedom%2Caps%2C168&sr=8-1'
T3/r7/2022-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'it's funny when ppl talk about politics and politicians and mostly talk about the least important things like haircuts etc. :D'
T3/r7/2022-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Grrdy: 'Haircuts are one thing, but I think history has taught us all that it's the moustache we really need to look out for.'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'there are so many examples, Shiwmps, let's just take one - Trump suggested that maybe we should drink bleach to maybe cure covid'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'that was the media spin.  his actual comment was about a real technology'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'but i hate defending politicians.  they all belong in jail'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'but so do propagandists'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'lol it really wasn't media spin '
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'you can watch him say it if you go to youtube. You can see the befuddled expression of his medical advisers as he turns to them, they're desparate for him to shut up'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'I would still like someone to prove me wrong. If Trump was still in office, Russia would not be invading Ukraine.'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I think the responsibility is on you, Garence - you need to explain why Trump would have stopped it'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'Trump didn't support Ukraine joining NATO. Biden did.'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'There's a dude named Peter Zeihan who had been predicting that Putin would try to move on Ukraine.  Don't think it would matter.  Per his analysis Russia was out of time due to demographics'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'erm also NATO did, also Europe did - oh hang on, also Ukraine did'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'seems everyone did'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'so, you think that because Trump supported Putin's policy there'd have been no war?'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'I think the only difference is we would be providing 0 or less aid'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'what policy?'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and how lovely of the US to sit back while Russia inviades Europe'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'that was Trump's thing.  Fix it yourselves or pay us to help, not the other way around.'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the policy of "if it looks like Ukraine is going to join NATO then I will attempt to invade Europe and overthrow Ukraine's government"'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'wasn't his policy it was an agreement.'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'that's nonsense and you know it'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'I believe that was part of an old treaty.  Not to move NATO closer to Russia'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'pre-Trump agreement'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'I don't know the history though, help me out?'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'yes you're right about the treaty.'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'look, just to put the Trump thing aside - Trump is a bufoon who has no clue at all about busniess, politics, government, or pretty much anything'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'was never a formal agreement not to expand eastward no'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'NATO is an organsition, similar to the UN which is allowed to admit new members who achieve certain standards and certain mutual commitments'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: '"...told PolitiFact. "No. 1, NATO as an organization did not make this commitment. No. 2, it wasnt an agreement."'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: '""There is a legitimate point to say that the U.S. offered assurances to the Soviets that NATO would do something, but that is not the same thing as saying NATO offered an agreement,"'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'given that Russia IS wildly and inarguably violating numerous treaties it HAS SIGNED OFFICIALLY'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'Is that splitting hairs, or the international version of "i'm not actually touching you"'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'to be clear, not defending Russia's aggression, that's bad regardless'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'pretty sure driving a convoy of tanks into a civilian city is not splitting hairs'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'and it seems to be super poorly handled on top of it'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'any snowflake-ism on russia's part about private agreements not being adhered to ...'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'thank goodness'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'no no, I mean the assurances vs aggreement part'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'I don't think there's a legitimacy to war'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Which is a better title, "War and Peace" or "War, What is it good for?"'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'Wrilley you *know* there's no treaty that say - yeah, if you don't like it, then invade them. And I do know you're not saying that, of course. We were talking about whether this would be happening if Trump was still in charge. I'd say firm yes, because Trump is a wobbling baby with no idea. TBH I think if Trump was in power now the Ukrainians would be in a much, much worse place'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'oh, i'm trying to clear that up for myself.   IMO it didn't matter.  Russia was aging, Putin wants to expand, it's do it now or you're too old to do it later'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'America is by far the most powerful force on the planet and I'm happy to hide under it and occaisionally shout stab! stab! but the day America doesn't stand up for democracy is the day I dig a hole and lie in it shivering'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'Putin is a relic'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'ya.  that's acutally a problem.  The US seems to be backing away from that role.'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the best thing that can come out of this is that somehow Russia enters the 1980s at least (again)'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'that's an internal issue.  the russians need a new leader'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'might sound daft, but in the Internet we trust'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): MAMBO! Mushambo keels over from irony of trusting misinformation media.
