T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauric Tech: is there a site with additional plugins for MUSHClient?
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I've collected all the ones I know of on Aard Central.
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: aardcentral.github.io
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: People are free to suggest others to add, too, but I that I've gotten most of the known contributors.
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can also read through 'help www' for a list of other helpful sites.
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauric Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: im running mush through virtualbox and having trouble getting media to sound through my physical speakers. It's not just MUSH, youtube also wont play. From what I've googled, looks like I have everything correct. Any thoughts?
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: Tipro - been a while since I've fiddled with virtualbox, but you might check the settings to make sure you've got a sound driver assigned?
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: Most of the time I'm dealing with virtualization, it's Hyper-V and I don't care about sound <_<
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: Blogpost from LastPass CEO an hour ago reads like the idiot at the blackjack table who'll say "hit me" at dual 19s (probably split on 7s, seems about a product managers level of competence)
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: but mushambo, i'm a product manager
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: there is still no mention of any restitution payments to customers thoug
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: are you a CEO in charge of passwords for millions of folks and keep lying to your customers? 
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: anyone know why dinv won't equip my helm of true sight even though I set high priorities for detectinvis and detecthidden in this level range?
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: not sure, but maybe the priority should be for true sight rather than the individual? 
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: what level range did you set for your help?  You are T9 so you would have 90 added to the level range -- it wouldn't be 1-10 for example.
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Priory level ranges go from level 1 to 291
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepsi Tech: hello, how can i add open door before going to next room in mapper?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: mapper cexit op w;w
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: sorry, mapper cexit op w;;w
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepsi Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: dadgummit, dinv keeps losing my container organize queries. anyone else seen this? every couple days i have to reapply the commands
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: do you put the containers down or give them away at any point?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: Ooh, wait. This might be embarassing. Does death count?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: if you die and you have to loot your body, you also need to dinv refresh all after you've got all your stuff back
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: you need to refresh on death yes, but it shouldn't wipe the organize details unless you refresh without them on you
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: Hmmmmmm. I'm not doing a refresh *on purpose*, I don't think. Is there any chance dinv fires one off of its own accord, possibly fencing/omitting it?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: it does refresh automatically on a regular basis unless you turn that off
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: Got it. Thanks, I can work with this.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: but you will want to do a refresh all as soon as you've looted yourself, in general :p otherwise portals and potions don't work if you use em through dinv
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Neeper is agreeing with that Cheesy Anssett person again...
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: yeah i've learned that lesson
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: we all have
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: fyi figured out what I did that was messing up dinv... my priority had actual levels rather than tier/equipment levels for that range.. so I was already "out of it" when starting a remort
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: re: why isn't dinv equipping my helm of true sight
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I must have just missed you yesterday when you asked :p  --> [01 Mar 20:06:21] Durel Tech: what level range did you set for your help?  You are T9 so you would have 90 added to the level range -- it wouldn't be 1-10 for example.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: for mine I set detect invis/detect hidden to 999 for 1 to 91
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kuppik Tech: heya I'm not sure. Is it possible to update blowtorch mapper database with mushclient mapper database? I already have a lot mapped there.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Possible, maybe. Depends on how Blowtorch stores its mapper data. If it's in similar fashion, then you can migrate it over.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If it's drastically different, you may have issues.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'd say ask Shindo, but he's been MIA since October.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kuppik Tech: I see, thanks a lot! :) I might try toying with it until he comes around
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: @Durel thanks.. that's essentially what was the issue
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: had like a 1-21 range I had setup, which of course I was out of from the start
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hey, does the mud do unicode yet? can we do emojis
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: does mushclient have like a notes window, where you can leave yourself notes?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Window -> New Window.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or... maybe not that way.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no that was awful
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It was, I agree.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I'd make a note never to do that again but I still don't have anywhere to make notes
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj starts slamming his head into a drum repeatedly.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It actually does open up a notepad, but appears to be a bug.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: the main mushclient site has a plugin list which contains a notepad
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you go to Window, you'll see Window 2 Notepad.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But there's window 3, which is dumb.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: obvious solution is obvious.  linux plugin for mush.  use vim.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I mean MUSHclient should basically become a modern day emacs at this point
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: no! emacs is the word processor of the devil.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Surely you mean vi vi vi, number of the beast
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: back in the day I was a big emacs fan
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So the notepad window just resides in window - Notepad, and you can switch to it. But if you're looking for one you can just type into while playing Aard, only thing I can thing of is an edit box.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: these days I just use notepad++ and vscode on windows, and nano on linux
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: vscode + sumneko lua language server + orphean's mushclient language definitions works real well for mushclient plugin development, I'm finding
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: lol since my family has a microsoft subscription, I just end up using microsoft visual studio instead of vscode....
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: full visual studio is kinda too heavyweight for something like this though
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: like, sure, if I'm developing a full on c# app I'll want the full fat studio
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: hehe, must have all the bells and whistles
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but for mushclient plugins it's overkill
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, I just use vscode for it.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i don't know if full vs even has lua support rofl
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hell, you can even put VScode on the cloud.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: also that, what anssett said
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: though to be fair, i code most of plugins on notepadd++
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I'm glad you found it useful Danj
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj thanks Orphean heartily.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I like having the completion and lack of vscode yelling at me :P
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: there's still a few bits missing, btw
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Oh well I'll be happy to add them.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: but for python and pytorch stuff, i find that my jank visual studio setup is working pretty well...only problem is my computers don't have gpu for cuda...
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I still get some yellow wavy lines on some of the bits in my plugins
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Just let me know
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: you have a github, right?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I'll post an issue there
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: finger me, yueah
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Orphean: I want some musclient language definitions, too.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: crowley: https://github.com/aardorphean/mushclient-client-declarations
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: They should be included in the official client install at some point. I made Fiendish a github workflow he can use to generate and include it automatically.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I saw.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Very nice, Orphean.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: so what can you do with orphean's language definitions to pull mush api into vscode? I've never done stuff that is this involved, so any simple examples?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Well if you're using the most popular Lua plugin for VSCode you just have to drop mushclient_definitions.lua into your library include path. The repo has a simple example of how I have configured it.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I'm happy to help too.\
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: i guess i mean why do we need mushclient api globals? I feel like most plugin things aren't that complicated?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Well you don't need them :)
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: or how do they help, like is there a plugin that uses them as an example i can learn from/look at?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: They just inform the language server that these functions exist and there are the parameters they accept.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: ah so help with compiler stuff?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: So rather than displaying a squiggly yellow line saying its an undefined global you get completion, etc for it.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: got it, hehe yeah i can see why notepad++ won't be affected, so makes it much more like an actual program language
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: Having some issue with the mapper. It complained about not having a default room set for an area, so I manually used runto and xset mark. Reset back to recall and tried to xrt to the area, and the mapper says there's no default start room. I guess my question would be, is there maybe a debug mode i could enable, idk where to begin troubleshooting the black-box
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: xset commands are s&d not mapper 
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: which snd are you using?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: 5.99
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: crowley/pwar/something ancient?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: Authored by Crowley, according to the banner
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: oh hey, that banner has a tip about xset index areas
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i'm guessing that it may be dependent on the area you're trying to run to as well
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: ah you're lev 6 so it isn't something goofy like planes
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: chaprenula, in this case
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: SHOULD be straightforward pathing, right?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: and you're doing an xrt lab?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: but yeah no cexits in that path
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: xrt lab does work. the runto is chaprenula which threw me off. still doesn't explain why snd didn't recognize the area despite my visiting it multiple times and running an index. but one problem at a time
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i htink rt does some interpretation on where you want to run on name matching, and snd does not
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: regardless, the "correct" keyword in snd for Chaprenula is lab, afaik
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i do not know how you would add more keywords for areas
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i believe snd uses "mapper areas" for the names....
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it may
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: that would make sense
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: It depends on the version, xrt chaprenula works for Pwar's for instance.  Not sure how Crowley's works with xrt/areas personally.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: it's been having problems with dortmund, lab, amusement, and....pet store? I haven't gotten to that one yet
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: even after visiting the area, snd won't update even after reloads and manual reindexes
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: as far as i know, there is no "correct" way to change area keywords in crowley's snd
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: try typing mapper areas
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: you can xset mark (aliasword) << without ()
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: there maybe triggers based on that
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: I did, but it seems to be unsorted. At 241 areas mapped, that's pretty hard
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: the area I'm standing in right this second doesn't seem o be on the list though
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: what area
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: fwiw, I think I figured out the problem I was having with snd and the mapper. These low level zones all had speedwalks that amounted to `runto 3e3s3w3n
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: ding dang semicolons
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: fwiw, I think I figured out the problem I was having with snd and the mapper. These low level zones all had speedwalks that amounted to `runto 3e3s3w3n;custom action`, which the mapper didn't pick up on, so it naturally did not have a route to that area. Once I examined the raw speedwalk I was able to identify the problem
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: ah! so "custom action" got put into the runto and custom is invalid ?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: is there a better way to turn on/off sounds than renaming the sound folder? :)
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: spmute?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: where does the white go when the snow melts my mushclient...
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: will that turn off all sounds across all scripts?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: no just the soundpack. you want all sounds off?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the white hides from the rain with the birds
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yeah, like when i am on a zoom call :) I just rename the sounds folder as my fix
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: ctrl-alt-b?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: zhalut: do you background mushclient or still playing?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: is this a real question? NO ONE is active in zoom call. 
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: hmmm, it's a foreground in a second screen but generally not playing when i turn off sound -- really letting the quest timer tick down
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you can stop sound playing with ctrl-alt-b
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm, but not permanently
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I think that only stops sounds that are active at the time
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you keep mushclient backgrounded, you can disable playing sounds while in the backround
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: interesting. how do we disable sounds while MUSH is in the background?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: aard sounds in background
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but off while backgrounded is the default setting
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so if you didn't change that then it should already be off while backgrounded
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: i forgot.. what is the command to turn these off: {skillgain}185,90
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fachtna, type 'tags' to see all the options. For your particular one, it's tags skillgains off
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: thank you :)
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish: Does this behavior happen to you? Go to Window -> New Window. When I did that yesterday, it created a Notepad window AND a second, smaller Aardwolf window.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: My main was still in Window 1, so I could close out 3, but... it shouldn't be creating new Aardwolf windows, I feel.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what is it that you expect new window to do?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mine does not create a notepad, only a second aardwolf window
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: mine created a very small new window... =(
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: are you sure it's creating the notepad and not just exposing an existing one?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Mine created a notepad AND a second Aardwolf window. But Danj was looking for notepad options in Mushclient yesterday.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'll double check.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the VI review buffers and command capture plugins both create notepads
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Stormwind: If you go to Window -> and your second Aardwolf window, you can close that out. Then go to 1, and maximize it.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm, it did not open up a notepad window this time, but I'm not sure when I ever opened one up before. Interesting.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, disregard, then. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyway, the Window menu is probably from Win32 MFC and not really set there by MUSHclient. It would be better to just not have a new window entry at all.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: odd it iddnt open a new window, closed my original and open a new smaller window.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the idea of a new window doesn't make any sense
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: For some reason, I had thought it opened up a notepad window. And now I see why - it's under Edit, not Window.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's unlikely that danj wants manually invoked notepads. AppendToNotepad, ReplaceNotepad, SendToNotepad, NotepadReadOnly, etc functions seem more up his alley
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: He wanted notepad to keep track of some things (likely trigger lines, etc) without having to switch to an external notepad, I believe.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that's...uh...silly, though. switching to another program is actually faster than switching to mushclient's notepad
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, I switch to VSCode all the time. That was my understanding of what he wanted, though I could be totally off-base.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyway, I found a forum thread with Nick defending the existence of the New Window menu option, so I won't try to remove it from the executable. Just know for the future I guess that I don't think it's a good idea and that it doesn't work well here.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not working well here is an understatement. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I mean...
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so it would probably work fine without the main layout plugin
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: and it's possible that I could fix the layout for the specific scenario
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: even likely
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I don't think it's worth it to do so though.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the issue is that the window resize events from the OS come through....uh...how to put it...very very very stupidly
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so you have to ignore them until they settle when creating new windows. which I do during plugin startup, but not during this
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I have a thread about this on the forum somewhere. maybe I can find it
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=11228
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that's one
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: here's the other one https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=11952
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: which is a repeat of https://gammon.com.au/forum/?id=11226
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: ... That does seem rather excessive on resize count.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so the problem with other windows is that the GetInfo storage for window metrics only appears to know about the primary window, so if you switch over to the other one suddenly no matter how you resize the window the values for GetInfo(280), GetInfo(261), GetInfo(263), GetInfo(281), GetInfo(262), GetInfo(264) are all just static
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I could try using 249 and 250, but then I'll have to do a bunch of math to subtract other metrics out
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Danj also asked, by the way, if MUSHclient/Aardwolf supports unicode so he can do emojis on Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: pleasesaynopleasesaynopleasesayno
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: aardwolf does not
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Neeper jumps high into the air shouting out, "WOOHOO!"
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: would emojis help attract Gen-Z players???
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient probably doesn't either
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but aardwolf definitely does not
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: aardwolf supports some but not all of Latin1
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: is there a complete chart/list somewhere?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure it's possible to send small y with a dieresis
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: ?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: byte 255 in the latin1 table
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, I just sent Alt+0255. It shows up on command line, but at least with my font, does not show in the window.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It will, however, do i: ï
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if danj wants faces he'll have to do them the old way. ©¿©¬
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But where's the smile?!
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: below the line
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korasca Tech: on the topic of variables and calling them in aliases/triggers, once I've defined one (using 'variables' dialog in GUI), how do I reference it in the alias string?  I looked in online help and I wasn't able to divine out the method.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Greybeard Tech: with @w
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Greybeard Tech: @
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Greybeard Tech: so if your variable is weapon, you call it with @weapon
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Greybeard Tech: make sure expand variable is checked
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: anyone know what the format is for generating plugin ID's? just a 24 character hex string? does it have any guard rails etc
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Neeper, just go to Edit -> Generate Unique ID.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_unique_identifier
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Save yourself all the trouble.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: also what crowley said
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korasca Tech: brilliant.  i knew it was simple.  should have done this a long time ago - i've been editing aliases every time i change primary/second weapons - through my entire first tier.  :-\
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korasca Tech: thanks for the help.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh, lol, I used powershell to generate myself a guid and took the first 12 bytes
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: didn't know there was a menu option for it
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers with Tech Bloke Danj about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: mushclient script development question: how do I save/load some configuration that I don't want to hardcode in my plugin?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Elaborate?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can save it to the state files with SetVariable()
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: State files usually
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you want to create a config table, you can do SetVariable("varName", serialize.save("varname"))
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Then you can assert(loadstring(GetVariable("varname"))) ()
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: well, I was thinking this weekend I might have a go at making that Bing plugin I mentioned, just for shits and giggles, but obviously I won't want to hardcode my own API key in there, so I need to provide a way for the user to save their own and for the plugin to load that
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh yeah, definitely save it as a state file.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Yeah So you would have some config command alias where the user provides their API key. Then use Set/GetVariable as Crowley described :)
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah I was gonna do like "bingconfig apikey YOUR_API_KEY_HERE" or something
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, you can have the plugin check for the existence of a variable with GetVariable. If it doesn't exist yet, you can prompt the user to provide an API key that will save to a variable. Once it's been collected, you can do SetVariable("apiKey", apiKey) and it'll save it to the state file.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can do something like this: function OnPluginInstall() if not GetVariable("apiKey") then apiKey = utils.inputbox("What is your API key?", "Query", "", "Courier", 9) SetVariable("apiKey", apiKey) else apiKey = GetVariable("apiKey") end
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Then 'end' for the function. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can even shorten it to this: function OnPluginInstall() if not GetVariable("apiKey") then SetVariable("apiKey", utils.inputbox("What is your API key?", "Query", "")) end apiKey = GetVariable("apiKey") end
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nice, thanks!
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I wrote a plugin that scans your output for plugin tracebacks and outputs the script context: https://i.imgur.com/LcILK6q.png, get it the plugin here: https://sethbling.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/Downloads/Aardwolf/plugins/traceback_context.xml
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: oo
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Sath you absolute legend
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Thank you
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: your aws container is named sethbling?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it is
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: boy that brought back some minecraft youtube memories
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: <-- sethbling
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you'll want to right click->save as if you open that link in a browser
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: pretty terribad from my limited experience
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: well thatw as mis lol
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Sath: why OnPluginTick?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: is there a reason not to?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: seemed easier than making a timer
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: timer for what?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: checking the output window for changes
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: (also you don't need to use the DoAfterSpecial to reload another plugin. only for a plugin to reload itself.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: that doafterspecial is for the plugin reloading itself
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh, duh, of course
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I've just started looking at it. I guess I don't understand why you're using a timer?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: the plugin regularly checks the output window for new runtime errors, and if it finds one it grabs the scripting context and displays it
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I see
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: there is also a callback for when output is written to the screen if you want
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but now I understand
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: does it get called for things like runtime errors?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: probably? :)
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: what's the callback?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: OnPluginScreendraw
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I'll take a look, thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: there's also OnPluginDrawOutputWindow
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yeah, OnPluginScreenDraw works
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: weirdly, it runs before the newline is outputted to the window, so Noting anything draws to the same line
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm trying to find the forum thread that talks about how the display is updated and when the different callbacks happen
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: looks like this now: https://i.imgur.com/37ns3UD.png
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: code is a lot cleaner
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: here's the new version: https://sethbling.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/Downloads/Aardwolf/plugins/traceback_context.xml
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I guess now there'll be an infinite loop if someone how include a line in your script file near the error that looks like a runtime error :P
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I'm gonna call that a "won't fix" :P
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: oh, no there won't cause the line number is prepended
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: now if only I could do something similar for parse errors :P
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: will it do .lua modules also?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: nope
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: but the line numbers in include files are sane
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: fair
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: so you can just go look at the source anyway
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you don't want to just fix mushclient itself so it gives more sane line numbers for plugin errors? :)
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: lua isn't very stringlist (single array not table) friendly huh? :(
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: an array is just a one dimensional table
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: >.>
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: an array is a table with numeric indices
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: sequential numeric indices, I suppose
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: you're right, lua lets you have sparse arrays for cheap
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: i got something like this items = { "apple", "orange", "pear", "banana" }, and i wana print 1 of the items, or add/insert, but print gives whole list, and tprint says not a talbe....
