T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: how does one in sqlite match two columns in an entry? 
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Using AND?
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Select column1, column2 From table1 Where condition1 AND condition2
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: thx... had the and, but didn't need the match.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabled Abel Tech: does anyone have a mush plugin that turns the bottom bar a color when double happens similar to quests?
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not that difficult to write yourself. No need for a plugin, just triggers for the double events (easier if you have it in your prompt0.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabled Abel Tech: i'm not sure what part of mush controls the bottom bar color. 
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Send to Script: InfoBackground("colorname") Info("Double is on!")
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I tried that and it did noithing for me?
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: View -> Info Bar ticked?
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabled Abel Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabled Abel Tech: i can see my quest info and kill info.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Aah, thanks.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Abel: was referring to Yuna not being able to see it when I gave those instructions. :P
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabled Abel Tech: ah. missed that
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's Yuna. As many problems as he's given me, I was inclined to miss that too.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley tickles Summoner Yuna.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But yes, Abel: InfoBackground("red"), for instance, will change the info bar to red.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Hmmm... anything I add in "Info" is just added to the info bar, doesn't replace what's already there. So just Double is on!Double is on!Testing!Many greetings!Nooooooo!, etc.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Use InfoClear() to erase what's there.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thank you.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: interesting i never used the info bar but i can see how it may be useful
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: 'Stay away from the summoner.. - random lady - ffx
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Dropkick that lady like you would a Blitzball.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: yes. make wakka proud
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Bring back multiple KotR from FF7.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: yep
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: are there other mush scripts that post stuff to the info bar?
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Speaking of, I need to go back and play FFX again. I loved it back on PS3. Mad that I can't bring my save from there to the PS5... I had the ultimate weapon for Tidus and Lula, arguably two of the hardest to obtain.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But of course, this is not the channel for it.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: just ask what's the best way to play ffx now and it's tech all the sudden!
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: hahah
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Wait, what does a yellow info bar mean? Nothing of note to report?
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: One of your plugins may already colorize the Info bar. Normally, it's gray/white.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Aah, I see.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Choo~ Chou Tech: what is the function of "send to" of a trigger in a plugin?
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: there are different logical "places" a trigger can send its <send> text, by default it sends it as commands to the world, but you can send it to display on the output screen, or the alias engine, or the scripting engine
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: or some other more obscure places
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Choo~ Chou Tech: ok thanks!
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Choo~ Chou Tech: so where do i find "12" when i see the code send to="12" ?
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you can find documentation here, under "Send-to locations": https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=SetTriggerOption
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Choo~ Chou Tech: thanks a lot!
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: hello, this is the quantum help desk.  how can i help you?
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: have you tried turning it on and off at the same time?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: java.security.UnrecoverableKeyException: Password must not be null - what did I break
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it literally just told you the password must not be null
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: ok but its not null
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: computers don't lie
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: -Djavax.net.ssl.KeyStorePassword=password, do I need quotes or something
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: -Djavax.net.ssl.trustStorePassword=password, I am not a programmer or a code writer I am a manager with too much access
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: does the 'password' variable have anything stored in it?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: no idea, these are the password related lines in the startup arguments
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: well thats what you gotta figure out
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: well I get to make it up, how do I do that
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: 0h 20
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: password is always "beat it out of me, but may confuse brain further? 
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: I've got this busted old software that I managed to get working with non-oracle java and now I need to get it to use https instead of http
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what's wrong with only one http? why do you need more?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: and now why is my rdp session using 1920x1080 resolution instead of my laptop's 1600x900
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: more is better
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: no
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: fixed my rdp issue no thanks to aard imms
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Remote Desktop?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: this is more of a ceremonial position
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: does anyone know how to get dinv working with mapper portals, I tried this -> mapper portal dinv portal use 2482828472 and when I try to use S&D to go to callhero's which is where this potal leads to it just does hold aura followed by enter, using dinv portal nnnnnnnnn works perfectly just not with mapper?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: dinv portal use id?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belden Tech: x-runto which plugin would that be a part of?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, that is SnD, the xrt.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But SnD has no bearing on mapper commands.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belden Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: so it's not possible to get SnD to work with both dinv and mapper
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Are you certain you do not have two portal commands to the same location? mapper portals callhero will tell you.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: SnD doesn't matter.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: just the one
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I perfectly use DINV and mapper with zero problems, so it's a matter of troubleshooting what your mapper thinks you are trying to do.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: When you type 'mapper portals callhero', it only shows the one, and it shows dinv portal use...?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: |   1 | callhero   | Decide your fate     | 33031 | dinv portal use 2482 |   0 |
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Did you recently get the portal wish, or do you have a hold item?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: no portal wish but I do hold an item
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And when you attempt to run to the area, the only action taken is entering the portal? It doesn't switch back to your hold item?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: if I do dinv portal use 2482828472 - it takes portal from bag hold it enters and removes and puts back in bag
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Right, but if you try 'mapper goto 33031', what does it do?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: ah it executes hold aura then enter
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But does not remove and put into bag.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: no thats the issue
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: seems to ignore the portal command dinv portal use nnnnn
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: my bad I found it
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: I somehow had a custom exit set up from recall to do hold aura enter
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: what a dummy
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's been one of those kinds of days.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: thanks Crowley
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sure thing. :)
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: now it works perfectly
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: Has anyone made a program to parse the mapper db into graphical maps? 
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: how graphical do you want it to be?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: I was thinking maybe a draw.io diagram since they have an ok API
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I mean, the GMCP mapper isn't mountains and trees, but it is colorful.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh, like export a picture?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: like an SVG?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: Yeah, an svg to automate graphical maps
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmmmm interesting
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think there is a plugin for that 
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: screenshot -> image vectorization tool?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: or if you just need a picture, you could always just use the screenshot directly
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but there _is_ a mushclient function to write the contents of a miniwindow to an image file
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: https://github.com/nohbdy/aardwolf-maps
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: oh wow, cool
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: someone has tried it
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: example: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/nohbdy/aardwolf-maps/main/gauntlet.svg
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but those look hand-made
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: not exported from the mapper
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: gauntlet one is most likely handmade
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I want trees and mountains and caves.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Neeper sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but readme should contain some info, at least there was some info on tech like "read readme" :P
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Though it would probably be labor-instensive, it would be cool if the background pic of the GMCP mapper updated to reflect those types of environments, to be honest.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: hmm that info looks like those maps were just hand-made
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I mean, the background already does change for areas, so maybe it won't be so labor-intensive. Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the hardest part of exporting from the mapper will be that the mapper does not rearrange rooms so that they're all visible
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so you'd have to add a dynamic arrangement algorithm for the room graph if you want the rooms of an area to all be visible
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: Hm, lot to think about here. Unfortunately just got called into a work meeting so will have to wait :'( I think it would be an interesting problem to solve
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish, while you are here, is there an easy solution to having #sub work with multiple wildcards (e.g. John dies at the end -> (\w+) dies at the (\w+) -> stores John to %1 and end to %2)?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, nice. After some research, ChatGPT is going to have a more powerful paid version at $20 a month. Waiting for my inevitable invite.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: I have 2 plugins, i'd like to call a trim function between them, if i use trim in alias/trig (in client) works fine. but when i call it from plugin i'm failing horibly. ideas/thoughts?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Your spelling of horribly fails, too. How are you attempting to call the trim function? Where is it stored at?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: roasted
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: homeboy missed on letter 'r' Crowley comes out swinging
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: is there a way to disable the mapper
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: one*
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: like make it so the mud doesn't send me a map
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Why would you want to do that, Dartan? Which mapper?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Dang it, Rhymes. You corrected yourself. I'm sad.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: trying to figure out what's bogging down my client
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: pretty hilarious i made that mistake though :D
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: i use the standard aard mushclient package
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can type 'automap' to turn off the map.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It will not update your ASCII map.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Busta Rhymes.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: trim funciton in plugin 1, want to call it in plugin 2
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: i've tried world.CallPlugin ("4d64df0a3f4bef3e7b50f77c", "all_trim", temp)) but comes up with garbage
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, are you doing CallPlugin("pluignID", "trim", variables)?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dartan thanks (Aleister) Crowley heartily.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What garbage does it come up with?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: a random # it appears
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: probably more if you used PluginID    bam!
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Are you sure you're not just trying to pound it? *shifty*
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ok i'll figure it out thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: instead of pluignID.. get it ;)
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Bloodthorn: pluign is correct. Get with the typo times.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: son of a gum
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Kerith, your description isn't fully helping, though. A random # appears?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: OH!
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Kerith!
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Do... local ignore, res = CallPlugin("pluginID", "all_trim", temp)
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I THINK CallPlugin returns two values, and you want the second one.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, 'res' should be what you want properly.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Anyway, I'm out! Later, all!
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What is the command to send messages and colours to the Status Bar, not the Info Bar?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish shrugs in response to (Aleister) Crowley's question.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: probably should just remake that plugin
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Yuna: no colors in the status bar, just text
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: what if i want to ask about running mushclient ...
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: sure
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The Status Bar can very much change colours. Crowley's SnD makes it red when your quest timer is at 0.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So I assume there must be a command for it.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: are you sure it's not the info bar?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The status bar will also read "Ready!" when you're able to quest, so I assume you can also send text to it.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It's definitely the Status Bar. I know this because I'm managed to make the Info Bar permanently orange somehow.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But the status bar changes from white (or light gray?) to red depending on my quest status.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: whats the status bar
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Once my quest timer runs out in 25 mins, I can send a screenshot to show you my Status Bar with custom colour and text.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you sure it's crowley's SnD?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I don't see anything in SND that alters the status bar
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: prolly some other plugin does that
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Hmmm... odd...
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm also pretty sure that the status bar can only have text
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I wonder which plugin would even want to change my status bar to tell me I can quest besides SnD.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: do you have any of Hadar's plugins?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: i want a plug-in that will let me knowwhen GQs are declared for my current range
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: im not saying Hadar's does it, but I remember briefly having had the same thing before.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Several
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: "yes"
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: drop Hadar a tell. he may know the answer
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I thought the Communication Log window did that already? It gags all GQ messages for upcoming GQs that aren't in your range (unless some other plugin I have does that)?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: or remove one at at time and see
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: comm log does not gag anything
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: well...not anything based on level rules
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Hmmm... I wonder which plugin of mine does that then...
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: it's the other way around... server doesn't send you GQ message if you're out of range
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: help global quests shows this: The 'global' channel announces all upcoming gquests
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: read the help file for more info
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: what's the command to check mush client version ?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Version()
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: "package update check"   or   "checkversion"
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish tells Orphean the academy is a waste of time, then asks "Wut is xp? Can I play dis on vista too?!?!"
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: danke
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: orphean: the version of mushclient itself is never useful
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: bb updating :)
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: rip me, was the first thing that popped into my head
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: Crowley SnD having a hard time with roomnotes, can't process an alias when checking notes from the table list.  Is this known to anyone?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Aah, I misremembered. Status Bar doesn't change colours, just shows messages. How do you make the status bar show a message, then?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: SetStatus
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Hey Fiendish, I'm getting close to being finished with a declarations file for the mushclient api. Informs the language server about all the global tables, functions, etc and lets it provide completion and some (basic) inline documentation. That something you would want included in the official aardmush package? It's pretty useless to anyone not writing plugins.
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: how big is it?
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Not gigantic, few hundred k
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I can just throw it up on a repo, just wanted to ask
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yeah. put it up. I'll try it out
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: cool thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I know you probably don't need it but squiggle lines make me sad, and I like completion and basic type checking for params
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: is there a function to check if im lagging instead of a straightforward isConnected boolean?
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: check for lag? you can try `ping aardmud.org` in your terminal
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do you write an if clause for "If currently in room X, do Y"?
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: to require gmcp helper
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: if gmcp("room.info.num") == "28352" then
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: require("gmcphelper");if gmcp("room.info.num")) == <room num> then blah end
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks. Also, how do you clear custom text you've sent to the status bar? StatusClear gives me an error.
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Or rather StatusClear()
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: isn't it  InfoClear() 
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's the info bar.
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ahh wasn't sure they were the same or not
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do you do a "if in room X or Y, then" if clause?
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Just a comma?
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: Does anyone eles ever have the issue in woodelves where mappe wants to tray to take you through the locked door near the starting room, so it always messes up the goto directions?
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miscreant Omnivek Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you can set an exit lock to prevent that
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: or just get the key
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just change exit from that room
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: that key is permanent BTW - if you have item space, you can just leave it on your keyring forever
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: so easy to fix. thank you very much Sath.
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: np (though reyn is right, I'd just grab the key)
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: Oh, i didn't know that. I think I must have dropped it long ago... haha
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it's a wand of earth displacement found on peryana at 32140
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: done
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: trying to use powershell to silently install an installshield setup.exe in the background. I do setup.exe /s /v"/qn", get a UAC prompt, hit yes, then nothing seems to happen
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: so far you haven't done anything with powershell :p
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: I assume that "nothing" also means "it doesn't install" :V
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: so ... its working?
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mischanner Epsilon nods at Mannec.
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: Otherwise, yeah, sounds like it's working as expected :V
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: "BUG: my silent install is too quiet"
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: ;)
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: well yeah it doesn't install, I think I through a start-process at the beginning one time and that didn't work
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: Also what Anssett said - you're barely using powershell there ;p
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: I have no idea what I'm doing pls help
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mischanner Epsilon snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: First thing I'd try is seeing if it installs *without* the silent switch.
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: next thing would the question "what do you need powershell for in this"
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: Because if it's choking somewhere else in the process, you're suppressing any output that says so.
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: To be fair, Powershell is the new command prompt as far as Microsoft is concerned. ;p
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: yep, I remove the silent parameter, I hit yes at UAC, then it launches the installshield
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: (also if it can wait until monday and i remember i can find my work stash of PS installer scripts)
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: a better question might be, why hasnt the sysadmin already disabled the powershell malware?
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: Right, but does it install?
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mischanner Epsilon snickers with Mannec about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: check task manager for a setup process after running the silent install
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: there should be a new one
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: check event manager for installation failure logs, maybe whoever configured it enabled logging
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i think installshield also has a native installer log flag
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: (but i sure don't remember its syntax)
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Antifa Raded goes, "Hmmmm," but louder.
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: well it's after 5PM on a Friday, I was hoping for a quick fix, so we may need to revisit this on Monday
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: thank you for responding
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: anyone else a smidge laggy?
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: little bit but no more than usually
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: -
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: anyone familiar with using dinv / dinv priority etc?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HereComeDe Smudge Tech: Hopefully an easy one: I recently upgraded, and no longer have a tick timer. Is that a mushclient thing, or did I have a plugin I'm overlooking perhaps?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: is there a way to save a newly created trigger or alias without closing mushclient?  for example, if i just created one alias, and don't close mushclient, ... and let's say mushclient crashes, it loses the alias i just made.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the tick timer went away and then came back in a slightly different form at some point.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you may need to re-add the plugin
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Negader, just save the world.  File->Save World Details  or floppy disk button on the toolbar.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: its called aardwolf tick timer, check if its in your plugin list, if so it might be behind something
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you may also need to type "aard tick help"
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: Negader, ctrl+s should do that I think.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: thank you Orphean. 
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: i tried ctrl-s before. but it didn't work i dont' think
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: it worked for me
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: mis on the last tech 
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: Is there a way to get Mush to do my taxes?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: technically or practically?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: your clan taxes are automatically deducted and accounted for you via roster in aardwolf *nod self
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm going to automate myself out of existence.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: auto-imm (TM)
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://imgur.com/a/5Q9FmGP
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: Fiendish, the maker of Skynet
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: that was my question :)
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I know
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://imgur.com/a/ucsBoUt
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Antifa Raded goes, "Hmmmm," but louder.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: do one that writes me a script to automatically reconnect if the client goes 120 seconds without seeing a tick
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith is agreeing with that Antifa Raded person again...
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://imgur.com/a/hnKzY2Y
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: this is almost correct
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: lol the picture says copy the text lolz :P
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: whats not correct?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: OnTick and OnIdle are wrong
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: looks good to me
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: also GetTime is wrong
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but it's conceptually right
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: what should they be instead?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: https://imgur.com/a/xgcaZ2s
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: weird that mine did it so differently
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: maybe because you specified lua?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: lol wtf is "RegisterEventHandler"
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: wait you didnt
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: worthless AI I just want my script
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: wait so do you need both of those or just the 2nd one? now i'm confused
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://imgur.com/a/CU3UjNZ
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I think this is correct
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but I had to help a bit
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: thank you for writing this script for us
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: if string s = "Negader       Level 201", what's the best way to extract the name from string s? 
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Use string.gsub, probably.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: ok i'll look that up thank you
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: For that case you could just do something like string.match(s, "^(%w)%s*.*$")
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: print(string.gsub("Negader         Level 201", "^(%w+).*", "%1"))
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Returns Negader.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: yeah six of one, half dozen of the other
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: ok :)
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: which plugin is the gmcp handler?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the one called gmcp handler
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: lol i was looking for "aardwolf gmcp handler" lolz me
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: do i have to include some code for reconnect? attempt to call global 'Reconnect' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish (
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: :(
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I guess you have to Disconnect and then Connect
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: I was disconnected, then plugin tried to fire and got that error
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: use Disconnect() + Connect() instead of Reconnect
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: and say that it came from chatgpt :)
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: here's a follw up question:  if string s = "Negader       Level 201", Can i extract the name and level (number vaule) using a single line? if so, how?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: regex ought to be able to grab it. 
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: i'm sure, but i don't know how to write regex to grab both.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: negader: try asking chatgpt how!
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it'd be a match on something like ^(a-zA-Z)+\w+Level\(\d+\)$ ... off to check that now bc i'm curious how good i eyeballed the pattern haha
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: oh no parens around level
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: ewp
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yeah don't use that pattern at all *grin
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ok tested - does not work when connected but autotick off, but does work when disconnected - https://github.com/Uagr/Aardwolf/blob/main/Aardwolf_Reconnector.xml
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: doesn't work? :(
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: does when disconnected, but not when connected with tick off
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you need to receive ticks obvs
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: but fact it works when disconnected = the win :)
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: guess now i needa figure out how to autologin lolz
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it should work :(
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: negader: ^([a-zA-Z]+)\s+Level (\d+)$ - can replace the ([a-zA-Z]+) with Negader if you only want it to work for you :P grabbing the matches from that regex is gonna be based on how you do your string matching. with lua you might have to use a lua match format rather than regex, depends on what you're using for matching. https://regex101.com/ is a great resource for testing regexes, less so for lua matching
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: it does when disconnected, not sure how to test connected but not getting gmcp ticks tho
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: i can do regex i regex101.com, but i don't know how to write in lua expression to capture the string as values.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I wonder why disconnect isn't disconnecting you :(
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: http://lua-users.org/wiki/PatternsTutorial is a good start on that neg
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: it shouldn't disconnect me as long as it's getting ticks while connected, counter resets, know how to test staying connected but not getting gmcp ticks?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: would just disabling ticks work?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: why would you want to disable ticks?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: i wouldn't, but for testing the disconnect() feature :p
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: gmcp ticks should come even with autotick off
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: oh i can disable gmcp handler right? unless disconnect/connect are in there
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it won't let you
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: lol ya noticed - You are not allowed to disable the GMCP_handler plugin. It is necessary for other plugins.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: well if connected you should be getting ticks, so have to assume the disconnect part works unless some serious lag (onlyway i can think to test it)... but the reconnect part works so i think its a win
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: using string.find i can write what i needed to do, but just wante to learn how to do it with regex.  it seems numbers can be extracted with %d+, but seems words require %1 for some reason.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: ah. string.find can't use regex.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: if you match in mushclient triggers you can use regex, otherwise it's lua pattern stuff
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: I think %w can be used for words? i could be wrong
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: It can but it's not full regex
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: mush does ship with a pcre wrapper by Nick Gammon if you really, really wanted regex
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: ok let me clarify, i can write what i needed to using without regex, with using string.find   But wanted to learn how to use regex and string.match
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I have code that will turn a lua pattern into equivalent regex that works for everything except for the frontier pattern
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i think you just do like i,j = string.match(input_string,pattern)
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: if you're expecting 2 matches
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: is there a way to disable autoconnecting in the MUSH package? Connection->Auto Connect is disabled, but my client still auto connects
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: do you mean autoconnect or auto-login?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: auto connect
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: because I don't want my client to connect when I start up mushclient
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: File->General Preferences has a tab for worlds to open at startup
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Global Preferences
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you can remove your aardwolf world file from it
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I want to be able to open the aardwolf world file without connecting
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: because I have plugins that do things while the mud isn't connected, and I want to be able to test/use them without also connecting
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: global preferences -> general -> autoconnect to world on open?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: disabled.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: as in it's disabled, but my client still autoconnects
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yeah...
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: is it built in to one of the mush package plugins?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: aard_new_connection.xml
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you can probably disable it
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: cool, thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: er, maybe
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: maybe not
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hahahahaha
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I can at least comment out Connect()
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: until you update
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I don't update
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh, well then
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: shouldn't this work? I'm getting blanks "lua require 'gmcphelper';gmcpstatus = gmcp("state");print(gmcpstatus)" - i changed // to lua for me
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ^tried in afk mode too
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you want "char.status.state"
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: thx!
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: hmmf dont think state is right on login https://imgur.com/a/T3ULtgF shouldn't it be 1?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: gmcp state is wrong sometimes
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I think it's also wrong around exiting notes
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: well thats a sad state!
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: is there a good example for starting/using a db? cause lets just say non gold cps are a pain :)
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=database
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: chatgpt gave me an answer, but i had to fix the answer.  and this works.  name, level = string.match(s, "(%w+)%s+%w+:%s(%d+)")
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: what is this chatgpt
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: chat.openai.com
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: tx
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: Why would a mapper goto work when typed directly but fail as an alias, both as a MUD alias and a client alias?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: send to execute?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: won't work in the mud, it's not using mud commands
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: it cannot be mud alias...
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: ok, that did it, and yah that makes sense.  Thank you
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: only took me 4 tiers to realize the S&D circle is red and green when you are ready for next campaign
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: ok everyone, quick, give your best snd tips
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: cool, eh? like the traffic lights...
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: you can right click Go, to go to the first room of the area, kinda sometimes
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: use xms to find specific mobs
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: what's the diff between ms and xms
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: I think xms is just an alias of ms
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: xset kw (keyword) lets you change the keyword for your selected mob so you can make it more specific or work better. like with named stuff, you can exclude the title stuff. Galoth, the penguin of death can be changed to Galoth
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: The Mush client graphical map is starting to glitch out a bit, chunks of the map not showing up until I walk into or near them.  Is there some kind of a reset for that?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: could be simply because the rooms would be displayed at the exact same spot.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: I mean like in Aylor, the top half of the map is blank until I walk north of recall, then it all pops back in
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that seems more like memory related, have you tried restarting mush?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I haven't paid to close attenton to that exact area, but I think it is the same for me too.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: I haven't I'll try a reset yah.  This is new, just started happening.  Typically the whole area is lit up.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: L:ooking good now I think, thanks.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i notice my mapper updown setting doesn't save over mush restart, nay way to make it save?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: One thing to remember is to explicitly save, i.e. Ctrl+S
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: I've had a lot of problems remembering to do that in the past. ;p
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah i save when i make changes but that doesn't save the setting
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: Is there a best practice for passing tables between aliases?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If the aliases are local to each other (same plugin, or MUSHclient), they have access to the same table without issue.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Selitos: As far as updown setting, ask Fiendish about that. It's hard to imagine he wouldn't allow it to save, so maybe he missed a setting somewhere.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: yeah I was being an idiot, is global between
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: ignore me
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I can confirm, by the way, that it didn't save.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: is there a way to make mapper notes have a clickable room number (for mapper goto) in them?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: if i wanna set it up in the aardwolf client to sign me in when I boot, how to??