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'if you can't control it, then the truth will out'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'Democracy for who?'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well, democracy is impossible, just like socialism and communism. But just trying to push towards democracy and freedom, that's what I feel - lets get as close as we can'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'any thoughts about human composting? yes no?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'depending on what you grow, probably not best for soil'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'erm the practice using dead people to decompose into compost usuable by farmers and gardners?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'no im just assuming would need lots of nitrogen fertilizing'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'well yes, few states are legalised using human bodies as a soil'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'erm I don't know much about compost, but we have little composter bins provided by the council, and you're only supposed to but vegetal matter into them'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/human-remains-can-legally-be-used-as-compost-in-2027-in-california/ar-AA126m3J'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'they don't want nitwits putting plastic and styrofoam in?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'more useful as compost than put in a wooden box or even burnt to ash'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'not just for plants, but insects'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'im aiming for marble mauso..however it's spelled ;)'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'like Lenin?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean, if you want that for you own body, then I have no objections at all'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'interesting argument is that ppl would not like to buy food from CA, as it would potentially grow on human remains? so it would hurt economy'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'heh like marilyn monroe'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'good luck growing in other climates soon enough'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'skip the groundwork and eat the corpses'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well it'd have to be proved that it's perfectly safe, and hopefully also that it's actually quite good compost'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'no reason to be unsafe, compost is compost'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm, I'm not sure compoast is just compoast'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'right, but if it's too high in certain minerals and not enough in others, like what's the point'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'b/c then you'd just have to amend with other sutff anyway'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'you dont have to use it straight, the compost can be added to'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well so there's the point - is it actually an efficient way to make good compost or is it just one of those things that we humans can inefficiently pay for just because we like the idea of it'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean either way I don't see any reason for it to be illegal'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'what about argument that human body is sacred after death and should be not used as a soil?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'im not sure CA's the only state that has remains in its soil'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well to me that's just nonsense, we all become soil eventually'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'its not really about the benefits of using it as a fertilizer as it is being a more natural way to dispose of a body'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'well what about ceremonial burial? where does someone's else's views of an afterlife become acceptable to you'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'cemetaries and cremation are not beneficial in any way'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'by fire i mean :)'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'so its not really the conversation thats being had'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well yeah, that's what I mean, you do what you want. Personally I'd like to be buried in a coffin. But I have no problem with other ways to be allowed - if you want to do that, then go for it'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'in my opinion it's all about 'power' of a group, if majority ppl would agree to do not touch remains - that would be law, if majority of the ppl would agree that we should eat flesh of the dead - that would be the law etc.?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill makes a mental note to never accept an invitation to Zensch's dinner parties
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'I don't care what would happen with my body after death as I'll be dead anyway'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'no, but you make the choice while you're alive for the benefit or preference of those that you leave behind'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'just, being turned into compost isn't a ceremonial thing - it's not like your family members get to watch it and stuff. So to me, unless it's an efficient way to make compost, or else makes really good compost, it's just *shrug* whatever. But the point is, I don't think it should be illegal'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'human composting isnt the same as using a dead body as fertilizer guys'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'yes'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'it's like natural thing to do'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'its the option to have your body buried naturally instead of pumped full of chemicals and stuffed in a box'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'I assume that link explains so? '
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'it was the first one i've found'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'no, it says you have your body put in a steel compost chamber with wood chips added to it'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'well, there is no statement what's happen next with the soil / remains'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'then a month later your remains are removed and incorporated into soil'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'sometimes the resulting soil is returned to the family to do with what they like'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'there would be no graveyards which is a plus?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean, it's basically a slower version of cremation'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'just saying. So much of entertainment media is so focussed on killing (backstabs a mother while watching a film where someone just shot someone in the face)'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I get it, death is fascinating. Just as live is unfathomable'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but still though'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'what movie?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's called Hyena'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'hmm. never heard of it'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but, is it just because death is an easy and simple interaction? so it works for games and films? like a spaceship shotting another one just makes more sense than, say, getting exp points for doing good at school or tidying the garden'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'why is the ultimate fantasy to kill people?