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: how are you calling tprint?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: yo fiend
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: wait
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: actually
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if print shows the list, then it's not a list
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's a string
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: how is the last character entering a room coded?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: which is why tprint isn't working
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: an array is just disarray without the dis
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Kerith: the problem is definitely not what you think it is with that description. can you post a snippet of the code?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: is that ^ not how you create a list? am i missing something? items = { "apple", "orange", "pear", "banana" }...and how i'm calling tprint tprint(tempkeri)
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ahh i think it was wear i was defining the array, i had it in 'global' variables section, soon as i moved it to alias where i wanted to use it it works
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that suggests to me that you might be reusing the same variable name in multiple places?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: shake, just made this, working in a plugin file. if that items{} is in "variable" section, and i try calling it from a plugin, it just hates me, but if i move it inside the alias for decliration it works (tprint)
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the gauges in mushclient (health mana moves tnl etc), is there a way I can change their colour from a script?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you mean the ones in gauges.lua?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: uhh, maybe? they show up at the bottom of my mushclient window
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh those
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I want to be able to change TNL colour dynamically at certain points
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: not in miniwindow?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no, I think they are, it's just a very thin one
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hang on lemme do a screenshot
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: right-click on it. do you get a popup menu?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: https://imgur.com/a/FXPs4lU
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that's one of my plugins
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I was thinking I'd like TNL to change colour at 50% and 25%
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: trying to do a campaign every level
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and it would be useful to have a visual reminder to turn noexp on
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm. not many people want anything other than HP to change color
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: if you're using s&d ... and you 100% are... just use xset noexp 400 or so
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I mean, I'm not suggesting it should be like that for everyone, I just wanted to know if it's possible
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh.
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: cool
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nevermind then
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: does s&d work for gq?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's one of the uglier plugins, but if you want to add menu options for setting thresholds for mana/moves/exp you can
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'd accept a PR
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: pretty niche desire though so I'd probably never get around to doing it myself
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: mines is stuck on cp list, how do i make it show gq monsters?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no, uhh, athlau has neatly bypassed the need for that
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: thanks though!
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: can I make the enemy bar turn rainbow colors at every (total hp) % 7 == 0?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: how would I do that with that plugin?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj cackles gleefully at 9th Tier Yajan.
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 9th Tier Yajan ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: yajan i can... you... i dunno
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: same man.. same..
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: going to bed
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmm, anyone know how I would go about adding an additional option for timestamp format for the Communication Log miniwindow in mushclient?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: right click think you can fix it in a bunch of ways there
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah the option I want isn't on that list
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: which is why I was wondering how I can add things to that
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Submit requests to Fiendish on what options you would like added.
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj nods at (Aleister) Crowley.
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish also will take pull requests if you fork and modify things. You'll want to dig into the chat capture plugin, though, and learn how to change it there.
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think searching for 'timestamp' will help.
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Actually, search for date_format.
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Once you find date_format, you'll see how the menu is structured and how you can add more date_format options.
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: found it, I've submitted a feature request on fiendish's github
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: so this is not an Aard question - but my laptop keyboard seems to be failing key by key
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: like only specific keys keep failing. Does this mean I have water in there or something? is this even a thing? it feels like a fever dream right now
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: but if one of the alphbet keys fail, then my laptop is done
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightness Jasnah Tech: I've seen that happen with water. are they failing quickly? have you restarted since it started?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: if it has usb ports you can use a usb keyboard until getting it fixed
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I'm trying to make a fractal plugin. Can someone explain why this reg expression isn't working?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: ^\*\*\*       The weave is calm again.       \*\*\*$
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: to match on: 
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: ***       The weave is calm again.       ***
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: I'd simplify it and just drop the stars
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: nod, good point
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: don't need the exact line
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: In theory, someone could be malicious and trigger it on purpose. But...wait, actually, human players could still manually emit stars
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i wouldn't recommend dropping anchors..
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: why not red?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: How would you do it?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: could misfire?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: yeah, dropping anchors makes me nervous in general, haha
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Hmm how
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I guess someone could say it on a channel
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: it'll fire if someone else asks about "The weave is calm again."
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: *** The Weave is calm again ***
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: See? anchors don't help
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: now, making the plugin only trigger while inside the fractal zone? that'd be the play
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the regexp you put should work btw
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: anchors tie it to the beginning of the line so it can't be triggered by channels or something else
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it wouldn't fire with the ^ and $ anchors
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I will include an alias to turn the plugin on and off
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: because you have "Dolvos Tech" in its which would not match
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: yeah, i follow what you mean by anchors now
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: are you sure you have regexp ticked on?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: how do I check if I do?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: it's just the checkbox
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: nodnod
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: works now, thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: https://regex101.com/r/zpb4a3/1 yeah i got it working here
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: oops, too late
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: How do you make a table listing the commands of the plugin?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: When you type "fractal help" or whatever
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: so far, it looks like by hand
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: nod
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: all the help strings i've seen are hardcoded
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: yeah, hardcoded
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: in theory, you could...create tables that contain docstrings+functions, and iterate over a table containing those, and dynamically build your help output
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: probably not worth the effort
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: can you reset somehow your mapper?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: my big map is not working :(
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: reload plugin for it?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you do not reset your mapper
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: one does not simply reload their mapper
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: bigmapper is different plugin and you can just reset it
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: plugin lookin' good
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radrat Tech: anyone using docker ?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: in a few ways, sure
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radrat Tech: when i create a new container, if i used single quotes around stuff it creates the container and starts it for like 2/3 seconds and then stops running - when i use double quotes i have not issues just wondering if anyone knows why ?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: when you say single quotes do you mean ' or `
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Aurelia Tech: hello best people of mush, how do I change my world name?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: did you try deleting your world file?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: jokes on you, I'm the worst people of mush
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Aurelia Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: please don't do that
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: what do you mean "world name"
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Aurelia Tech: too late
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: like Aurelia?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Aurelia Tech: no
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Aurelia Tech: somehow it got renamed to "drop 1 coin" and so it's messing up some plugins
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Aurelia Tech: i have to get it back to being named aardwolf, but I don't even know how it got to be named drop 1 coin
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Aurelia Tech: wait! fixed it!
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: plugins are sending gmcp commands as regular mud commands.. how do i fix this?
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it seems that with utils.compress/decompress, compressed data doesn't survive the round trip through a MUSH variable. Anyone have any success compressing data for MUSH variables?
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sephi Tech: what file holds the windows' info? size, position, etc..
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: How to turn off Epics talk in main window in Mushclient, but not in communication log?
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: you can turn any channel off temperarily if you like?
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Girthy Redwood Tech: just type the channel name
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: chatter has to hit your main window to show up in the com log
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: I know but only epics go to my main game windo in MUSHClient
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: channel *off 30 for example will just silence it for 30 minutes
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Girthy Redwood Tech: same
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: might be able to set a gag trigger for the main window.  not sure if that would also gag the comms window.
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I think it would..
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: but I'm not a good source on that.
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: mmm.  i suppose you could set the priority of the gag trigger so it fires _after_ the comm-window plugin... no idea how, tho.
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: It's only Epics talk which show up in main window also. Everything else goes to communication log window
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: There's an option in MUSH - "Echo to main window settings"?
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: Still half asleep, not sure if that's the solution for you ;p
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: then it sounds like you already have a plugin that's gagging channels from the main window
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: default behavior is to display them in main win AND preserve them in commlog
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: is there an idiotproof (i.e., me ) way to OCR import PDF text with some layout preferences? lots of haikus (1 line each) but then there's the three authors as line four in each, i'd like to be able to search by name of collaborators, even if they're not all in order? 
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cannot you just extract text from PDF ?
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: well i can copy paste, but if i want to group every fourth line by asterik delimeter, but not necessarily in order?
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: i'll do it analog style like a chump as always
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you wanted to OCR?  = optical character recognition  which is: convert image to text
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so if you can copy-paste then you do not need to OCR it
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: c/pasting from the pdf isnt working , groups the whole row (which is two haiku, 3 authors each) together as one
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: anyone know why Wayfarer's Caravan is unknown to snd
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: is it one of those rooms that cant be mapped?
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it got renamed and that's prob breaking things if you haven't ever fixed it
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: it changed name (relativelY 0recently, that might be it
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: how do i fix it anssett?!
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: xset areas index
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: run to caravan (not xrt), then xset mark
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: runto caravan, mapper purge the room, leave and re-enter also works i think
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: any of those should work ^
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett p
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: snd target still red :(
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: https://i.imgur.com/7t3Hm7R.png something seems off, dinv isn't eliding invdata tags the way i'm assuming it should. 
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: any mush pro around
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: nope
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: ok Athlau u then! i accidentally did someting.. now my output window (where i type) is bolded. the text are bolded as i type
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: input box you mean?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: yes input box
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: alt+0 and change font options?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: not there
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: but thanks for helping! I will try again when fiendish or crowley is awake
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: no idea what you mean not there tbh... can't find font settings there or?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: Fiendish you around?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Did you change the font of your output window, Macbeth?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Game -> Configure -> Commands, check the font there.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, you already checked there.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: i had a big problem the entire afternoon (asian time). but.. i did a restart.. all's good now.. 
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: i cant believe that wasnt my first thought. stupid me
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: what was your first thought?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: "trace back" what i did
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: oh mushclient questions, great
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not for you, Evl!
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: what? why? my questions are the best
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: is there a dark mode for mushclient?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dr. Evl peers intently at 1337 H4x0r Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i think he lied about mushclient question time
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: how do i get xrt chantry to work?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The best you can get is changing your own theme, but the application itself does not have a 'dark mode'.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: rt chantry, xset mark when you get there
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You have to initially run there manually.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: there's a cexit in the path so yo umay need to add it
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i did that anssett
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You need the cexit for sure.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i forgot the command to show the path
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: echocommand will prob do what you need
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: speedwalks chantry
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: or yeah that would also work haha
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: thanks crowley!
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i do like dark modes
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what does dark mode mean in this context?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: i guess he meant themes?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: you know, when programs get all emo and start complaining about life and such
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: To me, dark mode would involve changing the toolbars to dark. But that's a Windows thing, and you have to manually change the toolbars, I think, in Windows (or the OS, anyway).
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: yeah its mostly the toolbars that are too cheery
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i do have the dark theme for windows, it doesnt change mushclient though
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: it also doesnt read any vogon poetry to me, so i am dissapointed by windows in general
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient supports XP themes but not Windows 10+ styles
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: ah thatll do it
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: to be fair xp themes are probably still buried somewhere in the mountain of legacy nonsense still in windows
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: remind me how to reset layout (for 100x time, sorry). aard layout reset or something?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: aard help. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: i thought thats what this channel was
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But yes, aard layout reset.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: or aard layout help, anyway.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: think i might have old version of mush hrm
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: resetaard if you have an old version
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Update. :P
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: last time i tried to update mush i lost all my shit and almost quit game :P
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Backup. Then update. You shouldn't lose anything, though.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: don't blame Mush for losing anything but keys
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: updating these days is quite a bit simpler than it used to be
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: any idea why clicking on links to mapped unmapped in chakra is sending me to titan?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: seems to be a weird mapper bug
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroh Tech: manually walk the route, see if you have weird cexits put in.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoyalFlush Kelaire Tech: I wonder if it has anything to do with that note earlier that stated something about that area reusing an old areas room numbers ... or something to that extent (my reading comprehension isn't great some days)
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: That's a different area
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i tried mapper where <roomid in chakra>, and it's telling me to go to titan
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: did you index the area?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: is that the closest way to run for you?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no, it's telling me to go to titan, and say bring me in
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sending me straight to level 3 lol
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what's the reused room id issue?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: That's Chantry
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoyalFlush Kelaire Tech: Chantry...chakra....close enough
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: multiple platforms (LinkedIn, Google, etc) I receive messages that say Traffic was interrupted ("Problem on our end")...is this new error message language for 404? Or should Yosemite Sam visit my computer and router?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] SonnyQuinn Tech: ho do i change xset to autohunt when im in a maze area?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: snd help for all commands
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: xset mode is what you are looking for
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: err
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: xcp mode
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: i forgot the letter code, maybe its xcp mode ah?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: ahh check xhelp xcp mode
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: and just to answer it completely you're looking for 'xcp mode ht'
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] SonnyQuinn Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Busta Rhymes gallantly tips his hat to [DEMON] SonnyQuinn.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: someone get bill gates on the line, we need to be able to rename a file name without closing the word doc
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: im confident this idea can make him rich
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: yeah, every other OS has had concurrent file acess for decades
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: yeah exactly
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torkin looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: wow. when did it get so hard to find a decent keyboard with a context menu button instead of a FN button >.<
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Cool. I finally completed the plugin that Selitos asked for, which is when you do 'note list' or 'note unread', it hyperlinks the note number so you can click on it to read.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'll have to upload it in the near future, but for now, I get to go home.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I like the implication that selitos is holding you hostage so you can't go home until you've finished their plugin
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ingenue Alison flicks her whip across (Aleister) Crowley's bare back. 
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: oh sweet let us know when its ready  :)
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj cackles gleefully at Ingenue Alison.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, I think I made it smart enough that if you aren't updated enough as far as the snapshots for AardMUSH goes (or if you don't have the appropriate file), it'll unload itself and tell you that you aren't updated.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It does require the "wrapped_captures" file, so...
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly at Ingenue Alison.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Actually, https://raw.githubusercontent.com/AardCrowley/Aardwolf-Scripts/master/HyperlinkNote.xml -- Selitos (anyone, really), you can copy the raw from there and see if it works for you.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And let me know if it breaks anything otherwise.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In the meantime, I'm off to home!
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm. Hyperlinks, despite sending \\\Execute(command), does not actually trigger the alias.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or so it seems.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ooh, now it seems to... work. Interesting.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: any off-the-shelf solution for dumping items to JSON?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Impoved the HyperlinkNote plugin from before. I suggest you upgrade to the one on the tech board, if anyone grabbed the earlier version.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: why would one need a plugin for that :)
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: do enough clan admin crap ath
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: you'll want it
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Selitos had requested a plugin that would hyperlink the note numbers for an easier 'click and read'. So, I accommodated that request. I also threw in my Note Window plugin (well, combined them) so the notes display separately.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: ahh... think i posted him a trigger for same thing a while back
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I may change the hyperlink to be on the subject instead of the number, though. Or maybe both.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satomi Tech: in SND, instead of clicking on "go", "kk", "nx", etc is there a command we can enter/type instead?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: you could make aliases to do those commands...
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Statue of Servus Tech: i would try typing those commands
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satomi Tech: oh geez, i had no idea those were actually the commands... thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Statue of Servus Tech: yw
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satomi Tech: is there a default command for each line of mob targets (instead of clicking on them)?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Statue of Servus Tech: not a mush user but i think nx is next target
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: 'nx' is 'next room' in the room list, not 'next target'. But you can do 'xcp' to target the top target, or 'xcp #' to select a different target.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satomi Tech: thanks crowley
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satomi Tech: is there a way to make it so SND can open doors/enter portals? or is there specifically through mapper?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: an example would be mapper cexit open w;;w
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: but yeah, in mapper not snd
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That is a mapper thing, not SnD.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Take a look at 'mapper help exits'. You'll want to utilize mapper cexit (specifically mapper cexit open north;;north, etc
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: )
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satomi Tech: but if a target is through a portal, SnD wouldnt be able to run to it?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Girthy Redwood Tech: it will use portals if you have them setup in mapper
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: SnD determines where to go and the mapper determines how to get there
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: it's all done through the mapper, snd doesn't contain the info.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: the mapper would  mapper cexit enter thatthingrighthere
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: SnD makes no movements. It merely provides the list of rooms that you can move to, which uses mapper commands.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satomi Tech: ahhh got it, i'll check out the cexit - thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: crowley: why isn't your note window resizable?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: also why doesn't it use a monospace font? lol
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, I forgot, not everyone has Bitstream (which is mono).
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And I suppose I could make it resizable.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Changed font back to default Dina. And now it's resizable.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, if you ever feel like including it into a future snapshot, don't hesitate to do so. :)
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: "MAPPER ERROR: DATABASE TABLE IS LOCKED. Retrying 10X just in case: `PRAGMA wal_checkpoint(FULL)
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: restart mush
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I think if you're going to use a default font, maybe use what the user has set as their output font?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: a locked database is bad and means that something else is misbehaving
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: yeah a restart "fixed" it but that's the first time i've ever seen that messge. seemed concerning
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's definitely not supposed to happen
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: anyone try the note window plugin and get it to work?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] SonnyQuinn Tech: no im getting there
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] SonnyQuinn Tech: lol im new to all plugins and my god there are alot on mush
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] SonnyQuinn Tech: lol im new to all plugins and my god there are alot on mush
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: I mean the one that was posted earlier by crowley on tech
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: I just installed it and when I type note or anything note related it crashes, was so lookingforward to it 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] SonnyQuinn Tech: i installed just havnt set it up yet
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] SonnyQuinn Tech: the inviter...how do i set that up
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Saraid: I wonder if the crash is related to the version you are on. I tried to do a version check to make sure you can even run it, but I couldn't test it because I have the latest version. What message appears when you try to run it?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: what does +100 -100 mean for s&d?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: haven't noticed that with snd, where are you seeing it?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's the noexp counter. If you want to not level before taking a campaign for that level, SnD will turn noexp on once you reach that number.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Bronnie: It's on the GUI window.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, on mine, it's the up arrow, anyway.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But you hover over it, it says 'left click +100, right click -100'
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Anyway, time to finish getting ready for work, including making my coffee, whee.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] SonnyQuinn Tech: screenreader how do i toggle that off?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: or just type xset noexp "amount" like crowley has written. No need for pretty things
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: How do you toggle the screeneader off? 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] SonnyQuinn Tech: which i love it being on here because my brother is going to be excited he is completely blind
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not sure how to toggle the screenreader stuff. I should learn how to do that some day.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just to help others.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Anyway, coffee is ready, and I get to leave soon.  Later!
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] SonnyQuinn Tech: lmao to turn screen reader off its literally just (sapi off)
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That was simple, then.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: how do you fix the font on that 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: these four lines: https://github.com/AardCrowley/Aardwolf-Scripts/blob/master/NoteExtender/NoteExtender.xml#L98-L101
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Did you get it working from your earlier crash, Kharpern?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: updated mush and it works but the font is butt ugly :P 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's Dina for you! (Unless you didn't update the plugin after last night).
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: should set the default to the configured output font
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: just updated it
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I will add a font-picker though, soon enough.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm, I'll have to look for that option then.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/worlds/plugins/aard_ingame_help_window.xml#L294-L295
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: doesn't work on the not updated mush though *goes and updates*
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, Fiendish, to make my life easier, what variable would I use for the snapshot version? Right now, I have a hack of "if wrapped_captures file exists, check if untagged_output is a function", and I'd rather just do: if tonumber(snapshot) > 2165 (or whatever)"
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: imms will need at least r2252 for this to work
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: because the imm echo command works differently
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: whoa, there are special mush versions for imms? 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not special mush versions.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just updated plugin information to work with Imm commands.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: wait what's new for imms? :P
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you just want the version number, use   extras = require "aard_lua_extras"  print(extras.PackageVersion())
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: "upgrade mush level to 204" should be an easter egg command
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, cool. I'll do that then. Thanks, Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: kharpern: just a few things that require the echo command to work
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: nah you don't get anything special at 204 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: like this
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: and mapper runs
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: ahh ok good 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: good thing I upgraded then :) I rarely upgrade since there isn't a lot that I change on this window
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, I've changed the plugin to use the snapshot version to compare (and checks player level as well). I've also changed it to use the user's default font. Thanks for the suggestions.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If your snapshot version is less than 2245 or if it's less than 2252 and you are level 202+, it'll fail and hopefully uninstall itself.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: thanks for the update on the note window it's awesome
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley beams with pride.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Glad it hasn't blown anyone's system up (yet).