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Game->Configure->Connecting. Put in your username/password and set type to Diku
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Errors Tech: hmmmm
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: hmmmm
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: ahhh set to dikkku
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish, is mapper updown config supposed to reset each time you open MUSH?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: no. it will be fixed in the next release
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/commit/6b81050e1fe8da6970a15506325d22988ca9812e
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I figured as much. :)
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I mean..."supposed to", sure, what's supposed to anyway. But it won't be supposed to after the next release.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, by logic of the code, it is supposed to not save. I suppose the question should have been, "Was it your intention to have mapper updown not save across opening?" Speak directly of your intention, not the code. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I probably just never thought about it
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: manno i need to remap my ui on this client
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: ugh
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what do you want to revamp? :)
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: (also type checkversion plz)
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: omg gamechanger - misc change: GMCP mapper notes now display with Simulate instead of Note.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: expand?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: purty peas?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: it's game changer for some... :P
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: why is this a gamechanger?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: right now I going through a toot for the first time I feel goosebuymps
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: cause my plugin can strip out some parts of notes and display hyperlinks and what's not
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: finally busted down and opened my chatgpt 3 plus research api account
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: ahhhhhh smexy
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: perhaps im slow, but what are the advantages of using simulate instead of note?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: although need to update it, cause this change is out finally :)
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: u been awaiting?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: asked fiendish for it and he was kind to make it live as usual
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: simulate uses the trigger engine, note doesn't
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: i memeber that name
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: you can write triggers now which will fire of mapper notes....
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: on teh gotos
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: whoa
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: trigger off mapper notes seems cool but also kinda scary
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: seems like it would have fangs
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: not really... if all you do is post a hyperlink based on mapper notes via that trigger
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: sure...but i just mean it makes it kinda easy to exploit and break botting rules
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: it was always easy...
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: curse -h
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: whooops
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: WOW!
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: how do i set the alerts in the client to not piss me off every 5 minutes?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: this bell gonna give me a 
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: does anyone know if GetReceivedBytes() will only get larger and largwr? when will it be resetted to 0 or even go negative?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: If more bytes than 2147483647 have been received, the number will wrap around and become negative.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh, actually, for Lua it looks like the number is higher
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but even that lower number is a quie large amountt
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: quite large amount
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i would be very impressed if someone managed to funnel UNSIGNED_INT_MAX bytes through a mud client.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: well it's signed int, because...uhh...reasons I guess. Except for Lua it's a double, so much larger
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: you said larger than signed.  so i guessed.  impressive, either way.  also, why would anyone be counting bytes with a floating point number? thats just jank.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Lua's native type is double
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ... i guess it would work until you ran into precision limits, but still - eww.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: i dont understand but i grt the idea :/ tks!
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it safely represents at least all integers between -9007199254740992 and 9007199254740992
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: mmm.  ok, that would also be a decently impressive throughput :p
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: I tried to program recall into mapper. It shows up in the portals list red and says nomap.
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: whats your portal command?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: red is normal
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: red is fine. nomap is not.
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: hmm I just typed in mapper portal recall while standing in my recall room. It's a closed clan room where recall takes me.
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: is your clan mappable?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: yeah some clan areas are not mappable
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: ya, guess not. 
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: is down from your clan recall aylor recall?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: map it to recall semi-colon d
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: smart
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: I finally download the newest mush updated my 2004 version.  It all looks good except the big graphical map is missing. I tried restaard and that didn't show up any suggestions?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: i'm not sure, but try help bigmap
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I'd try "bigmap reset" and "bigmap unmerge". Then toggle it on and off. And bigmap merge at the end.
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Just a reset basically
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: the big map wasn't the correct window ha. Basically it looke like the regular room mini window, but its clickable and such a little more detailed.
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: in that case try: mapper show
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: awesome that worked thanks!
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Great!
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: is there a reason a runto from recall would try to send me through a down exit three steps in when there isn't one?  It's only doing it on a couple of runtos, not everything though
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: clan hall moved or changed maybe
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: may be trying to go through a clan exit that doesn't exist any more
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: or you've a cexit configured at recall accidentally?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: sorry, it's an xrunto from SnD that's busted, runto is correct, my bad
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yea "runto" uses mud data. snd uses mapper data
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: ok seems like it might have been a manually or accidentally added d exit, awk
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: ty much
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyone want to join my group for a second to help me test something?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: sure
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: no worries
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: i asked a day or two ago so hopefully i didn't miss an answer - but is there a way to put clickable mapper goto links in a mapper note?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: I did find a trick for that - "mapper next #" will take you to the number in the list.
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: After you do a "mapper find" or whatever.
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: It's not a link, but it does make it so you type 1 number instead of a bunch of 'em.
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i added a "mapper note find" feature to my s&d which made clickable links
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: the use case that made me think of it was the stupid cataclysm AQ where you need to go to a few consecutive rooms to gather the keys. it'd be amazing to just go to the first one and then have clickable links in each room
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: not sure if there's a better way, it's super ugly but oworked for me
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: latest version uses simulate for notes, so you can trigger on them and make them into hyperlinks
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Reyn goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: how do i query what version of aard client the user is using?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you mean from inside a plugin?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yep
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's in aard_lua_extras.lua
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: require "aard_lua_extras"   and then you get PackageVersion() and PackageVersionFull() and PackageVersionExtended() functions
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: oh ok cool
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i guess i can use >= assuming u keep using same version numbering for the rest of time
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I will keep going up, yes
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: if i want to upgrade my existing mushclient, what's the best way to do it?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: type "package update check"
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: step 1) backup =)
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: thanks i'll read that
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: just quit mushclient and then point my latest installer at your mushclient folder.
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: mapper saves to the db independently of mushclient saving right?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: ok cool ty
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: is there a way to toggle MUSHclient playing sounds?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: sphelp
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: if you're asking about the soundpack
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: not soundpack sounds, looking to mute any sound. i have lots of sound in triggers and want to mute the client from making sounds :/
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fyzzy Xyzzy Tech: how do I execute a lua command in immediate mode?  I seem to recall there being a way to do it, but can't remember how.
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ctrl+I?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not sure what you're asking.
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: /// ?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ctrl+I opens the "Immediate window" which is scripting.
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Epsilon: it's \\\, generally.
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: Ah. Sorry, I'm cross-eyed.
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear Mischanner Epsilon has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ...
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fyzzy Xyzzy Tech: that works... thanks ;)
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: my map mini window doesn't show the possible directions anymore, anyway to show those again?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: the ascii map? there is an option if you right-click it
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: yes thanks so much :)
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: the window doesn't resize, so sometimes ppl have to make it larger to see the exits
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: it showed up when I added it, so thanks again!
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: hook up third monitor or learn how to learn workspaces? 
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Both. 
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Make the third monitor vertical
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: for maximum visible scroll area
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: huge vertical monitors are not really convenient
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I like mine but it is on a swivel so can't disagree
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: it is good for coding
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faithful Ruhamah rapidly nods twice at Peacemaker Negader, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: basically you are unable to see top and bottom without moving your head
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: also good for Slack and email
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 1920x1200 horizontal is probably better - it gives enough lines and width to make those lines long enough
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean horizontal
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I have 1920x1200 horizontal + 1080x1920 vertical, though probablby 1200x1920 would be better, as 1080 is a bit too thin
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I have also 27" 2560x1440 - but for me pixels are too small, so I need scale everythin to 120% - and then those extra x1440 becomes like x1200, though horizontal width is still nice thing
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: I upgrated to latest version of mush.  i have a plugin that uses ez miniwin by fiendish.  the miniwin is now transparent.  what do i need to undo the transparency and make it opaque?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: what's the command to see how many players inline?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: who?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: online also works I guess
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: its always the simple answer, unless it's not...
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Does anyone know if there's a way to set a time zone for Tallimos' Epic Calendar so that it shows your local time instead of MUD time?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yep it's in the helpfiles for it
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I can't find it in ecal help
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: ecal tdif     - toggles hour display between mudtime and user's timezone
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh wait, I'm blind.
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yay somebody else did it instead of me this time heh
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: oh man so weird, i updated my mushclient and got a bunch of run-time errors for plugins
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: seems to have sorted itself out upon reboot though
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: Do I have to do something special to get the snd vidblain fix to work? Even after toggling it off and on again I can't seem to xrunto sendhia
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: what's the command to have mush tell me the path to a specific room?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: mapper where [room #]
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: ty
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: Is there a way to get similar output but *without* portals? I know you can walkto.
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: hrm is there a way to do it where it ignores portals too?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mischanner Epsilon chortles mischievously at Dartan.
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: jinx
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: i use areia's portal manager so you can disable all your ports then try walking
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: assuming ref normal cps and gqs.. to ignore normal/live cp's you have to tell the mapper the portals are out of range (aka lvl 300) then change them back after the gq, or delete/readd them
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: yeah, I think the only option is "mapper walkto <room #>
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: Watching somebody do their homework from school composed by ChatGPT, 'hand' written on their 3d printer.
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: https://t.me/ChatGPT_by_OpenAI/1540
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: I upgraded to latest version of mush.  i have a plugin that uses ez miniwin by fiendish.  the miniwin is now transparent.  what do i need to undo the transparency and make it opaque?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: uhhh
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: did you set the transparent background flag on it? :)
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: it wasnt like that before the upgrade,  was written long ago so not sure.  there is a transparent flag?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I think there is now
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I usually try hard to not break backwards compatibility during updates
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: do you remember what version you came from?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: hold on let me check
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: it was : r2149
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: basic window or text window?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: not sure of yout question,  i have the miniwin in corner of my main window
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: even moved to anywhere else it is same, transparent.  makes it hard to read 
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what's on it?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: actually...just send me the plugin file? I'll fix it and send back
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Cool. I took a list of several lines (from info -h deaths) and asked ChatGPT to create several regexes to match the following, and it returned regexes for each different death line.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauric Tech: is there a way to change the font and size of the font in the MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes, but depends on what you want to change. Output? Command line?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If it's output, go to the Game menu -> Configure -> Output, and look toward the middle.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: is there a way to prevent BT from reconnecting when problem with network?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: Bluetooth? British Telecm?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: Bittorrent?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: BlowTorch
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: Ahhh
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: is anyone familiar with Wolfram/Mathematica language?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh..not since undergrad
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: reckon it might've changed since then :P
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: is there a plugin that cna pop board posts out like helpfiles so I can kep reading them while I mash away at giants?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: can get the scroll one - which lets you keep doing things and "lock" part of screen u can scroll up/down
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: a the simple solution, I can just do that. thank you!
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I actually wrote a plugin that will pop out notes. I need to debug it some more, but I will eventually make it public. I just need to account for all the note options.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: how do i see what cmds mush is sending?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can echo the commands with 'echocommand'
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: thx, i can never seem to remembet the correct syntax for that cmd
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's the MUDside. If you want local echos, you can do that through Game -> Configure -> Commands
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok i have another problem... Mush is sending duplicate cmds but i cannot find the source of the duplicate. I can see the trigger for the first cmd. Any ideas on how to find the source of the seccond?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: prob the local echoes will help
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can turn on trace output, but you'll be spammed with every plugin sending commands.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: whats trace output?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Go to Game -> Trace. It'll create a new window you can access from the Window menu. It'll show you all the executions.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you know the trigger that is causing the duplicate output, you can search for the trigger in the trace. If it's an alias, make sure you do not have a local copy of the alias and a plugin using the alias.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: can try turning on command echo too maybe?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Kerith: You're about 5 minutes late into the conversation.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: holy F thats alot of spam
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok so about 50 plugins do something every tick....
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith blames it all on (Aleister) Crowley!! What a LOOOSER!!
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: A lot of Fiendish's plugins do constant redraws.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: well i have to say that wasn't helpful...i can't make heads or tails of the spam
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What command is being doubled?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i get the plaza pass from my bag when i enter paradise
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: (late to the party on this) sometimes if i cant find a good starting point, i start turning on/off things one at a time. takes a bit but usually can get an accurate read on what to do
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That may be a custom exit issue. Go to the room before you pull the pass and check the exits.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah checked cexits i didn't put it in there either
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: mapper cexits paradise - only shows one instance of plaza pass?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: if it helps when i look in the room my trigger fires off the room name and get the pass, if i enter the room it duplicates the cmd and tries twice to get the pass from the bag
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's probably a poor mechanic, honestly. You're better off just using the cexit.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or if you have DINV, you can use the pass mechanic for that very reason.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: which your right seems like a cexit but i don't have one listed, plus it does it if i enter from outside or come up into the room
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i have a guess
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it's a trigger on the phrase "*a barren wasteland*"
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oooo...
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: bc the room desc has that in it as well as the room name
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: whats funny  is if i tunr the trigger i made off it doesn't do it at all
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, I bet Anssett is right.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: make the trigger ^A Barren Wasteland$ and enable regex? :P
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: hrm ok
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: or cexit it heh
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: did you say something about dinv being able to handle it?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yeah it's dinv pass i think
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: dinv pass, yeah.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: hrm let me look at that
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: sweet i like it
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: darn that Durel hes thought of everything
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: crowley still here?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: what is a good mapper plugin?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: aard_gmcp_mapper.xml
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: i mispoke, I want a maze solver.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: finger trachx
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: oh he didn't put it in his finger :P
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: nope
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: is there any remote reason i should have "tracker-miner-fs-3" or wireplumber, pipewire, running as processes? "Isolated web co" all sound kinda sketchy to me and cant figure out if theyre dependencies
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: tracker miner fs is the file system indexer
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: pipewire is a new audio subsystem that nobody asked for that's supposed to replace PulseAudio I think
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: wireplumber is part of pipewire
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Crowley is not still here.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley peers intently at Selitos.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Selitos had a question about SnD?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Is that your question, or do you have a question to ask that you should just ask?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Selitos was curious when triggers adding a cp/quest/global mob to the database?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Consider will add them to a 'seen' database. CP/GQ kills will add them to the kill database.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Maybe quest too. It's been a while since I visited that code.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: so pretty much killing the mob will work i don
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: so pretty much killing the mob will work i don't have to arrive at the room by the go cmd or anything
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I plan on tidying up that code quite a bit, to be honest.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: so anytime you consider it adds stuff to the seen database?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: even if your not on cp?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I believe that is the change that Naricain made long ago.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: how would i setup a trigger to add text behind a portal name in the room description?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: so for example the 6 deathtrap dungeonm portals could i make a trigger to put [warrior] etc behind each one so i don't have to remember which is which?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: no need to remember
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: enter warrior works
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: they already have those keywords, i believe
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: hrm not sure i knew that
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Reyn nods at Gaballon.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: They already have those keywords.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: cool
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yea i was really happy to learn that
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: tho there are other portals i wouldn't mind putting a not behind
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: tho there are other portals i wouldn't mind putting a note behind
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: As far as I know in Mushclient you can't directly modify output lines.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: its possible to make a trigger
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: But what you can do Selitos is trigger off the line, omit it, and then redisplay with whatever you want
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: itd be cumbersome to make
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah i was just thinking that
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: what Orphean said
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gaballon nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: might be a nice geature to be able to ad text to a mud output line, but notes i think always start a new line
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: In mudlet you can just modify the line directly. But not really a thing on aard
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I've done that multiple times.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: trigger omit from output-> then modify and output line the way you want
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: u can try using ColourTell. that doesnt end the line
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: One example: https://i.vgy.me/o1WMdj.png
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Another example: https://i.vgy.me/AYYF8W.png
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/118027636/214982660-f88b4e44-4307-4a11-bfff-149b221e4467.png
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: nice ideas
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i may have to add that one that ads up stat mods
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The trains one, first column is total in stat mods. Second column is how many away from max I am on a stat. Last column is how many trains it'll take to reach max in that stat.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: nice
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, this is one of my favorite plugins: https://i.vgy.me/kkF97v.png ;)
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: cute, but i already have my screened filled up don
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: cute, but i already have my screened filled up don't have room for a calendar plugin  :P
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: This is my screen real estate: https://i.vgy.me/HiwSj0.jpg
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: no way
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: That clock plugin is fun
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Orphean.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I have so much space I can put so much more on here and STILL have room.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Nice moons plugin you have too
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Are those public Crowley?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's from Khadaji. I like it.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The clock has always been public, on my github.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: does mush need to be closed to update to latest version using the installer
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: always
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Windows doesn't allow replacing binaries that are open at the time
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: hopefully the installer lets me select onedrive
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it should let you select whatever the folder open dialog can see
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yea i remember last time it wouldnt let me select a network drive
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I know I asked this before but can't remember the solution. My CP/GQ GUI window is stuck too high and I can't drag it down. What is the command to reset it? Something like xset gui reset but that didn't work
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I can't speak for other plugins as mine does not (should not) do that, but I think it was xset reset gui.
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauric Tech: is there a way to fix the text line alignment in MUSHclient? 
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: when you say "fix the alignment", can you describe the problem a bit more?
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Mom's Ruckus Tech: 'make it good'?
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish THWAPS Your Mom's Ruckus for being a moron.
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Your Mom's Ruckus giggles.
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: is there a bugtrack/ticket system for bugs or feature requests? :P how many tps does each cost?
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Rauric: what does it look like now, and how would you like it to look instead?
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Kerith: my github repository
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauric Tech: when I type "score" for example, the attribute totals are not alighed with eachother as they do in mudlet.
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That is a font issue.
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Rauric: that sounds like a font selection problem. You need to make sure that you have a monospaced font loaded for your output
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: change your font settings
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: mine align just fine
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What font are you using?
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauric Tech: calibri
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: i use cousine - 11pt... and it works great
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, Calibri isn't monospaced. Monospaced fonts, each character has the same defined width.
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Yeah, for things to align properly, every character must have the same width
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you use wine - roboto mono looks ok
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauric Tech: oh ok, I just need to fine one that works then
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: LiamSmythe flails his head up and down... you can see the blonde roots.
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I use Hack Nerd Font
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: lucida sans typewriter
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauric Tech: thank you all! Lucida Sans Typewriter worked
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: Is there a command to tell you the total number of rooms mapped in a zone?
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: for yourself? explore for the zone, area unexplored (or area explored if you've found them all)
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: mapper areas <area id>
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: thanks :D
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: mapper areas hedge
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: for example
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: nice, appreciated!
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it actually does a string search on the area name, not the area id, so mapper area hedgehog works too
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: what are the little bars at the bottom of the apps on the window taskbar
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: one is red, some are gray
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: you mean health, mana, moves, exp to next level and alignment?
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: he's talking about the Windows OS taskbar
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Busta Rhymes slaps himself on the head and yells, "DOH!"
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: silly Micro-crash users
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I've never actually noticed those bars before
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: I don't have any red, but blue seems to be active window
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: macrohard
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: sorry i got distracted, Sath is right and deciphered my dumbassery
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sweet, I now have ChatGPT Plus. :D
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: crowley, you're a fan of the proton platform of stuff yeah? protonmail etc
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: they had an ama on reddit today if you're into those things
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: (you and any others interested in vpn/secure mail/etc)
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: proton is ok, but in case they need to give your data/logs to govt they will do that (just like any other provider)
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it's not an area i'm heavily invested in, just thought i remembered them being brought up on here before
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ooh, I missed an AMA from Proton? Sad! Work is the devil today!
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: basically when someone claims "no logs" technically they are not lying, but they do not tell you they can turn on logs at any time they are asked to
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Proton has a transparency clause. They keep record of legal orders, orders contested, and orders complied with: https://proton.me/legal/transparency
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But only to Swiss Authorities.
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If Swiss law is broken, Proton may be asked to provide the logs. If US Law is broken, they can care less.
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Though if the Swiss are assisting foreign entities...
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: what's the trade-off on bouncing through a foreign server ("plus one to their score for paranoia") versus using a US localized server?
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Maybe some reduced speed overall.
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: Why now when i try to click a link posted on a public channel it wont open in my firefox or any browser, a window just pops up saying "unable to open the hyperlink"
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: got any anti-virus software active in the background?
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: i just use commodo
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: trudeau broke it.. i blame c-11
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: but ive always used it. and clicking links used to work. i thought it was because i didnt update the mush but i did yesterday and it still is happening
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: and sorry its Comodo. not commodo
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: if you just copy and paste the URL from mud to the browser, does it work?
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: no im also unable to copy and paste anything from aard into another source including notepad
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: strange.
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: and it appears vice versa. just tried to copy/paste duckduckgo.com and it didnt show
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: have you done a RESTART.. not to be confused with shutdown (because windows hibernates instead)
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: you mean restart my comp?
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: last week i believe
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: so have just been suspending?
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: and / or hibernating?
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: what do you mean by suspending?
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: well you close your laptop lid for instance.
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: yeah hibernating till i move the mouse or hit the keyboard
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: I would try restarting your computer then.
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: no i dont close my laptop lid. i just let it snooze by itself
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: 10 mins or so
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: could you try that suggestion? re-start your PC and see what happens? maybe there's an update that required restarting the unit
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: yeah ill give restarting a shot now
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: see you on the other side.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: takes around 10-15mins to complete
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: Damn, i get ansi for the  30 seconds mine takes to reboot. 10 mins... ouch.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: could someone post a link please
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: http://youtube.com
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: https://google.com
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: Didnt fix clicking it Still the same window popping up
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: bummer.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: can you check on currently running process?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: task manager -- processes
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: find anything suspicious in there?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: copy and pasting still isnt working. rightclick copy/paste and ctrl c/v
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: nothing seems overly unusual igfxCUIService Module igfxEM Module igfxext Module and 3 Sink to recieve asynchronous for WMI Client application
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: if you type the link in notepad and do a copy/paste from there -- does it work?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: I mean c/v notepad to browser
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: yeah did google.com from notepad to firefox no problem
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: if this worked, then there's something in your system that is preventing mud to put anything in the clipboard
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: could it be comodo antivirus. ?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: try disabling it for a bit?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: no i exited it and same window
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: this is a tough one...
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: maybe try this.. sorry you have to type or google it.. https://www.makeuseof.com/windows-11-fix-clipboard-history/
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: even when i tryied to upgrade mush yesterday it showed an error when i tried to point it to my mushclient folder. not entirely sure how i managed to upgrade it
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: oh, did you give the folder admin access?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: with mush closed?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: yes with mush closed
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: option 8.. clear clipboard data?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: let me try the lingk garence sent
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: shooting in the dark here.. hope you get lucky.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: well the first thing in that url garence sent 
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: i have my clipboard history off initially
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: should i turn it on?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: dunno... coudln't hurt.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: as for giving the folder admin access im pretty sure it already has it
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: nope clicking the link u just sent still pops up the window
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: you could also try this expirement... download the latest mushclient zip and extract to a different temp folder
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: login from that freshly installed mush and see if it copy pasting works
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: don't worry about migrating existing db data and whatnot -- we just wanna see if anything works
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: nod aoric
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: does it matter what one i download? the non visual or full visual. cause yesterday i downloaded the full visual one
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: doesn't matter, try the full visual again
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: send a link
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: http://www.youtube.com
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: its not doing anything with the new mushclient
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: yeah sorry, it should be SSL
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: and i cant c/p to or from notepad. or from url to aard
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: but somehow it doesn't want to paste https for me
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: ok now when i clicked it after scrolling up to it the window popped open saying unable to open the hyperling in the new mush
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: sec gonna log back into the normal mushclient
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: back
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: https://google.com
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: nope same window with my normal mush
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: i did notice this at the beginning when logging in 
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: bup and bup go
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: bup go gave me this msg
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: MUSHclient may have encountered an error trying to open the selected URL. It has been copied to the clipboard.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: so, clipboard is working normally...
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: so the client is the one with the problem then
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: i can c/p anything from aard in mush. to mush, just not outside
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: and clicking any links pops that window up
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: let's wait to get the other tech heavyweights to chime in
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: all I can think of right now is there's something preventing mud to open hyperlinks to your browser
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: mushclient*
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: which is weird. because before my cpl month break, i was able to click the links, c/p everything just fine
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: appreciate everyone trying to help 
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aoric nods at A Canadian Wonder.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: sorry we couldn't resolve your issues right away, but I'm pretty sure there'd be someone who could
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: why i {/roomchars} popping up now in rooms around the mobs in the room 
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: tags roomnames off
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: tags roomchars off
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: dont know how that popped up
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: type tags -- see what else is on
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: wtf some of my maps are missing too now ???
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: can mush trigger from note? Im trying to the gag the spirit shield message
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: it stills shows up even i have set it to omit from output
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: in theory it could, if you modify the regex to include the pipe char which is the first char to show up in notes
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: oh dear, i suck at it. i'll try to read up more. thanks!
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: anyone able to trigger off the spirit shield message? i am trying to gag it but it's not working.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: enabled="y"  match="Your spirit shield *"  omit_from_output="y"  sequence="100"
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Click convert to regex Des.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: tried that. didnt work too
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Did your pattern look like: ^Your spirit shield .*$
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: ?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: this is the actual line : Your spirit shield reflects the rain of justice back at rippling distortions!
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: The regex i just did matches that
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: l
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: it works if i test it using the mush trigger tester but it's not working when that line comes from the mud
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: That's uh odd
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: And annoying
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aoric is agreeing with that Orphean person again...