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'good question'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'also yes, I'm a bit drunk and tired'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'it's the most dangerous game'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'i would play more on that question, but i am tired as well'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'right yes, the ultimate highest stakes, the most exciting'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the least mundane thing a person could do, you're right'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'yep.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'why are horror films so popular? they all suck'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'most do. I enjoy the older ones like psycho, but i guess that's more thriller'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'not at all scary, just go for the shock factor, which is more annoying than fun, terrible acting, terrible story lines'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'thrillers are great'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I don't think I've seen a horror film that actually scared me'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'they aren't.  Box office wise, they are usually poor performers, but are cheap to make.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'news conjuring cost 39 mil to make, made 82 mil.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'newest.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh actually no - the Hole? I think? where they went underground, that was scary'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'hmmm that makes sense'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'meanwhile, something like F9 was 200 mil to make, made 714 mil.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'F9?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'fast & furious... '
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'the last one was just F9.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'oh another series i dont get'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yeah I watched one of those and it's basically the main character being all growly and sexy and endless shots of people changing gears'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'made 714 million, so apparently people watch em.  I liked the first one, but I was in high school back then.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I suppose we all just love watching people dies, or pretending to kill people'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'ehh.  Ive deployed a few times.  Choice of movies changed afterwards.  '
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'not a fantasy anymore.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh so you went off it?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'I watch some horror, like quiet place 1 & 2 were good.  More sci fi.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'cant really do more realistic horror anymore.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but by deployed you mean in the army, right?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'well, more I dont want to.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'yeah i dont consider them horroe films'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'yeah, Army.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm in medicine, so I suppose I have to learn to think of death differently too'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but so that's the common thing - you're trained to kill, I'm trained to do the opposite, but in both case, being close to death makes it less exciting'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I don't mean that entirely literally, but you know what I mean'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'sure.  Maybe also the other end of the spectrum, now I get too much stimulation from those things to where it causes anxiety, with no rational.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'right well because it's not just some world class gorgeous hollywood film star pew pewing people, you actually get it'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill backstabs another young boy to death because QuestoR told her too
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'fuckwit Colorado policeman parked car on railway tracks and arrested woman inside the car was seriously injured when a train hit the car'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'https://www.denverpost.com/2022/09/23/colorado-train-hits-police-vehicle-woman-inside/ '
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'qualified immunity, cant sue him.'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'He may yet be seeking new employment.'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'how do people this stupid get into the police force'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'they probably gave him a gun too'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its not unusual for police forces to deliberately hire the duller spoons, because they are more profitable.'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: '"more profitable"?'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the smart ones might figure out a way that what they are doing is wrong, and stop.'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Classic Vost goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'remember that its very hard to sue the government, and nearly impossible to sue the officer - so whatever they do, there generally arent any consequences.'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and writing tickets and making arrests is _very_ profitable for the gov. involved.  alot of that reward comes back to the cops, too.'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'so police officers can get away with almost anything?'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'pretty nearly anything, yes.'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'the system is fucked up'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'who polices the police...'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'kick down your door, shoot your dog, batter your family into the hospital, steal your coffee maker, all that is legit.  as long as they had a warrant for some address, any address really, or thought they 'smelled marijuana'.'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'they do, v.  they do.'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Classic Vost buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'more reasons for me to be glad that I don't live in USA'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'hell, even without civil asset forfeiture, policing is still profitable, because of all the fines, fees, and court costs.'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'heh, doesnt matter where you live, they get it from ya some way or another.'
T3/r7/2022-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'why are women less rational?'
T3/r7/2022-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'no one wants to touch that eh? maybe thats why.'
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'to be, or not to be?'
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'that is the question. Whether it is noble in the mind...'
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'never much seen the nobility in suffering, personally.'
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'yep.'
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'or were you looking for me to disagree?'
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'compelled speech is as abhorrent to the notion of liberty as is compelled silence :p'
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'also, to be, because eventually we will all not be'
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'eh, thats just what they want you to think.'
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'that we wont 'be'.'
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'in what sense'
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Furen.