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: oh been messing with it all day :P just needed to upgrade first then the font was weird now it's just right
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: once you are use to reading one sort of font it's hard to switch it
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I agree.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But now it'll use whatever you have in your output font (though if you change it, you'll probably need to reload the plugin).
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: thanks :) I am using the same font I used in zmud just never could change from that, tried many just never worked
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: never worked for my reading that is
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So long as you aren't using Comic Sans. I'd have to put in special code to slay yourself if you did.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: ahahha hahhaha
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: no nothing that gross
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I use a variant of comic sans
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: just courier 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: really tried all sorts of fonts never had the right feel 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you need to use GetOption not GetAlphaOption for the font height
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: \\\print(GetOption("output_font_height"), GetAlphaOption("output_font_height"))
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you're currently passing nil for the size
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, dang.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's rather inconsistent on Nick's part... AlphaOption for name, but Option for height?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: alpha for strings, option for numbers
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ah, okay, that makes sense.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, just fixed that one.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: How do I save the main window output to a file, I think it is in MudBin?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You could use MudBin's page to save it like a pastebin, but as far as saving the main output, you'll want to log session.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you're only doing a snippet, though, just copy, Ctrl+D if you want to save colors, and paste.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: I know how to highlight and Ctrl+D, but not sure where to paste it in for viewing later
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: I am trying to log the Aion2 battles, to see exactly how I messed up so I can learn from the experience.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: So having it look like it does in the main window, would be best.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Then use MudBin. I think there's even a plugin for it.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: I use a black background as well.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: http://mb.aardwolfboot.com/
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: why not enable logging and log in html+color?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Ok  Thank you   I'll see if I can figure it out.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Not sure how to
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: alt enter - > logging
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: That would be great also
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Ok  I see that window  Do I paste the Ctrl+D into the preamble window?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't think you need to put anything into it
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mine is blank
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just click the html + color, and choose your filename
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Ok  I see a location to automatically save it to a file
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i put my file as %E/logs/%Y-%m-%d.txt
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: maybe it has to be html if you want color
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: then use ctrl shift j to start logging
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: That sounds like it will be hugely helpful.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Ok, digging deeper. Will see if it comes together for me. 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Ctrl+J to start logging, what to stop?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: and to save, if that is required.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: I tested it, after hitting Crtl+J, but the text file was blank.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ctrl shift j i think? probably toggles, not clear
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: try a html file if you are logging in html
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Forgot the Shift   Trying again.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Not sure how to save a file as .html, other than manually change the .txt to .html
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yeah, that?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: It says there are 54k lines  How do I select from where I am now, moving forward?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: This has a ton of promise. Just trying to make sure I know how to do it correctly.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroh Tech: mv file.txt file.html      or on windows in a command prompt ren file.txt file.html
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: when you log, it logs incoming new text
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not a copy of what you already had
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: It says Log Session, Include 55185 lines from screen buffer in log file.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: That is in the top of the window that pops open with hitting Ctrl+Shift+J
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: right i guess then you just have to save it to a file
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: then open that file?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Maybe I could clear the output window before starting, then hit C+S+J afterward and capture all of that???
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Then open the file from File Manager to view it later.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you should be able to view the file even while your session is running
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just open it in a web browser assuming it's html?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Exactly
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't log with colors but i can't imagine it should be too different
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: I don't think so either, but it should just be a click of the button Colours, and it will help me from getting a severe migraine headache. *nod self
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: How do I clear the output screen buffer, without closing the client?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ctrl shift c
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: clear didn't work
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: That works, but the output is all one 1 line, and it has a white background. Getting close
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: open it in a browser?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: maybe you need to enable standard html pre amble / postamble, maybe it needs html tags
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Yes, tried Edge and Chrome
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Will try that also
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: That nailed it. Perfect!!!   Thank you much, greatly appreciated!
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh, crowley, I know it's extra work, but you can eliminate capturing unrelated lines with untagged_output by discarding everything at the start and end of the capture that isn't the note frame
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: only takes prefiltering the lines in addToWindow before calling add_text
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm, might be doable looking for ~... I can search for the first instance of ~~~~~ for the note, ignore the instance of table index + 5 for the second ~~~~, and look for the last ~~~~ in the note to signify end.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The problem with that will be if someone has noprefix on and someone uses ~~~~~ as a line separator.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: don't scan through. just remove from the front and from the back
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: there's no reason to count them
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: remove any lines before the first. remove any lines after the last.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm. Then... would I simply do a for loop from the back, so for i = #lines, 1, -1 do  if text="~~~~..." break end -- while storing 'i' location to use in the table?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (For the last, I mean. Front is straightforward).
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you can iterate backwards yes
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay. I can work with that. I am trying to think of any cleaner way to do that, but that should work, regardless.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: while true if the first line is ~~~~~ break else delete the first line end  and then again for last line
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: technically should do while true and #lines > 0
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: side note re the thread on that issue, something wacky is going on if you get a 3 second delay processing barely 100 lines
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: try replacing your \n with \r\n
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: maybe wine handles solo \n differently than windows does
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, not sure what it could be. I tested on a note of 100 colored lines, and no issue there... but it literally takes a couple seconds to produce the output.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sent 'friend ago', 2-3 seconds later, did the output from '\r\n'.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mine takes exactly as long as it takes to do the friend ago command on its own
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: ahh when you type note from person it doesn't do hyperlinks
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's definitely something with the script portion of it. I just changed it to 'tprint(v)', and it still had the lag. 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Saraid: Ooh, I forgot to add that!
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I need to add subj/from, too.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And note to.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'll have to try the friend ago stuff on a fresh client. I don't have any triggers firing on friend ago, no plugins... but the table output is delayed when it shouldn't be since that should be instant processing from the script level.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: just as an experiment, add a call to Repaint() at the end
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Added Repaint(), same result. Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ok remove it
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if it had worked then that would be something, but since it doesn't it sounds like you have a lot of debugging to do
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's weird that the only place it happens is on friend ago.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you enable echocommands and run the version of your test without omit, do you see the commands going through at the right time?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If I use 'friend online', it does it immediately, so there's that.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: maybe friend ago is throttled for non-imms?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: no, it's fast for me
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But that would not prevent the Simulate output from showing immediately, I would imagine. 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: that's true
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: but the simulate will only happen after the final trigger match
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: so maybe the last echo is massively delayed
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: nothing in the world should make poking at 100 lines of text take several seconds
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh, weird thought...
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you don't have smooth scrolling enabled do you?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Let me check... I probably do.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, no. Smoother and very smoother are both unticked.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: definitely do not enable very smooth, lol
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I think I need to update the splitscreen scrollback plugin to be aware of those settings, because holy smokes do they crawl
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: main output layout too probably
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hm...actually might not be anything I can do to save those settings. they're just crazy slow. should just disable them.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I made the mistake of turning them on once. They're good if you want your mudding experience to be like slow smooth molasses.  Guessing they are more workable for MUSHes where people are posing like once a minute vs combat spam here
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I think they used to be less spectacularly bad before miniwindows
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but they are completely unusable now
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Start time from 'friend ago': 1678213091. Start time printing the table: 1678213094. Difference: 3 seconds. End time after printing table: 1678213099. Difference: 5 seconds. Total of 8 seconds from sending command to ending the table print. Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that is absolutely nuts
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yet I have nothing that I can see that should affect friend ago at all.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Last one was 4 seconds from command to print start. I'll try it on vanilla when I get home.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: my times using utils.timer() are 2421363.9694021 and 2421364.0306222
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so like 0.06 seconds
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So insane.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: even if I count the entire time between hitting enter and the final result, it's still only half a second
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that includes the command round trip
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: on the upside, if you figure out what's going on it will probably be important and interesting
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Most assuredly.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: fiendish,  i cant figure out why some names are yellow and some are red in the group monitor plugin
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: alignment?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: their hp %?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: oh yeah prob align
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: oh it is alignment
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: mysterly solved
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, some bad news. I still get the lag on a fresh copy of MUSHclient, on a different system. Using utils.timer() this time: 1518263.8512671 from issuing command. 1518267.8317614 -- start of printing the table. 1518272.6962838 -- end of printing the table values. So, 4 seconds, then 5 seconds. No other plugins installed except stock AardMUSH.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: does it happen for anyone else?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: is it easy to test and see?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: \\\require "wrapped_captures" require "aardwolf_colors" print(utils.timer()) function my_callback(lines, startline, endline) for _,v in ipairs(lines) do Simulate(stylesToANSI(v) .. "\r\n") end print(utils.timer()) end Capture.untagged_output("friend ago", true, false, true, my_callback, false)
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: actually let me make that simpler to evaluate
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: \\\require "wrapped_captures" require "aardwolf_colors" start_time = utils.timer() function my_callback(lines, startline, endline) for _,v in ipairs(lines) do Simulate(stylesToANSI(v) .. "\r\n") end print(utils.timer() - start_time) end Capture.untagged_output("friend ago", true, false, true, my_callback, false)
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: paste that into your input bar
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: 3.5211380999535
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: wow
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that's crazy
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: \\\require "wrapped_captures" require "aardwolf_colors" start_time = utils.timer() function my_callback(lines, startline, endline) for _,v in ipairs(lines) do Simulate(stylesToANSI(v) .. "\r\n") end print(utils.timer() - start_time) end Capture.untagged_output("friend ago", true, false, true, my_callback, false)
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oops
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I get 0.5
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: very consistently
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I guess I only have 86 friends though
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: maybe something happens
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: i only have 77
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: will it speed up if i get more friends?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: shouldn't
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it should just already not be that slow
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'll try those now, hold on. Just got back from swabbing last patient.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, on my primary system: 3.94 seconds.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: brutal
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: oh i downloaded a vanilla mushclient the other day i could see if it's the same
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: h
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: oh
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: On my vanilla, 3.67 seconds.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: weirdly I get the same over here now
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: was a bunch of lag added to mortal echo recently?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: doesn't seem like it
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, finally turned echocommands on. "You entered: echo {End Capture 1}" -- shows up after the display.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: yeah, I'm seeing that too
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: but only here
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, this is strange... at least for me: echo Testing;friend ago;echo testing -- It goes out of order. It sends 'echo Testing', 'echo testing', and then friend ago.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, wait...
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: uh
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: implausible
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: yup it was 3.42 on there as well
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: this is actually a problem with the friend ago command, lol
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: friend ago adds a bunch of lag _after_ the command
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, that echo was MY fault... because I forgot I do have an alias of 'echo' for something else. Not sure why I have it. Regardless, turned it off, and still 3.99 for the time.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: which I guess doesn't happen for imms
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: try just sending friend ago;look
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Strange, then, that it would only happen on 'friend ago' and not 'friend online' or 'friend laston'.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, that took a few seconds.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But friend laston;look -- instant.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, it really IS friend ago and lag.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: so this explains the difference you're seeing between tagged/untagged, since for untagged the closing tag is blocked
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: yikes
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, you were right - once we find out what it was, it would be something interesting.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: well, ok, I mean, I was hoping to not do that thing you asked for, but maybe now I will
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: who added the lag to friend ago
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, in the case of 'friend ago', it probably wouldn't matter considering that there is a variation on the number of lines.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: is the real question
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: YOU DID
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: NO YOU
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I guess we can find out if it's intentional or not.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: thanks crowley for the new plugin, makes going back and rereading posts very easy  :)
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: anybody know Splunk really well that I can ask a question?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: if anyone is taking crazy plugin ideas, a plugin that created a miniwindow that has your inventory in a tree list (with expandable) containers and either hover or sub-miniwindow identify panes would be really cool wouldn't it? :P could read/expand upon the data from dinv or other inv plugins
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: my wishlist starts with dumping inventory to json for processing by external tools
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coomie Tech: What's the command to remove a mapper portal?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adara Tech: mapper delete portal #index (check mapper help portals)
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: any sql query gods here
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: no gods, no kings, no masters
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: but shoot your shot, king
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: i've dropped a few tables in production in my time
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: hit em with the ol `delete from user
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: trying to find the cheapest way to do multiple counts in the same query
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: while grouping them
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: be super cool if mapper where with no argument showed the speedwalk to ur last goto room
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: can we have a browser plugin for mushclient?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: gaballon: I need more explanation
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: aoric: browser plugin? to do what?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: like if i mapper goto 99999 but get stopped by agro mobs on the way
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: can't you mapper resume?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: mapper where to see the remaining steps
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: see them not walk them
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: I think the issue is more "I need to debug why my mapper routes aren't working"
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: gaballon: why see and not walk?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: Being able to "dry-run" a path so you can see if there are missing cexits or something
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: if im in combat
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: I've had the same thought
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: sure. I see no reason why not 
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ok, it will be so in the next release
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: thankd
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Aoric: ?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you asked a question but I need clarification
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh. he's linkdead
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I wonder if he meant, "Be able to visit a link through a window in MUSHclient rather than switching to a browser."
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: people need to stop wanting mushclient to do things that other programs are just better at
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Which I suppose is possible, in a basic way.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at 1337 H4x0r Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: minecraft plugin when
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: is this a bad time to ask for a mushclient-based turbotax alternative
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish already has a Tetris plugin.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's so old though
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: original soviet old?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: good morning! Playing with plugins for the first time and I'm seeing a run-time error "\MUSHclient\lua\gmcphelper.lua:101: No gmcpdata variable set. stack traceback: [C]: in function 'assert'". Pulled the syntax from Fiendish's wiki and I also validated it with some existing plugins (written by others) that pull gmcp. Any thoughts what's going wrong?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What exactly are you attempting to do?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: pull the players current practices. 
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And how are you trying to pull the information?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: worded it (abbreviated) like "function OnPluginBoradcoast (...) if (text == "char.worth") then res, gmcparg = CallPlugin("longstring","gmcpval","char.worth"). Then copy /  paste what Fiendish has for the luastmt and assert lines.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: then I try to call the data in a separate function "local current_pracs = tonumber(gmcpval("pracs"))
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: if it's in a separate function i'm assuming there's some var scoping problems
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, get rid of that CallPlugin stuff... It's easier to do: require 'gmcphelper' and return gmcp("char.worth")
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, function OnPluginBroadcast (...) if (text == "char.worth") then gmcparg = gmcp("char.worth")
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: still requires "luastmt = "gmcpdata = " .. gmcparg   assert (loadstring (luastmt or "")) ()" correct?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: gmcparg will become the table.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: so then to call the data just "tonumber(gmcparg("pracs"))" ?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: gmcparg.pracs, i think
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So you would be able to do gmcparg.pracs if you wanted.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Though you could stand to change it to: worth = gmcp("char.worth") then do worth.pracs. But that's just naming conventions for me. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Of course, all of this depends on how updated you are. If you're still on 18xx, then it probably won't work since gmcphelper was introduced later.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: hmmm new error this time, but related :P saying gmcparg is nil for me and can't index
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: it's short now, reads: function OnPluginBroadcast (msg, id, name, text) if (text == "char.worth") then gmcparg = gmcp("char.worth") end end
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i think you do still have to test for the plugin id, otherwise it'll fire on any plugin broadcast
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: and i think i see my error now i type it out. . . never called the plugin
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, you still have to verify the plugin id, so: if (id == "3jsaljasjdfhauweljwhatever") then if (text == "char.worth") then gmcparg = gmcp("char.worth") end end
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: still null. At the top of my <script> section I've put "require "gmcphelper"", I know gmcphelper is enabled. What could be missing I wonder
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: basically have: require "gmcphelper" function OnPluginBroadcast (msg, id, name, text) if (id == '3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264') then if (text == "char.worth") then gmcparg = gmcp("char.worth") end end end
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: error is run-time error "attempt to index global 'gmcparg' (a nil value)"
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: wait should I declare it as a local value first?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: ok, progress! I just declared gmcparg = {} at the top of the script and it's now giving me other errors. Gonna keep noodling, but this has been really helpful. Thank you!
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how do you know that's the right track
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What errors are you getting now?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: well I inserted a wait but haven't looked into that deeply. I have "require "wait"" at the top and later call "wait(0.5)" and it's saying "34: attempt to call global 'wait' (a table value)" 
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, yes. You are using wait incorrectly.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you want to do a command after a certain amount of time, use DoAfter, or DoAfterSpecial.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But why are you waiting 1/2 a second?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: sending a practice command to the mud and continuing if the user has more than 10 pracs left & if their current practices < what they had before (simplying any checks for "There's no one here that can train you" or whatever). Waiting 0.5 seconds seemed like a simple way to let the previous practice command execute before recalculating those values
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But the pracs would update when the plugin broadcast the information, so you can just store it and check it each time. 'if lastpracs > gmcp("char.worth.pracs") then It's changed, do this code end'
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: ok ok this is still helpful. I need some more troubleshooting, though. My original version just had it cycle through every skill it got from slist that was between 1 & 94 % practiced, and that worked fine. But it was crazy inefficient. Now I'm just trying to add a check that the player still has more than 10 practices but it's starting to crash my client
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: New update to the NoteExtender that added some missing parts.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Does setting the level on mapper portal account for tiers or does it use actual level?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: just set the level of portal
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: mapper portal will factor tier for you
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so if you wanted a portal to be SH only
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Macbeth.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you wanted it to be SH only, you would need to set it to 291, or whatever your tier is.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thanks folks
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: crowley explained it better!