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: I tried it and it works too
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: match="^Your spirit shield .*$"   omit_from_output="y"   regexp="y"
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: That looks right.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: and this just showed up : Your spirit shield reflects the insect swarm back at a breaded halfling!
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Yeah I believe you Des, just don't understand how that can be so.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: make sure it's also "enabled"
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i think its not a regular line
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: yeah enabled
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tain Tech: Having trouble with S&D for a few zones (currently sandcastle and previously ascent). xcp returns with 'no path within 300 rooms' even for the start of the area, runto gets me there in a few steps, and on arrival xcp acknowledges that I'm there and works like normal. Any ideas where it's getting confused?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: have you tried "xset index areas"?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tain Tech: I have now, no change
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: you might need to xset mark
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yeah, go to start of area and do xet mark
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: so it knows you are in the right room where you want to start the area
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: xset mark
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tain Tech: That's it, thanks a bunch
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: Does mapper "know" about tiers for portal level purposes?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: ya
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It does
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: Cool, so I should put the actual level and it'll figure it out from there?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It will automagically calculate what you can use based on your tier. s o don't adjust for that when adding them.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yassss
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: Excellent. Thank you!
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can find confirmation of the answer under 'mapper help portals', particularly where it talks about the mapper portallevel command.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ULTRATURBO Fuel Tech: is there a nice visual plugin for mud ticks?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoloran Soloran Tech: I use Crowley's Aardwolf_Clock
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoloran Soloran Tech: I use Crowley's Aardwolf_Clock
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoloran Soloran Tech: oops
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ULTRATURBO Fuel Tech: thx
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: is the less than sign a special character in lua? do I need to prefix it to get it to recognize the character as part of a string?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: as in "if a == "<" then" where a is a one-character string
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: nm, don't need the answer anymore
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: anyone good with gmcp to check piece of my code?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: my q is: subclass = gmcp('char.base.subclass'), and larer use if subclass == "navigator" then <blah> makes sense?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: within the confines of your data types matching up, it should work yes
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It does, yes.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: can chat window differentiate between user says and mob says?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mobsay is its own channel
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the chat window uses GMCP, not triggers
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: what's the quickest way to port all of my musclient stuff from one computer to the next.  just a usb drive and copy the entire folder?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: copy the whole folder, BUT...
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tasty Tipro thanks 1337 H4x0r Fiendish heartily.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: just start from scratch if you're hard core Dartan :D
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: there are places, and it's hard to predict where all of those places are, that mushclient will use absolute paths to files instead of relative paths. so like little things like the drive letter changing can sometimes cause things to break. I have tried to make the mushclient package automatically set all paths to relative ones, but that obviously can only work inside the mushclient folder
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: porting from a win10 pro to a win11 home isn't the best experience
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: so install it then copy over the folder?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: no need to install if you're just going to copy over
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: obvious solution is obvious - set your thumb drive to a drive letter that noone else would use.  instant portability.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: i was just thinking install + copy would fix any reference errors
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: Windows... still using lettered Drives..*sigh*
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the installer doesn't do anything important at the system level. mushclient is self-contained.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: of course, lots of other computers dont allow you to reassign drive letters. hmm...
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ah, of course.  virtual machine on the thumb drive.  mush installed on the vm.  can include many vm systems for a single vhd.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: I'm sorry if this is in the help and I'm overlooking it, but can you get mapper to give you a room name if you have the vnum?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mapper showroom, mapper thisroom?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: Showroom did the trick, thanks much!
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: Hi Fiendish, Do you know how can i omit the spirit shield message?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: any trigger can omit the message from output
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you can trigger on it, you can omit it
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i tried many ways. its not working though
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what's the message?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: a minute. let me get a fresh one. it works if i test it with the mush trigger test but it wouldnt work when i get it from the mud.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you make a new trigger and just set the pattern to "You feel a weave of awesome spirits surround your body." without the quotation marks, then check the box on the right called Omit From Output
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: Your spirit shield reflects the magic back at an abnormality!
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that message 
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: sure, do that message instead then
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i tried : Your spirit shield *! and omit from output. it wouldnt work
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: why the *?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh, because of the mob name?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: yes the mob name
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: first step is always to make sure that the trigger is actually matching the line you need it to match
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: even the tiniest difference will make it not work
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: im sorry i dont understand..
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I think your pattern should work if you set it as you said
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: perhaps you already have an existing trigger of the same pattern?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that's possible, usually only one trigger will fire for a given message unless the trigger specifically sets the Keep Evaluating flag
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: hmnn.. i just copied and paste all triggers onto notepad and didnt find duplicates..weird
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Call me Boyboy Tech: question .. do you guys mess around with areaDB.xml or edit sqlite database to ensure that "lab" maps to "chaprenula laboratory" instead of "Labyrinth" ?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: there shouldn't be a need to do any of that
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Call me Boyboy Tech: yours is mapped correctly? On my Mushclient which I downloaded from the aardwolf website, whenever my mob is in Chaprenula .. xcp will bring me to Labyrinth.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: don't use snd but I assume you can set custom aliases
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: I mean otherwise how do you expect it to know where to send you when you send lab?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: finger fiendish for the updated version of mushclient
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: not sure what version of mushclient is saved in aardmud webpage
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Call me Boyboy Tech: if my 3rd cp is to "lab", xcp 3 will bring me to "labyrinth". Sulk .. I will check out fiendish's. Thanks.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: xcp command is snd command, so don't think upgrading much will make a diff
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: upgrading mush*
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: agreed, but as far as I know SnD still relies on mapper functionalities of mushclient
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Do xset index areas.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Call me Boyboy Tech: yeh .. I was looking at a few scripts and I think Aoric is right. SnD still relies on the mapper functionalities of mushclient. Otherwise you won't be able to nevigate to new areas introduced after SnD updates.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: have you tried, from aylor recall, rt lab, and xset mark?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Pretty sure SnD has its own settings. Caravan, Asherodan and Bloodlust caused major issues that you could solve by manually editing SnD's xml file for a while.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Again, try xset index areas and see if it fixes it. Also snd force update.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Call me Boyboy Tech: thanks all. Looks like I have to look at SnD again.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Call me Boyboy Tech: yuna .. pardon me .. is the exact command "xset index areas" ?? It does nothing for me.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: that's for crowley's snd I believe
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Call me Boyboy Tech: xset mark do, but xset index area nothing
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: type xhelp -- shows all snd commands available
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: if use pwar's, not sure
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: If xset index areas does nothing for you, you may not be using Crowley's SnD.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: use Crowley's imo
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Call me Boyboy Tech: I can't do xhelp too. Looks like I've been using the wrong SnD then.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: if you did xset mark, try doing xcp3 again, see if still broken
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: AFAIK, Pwar's SnD is severely out of date, nobody has been maintaining it for years and it's a bug-riddled mess because, again, nobody's been maintaining it. Finger crowley and use his.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: it isn't the "wrong" one, just an older one that hasn't been updated in years.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: xset mark will work in both I think, but xhelp, index, etc, is only crowley's
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: it works fine, but most folks here now use crowley's since it's more actively supported
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Call me Boyboy Tech: I will check out Crowley's .. thanks much
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I can only assume that Chaprenula's Laboratory is a renamed area and that it used to be called something else back when pwar's SnD was still being maintained or something.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: Pwars isn't not bug-ridden. I use it fine
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Call me Boyboy Tech: well well .. what do you know .. xrt lab using Crowleys leads me to Chapre. Thanks all !!
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Call me Boyboy!!!  Aoric cheers him on.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: labo < laby alphabetically so priority i guess
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Call me Boyboy Tech: yea .. that could be it as well.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: anyone has a bypass plugin to share? i've heard there's a zaf bypass plugin, do you guys know where can i get it?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: i can do triggers if i cant get a plugin for on level X i guess but checking for plugins first before the brute force method
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: ... i need to put it on github ... one day
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: https://pastebin.com/6cR4M1m5
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: o.o thanks imma give it a go
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: Many have asked for that zafs_bypass_manager and as I have no other recollection other than that I picked it up from boards here. https://pastebin.com/KN3De585   .. Remember, this is not mine but it's what I use
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: zaf removed it soon after posting it 
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: well, now there it is again then
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and you can just copy/paste my list from the note into zb edit and start building your own preferred list from there.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I have a script that grabs information, stores it into a variable and executes an alias. But the coloring of the syntax has reverted to the standard white text. How do I fix the coloring back?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can put the coloring back manually, or you can use the trigger system to script after omit and use TriggerStyleRuns table.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, TriggerStyleRuns is a special table that is created when the trigger line fires and accessible if you do script after omit.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: not sure about triggerstyleruns bit. But in my script I had it colored.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish has some specific color functions you can use to manipulate the information in TriggerStyleRuns, but what it does is it saves the colors from the trigger line so you can output them again with any additional context.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I don't want to change the orginal output, just color it.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you're making your own colors from it, then you can simply use ColorNote("textcolor", "backgroundcolor", "text") or ColourTell (ColourTell does not send a newline upon end of function) for your coloring.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Is the original output all a single color?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: tech yes
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, if it's all a single color, you might decide to use #sub instead.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What output line are you trying to colorize?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: spells from my pclass in 'spell combat'
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Shame there's not a 'spells combat <pclass>' option. :\
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: there is
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: allspell <pclass>
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes, but you specifically said 'combat'. allspells does not take 'combat', and 'spells combat' does not take pclass.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: just jumbled with the skills
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, wait!
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: allspells DOES take combat.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: you can 'allspell combat' but it lists eveything you have currently.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can do 'allspells combat enchanter' ;)
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: way to narrowed :P
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley just learned something new today.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: ok, that aside, how do I recolor my string
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can just do 'mage', too. ;)
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What exactly is the output you are trying to produce?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: my script snags the spell number and stores into a variable for later use. then I have a command that edits a second variable for more imediate use.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I color the line as well to note my primary spells from the others.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Is it your own personal message you send out for coloring? For example, are you doing, "Now editing the variable to xyz"?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or are you talking about coloring the line from allspells output?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm trying to fully grasp what you are attempting to do.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: no, but my second command is an alias that has an output.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What does your second command send?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, and that isn't providing the custom color 7 to the line?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: line 3
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: ?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You said it's not colorizing the line.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You have custom color output of 7.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Custom color 7 is red text on black background.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Is it not coming out as that color?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: oh.. wow, I'm blind. I've been looking in the wrong spot.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: anyone have an egg-mask I can keep?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sometimes an extra set of eyes does wonders.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I've glasses... that don't help much it seems.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: 6-eyes are better than 4?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thy Friend Yerald chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Make that 7 with the gift I sent you. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thy Friend Yerald falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Cool. Selitos might be happy to learn newest package for AardMUSH now saves up/down settings from mapper.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: cool
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: what is the least memory intensive/leaking linux browser? opening new tabs is my second favorite hobby ... :-/
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: windows 3.11 no linux back then
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: web browser, or file browser, or something else?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: lynx... 
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: but I think you want a gui yes?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: lynx by far for web browsing
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: curl could probably be even more efficient than lynx if you don't need to render html :P
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: i probably should switch to Vivaldi and learn to practice tab abstinence :-/ the comparison article i read said "with 10 tabs" lol
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: careful, you'll need to spring for warm weather, and fall back into the winter.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: pun... intented.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Might consider firefox. Amusingly, so many browsers are using Chromium, but Firefox is still Firefox and for good reason.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruckus Tech: because nobody knows what the fox says?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ring ting ting ... ? :p
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a red fox cub runs away, Ruckus is close behind.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: their privacy filters hasn't changed left and right.. .and Chrome.... *shrug*
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ULTRATURBO Fuel Tech: the free software that we love so much. do macs have them as much as win?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ULTRATURBO Fuel Tech: uh?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: do mac's have mushclient or is it variation through windows?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: you can get an exentsion/plugins that free up memory from tabs after xx mintues. 
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just asking
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ULTRATURBO Fuel Tech: i have never owned a mac. being on win means pretty much free everything
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ULTRATURBO Fuel Tech: without pirating
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ULTRATURBO Fuel Tech: is it the same with mac?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: probably midori mushambo.... as it's built with embeded systems in mind.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: is there a note formatter on the aard website? Thought there was but not finding it
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: unsure. crowley has a note formatting plugin in his github
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i've heard of a webbased one but i haven't located it to use
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: yeah just need something to trim the characters really
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i like the plugin
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: i'll check crowley's thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: https://www.aardwolf.com/note.php ?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: thank you so much reyn
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, the aardwolf.com/note.php was the reason I wrote the in-game note formatter.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Honestly, I still don't understand why Lasher could not bring the same code from the builder's formatter over to notes. The code already exists, so...
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i'd just be guessing, but it seemed like from *something* i read a while back that there was an ongoing plan to revamp notes anyway, and if that's the case then why do double work maybe?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Maybe.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i don't recall where but it read like there was going to be some link between notes and web forums, at some point
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I believe that's been a plan, along with IRC style chats since before I've been here, and I've been here a while.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yeah things like that often have a "someday" delivery date
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: not that i've EVER had projects like that ...
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: Is there a easy way to pull over my mapper portal list into a spreadsheet? 
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: copy paste with | as the delimiter
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: just tried it, kinda nice!
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: Anyone proficient with excel at keys to answer a question?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: anybody have/know of a plugin or alias for abbreviating train commands? "train ilc", rather than "train int;train luck;train con" or something thereabouts
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: is there some sort auto-quaffer (auto-reciter)?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: what i want to get
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: use scrolls in similar manner like pots, with possibility to heal/mana max
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: use scrolls in similar manner as dinv using pots*
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You do know that DINV can recite scrolls, too, right?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Turns out there's a * and ** room marking in the mapper database. You can literally do 'mapper showroom *' and 'mapper showroom **'. 'mapper thisroom', in **, shows all your portals.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: mapper showroom *
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: mis
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belden Tech: anyone ever have a S&D error "Alias function "map_where" not found or had a previous error."
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Which SnD version are you using?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belden Tech: I think its 1.4
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Definitely not my version, so I'm not sure what you can do regarding that.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belden Tech: I was looking for a plugin command to display version
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Where did you get your version from?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As in, whose site? You can also open up the plugin itself to see the author.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belden Tech: well, its been a min, but I believe the git hub
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: ain't it up to like 5.99 or sumpin?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: i believe I had that error when using the old S&D. I fixed it buy logging out and logging back in.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belden Tech: this is Winkle's S&D
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Liam: There are multiple versions of SnD. There's Starling's, Winkle's, Pwar's, and mine, at the very least.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: point crowley
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: LiamSmythe points excitedly at (Aleister) Crowley!
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belden Tech: yes, I think I heard good things about yours Crowley on another forum.  I think I might switch over
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you want to save yourself the trouble, get some new features, and actually have a plugin that is supported, grab the one from my site.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belden Tech: do you have a link?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I even have my own help file! 'help snd' for some information.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Link is in my finger - goes to my repository.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: Now we just need the rest!
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belden Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (1672) Kanaye smirks.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: i haven't has one issue with the one from crowley... i just had to change a couple of things to make it work on linux instead of Micro-Crash
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belden Tech: I only need the XML file right?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: LiamSmythe flails his head up and down... you can see the blonde roots.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: Crowley -- you should make a plugin that alerts you to when a GQ is available in your range...
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: its not hard to make a trigger for that yourself
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: no plugin needed
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: but you level increases... and you hgave tyo see how many you have won already... how would you trigger that5?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: Global Quest: See 'Help Global Quests', or, type 'Gquest Join' to take part.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: when you see that I know I can take the GQ
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: no duh... but if i want to be notified when one is available in my range+#of already won.... 
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm confused by what you are looking for. I never really GQ, so I'm not familiar with what you are looking for.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: just some sort of notification that if a GQ is called... for like my level range right now... it would need to be a GQ that is between say 160 - 180 with 200 or less wins
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yup you can ddo exactly that with what Shinwoo already said
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: doesnt the little circle in the snd window turn purple when there is a gq running you can join?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: but i don't nessesarily want to join every one, i just want to be notified so i can see if i want to join
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: the SnD circle is different color IF you are already jopined
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, you are not looking for just all the GQs you can join (which you are alerted only to those in your level range), but rather just the ones you can join with the restriction of less than 200 wins?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Regardless, you will always be notified of GQs you can join, and never notified of ones out of your level range.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: it would be restricted depending on how many you have won already
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think there's some vague disconnect on communication. Please provide a few scenarios where you would want to be notified, and not be notified.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: if you have under 10, then notify in your level range with the restriction of only 10 or fewer wins, 200 or fewer wins or all players
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: you your not notified for the 0-10 wins gqs if you already have more then 10 wins, no problem, you are only notified for one you can join. My mush just plays a sound so i know opne has been called
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: and see if Myth is in the GQ because you will never win against him....
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: LiamSmythe ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But... isn't that what the system already does? It will literally only notify you of GQs you can win. So, if you're over 10 wins, it shouldn't notify you of 'under 10 wins'.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Er, can join, not win.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Selitos nods at (Aleister) Crowley.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: the only gap in the current notification system is that it doesnt tell you if you level into a range of an active GQ - i think?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Reyn.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: no... the system tells you of all gq's that are called i think
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No, it literally only shows the ones you can join.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: no there is specific text for gqs you can join as we have already said
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: i still get told of ones outside of my level range and ones outside of my wins range
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: you get told of their results
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: not that you can join them
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: you see if they are won, not when announced or started
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: From 'help gquest' - Global quests are announced to all players within the gquest's level range that have the 'global' channel turned on.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, it's the results you are seeing, which is displayable to everyone, regardless of level.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: so i just need to create a trig to make it appear for me because i miss some because of lack of colours
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: like i said earlier the sopund pack is nice for notfications liek that
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, if you want it to pop a bit more, you can make a trigger for that, for sure.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: I have mine with sound which helps me a lot :)
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Selitos nods at Shinwoo.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i also have it display the gq for me
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can trigger off: Global Quest: Global quest # * has been declared for levels * to *.  -- and have that even pop up a message box for you.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That message will only show to you when you are able to join the global quest. You can also gag lines of: Global Quest: The global quest... --- but you'll gag information if someone wins your gq or extended time has ended.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: So, when SnD does a quick where and locates your mob in a room but there are say, 10 matching room names, is there a way to get it to default to a certain room first so you dont get the "There was 1 match which I could not find a path to within 300 rooms:" error message?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: because they are maze rooms?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: Oh interesting. I added a note to the room and it prioritized it, bypassing the default of going by room number!
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: yes, exactly
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: update to beta branch and there's a new feature to help
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: actually, it wasnt even defaulting to lowest or highest room number. hmm.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: u can flag rooms as the start of a maze so they are always the first result
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: whats the help file for that?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: xhelp maze
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: if that doesnt work u need to update to beta version
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: Yeah I don't have that. I'll need to update
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i think the command is snd force update beta
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: but user beware it's a beta :)
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: oh that was easy
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Gaballon came up with that idea. :P
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: and thats why he can do more cps and gq than you or I
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Ooh i like new maze option
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: been gone a long time, is there a link floating around for this snd beta stuff?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: where do you get snd beta
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: was not my idea actually. it was in an old version of snd i found, i think from winkle. i just ported it into crowley's snd and made it work
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Varrion laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: snd force update beta
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: That'll do it Dartan
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: oh woah cp mobs have something called (Express) now
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: yeah it'll go right to them w/o needing the go 1 at the start of the area
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: woah how long has this been in beta
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: a while
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: is there any alternatives to bast spellup? i feel like there is too many errors trying to auto add spells to it
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: hadar has one that i like
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I use hadars too
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: thank you both, ill check it out
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: pretty sure i suggested it to you orph ;)
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: only if you are living in sweden and enjoy kitting was it y ou
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Smoochable Saraid stares at the sky.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Pfft the Sweedish knitting yeti is a myth
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i mean i've been known to spin a yarn or two
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: what alias output do i use in Mush so the mapper is triggered?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What do you mean?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: does hadar spellup auto add all available spellups learned? or am i missing something. me no smart.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: when I put mapper goto # in an alias it doesn't work
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i beleive you want execute Sommeil
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think it auto adds, but not sure.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: just use the system spellup command
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sommeil: Set the alias to 'Execute'.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: i didn't need to 'teach' hsp anything.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: if you do spellup learned you are using the mud command not hadars spellup
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: that worked, thank you
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: hadars works really well 
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yes Hadars spellup works really well and has a nice help file
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: is there a wait in lua that will work inside a trigger "send"?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Depends on what your application is. There is wait, but you might want DoAfter instead.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: yeah, I went with DoAfter
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: ended up working more cleanly with the other bits
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There's also DoAfterSpecial.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: what's DoAfter? I've always used special cuz I wanted to feel special
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: DoAfter sends the command directly to the MUD. DoAfterSpecial allows you to send script commands.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: ahh ok, yeah I'm almost always needing to send to Script or Execute so that's probably why
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: anyone got an alias where it tries to hunt something once and goes in that direction just once.  similar to ah but just once
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Girthy Redwood Tech: just make a trigger on using hunt? move and dont hunt again
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: for hunt once https://pastebin.com/TM9H5uN9
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: anyone else having issues with the website or just me? aardwolf.org/lua.html gives me not found
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: .com Mush
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: https://www.aardwolf.com/lua.html
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: woops, .org works as a site though 
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Yeah the .org one is like an incomplete copy or something. They're not running agianst the same directory for whatever reason
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: an anyone programmed a custom exit for annwn?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: I'm trying to include the wait command in the custom exit, but it isn't working
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ennui Tech: which exit?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: trying to program the exit to get to the ship docking area
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: How are you trying to do the cexit, Fachtna?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, not online anymore.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: whats the snd command for marking begining of maze? can't find it on history
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}7 8 Nueve Tech: xset something right?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: xset mark?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: xset mark?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: i thought mark was for area start?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Same, is there a special command for mazes?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's xset maze
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But only if you have the most recent beta.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: hmmf guess i dont have beta, and update doesnt pull it, redownload?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: snd force update beta.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: We are on Beta 5.3 right now.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, 5.99 Beta 5.3.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: how does gmcp distinct between tell or page?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: the SnD sends me to relm of the firbird instead of Lidnesh... is there a way to correct this?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: SnD sends you nowhere. Mapper does that. What is the target room you are trying to reach? Or what are you entering that sends you to firebird instead of Lidnesh?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: instead of lidnesh and also sennarre...
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: when i do the goto next on a cp, if the area is Lidnesh or sennarre it sends me to firbird
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Do me a favor: Go to recall and type 'mapper where 27995.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: er, minus the '.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What does it say?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: Path to 27995 is: run e 4n e 
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: Path to 27995 is: run e 4n e ; op n ; n ; run 2n w 17n 8w u ; run n 5e 4n
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That is from global recall?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Now, from global recall, run east, and tell me what happens when you try to run north.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Apparently your map has an errant exit north in that room.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: says i can't go that way
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Delete the exit 'n' in that room, and it should fix the problem.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: how do i do that?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In the GMCP mapper, right-click the room and delete exit n.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Did you get it fixed?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: still does it... now if i type xrt sennerre it still sends me to firebird
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, go back to global recall, and what does 'mapper wher 27995' say?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: Path to 27995 is: run 4n e ; op n ; n ; run 2n w 17n 8w u ; run n 5e 4n
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Apparently, you also have an errant north exit in Firebird.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Type mapper goto 32090.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Rather, 'mapper showroom 32090'
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: is there a way to delete the area in mapper and go back to the area to do an xset mark?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Er, mapper showroom 32898... weird.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can delete an entire area, but you don't need to.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just follow my instructions. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: that shows me firebird room
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes. Now you can right-click that room and delete the 'n' exit in that room. There is no 'n' exit in that room at all.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Make sure the room name says 'A Road through the Countryside'
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: in the mini-map window it doesn't show that there is an exit to delete
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If, from global recall, that path is correct, then it must have a north exit there. You did 'mapper showroom 32898', right?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: yes... but firebird isn't the problem
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Please trust me when I say that it is.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: 'ampper where' shows a path to Lidnesh that goes through firebird.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: if i type xrt lidnesh or sennarre or farm it doesn't take me to those areas. it takes me to firebird -- everytime
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: From the 'u' exit in your 'mapper where', it sends you north one, and 5 east. 5 east, then tries to go 4n. There is no north exit n and 5e of the area entrance.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Exactly. Because you have an errant exit in Firebird.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It has ZERO to do with xrt. You can type 'mapper goto 27995' and it will still do the same exact thing.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Because 'xrt' literally sends 'mapper goto 27995'.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: ok...
