T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'I know we all here can enjoy a good debate, but...stuff like forcible gene editing to 'solve pre-crime', its a no-no right?'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'who is doing this?'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I told you, there's no such thing as precrime, and there never will be!'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'plausible application of 'longtermism''
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'sounds like a no-no, what if it was gene editing to solve world stupidity?'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'basically utilitarianism for tech bros as I'm gathering, feeding into escapist fantasies'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'still a nono?'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'right I'm just verifying my steady moral compass against internet folks'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill decides that Mushambo's moral compass is about to go awry and performance a citizen's arrest in anticipation of the impending danger
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fancy Feast: 'you mean, like, eugenics, right?'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'we don't even know all the inspector gadget level zany experiments are being run on earth these days'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i've yet to see where the hard moral line is for longterm-ism, so sure why not throw eugenics in '
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: '"Bostroms argument is that a non-existential disaster causing the breakdown of global civilisation is, from the perspective of humanity as a whole, a potentially recoverable setback."'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'we're so far away from understanding the human mind it's absurd. It's just a fun idea for a story or film to think of us being able to control people in any precise way, including genes'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'I mean, all it would take is some psycho dictator to allow testing on humans like we do to animals and we'd be very close very quickly'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'in meantime, plenty of stratosphere/space experiments ... like my buddy ust got money to try and do the stratosphere stuff from Stephenson's latest'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i WISH i could say he'd latched onto something real, secured actual scientists, etc. gosh  no. but he's blowing stuff up himselff off baja?'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'sums up more succincntly some issues with longterm-ism: https://aeon.co/essays/why-longtermism-is-the-worlds-most-dangerous-secular-credo'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'ayn rand meets minority report'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fancy Feast: 'Page not found fyi'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'sorry? https://aeon.co/essays/why-longtermism-is-the-worlds-most-dangerous-secular-credo'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'yes I recopied, so i dunno what issue is'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fancy Feast: 'Maybe its just me but same '
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'maybe just http: then? '
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'https://bit.ly/3CWgRO9 ?'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the thing is - we humans have *always* and *always will be* more capable of destroying ourselves. It's actualy confusing to me since it's a none argument. It's like Apple proclaiming that "this is the best iPhone ever" well obviously it is. '
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fancy Feast: 'got it'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fancy Feast: 'I'm on iphone I'll click anything!'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Mitch Hedburg joke about "photo of me when I was younger"'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'by no means a philosopher, but i liked reading about it in hs? haha so maybe there's more nuanced interpretation'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'but i'm generally fond of Aeon writers, i.e., i trust they vet the bona fides of who they let right, albeit amybe with an existing view (?)'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ok I get it now, nd it's very interesting'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'again, "why NOT take the chance exploding some balloons in the stratosphere" solves all our problems...until the point of unintended consequences?'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I feel like the problem is that predictions of the future are quite frequently wrong, so you can't plan for them'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i asked if he knew what that might do for the ocean (i mean, i dont, was just posing a hypothethical)'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'so I get it that longtermism attempts to loog waaay beyond the future. Still though, it sort of seems like an excuse to simply not care about the present'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fancy Feast: '^'
T3/r7/2022-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'it seems defeatist towards humanity frankly, and the conditional probabilities are SO remote, that's why I was trying to see if it has a moral hard line'
T3/r7/2022-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'nothing i read indicated any qualms about research into "solving pre-crime" if that capability would keep some conceivable John Connor alive for Alpha CEntauri in 3200'
T3/r7/2022-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'i haven't read all topic, so Mushambo, what is pre-crime?'
T3/r7/2022-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'no need to read all topic, save yourself :) heh no actually been reading into 'longterm-ism''
T3/r7/2022-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'and like any decent justification for its implications, mch of it reads 'reasonably" at first'
T3/r7/2022-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'only under the assumption you can with high % predict the future (long-term future)'
T3/r7/2022-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'until you start looking into what it theoretically permits with loose morals in the meantime, basic utilitarianism recast by tech bros'
T3/r7/2022-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'yeah, they can do it better than Bentham and MIll b/c algorithms? :)'
T3/r7/2022-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'so, simply, it is not a debate about utilitarianism (spellign), but free will vs determinism? :>'
T3/r7/2022-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Which is a better name for a mediocre service tier: "Netflix Basic With Ads" ..'