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I did no such thing. I just answered his other question.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You did all the explanation.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Hey, having some issues still pulling practice data from gmcp. Here's roughly what I've got: "gmcparg = {} function OnPluginBroadcast (msg, id, name, text if (id == 'long_string') then if (text == "char.worth") then gmcparg = gmcp("char.worth") end end end     Function Practice local current_pracs = tonumber(gmcparg.pracs) if not current_pracs then Note "No practices" return end." This is breaking out with "No practices", so I'm not aggregating it correctly. Any thoughts?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Maybe it's better if you actually put your stuff in a pastebin or somewhere similar, because looking at that, there are a half dozen errors (it feels like), and in order to properly help, we need to see what you actually have versus what you either have typed out or erroneously pasted.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, so... stupid bugs in the last time I said NoteExtender was updated. But it is, for real now, and hopefully no bugs. *shifty*
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: with themed_miniwins, is there a way to create links that execute commands, similar to Hyperlink?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: here is something weird that might be amusing! https://imgur.com/a/bPWrAY2
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Great idea Crowley, thank you. Here's what I've got: https://pastebin.com/7g8ftJXG. Again, just having issues grabbing the gcmp data right now. First plugin I've attempted but looked over Fiendish's wiki and some plugins others wrote, not entirely clear what's going wrong.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Tipro: You have local gmcparg = "0", but you then follow it up with requesting gmcparg.pracs. You can't do that because what it's trying to do is "0".pracs, which just doesn't work
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you delete that line, then it should go an extra step to fixing your script.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: ok hrmmm. Pretty sure I stole that idea from SND lol. for current_character_state. Anyways, should it be "local gmcparg = {}"? I had that preivously and was getting the same
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Guinness... that... I understand your name is a beer, but your MUSHclient (especially the commlog) shouldn't be drinking you to produce that output.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No, because you're clearing out the already-established gmcparg. You don't need to redefine gmcparg at that point.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: ahem, guinness is a stout sir
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: stout beer
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Still beer.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: yeah makes me wonder what else is messed up like this that i don't know about lol
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Guinness.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Guinness: oh no
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Sath: yes but I'll need more context
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: like maybe a config option in miniwin: Option A [On] [Off]
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: where [On] and [Off] are hotspots that Execute "option a on" and "option a off"
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Could you do that with add_button and keeping the style transparent?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: how would I know where to put the button?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: ok, cleaned it up in a couple ways (https://pastebin.com/7g8ftJXG) but still getting the old error "[string "Plugin: Practice_All"]:21: attempt to index global 'gmcparg' (a nil value)". Defining local gmcparg = {} or "0" had resolved this, but caused other issues.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you want text, the text window's add_text function takes a third argument for hyperlink details. one sec.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: oh, interesting
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, very interesting indeed. Could that be added to the Wiki?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: maybe
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Tipro: under slist_data = {}, add gmcparg = {} to at least define it. However, until the gmcp data is passed, it will not fill gmcparg with any information. You can do: protocol gmcp sendchar command to force the gmcp info to send, though.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so the way the hyperlinks feature works is that the third argument is a table of tables (one for each link on the line of text) with keys "label", "start", "stop", and "text". Label i
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ugh. ignore that for a minute
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so the way the hyperlinks feature currently works is that the third argument is a table of tables (one for each link on the line of text) with keys "label", "start", "stop", and "text". Label is what shows in the popup bubble when you mouse over it. Start and stop are the character position on the line where the link starts and stops (so first index, last index), and then text is what gets set to the script engine when you click. I think you must call add_text separately for each line of text. No multiline additions here, because the hyperlink table doesn't specify line number.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I know that's confusing, so here's an example from my helpfile capture plugin...
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: nah, that makes sense
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: {{["text"]="search_msg = nil;notfound_message = build_notfound_message("Contents");Capture.command("help Contents", "^{help}$", "^{/help}$", true, false, true, false, process_response)", ["stop"]=24, ["start"]=17, ["label"]="help Contents"}, {["text"]="search_msg = nil;notfound_message = build_notfound_message("Index");Capture.command("help Index", "^{help}$", "^{/help}$", true, false, true, false, process_response)", ["stop"]=24, ["start"]=17, ["label"]="help Index"}}
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that adds hyperlinks to "help help" output for the related helps line that says Related Helps : Contents, Index.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the hyperlinks themselves then invoke those helps
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: sath: you will likely need to update your client though
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: this was added quite recently
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Tipro: if you're really only looking for the practices number, you can do gmcp("char.worth.pracs") directly. You don't need to get the whole worth table first if you don't plan to use it
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyway, since Tipro's question started with an exploration of the crappy old way of getting gmcp data, I'll point everyone to my wiki page https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Using-GMCP#gmcp-how-to as the best reference for how to access gmcp data.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: whats the crappy old way?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: CallPlugin("2ljdflkjasf", "gmcpval". ....)
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: loadstring crap
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Whatever the pluginid was, and then going from there.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: oh ok
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anything referencing "gmcpdata" is old and busted
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish made it SO much easier with gmcphelper and gmcp("field")
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yea the gmcphelper is awesome
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: agree
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: my mapper randomly started using the jewelry box portal to go to recall, instead of aardamulet.  how do i fix that?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Mapper portals. Find the Jewelry box. mapper delete portal #<number of that portal>.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Binary Starky Tech: check your mapper portals list make sure there isn't an incorrect keyword
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: jewelry box is same distance away as aard amulet
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: It works properly otherwise though
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Save yourself the look and type 'mapper portals immhomes'
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: is there way to make it pick the amulet?  it's faster since it's already worn
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm, not sure. Never paid much attention to that.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: make a new portal to use aard amulet then run down
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: that was what it always did until the other day
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: idk how it decides which portal to use if they are the same distance
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it's basically random if they're the same distance
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: strange.  ok thanks =)
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: mapper does not know what you have worn, so it's not going to check and say, "Oh, hey, he has this worn, so we don't need to do anything except run THIS command."
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Running a new plugin that tries to prac a skill, check how many practices the user still has, then prac again if able. https://pastebin.com/7g8ftJXG. Updated the way I pull gmcp data like Fiendish advised, but when I run it I get a bunch of the "Failed" messages I put out as troubleshooting, then the mud crashes. Wondering if it's executing faster than the gmcp data is arriving? What's the best way to handle that?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: client* crashes. Hopefully I haven't actually crashed the mud :P
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Man, no wonder we've all been losing link several times.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley tsks Tasty Tipro.  You feel sorry for him.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tasty Tipro blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: we found the bug and it is tipro? brb i'll grab my pitchfork
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It is probably a recursion issue. If you never terminate it circling back to check something, it'll lock up.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley giggles at Cheesy Anssett's actions.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: why do you need to check GMPC for skills data? i just type skills ans my trigger practices anything from my list I have designated to practice
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Earlier, testing out a script, I did: while endIdx >= 1 do print(endIdx[1]) end -- Well, endIdx will always be greater than 1 if I never decrease its value...
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: if you do it with gmcp you don't have to gag output, and it's probably in an easier-to-lua form already
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Selitos: I check gmcp to see if I have enough practices to keep going. I built the list off slist data (I think you pointed me in that direction) and I got it to cycle through everything between 1 - 94% trained just fine, but playing around to improve it now.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok, i just make sure i have enough oractices betfore i look at my skills list  *shrug*
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you can use "gmcpdebug 1" to enable gmcp debug output, which will help you nail down the timing of when gmcp data arrives. "gmcpdebug 0" to disable it
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: yeah I'm just playing at this point, but it's been fun trying to learn. I'm so close, just having issues with the gmcp. Maybe the solution, instead of forcing gmcp data to come repeatedly in short succession, is just divide current_pracs by 5 and train that number of spells / skills.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: a heuristic like that will definitely improve the speed
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone here a sql master
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: anyone know if MUSHclient might be able to capture Xterm256 color codes from the output programmatically?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: StylesToColours from aardwolf_colors.lua will convert mushclient style runs to x256 color codes
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: about about the new fancy 256 colors in Bloodlust Dungeon, Sea King's Dominion, etc?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: like: A crystal pylon stands several spans above your head, glowing faintly.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: onice!
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you can test it by selecting that text and pressing Ctrl+D and you'll see it picks up the @x code
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Ctrl+D is copy with color codes
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the code for how the Ctrl+D plugin works is in MUSHclient/lua/color_copy.lua
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: hey does anyone a know a decent amount about wordpress?
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there a way to search cexits by keywords? Like mapper cexit search <keyword> or something.
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: basically it's just mapper cexits and ctrl-f
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you you can narrow it down by mapper cexits here
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: obviously you need to be in the area
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ugh, I'll do that, then I guess.
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You don't need to be in the area. You can do 'mapper cexits <area name>', too.
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, 'mapper cexits aylor', for example.
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Or learn SQL. :P
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: anyone know where I can find a generalised occlusion detection algorithm to check if a line from (x1,y1) to (x2,y2) will occlude any existing already filled boxes on my grid?
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Danj: try this? https://pastebin.com/wCyM5xgH
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harvester Tech: hi, what's the best/easiest way to remove a cexit on mapper?
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, change 'goto continue' to work with 5.1
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Harvester: Go to the room, right-click it on the GMCP map, select 'delete exit' and choose that exit.
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Actually, Danj, I just changed it to not use goto. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harvester Tech: tahnks, crowley
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I wonder if danj's occlusion detection question is for a plugin
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: maybe he just really likes occlusion detection
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: can we match aard output (trigger) based on colors?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: im assuming only basic colors like B G R Y M C? or those @x123 etc also can?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: 256 colors i mean
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that's a good question. one sec
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hm, I believe not
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: anyway how do u match colors?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh, I'm wrong
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the built-in mechanism is very rudimentary and probably not even what you would want
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: we should just ignore that then
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you need to match on a specific coloring, you need to match all of them and then look for the coloring in your script
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: ahhh icic
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: thanks fiendish. i have some follow up qns. but gg for meeting. will do so tmr morning. thanks again!
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakur Tech: besides manually resizing all windows, is there a way to make Mushclient fill more of it's screen? At the moment there's about 50% grey area...
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You should see my grey area.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But don't think there's a way to do it easily. However, if you often switch resolutions, you can always save the layouts to specific layout names.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So you only need to do it once, then aard layout save whatevername
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: how do i delete my dinv build and build again?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: rerun the analyze create invocation, probably
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: should just need to redo dinv build
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hey is there a plugin to help manage hunger/thirst?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: just set up a trigger to drink when thirsty
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: or buy the nohunger wish
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: buy a decanter of endless water (aarditem)
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: If automating spellups is not considered botting, then technically triggers to drink/eat wouldn't also yes?  So long as you're at the keyboard obviously.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: I ask because I feel like half the mud leaves themselves on AFK through triggers, but as long as you're not gaining XP / killing mobs, its fine yeah?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: I don't see that having a trigger to drink is botting
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: not afk to drink via trigger, no
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: err, not botting
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I guess I'm just a little surprised there's not already a plugin for it
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: you could make one <3
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: does everyone have the nohunger wish or something
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: it's trivially easy to do
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: and give it to me
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: better of just having a trigger that drinks when you see the hungry message, a plugin would be possible but overkill
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: Again, super easy to make a trigger, and a non-issue for most players because of wishes or whatever. 
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: yeah but dont you have to set a variable for your con... well i your container never changes.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: You can make a trigger and wrap it in a plugin, but that doesn't really change anything. 
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: if you are in a clan hunger/thirst are no big deal I just drink from my clan founteibn evertime i do a quest, easy
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: He's out mapping.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: well campaigning actually
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: with the map project I'm not actually creating new maps right now, I'm creating the engine that can display maps
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: to replace the old crufty IE7 thing we have at the moment
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: anyway back to the hunger/thirst topic. how about some hard questions: does anyone know how much the hunger/thirst amount changes over time? is it a fixed rate of decrease? is the rate related to any stats?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: there are skills that effect ti too
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: that's interesting, I didn't know that, what skills?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Not a skill but sustenance
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: help  321
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: hunger/thirst is proabably the least thing to worry about in aard
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: once you have the wish nohunger, never again will it cross your mind
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: wishes are expensive
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Corseth sniffs sadly.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: that kind of thinking is why there isn't a plugin for it
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: because you can use a trigger like I do
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: or an alias like i do, i linked it to my q request, which i prob should remove since im sitting :P
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: do you understand how triggers work
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: if I know the rate at which hunger/thirst decrease down from 100%, then I can set a timer to automatically top up, and if my container is empty when the timer hits, I can have a reminder to go refill, before I end up actually being too hungry/thirsty
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah I know how triggers work, I want to make something more complicated than that
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: in real life, sure, people drink when they're thirsty, but actually for optimal health you're supposed to hydrate every x minutes or whatever
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: no no, just create a trigger that notices when the message that say you are hungry pops up then auto send a drink command
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: my guess is hunger thirst is in GMCP, yu could just check it
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: mate this is a game not real life
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ooh
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: good shout
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj looks in gmcp docs
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: excellent, yes it is
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: Danj, just gonna give you unasked for advice, but it may make more sense to learn how plugins and triggers work prior to re-inventing the mapper wheel
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no I know how plugins and triggers work
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: bottom line is hunger is not that important, only affects regen rates as far as I can tell
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: regen rate is kind of important to me, that's how I ended up noticing it because my mana wasn't regenning
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: it does affect regen quite a bit 
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: okay go create a plugin that makes you eat and drink every 10 minutes, you'll soon get fat
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: don't over think things
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: how can you find 10 heaviest items using dinv ?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You could do something like:  dinv search minweight 40
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: and then adjust the weight up or down
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: tyvm! that is exactly what I need
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Shame that Durel never added a 'dinv search sortby weight asc' option...
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: shame, such shame :(
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoyalFlush Kelaire Tech: If only the author if DINV was still around...and active...and playing...and could take requests like that to enhance it.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: If only...
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: Is the syntax to see what gear is already enchanted in your bags, similar/opposite to the one to see what is enchantable?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: The author of dinv is like a mythical unicorn, often discussed, never seen. Maybe one day he will return and save us all... we can dream.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Corseth: are you referring to dinv?  If so, you could do something like "dinv search flag invis" to find items that can be solidified.  You could do the same for the other enchantable flags
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel snickers with Orphean about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: Yes, and What do I do if I want to do the opposite.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: Aka, find all my already enchanted equipment
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: so I can separate it from non enchanted bloot
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You could do something like: dinv search flag solidified
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Corseth tosses Durel up in the air, he loves it!
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Or to check all enchantable flags:  dinv search flag solidified || flag illuminated || flag resonated
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: will the same flags work for dinv get and put?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: the "||" means "or" so it would find anything that matches one of those
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: yep!
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: Perfect
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: so you could "dinv put 3.bag flag solidified || flag illuminated || flag resonated"
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: is there a way with dinv filters to do stuff based on wear location? as some of the eq I use has types like treasure or something else instead of just being armor
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and I'd like to be able to keep armor in one bag, weapons in another
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: yep use the location key
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: dinv help query has a nice list of all available keys
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: wearable head etc works as far as i know
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: neat
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: bah i mean what Korendir said :P But dinv help query is still correct haha
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Basically, if you id an item, any of the fields that show up there can be used in a dinv query.  If the field has a numerical value, you can also use a "min" or "max" prefix on it.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: noice
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: if the field has a space in it, remove the space.  So you could do:  dinv search foundat [some area name]
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj gives a thumbs-up to Durel.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Also, I just saw you wanted to keep armor in one bag.  You can tell dinv a set of queries to assign to particular containers so anything matching those queries are moved to that container.  See "dinv help organize" for examples and details
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yep, already been doing that, that's what I wanted it for
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: once you set up your containers with their queries, you can just "dinv organize" to move stuff where it belongs
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: dinv organize is worth using dinv for even if you use zero other features imo anyway
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: I need to do that
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: I don't have my bags setup with queries
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: woould be nice if "dinv put item" put the item in the right "organized" container
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You can sort of do that already with "dinv organize [query for one or more items]" to move the items.  You can also "dinv store [query]" to move items back to the container they were most recently in.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: so you could "dinv organize type potion" for example to move all potions to a container flagged for your potions
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: can dinv organize be used with the keyring?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: yes, it uses the keyring by default
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: but I think most people tell dinv to ignore the keyring (see "dinv help ignore")
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: one weird issue I have is if I don't ignore the keyring, then it constantly rescans my keys 
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: idk, scans them every 3 minutes even if i'm standing still, its weird
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: that should be fixed in the recent mud reboot, there was an issue that affected it
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: oh, so I can unignore the keyring again
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: if that was hte issue you had, yes, should rescan the first time, but shouldn't recheck everything the second time
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: basically even if I did a full inventory rebuild confirm, it would still try to rescan my keyring every 3-5 mins
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: when i type mapper areas doom i get a list that includes a keyword 'dundoom'
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: when i type mapper areas dundoom i get nothing
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: i mean it says Found 0 areas containing 0 rooms mapped.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: it searches by area name not keyword
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: oh
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: ok then, nm
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: try mapper areas dung
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: yup that works, thanks Ath
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: So i bought this MSI Titan Gaming laptop and i tried hooking it up to my tv (like i normally do with all my laptops) and it shows up with a bluescreen of death . saying  DPC WATCHDOG VIOLATION, i used a hdmi cord. so i went to check my device manager and in Other Devices i got a list full of warnings ,(Base System Device, PCI Data Acquisitions and Signal Processing Controller, PCI Device x2, PCI Simple Communications Controller, SM Bus Controller, Unknow Device x2. I have no idea where to find these driver updates. Any help would be greatly appreciated
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: I'm assuming this is windows OS?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: im wary of trying these "download to find and fix" things because this laptop was quite expensive
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: Has Windows 10 home edition
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: if you check device manager, won't windows try looking for a suitable driver?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: have you visited MSI website and looked for updates for your system?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: no, i thought it was something specific. i will try tho Neg,
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: when i built my desktop a year ago or so, I got MSI mobo.  It came with a CD with bunch of hardware updates. but the website may have newer updates
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: this is a MSI 18.4" GT83VR TITAN SLI-023
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: Does it matter what Countries website you get your driver updates from, ie. im Canadian. ca.msi.com, instead of msi.com?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: Tech is Tech right?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: Wonder - I wouldn't think there'd be a difference in the sites. Your download speeds are likely to be a bit better from a site in your country though - not that it'd really matter for most stuff.
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: so Skynet is able to create 'polymorphic keyloggers' now? what else is the good news of the day? 
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: oh Mr Crowley
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: what goes on in your head?
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: The latest l33t plugin is out! And my favorite one yet! l33t Room Announcer - set custom announcements or commands when entering a room. Available now through 'lpm'! Link in my finger
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: is it possible to increase font size of my comms window only, without affecting my main window
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ooh, I think I'm going to expand on my NoteExtender plugin by adding a Reply button, too. And make it smart enough to detect if you have my NoteWriter Plugin installed and use that or just do regular note write.
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hey fiendish, did you have anything to do with building the gaardian maps website? I noticed some similarities between the database format and the one the mushclient mapper uses
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: nope
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What in the world am I seeing on Facebook on my computer? "This content is only available on iOS or Android
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: but then shae wouldn't get to use the bracket webpage
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: haha you say that like it's a bad thing.....
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: boy i mischanned that good
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: guess shes not the only one that needs a nap
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: what is the command to enable/disable a group of spells?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hey is it possible to have a duplicate of the group miniwindow in ultracompact mode, that I can configure to show players I'm actually levelling with right now?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and I want to add a heal button next to their names too
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: I had to completely re-install MUSH - what file/s do I need to copy over to get my old mapper?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the mapper's data is in a .db file I believe?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: dunno if you can just straight up copy it over though
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: seems to have done it!