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: you'll have to check your room exits in firebird
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: listen to Crowley, the Crowley is wise.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Prove me wrong, if you feel that I am. Go to global recall, type 'mapper goto 27995'.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Tell me it does not land you in Firebird.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: then how do i make the mapper send me to farm, sennarre or lindesh instead of firebird. i don't want to goto firebird at all
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you can tell me it does not land you in firebird, I will give you 100m gold.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you would listen to what I've been saying...
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: you need to delete the errant exit, which is what he's told you 150924012 times
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dixon yawns.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, did I just see you pass me in firebird? :p
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliera Tech: hmm, mapper goto 27995 puts me in lidnesh
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley slaps Aliera.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faithful Ruhamah falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliera Tech: did i type it wrong?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Now, the room that you and I are in, on your GMCP mapper, you have an errant exit north. 
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: you are correct that is a room in firebird. but wht is sennarre, lidnesh and farm associated with that room and not their own rooms?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Because you have an errant exit north in this very room that you and I are standing in.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: you have a cexit in one of those rooms that mapper thinks is a shortcut to those areas
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: right click, delete any exit named n
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: right click on the map square you're in..
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: the room in the mapper says only exits are e - w -- no north exits
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: hell delete all of firebird
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you type 'mapper thisroom', do you see: Exits: "n"="#####" ?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: and let this be done
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dixon yawns.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Screenshot your mapper for me, Liam. I want to see this.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliera Tech: fwiw, when I did it, it used my wooble nut portal, even though I have a firebird portal (i'm a mapper newbie)
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: id: 32898
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If there is no "n" exit in 'mapper thisroom', then our next step is to check 'mapper cexits firebird'
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Let's take a step back for a minute.  Liam: If you ever see a case where the mapper doesn't take you where you expect, start at recall and "mapper where [room #" to get the path that the mapper thinks is valid.  Then follow that path one room at a time until you hit a path that is wrong (e.g., maybe the mapper wants you to do east but there is not exit east).  You can then remove or fix the broken exit or cexit in that room.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: dont listen to durel, just delete your mapper and start over
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's all the crowley is doing here.  At some point your mapper got a wrong exit.  This can happen if a clan changes it's locations or exits, or for lots of other reasons so it's not an uncommon thing
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: its like turning it off and back on again, but for your mapper
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly at Dixon.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: this channel is better when people give honest answers instead of jokes
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: not everyone can tell the difference
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It turns out that it may very well be a corrupted database.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Everything is checking out from exits and whatnot, but mapper goto sends him to weird places, and not the room number indicated.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: implausible
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: hey fiendish, how come /lua/aardwolf_colors.lua redirects to /worlds/plugins/aardwolf_colors.lua?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Sath: require "aardwolf_colors" is simpler than using DoFile and giving the plugin directory path. It just comes at a price.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: but why is that necessary in the first place? Why not just require it from /lua/?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: because it was in the plugin directory first
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: and because require will not load something again if it has already been loaded
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but dofile will
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: oh, what uses DoFile?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: all my plugins
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I see
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: is there a reason for that?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: because I know the price and want to avoid it
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: it's part of the bofa protocol
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish nods at Antifa Raded.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: bofa deez prices
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: sorry, what's the price?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that's...complicated
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Turns out, he had a custom exit 5 rooms away from recall that made the mapper think it was quicker. Unfortunately, it led to some errant room anyway.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'd rather just send you to https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Color-Functions#why-dofile-instead-of-the-cleaner-require
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: THANK YOU CROWLEY!!!
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: huh, was hoping for the complicated answer
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's possible that I don't have one anymore
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: fair enough, I definitely have some code like that
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but originally the way the code was use, colors would end up wrong if the player changed their ansi settings
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: unless the module got reloaded
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I see
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: which couldn't happen if using require, because require won't re-load a module
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I prefer dofile myself, especially in some of my local plugins. If I make a change to the Lua file, I want to make sure it loads.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: possibly now the use of dofile for it is vestigial
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I just run into it now and then because players on older mush get really confused about why there are two copies of the file, I'm glad to know why
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://www.luafaq.org/#T1.19
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, for a future note: If you ever find your mapper is not taking you where you think it should, first thing is to go manually to your target room, grab the room id, return to recall, then 'mapper where <room id>'. Then follow that path directly. You can check the exits in each room with 'mapper thisroom' to see if you have errant cexits. Follow the path until you hit an obstacle, delete the obstacle, and see if that fixes it.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: one of the main jobs of the require function is to avoid loading the same file twice
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure that's what Durel said
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I guess the upshot is I can probably instruct people to just put the main copy of aardwolf_colors.lua into the lua/ directory and my code that relies on it should probably work just fine
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the consequence of not loading the same file twice is that the file might need to initialize some data based on the current state of the universe
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, that's what I /did/ for him. I manually walked what he provided from mapper where, and found that it was trying to go north in a room in Firebird. But it wasn't even that room. It was 5 rooms away from recall with a complex custom exit. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: once again thanks crowley... your knowledge is invaluable
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley beams with pride.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's only knowledge because it frequently comes up. Most of the time, it is that errant exit, or a missing exit from a clan revamp. This, though, is a first for me with such an erroneous cexit.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: does anyone experience issues when toggle diff tabs on comms window? when i toggle, the conversations dont get updated (it is where i left it). i need to scroll down to the bottom
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: type 'checkversion'
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Macbeth: no, but if you can capture a recording of it I can take a look
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: ok fiendish tks. i will try to duplicate and screen record. as in duplicate the fault
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I assume you didn't mean clone yourself
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: tho that _would_ be a neat plugin :p
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Macbeth chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I listen to music with my ears
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mis
T3/r7/2023-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is ecal broken again?
T3/r7/2023-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: had to reload mine but it's workign again
T3/r7/2023-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What's the name it's listed under on the list of plugins?
T3/r7/2023-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: tallimos_epic calendar or smth
T3/r7/2023-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2023-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2023-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yup. Reinstalling it solved the problem.
T3/r7/2023-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: why does my far right column in word keep falling off the far side of the page
T3/r7/2023-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harvester Tech: anyone know where the mapper data is saved to what file name?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: Aardwolf.db i think
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: I think it depends on what name you have given your world
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: If your world is called Aardwolf, it would be Aardwolf.db, if it's SuperMUDalicious, it would be SuperMUSalicious.db
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: If your world is called Aardwolf, it would be Aardwolf.db, if it's SuperMUDalicious, it would be SuperMUDalicious.db
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jegeas Tech: anyone else get a GMCP Decode Error message when logging in?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: not this morning
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jegeas Tech: k. thx. I'll check with friendish when he gets on.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: when i just logged in i got an error that said "Error fetchng change log" anyone know what that might mean
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That /may/ be related to SnD. Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But 'snd changelog' should return the changelog.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the mapper database name can be changed now btw
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: recently
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mapper help configuration
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oops, mapper help config
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj proves his cool is well past its sell-by date by saying 'YO!' to 1337 H4x0r Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish waves hello to Tech Bloke Danj.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I hear you're back and hilariously bugged, danj
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: haha
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah I have an item with the bugged flag if that's what you mean
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: we have to have lasher look into it
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: it means there are 2 of the same item id in the game
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: woah
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: usually happens around a crash
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: shoulda kept quiet and sold it
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: and I thought i was special for being one of the only 27 players with a carpet
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: some people collect some dumb stuff :P
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I only collect items that aren't allowed to exist anymore
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: like demonfire wands
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: sounds fascinating.  very few folks would even think to make a flag for 'bugged' gear.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: so bugged items *are* allowed to exist?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: sure, they just can't be used
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: heard it here first
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: (please report your bugged items so lasher can unbug them)
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I did report to kharpern as soon as I realiseed
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj points excitedly at Helpdesk Kharpern!
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I collect illegal items myself, such as level 20 passdoor pots. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: so the reason i couldnt c/p or open links. was due to the fact of my Antivirus Comodo. was using a extra level of security, holding MUSH in a containment folder. and not alowing it to execute to my brower. 
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: for those that were following my problem the last week. 
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ... clipboard?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: no.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: thats what happens when you use "Micro-Crash" or "Cr-Apple" machines
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: wasnt letting mush execute the hyperlink or actions outside of much at all. 
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: execute nothing, fake news
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: <---- makes everyone switch to Linux
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: small and soft will not approve
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm quite happy running MUSHclient on macOS
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i need more tired linux fanboy "M$" and "windoze" before i will switch thx.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: you know whats funny about that Fiendish??? Mac sits on a linux kernal
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: no it doesn't
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it's BSD, I thought
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: FreeBSD is
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: FreeBSD isn't LInux
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no I mean the Darwin kernel, it's a BSD derivative
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: those are just different distro's of the linux kernal
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah no.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: uh, no
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: BSD is really really really not Linux
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: thought bsd was unix derivative, not linux
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: correct
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the darwin kernel is XNU according to wikipedia
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: watch out, stallman's gonna GET YOU
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I though unix was derivative of bsd ?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: what does "LinUx" mean??? Light-Unix 
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: which I guess is a mix of freebsd and some other stuff, but not linux
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it's named for Linus
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: Linus Torvalds
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it's ok to be wrong LiamSmythe
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the guy who came up with it
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: i have no issues addmittingh when i'm wrong...
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: what text does the mud send when it's time to quest again?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: QUEST: You may now quest again.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: or if there's no specific text, what's the optimal way to detect quest time going down to zero in mushclient?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i trigger on (?:QUEST: You may now quest again.)
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ah right, awesome
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: and it just went off twice so 
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i need to update that regex
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: haha
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: bad ans, no anchors
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: afair there's gmcp packet with quest updates
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Install SnD, it plays a sound when you can quest again. Your status bar also goes red and it says READY
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ooh
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I don't want sounds, I want OS notifications
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i don't like sounds, so i use that trigger and a FlashIcon() call
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What is an OS notification?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: one of those toast things that pops out from the side
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I figured out how to do it with a little utility
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: oooo
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: now I just need to write the trigger for it
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: sending to the notification area?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What, on your phone?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no on my PC
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i never even considered something like that. neat idea
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: windows 10 automatically gathers them in the action centre with timestamps
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: using a system utility or something third party to push there?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I highly doubt MUSH can natively do that. You'd have to do a bunch of workarounds. I know there's a way to make MUSH send stuff to Telegram and have a bot then relay that to your Telegram account. Been thinking of doing that.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: third party utility
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yes, it cannot natively do that
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: could be worth a feature request if gammon is still actively developing
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and trying to make it do that will be awful because lua can only interface with C code, not .net or anything modern like that
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: there already is one from 2017
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: One what?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: if it hasn't been added in 6 years it's probably not going to be added
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: a feature request
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: in the mush forums
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is Nick even still developing MUSH? I thought it was all Fiendish nowadays for Aardwolf at least.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: anyway, fine, whatever, what's the updated quest regex with the anchors?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient is in maintenance mode
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: (?:$QUEST: You may now quest again.^) is prob as good as it gets
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I do still fix bugs sometimes 
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: nick gave me access to the mushclient github repo
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What does maintenance mode entail?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it means I'll fix bugs if I know how
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: and nick might also fix bugs
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: no more major releases tho eh
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the last release isn't even the latest build
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: shame, but nick's been doing the mushclient thing for a looooong time now. can't blame him too much if he wants to say "good enough"
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: we use the latest build of the exe from github, but the latest release is still 5.06
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: nod
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i approve that decision.  most software pretty quickly reaches a point where the only place left to go is feature bloat.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: If the trigger is: ^You raise a level\! You are now level (\d+)\.$, how do you an if clause based on the radical? if X = Y, then. What do you place as X?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: alright, great, now I better go do a quest and then see if the alert thingy works
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Yuna: X in your case is "%1"
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: regex results are 1-indexed, so you count your matches that don't have ?: before them
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: and that
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So it's still %1 even if the radical isn't a simple *?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: or just %1 since it's a number
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: %0 would give you the entire string that got matched
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yuna: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Okies, thanks.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: alright, quest done, now to see if this works
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmm I guess I should get some dinner while I wait
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is it more effective processing-wise to do separate if clauses for every variable or do a single giant if clause with a bunch of elseifs?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you're not doing billions of them it doesn't matter
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does not matter unless you use really slow cpu
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm doing, like, 20 in a single trigger.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: fiendish was being somewhat literal about billions (though maybe tens of thousands is more like it)
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it's technically more efficient to use elseif though
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: (assuming that you don't want each statement evaluated independently ofc)
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: since once you find a match, it'll skip the remaining branches
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No, it'd be looking for a single match. It's a trigger set up for when I level to fire different things based on what level I just leveled up to. So it'd only never match a single if clause. Thanks, I'll do a bunch of elseifs, then.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: then yeah. doubt that you will ever feel a difference but if/elseif would be "better" for all but the very last case
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: honestly readability might be a more important distinction for you heh
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: If nothing else it saves me from having to include a few dozen "end"s.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok I'm dumb, how do I make a trigger in mushclient execute lua commands
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: You can just put your lua commands in the trigger actions.  You can also send the trigger to 'script' and give a function name to execute.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: what should "send to" be set to for just putting my lua commands in the trigger actions?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: also, what is wrong with the following:
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: execute I believe
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: os.execute('"D:\\Utilities\\toast\\toast64.exe" --app-id "Aardwolf MUD" --title "Quest time!" --message "It's time to do another quest!" --icon "D:\\Utilities\\toast\\aardwolf.png"')
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: send to:script
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I thin Danj broke my Discord notifier.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I don't understand why this command does not work
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it looks like it tries to send it to the mud
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: instead of trying to execute it
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Did you change it to 'script' like suggested?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: let me try that
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: compile error
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Don't need to escape the \.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:1: ')' expected near 's'
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Should be able to do os.execute('"D:\Uti..\toast64.exe"...)
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh no you know what, I'm a fuckwit, there's an apostrophe in my message
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh!
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: what is the escape character for lua
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, but watch the language. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's what I was going to say, the '.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oops! my bad
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Try %.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok, let me try that
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or \ if that doesn't work. Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, you might consider using: utils.shellexecute() instead of os.execute.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: what parameters are needed for utils.shellexecute()
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: assert(utils.shellexecute("cmd", "/C ping %2 > " .. n .. " &", GetInfo(68), "open", 0)) --> that's my "ping" alias.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: utils.shellexecute (filename, params, defdir, operation, show_command)
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: so this? utils.shellexecute('D:\Utilities\toast\toast64.exe', '--app-id "Aardwolf MUD" --title "Quest time!" --message "Time to do another quest!" --icon "D:\Utilities\toast\aardwolf.png"', GetInfo(68), "open", 0)
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it does not error, but it also does not work either
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Can even do: local cmd = '"D:\Utilities\toast\toast64.exe" --app-id "Aardwolf MUD" --title "Quest time!" --message "' .. "It's time to do another quest!" .. '" --icon "D:\Utilities\toast\aardwolf.png"') os.execute(cmd)
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:1: unexpected symbol near ')'
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You know what, Danj: os.execute( [[ "D:\Utilities\toast\toast64.exe" --app-id "Aardwolf MUD" --title "Quest time!" --message "It's time to do another quest!" --icon "D:\Utilities\toast\aardwolf.png" ]])
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I forgot the [[]] around it will make it a string, so you don't have to worry about the quotes.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And it that errors out, try doubling up the \ again because I may have been wrong with that.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: now, is there a way to do it without it opening a cmd window?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: or is that what utils.shellexecute is for
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think that's what the utils.shellexecute is for.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It doesn't open up a window for me, at the very least.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: is there a way I can test the lua command on the command line, and be able to get some feedback as to why it is not working
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: \\\Lua commands. Or Ctrl+I to open up the immediate window.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: \\\ works if you have that set as your scripting prefix.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: utils.shellexecute( [[ D:\\Utilities\\toast\\toast64.exe ]], [[ --app-id "Aardwolf MUD" --title "Quest time!" --message "It's time to do another quest!" --icon "D:\\Utilities\\toast\\aardwolf.png" ]], GetInfo(68), "open", 0 )
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: this does not error
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but it also does not work
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the previous version with os.execute worked, but it opens a cmd window
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: there we go!
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: utils.shellexecute( "D:\\Utilities\\toast\\toast64.exe", [[ --app-id "Aardwolf MUD" --title "Quest time!" --message "It's time to do another quest!" --icon "D:\\Utilities\toast\aardwolf.png" ]], GetInfo(68), "open", 0 )
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: now let's check it works in a trigger
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: why does it work in the immediate window but not in a trigger
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: here's a screenshot, can anyone tell me what is wrong? https://imgur.com/a/XLuWGZs
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: does : need to be escaped?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: is it matching?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it is matching
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: what's the error?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: that exact command works in the immediate window
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:1: invalid escape sequence near '"D:'
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you need to escape the backslashes in the second path probably
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok, with %? or more backslashes
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: looks like more blackslashes
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nope, that did not work
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: what's the error now?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: same error
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: haven't played with that util before danj, but your code doesn't look like the samples on the mushclient site
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it >might< matter, unsure that it does
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I do not think you need to escape the backslashes.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But make life easier... change \\ to / instead.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, D:/Utilities/toast/toast64.exe
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i'm curious if the [[ ]] are needed/wanted/breaking things
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (Sorry I dipped for a minute, staff meeting with the medical director)
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The [[ ]] says "Everything in here is a string, no need to escape quotes and whatnot."
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: this works
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: utils.shellexecute( "D:/Utilities/toast/toast64.exe", '--app-id "Aardwolf MUD" --title "Quest time!" --message "Time to do another quest!" --icon "D:/Utilities/toast/aardwolf.png"', GetInfo(68), "open", 0 )
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: nice
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley beams with pride.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: but you didn't control your vars, now we don't know if it was crowley's suggestion or mine :P
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, he made the change from \\ to /, so there's that.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: and also took out the [[ ]] for ' '
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah I think it was the slashes
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: at least in what was pasted
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Cheesy Anssett.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i guess we'll just have to share credit *grin
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: anyway it's working now, all's well that ends well
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: thank you all for your help
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: He also removed "It's".
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: prob had to, to make the string change work
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yes that
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ugh, I gotta share credit with Anssett... yuck! :p
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: haha
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: anyway, time to actually go on a quest
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: just wait, i'll misread a helpfile again soon and you'll be pointing and cackling
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: such slack mond
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: SEE
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: By the way: print("Testing" .. [[ --app-id "Aardwolf MUD" --message "It's time to do another quest!" ]]) --> prints perfectly fine.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett nudges (Aleister) Crowley.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: well, I'm gonna leave it alone now it is working
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, don't touch what's not broken.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Totally get it.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Anyway, peace! I gotta go pick up kids and stuff.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the toast utility is from https://github.com/go-toast/toast if anybody wants to use it
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (Also, glad to see you back around, Danj).
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I looked at trying to do it natively with lua ffi but it just looked awful, so I'm using this third party utility instead
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I just send things to Discord. I even have a writeup for sending it to Telegram on my github.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I will eventually write up the instructions for Discord, though.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (Better than what Hadar has, anyway).
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: anyway, on that note it's time for me to head off to bed
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: how do i fix a window behind other window...isnt there a z-order or something?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: _my_ miniwindows all have z order controls
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but any miniwindow may register itself with my z order handler https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Miniwindow-Z-Order-Monitor
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: and theme support and good scrolling and proper resizing, etc etc etc. please use fiendish's mw's thank you plugin writers and goodnight
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish looks at Orphean and goes "Heh."
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I can at least whine about it :P Not that I expect change
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/tablets/android-tablets/lenovo-tab-series/tab-p11-pro-gen-2/len103l0011 is there a reason why I shouldn't buy this tablet
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: mostly looking to watch stuff on, mostly streaming, potentially from the sd card
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: onn by walmart is cheaper.  much less painful when you have to replace it out of pocket after stumbling on it heel-first in a hungover stagger.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: how do I switch on that hp/mana bar etc on mush again?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoesBish Vinatia Tech: not much tech-like honestly, so all i can say is check your file > plugins(in game) and see if something might be off?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoesBish Vinatia Tech: if that is the case, just highlight and click enable
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: the plugin is on, but i dont see the bars - also not hiding in the background.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoesBish Vinatia Tech: did you try re-install?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: i did
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoesBish Vinatia Tech: re-start client without saving changes? like i said idk tech stuff... just trying to go through basics lol
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: no setting with stock snd to have mob search results display in new minwin, right?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: "stock" snd?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: like . . . I haven't changed from what you released
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I will add mini-win search results in the future. Right now, I'm working on changing the SnD window to be more manageable.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metaphoric Hyperbole Tech: wouldnt quick where do that?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Tipro is talking about when you search for mobs. Currently, it displays it in the main window.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: I'm talking the "ms [mob]" suite of functions
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metaphoric Hyperbole Tech: oh i guess not in mini win
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: yeah that will be really handy crowley. For now I"ll just keep suffering . . . jk! Appreciate what you do very much
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Tipro, you might consider updating to the Beta version, by the way. Not sure what version you have, but we're on v5.99 (Beta 5.3) right now.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: mmmm bizzarely I can't quite determine what version I'm on
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: is it possible to add new columns to a an existing SQL database table?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: without re-creating the entire table
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: oh
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: uhh i cant remember if its mutable or not
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: https://www.sqlitetutorial.net/sqlite-alter-table/
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Side note, do not add anything to the mapper database.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That was done before, and when Fiendish did a change in mapper, it screwed things up.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: well yea. i'd add it to your database table and brick the entire snd plugin :)
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's acceptable.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: lol preface everything with unless you're absolutely sure you know what you're doing :D
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I've added columns to it before, and plan on adding a whole new table in the future anyway.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Evine: Even if you know what you're doing, don't mess with the mapper database by altering the tables.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: but what if you could make it more efficient? :D
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i saw in snd code u copied the entire table then re-created it to add new columns
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: stuff like that makes me nervous
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Years ago, WinkleWinkle used to do 'xrt' based on room creation date, which was a column Fiendish had in the mapper database. Fiendish decided it wasn't necessary to keep, deleted the column and broken Winkle's SnD.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gaballon chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: yeah, just keep a back of everything so if you brick stuff by playing around, at least you'll have that :D
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: anyway seems it is possible, thanks Tinypotato
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: or more realistically, create a backup of everything so you save your own skin when a customer tells you that something you did broke everything, and you can easily show that, no, the bug was indeed there before :D
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: sqlite could not remove columns from tables without copying the table until very recently. it's not unreasonable to use the same approach to add columns too.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: copying the table then deleting the old one just makes me a little nervous
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you either trust sqlite to work or you don't :shrug
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's not like you need to add columns more than once
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: im sure sqlite is great, i just dont trust my abilities with it
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xicohtencatl Tech: Is there a way to delete an exit from my mapper? Not a cexit--just a normal exit. My mapper seems to think there's a down exit 2s of recall. I've locked the exit at 300, which does fix the issues it causes, but if possible, I'd like to get rid of it completely.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Right click the offending room and delete the exit from there
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: right click on the room in the mapper window
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xicohtencatl Tech: Ooh, awesome. Thanks for the info! Sorry if this was in the mapper help, but I couldn't find it when I looked.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I really should change the exits delete command to just delete all exits
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: with a brain as big as yours, i bet a lot of questions are simple
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: can anyone describe with simple words, what advantage (if any) Wolfram Mathematica's approach provides versus others?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: The big innovation was the workbook but that is no longer limited to just mathematica. Matlab, Octave have largely caught up there.  And Jupyter has extended the concept even further.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: So you kind of got me there Mush. 
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Matlab is largely feature equivalent and, in my experience (sample count: 1 so ymmw), is more used in academic settings
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: matlab is designed for vector math, mathematica is designed for solving equations
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: there has been convergence though over the years
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: imo anyway
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what can cause that my numpad sometims stops working? especially after switching several times between Wine/Linux and VM with Win 10/7
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: basically 4/5/6/7 act now as arrow keys
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: numlock?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Game->Configure->Keypad?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mush restart helps, pressing num lock does not seem to work  
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: numpad + and - work as expected, just those 0-9 + . does not
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: is the enable numpad keys checkbox enabled in Game->Configure->Keypad?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Has anyone used ColoursToStyles with input that is both multiple lines and multiple colors?  I'm seeing some weirdness where changing color mid-line messes up the color for the part of the line just prior to the color change.  I'm wondering if my expectations for that function are just wrong and if I have bad assumptions about the behavior.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metaphoric Hyperbole Tech: @w for color bleed?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metaphoric Hyperbole Tech: or i prolly dont know what your talking about safe to ignore me :)
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: No.  Here, let me give a short example you can run on the command line to show how I expect it *should* work:  \\\require "tprint" tprint(ColoursToStyles("@GThis is green\nThis should still be green\n@RThis should be red", nil, nil, true, true) or {})
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That shows that the styles are coming back with the expected colors for each block.  So far so good.  The next example changes the color in the second line and that causes the stuff prior to it on the second line to switch to off white for some reason.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Here is the example that isn't doing what I expect:  \\\require "tprint" tprint(ColoursToStyles("@GThis is green\nThis should still be green\n@RThis should be red", nil, nil, true, true) or {})
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: need dofile aard_colors.lua or whatever else that doesn't work
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: oh, thanks Athlau.  I think I had that included in my main mush script file.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: i mean your example doesn't run, prolly do affect on the behaviour you're explaining
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: s/do/no/
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Durel: Try doing Simulate(ColoursToANSI(...)) instead.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: maybe saying something incredibly wrong will summon Fiendish:  "You should be writing all your plugins in VBScript, Lua is terrible."