T3/r7/2022-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'OR... "Netflix Basic, with Ads" :)'
T3/r7/2022-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'In reality it's Ads with Netflix?'
T3/r7/2022-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'pretty sure they disqualed that one in first round of research'
T3/r7/2022-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'is Pluto a planet?'
T3/r7/2022-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'unwilling to confirm or deny'
T3/r7/2022-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'nope, it's mob in inferno'
T3/r7/2022-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'those darn "scientists" downgraded it...well having just found report from .. 2nd grade-ish, i dunno would have to find a Print Shop version history'
T3/r7/2022-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Parkour-Chess would be an awesome Olympic sport'
T3/r7/2022-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'hello'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'my neighbor is only one in entire neighborhood that somehow decided "chainlink fences are still cool", does that mean that I need to put on pants to grill in my own backyard?'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'no, but you should wear clothes to grill for your own safety'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i didnt mean ANY pants, i meant like not pjs :)'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think you should wear your special chanlink pjs, Mushambo'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'oh, i thought you were gonna go balls out to flex on em'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'maybe wear an apron and nothing else'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'he's a weird one, like if i were to turn on the mower for a few minutes right now. he would mow again. did it yesterday'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'it's a remarkable illustration of behavioral conditioning. type of folks who cant stand NOT having shortest lawn on block'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'sounds like you need to build a nice fence and see if he copies you'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'mind-blown.'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'ehh im a renter, just know for a fact my landlord was like i'll pay 80 percent"'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'ultimately decided chicken on propane...no clothes changes required :)'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'is breaking "lesser laws" morally lowed to prevent others' transgressions of "more important laws" ?'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Soloran: 'That would depend on your morals, and if you're asking about that or the actual legality.'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i asked morality, legality, you should consulter your own lawyrs, i trust mine :)'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Soloran: 'Well law and morality don't always coincide.'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'what is morality?'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Soloran: 'The rules one chooses to live his/her life by.'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'if you aint Kantian or Rawslian, please let me know so we can wrastle :)'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'What's the chance that Biden invites the new Prime Minister Rishi Sunak to the White House in the next 2 years?'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'what's the chance he lasts longer than 6 weeks'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'yep'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Imean I'm deferring to yalls expertise for any interivew? I figured 20% was a ssafe discount AND i mentioned "maybe this dude is even still around"'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'whats the chance biden can pronounce 'rishi sunak' without tripping over his tongue or getting lost on stage?'
T3/r7/2022-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'khm'
T3/r7/2022-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'oh the channel is still here'
T3/r7/2022-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'which is more crooked, claiming amnesia by answering "I do not recall" 72 times, OR (loaded question) being too dumb to even claim that defense and pleading the fifth'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'how many years younger than oneself, can you still refer to someone as "a kid" ... 10 years?'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'if you're 80 and you call a 70 yo kid they'll kick yer butt'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Soloran: 'In real life or in a video game chat?'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'What about tiger'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'or champ'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I'd call the 70 sport'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Najin: 'What about Billy the kid'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'well i doubt i'll ever have that problem, 40 vs. 30?'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'are you mare jane watson?'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'if no, no one'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'and i guess the qualifier should have been "accidentally by slip of tongue" vs. "to their face"'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) No one but Hadrian: 'Call everyone Champ.  #veryonevlikes to be a champ!'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'how many "broken wires" are too many for electronics devices? '
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'depends on which wire(s) broken'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i think its the truth one :-('
T3/r7/2022-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'when is it wrong to use a politician's own statements to illustrate their own idiocracy?'
T3/r7/2022-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'there's a sub for that'
T3/r7/2022-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i meant beyond the obvious of aspect of "you've lied on promises" '
T3/r7/2022-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'oh i mean the "if i were president i wouldn't do this" but does it as president'
T3/r7/2022-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'depends on what your definition of "it" is i would think'
T3/r7/2022-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'naah I've just stumbled across a politician who's quote is "I honestly wish it was a Saturday Night Live Skit", which I agree with, the notion that im in reality reading that a US senate candidate is talking about furries'
T3/r7/2022-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i come to the internet for fun, not to look up yute words'
T3/r7/2022-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'im more than happy to discuss more legitimate conspiracy theories, pluto "not a planet", greek sculptures were "painted" etc. not that'
T3/r7/2022-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'test'