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: Hadar is your spellup plugin still the best one?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: It works very well imho
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: ta
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Pretty much, it's the best one for sure.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: Crowley's SnD has a clicker for +/-100  But +/-100 what?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: Is more number better?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: thats for the auto noexp setting i beleive
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: Ah!
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: thx
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: 100 means it will set noexp 100 xp before you lvl
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: snd help noexp
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: please check out note 8248 on tech board - new beta gaardian map page is live!
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: are there plugins to help with market bidding? something that turns all the item #s into something that you can click, a mini-win pops out with input for amount proxy checkbox etc? 
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: crowley has one
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Only thing it doesn't capture at this time are the showcase ones.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I may wind up updating that in the near future though since Fiendish has added new functions and whatnot.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: If I wanted to write a dinv query that matched all wearables, what would that look like? It doesn't seem like `wearable` can be used as a simple boolean. I tried `~wearable ""` but I don't think that does what I want.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: dinv search worn
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: That's currently equipped items. I'm looking for any item that's wearable.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Maybe something like:  dinv search type armor || type light || type weapon
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: that would find all of your armor/lights/weapons
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: that's what I've been doing so far. But now, I want to exclude keys. so I have to do type armor ~flag iskey || type light ~flag iskey
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: so i'm trying to condense the query down a bit
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ah, I think what you were doing is probably the best way even though it is a bit awkward
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: is there a way to use dinv to move all the equipment associated with an analysis into a bag?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: It's what the docs recommend for complex compound queries, but I was hoping my ignorance of dinv's full breadth of query parameters might've made the query more complex than it needed to be.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: No, there isn't a way to flag items in an analysis I'm afraid
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: fudgesicles
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adara Tech: why not ignore keyring, do you have any other keys that are armor items not your keyring?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hmm... My SnD crashed when I got my first Chakra-mob, what's the command to fix the areas for it again?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: xset index areas?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'll try that and see :)
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: After doing xset index areas, make sure you've already marked the first room.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Alternatively, snd force update beta will also fix it.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: oh Mr Crowley
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HEY CLERICS! I COULD USE A HEAL!  Dr. Evl has begun to sing.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: I was super excited to try your new plugin note extender
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly at Dr. Evl.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I wonder what you mean by "What goes on in your head" the other day...
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i couldnt get it working :(
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, that was anticlimatic. What doesn't work about it?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i always have ozzy singing in my head when i see your name
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: one sec i will get on the new mushclient and load it and tell you
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Did you save it as a web page, or did you copy and paste into notepad?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: https://pastebin.com/YsniHkfF is the error
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: value is nil
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's a new one to me. Let me see if I can figure it out.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i will see if its only to do with my personal notes maybe i can share normal output
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: doing note list on gquest forum has same issue
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i may have turned off pagination 
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: i'm totally blanking on where to change the font for the main mush viewer
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, I did not take into account pagination.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Tipro: Game -> Configure -> Output.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: yeah im super trandy like that pagination is old news
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Evl, if you turn paging off, does that fix it?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: trendy
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tasty Tipro thanks (Aleister) Crowley heartily.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or do you mean you have paging off? If you have paging off, it should work.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: ah yeah its off
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: see i knew it was trendy
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's weird, then. It seems like it's hanging on the Simulate... but it shouldn't.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Are you comfortable with modifying your plugin by adding a line or two?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: why is it simulating instead of just showing my notes? :)
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: of course
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, above: function hyperlinknotes(lines) (line 117), add: require 'tprint' ... then below the if i < 5..., do: tprint(v)
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: { [1] = { ["text"] = Posts in the Gquest forum :,["style"] = 1,["textcolour"] = 16247016,["backcolour"] = 2960685,["length"] = 27,} ,[2] = { ["text"] = ,["style"] = 0,["textcolour"] = 13158600,["backcolour"] = 2960685,["length"] = 0,} ,} 
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Is that before it errors out?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: yeah, fails on first line
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: its the only one
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: wait, that was my stupid homebrand table print method
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's very strange. It's trying to say that there is no color, but there is a color listed there... 
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: https://pastebin.com/r2DvCssg
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i mean same thing
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Try this. Remove the 'tprint(v)' and instead, place the following: if not type(v.textcolour) == "number" then v.textcolour = 12632256 end if not type(v.backcolour) == "number" then v.backcolour = 0 end -- See if that fixes anything. Please say yes.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: note
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: yes, it didnt work (i said yes tho)
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dr. Evl goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: why does my aardwolf_colours.lua only have one line
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It has one line only?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, now that makes things even weirder. Nowhere else in the plugin uses stylesToANSI... 
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: trying to debug the file but it only has dofile(GetInfo(60).."aardwolf_colors.lua")
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: it works if i comment out stylesToANSI XD
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: its missing a few lines tho
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Evl...
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So...
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I don't know how this was missed, or how no one caught it before, but I did forget to add the aardwolf_colours call to the plugin.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dr. Evl throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, below line 27, add: dofile(GetInfo(60) .. "aardwolf_colours.lua") -- and see if that fixes it. *shifty*
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: .\worlds\plugins\aardwolf_colours.lua: No such file or directory
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: https://media1.giphy.com/media/q7UpJegIZjsk0/giphy.gif
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What do you get when you type 'checkversion'?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: You are using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r2261
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Blame Fiendish for inconsistent naming: Change it to: dofile(GetInfo(60)..'aardwolf_colors.lua')
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: in his "defense", he has an faq about why he uses both
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i gave you a bad direction by using the english spelling sorry
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it doesn't *help* much
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: colors not colours
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: no, mushclient is almost exclusively ou
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: gammon is aussie
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: so all the builtin stuff is spelled like that
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: oh, well adding that didn't help :(
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: (which is probably why crowley didn't think twice about it)
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Cheesy Anssett.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley sighs at the sight of Dr. Evl.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What happens when you run it now, Evl?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: same error we began with
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: what does the line actually do?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Are you able to download a fresh copy of the client and test it on a vanilla version?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Evl: It takes the styles, converts them to ANSI format so that Simulate (which prints the line and makes it triggerable) works with colors.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Otherwise, you'd have to iterate through the table, do: ColourTell(RGBColourToName(v.textcolour), RGBColourToName(v.backcolour), v.text) ... 
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And then terminate it after that table was done.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i'm installing a clean version, but also i commented out that if statement and things seem good
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: apart from "Posts in the Personal forum :\\\Execute('note read ')"
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: ok brb on my clean version
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: okay it's something to do with my install
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: I didn't install the right thing
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dr. Evl bursts into tears.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: but something else went wrong :( https://pastebin.com/1KLUPh8c
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: only now i cant read it because my text is so small
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Brb, gotta handle patients and stuff.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: well gee I'm learning all sorts of new stuff today
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers with Tech Bloke Danj about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: just learned about "closures" and how I can use them to bring variables in to one of these temporary functions I have to use with array_filter
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh, hell's donkeys
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley giggles.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: right, that's that issue fixed
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: what can you do if recon isn't updating mapper room flags?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Cry about it and then delete everything you ever loved.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley runs away from Kerith in utter terror and horror!
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: delete the room from mapper?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: It means your mushclient isn't up to date
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: do i need to update SnD to see the new fellchantry area i set a start site but it will not xrt there?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No, you just need to xset index areas and make sure you mark the first room there.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: hrm gives me no start site still
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But updating it will work, too.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: geez i can
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: geez i can't even mapper goto 1125
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley boggles at Selitos.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's a mapper problem, then.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ahh cexit room
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: got it now  :)
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley smiles happily.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I guess I should implement the area list next, to make it easier to check different area maps
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but first, dinner
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: or not as the kitchen is in use
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I have been enlightened today, and have learned of a function I did not know existed. And therefore, the findBoundaries function of NoteExtender is more efficient and allowed me to update the plugin for more consistency.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: what's the function?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go (Aleister) Crowley!!!  Busta Rhymes cheers him on.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: table.move. Silly, but did not know it existed. Had some outside help show me a more efficient way than 'table.remove' to capture only the note itself and not anything else.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: This is the entire function now: function findBoundaries(tbl) local tildeStr = string.rep("~", 79) for indexStart,v in ipairs(tbl) do if v[1].text == tildeStr then for indexEnd = #tbl, 1, -1 do if tbl[indexEnd][1].text == tildeStr then table.move(tbl, indexStart, indexEnd, 1) local len = indexEnd - indexStart + 1 table.move(tbl, #tbl + 1, #tbl*2 - len, len + 1) return tbl end end end end return tbl end
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: neat
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: today I learned about array_filter and closures in PHP
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Seriously, though, the speed is amazing on it now.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and gained 100x speedup on new map page rendering due to only doing like 4 database calls
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And I see why you were looking for occlusion before. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the old map code uses heuristics (rules of thumb, basically) for that part
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it works, but it makes the code long and difficult to maintain
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I looked at it and I thought there must be a better way
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and there was
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I love it when things work out like that.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I need to go through some of my old code and see if there are better ways to do things.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Usually is, especially when you learn new processes.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And functions.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: what do i do if the mapper mini window is not refreshing?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: in the new maps, how do you click on the links out of rooms (that show you where the exit leads) on a tablet?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: I used to be able to press on them and the link to the exit would appear.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: click the chain icon?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: doesn't work on ipad
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: oh, that might be a platform issue.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: Areia how does you plugin work? Should it consider on room entry?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: with areas that have two or more portals, do they share an xset?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: yes only one xset mark per area.  
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: then how do you deal with the other portals?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: well you xset mark the portal you want snd to consider the area start, and the throw all the others into your mapper?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: SND just uses the mapper
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: the mapper just treats portals like cexits, basically
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: it'll consider them when generating a path to your destination
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: or it might work in reverse: it starts at your destination and then fans out, looking for exits that connect etc etc
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: oh good, almost thought I had to go techy to solve the problem.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thy Friend Yerald S
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thy Friend Yerald :S
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: Just hold the portal in-hand in its destination room while using the mapper commands and you'll be fine, you don't have to do anything beyond that
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: do recommend setting up a good portal alias, so you can simplify the process
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: if you use use dinv Yerald check out dinv help portal 
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I do... and I've seen it messup
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: it's more consistent if you use ids
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: use ids for everything :P
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: yeah, i only had to learn that lesson once
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: not sure how the dinv sorts the portals... when I add them i use the id number
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: It shouldn't really matter. I like to have a bag just for portals and use dinv organize to make sure they's where they live
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: but dinv gives no craps
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: it'll find them anywhere
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: why does dinv say item does not have a known location?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: do you need to "dinv refresh" or "dinv refresh all"?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: hmm let me try refresh all, thank you
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If you don't have dinv autorefresh in the background (I actually don't recommend doing that) then you'll need to refresh manually for dinv to scan new items
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: right now i have one aardbag, if i had multiple bags with different eqsets by level in them, would dinv put/get from the right bag? can it handle multiple containers?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: yes it can
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: wowie zowie!
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: My SnD keeps crashing when I get Chakra mobs.. I've run xset index areas but to no avail. Is there another command I need to run to get it added to it?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Giddorah: What do you mean, it keeps crashing?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So too many triggers can slow down MUSH. Do aliases do the same?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Probably not to the extent that triggers can.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But really, a high number of triggers/aliases should still not really be noticeable unless you have thousands.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: At least, well-constructed ones.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: gotta watch out for those O(N!) triggers
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In zMUD, triggers didn't really slow anything down except opening the GUI.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Some people had thousands of zMUD triggers and took 5 minutes to open the GUi.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: any lua gods here
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Depends on what you need.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: okay so I have a string.format(), right
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then in it, I need new lines
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: \n has to be escaped, so we have string.format([asd] asd\\n)
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why does this sometimes return an actual \n in the string, instead of new line
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in 2 different places it returns new line or \n, with the same template (visually)
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you do it from a command line, you don't need to escape the \n. Doing \\n will print \n. If it's a MUSH alias/trigger, I do believe you need to escape it.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mm
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so I have an alias that tests this, the alias is in the plugin, send_to="12"
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: 12 is script I think, maybe not
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It is.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so in it, I have to escape it
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the other place that has issues is in the <script> tag in the plugin
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: are you saying this place should not be escaped ?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In the script tag, it shouldn't be escaped, as far as I know. In the alias, it should be, I believe.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ok that would explain why it's acting weird
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what about \r, do I need that
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: carriage return vs new line
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in addition to \n, I mean
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You don't explicitly need that, but Fiendish has stated to use \n\r (or \r\n, whichever, I forget) if standard methods aren't working.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: For example, on the command line, \\\print(string.format("%s %s %s", "test", "exam\n", "quiz")) -- will break the line after exam. But that works for me without issue. If it doesn't use \r, too.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: this makes sense, apparently it applies to aliases in the plugin too
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: imma keep the carriage return, think it's not needed tho
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at TrEz.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Doesn't hurt, either way.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: thanks, saved me time thinking why this happens
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: so I'm trying out this DINV, it built, but only for 861 items, i have 985 :(
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: do you have bags on ignore? dinv ignore list
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: 0 on ignore
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: it also runs through in multiple passes in some cases.  You may have had the others identified in an earlier pass
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: i just installed it and did the build
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: for example, the first pass may be the things directly in your inventory while subsequent passes will look in your containers
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Oh, I meant that the initial build may run in multiple phases and only the last phase is reported at the end
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: should i try a refresh to see what was missed?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: oh i figured it was done it spit out DINV Refreshing inventory: SUCCESS! (Entire inventory is identified) DINV Build completed (15 minutes, 33 seconds): success
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: you can refresh, but unless you have a lot of invis items with your detects down the first time, I'd be surprised if it found more than the initial build
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: hmmf detects up dinv refresh - nothing found :(
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yes, I believe it found everything the first time.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: about 120 items not in list, no idea whats' missing/not identified (dinv 861, items 985)
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: the only other way I can think of it not finding items would be if you have items in a bag owned by someone else (e.g., a spouse) because dinv won't look in bags owned by another person
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: nothing carried owned by others :(
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: how are you getting the 861 number?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: DINV Identify (861 / 861):
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: as it identified it itterated through up to 861
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Less than 1000 items? Those are rookies numbers.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: no idea where it came up w/that #
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: yes, and what I'm telling you is that that message is only reporting what was identified on the last phase of the build.  It probably id'ed the others earlier in the build
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: try "dinv search all" and I bet it will report more than 861
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: yup 1043 this time using search all
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: cool :)
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: so doI need to build again? 
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: nope, everything is good and as expected
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: that initial build message is misleading though
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith agrees!
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: so I understand why you were concerned
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: and ya i saw the #'s changing first id was DINV Identify (1 / 182): , but when it finished it said 861.. so i was like umm mwhats missing lol
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Nod, it just runs through in multiple passes.  For example, it doesn't know what items are containers when you start so it looks in your main inventory in the first pass.  If it sees containers then it does another pass and looks in each of them.  That's why it has multiple phases.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: is there a idiots guide to dinv somewhere? using serach can see <keyword> , but would like to compare like all necks see which is best (but different keywords)
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: "dinv help query" lists all the terms, so eg: "dinv search wearable neck" might eb what you want
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: do "showdesc durel" and follow the link to the docs wiki.  it has walkthrough to show you how to do stuff like that :)
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: but yes, you could do something like "dinv search wearable neck" or "dinv search wearable neck minLevel 100 maxLevel 150" for example
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: or you could search by any stat or damtype or hr/dr or item effect, flag, etc.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: how come when I recon, my map db doesn't get updated, was gona post a note today
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: is there a 64 bit version of mush
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: kerith: clarify "updated", Kers: nope
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Kers: I tried doing a 64 bit conversion once, but it's too much work to do it without introducing a ton of new bugs and crashes
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: flags in room doesn't always update, sometimes yes, sometimes no, sometimes just 1 of them
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Kerith: maybe the recon trigger is bad?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: send me your recon output when it doesn't work right
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: vs when it does
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: fiendish: whats the best way to apply a bg color to a button using themed miniwins
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you want to alter the color of a themed button?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yea, for example if i wanted to flash the button on mouse down, or if i want one button bg color to change when pressed
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: Why might the sp individual sounds not play? The volume confirm click does (sp vol nn).
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i can draw a filled rectangle where the hotspot is but it looks wonky
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Gaballon: the add_button function takes mousedown/mouseup callbacks and returns the bottom,right corner coordinate of the buttom. I guess I'd use the down/up functions to paint over the contents of the button area using my knowledge of the diagonal shift of the contents when the button is pressed
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Saltmarsh: does spset show any of them disabled?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: do i paint rectangle then redraw button? otherwise the rect covers the button text
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: spset shows the ones I want on 100 the rest off
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: gaballon: I'll have to think about this. It may just be best to add parameters for it
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: afk for a bit
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Saltmarsh: which sounds aren't playing, and do they always not play?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: Crowley, does SnD try to call a save at intervals? Like save its state or the world?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fidenix Tech: Any idea why I'm suddenly unable to click links, like from the ShowMap plugin?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Lord LiamSmythe Tech: i don't know... but when i logged in this morning my mapper commands are all mucked up... sending me to the wrong areas now
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fidenix Tech: Hmm
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: Fidenix is your screen split via scrollback plugin?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fidenix Tech: It's not, no
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: for a cheap video editing rig, good vendor might be..? straight from manf or a building site? 
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakur Tech: depends on where you are located
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakur Tech: but depending on how confident you are: labour is expensive. Assemble it yourself
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: usa, have an eGPU ive never figured out how to get working in linux (<-- user error) but i cant edit on a nuc
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: i don't recall android requiring security check to power off a phone before...?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Any suggestions on where to go for aardwolf plugins?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: finger scars
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: These lovely new maps have broken the showmap plugin which is a shame. I love that plugin
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Eh, probably just needs an update to the new links.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: I'll look at forking it this weekend.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: if those are the maps Danj is working on I would wait for the map work to be complete before doing that and just continue with the existing links?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: Unsure how it works - will look. So far I just used it. Don't think it's maintained any meore
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i think its linked to a boot server for the maps
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Neeper nods at Dr. Evl.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: which was annoying when i tried to add new links to better gaardian maps
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, all the map links are in the external_maplinks database, and are formated as such: <a href="http://aardwolfboot.com/map/Aardington_Light.jpg" target="_blank">Light</a>
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, all the map links are in the external_maplinks database, and are formated as such: <a href="http://aardwolfboot.com/map/Aardington_Light.jpg" target="_blank">Light</a> <a href="http://aardwolfboot.com/map/Aardington_Seekers.gif" target="_blank">Seekers</a>
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So really, it's up to Boot to make changes on their end.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: could probs create a local db given time
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As long as you convert them all to images, probably.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: surely not theyre just links you click right?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Look at the format of them. They are images, and for reason.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: Gaardian            https://aardwolfboot.com/map/Faerie2_Gaardian.html
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm not sure how the maps would render in a miniwindow.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: they are hrefs and i think youre just looking at a subset, which happen to be images
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: unless we have different plugins of course *shrug*
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I mean, try it with the webpage itself. But there's also a reason why there's no 'Browser' extension... I truly do not think it's capable of rendering webpages, but placing an image is easy.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: we may have different plugins, mine just opens the browser
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, we might not. I don't know. I don't use the plugin myself. Just did some basic digging into it.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: yeah then it opens a browser
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I thought it placed the image in a window in MUSH so you didn't have to go to the browser, but you're likely right.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: that would be cool
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In that case, changing the links should be easy to do.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: probably, i was new to lua when i looked at it
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: so this has probably been asked and answered repeatedly since new areas went in, so i guess it's my turn :p snd doesn't seem to be able to find rooms in chantry for quests. says "no matching rooms found". the whole area is explored and mapper can find it manually. thoughts?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoyalFlush Kelaire Tech: There's a way (I don't use SND) to add the new area to snd through the commands.  SND help should let you find that command (and hopefulyl someone smarter than me answers)
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: snd index areas, i think?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: did that
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: or snd areas index
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: xset index areas
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i think it is having some sort of a translation error from Fellchantry -> chantry but that's just a wild guess
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yep. chantry was missing from the area-id lookup table. manually added it in the plugin but i wonder if there is a more correct way of doing that...