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Oh whoops.  The second example I copied was the same as the first I think.  This was what I meant to copy for the second example:  \\\require "tprint" tprint(ColoursToStyles("@GThis is green\nThis should still be green@R\nThis should be red", nil, nil, true, true) or {})
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: This works as expected: \\\Simulate(ColoursToANSI("This is green\nThis should still be green\nThis should be red.\n"))
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: This works as expected: \\\Simulate(ColoursToANSI("@GThis is green\nThis should still be green@R\nThis should be red.\n"))
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's right.  It's the ColoursToStyles() function that is giving weird behavior
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In general practice, Simulate is going to be the better option overall, I've learned/heard.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: i usually just AnsiNote(ColoursToANSI(...
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: cause don't want other plugins to mess with my output :P
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ok, thanks Crowley.  Here is a better way to see the examples.  This is the one that works because I don't change colors mid-line:   \\\Simulate(tprint(ColoursToStyles("@GThis is green\nThis should still be green\n@RThis should be red", nil, nil, true, true) or {}))
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: And here is the one that fails just by moving the @R character to the end of the 2nd line:  \\\Simulate(tprint(ColoursToStyles("@GThis is green\nThis should still be green@R\nThis should be red", nil, nil, true, true) or {}))
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I guess I'm just not seeing what the problem is, really. The @R being placed before the newline correctly changes the color, at the end of the line. It'd be like color bleed in notes.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: But in the ColoursToStyles function the 2nd example has the first line green (as expected), the 2nd line off-white for some reason instead of green, and the 3rd line is red (as expected).  
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Adding "@R" to the end of a line shouldn't turn all of the line prior to that color change off-white
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Every example you've given has produced the table print, but no actual output.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But when I did this, it performed as expected: \\\local styleRun = ColoursToStyles("This is green\nThis should still be green\nThis should be red") for i,v in pairs(styleRun) do ColourTell (RGBColourToName (v.textcolour), "",  v.text) end
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But when I did this, it performed as expected: \\\local styleRun = ColoursToStyles("@GThis is green\nThis should still be green@R\nThis should be red") for i,v in pairs(styleRun) do ColourTell (RGBColourToName (v.textcolour), "",  v.text) end
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong...
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Were you able to see the tables output by tprint though?  In the "bad" example, the second line has color of decimal 13421781 which is hex 0xCCCCD5, an off-white
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I did not get that at all.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh wait... I did get 12632256, hmm.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: 12632256 changes to Silver.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's the hex color code 0xC0C0C0, which is yeah, silver :p
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, NOW I see what you are getting at. Somehow I missed that the first time it happened.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: if you move the @R from the end of the 2nd line to the beginning of the 3rd line, you should see the second line switch to green
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Even weirder is the difference between the two - you have an off-white, I have silver.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It might be just a default color in mush.  If we have different versions, your off-white is probably 0xC0C0C0 and mine is 0xCCCCD5 which is very close, just a slightly different shade
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: By the way, where you are you getting the "nil, nil, true, true" parameters from? ColoursToStyles, as far as I know, only takes the 'text' parameter.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Here is the prototype for the function: function ColoursToStyles (input, default_foreground_color, background_color, multiline, dollarC_resets)
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm using the default foreground and background colors (set to nil), and turn multi-line support on, and use the default  behavior for channel default colors
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ah, yeah, okay.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Interestingly, if you make the first 'true' to 'false', it displays it on one line for the green, and prints it correctly.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As in, printing it still gives the line breaks.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, perhaps the issue is with the multiline parameter.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's my suspicion.  Ok, thanks for looking at it.  I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something completely silly :p
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, changing the multiline parameter is the only thing that "corrects" the behavior.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel nods at (Aleister) Crowley.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The ColoursToANSI reports properly, though: [1;32mThis is green\nThis should still be green[1;31m\nThis should be red
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG it's Madrox Tech: anyone who knows how to actually work mushclient can help me on how to import a db file, I just want the maps but there is no clear obvious thing to do anywhere.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: put the db file in the directory that already has one.  while mush isnt running, of course.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG it's Madrox Tech: how to avoid getting all of someone elses triggers and aliases?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Once Tech: so the chat screen on my client stopped working? how can i make it re appear?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: triggers and aliases arent in there, but cexits and room notes are
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: Aardwolf.db in the main directory is the mapper database. Aardwolf.mcl (in the world folder) has aliases/triggers/etc
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Once Tech: ok i am real tech not smart where do i find it?
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Does anyone know how to make mobdeaths show in reverse order so I don't have to scroll up through the whole list to get to the top?
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: hmm.. might be a good idea to display the output of mobdeaths to a miniwindow -- with asc or desc as options
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: is there a way to detect when the combat ended?
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can check status
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: this would tell me my current state, but I want to get info when when I'm no longer in combat (not using timers, to be used for trigger)
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need to detect that mob was killed or fleed
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: or when you died I assume
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: like: Rex_DeathMessage_Victim = rex.new(Rx_DeathMessages) ,    s,e,match = Rex_DeathMessage_Victim:match(line_to_examine),    if match and match.Victim then Note("Death: " .. match.Victim)
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need to collect all possible death messages like "<mob_name> howls as <its/his/her> last spark of life is drained!!" or "<mob_name> is slain by a final deadly slash!!"
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however - as you get GMCP data all the time, it is just enough to wait till your status gets updated
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for example plugin Aardwolf_Health_Bars displays Enemy line while you're fighting
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or you could just process prompt line
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: does anyone know how to use doAsyncRemoteRequest from async.lua? I have a problem where if I am sending a JSON payload as json.encode(mytable), I am able to get back the responseContent as json.decode(responseContent), but if I am sending a table as the body with headers and the payload in body.source, the responseContent seems to just be '1'
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: even though I am expecting a JSON payload to decode
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: does anyone happen to know why doAsyncRemoteRequest from async.lua isn't giving me a JSON response if I make my request with headers?
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: quiet here today
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: dunno, but do you have Accept: application/json
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: as one of your headers
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: yah, I do :(
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: you could try one of the alternative json types listed here: https://www.dofactory.com/forum/1755/what-is-the-best-mime-type-for-json-content
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: maybe your target server sucks and doesn't have the proper type configured
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: hmmm, I am able to get a response back if I don't send any headers though, and just directly `json.encode(<lua table>)`
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: how curious
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: can you have delayed 'if' statement inside trigger?
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: beside DoAfterSpecial...
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Zensch: Yes
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: require "wait"; DoSomeStuff(); wait.make(function() wait.time(5); if condition then DoConditionalStuff() end; end)
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: The argument to wait.time is the number of seconds to delay, BTW.
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: hmm, I'm not sure how i can encode it
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Whatcha trying to do?
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: I want to cast invis/hide (racial for sprite) after fight
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: i have trigger to check if i get any experienc - and it works
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: but when aoe with 20+ mobs there are 20 tries to cast it during fight
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: i have check for char.status, but when you get exp you are still in the fight
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Ah. IMO the best way to do that would be to make a plugin that tracks char.status.state. whenever it changes (which you can check in OnPluginBroadcast), if it was in combat and now isn't, then send invis/sneak.
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: https://github.com/udequina/aardwolf-plugins/blob/main/loqui/Nok3_Combat_End.xml
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: but it did not worked, I have added simulate ('my msg') after combat...
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is a difference how you define combat end and how plugin defines it
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you treat a series of combats as single combat
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: If you use that, all you should have to do is to make a trigger to match {/combat} and have that trigger send invis/sneak.
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: yeah, it did not worked... not sure why... I have reinstalled it and now it shows end of combat
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Or yeah, whatever that tag is
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Truthless Areia rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: in your case: CombatStart should jsut modify  inCombat = true,   while CombatEnd should just set probablyNotInCombat = true, wait 0.3 seconds and if still not in combat then set inCombat = false
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that wait 0.3 should be done as timer - so you have non-blocking wait
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: anyone know what plugin might have a "cpr" command?
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: i think S&D has it
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I just disabled that exact plugin and the command still works for me.
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: i think its Hadar's qpstracker plugin
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: ahh... that has to be it. the alias failed.
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: now to figure out the help file for that plugin. lol
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: if using his plugin manager, had help
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: if you mean find it, its "qpstrack help"
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: or like Bronnie said, "had help" will bringup the helpfiles for all his plugins you have installed
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: there we go, thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: i had made my own cpr command not knowing about haddar's.  was shocked to see the alias worked after I deleted it.
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: if you have the room number do mapper where roomid from aylor, it'll give you the speedwalk to the room which should do as an alternative
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: mis
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: wish MUSHclient can use newer dialects of JS
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: or maybe I just port all my scripts to Lua
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faithful Ruhamah pouts. 
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fidenix Tech: Is there a way to fix my mapper so it knows certain areas?  When I try to use it to go to Goblin Fortress for example it can't find a path to the starting room
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: go to first room and type xset mark
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: I recommend running to `runto <>` for each area once so that your mapper can learn at leats the inefficient speedwalk
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fidenix Tech: I've done so already, same room number in the error and all.  That's why I was confused
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If it cannot find a path to a room, it's because you do not have a path that leads there from where you are. If you are starting from recall, you can do 'speedwalks fortress' and manually walk the path found there. It should generate the map for you, so next time you want to run to the area, it should work.
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fidenix Tech: Appreciate it Crowley, I'll give that a shot and see if it sorts it
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: in mushclient, is there a way to search all your aliases/triggers for a specific keyword?
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could open mcl file, if you mean mush (not plugin) aliases / triggers
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: You mean the keyword is in the action of your alias/trigger?
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I wrote an alias for charging as knight (ch *) that saves the direction I charged in to a variable called charge_dir
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I have no idea why, and must have forgotten my intent when writing it
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: there is the find/find next buttons in the respective list windows
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: so I'm trying to scour my aliases/triggers for charge_dir to see where it's used again
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I think you'll have to go through the world-file
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: well, the "find" button shows that variable never reoccurs again
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: so I have nfi why I added it
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: maybe I was sleep deprived
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: you could also use the debug command to list all your alises/whatnot... but I don't remember the command itself.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Get VSCode, open the folder in it, use the global search function for charge_dir
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: is there a way to do "overloading" in mushclient? i.e. having an alias for a command that's the same as that command but it does a bunch of other stuff as well?
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: e.g. say every time I typed "spellup" I wanted mushclient to do something else as well as sending "spellup" to the mud, is that a thing that's possible?
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can, yes.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But depending on what you want to do, you can stack commands with MUDside alias, too.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: When you use Send() in a script, or if you send the commands to "World", it bypasses the command interpreter and sends it just as if it were from a non-aliased client.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, alias of spellup can send "spellup" to the world, or you can do Send("spellup"). There isn't recursion here.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nice
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: next question, are temporary triggers a thing? like, when I type spellup, I want to have a couple triggers active, then when they go off I want them to turn themselves off or delete themselves, whichever is better
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Bear in mind that when you send to "Execute" or use "Execute()", it'll run it as you typed it on the command line.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can do that through scripting. There's EnableTrigger("trigger name", <true/false>), or EnableTriggerGroup("groupname", <true/false>)
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nice
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You also do not need the 'true' argument. EnableTrigger("name") assumes true.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Side note, in the Trigger GUI, "name" is "label". In the xml, it's "name".
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: good to know
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh another question, are variables global in MUSHclient by default? like, if I set a variable in my alias, will it still have that value in my triggers, and can they change it and then other triggers can see that changed value?
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Variables are global to the locality.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the what
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Meaning, MUSHclient variables are global to anything created in the MUSHclient itself.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But plugin variables are only global to the same plugin.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you want to call plugin variables, you can do 'GetPluginVariable' (provided it's not a scripting variable). You have to use SetVariable to store it to the plugin's state file so you can access it with GetPluginVariable.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But as far as I know, plugins cannot access variables created in MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: MUSHclient knows how much mana I have (it has a bar and miniwindows and stuff that displays it), is there a way I can access that value?
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: yes. via gmcp
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, that's all from gmcp values.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I actually don't really know much about GMCP
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: require 'gmcphelper', then you can call gmcp("char.vitals.mana"), etc.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nice, that'll do
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hold on, I'll fetch the link.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: https://aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP#aardmodules_char -- That'll tell you the structure of each module.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ooh, sweet, thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish, not sure if Durel reached out to you, but there's an odd bug with ColoursToStyles. If you do: \\\tprint(ColoursToStyles("@GThis line should be green\nThis line should also be green@R\nThis line should be red", nil, nil, true, true)), it changes the color for the second line to another color. But put the @R AFTER the \n, it works. Additionally, if you change 'multiline' parameter from 'true' to 'false', it works correctly in both cases.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Good, glad he reached out to you, then.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: he proposed a fix, but there are other problems with the function so I'm just going to rewrite it
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: can someone help me with how I managed to use a cexit that I level locked till 120?
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: right click the room effected by it on the non-ascii map. you'll get options to edit stuff there.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: yep, so apparently my mapper runto underdark utilizes clan recall and using a clan exit through uprising. Go to clan recall, then run nun and run uw. However, I level locked the clan recall for nun, so unless I mis-understood how lockexit works, shouldn't the mapper avoid that nun line?
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hey does aard have a way to report spam tells?
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What do you mean, report spam tells?
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nm someone said to just write a note to imm on personal
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: like literal spam, literal unsolicited commercial email
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you have the latest MUSHclient package, you can also mute them.
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but a tell
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: chats mute <player> -- it'll not ignore them, but prevent you from seeing their messages in commlog.
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, geez.
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'd put them on ignore and note the Imms for sure.
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: if you use the chats mute how do you remove someone from it??
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: unmute
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: thanks fiend
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: is there a plugin that reports when double starts? If so where can I find it?
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: so once Signal shuts off SMS between non-app users, i'm basically going to have to chastise idiot relatives for being the weak link? or expecting me to switch text apps to message them? both sound fun
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: is ther eanyway to put the roomid# at top of map window? like name is in the banner/title, could current room# be just top left or something? was thinking stat window, but figured same plugin made more sense :)
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: nm already there thanks Kor!
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: is there a plugin to manage boards and notes?
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: with mapper... if the room you need to get to in Bazaar is Jewels and timepieces. It says it can't find a path. But you can run to shark lounge without a problem and jewels is just dsw from this room. Why can't it calculate the direction to jewels and timepieces? any ideas?
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: possibly you need to open a door check the path
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: solved my problem. Just saved a custom exit from shark lounge to go down.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: just found it a bit strange
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: maybe because it's a hidden exit perhaps.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: I don't remember there being a problem there let me check once I'm out of partroxshit
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: when I look at my run to that room there is an open s on the path
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: where does it break down for you?
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: the exit from the shark lounge is down but not a visible exit it's not closed or anything
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: no cexit 
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: the door south from the room corridor of lies is a nopass door so you might need to open it, could be that if it wasnt' set there you might have accidently fumbled it open and then the sw didn't complete right maybe 
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: mapper was unable to calculate a path to jewels and time pieces until I created a custom exit heading down from shark lounge.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: odd mine went there no cexit I see
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: but if it works :)
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: so strange. Thanks for having a look for me.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: try removing it and going manually then testing it again try echocommand to see what it might be trying to do
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: you can also try mapper where 34581
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: oh had a though are you using night vision?
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Whee. Having fun adding hover-menus to AardCentral's page. Doing direct links, and then hover menus will show what they have to offer from their page.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok, but what about accessibility?
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hover menus may look nice, but what about people who use screen readers?
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's a good point. Not sure how hover links work with screen readers (unless you mouse over them), but at the very least, you can click the link of the contributor to access their repositories directly and see what they have.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: what is AardCentral?
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Trying to minimize space while giving the information.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: If you have the aria tags set correctly screenreaders handle hover links/menus etc just fine
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: AardCentral is a central location for known repositories for Aardwolf from player contributors.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: if you want to test with screen readers there's a free one at https://www.nvaccess.org/download/
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's a work in progress. Gaballon: https://aardcentral.github.io
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: when you say repositories do you mean like github?
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Got a work meeting to go to, so I'll be back later.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Tech Bloke Danj.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nice
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Instead of having people say, "Oh, who has scripts?" they can be directed to the page itself and see who are the known contributors. It won't be just github, though, if anyone has outside pages, etc.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Anyway, meeting time, back in a bit.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: also please just throw some bootstrap at that site, that misaligned table layout hurts my eyes :p
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly at Tech Bloke Danj.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Like I said, a work in progress right now. The misaligned table will be fixed, soon enough. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But trying to do that at work while trying to get patients approved...
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it looks wonky for me
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, a recent update on something decided it was going to break it.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: https://imgur.com/a/wFjXBi1
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: can't recommend enough how easy it is to create beautiful pages using bootstrap
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Tech Bloke Danj.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'll look into it, Danj. Thanks!
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Gaballon.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That was a result of making a change that decided it would break it at the moment.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: ok wasnt sure if it was some weird firefox thing
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: anyone have 'personal cyber insurance' policy?
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I would assume that would require full strength antivirus and MFA enabled on all accounts that support it
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: because our commercial cyber insurance sure does
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: at my work
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: lol yeah :) i was trying to pay usaa bill and noticed new ooption, funny how lastpass just brought on new lines of business yet refuses to pay anything
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: lastpass is bad, ditch them,
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: they had a breach last year and now are refusing to let people cancel
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: we got out before they started clamping down on cancellations but it's now really hard to cancel apparently
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: if you upgrde to premium account, they let folks 'auto-change' all the passwords the fox already let out of the henhouse. fool me once, twice etc
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Danj, Gaballon: Does it look marginally better now? :p
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: though there's some work to be done on the hover thing
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: only the first hover works for me?
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, yes. But at least it's not "Convenience     Scripts" :p
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i liked the ligher theme personally :)
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, I think I didn't copy over the over for the second one. But they will all have hovers in time.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I prefer dark theme myself
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Light theme sucks! Maybe I'll go with a darker shade of gray instead of all black.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah grey is good
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: To be fair, visually, dark themes are better for sighted people, I think.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If I'm catering to both VI/screen readers and sighted, gray should be a happy medium.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj nods at (Aleister) Crowley.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There, it's dark gray now.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: still liked the first style
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, maybe I'll incorporate theme switching. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: its fine i can deal with grey
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Menpehtyre Tech: I'm using mushclient on macos, and when I start playing, within a few minutes I get a bast_spellup Run-time error that tells me, among other things, "database is locked," after which the plugin stops working. Is this something other foilks have encountered...and part 2, what's the fix that I'm too stupid to have figured out?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: huh. when did I break the helpfile capture window?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: well sometime after r2252
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: working fine here
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: weird. some code I'm working on that I didn't think should affect it at all has apparently affected it
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meanwhile, Sammael Tech: Tale as old as time
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Still good in r2255
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: so it's recent at least
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yeah, I found when. I just don't know why yet
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh, I fixed it
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ceridwen Tech: Alison here, logged in on a separate client folder because my main one seems broken somehow.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ceridwen Tech: It gives me the error message "Unexpected end of client while waiting for <muclient> (cannot load)
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ceridwen Tech: and then "unexpected file format" after
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ceridwen Tech: I was in the middle of doing a quest when it abruptly crashed on me, and then when I tried reopening it, I got that error.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ceridwen Tech: Any ideas how to fix it?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Hmm I restored from backup, it seems to work now.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Let's hope nothing horrible happened.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I've got some mushclient questions if any knowledgeable people like Crowley or Fiendish are around?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: Mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: (by Fiendish and folk)
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you're in luck. I just got on
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: not sure if that is luck...or bad luck
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: (.*?) = any... what is the equivelant for "single word"? was %w in zmud iirc
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: definitely some kind of luck
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: \w in regex syntax I believe
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: \w!
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: tx
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: see I can help!
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: \w+
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj proves his cool is well past its sell-by date by saying 'YO!' to 1337 H4x0r Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: \d works for numbers btw
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: so question 1) is there a tutorial on miniwindows somewhere? like all the way from baby's first miniwindow, to putting "Hello World" on it, through to drawing graphics and text on it and redrawing on resize and handling click events and whatnot?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Kerith: that really depends on what you mean by "word"
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: without the + you only get 1 letter
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: like i want to capture "^kerith" but not "^stuff kerith"
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: many languages have a concept of "word characters" i.e. characters that show up in words, but they're not universally correct in the assessment
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: without the + you only get 1 letter
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: oops
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Miniwindow-Basics
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: question 2) what development environment do people use for writing mushclient plugins? like is there a good visual studio code extension, for example?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Danj: It's xml.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But no plugins for Mushclient that I'm aware of.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Danj: use my DIY easy miniwindows module
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it makes miniwindows muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch easier
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: do not do your own resizing code
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I have done it for you
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: awesome
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: because yeah I was not looking forward to that
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: let me rephrase 
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: although, what if I've drawn a graphic which will need to be redrawn at the new scale on resize?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: start with my module. I'm sure you'll want to do something that is super weird and won't be easy with my module and then we can fix that
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: my module includes a draw on resize callback hook
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I looked through Crowley's aardcentral and nobody in there has thought of the idea I had, as far as I can tell
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Easy-DIY-Miniwindows
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: my module has both do_while_resizing and do_after_resizing 
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: in case what you need to do is too expensive to do live
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: there will be lines and polygons involved, I understand miniwindows are buffered so there's no flicker when they're refreshed/redrawn?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and to #2 question. Just use any texteditor you prefer. I use notepad++ as it's easiest for win and has enough for my small coding needs for mush
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Danj: I use vscode and just set it to Lua
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: someone...wait...who was it. damn it was just recently...
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah, I thought that might be the case, just wondered if anybody had gone the nine yards to create a whole extension
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: which one of you made the language spec file for mushclient?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: was it Nohh, because I saw a vscode thing in their github
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: one of these yahoos just recently made a language server spec for the mushclient lua api
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: and it's also very helpful
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: that sounds useful
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: let me see if I can find who gave it to me
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh it was orphean
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/aardorphean/mushclient-client-declarations
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it works with the most popular lua language server plugin for vscode
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok, great
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: question #3: is there a way for mushclient to send a command to the mud and capture the output into a variable, or do we still have to do it all with triggers that we enable at the start and disable at the end?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes, I have a module for that too
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ooh
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I was expecting that one to be a "no" based on what I've seen in others' code
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but be warned that if your command doesn't have some kind of tags around it from the game it relies on using echo to simulate tags, which necessarily breaks the atomicity
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: what fiendish is basically saying is.. NO. he just pretends it's possible
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: no documentation available but untagged_output and tagged_output functions here https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/lua/wrapped_captures.lua#L188-L218
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I mean, he's obviously worked on the problem longer than I have, I'll take what I can get to make doing what I want easier
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I use it in several plugins
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yeah, it's easier for sure. But it still uses those triggers..
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: danj: this plugin is basically exactly what you're talking about https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/worlds/plugins/aard_VI_command_output.xml  but it writes the output to the mushclient notepad instead of leaving it in a variable
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyone who wants to help me by writing documentation for the wrapped captures module is free to do so and will be rewarded handsomely with a byline
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: does this involve learning code like markup or markdown? (obviously im qualified for each by not knowing the name) ?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: just text
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: Fiendish - I sent you a tell to mention which command it is I want to capture the output of
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I saw. I don't know the answer
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm looking in helpfiles
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: actually...