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}7 8 Nueve Tech: how do i add say cexits for skd
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: mapper cexit say {magic word}
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: in each respective room
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}7 8 Nueve Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: "dinv search wearable hold type treasure" shows me 94 items, but "dinv usage all wearable hold type treasure" doesn't return anything. what am i doing wrong?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: "dinv usage all wearable hold type armor" works just fine
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i do not know the answer, but i can confirm i get the same behvaior
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: my immediate thought is "maybe you don't have anything that uses that", but "all" is not "allUsed" so that's proooobably not it
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: if that were the case i'd expect it to look something like the output for "dinv usage all wearable hold type trash"
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: nod
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: since trivia tokens aren't exactly best-in-slot =)
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: hah
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yeah. other classifications work for that same query
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: oho check this out reyn
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: -- Only consider an item available to be used if it has a wearable location,
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: -- is not a potion, pill, or food, and if it is not both a treasure and hold item.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: hmm yeah and "dinv usage all wearable hold" doesnt list any items of type treasure, despite some bloot with potentially valuable stats falling into that classification
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: seems intentional
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: (lines 17336,17337 in my dinv)
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: no idea why but it is at least not unintended? lol
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: oh good find!
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i'm not quite sure i follow how that comment aligns with the code logic, but i'm better at reading words than i am understanding code
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do I print what dinv plugin does?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: dinv help notify?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Is there any way to make mushclient windows "snap to grid"?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: any sql gods here
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: select *, omniscience :D
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: holy shit sath
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: ehh disregard
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Is there a way to convert a Mudlet profile with a bunch of aliases, triggers, etc over to Mushclient or do I just need to re-create them in mushclient?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: You might be able to automatically migrate triggers and aliases. "etc" is vague. Plugins would probably obviously not be migrateable.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Right. Mainly the aliases, triggers, keys.. Was hoping to avoid creating all that again if possible.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I read there is a plugin that gives access to a manual within the client, is that still around somewhere or do I just need to look stuff online?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: how can i expand a variable from a plugin via the input line of mushclient, like if i have ortal_bag defined for instance
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: portal_bag i mean
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i think u need to use the scripting prefix
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: or use an alias and check expand variables
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: ah thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: or maybe i misread ur question. if its a variable from a plugin you'd need to use GetPluginVariable()
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: ah thats what i was looking for! thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: is it possible to have a plugin write a variable to the mushclient? As in you know how you can define variables in the scripting section of configuration in mush? Can you have a plugin that updates it or is that only for manual entries?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: SetVariable() iirc
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: ohhhh, i'll have to give that a try, I need to update those variables constantly whenever i level, it makes it so much easier to have a plugin do automatic things when you achieve a level threshold lol
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: so (again, from memory) SetVariable("VarName","var value is always a string")
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yea it's always stored as a string, even if it's a number. pretty annoying
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: fortunateyl it's not toooo hard to tell lua "no, really, i know it says it's a string, but it's really an int"
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: Thanks Anssett! It does indeed work!
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: is there a known issue with xrt/mapper?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: don't think so
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: xrt is misdirecting me away from the target area.  its happened to me several times.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: no idea, haven't seen that happen
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: can try rt the area, then 'xset mark' at the entrance, then recall and try xrt again?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: does it just run to some random spot, or the wrong area?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: wrong area
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: xset mark may fix it
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: any suggestions to any specific plugins worth having installed?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I just reset the mark, and tried again... failed
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: might be an issue with portals added in wrong room or such, too
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: what area are you trying to run to, and where is it going isntead?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kegu Tech: what zone you running to?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: scarr
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: So in Mushclient, is creating a variable the usual like 'food = "pie"? or is there something different?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: \\\SetVariable("food", "pie") if you're doing it from the command line. I forget if I added #var to mine, or if it comes standard, but if it's not added as an alias, you can add it yourself. #var {*} {*} -- SetVariable("%1", "%2") and Send to Script.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Then you can do #var {food} {pie}
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (Note that 'standard' meaning AardMUSH package, not vanilla MUSH)
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: aah.. you can create variables from the command line?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yep, with the \\\ command I showed you (provided \\\ is your scripting prefix)
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: well that's cool. not used to that idea.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But if the #var alias is already created, then you can just do #var {varname} {value} as I mentioned, too.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: thank you, i really like that you can create those from the command line. just seems that would be quicker than having to pop in and out of another window
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: after you create the variable, then say you want to use it in an alias, how do you call the alias... I'm guessing ood? or a different way?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: woops.. i mean't ood
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: lol "ood"
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: well ok.. so it's got the at sign in front of the name of the variable
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: did you perhaps mean @food? you need to double the @ to escape it.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: yes, that's what I was trying to do. lol
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Depends on where you're sending the info to. If you send to script, you'll need to do GetVariable("food"). But if it's to world/execute, tick the box 'Expand variables' and use @food.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MillieCoyote Tech: Does anyone play on Mudlet? I've been trying to figure out how to disable the chat noises and haven't had any luck figuring it out :C
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I was told about a plugin that helped with inventory, there was one or two other plugins mentioned that are said to be good to have, I've not seen any of these plugins.. any suggestions or ref. to url's that might have them?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: The "dinv" plugin helpw manage your inventory.  If you are interested in it, "showdesc durel" and look at the docs link to see a walkthrough for the types of things it can do.  If you are interested, you can grab it from the other link in the description.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: psh don't be so coy, durel. tell 'em to finger you
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: lol
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Most people have cold hands though :p
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: haha
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Thanks for the info
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: C'mon, I've fingered a few in my time.. I'm not shy. 
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Seriously though, the desc is more convenient because it also has a link to the docs and how to use dinv.  With finger, you only get the link to the plugin itself.  You'd be surprised how many people don't know the docs are out there :p
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fidenix Tech: I appreciate that.  I just grabbed dinv earlier today and was a bit confuzzled on the usage
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i didn't know you have docs in github, the in-plugin docs were always good enough lol
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: all kidding aside.. I do appreciate all the help. The more I mess with Mushclient, the more I'm intrigued with it.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: the inventory plugin causes an error that I'm not able to copy, then it freezes up mushclient all together.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: how do you fix snd location unknown? i've done xset index areas and snd reload still not good
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: ignore, weird that it only happened on lv 185 cp
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: In Mushclient, I re-arranged the windows, how can I save my layout so it's not going back to the default each time I load Mushclient?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: see "aard layout help"
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: you save save/restore layouts.  It's pretty nice
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Ok, that's slick.
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: in snd is there a way to change the order of the list? for instance, if the first mob is in an unlikely room can i somehow move it to the bottom of the list?
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: When you're saving aliases, triggers, variables... When you use "save as", does it save everything in one file, or do you save each individual section seperately?
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It saves anything that's made in the MUSHClient itself into the .mcl world file.
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Plugin information, however, is stored in its own state file.
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: why is the command for reading aera notes not in the mapper utils, where addnote is?
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: any sql gods here right now
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Why has my client suddenly become very prone to "not responding" every few minutes
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: It unfreezes after a few seconds each time but it's really odd and annoying when it ran perfectly fine for years
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: haven't installed any plugins or made changes recently
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: you're not alone alison, I've heard several people have the same issue today
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: im having same problem the last hour or so
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Oh really?
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Then it must not be a problem with the client, but rather with the MUD.
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alainna Tech: mine was doing that when I used the VPN
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Some weird code somewhere is spamming up people's clients and making them crash.
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alainna Tech: so I dc'd the VPN and it helped
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: mine was running fine until recently
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: only had issues today
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: I have been having debilitating Mushclient issues today
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: freezes for over 15 min
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: lots of people do apparently, if you check chan history
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: closing client and restarting it does not fix
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: is this a known issue?
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: is there a way to clear mushclient 's memory cache or something
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xalia Tech: i just updated my version of mush client for Ardwolf, and i can no longer see my output window with JAWS or the buffer list using the arrow keys... What could be wrong?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xalia Tech: i downloaded the one for screen reader users.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xalia Tech: does anyone play this game with MudRammer on ios?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boi Zyanya Tech: yep
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: look
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MillieCoyote Tech: Does anyone who uses Mudlet know of how to disable the ascii minimap? It's obscuring part of my display D:
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: once a while my mush gets super laggy and then it freezes for a bit. is there a memory dump or ways i can clear cache? Not sure if I am asking the correct question but I dont want my mush to hang
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: mine does that when I have chrome open too long 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: is it just me, or are all these Password Reset questions a security risk in and of themselves? 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: especially when they overlap with how one validates their credit agency accounts? first model of car lol
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why do you think they are
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: they're just additional, mfa and password are still there
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and email
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: Because it means that's there's thousands of discrete independent operators holding databases full of PII
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: taht isn't considered PII
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: that isn't regulated as such, I should say
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: bc it's the sort of "casual aside" sentence that when companies get breached get to brag "No credit card info was stolen" (doubtful?) just meaningless info like those questions? funny part is that im pretty sure theres folks who know how to triangulate info
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: think you need specifics cuz
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if you're talking about last pass breach, data wasn't leaked unencrypted
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: still need master password
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: "If you had chosen your own first name, what would it have been?" Trez ... and I'm appointing Trez in charge of remembering this
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ill give you my security question answer, go log in into my account
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if no login in 10 mins, you owe me 5B gold here
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: deal or no deal
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Honestly, the best practice is to choose something YOU will remember that isn't related to you. "What's your favorite book?" "YOLO." "Who was your 2nd grade teacher?" "YOLO." "What is the make and model of your first car?" "YOLO."
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: should i use tp for cp.  YOLO
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I use tp for my bunghole, YOLO!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Don't do it Dartan, CP rolling is the Aard version of lootboxes
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: if I exported all of my aliases to a plugin, is there a way to easily restore those, or a manual process?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: nvm.. import looks like it will
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: can anyone link me the plugin that shows what auto settings you have on? autoloot/autosac/etc
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: so i upgraded from an older mush (i believe 4.93) which i had for like 10 years or something, to the latest one yesterday, and ever since that happened, the movement of text on my screen seemed to become a bit choppier, especially when things are moving fast, like speedwalking. it will freeze for a split second here and there. anyone knows why?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: do you have the automap plugin enabled? In my experience it's a bit of a resource hog
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: just the built in mapper, which has always been there
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: ohwait
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: let me check
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: i misunderstood you at first
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: aard_ascii_map.xml is the one I'm talking about
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: hmm isnt that the mapper window?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: no, it's made out of ascii characters
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: is that the one that puts your map in a separate window?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it is a separate window
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: the mapper window has squares representing rooms, with lines between them representing exits
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: i see. i had that for my older mush as well, but it didnt cause any lag
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: although back then it looked different
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: it didnt change the lines to make it more realistic
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yeah, that's some unicode trick I think
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: anyway, you could try temporarily disabling that plugin and seeing if it helps
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you may also want to disable 'automap'
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: automap can add a lot of lines to your output, and MUSH will have to run the trigger engine for each line. If you have a lot of plugins/triggers, it can get really costly to render that map
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: hmm i think it helps but i do miss that window :/
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: Try disabling plugin by plugin to see if there is a culprit, or restart your computer/etc and see if it's something unrelated like MSE going hard about the 'new' xml files in the state folder
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: the solution is to clean up your mush installation. Remove things with lots of triggers
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: There isn't a generalized "this is the bad thing that Fiendish put into MushClient that sucks" solution anyone can offer here
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: hmmm ok
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: personally, I was experiencing a lot of lag on movement, and I figure out that the culprit was a plugin that I wrote that was generating thousands of triggers
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ogreskull nods at Sath.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: anything that is going per room parsing on move can get pretty bogged down!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I was able to clean that plugin up so that it does the processing in code rather than through the trigger engine, and it more or less fixed my performance
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: i do have a lot of old plugins installed which might be overlapped with new ones that came with aard mush
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: so i'll probably clean those up
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: in general, the more you can remove the better
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Cirrua did this lag start in the last few days
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: lots of people have been reporting serious mush lag in the last few days
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: i suspect either mud or mush has a bug
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If it's MUSH, it's not affecting everyone. For example, me. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But in the same regard, if it's the MUD, it's not affecting everyone. Once again, for example, me.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: It only affects the people Lasher suspects of botting
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: the lag is all your commands being logged and sent straight to him for review
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ingenue Alison lives in fear.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In any situation, I think the best course of action is to download a fresh client, with zero plugins. Start there, and determine if the lag/unresponsiveness happens with a fresh client. Then add plugins back one-by-one until you start to see the lag again.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: is it intermittent Alison? And hard to reproduce the issue?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: yes my lag started yesterday, but i also installed a new mush over my old one so i assumed it's because of that
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Curious, is there an inventory management plugin that works and won't muck up everything? or a more recent plugin? The one I keep seeing come up when I check out the plugin sites, it freezes up Mushclient and just messes everything up.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you're talking about dinv?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: yea
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: interesting, never hread of dinv freezing up mushclient
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: unless you're talking about the build step, which identifies all your stuff
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Been using dinv for 5 years. no issues
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I downloaded the plugin, after I tried to load it into Mushclient, it just froze everything to the point I had to close Mushclient
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Did you get an error message?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: are you wa out of date on your mushclient build maybe
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you might have experienced a separate issue that appears to be associated with a newish build of mushclient
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I did in the main window.. Sad thing is, I couldn't get back to the main window to copy the error.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: try it again and see if it happens again
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it may have been unrelated to dinv
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: and be ready with snipping tool lol
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: lol ok.. scares me though.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: the name of the plugin is aard_inventory.. Can you verify that or am I maybe getting something different?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: that's dinv
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ok. Just making sure
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Nope. Everything locks up, plugin window blocks main window so you can't see anything and everything just locks up.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Plugin window?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Dinv has no plugin window
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: when you open the plugin window to add the plugin
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: but if you're copying the folder and leaving the original there it won't really matter
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: mis
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I don't know if it's due to the plugin messing up mushclient or not but now my variables and aliases are gone.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: did you save theM?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: they don't save by default
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I was just wondering about that.. I figured they were there between sessions, Ok.. yea, that's nothing to do with the plugin.. Guess I need to save them before logging off/quiting mushclient
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: triggers/aliases/timers/variables are stored in the mushclient file, you have to file->save or ctrl+S
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: or add this timer (and save): <timers> <timer enabled="y" minute="2" send_to="12"><send>if GetInfo (111) then; ColourNote("white", "", "Saving MUSHclient file."); Save (); end -- if world file changed</send> </timer></timers>
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you can copy everything between ther <timers> tags and then go to your timers dialog and "Paste"
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: oh nice. thanks.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: what should I set the intervals too on that?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: or any other settings I should make
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: What should I set the interval time to? any other settings I should set for that timer?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: When you save aliases, variables, etc.. Do you have to save each area seperately? or is there a way to just save everything under one file?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: They are all saved under the .mcl file, as I believe I said before.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Aliases, triggers, variables, timers, things you create in the MUSHclient itself is saved under the world's .mcl file.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Sorry, I do remember that conversation.. 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I'm thinking I can then save everything with selecting "save world details" just to clarify
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Correct.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I do apologize if i'm coming across as "annoying" with all my questions, I'm trying to learn MUSHclient, haven't used it before.. not sure why, it's a nice client and all the addons with aardwolf is nice.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: nope, you're using this channel as intended
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Please, don't apologize. It's sometimes a lot to take in, and personally, I'd rather you were certain of your actions than do something and completely have to start over.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Thank you. Sometimes I wonder if I'm just "being too much" hehe.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Pfft, you're tame compared to some people.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: well that's good to know. lol
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: the mapper, the fancy status bar, stats window at the front.. is this all aardwolf itself or will the same windows load with other muds?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: those are all aard specific
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: aardwolf itself only gives you what you see on the main window with all the commands and output
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: everything else is plugin
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: you can in theory play aardwolf from your command prompt on your computer... i just don't recommend it
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: you could potentially modify the aard plugins to work with other muds, but it'd be a lot of effort
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i keep a "normal" Mushclient for other mudding, and aardmush for aard
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: There are generic component classes the Aard specific plugins use however, you could use those to build plugins for other muds. 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Ok, well it makes MUDing that much more enjoyable. I've never played in the MUDs like I have since joining aardwolf and exploring MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Other muds that use Mush as their main client tend to have a lot of Fiendish's work in them
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: not gonna lie, aard was the first time i saw other mushclient users. one of the reasons i stuck around haha
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: "found my people!" etc
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: really like it here. Just trying to learn my way around the client now.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, if you go to the MUSHclient forums, you'll see people posting, "Oh, I took this from Fiendish's mapper plugin to modified it to my MUD but yadda yadda yadda."
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yeah it was a little weird going "wait that fiendish guy is actually *here*, not just on the forums"
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: not just on the forums
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Good lord, say his name 3 times, and he pops up.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: hehe It's nice to see there's still active supporters that don't mind helping 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: got beetlejuiced
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: usually have to pay extra for that
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: And I'm impressed with MUSHclient. I know it's been around for ages, I was busy with other clients. My bad for not exploring Aardwolf and MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett is disapproving of everything and everyone!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: I'm honestly not that impressed.... The windows on the aardwolf client don't even snap together nicely
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that's because they're fake
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: Even as displayed pixels it should be easy to sort through
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh ok
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I accept pull requests on github
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: Its that somewhere the programming got away from the programmer
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish gives a thumbs-up to Eshel.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: I guess I'll have to come work for you clearly
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I won't stop you from contributing
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: Like if its within 5 or 10 pixels on way resize them automatically if they clicked on "snap boxes"
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: cool cool, sounds good
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: let me know when you have it ready for me to review, yeah?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: Well, it's a legacy project so I'm not sure why you're mocking
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you're right. I should not mock you for lacking social awareness. It's unfair and unkind, so I honestly apologize. But I will let you know that your comments here lack social awareness.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: About how shit it is? Or about common courtesy?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: when you're trolling, it's best to follow the rules of the medium, otherwise it becomes really easy to stop you from trolling
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: for example, this is a no swearing channel
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ok, well, I'm going afk for now. you can submit your pull request to add grid snapping whenever you want
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: sometimes, the words just get away from the wordsmith
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: Or you can just stop pretending to know how to program.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: last warning Eshel
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: I'm not going to fit, don't worry about it Kharpern
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: Just throw the ban hammer then,
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: or you could learn to play within the rules and be fine
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Selitos suggests you not upset the people who have the delete button
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There are always two options when you don't like how something is coded: Either do something about it and improve the code and be a contributing member, or just don't use it. I'm sure there are other options, but being a jackass isn't a welcoming one.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: pretty sure eshel is just trolling. Best not to engage with that type of behavior
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: Just don't say it's good by 2023 standards, that is all. No one young is going to jump into the game and client and think its designed good.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: It's good by windows 95 standards
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I joined Aard at 17. thought mushclient was brilliant. 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: and 3 months later look at alison now
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley cackles gleefully at Cheesy Anssett.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: I'm glad it doesn't snap
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Classic Vost Tech: I don't play Aardwolf for the graphics
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helpdesk Kharpern sniggers at Cheesy Anssett's actions.  Maybe you should REPORT the idjit.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: question - is there way i can have triggers include plugin output lines, not just in-game output? i want to highlight a line of text generated by a plugin
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: same here
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Personally, snapping windows annoy the hell out of me.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: for mush*
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Cirrus: Elaborate?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: windows 10 snaps and it's annoying as hell because it never snaps correctly
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: You can just make a toggle,
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: cirrus, not really, but technically kinda
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: the plugin needs to use Simulate()
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: It should never be an issue if its designed properly
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: or you need to write code to look through the output lines
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: well, make it metter and start coding yourself
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: better
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But Ayasinda, that is too much work and I'd rather bitch and moan about it than do something about it. :(
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda is agreeing with that (Aleister) Crowley person again...
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: you have been here all of 6 days maybe play a bit more before you critize overly
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: What are you talking about? I'm not bitching about it. I just said it wasn't good byh 2023 standards. Holy,
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: wait was that Crowley or Eshel talking
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: usually if i want to highlight something, i use a trigger and i would change color and style, but for plugin output lines it doesnt work. so i guess im thinking along the lines of whether theres a toggle to still let me do this
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: Stop taking it as a personal attack
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's actually what I told my boss last week when she asked me to try to prevent cancellations of cases. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Eshel you should review rules 1 and 3
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: can we please just be nice... 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: help rules
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, you might be talking about using ColourNote, then.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can do: ColourNote("white", "blue", "Hi, my name is Cirrus, and I'm an addict!") in the plugin, and it'll output it in white text with a blue background.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: Sorry, I don't think not agreeing with the design of something is a personal attack. It's not an attack on that person but rather the finished project of something they contributed towards
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: crowley, I think cirrus wants to modify the style of some plugin's ColourNote
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: doesn't aard layout pretty much remove the need to snap anyways
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: which is extremely nontrivial
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I noticed there's a plugin I have running called Inventory Serials.. could that be causing issues with inventory management plugin? Random thought...
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: thanks crowley i'll try that
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It shouldn't be. That's a plugin that Fiendish has included, but you can turn it on/off/remove it completely.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it may break things when you do :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It shouldn't.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: inventory serials doesn't do anything but modify output, it won't break dinv (which doesn't rely on inventory output)
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I don't like when things break. lol I'll leave it alone.. It was just a random thought, I dunno.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: It's got me perplexed though, why so many people has been running with inventory management but I can't get it to work on my side. Just weird.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: ah. i've never actually looked at that particular plugin. Novius, you may also want to check out aard help for the various fiendish plugins packaged with aardmush
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it won't fix your dinv problems but it can maybe help you identify what you're looking at in that list
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i would hope so
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: miiiis
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: When society has all this automation and instead of using it to work together to make everything better, instead we compete over every last morsel and breadcrumb and waste mountains of gold regulating over what man fights for. Society can always put the people who are pushing on new understandings more, there is no reason to posture this way.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: give*
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: don't start
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: How many generations before we go through this Kharpern?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: this isn't the place to have a discussion like that 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: yeah this seems like more gossip or debate material
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm back
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: who has questions?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: the meaning of life the universe and everything?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martinvs Tech: 42
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: Mendie's plugin says "Send rscocials to fiendish chat" i assume this a misdesc of actual process? otherwise everyone hug me now
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you shouldn't need that plugin anymore
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: comm log capture has had a remote socials non-channels capture toggle for a long time
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish: I was looking at TruncateStyles recently, and though I have a functional function that returns only the note now, I thought TruncateStyles would have been a good solution. However, I must be misunderstanding how it works. When I try to run TruncateStyles(lines, 2, #lines-3) (as an example), I get an error for line 308, attempting to perform arithmetic on field 'length' (a nil value). So, am I using it wrong?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmmmm
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: For reference, this is how I was using it: \\\local function myFunc(lines) local newLines = TruncateStyles(lines, 2, #lines-3) tprint(newLines) end Capture.untagged_output("note read again", true, true, true, myFunc, false)
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: well let's start with the obvious that just because something works for me doesn't mean it works in all cases
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: lemme look at the code real quick to see if it fits what you're doing
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: sorry, taking longer than expected
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No worries.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ahhh ok so
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: lines is many lines. truncate styles wants one line at a time
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but you can iterate through the lines and truncate them one at a time
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So basically, its role is to turn This is some colored Text to some colored Text if I were to truncate that line at index 2 and 3?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it doesn't remove whole style runs. it removes characters
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ahhh.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if all it did was remove whole style runs the function would be much much simpler
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, I get it now.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, yes, I was using it very incorrectly.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I finally got that error from the inventory plugin...
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And using my function that I have already will be the better (only) option.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: line 16: attribute name 'crossorigin' not followed by = (cannot load)
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: looking for a tablet recommendation to watch my stories. needs to take microSD, android preferred
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Did you do 'Save as' for the plugin file rather than download the code or copy/paste into notepad?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I believe I did, I might have used the download link. Should I download it via "save as"?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I can try that again
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No. Plugins you find on Github should never be 'Save as'. Either click the green 'Code' and download the zip and extract the plugin, or view the raw plugin, copy and paste into a notepad, and save it from there.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: from github? go to the "Raw" version and then save that
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Ok, going to try this again.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Does the raw version actually utilize 'save as' properly? I thought it still added the junk that MUSH hates.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: just click it
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: then save after it loads
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'll have to remember that for next time, then.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it should come up as plain text
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I always send people to raw, but I've told them to copy/paste rather than Save As. I guess I didn't realize that it would save properly from the raw version.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: technically it can depend on the browser
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Edge used to do something very stupid where it would wrap plain text files in HTML
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but now Edge is chromium so I think it doesn't do that anymore
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I want to save the data I copied as .xml, yes?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient plugins are all XML files with XML tags declaring triggers/aliases and a script section inside of them
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, appears Edge does not wrap it in html. Just tested it with one of my plugins. From raw, Save As saved it appropriately. Neat.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Do I want to save that as a regular text file type or do I need to change that to something else?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Though I will say that an extra blank line was added at the end. Plugin only has 169 lines, and is represented with 169 lines in Github. But save as, it now has 170.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Change the file type to either 'xml' and save it, or 'all file types' and save it with the .xml file extension.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: and we have dinv working... Thank you for the help!!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley claps at Novius's actions.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I was reading it was good to find a room that was "out of the way", Suggestions where to go?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: anywhere that isn't a clanhall entrance or aylor recall shoudl be fine :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Depends on what you were planning on doing.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Just wanted to set up dinv, I wasn't sure what all it was going to do that it was noted I should find a less busy room... so thought i'd ask
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: dinv build, yeah just find a room alot pf people are not standing in
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: the ID guy in aylor if you don't have the wish
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just go stand out in some continent area otherwise.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Didn't want to cause a flood and upset the Gods or make them wonder what I was doing. lol
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Heh. When it was first introduced and I was testing it, Durel had it echoing 'dbot' (Durel's Bag of Tricks), so Lasher sent me a tell basically saying, "WTF are you doing?" :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Novius claims to be innocent... Then looks at his shadowed outfit and what he does for a living.. Ok, mostly innocent!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Thanks Fiendish, for pointing out how to save files from github. Didn't realize that made a difference.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley is chopped liver.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: No.. you helped me a lot too, Geez. lol
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Too late. I took offense. Can't take it back now.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Others were helpful too
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: oh.. sure. The great Crowley trying to guilt trip a thief? lol 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley is a bandit, so...
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: lol Ok, I'm out.. I got nothing. I know when I'm on the losing end. 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, not great. Don't feed my ego that much. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Trying to understand something, It was mentioned if I saved the world, it saves everything... trigger, aliases, everything under one .mcl file, yes? What might have I done that nothing loaded when I loaded aardwolf? I still had to load the individual alias file to get my stuff back.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You have an individual alias file? Why?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: to save my aliases? I mean.. It seems when I load MUSHclient, it doesn't load my added aliases and such. So I started using save as.. in the alias window to save my work, so I don't lose it when I close MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: When you go to the Aliases GUI, you see nothing there?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Just now, when I reloaded MUSHclient, I had to load my alias file, or I'd have to start all over again
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: not when I first start the client
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I mean the two default aliases are there.. but nothing I've added
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But when you load your alias file, the aliases are in the alias GUI?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: write permission errors on where the mcl file is maybe? weird
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And if you go to File -> Save, or click the 'Save' icon, then close it out, it doesn't load them again?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: no.. not automatically
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Where do you have your MUSHclient folder saved to?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: enough disk space on the drive?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: to the Users folder
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: yes, space isn't a problem
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Reyn... if his drive was so full it couldn't take 2 bytes of information...
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Can you screenshot what your alias gui looks like right now?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: could be 2 drives, people still do that :D
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: my disk filled up before where i was running mush and it corrupted my mcl file.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear Reyn has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ...
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: aha firsthand knowledge :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: i mean ... it was my friend. i would never be so foolish as to not monitor disk space.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley smirks.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I can make a screenshot.. Where do I post it?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I've loaded my file so now all my aliases are listed
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Imgur, whatever host you prefer. I like vgy.me
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's what I wanted to verify.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: hang on, i'll snapshot this
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: ShareX is a wonderful screenshot program, and can upload to many hosts.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: how do you even save your aliases in a separate file?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: huh, there's a save thing in the aliases dialog
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: there's an option to save/load aliases
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: But I didn't want to save multiple files like having one for aliases, one for triggers, etc... 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: so when I noticed things weren't loading with "save world", I got wondering..
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Which is why I said they all save in the .mcl file. The fact they aren't for you is boggling.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: https://pasteboard.co/0SsBT9KGS9pb.png
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: alias window screenshot
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Only ones listed when starting Mushclient, is the #alias and #trigger alias.. nothing more loads unless I load the personal alias file
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, now go to File -> Save. Then close MUSH, and reopen. Just to confirm they are no longer there.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (Sorry, long day at work, kinda dozed off).
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: No worries, I appreciate the time and help
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: brb
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Well, everything loaded. What happened differently?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: maybe you used some other mechanism than File->Save?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I got involved. It's an established fact (at least at home and work) that when I get involved, things magically fix themselves.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Honestly, some days... Me and technology doesn't see eye to eye.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I don't even have to do anything except look at something at work or home and it starts behaving.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: it's the Tech Support Aura, you get it at level 6
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: My coworker's told me many times, "Okay, you and I are meeting outside. I'm tired of looking like an idiot because it just works when you're around." :P
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: lol
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Spronktar.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, glad it works now.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I will say that some of those aliases, you can just do MUDside, too.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: me too! thanks again for all the help. lol
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: One time I sent a long note to Durel telling him dinv broke and providing a lot of details about the bug
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: turns out I just dropped my aard bag because people kept fidoing me bags of flaming poo so I stupidly went "unkeep all.bag;drop all.bag"
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley rolls on the floor laughing at Ingenue Alison's antics!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: had to send a follow up note explaining there was no bug after all... he got a kick out of that one
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I've done that.. more times than I want to admit of course. lol yeesh.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: doh!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: lol Maybe I can get some game time in now instead of trying to fix everything.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: The courier gives you Ambush's Flamin' Bag O'Poo, sent by (Aleister) Crowley.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: btw, Just wanted to say I really appreciate the help here.. It makes a difference in the whole mudding experience. I try to figure my stuff out before making noise. I'm glad I'm not being "pesty" lol
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley beams with pride.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: that includes you, Crowley. Just to make sure you understand I'm giving you credit as well.. and not chopped liver.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Still too late! Still offended!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley tickles Novius.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: You mentioned me using mud side aliases.. I've always, for some reason, wanted to keep my aliases all on the client side (keeping everything under one roof) sort of speaking. I did see you can have up to 60 aliases on the mud.. Just seems odd to have aliases on the mud.. have aliases in the client.. Why not just keep them all in one place? *shrug* hehe
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: lol
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: touch crowd!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: tough
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: I think you're right Novius,
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, if for some reason you ever have to switch clients, or if you log in through a different client that doesn't have your basic aliases...
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: But perhaps some of your aliases should represent commands in the MUD, or improvements
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: I'm not sure what you've forged
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: An example would be the command 'invsearch', instead of the game showing there is no command it could say: 'Did you intend to enter 'invsort'
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: there is that, I admit.. you are right in that aspect, Crowley. I just figure I'm always finding uses for an alias, figured if i was to reach (60's a good amount, I admit) but if i was to reach 60.. then had another brain storming idea for an alias... then I gotta stick it in the client, cuz I filled my limit on the mud. so my brain says why not just keep things client side to start. 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I personally have 57 aliases. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: MUDside, that is.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: all MUDside?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Those are just MUDside. I have many more clientside.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But I also utilize a lot of scripting components in them.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: odd question, how do you personally, decide what should be MUDside or client?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: that's understandable
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Depends on why I'm creating the alias. For example, 'fw' is 'friend wannabe'. I don't need to create an alias in the client for it. 'summon' is aliased to 'c summon', etc.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: makes sense
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If it's an alias that is going to be more involved (e.g. taking variables) then I'll use the clientside alias.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I'm guessing there's no way to create variables MUDside?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nope
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I like variables. Makes life easier.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I have a variable for the food I'm currently buying and eating, but that might change... so then I just need to change it in one place, as you know this is quicker than having to make changes in different places. 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I think that's why I keep everything client side too. then I know everything is just together in one place
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: my only hangup, as you mentioned, is if I change clients or something like that. I had to start over when I decided I was using Mushclient.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: It can be a little painful, I admit. Specially when you have a whole list of aliases/variables and the such.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you were able to export them from your old client, they might have been able to be converted in some fashion to MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I try to stick to one client for all my mudding
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I was lucky to find Mushclient soon after deciding to explore this mud, I was using Mudlet, luckily I wasn't knee deep into it and having made a ton of aliases and such.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Where might I find this mysteriously hidden plugin with help file when I click help in the client? Or is it best to just look stuff up on the web?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: MUSHclient has a ton of support. I was a heavy zMUD/CMUD user for years. After the developer stopped working on it, I started converting all my scripts to MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Back when I started in Muds, I was a big fan of zMUD.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Eh, if you're talking about the 'help' menu, Microsoft decided to do away with its original help viewer instead of keeping it backward compatible with newer versions of WindowsOS. Now you have to install something else to view the help files.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But I find it easier to view it on the site anyway.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: kk
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: mush just hung (not responding) for 30mins. got my coffee came back and it sorted itself out. apparently many have the same issues recently. 3rd day in a role now. anyone out there also experience this?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Cool. I wrote a function that effectively repositions a window to the nearest invisible grid mark of 5 pixels.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: but I like those gaps...
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: sounds like a job for chatGPT *shifty* :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Now if I can expand that to not clash with window positions of every window.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: that's nice crow
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Using dinv, is there any way to "dinv get" just 1 item vs all of that item?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Wonder if I can make it also resize to snap to 5 pixels.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: sure, you just need a way to uniquely specify the item.  You could do something like "dinv get id 1234567" if you know the id.  You could also do something very specific like "dinv get name sword level 151"
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: you could also assign your own keyword to an item and then get the item via that keyword.  See "dinv help keyword" and then do something like "dinv get key myAwesomeKey"
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: what you trying to do?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Does assigning keywords to items survive producing a corpse and dinv builds?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: easier to just use the item's native id number, i would think. that never changes.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: keywords survive refreshes, but not a full rebuild
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah its a perm change to the item, costs 1 tp i beleive
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i mean 2
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's a restring, not dinv related.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Ok, I can be more clear, sorry. So I have like 6 of the same potion in a bag, I just want to get 1 potion from the bag, not all of them.. I used dinv get and it pulled them all out of the bag.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: well, I'm talking about the dinv pseudo-keywords.  If you use tp to actually add it to an item then you don't need to worry about that
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: oh, see "dinv help consume"
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: if you want it to do potions use dinv consume
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: very handy
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: that will get and quaff potions for you
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Oh nice.. Ok. Still learning to use dinv. I like it though, not used to not having to specify which container to get from
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: you specific the potion and container and dinmv will buy, store, get , quaff all for you  :)
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: oooh... slick! Yea, I'm going to get used to this real quick. lol
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: I have two alias, one to buy potions and one to quaff potions
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: dinv even goes to the right shop to buy for me  :)
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: oh wow
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thy Friend Yerald is agreeing with that Selitos person again...
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: sooo.. you can use dinv commands in an alias?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As long as you set the alias to Execute, yes.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: absolutely :)  The dinv commands are waaaaay to long to type out by hand :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: yes.. you have to 'execute' them.. not 'world'
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yes just send to execute istead of send to wrold
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ok, that is sweet
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: when you quaff a potion it even tells you how many yo have left :)
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: durel is da bomb
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: are you calling me a boomer? :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: dang...
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: so you know when to buy more....