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the train command doesn't have tags per se, but it does have the lines "Your stats and amount trained are:" and "You have \d+ practice sessions available." which is as good as
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: mm, ok
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but in terms of your wrapped captures module it'd still be a "manual tags" one, though, right?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: only if you don't want to use those lines
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can always force your own manual tags with: echo {train};train;echo {/train}
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you don't need to
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: my module will do the necessary echoing and will do it better than you can
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at 1337 H4x0r Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faithful Ruhamah blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faithful Ruhamah falls on her knees and worships 1337 H4x0r Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: to be fair I had independently suspected that using echo for fake tags would be the way that it would need to be done before seeing this code
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but I think it doesn't matter because you can use anything as tags as long as it delimits the output
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I haven't dug through the code to see if I can figure out how to work it yet, but it's on my list of things to do.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: also check out help echocommands, it's *super* useful for delimiting command output
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: my module does a lot of complicated fancy stuff with the tags to make sure that they don't stay active for too long and to make sure that you can issue the same command many times without them stepping on each other
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I mean looking at fiendish's code, just from the variable names I feel like I have a good sense of what it expects
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yeah, I tried to make the public interface functions friendly even if I didn't document them
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ok my mushidiotism is winning... i've tried all variations of \w \.w \%w \%.w ... what am i missing? ^(.%w) tells :(:(
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: are you looking for lua patterns or regex?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: regex 
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: kerith: oh, someone said it was (\w+)
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: % is for lua patterns
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: \w is just one character
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah \w is regex
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: so how do i get the "word like Kerith tells?  instead of just k?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the + means more than one
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: well, the + means 1 or more
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: \w is just a letter
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: \w+ is some letters
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: danj: \\\require "tprint" require "wrapped_captures" function my_callback(lines, startline, lastline) print(startline) tprint(lines) print(lastline) end Capture.tagged_output("train", "Your stats and amount trained are:", "You have \\d+ practice sessions available\\.", true, false, false, false, my_callback, false)
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's not entirely correct, Fiendish. \w is not just "letters". It also includes "numbers", which is stupid. In order for it to be just letters, has to be [A-Za-z]+.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yeah, well, like I said the concept of "word characters" is not universally correct
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at 1337 H4x0r Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ^(\w+) tells you < got it thank you!
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: wow, I didn't realize that \w includes numbers, I need to fix.... a lot of triggers/aliases...
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: if you just want letters I think there's a different one for that
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: check out regex101.com
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Danj: As I just said, it's literally [A-Za-z]+.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The most ridiculous thing, honestly.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: you'd think there'd be a single-character designation for letters only
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: like there is for digits
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Like, I don't know, \w, since, you know, \a is alphanumeric? :p
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh, this DIY miniwindows documentation is excellent
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj thanks 1337 H4x0r Fiendish heartily.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: damn, the chord mode of WindowCircleOp doesn't do what I thought
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: nick has documentation on all those functions
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah I'm reading it
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://mushclient.com/mushclient/mw_shapes.htm#WindowCircleOp
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh that's much nicer than the link I had
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: screenshots, handy
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yeah, nick has both real documentation and api documentation separate
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: My AardClock was updated to use the DIY windows, and includes drawing Circles in the window.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: One day, I may make it digital, too.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Thank you Crowley. All other plugin authors: be like Crowley. 
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Wait, what?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah I don't want to draw an actual circle, but I DO want to get coordinates of points on a notional circle, given an angle and radius
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Now make SND use DIY miniwindows too :P
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Working on it, Orphean. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: oh that is the best news
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Danj: I had to find coordinates to place the numbers correctly, and have the hands work properly. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I mean I can do the math with cos and sin and all that crap if I have to
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I was just hoping there'd be some nifty function that can do it for me
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh, yeah I see that's what your code does, Crowley
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: alright cool. everything I want to do seems to be a) possible and b) easier than expected
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: whether the result will actually be useful, I'm not actually sure
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but it doesn't seem like anyone else has come up with the same idea
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Now I'm curious what your idea is.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I don't mind telling you if you promise not to steal it :p
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley quickly steals the idea. "Hey guys, new plugin available. Pick it up at: https://www.istoletheideafromDanj.com"
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj rolls on the floor laughing at (Aleister) Crowley's antics!
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: is mushclient regex PCRE? asking because I see a thing labelled "atomic non-capturing group" on regex101.com which is a thing I might want to use
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: orphean you make an autobuild action for your language server file yet?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: soon fiendish, other things got in the way. i'll aim for today/tomorrow
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: cool. danj was just asking about tools earlier, so it reminded me
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: how did i blow things up? :( malformed number near '1..'
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: need more context
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Icecool: I once watched Hackers 3 times in a row back to back to back
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj hacks the Gibson
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: HACK THE PLANET
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I've actually been doing some hacking in recent years, hardware hacking cable modems
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: one of the things I learned is that in consumer electronics UPnP is one of the most unstable piece of shit services I have ever seen
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Fiendish, https://github.com/aardorphean/mushclient-client-declarations/actions/runs/4246243491   It's not a real 'github action' but its a reusable workflow you can just plop into the build. If you need a real action let me know.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Helps if I link the right thing: https://github.com/aardorphean/mushclient-client-declarations/blob/main/.github/workflows/fetch_mushclient_definitions.yml
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, that was a fun project. Someone whined about 'friend ago' not being sorted by length of time, so I wrote a plugin to sort by length of time. Now that someone is (maybe?) going to test it, but if anyone wants to sort your flist on 'friend ago' by the time they were last on, I can link the plugin, too.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: are you using wrapped captures with tags "You are friends with:" and "'Friend wannabe' will show people who want to be your friend." ?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: could use the blank line at the end as a tag too
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I am not. I just enable trigger group with 'friend ago', and trigger on the blank line. I /could/ probably integrate the wrapped captures to it, though.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith coughs loudly.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I actually like it, now that I wrote it. It's nice to see which friends have been longest away.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: cough, i tested it, it works :P
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: maybe an option for reversing the sort order tho...*srun*
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm gonna reverse YOUR sort order.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I should make one change to it, though. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Two changes.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Weird that I cannot seem to get the reverse to work.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: make func to reverse the # maybe? i'll shut up now :)
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley rolls his eyes at Kerith.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: One of my favorite aspects is that it keeps the numbering, too... ;)
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I give up trying to reverse this. It seems that it just does not want to reverse the table, no matter what. :(
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, I fixed it. Yay.
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Does hadar's spellup plugin automatically cast cskills on login?
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Or do I have to do that myself
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: you can configure it to recast cskills
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Yeah, but that only procs when the cskill wears off yeah?
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: If I log on and I don't have my cskill up, will it automatically cast it?
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: does it do that with any spells? i didn't know that was a thing it did at all
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: ATM it only recasts when wears off (so if you linkdead out) when you come in you would need to re-cast all your spells
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: anyone install friendago? i can't get -r to work
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I've had issues with friendago as well, I was talking to crowley about debugging stuff
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: 'friend ago' works fine for me, just cant get the reverse
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: oh wait i'm wrong it is reversing, but not the whole list, the offline and online lists respectively
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The online list never reverses. I just reverse the offline.
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Seems the average curse channel crowd ain't as friendly as here...
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok i am on a cp but Snd will not load the list, how to do i get it back?
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Looking over the available GMCP data (https://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP), and it appears skill / spell trained % isn't available, is that accurate?
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: cp ch usually does it for me
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: try cp info or cp check
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: nope
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: reload snd?
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yeah, check out slist
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: were you in a gq when this happened?
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok cp info worked, cp cheeck did not, i suauly use cp check
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: or yeah gq will interfere sometimes
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: also the skillgains tag
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tasty Tipro thanks Sat, Sath's butler heartily.
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: lol i haven't used cp check in like years, always xcp or cp info
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: gotem'!
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gurbuz Tech: who has the addon for pupping
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gurbuz Tech: the one where it shows a list of mobs then scans
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gurbuz Tech: then you attack
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gurbuz Tech: who has the auto consider room entry plugin
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: athlau has a maintained version, finger him
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gurbuz Tech: thank you kindly
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gurbuz Tech: damn :(
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gurbuz Tech: guess I'm all by my self now
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gurbuz Tech: by the way how do I make conw cast a spell instead of making it type kill i type 1 and it types kill instead of cast nova
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: make alias to cast nova like nova, and type "conw nova"
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Anyone know how to backup your mushclient? I don't mean copy the folder entirely, just like, adding a new backup to the automated backups 
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: for backing up just the mapper, you can type 'mapper backup'
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: for backing up other content, that will depend on the script 
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, I'm excited for some clear-cut examples of wrapped_captures. I tried, and think I failed miserably. Was going to use it in 'friend ago', and used: Capture.tagged_output("friend ago", "^You are friends with :", "^[^\d]", true, true, true, true, getStatusFromCapture, false) -- and it just didn't fire (at least, last I checked).
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what's your second tag?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh lol not a number
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but none of the ago lines start with a number. they start with a space
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's supposed to look for the first line without a digit as a starting character, though I should make it a space or digit. It ran into problems with compact mode.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: \s+ might be handy for one or more items of whitespace
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, if you have over 100, it starts with a digit.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: fix your end tag pattern and it will work
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: can you have over 100?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Popularity wish gets you to 120.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyway, it's terminating at the first one
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: because the first one doesn't start with a number
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Trying it from the command line, it's telling me invalid escape sequence near '"^[^' :p
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: fiendish, something doesnt seem to be working with aard layouts and themed miniwins after i updated to latest version
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you're going to have to give me more than "something"
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it doesnt save the window locations or something. cant figure it out
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: its a themed text window. i use aard layout save and aard layout restore and it doesnt move it at all
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: new plugin?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: does the plugin know that it's supposed to save state?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yea it worked perfectly before i updated mush a couple weeks ago
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: the state file for aard layout is correctly storing the locations, but its not moving it
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I don't think I changed anything recently for layouts
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: know the prior version?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i have a backup from december. can i see the version somewhere without opening mush?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: top line in the version file
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: uh...AardwolfPackageChanges.txt I think it's called
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: k, i updated from 2220 to 2252
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: all the normal windows move as expected, just the themed windows that i created
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Crowley you may need to double the slash
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: lua doesn't have rawstrings
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Is untagged_output put on a timer? Or does it send an echo, command, echo? I don't think what I want to accomplish is going to work with tagged output because compact mode unless I disable compact mode for the command, otherwise it never terminates.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh wait, maybe it will work now that I doubled the slash. Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh, I forgot. actually it does activate compact mode
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, I'll do the ^[\\d\\s] as the end tag. That should work.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I don't remember why 
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I guess I can experiment with whether I can remove that step
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: untagged output makes tags for you with echo
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In the callback functions, are there any more parameters that can be pulled beside: lines, startline, endline? I notice that lines is a styles table, so I had to write my function to grab the text from within the tabled values.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: crowley are you writing docs for the wrapped captures module? as that will be extremely helpful when I start development on my idea tomorrow
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I could ask ChatGPT to write the docs for me and see what it comes up with.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: danj: I wrote some
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh, ok, cool
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I also need to brush off my math skills so I can convert polar coordinates to cartesian coordinates
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj is pleased with himself that he remembered that was what having an angle and a radius was called
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: danj: see now https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/development/MUSHclient/lua/wrapped_captures.lua
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: and I actually did get this from chatgpt
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: though I had to fix some errors
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I just fed it to ChatGPT... this is going to be interesting.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: what's a "style line"
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient's native colorized line format is called "style runs:
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: let me see if I can find a doc aboutit
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: this is something that is surprisingly poorly documented given how much stuff nick has written, but look for the word "textcolour" on https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?dialog=IDD_EDIT_TRIGGER
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I mean, this is what it started out with: The given code is a Lua module that provides functions to capture text output from a MUD client. It uses triggers to capture the output and store it in a table for later use. The captured output can be either tagged or untagged, depending on the public interface function that is called.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Crowley: I copypasted the code in and then asked it to document the two functions
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: just for fun I also asked it why I gave each trigger its own sequence number and it got the answer right
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nice!
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj raises an eyebrow at 1337 H4x0r Fiendish's weird actions.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: actually that's not necessarily the best documentation for it
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the problem is that mushclient actually uses differently verbose representations for style tables in different places in the code
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but in a general sense, style runs are representations of text as lua tables where each colorized section is a subtable in the form {textcolour=int, backcolour=int, text=string, length=number, bold=, ...}
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: is there a way to just get the text if you don't care about the colours?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Crowley: to answer your earlier question, the callback gets styles, starttext, endtext currently
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Danj: I have functions for that in aardwolf_colors.lua
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I have a function StripColorsFromStyles that just extracts raw text
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'll have to look at StripColorsFromStyles, hmm.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: err, apparently I named it strip_colours_from_styles
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: good on you fiendish, keeping with the extra u's :P
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I don't always
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I switch back and forth willy nilly all over
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Color-Functions#why-do-you-use-both-the-american-and-british-spellings-of-color
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, sweet. I might be able to work with this now.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I will likely at some point update the callback to include the styles of the start and end lines instead of just the text. I'm not sure why I didn't do that in the first place
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett snickers with 1337 H4x0r Fiendish about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I will not break compatibility though, so the text inputs will still be there
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i do love me a good honest faq
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmm. wait so if my style table has multiple lines, will strip_colours_from_styles give me one big string with newlines, or do I get something iterable, like an array?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: newlines
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I'm so spoiled by PowerShell
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but you, at your discretion, can pass each line in separately and not get newlines, or split the result back into a table of individual lines
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient has string split functions
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I will do that second one
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?lua=utils.split to split on a single character like \n
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: excellent
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/lua/string_split.lua if you want to split on a lua pattern
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: makes it possible to split on pcre patterns, but you have to know how rex and gsub work https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/lua/regex_helpers.lua#L1-L27
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: er, "this also makes"
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so you have options
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I've had a lot of time to work on these kinds of things
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj thanks 1337 H4x0r Fiendish heartily.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the color functions in particular have been extremely useful
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: is fiendish here?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm here now
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what's up
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: your awesome!
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: You see that link I sent you with the reusable workflow?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish wuv A Canadian Wonder. Aww, how coot.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I saw it but haven't used it yet
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Okay just let me know.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i commented out lines 227-229 in aard_layout and that fixed my window problem
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Just making sure you saw the thing since you afk when I sent it
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: dont know why but it did
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: gaballon uh, don't do that
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: its doing something weird
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you're doing something weird
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: thats possible too
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: send me your plugin
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i think the DoAfter is reverting the window to the old location
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that means your plugin is failing to save its location
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but that part of the code has not changed in years
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: ok sec
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: i'm editing a few alises in notpad++ how do I save it as the required .xml ?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: save as test.xml
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: what is the dinv command to figure out the color coded debug messages?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: are you referring to "dinv help notify"?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: you can specify how much info/debug stuff is reported by dinv with that mode
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I have a debug message that includes the colors orange, green, blue... wanted to understand what it means
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: i shared an alias for dinv with a friend and instead of 1 potion, its trying to consume everything.  don't understand what happened.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: and now, my own alias is doing the same thing.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If you say what error message you are getting and what command you are running I might be able to help
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: i'm looking closely at the alises.. hang on
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You can tell dinv to consume multiple items in one command.  Is that what you are doing?  Something like "dinv consume small heal 5" will quaff 5 potions for example
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: yeah, i saw that in the help file
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: it looks like I used an item id number in the wrong spot.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: that would explain it
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: which seems to have fixed the problem. thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: is there a way to automatically create a log file on login for the date you logged in
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Game->Configure->Logging rotates I think
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murderbot Omnivek Tech: anyone know how I can get this message to stop spamming me (other than turning off noexp) Noexp is currently enabled. Threshold is set to 0 exp.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: question I have an older plugin for spellups that hasn't been updated in ages. is there a newer thing out for that. I like having my spells recast when they fall I am using mush
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Try Hadar's spellup (HSP).
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: https://github.com/zzyzzyzzx/Hadar
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Download and install "Plugin Manager", then type "hpm check" and install everything else you want from there.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: ok. if i can find the download part. sometimes when i am there on github i cant figure out how to download the files.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Hadar's spellup is there, but also a bunch of other useful stuff like an hour double predictor
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/zzyzzyzzx/Hadar/master/PluginManager/Hadar_Plugin_Manager.xml
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Click this link, then right click on the page, "save as" -> xml document, in your mushclient folder, worlds -> plugins
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i now love you for this.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Then install it by clicking file -> plugins -> add -> navigating to plugins -> double clicking on Plugin Manager.xml
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Then type hpm check, and it should give you a bunch of clickable buttons to install various plugins, including the spellup one.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: yay that was easy.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i cant click to install anything. not sure what to do about that.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: what does "An error occurred during a connection to www.amazon.com. PR_END_OF_FILE_ERROR" etc... mean? 
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Means your browser couldn't establish a secure connection
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: SSL was invalid for some reason - which it doesn't state.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: is there a way to use dinv search to get only stuff not in containers
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I don't think so
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i guess i can negate every bag in my search :S
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: yeah that's the only way I think ~rloc All The Things
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: hmm and not worn too
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: that possible?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: ~worn doesnt seem to work
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: ugh dinv dont make me hack you
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Durel would accept a patch most likely. If negating worn isn't working then i think you're sol
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: right, breakfast first, then plugin development!
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: I am getting my own little issues. I think I am going to do my own fixing over here.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: of course I cobbled this thing together so yeah. I got this in hand.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: I shall return.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i mean, ive done a bit of dinv hacking for my own stuff already, it takes a bit of time though
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: it wants to deal with bags, its kind of baked into the design :)
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: adding a custom query term probably the way to go
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: thought unequipped might work
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: any mushclient knowledgeable folks here?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: nope
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: need to know how to get text metrics (width and height of a string) of a ThemedBasicWindow
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: WindowTextWidth
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: and height you can get from WindowFontInfo
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: anyone know how I can get error information from stuff I put in the immediate window? trying to test the first part of my script but nothing happens
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nevermind I'm just an idiot that's all
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: forgot to actually CALL my function at the end
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: any ideas how I can index into a table? for example I know I can do for k, v in pairs(t) to iterate through the table, but what if I want to loop through n-1 table entries and be able to access the current table entry and the next table entry during my loop
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: i asked chatgpt your question, with 'in lua' added to front.  it spat out a long answer 
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nevermind figured out a way around it
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: anybody know if there's a way to do opacity/transparency with WindowPolygon fills? like, I want to fill the polygon at say 50% opacity so I can still see what's behind it
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I believe so, but I forget.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh wait, I think that's only on images.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: how does snd choose the order in which to show mobs?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Same order they come on your campaign list, I believe
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seifer Tech: mine display alphabeticly by area, then mob name
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: not sure if i im seeing things or real - the input text bar on my mush seem to be bolded..
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: does using AddAlias during OnPluginInstall not work? or am I just doing it wrong
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: fiendsih around to answer mush qns?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ALLLLLLLLRIGHTY FOLKS
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: can I get a drum roll please?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: rolls a drum down the street.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: after more than 20 years away from the MUD client script development scene, I'm pleased to present... my first ever MUSHclient plugin!
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: https://github.com/danj2k/aardwolf-plugins
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Tech Bloke Danj!!!  Prancin' Garence cheers him on.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: i like that stat visualization
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Danj, care if I add yours to the Aard Central?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: Orc orc orc, Crowley gonna fork.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nope, no forks.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: see now that you did a script ... that means i need to go to my laptop and work on mine, and get away from minecraft for awhile lol
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: is there a way to mapper addnote to a targeted room.  or do i always have to be in said room
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I think you have to be in the room
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, you can just do: 'mapper showroom 12345', and then 'mapper addnote'. But no way to do it remotely otherwise.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: At least, not without opening up the mapper database.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: question.. when gmcp sees INFO, is it able to distinguish if it is a level/death/epicdeath/goal/pk etc?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: Crowley: that would be wonderful, thank you
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: GMCP does not see info.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or rather, INFO messages are not passed through GMCP.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: yea my follow up qns.. then is there a way i can selectively choose what to gag/see. I know ther eis the info command in-game. ideally i wana "see" all by gag accordingly
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: see all info but* gag accordingly
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can use the #gag function to gag certain types of messages.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Can even use regex on it.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh, since you're here, Crowley, do you happen to know if it's possible to use opacity with a WindowPolygon call? I'd like to be able to fill my polygon with 50% opacity, so the gridlines and axes beneath can be seen
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: ok cheers crowley!
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Danj: I answered that earlier. I think only for images, but not WindowCircleOp et al.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh sorry, I missed that
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: pity
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: right, after all that work, I reckon I deserve a drink
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Added to Aard Central. I need to work on it this weekend to get everything set up properly.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I just broke your plugin, Danj.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Too bad Danj is off with a celebratory drink. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, I see why.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yep, easy fix.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: hold on, let me make it more complicated!
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just shot him a tell.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: He didn't account for the * at the end of a stat if you are currently max in it.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: On line 295, change  _, _, current, maximum = string.find(v, "(%d+)%s+(%d+)$") -->  _, _, current, maximum = string.find(v, "(%d+)%s+(%d+)%*?$") -- when you're at max stat (current == maximum), the stat has an * at the end.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: fiendish: i may have figured out the window behaviour
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: good
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what have you learned?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it seems like if u use the mouse to drag a window then save it works good
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: uh
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: but if u use WindowPosition and WindowResize to move it, it doesnt want to save
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: why are you using windowposition and windowresize?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i tested what aard_layout does
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it pulls the location and uses those functions then saves
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I know what my plugin does
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: its not working for me though, so when layout restores then saves, it doesnt save the new window location
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: then it reloads the plugin which moves it back to the previous location
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i tested by using WindowPosition and WindowResize then SaveState and watching the state file
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: does this only happen for your plugins and not mine?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: seems like it. do any of yours use themed miniwins?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: helpfile capture does
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: oh i dont use that one
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i can work around it i think by force updating the miniwin variables in an OnPluginSave function
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yep
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I can probably automate that though...
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: uhh
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but it shouldn't be needed
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: if im the only one having problems with layout restore, maybe its just me
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: look at https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/worlds/plugins/aard_ingame_help_window.xml and compare what I'm doing with what you're doing
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: remind me. is this during layout change or theme change?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: layout change
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: what i see is it correctly moves the window to where the layout says it shpuld be, then a split second later it moves back to old location
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: so i think reloading the plugin moves it back bc the savestate didnt save the new location
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'll see if I can do it without reloading the plugins
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: aww yiss closing issues LIKE A BAWSS
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: side note gaballon, I think you shouldn't need to manually hide/show around disable/enable
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: or at least you don't need to hide around disable
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I guess you might still need to show during enable
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: which I can probably fix
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yea idk why i put hides and shows tbh
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: in a script, is there a way (via gmcp maybe?) that I can detect whether the character is in combat or not?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: char.status.state == 8
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: is that in combat, or not in combat?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: https://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP#aard_char_status
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: 8 is in combat (see https://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP)
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nice, thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: You can! Right click and Add New Tab
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: As many as you want
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: use tabs
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Then you can configure what goes into each tab.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Spronktar blinks, right-clicks..
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: works great, thanks!
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: quest mobs use mobsay, not say, correct?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: lovely.  this should work great then
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: what's that cmd again to check mush version?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: checkversion
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: another silly question
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: full visuals is for vi people?/
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no it's the other way around I think
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: full visuals is for non vi people
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: daamn, brb
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: is there a gmcp for potential/instinct/mastery?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: i think no
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith bursts into tears.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ok tx
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you can check all the gmcp stuff here: https://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ya was just hoping it wasn't updated :p
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: as if
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: can anyone have a look at this and tell me what's wrong with my triggers? they're definitely getting created, they're just... not triggering: https://github.com/danj2k/aardwolf-plugins/blob/main/danj_dmassist.xml
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: question: if you're fighting multiple enemies, does the GMCP char.status.state change in between when you kill one and start on the next one, or not?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: GMCP updates to the next enemy you are aimed at when fighting multiple enemies. You only change status when you are completely out of combat.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: pity
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: is there a way to handle the edge case where you're fighting multiple enemies of the same name?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: what classes have dispel magic, anyway? how do I find that out, the help file doesn't say
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: shwosk dispel magic
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: er, showsk if you spell it right
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nice, thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: apart from dampening field, are there any other spells/skills that do the same as dispel magic?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: negation and cancellation are somewhat related but aren't meant for mobs
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: help showskill, help samespell
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: in my MUSHclient command bar, sometimes when I enter text it goes to the end of the previous line rather than starting a new line, causing an error. Is there any solution for this ?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: what I mean by the previous line is, something I already typed in
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: did you accidentally press the up or down arrow? I believe when you press up arrow it brings up your previous commands
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: it is highlighted, so that normally this doesn't happen, but sometimes it does
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: is there a free alternative to RDP that can handle video better than the Windows RDP?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: what's the debug for snd again?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: xtest debug?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: that works thanks!
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: I have a zip.dll file from who knows where and how old, but somehow it's not in the official MUSHclient package
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: pwar's thing?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Albeathel Tech: Can w
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyone here using the NVDA screen reader?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: sorry for late reply but if still here I am using nva
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Lejaguar: I'm trying to help someone get set up but for some reason control+tab on their computer doesn't work to switch to the review plugin notepad. Any idea why control+tab wouldn't work?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Does NVDA block control combinations?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: ah yes I am sad to say I referred them to the tech board to ask about that same quesiton Ihave not the foggiest clue why
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: no worries, thanks anyway
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: not that i know of I use control tab all the time
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: I can ctrl+tab through browser tabs
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: there might be some sort of nvda setting that is being weird, who knows.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: scroll lock maybe or function?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: could also be a stuck key
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: I'm looking on the internet... seems if you have shadowplay or whatever you need to turn it off to work but that's not an nvda thing
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hehe. that's nvidia the graphics card company.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: but I don't pretend to know what that is so
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: haha
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cat Lord: Lejaguar nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: thougth I'd bring up just incase :P
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: What is CTRL+TAB in NVDA? Just curious
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: in mushclient it switches to the notepad window 
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Ah okay
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: in NVDA I have no idea. it doesn't seem like it does anything for this person I'm trying to help
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I actually work in accessibility and was confused lol
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: Hmmm this is so weird
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: I hate knowing that someone's having trouble with output when its so useful
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: and not konwing a solution
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: knowing*
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: For sure...
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: and lol shadowplay was the only thing tha thad anything to dow ith control tab not working when I looked it up on google so lol
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Don't worry. You weren't the only one who thought for a second that might be related. :P
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: oh so I'm not alone :P
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Maybe you can change the hotkey for ctrl+tab in Windows or keyboard settings somewhere? No idea. Shouldn't have to, though...
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: yeah I'm looking through my nvda settings right now
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: well I can definitely add a new hotkey to the plugin 
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Wish I knew NVDA better than I do. JAWS fanboy for too long.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but if this one doesn't work imagine all the other ones that don't work
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Yeah, that's kinda..
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Not ideal, heh
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: right?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: THere's nothin' in keyboard settings about control tab
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Areia I am very familiar with most major screen readers. I have to dip for a bit for dinner. However, later, I'd be happy to try and assist you. I can't make any promises, but I'd like to help
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Smittens!!!  Truthless Areia cheers him on.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: To be clear, it's not i who needs the help, but I bet the person would appreciate that maybe!
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Oh okay. Understood. Nonetheless, I'd like to help if I can
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: When the person presses ctrl+tab, what does it do for them?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: My understanding is it does something in the client, not related to NVDA. However, let me do a quick search to see what CTRL+TAB does in NVDA natively
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It doesn't do anything.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I know it does natively, such as when you are viewing web content
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Reason I ask is because there IS NVDA+tab, and I wonder if that's what they are pressing, thinking the NVDA is ctrl.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: I wonder if maybe something happened so that the plugin isn't working propperly somehow... but I just don't see how that'd occur
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: NVDA+TAB.. Think of the NVDA part as being whatever hotkey they want. By default, I believe it's Insert. You can change it to be CAPS if you want
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: When I say they, I don't mean to be offensive. I'm sighted, I just know because this is my job
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, perhaps they set theirs to Ctrl?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: I can't find the any key.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: I'm not sure that's an option, if it is I can't see it
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: No, it's most likely Insert (default) or CAPS
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: the only options for nvda I've seen is capslock and insert
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm just throwing out possibilities. I know nothing of NVDA myself.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: No problem. I'm just pressed for time :)
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just to confirm, though, their CTRL button DOES work otherwise?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I will definitely try to help when I get back
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Depends on what you use CTRL for
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: For example
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: I'm not sure I could send them a tell but not sure whehter Fiendish is talking to them so don't want to spam them
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: If NVDA is currently speaking, you can press CTRL to silence it
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: How silly would it be if the Ctrl button wasn't working at all? :p
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Smittens.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Used with other keys, it's tough to say. I'm hearing that CTRL+TAB does something in the client, but CTRL+TAB is a native NVDA command too
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Could be lol
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No documentation I've read lists Ctrl+Tab as anything NVDA uses.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: I thought control plus tab just goes between sections of the windows, though sometimes in windows that don't have that option it just does nothing
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Let me turn it on. I'll tell you
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: or maybe that's just JAWS.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Lejaguar, that's ALT+TAB
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: No alt+tab goes between windows, I mean control tab goes from one part of a window to another
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I need to switch to my work laptop. I don't have NVDA on this one
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: actually let me try something...
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: sec
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Lejaguar That could be F6 too
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: for JAWS both F6 and control tab do similar things
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Weird, I'm not sure what CTRL+TAB does, if anything. I could have sworn
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: in my experience, just F6 seems to work more often
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Maybe that's what it is
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Yeah, so F6 is usually how you would switch between panes in like desktop programs. In a web browser, it would be CTRL+F6
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: oh interesting didn't know about contro f6
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Maybe CTRL+TAB is something similar. I need to brush up on that
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: aww their offline rn cant' ask them
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Dang
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Well I have to go, too. But hit me up later if you see me on
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I'll try to help
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: they _do_ use the control key to stop speech
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: so that means that control is working propperly and is not the nvda modifier or whatever
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: no, this is their nvda stop key
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: yeah Control stops speech in both JAWS and NVDA.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: use it all the time it is very useful for stopping spam
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: And what about tab?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so if control stops speech, how does control plus other stuff work?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: control + other stuff should do what the command is set to, and control tab seems to be controled by the specific window settings, because sometimes it doesn't work, but in mushclient... since it is saet to go to the notepad, as I understand it, it should work
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: um, btw... is there a way to somehow turn off the output?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: type tts
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: for me that turns off the screen reader saying what goes on output but I can still use control tab to get to it...
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cat Lord: Lejaguar nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: But was wondering if it was possible to somehow accidentally get rid of the output so you can't get to it... or move it out of screen readers' reach somehow
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: why does it appear good gaming monitors are crap for text(worddocs)
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: goodness for gaming monitors usually means low frame latency
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Because text isn't graphics.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: nothing about fidelity of the image
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: nothing 200% zoom cant fix... but well ..ya.... tho funny enough mush is fine :p
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: kerith you need to get rid of those shrooms
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: I only do booze & dad jokes/puns.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so it turns out that we were able to bypass the ctrl+tab problem because ctrl+alt+spacebar also works
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: who knows why
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: omg that turned on screen reader
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thy Friend Yerald falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: roflmao
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: Think about this Lejaguar... he may not have turned off his screen reader and it read off our laughing.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: So... does NVDA just do stupid things with ctrl+tab..
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: How strange
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: haha
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: lol this is going to bother me though
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: whats the up arrow & counter for on snd miniwindow?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sets your noexp limit.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: lolz dont want that! ok tx :)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: is there a way to keep my prompt sitting still?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: technically yes, but it requires hiding your prompt and rebuilding it at the bottom
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Can't De Cide goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: one could also add a sticky note to monitor with prompt... would be easier :)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Can't De Cide snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: although adding a 1 line window under main output with your prompt is super easy to do
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hrrdy Grrdy Tech: Does anyone have any pointers to discussion on how the mapper handles segments?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hrrdy Grrdy Tech: I know there's always the source code :)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: segments? I assumed it just does bfs/dfs and that's it
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hrrdy Grrdy Tech: For pathfinding I assume that to be the case as well, however I noticed a segments lookup table in the database and was curious how it is used. I assume it's for the mapper display more than pathfinding.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: ahh... probably the way to display otherwise overlapping rooms?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hrrdy Grrdy Tech: Ahh yeah, that would make sense. Didn't think of that.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hrrdy Grrdy Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: what is the command to copy text with color for mushclient?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: ctrl d
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: np :)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mentalos Tech: When using the dinv plugin, is there a way to "sell all unused items" ?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hrrdy Grrdy Tech: That's a feature i'd love to see.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: There isn't any, sadly
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hrrdy Grrdy Tech: Even being able to use 'unused' in queries would be pretty sweet.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I'm told it's one of the most requested features, though! :P
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mentalos Tech: I see, thanks!
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aquabat Gremten Tech: Has anyone made a plugin that makes making a poll less meh?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Too many variables.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aquabat Gremten Tech: noooooo
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I've thought about it.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aquabat Gremten nudges (Aleister) Crowley.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aquabat Gremten Tech: It's, like, the worst thing I have to do as a clan leader :P
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Actually, could just set up an editor box, I guess, to select things that way. *shrug*
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You /could/ just write an up alias for it in general.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aquabat Gremten Tech: I'm doing a buncha crap to learn unity rn, I just don't have time to relearn lua
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aquabat Gremten Tech: yeah. That's true.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Only thing you'd need to do is actually get the vote number, so you can start a vote, grab the number, store it, and then run the alias off it.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aquabat Gremten Tech: Can alias' have pop up boxes to enter variables?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It can, yes.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But... whatever pops up after 'vote new <name>', you can trigger off that anyway.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aquabat Gremten Tech: And now my brain hurts.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, trigger off vote new, it'll grab the vote number, and the trigger can use that instead.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aquabat Gremten Tech: I'll see what I can codge up
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aquabat Gremten Tech: and then I'll share it so the competent can mock me. :)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aquabat Gremten Tech: I play factoro with an engineer friend of mine and it drives him bonkers how I brute force systems to make them work
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: hi Crowley, question on SND - I'm trying to get the snd miniwindow to pop up after doing an aard layout reset, but all the commands i can think of (xset win, xset winreset, etc) arent resetting the window. is there something I'm missing or should be trying?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adara Tech: reinstall snd?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: tried that, no luck. the window isnt there, but everything else works as normal
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Welding: try xset win show
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adara Tech: could it be hiding behind one of your main windows? move them around a bit?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, xset win on
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: tried both 'xset win show' and 'xset win on', commands seem to work but no luck on finding this elusive window thus far... thought it might be hiding but i dont see anything yet.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: At some point, I plan on implementing it with DIY windows so it'll be more compatible with aard layout.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Try snd reload, too.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: snd reload reloads the campaign targets on the main screen. and, i can still go to them with xcp, but no miniwindow still :( it must be in hiding
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: has to reset the window
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm surprised that nothing has brought it up. I wonder, Welding... have you changed resolution lately from larger to smaller?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: I have, yes :( was seeing if I could "fish" around and try to grab it on this lower res screen, but no luck so far. im guessing its hidden somewhere. but even moving all my stuff to the back, I've had no luck, lol
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ah, it's likely hidden off the screen. Hold on, there's a way I think you can fix that.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: perfect, think thats what I need :) appreciate the efforts
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm surprised that the reset doesn't move it to 0,0... but that may be an error in code. Hold on.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Welding, in command line, do: \\\WindowPosition("sd_window_30000000537461726c696e67", 0, 0, 4, 16)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: I think im doing this wrong, but got the message "the specified path is invalid."
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, you may not have \\\ as your scripting prefix.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Do this instead... Ctrl+I, and paste this in the window, then hit run: WindowPosition("sd_window_30000000537461726c696e67", 0, 0, 4, 16)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: aha!! perfect, pulled it right up :D Thank you so much, saved me a headache this monday morning hahah
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, while you're at it, snd force update beta, xset index areas. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: will do. thank you again :)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: New areas, that'll get rid of the headache of Chakra not being part of the areas.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley beams with pride.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: anyone here tried the psvr2 yet?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm waiting to buy it, in time.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Seen a number of YT videos on it, but haven't watched one yet.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: mine's arriving today, I'll let you know what I think
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I kind of wish it wasn't still wired, but at least it's one wire
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: my newphew broke my psvr, so I told the wife, darn I'm going to have to get a new one, she doesn't know I'm getting the 2 lol
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I am excited to try Resident Evil Village on VR
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: too spooky for me
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh man, I would LOVE to do that.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: How much did it cost you?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: it's funny, RE7 came out with VR capability right when the first VR launched, I think Sony is paying Capcom bookoo bucks to help they're VR launches
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: $550, which if my other one wasn't broken I don't know if I would do
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: the first resident evil on PSVR1 was amazing at the time.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: but Ayla has a quest 2 now so hard to justify PSVR2 (also hard to justify with no time to play it)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: night and day compared to every other VR game, imo, Lasher
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedi Kandorr Tech: using VR is like the inverse of traveling the speed of light, take off the visor and feel like hours have passed, while everyone else is just 30 mins older
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: nod lasher, my PS is next to my work station, so I could pop that baby on during boring conference calls, lol
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: we have to be on video now :(
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I have the PSVR2.  It's amazing :)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: ewww, I'm sorry. We do sometimes, but if it's internal with the same people we don't
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: thanks Durel, now I'm not as nervous for my purchase!
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I do get motion sickness with it, but only when I take it off and reality looks so weird :p
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It's kind of crazy
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That is a steep cost, but thankfully I have Zip, and I can break it into 4 payments!
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: do you notice a difference between games that were originally made for the first one, like do they look better? Or will it just be a difference for games designed for psvr2?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: actually on the PS page, you can do 4 payments, or even 12 payments no interest, that's what I did
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: this is the first VR I've done so I don't have any experience with the prior stuff.  The only games I've done so far are Call of the Mountain (Horizon) and the demo for a Star Wars game
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I just want to be able to block out the kids and pretend I can't see them and accidentally punch one of them when I go in to punch an enemy.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (not really)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: figured the wife won't recognize $50 per month
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers with Piffaron about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: lol crowley, the not really... some days lol, some days
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I rarely buy things for myself, to be honest. I may have to dig into the pockets and just buy this. Last big purchase I bought was the PS5, though.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: same, I trip over amazon boxes all the time of stuff my wife ordered lol
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm. I wonder if Fiendish would be able to rewrite the wrapped captures functions to include another argument for "tagged_output". The additional argument would identify how many times a certain "endline" needs to show before it determines it is the end of the capture. An example would be: Capture.tagged_output("note list", "Posts in the \\w+ forum :", "^[\\-\\+]+", 3, ...) where the '3' means 'Match the end line 3 times before it considers it the end of the capture.'
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Probably would need to move it to the end, though, to allow backward compatiblity.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: I want to do something based on my alignment, but this "if gmcp("char.status.align") > "745" then" doesnt get evaluated when my alignment goes above 999
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: forgot to do tonumber()
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: but it works with 999 just not 1000 ?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: if tonumber(gmcp("char.status.align")) > 745
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You don't need tonumber.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh, guess I'm wrong then
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: gmcp("char.status.align") returns a string. As long as the number is quoted, it treats it as a string.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: right but he wants to do a number comparison
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So it can either be: tonumber(gmcp("char.status.align")) > 745 or gmcp("char.status.align") > "745".
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: surely those won't be the same result
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That is fair.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: i thought GCMP used JSON under the hood. JSON *has* a numeric type
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it does, but fiendish's gmcphelper returns stuff as strings
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Regardless, it returns correctly, string or number.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: yeah, consistency over complexity
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: but if it doesn't tonumber and it's treated as a string, it'll treat it as a word and after 999, it starts with 1 which comes before 7 which is the first character in 745 so it's viewed as smaller, no?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just tested with \\\local testStr = "745" print(testStr > "743") print(testStr > "763")
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: if tonumber(gmcp("char.status.align")) > 745 then      isnt working either
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: just tried this in the immediate window: result = ("1000" > "745") print(result)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and the result is false
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh sorry I forgot it's string.tonumber()
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, I was going to say that, too. Just checked with 4 digit numbers.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: if string.tonumber(gmcp("char.status.align")) > 745 then
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: not used to lua yet
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Uh, no string.tonumber.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: if string.tonumber(gmcp("char.status.align")) > 745 then      did not work either
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: huh
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It really is just: if tonumber(gmcp("char.status.align")) > 745
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: are you requiring "gmcphelper" at the start of your script?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: yes, it works at 999 align
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As for why it's not working for Bloodthorn, it's time for some debugging. Bloodthorn, right before the eval, just do: print(tonumber(gmcp("char.status.align")) and see what it prints out.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ya i used gmcpstatus = gmcp("char.status") ; align=tonumber(gmcpstatus.align)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: adding the print didnt print anything
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Then it's something else with your script.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Now you should do some debug prints, and see where it stops printing.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I can confirm that print(tonumber(gmcp("char.status.align"))) works for me in the immediate window
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: oh I was missing a )
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: doh!
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: I copy/pasted it correctly though ;)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: ok, that output my align correctly, but it was still not evaluated correctly by the trigger
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: what's your trigger command now?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: require "gmcphelper"  print(tonumber(gmcp("char.status.align")))  if gmcp("char.status.align") > "755" then   Execute("go_evil"    end
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: that execute is ended with a ) correctly
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: try this: require "gmcphelper"  print(tonumber(gmcp("char.status.align")))  if tonumber(gmcp("char.status.align")) > 755 then   Execute("go_evil"    end
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh actually there's a missing bracket just before the end
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: I mispasted that part
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but other than that, yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: error attempt to compare string with number
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: you need to remove the quotes around the number
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: you have to do a numerical comparison or the result won't be right
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: that was it, and fixed it, awesome
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: you're welcome
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: and so I understand, the reason it half-worked before is because of the way it interprets strings?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: because of the way strings are compared
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Pretty much, yeah.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: cool, thanks for working that out and helping me understand
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: "999" is greater than "888", but "1000" is not greater than "999" because "1" is not greater than "9"
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: lexical sorting vs numeric
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah that
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: classic foot-gun
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, it goes digit by digit, like it was the alphabet.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: ABC comes before ACB, etc.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: makes sense!
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It is good practice to always treat numbers as numbers. If you have quotes around the number, you're going to run into problems. Just 'tonumber()' the string to make sure you get it right.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Only time it really doesn't matter is if you are checking if they are equal. Then you can do string or number. So, tonumber("123") > 120, but you can do "123" == "123".
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (Still, convert to numbers. Saves you headaches down the road.)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I forget the reason for converting everything to strings in the gmcp function, but I'm sure I had one
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 9th Tier Yajan snorkles.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: probably simplicity since CallPlugin requires serialization anyway
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: yeah, that's my theory too
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 9th Tier Yajan smart.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: TBH with the years you've been writing plugins, amazed yoj remember half the functions
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: the alternative would've been writing a big switch statement that looked at every single tag that GCMP returns and then condtionally converting it to some other type
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: i'm guessing the only actual types encountered are strings and numbers so it makes sense to simplify
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: or just letting things blow up
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: that's my preference
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: yajan's approach is a good one
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: code it stupidly, until it breaks
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: err simply I mean
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: indeed. It seems like the person calling the function should know whether they expect to treat the value as a number or not.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I don't think lua has a switch statement, does it?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: ummm.. pretty sure I haven't used one if it does
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: no it doesn't
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: just some uggo elseif
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if/else/else/else is sentimentally equivalent though
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: When I was t3 I had a gigantic ugly elseif statement for my attack spell alias covering every level attack spell i had
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: haha
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish, how difficult would it be to modify the tagged_output function to include one more parameter which signifies how many times the 'end line' should show up before it considers it done capturing?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I don't need no elseif, I have goto.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: difficult for whom
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: I mean, there's alternative ways to code around having to use an elseif at all in many cases
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, for you, I suppose. I won't touch that with a 10-foot pole, not yet anyway.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 9th Tier Yajan gotos Erikson for a hug.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: probably not that hard
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: notice me Senpai!
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but I'm juggling too many todos at the moment, so put an issue
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: for example using regex can allow you to not have to use switches for string matching
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I only ask because of Selitos' note requesting hyperlinks on note numbers. It'll be easier to count [\-\+]+ to three than anything else, honestly.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Will submit it as an issue.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: however I guess if it's a different action for each string.. hmm
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: gotta think about this one
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: you could do it as separate triggers/aliases instead of a big scripted elseif set I guess
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: essentially the same is happening behind the scenes but.... less blob in one block.. though I think I'd prefer elseif in that case for debugging purposes
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: much easier to track down what's happening
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: anyway, I think I'm just debating with myself at this point
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: is there a way to see what the name of the last mob you autohunted?  for example if i last autohunted 17.small flower is there a command to retype that
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: unless you have that in a variable, I wouldn't know.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Chances are the autohunt has that variable itself...
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you are using SnD, it stores the variable (if I remember correctly). :p Just gotta look up the variable again.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: yea using snd
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What happens when you just type 'ah'?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Afterall it needs someway of knowing what to hu t if the plugin has a pause/resume feature 
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: if i type ah it switches it to ahem
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What version are you on?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: How do you look up the variable, Crow?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, I don't store it if not on quest/etc.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: uh 5.99 beta i think
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Alison: Let me dig through the code again. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Are you talking about outside quests, Dartan?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: just in general but mainly for cp
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It /should/ store it if you haven't switched targets. Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: how do i call it back?  just type ah?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Try that, yeah.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: something is aliasing it to send the mud "ahem" instead
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Alison: local a, b = CallPlugin("30000000537461726C696E67", "target_as_json") print(b) will show the information. I need to modify it to grab just the name itself, though, hmm.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No, 'ah' defaults to 'ahem' if SnD has no target for it. Okay, I'll work on changing that in the near furute. Got a half hour left of work, then all the goodness of getting home, getting kids, making dinner, etc.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Yeah, I mean, is there a command I can enter to grab the variable, or do I have to edit SnD manually to add it?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Here's an example that has happened to me before. I get a CP in FT2. It's "a princess". I sigh and start hunt tricking them. It's 31.princess. Okay. but when I get there, someone else has already killed the mob as they're farming in that section. No biggie. I have other CP mobs to do, so I do them and come back after repop. Wait, what was the princess number again? Do I have to hunt trick all over again and wait through 30 princesses of hunting?!!
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: If I could save/grab the variable somewhere, it would be a breeze.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Also I have echocommands off so after a long hunt trick it can actually be hard to tell which specific number was the final one :P
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i think after repop the pricess number would change anyway
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: 31.princess won't be 31.princess on a repop.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: SnD would ahve to store which room the mob was hunt tricked too, which also might not be the same room after repop
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: i prefer the analog approach of just wandering around aimlessly
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: FT2 is just horrible with princess. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Wouldn't it still be 30. or 32.?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: it won't change by a lot, right?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It would repop to the top of the list, in repop order.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If every single princess repopped at the same time, then in theory it should remain the same. But that would require all princesses to die in the same repop.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: 31.princess can easily become 10.princess.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's crazy to think that in the past, a player being in the area influenced the repop time.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Selitos has been on the 31.princess train before
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: razor cortex was the worst thing i ever put on my computer on purpose
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: I second that
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: trying to think of something worse, but failing pretty hard
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Crash.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Mis.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I have hidden the title bar of a mini window. Can someone help me make it appear again so I can move it around?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you should be able to do that from right mouse click on window
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it's in bottom 
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: It's one of the Bast miniwindows. For example, the one that displays Double. With the title bar not there, right clicking doesn't seem to do anything
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Oh...
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: try reloading the plugin?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Nevermind :)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: If I click where the titlebar should be, it opens the menu
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Nevermind, not the menu I thought
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I'll try to reload
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: bast miniwins depend on what window you are using. you should be able to reset it via command
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: In this case, it is miniwin_double
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if it's stats window, command is mstat
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: So I guess mdbl. Just found it
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yeah, then it's just variable from there
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How does one set Mushclient to automatically reconnect when disconnected? Mine doesn't seem to be doing that.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: it's in the options
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Connection > Reconnect on Disconnect
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Was looking in the Configuration window to no avail.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: is there any way to not make the fake tracker window log socials twice??