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Selitos smirks.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: nice plugin Durel! You got skillz yo! hehe
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just do yourself a favor and never open up the plugin to view the code. Durel wrote over 20k lines of code for that plugin.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: seriously, that is awesome
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: lol, I had to comment it because that was my first time using lua and I didn't know what the heck I was doing :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly at Durel.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I think there are way more comments than actual code there
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Selitos smirks.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In reality, it's probably about 50% comment, 50% code. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: which is a good practice probably :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: i love it, im learning a lot just reading through it
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i have gotten to trusting the dinv set wear functions too, its nice
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Korendir: My practice is, "Let me write this piece of code. I'm sure I'll remember why I wrote it this way in the future." only to turn into, "WTF was I thinking? Why is this x == y+z-y? That makes no sense!" only to find out if I change it, it breaks everything.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: the more I read through it, mess with it.. I can see this is going to be a great tool.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: yes that does sound very familiar :P
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: there _is_ a middle path.  i have lost track of how many times, usually while maintaining other peoples spaghetti, i have encountered comments lole 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: like* 'no idea why this works, but dont change it or something else breaks'
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish has some of the best comments in his, though.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: yeah thats because the first person did not comment!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: why would you think that wasnt the original author's comment?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: some programmers believe that comments are unnecessary
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: those programmers have the best job security :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: or not
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: in some languages, with the right style guide, you can do without.  its not easy to write that way, and even harder to read that way.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the thing is most comments _are_ unnecessary, but it's because people have a tendency to want to comment about the wrong things
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you shouldn't ever need to comment what code is doing. you always need to comment _why_ code is doing what it's doing
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: That's the kicker. I'd rather have no comments than comments that waste my time
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: the code won't lie to me. it might be confusing, but the code explains exactly what it does
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindayne Tech: question, when i have mush in forefront i can't click an open chrome tab and get it to come to front the mush client stays in front until i minimize i'm sure it's something simple i messed up :P
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: can't do that
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: you need a chrome extension to be in front
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindayne Tech: i mean that's what it's doing how do i get it to stop :P
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindayne Tech: literally won't let me click on chrome to bring it to front lol instead mush is in front and wont go away
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindayne Tech: other app's won't come to froint either mush is like locked for som e reason
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: for chrome, try searching for an extension that would make it stay in front -- I believe there's available one
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindayne Tech: nodnod trying now
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: uh
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what aoric said makes no sense
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: the chrome extension that makes the browser stay in front of mushclient?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: how does the mushclient mapper know how to lay out the rooms in the map window? I tried looking through fiendish's aard_GMCP_mapper.xml but couldn't see anything in there that looked like it did that, unless I just missed it or something
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: fiendish will tell better... but it just uses patches when overlap is detected
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok so here's a (maybe) hard question: what algorithm, given a start point (x,y) where x and y are both integers, and the minimum and maximum allowed values for x and y, will return a list of integer (x,y) points that represents am arithmetic/Archimedean spiral moving outwards from the start point to the edges?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: you just need your degrees of procession along the curve and a shape parameter to calc that
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: let me rephrase the question then
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: you can do it with just radians and the starting and ending position
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah no that's not gonna work for me, let me rephrase
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I've got a grid of 100 by 100 boxes, and a starting box position (x,y). What algorithm will give me a list of (x,y) boxes to search, spiralling out from the starting box?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: couldnt you use the same idea (radians, start, end positions) and scale the spiral by the width of the boxes to get pseudo-even coverage?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: there must be something I'm not understanding then, because I don't think I see how that works
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: the issue is that the amount the spiral travels in x and y is not the same as the discrete units of the boxes, so you have to make some decisions about how you want to sample your points on the spiral
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: but from a math view its not so hard, just apply a spiral to a piece of graph paper and work out a heuristic that scales the distance of each progressive step
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh!
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: theres likely an acceptable max for the grid space, so some discrete calc will work to map back, you'll just have to use floor() or ceil() to identify the discrete x,y and localize down to each box
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah like I said I'm using a grid of 100,100 size so the bounds are 0-100 on each axis
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but what you said about drawing it on graph paper gives me an idea, I can just look up an algorithm for actually drawing a spiral on the screen
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: and box edge size 1 with a padding distance between boxes that is 0?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: just make a spiral in a unit square and scale it up
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: scale up the values rather, to determine which boxes are in the path
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: all you'd really have to do with the unit square is plot the spiral, then sample the points that are derived from box centers, use the x or y coordinates of the centers to find the points that are closest to the spiral
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: turns out I'm a dumbass, there's a much better and easier way to calculate it - concentric squares
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: wow SnD was totoally wrong, didn't even have the right location as an unlikely
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley peers intently at Selitos.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's unhelpful, and now I'm sad because I don't know what it was totally wrong on. :(
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: it had my kobold forman in hawklord, never even suggested it was proba in siege
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: but i killed him now so hopefully the database update will help next time i have that mob
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: just surprised is all rarely is the plugin totally wrong on a mob
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's odd, though, because it should have looked at the area ranges and determined it COULD be in siege, too. Very weird.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: usualy when the primary guess is wrong the unlikely one is right
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: in this case it didn't even have an unlikely guess
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: why does my chrome crash all the time now. is my pc dying
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: chrome is a memory hog
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: and if you don't close it from the systray it might still be keeping itself open
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: even when it's got no window visible
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: right click the systray icon and uncheck the "let this run in the background" or smth, and it may help. but if it's open perpetually it will just get cranky over time
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: chrome occasionally does weird things for me too, it just stops responding and eventually it kills windows entirely... have to hit the power switch. not frequent, but it happens sometimes
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: you guys hacked me, i went to systray to close it and mu pc blue screened!
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett flexes his muscles...what a stud!?!
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: what was the blue screen code
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: lol
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}# Burning Myth Tech: chrome usually shuts down completely when you click "..." (3 vertical dots) in the top-right corner of any chrome window, and then "Exit"
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: 0xBLAMEANSSETT prob
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: t anssett Thanks for convincing him to do that... it was easy to backdoor my way in!
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Whoops.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: reply any time brah
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: dangit
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: optimising map layouts automatically is hard
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: How do I clear mapper cexits in a room?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Go to the room, right-click and delete exits.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: Use the map. Right clock the room
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: read mapper help exits :D
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Thank you
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: How does one transfer all aliases/triggers from one copy of mush to another.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: Can anyone explain why another version of mushclient is having trouble finding constence.lua? I think the problem has to do with having downloaded mushclient and accidnetally putting it in program files folder, so I deleted the version that was in program files, because msuchclient kept trying to look for files in there instead of its own folder. But after deleting that, it said it was having trouble finding constence.lua.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Why does my mapper not know any rooms in bloodlust?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: transfer all aliases/triggers, can copy the mcl file, or select them all in the window and do a save
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: bloodlust and mapper? no idea. didn't i make you drag me there like 2 days ago? there should be some rooms unless you deleted the area from the mapper
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: or restored an older backup
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: or that yea
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Bloodlust is pretty straight forward. Just walk around to map it. There's only, like, one key, I think?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and a custom exit, plus the aq stuff, but otherwise very simple
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and full of bandits
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: bastards
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: =h
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: What is the shortcut command in Crossover/Wine to scroll to the bottom of the MUSH main window?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Crowley, I don't know what you did or how you made it happen that all my stuff works now.. But ever since talking to you, my stuff has loaded properly when loading Mushclient. You got skills yo! lol
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incensed Xamael Tech: that's love
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: lol I guess so. dang.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I was wondering, is there some way or some site where you can actually test triggers?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: you can simulate mud output in the client
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: ctrl shift f12
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ah, ok. thanks.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: you can also use the ... echo? i think command
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yea. similar thing, server-side
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: you can also use the Simulate function in addition to CTRL SHIFT F12 GUI
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: for testing, Simulate() better than Echo
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ok, that's cool. Not used to having a client that can test that stuff. That's pretty cool and very helpful.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: you know u can also send Simulate via the command line too?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: i do now
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: how does that work? Just type simulate() at the command line?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: by default, it is starting the line with (3) slashes like \\\Simulate("Novius rules") Note()
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: oh ok
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i like forcing a new line coz sometimes Simulate and the MUSH output don't play well and a new line isn't forced. other ways to force a new line
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I wrote an alias to simulate the #echo command from zMUD/CMUD days, and add color. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I just didn't want to be "spammy" to the mud, it's nice there's some ways to test that stuff without getting spammy in the mud
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: SHIFT+CTRL+6 is where you can change the \\\ prefix
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: By the way, you can do: \\\Simulate("This is a simulated line!\n") and it'll add the new line. No need for Note().
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yah, that is the other way for new line
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In an alias, it has to be \\n, though.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, command line: \n. Alias, \\n.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: that's interesting, but ok
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I wonder why we can get away with one slash but in an alias it's two?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Which I didn't know, so thanks for that tidbit.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Probably has to do with how MUSH reads aliases.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Makes sense.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Never bothered to learn the reason behind it. Fiendish probably knows.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: \ it often times a character that needs to be escaped
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the XML processor adds an extra interpretation step
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I figured it had to do with xml. And there you have it.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Novius sighs, part time tweaking stuff and being nerdy, part time gaming... it's hard to be a nerdy gamer some days.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Nothing critical of course, just a random thought.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: there are a number of areas where you just kinda have to be aware of the differences in how mushclient is reading the content of what you type and where it's going and so on
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: like the &gt; thing if you're not inside CDATA
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I'm slowly working on being more familair with lua as well, that's helping a lot.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: the &gt is the worst. makes stuff hard to read
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Reading through that mudlet issue was a very frustrating experience.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: at least it's possible to enclose sections in CDATA tags to remove the need for &gt; and to use > again
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that's completely an XML problem
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish nods at Orphean.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it frustrates me because I really want to be able to say "mudlet is better now. let's all use it"
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: pass the torch, so to speak
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but not if they make decisions like that
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: feature request: just use json and the blockchain , that's how the pros do it
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Aardcoin
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Each coin is backed by 1000 pups, as proof of work
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Is that one of the reasons why people will add their triggers/aliases manually in the CDATA vs the <aliases> <trigger> sections?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but it's possible to put CDATA sections anywhere, so that's kind of a mistake
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: there are good reasons to use the alias/trigger <send> block vs the <script> section related to timing of when those different sections are actually run
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: though most of the time it doesn't matter which one you use
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure I could explain off the top of my head the exact circumstances where it actually matters, but I know they exist and I've run into them
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i like your answer more than mine, which was ppl wanted to be annoying and make their code harder to read
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I only want my code to be more fun to write
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: to hell with the rest of you
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: that is what i think about you every time i lose a GQ because the mapper took 3000x longer than the secret mapper codes :)
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: One day someone will release a "jailbroken mapper" plugin in public and everyone will use it and fiendish will be sad
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: nah, I'll just do something else
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I probably could find one if I really searched around but I'm happy with my GQ winrate so I'm lazy
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ingenue Alison settles down for a quick snooze.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: alison, you and i both failed with GQs. The pro move is to win fewer than 100 and participate in more GQs. That's the jailbreak
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: well, fewer than 10
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: look
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oops
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: In mushclient, Is there any way to add personal info to the alias title if for example you wanted to add your own text to differentiate aliases aside from using different categories? (hopefully that makes some sense.)
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: where do you want this info to appear?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I was thinking like if you have a group of aliases, then if you wanted to sort things within that category, maybe addition info showing in the list of aliases that you could add somewhere with your own custom text.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: not quite what you're looking for but you could use labels
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Ok, I think you answered my question lol, sorry, don't always word my ideas or thoughts clearly
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I think you nailed it though.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk bows deeply.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Just to clarify, using echo sends data to your main screen but only you see it?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: it
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: it's a server side
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: you can see, but so can someone else
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: hey techies, i need help with a thing that i thought would be simple but i'm obviously missing something obvious
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: why wouldn't this work: if %1 = "MyVariableIsAString" then Send("DoTheMagicThing") end
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: as a trigger
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: should it not be ==
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: for an if statement
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: = is assignment, == is "equal to"
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedi Kandorr Tech: if ("%1" == "MyVariablesAString") 
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thank you so much :)
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incensed Xamael Tech: who set up the wrong certificate on aardwolf main website? O_O
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: operator error?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dar shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: oops, someone forgot a SAN
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: Alternative namestest.aardwolf.com testwiki.aardwolf.com   MISMATCH
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incensed Xamael Tech: is the common name that is wrong it should be aardwolf.com and it have test.aardwolf.com seems the test site ssl hmm
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incensed Xamael Tech: you can always use a wildcard certificate and it will works for a x number of subdomain without problem
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: yeah, i was gonna say, might be time to upgrade to a wildcard
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'm pretty sure he knows about a wildcard operator
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But for some reason security folks don't love them
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: only cause they make holes LOL
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: idk, i'm skimming articles on it and all the downsides to wildcards certs are "if someone gets a coppy of your cert, you're in trouble!" which like...duh? if someone compromises your non-wildcard cert you're in trouble too
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incensed Xamael Tech: btw the site have some scripting issues too,somethin about a Uncaught (in promise) Error
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do you make an empty if clause in MUSH? "If X is true, then do nothing", else, do Y (actually doing something)? It seems to return an error if I try to. Do I just have to do Send("") or something?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: you don't. you test that x is not true.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: leave the block empty, shoudl be fine
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: you should probably change your condition to x is not true
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: but you can also .. that
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj nods at 404 Eroe.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The problem is that when I make it so X **is** true, it just returns an error.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: or a do while loop LOL
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can really just do if x then else do this end.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But you can do if not x then do y end.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: anyone know how to fix this with endymion's wind plugin?  cannot open C:\Program Files (x86)\MUSHclient\C:\Program Files (x86)\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\aardwolf_colors.lua: Invalid argument
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: uh i've never run aardmush out of program files. maybe permission problems
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: give it a valid argument? judges like those better
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: sounds like your problem is you have mushclient installed in program files
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it's n ot designed for that
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Permission issues suck.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: bleh brb
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: it's a long shot but.. is it possible to have diff font size for diff aardlayout setting?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm, don't know.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: you could probably setoption in a script to change the font size that also does an aard layout restore
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: i was looking at the wrong plugin too just looking for a plugin to check which cards i'm missing for my first case
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: looks like you want output_font_height, mayyyybe
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yea
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: good idea anssett. will try
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: for a list of allll the options, /for k, v in pairs (GetOptionList()) do Note (v, " = ", GetOption (v)) end
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: (adjust prefix as needed)
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: what's the command to simulate mud output to start testing stuff?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: echo?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Simulate()
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: or just ctrl shift f12
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: thanks yall
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: is there a way i can make a command fire after a mapper goto room#?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: such as go to a shop, then after arrival, but a heal pot
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: buy *
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: you could use dinv to do it for you
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: for that particular ask, dinv can handle potion management
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: dinv help consume
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: oh thanks!
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: beyond that you could technically write a script/plugin to read gmcp data and determine when you've reached th eproscribed room
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i'm not sure how far down that rabbit hole you can go before it's technically botting tho
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: i was just looking for potion management, so this answers my question thank you!
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: A trip how one plugin can offer SO much extra for game play.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: yeah i am not using it to its maximum potential
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: and extra windows.. which, Is there a good site or reference to how to create mini-windows? or is that possible?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: fiendish has a writeup on his github
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Ok, thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: crowley here?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Maybe.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Depends why I need to be. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: he needs some help with medical charting
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i notice what i think is odd for SnD on the express mobs
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What's that?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: when it is normally running to a mob and i am stopped by aggroo, i can hit nx and continue on, but for express nx says no nexct room (or whatever) like it doesn't remember where you were going. you have to use xcp
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: I would think nx should work
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That will require rewriting how xcp works in the first place.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: well for express it goes directly to the room instead of to the area first and then finding the room
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The only time 'nx' works is when the room list is generated. Now, you can mapper resume and it should work. I'll look into making that change, though.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: so just make esxpress set the room it was heading to
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: If we're bringing up SnD bugs, is there a reason why it freezes when I type xcp 1 after killing a GQ mob to go to the next mob, and I have to unfreeze it by entering a command (I usually use "l")?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: or i guess for express hack make the room list generate as the one room
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: That doesn't happen when I go on campaigns so I didn't think it was intentional
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: that doesn't happemn to me Alison
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What do you mean it freezes? Is it only on gqs?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: it works for me on gq just fine
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Only on GQs
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i get the same behavior, i figured it was antibotting technology (tm) or something
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's because Alison has compact and omits blank lines.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Freezes as in, the next mob is highlighted orange in the miniwindow, but it refuses to actually go there until I enter in a command
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I 99.9% guarantee that's the reason.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Ah, I see
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: This is like the, uh... 12th? Bug I've discovered because I have compact mode on
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, I have to figure out how to accommodate for that.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I'm on a crusade to make sure plugin authors make their plugins compatible with compact
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah mine doesn
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Selitos, do you have compact mode off? Anssett, do you have compact mode on?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Just to check
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yea i run compact too
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: not sure how do i tell?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's not even just compact mode. I have compact on. I think you also have Omit_blank_lines, too.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Yeah. The less blank space on my screen, the more I can fit into it. 
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: does have blank lines
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's the Omit_blank_lines plugin that does it, I think.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i don't >think< i have omit on but i don't reclal
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Looks like we've found the issue, Crowley. Get to work!
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ingenue Alison flicks her whip across (Aleister) Crowley's bare back. 
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: (In all seriousness, do it whenever you want. I appreciate you making plugins for free.)
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i have no such plugin
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah i do not have compact set
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I don't know what Anssett's problem is, but he's the anomaly. *shifty* I blame Anssett.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: and i do see blank lines sometimes so if i have that plugin, it's not working anyway haha
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: ha
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Anssett is definitely an anomaly. Whenever I try to kill the fractal anomaly, I end up attacking him instead. :/
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it's not just you ali :(
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hence why I said that. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I legit spent 2 minutes trying to figure out why I wasn't attacking the anomaly last time...
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it works FINE for me but then everybody else starts looking at me
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i just got near a room and wait for somebody to yell which dir now :p
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Do you have to be in the shop where you get a potion in order for 'dinv consume add..'?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Even if I have that potion in my inventory?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: that is also how DINV rememebrs the location of the shop for you to buy it on dinv command.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ah.. ok, that makes sense. Still getting used to having all these extra tools.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: To clarify, when adding a potion.. the <type> is whatever I title that category for that potion, yes?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: If that makes sense. Sorry.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: The potion I want to add is a 'flying' potion, so can I set my type to 'Fly'?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I got it..
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: can i do a find replace on commands i type?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In an alias, sure.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or as an alias, sure.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i have a nasty habbit of typing don;t whan i really mean don't and i love to be able to replace when i mistype it
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: especcially since ; is my line break
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Eh, you might be better off with a third-party app like authotkey or espanso.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But you could do * don;t * and do Send("%1 don't %2")
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As an alias, anyway.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Should work, at any rate. I do that for my bags (bag_1, bag_2, bag_3, expand out to bag1 bag2 bag3)
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Er, whoops, apparently not in that case.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But it does expand them to their IDs.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: don
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: nope didn't work
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It may be because MUSH interprets the ; before the alias.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, in that case, might need to look into espanso or autohotkey.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yup
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Selitos may just have to start typing out do not