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if you are using fake tracker, remove socials from normal comm win
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: If I were to create an alias that first does a GMCP check for whether or not I'm asleep and if so do X and then regardless do Y, would tehre be any noticeable lag between that and just having the alias do Y?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Probably not.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Aight, time to add a bunch of gmcp checks, then :D
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I think I've asked this before but I can't remember the answer. Is there anything to trigger off of every new irl day? Is there like a "Player rankings have been reset" or something of the kind?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes, more or less.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can use a timer set to IRL time.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can also trigger off player rankings and check the time there.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: If I wanted it to follow the mud-reset?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, make the timer fire when the MUD resets the day. So, if you're 3 hours ahead of MUDtime, set it to be 3am.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If it's for a plugin purpose, though, and you want it to be universal, that is a tad more difficult.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Roger, I feel that must be the best option if the mud itself doesn't announce it :)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Well, it's for my own "rankings" really
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'd love a report on some stuff daily
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: And a comparison to the day before
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not explicitly, that I recall. There's no, "A new day begins." on Aardwolf at midnight, MUD time.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'm already doing it hourly, based on the rankings updated message... But... You know... Can't have too many stats :P
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: you could subscribe to rankings board and wait for the daily rankings post at 00:00am every day
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh, hmm... That's true. It'd message me a "new note posted to..." message every hour, right?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: at 00:00 every day it posts the daily rankings
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Ooh, true!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: board rankings;note list for examples of timing
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: You smart!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Hardly. Just like to think outside the box
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I mean, if /that's/ what you want to do... :p
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But who wants to subscribe to the rankings board?!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: right? so spammy!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (for the record, I also reset my daily stuff, too)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Well... I can always gag it :P
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I have the (un)fortunate opportunity to reside in the eastern timezone, so it's easier. Still, I do make it harder for myself, having it fire off player rankings at midnight. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}# Burning Myth Tech: small note: while rankings are posted at 00:00, it's not 00:00:00, but rather something like 00:00:35 (seconds)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Ewww
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: yeah, rankings are done offset, so if you get that one pup between 00:00:00 and 00:00:35 well, your rankings are going to be skewed.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: And everything is ruined :(
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Best to stop doing anything at 11:59.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: the horror :(
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes, 11:59, not 23:59.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I'll just have to make sure I take a 35 second pause around midnight :P
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}# Burning Myth Tech: actually now it's more like 00:00:19. you can see the exact time if you read notes on Rankings board and pay attention to their posting time (it is up to seconds)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'm fine with that, very rarely am I here around the time it resets
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'll just sync my pups with a daily reset and make sure I don't pup more than once every 35 seconds :P
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: The perfect bot
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hehe, yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: snd cant xrt to chakra? is there any fix?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: xset index areas
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: snd force update beta, though.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I need to fix xset index areas. I'm also working on making something a little better.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: that worked. thanks crowley!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: my mushclient window is messed up, the game is taking up only half if the window and the other half is like plain white/gray. i have tried minimizing, restoring, tiling, maximizing windows, min/max the larger window, restarting computer. not sure what happened
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: when you say "restoring" did you try the resetaard command?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'd do aard layout reset myself, yeah.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: yeah that
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that sounds like the info bar has gone wild
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what happens if you go to View->Info Bar?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: yeah when  I make the info bar go away, i get the whole window again
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the info bar is weirdly draggable and sometimes people accidentally drag it and it breaks
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: somehow info bar stared making things wonky
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I just keep it hidden
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: ohhhhh
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: I use the info bar because i write msgs to it about my player status
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: holy smokes. I just learned just now that you can fully detach the info bar into a floating window
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: look at us all learning things today
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but now I don't know how to put it back
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 9th Tier Yajan frowns.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: (can in Wine anyway. I don't know if this is a real windows thing or not)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: I have mine separated into floating window, never tried to put it back, though
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I don't even know how
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: in windows, not wine
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: lol. i, too, would like to figure out where the drag handles are so i can drag the info bar back
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Ruhamah: I detached it by grabbing the very side edge
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: if you right click you don't get options?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I don't know how to reattach it though so be warned
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yajan: no
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}# Burning Myth Tech: close it and reopen?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: I do get options if right click
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: close reopen doesn't work, rip to my info bar
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}# Burning Myth Tech: or kill process from task manager and restart
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you do? :( not in wine
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: one sec. gonna kill mushclient
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Girthy Redwood Tech: DO IT!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: wine in linux?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: i right clicked, i get a context menu, but not for the info bar
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: nope. still detached
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I can put it back by grabbing the side of the bar and moving it back to left under
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: lol I think I live this way now
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: rip
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyway, the UX for the info bar is...bad. very bad.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I kinda feel like the space it occupies could just be a miniwindow instead though, and I at least know how to make those
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: well.. I mean it just a cool extra bar I guess.. I've never used it
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: omg II just did something and dragged a shadow of the infobar somewhere else!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: lolz
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: AH!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: reset toolbar locations
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: under the view menu
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: try that
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Fiendish try View>Reset toolbar locations
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish nods at Ayasinda.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: ah yes! that did it
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: lol you figured it out already
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: my life is not ruined, ty
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I still think hiding the info bar and then using a miniwindow instead gives more control, but obviously that would be above the input instead of below it
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faithful Ruhamah rapidly nods twice at 1337 H4x0r Fiendish, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: if i can get 100% usage of the info bar, that would allow so many possibilities. like being able to echo some gmcp stats, etc
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: unrelated to this, I heard from someone that one of your plugins needs zip.dll?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I only ship zip/unzip.exe with mushclient. don't know about any dll
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: i think that is a mistake, i need to figure out what my plugin manager does. i based it off of pwar's on GitHub
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I only use zip for compressed mapper backups, and for that I just shell out
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: utils.shellexecute("cmd", "/C "..execute_string, "", "open", 0)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: my unzip code is here https://github.com/l33t-xyz/l33t-aardwolf-plugins/blob/8bfa004420195d064ead64b9fb482ae2b9231840/l33t_plugin_manager.xml#L483
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: iirc I just copied what Pwar had done, and did not tweak it much
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: require 'zip' 
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I wonder where that comes from
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: looks like pwar made some repos private, this is all I see now: https://github.com/hudmond/hudmond.github.io
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: when SND wants to navigate into a maze, it often fails unless it's by chance targetted the first room of the maze. Is there any way to just route all those mapper actions into the first room of the maze? For example, with gauntlet
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ugh
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Bluefeather uses that, too. IIRC I couldn't find that dll or docs on it anywhere when I looked ages ago.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: annoying
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: I mean, where it came from
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: that's a mapper thing more so than S&D
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I'm not sure snd could navigate through gauntlet because it's random exits let alone mapper.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: agreed, but any work arounds?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: well if the start room is random how would you propose it should work?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: I"m not asking SND to navigate through gauntlet, rather that when I hit "go", the mapper always goes to the first room in gauntlet which I know can be reached
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: you can move the location you want to move to sure.  xset mark I believe.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Make an alias that takes area name as input and runs you to first room of the maze in that area.. is what I did
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: then it always considers that room as the start room
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: you could force the ordering of the rooms to order based on which is lowest room number (typically the "start" room).. in theory
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: depends on the version, in pwars for example if it can't find the destination room it will take me to the area start room set by xset mark or xset mark here forget the exact command.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: but you'd have to know when to override the typical ordering
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: yeah i have aliases for gauntlet maze, grotto maze, etc., but it's just a fraction slower for me to type it out
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: and this is all mapper side again
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Truthless Areia nods at Tasty Tipro.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: xset mark is snd side.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: well an extension.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: I don't think he wants to change entrance room of area though?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: sounds like he does?  He wants to go to room "52" instead of room "1" when going to gauntlet.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: correct, I don't. Maybe if I identify all room IDs in gauntlet maze, I could reroute any mapper goto commands for those to instead hit only the first room in the maze
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: for gauntlet it might work ok
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: since the other mobs aren't targets very often
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: probably more trouble than it's worth. MIght just stick with my aliases and suffer greatly by typing "rt gmaze" :P
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: okay, i'll try to remove the require 'zip'
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but then your zip functions won't work
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I change the area "start" room all the time.  Have to as a hardcore honestly.  It works perfectly for me.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: you could get into the mapper guts of the sorting of results returned from "mapper area" and "mapper find"
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: oh really? darn :(
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: but you'd need a way to know when to do something different than default
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: unless you just always want to sort that way.. I think SnD does some intelligent sorting though when you use mapper find
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: pwar never really got the hang of using github, so his stuff is all bundled up in zip files. maybe it's inside one of them
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: that's an interesting idea, Yajan. Looks like the default is by room ID ascending
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: well why doesn't it work already then :'(
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: most of pwar's stuff is lua, he does have one .dll tho.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: like I've noticed mapper won't go to Sea in Grotto
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: I think because i often kill mobs not in the first room, my "go" command isn't routing to the first room
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yeah I found it
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: it thinks I want the 3rd room of grotto sea to kill the sea serpent or whatever
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ruhamah: download and unpack https://github.com/hudmond/ppm/blob/master/Pwars_Plugin_Manager_v1.33.zip
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: the underlying commands against mapper (I would imagine are mapper area [room name] followed by mapper next)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: he has a zip.dll in there
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: so if they're in room id order, you'd think it'd just go to lowest room num
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: right, that's probably where I got the zip.dll from, but that doesn't help the other person i'm trying to help... at least not immediately
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I wish I could get a hang of github, been wanting to write some plugins.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: It just means you need to distribute the dll too if you want to use that method 
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: k
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Yes Pwar's will 100% not work without the .ddl and it has to be in the root folder I believe.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: I think you could provide some conditional stuff so if you send mapper area [grotto] you could change the sort order manually
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: might be the cleanest
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: whew, finally fixed my aard layout
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyone using a screenreader right now?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Truthless Areia peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hi. Areia: is it normal for vi to be pronounced as six? It feels strange for a reader to read roman numerals.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: this is what i've been wondering about too!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Of course not, six is a text editor.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: JAWS reads II and III as 'two' and 'three'. Otherwise... nope, pronounces it phonetically.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Albeathel's NVDA says six, which tells me that perhaps "vi" is not a great acronym for us to use.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Hahaha
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Yeah.. maybe not
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: i was planning on writing a note that we should change it all to blind
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: There's nothing wrong with it IMO. 'Course you'll always get people who prefer to be referred to this or that way, but..
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Truthless Areia shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I get that, but we need something that doesn't break 
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Right
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: is there a different short word that would work?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Low-vision? Not very short though. Uh
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it doesn't need to be extremely short. people know how to type, as long as the spelling isn't ambiguous
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: also ideally with no dashes i think
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Truthless Areia agrees!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: properly we should  be referring to the technology not the person
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: reader mode, not vi mode
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Also
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: i kept looking at your non-visual base for screen readers and trying to think how that could be shortened
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: V.I. could work
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: if we're telling people in help vi-tips to turn off punctuation would they hear the dots?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: No screen reader should trip over that
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: at least for the commands it should be something that doesn't require punctuation that isn't normally spoken
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Truthless Areia nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Fair
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: it's long but screen reader mode?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: typhlotic
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: i wonder if there's a word with a more positive twist. something that would be more fun to type
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: hmm sightless isn't horrible i guess
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: night vision mode. I lived with an old blind woman for several years, and she'd always say that she saw just as well in the dark. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Truthless Areia snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: hmm i love that
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I don't have any emotional skin in the game, but it seems to me that as long as Perkins calls itself the school for the blind that using "blind" should be fine unless a bunch of people complain about it
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: i do remember lasher saying that eventually it should all be switched to blind
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Truthless Areia agrees!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: i don't know if eventually is now but i do know that the vi help files are useless if you type help six or help 6!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: help meh
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: I need teh helpz
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Truthless Areia peers intently at 9th Tier Yajan.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: What up
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, regarding SnD, if you do: 'snd force update beta', there's xset maze, which you can use to mark the first room of a maze. Then, when it pops up on the list, the maze start will always be the first go location. You can also create your own 'xrt' to any room in the MUD you want. For instance, if you wanted to runto the start of the gauntlet maze with 'xrt', you can go to the start room, type 'xset mark gauntmaze' and then from that point forward, do 'xrt gauntmaze' to go there.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: something to consider about using blind is that if you help search blind a lot comes up it might be confused with spells for blindness
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There are some Beta options that aren't in the master yet. Fleshing out some things, and obviously 'beta' means 'bugs possible', so...
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: nice!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: cool feature
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: i'm looking at blind animals there's hydra or mole. 
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: then of course there's daredevil for a superhero
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: in regards to Dinv.  What sets the find value for "clan".  For example dinv search clan pyre works just fine, but dinv search clan druid does not (while dinv search clan druids) does work.  Is this just a hard coded list of clan identifiers?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: that's weird its druids rather than druid
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: ran into this before, its not the clan shortname, its a string match on the long name
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: and whole-word matching only like keyword acts for dinv
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: eg: dinv search clan administration will return wolf clan stuff like db tokens :)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: that explains it, dinv search clan circle also works.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoyalFlush Kelaire Tech: For what it's worth if you really care deep down inside - local clan = inv.items.getStatField(objId, invStatFieldClan) or "" is the line called to get it, calling a function which is basically parsing invmon/invdata output
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: awesome thanks Kelaire.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: anyone have a link for the aarch tracker plugin?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think Areia updated one, but Cynik had the original.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: wasn't that winds tracker?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: that'll help with my googling, thx
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sommeil shrugs in response to Ralyn's question.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: no idea, I'm not there yet
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sommeil: Check AardCentral (link in my finger).
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Still a work in progress, but you can get to Areia's that way.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Ya, that's for winds. I don't do Aarch ^^
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sommeil nods at Truthless Areia.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: someone does, though... somewhere
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Ruh? Zaf?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Maybe Zaf.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, you said Aarch, not Winds. Ugh.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: My mistake.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Thanks for Aard Central, Crowley. I have most of these scripts, but I found a few I missed - like a window for autoX settings so I don't accidentally hit the dark genie general again.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly at Ingenue Alison.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: i have an aarch plugin if you need one
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I use aarch report
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If anyone knows of any I've missed on there, let me know, too.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm not sure I have Ruhamah's up there yet.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Lord LiamSmythe Tech: what is (Aleister) mean
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That is my pretitle.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Though I renamed to Crowley based on Supernatural, most people assumed it was Aleister Crowley, so I just adopted that as my pretitle.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Lord LiamSmythe Tech: oh... ok
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: All this time, I just assumed Aleister Crowley was Crowley's full name on Supernatural.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles at Summoner Yuna's joke.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: For the record, Crowley's real name was Fergus Roderick MacLeod. Crowley was his demon name, and his only name, after his death as a human.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vandit Tech: spoiler alert
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: He became a demon after dying?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: of the clan MacLeod. born in the highlands of scotland 
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Lord LiamSmythe Tech: lol... i'm litereally from the Clann Smythe -- from the Scottish Isles
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: in the end there can be only one
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: does mushclient and/or fiendish's extensions to it have JSON support/capability?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I like using this: https://github.com/rxi/json.lua
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Serialization and deserialization.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: haha, yeah, found that one, just wondered if there was a builtin one
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Well it ships with Mushclient/lua/json
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: You can use the libs in there
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: (that was a file path if it wasn't clear)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: next question then, is there a way to do https API requests with mushclient?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I found some forum post from 6 years ago that looks icky, is there a better way since then?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can, yes.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: 'melvin, !weather 13219'
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: [Melvin]: Syracuse, NY 13219, USA: Overcast Temp: 36F (2.2C) Feels like: 27F (-2.8C) Humidity: 73%  Wind: W at 19 mph. Visibility: 10 miles. Cloud cover: 100% Current time: 15:51
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nice, what do you use to do that? and can it do custom headers?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: (needed for API key auth)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Melvin is full of API requests. Fiendish's async module does https request asynchronously.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can do custom headers, yes.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hadar's Discord notification has some header information, too.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Dig through the async.lua file. I haven't done any real auth myself, but Melvin can even chat with you using a chat bot loaded through API.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, here's the example from the Discord plugin: local body = {} body["headers"] = {} local encode = json.encode(payload) body.headers["content-type"] = "application/json" body["source"] = encode async.doAsyncRemoteRequest(wHook, result_function, "HTTPS", 120, timeout_function, body)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh but wait, if there's this Melvin thing, probably somebody already thought to do what I was thinking of, which is web search results? does it already do that?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: sending a GET request to wttr.in or something is probably a little less complex than interacting with Google's search API
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: but the basic components are there yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: Google doesn't have a web search API
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: they have site search APIs
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but no API that lets you get the same results you get when you type into google
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: however, bing does
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and it returns JSON
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Melvin's search is ... less than okay. I haven't really gotten deep into that myself. Just focused on other things like weather, insults, trivia...
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: He also does horoscopes. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I've planned on expanding him out even further, but haven't put serious work into him in a bit.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also... this, too...
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: 'melvin, !fact'
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: [Melvin]: People in nudist colonies play volleyball more than any other sport.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Anyway, time for me to get heading home from work!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I guess the other question is, is being able to search web stuff directly from mushclient useful? I mean, it kinda seems like it ought to be...
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Maybe? Might just be a niche market, though.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Could create a miniwindow to display the browser stuff.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley waves happily.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: for https requests use async.lua. for json serialization/deserialization use json.lua. 
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: fiendish: what about url encode? apparently bing's API uses get requests rather than POST
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: async.lua doesn't care what kind of request you're sending
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no but I mean, I need to url encode my search parameters because they have to go in the URL
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: got it. one sec
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: just wondered if there's a builtin or something you provide that does urlencode
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh. I'm looking at this and making the "I guess!" face: https://rosettacode.org/wiki/URL_encoding#Lua
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: do you need to encode a string or build the string from a table?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: encode a string
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: "my search text" => "hxxps://bing.api.url/whatever?q=my+search+text"
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: is the sort of encoding I mean
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Whenever I open my mushclient, I get the following error window: Line 3153: Unexpected end-of-file while looking for </muclient> (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Then, when I close it, I get: "Unexpected File format".
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: got it, that function won't give you + symbols
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: And then it refuses to open my Aardwolf game. I have to reload from a backup.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj nods at 1337 H4x0r Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: What is going on there and how do I fix it?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it will give you %20
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: well the </muclient> thing sounds related to plugins
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: so maybe you have a busted/corrupted plugin somewhere?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Perhaps Danj. Should I try disabling all plugins and reloading?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Alison: world file reading problem
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: where is your mushclient folder
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Ah. How do I fix that?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Desktop
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm. that particular error message is a big umbrella error that doesn't tell you exactly what's going wrong
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: is there another error at the same time?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: No other errors other than the one I described
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Is there a way to make a new world file or something? 
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Or get the backup version's world file to override the corrupted one?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Since I can reload from a backup just fine
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: danj: I don't think we have a premade urlencode function anywhere
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah I think I can just tweak that rosetta code one to make it work how it should
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: I keep getting an error with danj's new stat plugin, https://imgur.com/a/Lc6DIf8
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Alison: if you can find a way to share your mushclient folder with me, I can look and fix it
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you want
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: What's the best way to do so, Fiendish?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: @Bronnie: please post an issue on github! https://github.com/danj2k/aardwolf-plugins then I can have a look tomorrow
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: have reloaded, closed/reopened, get same error when try to turn it on
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: quit mushclient and zip the folder first, then dropbox, wetransfer, email if it fits, any other file transfer method that is private
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: @Bronnie: also when you post an issue please include a screenshot of how "train" looks for you
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: because it probably means I messed up a trigger
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: alison: did it just start happening recently?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: she's logged off, possibly to do as you've asked
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: rip
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: If I have an alias called "t *" which then sets %1 as the value for arget. How do I get it to display a message like: "Target: <target name>
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: ...when I target something
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: ColourNote("white", "black" ,"Target: " .. %1) would display it.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: With white text on a black background
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Thank you. I tried that last night, but it didn't work. Probably user error
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I will try again
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Just try ColourNote("","","Target: " .. %1) and add in colors after the fact. It should work fine :)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: or just use Note but that's no fun.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: not .. %1 though...
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: "Target: %1"
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Got it
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I mean either would work...
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I'm not doing something right. It's just sending %1 and the ColourNote text to the variable
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: cat
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: oops
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ignore it if you want, but Cheesy Anssett actually meows at Smittens!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: may have to check expand variables
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: It is checked. It is able to set the value of the variable. It's just including everything
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: cause you need to send to: script for this to work
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Let me try
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I'm not sure how to get it to set the variable that way. Sorry, I'm a little new. Normally, from what I've read, you have to set it to variable for it to write to it
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I'll take a look though
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: "send to" dialog below the big send textbox
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Yeah, I see that. I had it set to Variable since I was setting variables but that isn't right, I don't think. I tried script and now it's giving me an error about the ColourNote
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: This isn't a huge deal, it all works. I just wanted a message to appear to confirm it worked when I'm doing it
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: SetVariable("name", "value")
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I will try that
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: That was it. Thank you
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I'll remember that
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Regarding url encode, Are you referring to url escape? url = require 'socket.url' --> url.escape(str) will turn "This is something" to "This%20is%20something"
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If it is what I think it is, then: socket = require 'socket' url = require 'socket.url' and then using url.escape on any url.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh lol. I forgot about the whole other luasocket directory 
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: is there some way of preventing themed_miniwindows from flickering on redraw?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: oh, I didn't notice this set_text method :P
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: are you deferring the update until after you've made all your changes?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I was doing window:clear(); window:add_text(text)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I assume window:set_text(text) will be better
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you pass false to the clear function then it won't try to draw again immediately
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: oh, neat
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: likewise with add_text
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you can clear, add all your text, and then call draw manually
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: what's the call for draw?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: window:draw()
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Easy-DIY-Miniwindows#if-you-set-draw_after-to-false-and-later-want-to-draw-the-additions-call
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: hmm. There's a way to clear output without using trigger ommit option? or is this something else?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: "clear" output as in erase the entire main screen?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: in my 2020 version of themed_miniwindows.lua, clear doesn't appear to have any parameters, is it an addition within the last few years?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: ah
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Sath: I don't care enough to answer that. feel free to update
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: so no way to easily errase just one line without using the trigger otpion
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: sorry. My typing
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: so no way to easily erase just one line without using the trigger option
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Lejaguar technically you can remove any line from output, it just might be more or less convoluted depending on which line you want to remove
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: ah
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: fine, it does appear to be an addition within the last couple years. I'll have to find some other solution that allows for backwards compatibility
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: why not update?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: because I want to distribute this plugin to others who may not be on a new version of mushclient or want to update
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yikes. good luck.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's better for everyone if you tell them to update though
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it's not because they won't
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish comforts Sath.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you can try manually halting the repaint buffer plugin
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: there's a call for that
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I think I can probably just clear the textrect directly
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: which won't invoke a draw
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: maybe. beware of side effects.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you need, you can use CallPlugin to invoke the pause and resume functions in https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/worlds/plugins/aard_repaint_buffer.xml
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: just don't leave it hanging for too long, you know?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: ok, thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: my code basically never uses redraw or repaint unless I think it's necessary to work around a weird bug in mushclient. I always invoke CallPlugin("abc1a0944ae4af7586ce88dc", "BufferedRepaint"), and the pause will block that from taking effect
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: guinness? does it work for you now? anyone flickering still?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: appreciate the help
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: sure thing
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: sorry people don't like updating
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I know it probably makes things a lot harder for you
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: IMO you should tell them that though
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: lean on their desire to have you make things to get them to make your life easier
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: part of it is that I'm not even necessarily involved in the installation of my plugin. So if they install it while I'm not around and it doesn't work, they move on with their life
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: so where possible I aim for backwards compatibility
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: pretty much everything I do is backwards compatible. It's just not forward compatible.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: your forward compatiblity is my backward compatibility :P
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: yeah... that's why my plugins are like !!! PLUGIN REQUIRES MUSH CLIENT r2245 or LATER !!!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I think I've made one backwards incompatible change ever and that was when S&D broke that one time, but people moved on and fixed their broken thing and everything got better
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: not counting accidents of course
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyway, I know what you mean re my forwards is your backwards, because your plugin is a consumer of the framework 
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but the position does kinda stick you with reimplementing things I've already implemented for you
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: luckily, in this case it was just a single line fix that *definitely* won't have any side effects with any future version of themed_miniwindows, like, for sure ;)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: just don't edit the lua file and you're _probably_ ok?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Rendering of xterm truecolor is very well supported. But I understand the concern about official client support.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Just throwing it out there.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: rendering is not sufficient
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: people rely on being able to convert back and forth
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Athlau nods at 1337 H4x0r Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it only works because I wrote the code for it
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Well, if it is a thing that could be explored on the test port serverside, you do not necessarily need to be the person to update aardwolf_colors.lua
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ok but seriously
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: I would rather see restrictions on string length not include color codes so we could color as we wished with the limits of the string itself affected
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish nods at Selitos.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: same
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I don't think those are mutually exclusive? They are complementary if anything.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: 256 colors seem enough but with the 4 chars it takes to use xterm it makes it tough to use for restricted strings
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: lol imagine if the length limit stayed the same and color codes suddenly took 15 characters hahahaha. Ok you can use any color you want but only one of them
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: apart from very much not wanting to do the work to support a new color mechanism, I also don't really see the need for more than the 6x6x6 color cube plus umpteen greys
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I'm actually suprised about that since you've expressed some interest in things like color animation, etc elsewhere.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: But it was just an idea :)